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New wiki[edit source]

Yes, it was my fault for lack of time. But now I'm focusing mainly on just these wikis: nanatsunotaizai, tokyoghoul, thehushhushsaga; And the new one that would be shingekinokyojin

Wiki Request[edit source]

Hey there,

I mistakenly requested a new wiki at a custom domain (request 3034).

Could I request that the domain be, rather, a subdomain styled as: overon.miraheze.org?

Thanks for your time.

All the best, -Veldias

Un lock on my wiki[edit source]

Can you unlock me on my wiki nasa.miraheze.org or make the user chicken nugget the sysop and bureaucrat

FAQ[edit source]

I mentioned on the Administrators' noticeboard that your post-edit of FAQ needs additional editing. Spıke (talk)16:14 21-Oct-2017

Oh, sorry. I didn't see the post. I will read it. Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:16, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

No, you still have a paragraph starting "When using this extension" but you deleted the paragraph that says which extension! More to the point, if dismissable site notices are only available globally, then the reader of FAQ will never need to deal with MediaWiki:Sitenotice_id. If the reader does, then I am confused, and FAQ doesn't rectify the confusion. Spıke (talk)16:31 21-Oct-2017

I've updated it to make more sense. DismissableSiteNotice is enabled globally, but that does not mean that it only applies to global site notices. -- Void Whispers 16:51, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

I see the distinction. There are a few typos left, such as a red-link to Content policy and "poliies" on the next line.

And here is a FAQ for you. Who is following me around on TheMirror and uploading a helpful photo just before I finish using Special:Upload? It seems that my File: namespace is a view to Wikimedia Commons, and if I should try to load a filename that they have, it recommends that I use theirs. Spıke (talk)00:27 23-Oct-2017

@Spike the Dog: This is because of InstantCommons which allows any non-WMF wikis to be able to use Commons files. If you don't need/want it it can be disabled. Reception123 (talk) (C) 05:14, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

No, it's fine. It's helpful, just not explained anywhere. Spıke (talk)13:04 23-Oct-2017

Since more people have asked about this, it's a great question to be added to the FAQ. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:06, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks; thought I was losing my mind, etc.; I propose this text to ask the question the way the reader would ask it, and provide specifics for the Phab request:

Why does it say the file I'm trying to upload is already there?[edit source]

All Miraheze wikis begin with the InstantCommons extension installed, which gives wikis outside the Wikimedia Foundation access to media in Wikimedia Commons. When you use Special:Upload to add a photo to your wiki, the response suggests that the photo is already uploaded! This simply means there is a photo in Wikimedia Commons by the same name. You can use that photo immediately. Or, if you prefer your own photo, you can complete the upload. That name, on your wiki, will now refer to your photo.

If you don't want your wiki to work this way, then request that InstantCommons be disabled on your wiki.

Thanks for the more detailed explanation. The only thing I changed is the word extension, since it was transfered from an extension to an integration in the MediaWiki software. --Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:12, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Createawiki[edit source]

  • I have in your mediawiki usertalk type meassage, thiscan you go to aswered?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 02:23, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Answered. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:52, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
  • I want to this form, can you help me?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 10:42, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
  • You can go to my cpanel install this form?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
  • 已經處理好囉!--Msnhinet8 (talk) 12:40, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'm not sure which "form" you are talking about. Reception123 (talk) (C) 14:36, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

[edit source]

Hi Reception123, thanks for renaming part-up.miraheze.org to r2.miraheze.org. What I also would like to change is the logo and the sitename of the wiki. Is this something I can do myself? Timboliu999 (talk) 13:09, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

@Timboliu999: For the logo, you need to request it on Phabricator. As for the sitename, you can go to Special:ManageWiki on your wiki. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:12, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

mediawiki 的工具[edit source]

https://github.com/Miraheze/CreateWiki

上面這個工具

我到頁面 Special:CreateWiki

系統不允許您執行這項操作。

請問如何解決?--123.192.222.53 14:14, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

I have used machine translation to translate this, so I might not have understood correctly. To request a wiki please go to Special:RequestWiki. Reception123 (talk) (C) 14:31, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Miraheze on Wikipedia[edit source]

I decided to add Miraheze to W:Comparison of wiki hosting services. I've added full citations on most information and everything is perfectly alright according to Wikipedia policy so no "notability" shit should be mentioned by some bureaucratic editors. Anyway, I just want to get the green light if this is ok? I just felt that Miraheze by far gives the best experience of running a Wikipedia style wiki and I believed Miraheze would be more discoverable if it was linked more on Wikipedia. Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs 00:12, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is how I found out about Miraheze. It is a minor "notability" problem that most of your citations about Miraheze are citations from Miraheze, but the entries on the other services have the same problem. You should put your new entry in alphabetical order among the others. Spıke (talk)00:25 30-Oct-2017
I seen that I was only putting in Miraheze citations but I put an Alexa citation in as the site has a better ranking then some of the other sites listed. So if they want to remove Miraheze they will have to remove the rest which will not happen.

Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs 01:08, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Someone reverted the edits, but I just left a message on their talk page. MacFan4000 (talk) 02:00, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
A bunch of us have been on the page and seem to be viewed as having a conflict-of-interests. It will take more than asserting that Miraheze is useful or friendly or all of the above. You will have to convince Wikipedians that it is notable, measured by presence in unaffiliated press articles that can be cited. They will not be interested in testimonials, no matter how many. Spıke (talk)02:30 30-Oct-2017
It's a good idea to want to add Miraheze to that page, only myself (and other users) have tried before, and there has already been a discussion about adding it (I did mention the Alexa ranking and other things, but that did not change their view). Wikipedia will only let the page be added if Miraheze gets its own Wikipedia page. We have tried that too, only it was declined since it was not "notable" enough, and didn't have enough sources (see here). We are now waiting for someone to write about us, so we can get a reliable source. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:12, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
Once again, that is complete utter bullshit (pardon my language). Miraheze only lacks a few citations but has a Alexa ranking than most sites. I will fight this Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs 10:29, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
@CnocBride: I hope we will convince them, but as I said there was already a discussion about this on Wikipedia. I provided many sources, and other wikis, but they apparently only want articles or "notable" sources. I'm not sure what we can do to convince them otherwise. I think that the table they have is unfair. My opinion is if they don't want to include some wiki farms, then they should just get rid of the page and redirect it to the MediaWiki.org one, but in it's current state it is unfair to non-profit farms or smaller farms (even though we do have higher Alexa rankings than others) which don't necessarily have the means to have many articles written about them. I'm not sure where it disappeared but you can see the discussion dif here, as well as this one. Reception123 (talk) (C) 10:39, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
Checked the article, its been reverted. I think I might propose the suggestion of redirecting the page to MediaWiki as it is unfair like you said. Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs 10:58, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
@CnocBride: Your most recent edit has not been reverted it seems. I propose that you explain the edit on the discussion page so that they don't revert it again. As I said, they should either have a wider inclusion criteria, or if not redirect the page. I doubt that they will let Miraheze on the list, so I think it will come to redirecting the page. Reception123 (talk) (C) 11:08, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
What Wikipedia pros are telling you there is what we are telling you here. The first draft of this article read like, "We have a club, it is a great club, here is how our club works." The latest draft reads the same way. It is totally written to induce people to use the site (a goal that I am totally supportive of) and not at all written to make the case that the site has attracted attention (apart from robots at Alexa). Site hits as measured by Alexa (and as easily faked by 'bots) are not their criterion. Wikipedia's policies are designed to frustrate its use for self-promotion (which I am sure they have concluded) and to advance its use as a measure of what is found noteworthy by the independent media. That is, someone in the press (that we are not paying) has to take notice of us as a wiki host. "Or it didn't happen." Spıke (talk)01:00 31-Oct-2017
PS @CnocBride: Has been reverted now, edit summary, "Create the page first." Persistence in violating Wikipedia policies is not viewed as a plus. Creating the page first won't work. What is missing is third-party coverage, such as notice in the press. Without that, nothing else matters. Again, the required emphasis for any article is not "Here is our swell wiki farm" but "Here is a phenomenon that the press noticed." Spıke (talk)01:06 31-Oct-2017
@Spike the Dog: Yes, they are looking for third-party articles.. Only I'm not sure where we could start, and how we could get that coverage. I have tried asking a few users who knew some local media, but there hasn't been any response. And for the article itself, once we have that source, could you maybe work on making it have less self-promotion and it being more Wikipedia like? Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:18, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Forgive the slow response! electricity has been out here for 42 hours after a garden-variety windstorm and I am in my car with an Android tablet. Regarding gaining notoriety, you have my opinion in a prior conversation on a Noticeboard that one usually has to pay for it, though renting a Home Depot truck and careening down a bike path also seems to work. Someone needs to provide content of greater interest to the impartial observer than it is to the already-Miraheze user. Spıke (talk)02:36 1-Nov-2017
Am back on the grid now. I have indeed copy-edited W:Draft:Miraheze to read a little more smoothly and to gather together the parts that are very technical. I note in the edit summary that I don't claim my edit satisfies the Wikipedia Notability guidelines. The article's only two attempts to establish Miraheze's notability (All The Tropes and Professor Vandegrift) in fact do not show it is notable to anyone but its own users. That's the problem. Spıke (talk)22:32 1-Nov-2017
We're really looking for the "reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject." Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:26, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Now, that is not the problem but a symptom. The problem is that Miraheze, while an excellent service provided by friendly people, has not yet done anything notable to the uninvolved, not even anything innovative except renounced fee-for-service, an experiment that might ultimately fail. If Miraheze ("over 2,000 wikis") had become such a factor that Wikia ("several hundred thousand wikis") stopped jerking around its contributors in the service of advertisers and corporate branding campaigns — and if some pundit or academic wrote a paper showing cause-and-effect — then that would be news. If the next jihadist used a Miraheze wiki to announce his murderous intentions before acting, then that would be news too. A private club, running smoothly in a corner of cyberspace, is not yet news. Spıke (talk)12:14 2-Nov-2017

CVT request[edit source]

As you are one of the members of the CVT, I invite you to comment on my request to join the CVT over at the Stewards' noticeboard. Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs 20:47, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Charinsert/youtube/timezone[edit source]

  • Hi, you install charinsert and youtube and change timezone by Asia/Taipei?

Thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 01:39, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:06, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

monaco[edit source]

  • Hi you can help me install monaco skin in my wikifamily.tk?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 02:35, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 02:35, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
  • You have e-mail?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 02:36, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
You can use Special:EmailUser or utilizator.receptie123 at gmail.com. You can see this. --Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:58, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
  • I e-mail give you.you can go look.thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 07:27, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

漢語百科[edit source]

  • my hantpedia Related changes have use old Related changes?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:55, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
  • will Related changes change to old Related changes by default.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:58, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
What do you mean? It should be updated automatically, yes. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:21, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

domain[edit source]

  • my site漢語百科 can you change my domain zh-tw.hantpedia.miraheze.org  ?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 06:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 06:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Unfortunately, we can't add another . to your domain. Reception123 (talk) (C) 17:21, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Executive titles[edit source]

My Phabricator task has become a springboard for resolving confusion on the differences between Admins, Stewards, and system administrators. I wish you would write a clarification, such as a bulleted list describing each title, at the end of FAQ#Who are these people?. Spıke (talk)15:27 7-Nov-2017

I agree it can be confusing for sometimes. Yes check.svg Done Reception123 (talk) (C) 17:14, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! (Did the Phabricator task lead to a decision, or just a tutorial?) Please consider my copy-edit of your list, correcting any misconceptions I still have. (PS--Perhaps the new stuff after the first paragraph is too detailed for the introductory section, and belongs at the start of Wiki management requests.

Who are these people?[edit source]

Miraheze users are known only by their user names. A person uses the same user name on all of Miraheze's wikis. During registration, you pick your own user name. A Miraheze user may elect to disclose his own identity, but disclosing someone else's identity without their permission is a serious violation.

Some Miraheze users have acquired management titles. You should understand the difference in order to direct any request to the right group:

  • Stewards are responsible for matters concerning the Miraheze wiki farm, including events and proposed actions that affect all wikis; for instance, disruptive behavior on your wiki that you might not resolve sufficiently by your own administrative action there. You can contact them at the Stewards' noticeboard.
  • System administrators are responsible for technical issues and the correct functioning of Miraheze and its wikis. You can contact them via Phabricator (see below).
  • Meta administrators manage this "Meta" wiki, as you manage your own wiki. Meta administrators do not administer your wiki; you do.
  • The Miraheze community itself — all users, to the extent that they care to participate — assemble at the Community noticeboard, where you can discuss the future of Miraheze and observations on which you would like others' opinions.
I have implemented some of your changes. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:33, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

rfobasic[edit source]

FYI, I've been having fun doing technical editing on this new wiki. It has attracted one review, but has attracted no registrations nor edits. The software project is stalled and we were left with a PostScript manual and an informal list of bugs. This wiki could be a way to make the manual live, to publish bugs in an organized way, and to publish specs for a follow-on software version, as there are at least two guys who could code it up. Unfortunately, nearly all that community is not native English speakers. They won't complete the writing, and if I do, I should (but won't) be paid enough to live on for one year. (No action required on your part.) Spıke (talk)14:07 8-Nov-2017

I'm not very sure what you mean by "It has attracted one review". Also, we use Phabricator for bugs, so I think that copying these bugs to Meta would have no sense considering they are already on Phabricator. Please explain what you mean by this more clearly. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:30, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

No, no, no, the topic of this wiki is not Miraheze or its software but the "RFO-BASIC!" interpreter for Android. The review was by one of their experts on their website. My comment doesn't mean there is a task for you guys but just to inform you of what I'm doing on that wiki. Spıke (talk)18:50 8-Nov-2017

Oh, sorry for the confusion then. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:52, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

createwiki[edit source]

  • Hi,my site try install create a wiki, but it question.
  • can you help me?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 12:40, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • This my question:File:Create.png ‎ --Msnhinet8 (talk) 12:42, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
@Msnhinet8: The extension is Miraheze specific, so many things might not work. For this error, you need to add 'wiki' at the end. Reception123 (talk) (C) 12:48, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • 但是我添加wiki時仍然無法出現維基耶,請問我該怎麼辦呢?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 12:53, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • But I still can not find Vicky when I add a wiki. How do I do this?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 12:55, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Not sure what "Vicky" means, or what you are trying to do. Again, CreateWiki is Miraheze specific and the code would have to be adapted for another wiki. Reception123 (talk) (C) 12:56, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • so,I not use createwiki?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 12:58, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • 還是,you can go to my cpanel?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 12:59, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • I only give taiwan people create a wiki.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 13:00, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
You can, but it should probably be changed. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:01, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • but how can i do change?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 13:03, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure, you would have to create a CW_WIKIS table, but also have the same setup as Miraheze, so it is a complicated task. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:11, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • you can give me my e-mail miraheze CW_WIKIS table?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 13:14, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • my e-mail is:msnhinet8jp@hotmail.com.tw thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 13:15, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
You can see the rows here Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:39, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • but it view this:mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/2002): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
  • i don't know it mean, can you help me?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 13:55, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • You can add my twitter張育碩,Thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • I very need help.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:06, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you commands you are executing. Reception123 (talk) (C) 14:38, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
  • If you add my twitter, I will give you my cpanel account and pass.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:47, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

SSL Certificate[edit source]

I have searched high and low and I cannot find anywhere the type of server that is used for the wiki's. Just need to download my SSL Certificate to email to you, but don't know which is what. Apache vs Microsoft vs Other. PKCS#7 vs X509. Help?

Our web server software is NGINX. MacFan4000 (talk) 23:07, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Please note that if you are generating a new SSL you also need the CSR which was given to you the first time you requested a custom domain. If you don't have it anymore, feel free to ask me. Reception123 (talk) (C) 05:52, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
I used the original CSR for my domain, and had to select Apache for an HTTP certificate. The options for RapidSSL did not include NGINX, but as it is an HTTP server, I assumed this would work.
Yes, there shouldn't be any issue with the certificate. Please send it via email (to operations at miraheze.org). Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:27, 17 November 2017 (UTC)