User talk:Startus/Archive 1

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Thanks,
DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:40, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

DarkMatterMan4500, thanks! Mazzaz (talk) 11:01, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Wiki created

Hello, I would like to tell you that I have created your wiki. You can now access it at https://kawipedia.miraheze.org. You should have been automatically granted administrator and bureaucrat rights, if that's not the case then please leave a notice on Stewards' noticeboard so we can fix it immediately. Do not hesitate to ask questions if your question was not answered in our FAQ. Also, if you want an extension, gadget, or anything else, please ask us here. Thank you for choosing Miraheze, and we wish you good luck with your wiki! DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org

Are you interested in contributing to dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

wikipedia:WP:THREAD

Hello, So before answering I should add ":". Thank you! Fffv7787 (talk) 13:20, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Not like this, see Special:Diff/187601. You were doing right but number of colons, you used, was wrong. Note that if a user has started a new discussion, you should start writing your reply with one : and if you are replying to a comment which starts with one :, you should start replying with 2 :: (colons) and similarly if the user uses 3 colons you should reply with 4 colons and so on. ~ Mazzaz (talk) 14:05, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Additionally, you can enable Discussion tools, in your Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing, if you feel difficult to use colons. ~ Mazzaz (talk) 14:07, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

OK, Thank you! Fffv7787 (talk) 14:14, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

untitled

How do I put my own logo on my wiki? Miller2007 (talk) 17:37, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello! To add your logo, please go to Special:ManageWiki/settings on your wiki. If you have any more questions, you may ask them on the Community noticeboard, thanks! Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 17:54, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@Agent Isai: I have a new server on miraheze for my wiki but I want to export over 1k pages from the old one how do I do this? Miller2007 (talk) 19:00, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@Miller2007: I have replied on that thread, hope that helped. If you need further help, reply on the thread in the CN or visit us on Discord or IRC. Thanks! Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 19:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hello. I had created 3 pages with sources from the Greek Wikipedia and I had put the source. I deleted them a few days ago because I was not sure it was allowed. Do you know if allowed to I restore? Thanks! Fffv7787 (talk) 09:25, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Fffv7787, do you copied the whole articles from Greek wikipedia or only the sources? If you have copy and pasted those articles from Greek Wikipedia (el.wikipedia.org), you'll need to give a proper attribution to Greek wikipedia and share your content under the same licence. Wikipedias share content under Creative Commons share-alike 3.0. Carefully read what can you do with that content here and here. ~ Mazzaz (talk) 13:00, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

~ Mazzaz Thanks. Although I think these are allowed according to https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/, can you see them? [1] [2] [3] and one image Fffv7787 (talk) 14:00, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Fffv7787, I can see the pages, but I couldn't understand the language. Create a template like mh:Famepedia:Template:Source Wikipedia and place that on the pages which you copy form Greek Wikipedia. (This is also done on mh:Famepedia).

Files are licensed under multiple licenses, some are even copyrighted and you can't use them and you might get the stike, if you do so. You need to see if the file is copyrighted or not. If the file is realesed under the same license as above (CC BY SA 3.0), then you can use it, given you follow the proper conditions. Also, note that pinging users without the signature will have no effect. You must include a signature if you want to ping anyone. ~ Mazzaz (talk) 14:30, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

~ Mazzaz Thank you! Fffv7787 (talk) 14:47, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

No problem! ~ Mazzaz (talk) 14:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Shaw's Nightmare

Thanks for your help on the Shaw's Nightmare Wiki. Would you be interested in contributing to it? Mickey96 (talk) 16:45, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for asking, Mickey96, I feel like I am more busy editing Wikipedia and other miraheze wikis. And there is a little possibility to contribute to more wikis. In case if I'll have more free time and if the wiki interests me, I'll be there. ~ Mazzaz (talk) 17:23, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hello. I created a template for pages from Wikipedia on my wiki. This template is comes even if I made changes to the page and it is not a copy-paste? Thanks! Fffv7787 (talk) 13:12, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey Fffv7787, good to see you! Will you please explain any further and provide the links where the problem can be seen. I think I couldn't get you properly. --Mazzaz (talk) 15:29, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Good to see you too! I would like to know when I use this template in my wiki. Thanks Fffv7787 (talk) 17:27, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I created a similar on my wiki. Fffv7787 (talk) 17:29, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Fffv7787, the template can be used on the pages which are copied and pasted to your or any other wiki from English Wikipedia. However, I would not recommend to copy from enwp and to create a template like Template:Source Wikipedia on FAMEPedia, instead, I would suggest to create your own content. --Mazzaz (talk) 17:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

If I use Wikipedia as a source but it isn't copy-paste do I need the template? Fffv7787 (talk) 19:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I usually post my own content, I just get information from Greek Wikipedia(elwp). In that case, is it not necessary? Thanks! Fffv7787 (talk) 08:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

untitled

Hello, I did what you have said I am really confused and don't know what to do. I summitted a random namespace and don't see anything enabling Visual Editing or I may not know what it is or maybe both. DarRam (talk) 16:01, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

See User talk:DarkMatterMan4500. --Mazzaz (talk) 16:20, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Quick deletion of User:Startus/minerva.js

The page you wrote, User:Startus/minerva.js, has been selected for quick deletion. If you think this page should be kept, please add {{wait}} below the line {{QD}} and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. You can find more information about the reason here. Ma͡gogre (talk) 09:07, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Account confirmation requested

Hi Magogre,

Thank you for noting your apparent Wikimedia user account, and for later listing your prior Miraheze user accounts. However, those accounts Flarehot and Juslit were previously locked by self request of the user, so unable to provide the necessary confirmation edit, and previously confirmed Hulged as their alternate account, would you mind providing a confirmation edit, from Hulged on any Wikimedia wiki of your choosing noting that your apparent later account, Magogre, is also included? As well, noting your recent permission request for wiki creator, as a recommended best practice, I would recommend noting all prior Miraheze user accounts, particularly if either of Flarehot or Juslit have requested the permission.

Thanks,
Dmehus (talk) 05:44, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dmehus, please see this edit on Simple English Wikipedia. --Magogre (talk) 06:38, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Magogre, Thank you. That's great. Feel free to stash that diff somewhere, should you have need to call upon it again in the future for some reason. I'll review and handle your patroller request tomorrow evening, if that's alright. Dmehus (talk) 06:40, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Dmehus, yes, I'll stash that diff somewhere, possibly on my userpage.

And for my patroller request, I am completely fine if that is reviewed tomorrow! --Magogre (talk) 07:11, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Dmehus (talk) 07:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Patroller granted - 2021-11-26

Hi, Magogre. An administrator on Meta has granted you the patroller user group permission, which gives you the ability to patrol recent changes and new pages of other Miraheze users (both registered and anonymous) who are not either autopatrolled or an administrator. In addition, this group also means that your edits are autopatrolled, so other patrollers or administrators don't have to patrol your edits. You should also be aware that the granting of this user group is at the discretion of Meta administrators, so different administrators will have slightly different criteria for granting. Likewise, just as it is a discretionary appointment, revocation is also at the discretion of Meta administrators and, again, each will have their own criteria for revocation.

In the medium-term, plans are in the works to develop a Meta Patrollers School, likely led by one or two active administrators, that will provide a comprehensive set of guidelines for patrollers and answers to commonly asked questions.

Nevertheless, the following are some of the main guidelines for patrolling. If you follow these guidelines completely, it is unlikely your patroller user group should ever be revoked. In technical terms, even when you find content that requires deletion by an administrator or otherwise requires remediation, undoing, reverting, or rolling back (if you are also a rollbacker, of course), you should always first mark as patrolled any revisions regardless of whether that content is destined to remain extant to the page or even on Meta entirely.

1. When patrolling talk pages, user talk pages, and noticeboards (in Main and Meta namespaces), you should first check to see whether the user properly signed their posts using four tildes (~~~~). If they have not, you should add {{unsigned}} by substitution ({{subst:Unsigned|username|00:01, 31 August 2020 (UTC)}}), where username is the user's username or IP address and the timestamp is the full timestamp from the diff page. As a best practice, you should also link to the diff in your edit summary, so other administrators and patrollers can easily tie your modification to the original edit being modified. To speed up this process, you can copy the diff-permalink user script from line 5 of this page into either your (a) common.js or (b) global.js page (the latter applying globally on all Miraheze wikis);
2. When patrolling the noticeboards, ask yourself whether this topic is on the correct noticeboard. If it is not, you should move it to the correct noticeboard, by either undoing the edit or manually removing the topic (if there have been intervening edits), again linking to the original noticeboard of the topic and the new noticeboard where it was moved in your edit summary. On the new noticeboard, you would simply paste in the topic (including the section header), linking to the diff page as in the first step. An example edit summary might be Moved [[Special:Diff/######|this discussion]] from [[Stewards' noticeboard]] to [[Community noticeboard|here]], where ###### represents the numeric revision ID of the originally posted topic;
3. Also when patrolling the noticeboards and talk pages (including user talk pages), as a best practice, take care to kindly fix any formatting mistakes (such as excess line breaks or incorrect wiki code), per WP:LISTGAP;
4. If something requires deletion, you can add {{delete}} to the top of the page in question, taking care to follow the instructions on that template page;
5. If you come across a user who repeatedly makes the same mistakes, send them a guidance note on their user talk page, informing of the steps need to edit and post constructively on Meta; and, finally,
6. If in doubt whether something requires remediation or not, patrol it, and then ask any administrator via their user talk page or at Meta:Administrators' noticeboard if any further action needs to be taken.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Thank you! --Dmehus (talk) 05:14, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Congrats on getting wiki creator!

Congrats on getting the wiki creator rank! Anpang Talk Stuff 04:42, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Wiki creator helpful tips

Hi Magogre,

First off, I will just start by welcoming you to the wiki creator team. Thank you for volunteering. As you are no doubt aware, Content Policy is our key global policy that guides us in creating wikis for customers. Essentially, every wiki needs to have both a clear purpose, some sort of scope (broad or narrow), and a topical focus. This is the main criterion that helps us to determine whether a wiki will have any potential Content Policy problems.

Second, I wanted to share with you a few tips that I found helpful when I first joined as a wiki creator:

1. "Request comments" tab. Intuitively, one would think to use this tab when requesting more information, but as Amanda Catherine (and others) pointed out to me shortly after I joined as a wiki creator, there is currently a known issue with this in that the requestor isn't notified via e-mail unless their wiki is either (a) approved or (b) declined. Thus, when requesting more information on a wiki request, you really either (a) use the "decline" tab, referencing your follow-up comments in that text box and telling them to back into [[Special:RequestWikiEdit/#####]] in order to add to, but not replace, their existing description with the needed information or (b) use either the "request comments" or "decline" tab in combination with a message on the requestor's user talk page on Meta. The approach you use is entirely up to you. I personally prefer option A, but either one is fine;

   Note: this was prior to RequestWiki changes made since last fall, so this one no longer applies, but I included it, albeit with strikethrough text for posterity

2. Private wikis. Private wikis can generally have a shorter description and a less specific purpose, scope, or topic, but they do still need one. If you have some reservations about approving it as, say, a public wiki, due to that vagueness, you can tell them, in your comments prior to approving it, that you're approving it only as a private wiki and remind them to ensure their wiki complies with all aspects of Content Policy;
3. Eurovision song contest and fictional worldbuilding wikis. These are two types of wikis that have few, if any, problems with them. So, as long as there's a clear sitename, URL, and at least a few words in the description that indicates this as the purpose, it's fine to approve them;
4. Reception wikis (positive and negative). Many of the Reception wikis tend to give us the most the grief, especially in terms of content that is very negative about users. If it's a Reception wiki that focuses on terrible fast-food restaurants, that's usually less problematic than, say, one that focuses on gamer or YouTube celebrities, mainly because you're not dealing with content about real, living people. Please don't hesitate in asking follow up questions, sometimes multiple times, of these wikis, trying to narrow down whether the wikis will write about real people in some way and, if so, how they will do it. And, at the end of the day, if you are still not comfortable approving, you can write "on hold" for review by another wiki creator in "request comments";
5. Chinese language mini-world wiki requests. These ones are tricky, but cause us arguably the most grief, particularly when they publish personal information of real people without their consent. Stewards have recently closed a swath of them following a detailed report on stewards' noticeboard, but some of the tricks I've observed them using are odd descriptions like "anti-dog wiki" or to "expose the truth and scandal". Somewhat less common, they will use a completely different, but vague, description, then change their tune when you follow up with them and use some of those key phrases I mentioned in the previous sentence;
6. Google Translate. Don't hesitate to use Google Translate to review non-English public and private wikis. Notwithstanding the above point, most of these wikis' descriptions translate surprisingly well. As you've probably already noticed, I like to copy and paste the translated to English description into "request comments," so other wiki creators can see it easily. This is optional, but it's a good practice, I think; and,
7. Don't hesitate to reach out on Discord and ask for a second opinion. If you are still unsure about approving a wiki, or just want a second opinion, don't hesitate to reach out to any wiki creator on Discord. This might be the most important guideline.

There's probably some additional tips I could include, based on more contemporary types of recent wiki requests, notably recent 4chan- and Polandball-type wiki requests, which will possibly require sending back to the requestor for additional clarifying information at least once. Feel free to share suggested additions to these tips, and let me know if you find them useful. :)

Cheers,
Dmehus (talk) 04:52, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

I'd also like to mention of the informal policy to decline wikis with an NSFW focus for the 'asking more details' option and ask them to reaffirm that they've reviewed the Content Policy with respect to NSFW content, plus advise them to avoid posting NSFW on the front page and have a content warning on the wiki. --Raidarr (talk) 09:51, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Raidarr, thanks for the additional information. I was already informed by Agent but not in vain to inform me twice :) --Magogre (talk) 12:36, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

That's a good point as well, Raidarr. I would clarify that as more of a generally accepted best practice common among most wiki creators. I will add that to my tips, as well as incorporate your suggestions at your user talk page into a subpage of my userspace. Speaking of which, I aim to reply to your comments there shortly. Dmehus (talk) 10:24, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Dmehus, I'll note these with thanks :) --Magogre (talk) 12:36, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

js help

Do you have any knowledge of javascript? I need help with making javascript stuff for wikis (like OneClickArchiver) Anpang Talk Stuff 06:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Anpang, I am not really good at js. I adopted OneClickArchiver from en-WP. It was not coded by me. --Magogre (talk) 12:21, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I know that, but atleast you know how to make it work properly with meta not like me hahaha Anpang Talk Stuff 12:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Reverting edits identified as likely requiring oversight

Hi Magogre,

I cam across a revision in which you identified an IP address as likely belonging to a user, as your edit summary articulated; however, reverted the user's edit, saying it was not necessary to remove the IP, thus making an additional revision requiring oversight. This was perplexing to me, so any clarification you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

That being said, it's good that you did not revert the user's reversion, please do keep this in mind when patrolling revisions on Meta Wiki.

Thanks,
Dmehus (talk) 10:21, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Dmehus, it was the poor judgement from my part. I agree that the user was logged out while commenting. But at first I thought it was a different user. I wanted to add the signature of real author of the comment, my intention wasn't to publicize their PII (whether they were YF or not). But when they reverted my edit and requested oversight, I dropped it. --Magogre (talk) 12:15, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Acknowledging mistakes is an important component, and as I said, as you dropped it, that was good, too. This was meant to just be helpful guidance. :) Dmehus (talk) 12:17, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Question

Do you only edit on your cell phone, or because you don't have a computer? YellowFrogger (✉ Talk ✐ Edits) 18:12, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't own a computer. --Magogre (talk) 18:37, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

That's why you take long to create a wiki. Do you plan to buy one? YellowFrogger (✉ Talk ✐ Edits) 18:38, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I mean, either way, workload is not too high for wiki creators hence why perhaps you don't see Magorge handling requests as often. I myself use my phone sometimes while on-the-go and I see no hindrance in using it to review requests. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 19:11, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Special:Diff/217471

Meta could import all pages talking about these rules in Wikipedia over here, for all users here to be aware. After all, that's what they do here, "importing" all the rules from Wikipedia over here, and since I don't use Wikipedia (I use very little actually) I have no idea of the rules there (which are the same as the Miraheze Meta), because Miraheze clones, instead of having a little more originality YellowFrogger (✉ Talk ✐ Edits) 03:15, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

I would honestly rather we just stop importing things from Wikipedia on our own with no discussion instead of mass import pages, especially policy-type ones to Meta. We might as well focus on integrating what we've brought in rather than try and mirror a platform that, well, we're not, and we don't have to be. Though I'm not sure what the diff in the title of this section is for. --Raidarr (talk) 11:57, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

What does that diff in question has to with this query? Ugochimobi (talk) 12:17, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

@Raidarr:, are you including the templates and modules? YellowFrogger (✉ Talk ✐ Edits) 12:28, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

YellowFrogger, templates and modules which are generally useful and can be used on the meta are acceptable to be imported or copy-pasted, IMO. However, we don't need every template or every page to be copied/imported here. --Magogre of Kashmir (talk) 12:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

I believe templates and modules, save those with a clear connection to existing convention for Meta or directly associate with a known use, should be in some form brought up first to eliminate the chance of things coming in which go unused because nobody knows or is actually interested in them. Further I believe they should be properly attached to Meta categories and documented consistently with attribution to their source prominent. But this is not a 'meta administrator' statement and I probably wouldn't force the issue if I was one; merely an input as a fellow volunteer. --Raidarr (talk) 12:52, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Quick deletion of Template:Table/doc

The page you wrote, Template:Table/doc, has been selected for quick deletion. If you think this page should be kept, please add {{wait}} below the line {{QD}} and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. You can find more information about the reason here. --Magogre (talk) 16:19, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Look

Patrollers Patrollers on Meta help coordinate against spam and review all edits to make sure they're compliant with local policies

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That's better, do you think? YellowFrogger (✉ Talk ✐ Edits) 16:30, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I also think that's better than template and I am planning to improve the template in the same way instead of using the code on every single page. --Magogre (talk) 16:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

What's a tvar?

I can't find what a tvar means and you seem to know what it means. Can you tell me what it is?  AP📨  07:38, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Anpang, see this on MediaWiki to learn about the translation variables. --Magogre (talk) 07:48, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Question

And your wikibreak? YellowFrogger (✉ Talk ✐ Edits) 04:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

It was like a break for an hour. Will be busy again. Magogre (talk) 04:59, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Name?

Why is your name "Magogre"? What's the meaning? It sounds like a shortened wikipedia:User:Magog the Ogre to me :P  Anpang📨  12:12, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Anpang, I prefer to keep my real name private. Magogre is just the mix of "Mag" (my nickname) and "Ogre". I later recognised when I became more active on Wikimedia Commons that there exists a Magog the Ogre on Wikimedia. But my username is not shortened from Magog the Ogre. If fact, I am considering to change my username on Wikimedia to Magogre in future when all of my issues are settled there :) --Magogre (talk) 13:39, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

hi

hey Octahedron foundation (talk) 19:06, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Computer

Hey. Do you plan to buy a computer in the future? Especially for less limited edition? --YellowFrogger (talk) (✔) 05:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi YF. Yes, I do plan to buy a new one in future (likely in June/July this year). Magogre (talk) 07:46, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

welcomed you on us police incidents wiki.

again welcome hope you might contribute??? Thnx SperosDurrell (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

RfC about global user rights

Hello. I see you were responsible for this RfC about local user rights in Meta. Therefore, in accordance with a discussion on this same page, I have been instructed to contact you about this as I want to enforce a proposal on interwiki administratores global and its inactivity, and, this RfC you created is local and only administrators can resolve (not stewards). What do you think about us creating an equal RfC, but only with global rights and that stewards can resolve. Do you have any idea? --YellowFrogger (talk) (✔) 00:59, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Anything to answer, Magogre? --YellowFrogger (talk) (✔) 13:07, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Am pavan acharya famous personality Kannada sandalwood film actor and Telivesion actor regarding my article on famepedia

Hello am pavan acharya Kannada sandalwood popular film actor and Telivesion actor I need an article on this famepedia previously my article was deleted now I need an new article on famepedia so kindly don't remove I need an ur permission for creating an article on Famepedia Let me know Thank you Regards Pavan acharya film actor and Telivesion actor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4071:4E05:598F:AF31:B11B:D9FC:EF65 (talk • contribs)

Hello, I believe that you should talk to that LOCALLY on FAMEPedia. -- Cheers, Bukkit^{(Public) ( Talk • Contribs )} 17:15, 10 March 2022 (UTC)