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Templates[edit source]

Hey Doug, I have seen various wikis using Miraheze having helpful templates (Announcements, Stubs, etc.) and was wondering if you could add them to my wiki. Thanks. PepperoniJustin 19:49, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Template documentation[edit source]

Hi Doug, I have implemented a template documentation in the publictestwiki for demonstration purposes. To these two templates I have added the documention Template:RfP/boilerplate Template:Draft-section so you can see how it looks like. If you think this is useful I (or anyone else) can copy the template and the associated module to other Miraheze wikis. I have translated the text that is displayed in the template pages but not all the comments in the module, a native speaker may improve the translation. Before I spend a lot of time for translating the German comments to English I will make sure that this feature is wanted on Miraheze, if not I will save my time ;-) Lily (Manuela) (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 17:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

interwiki/interlanguage prefixes[edit source]

@Dmehus: could you please set up interwiki and interlanguage prefixes on each of PetraWiki's wiki interwiki tables:

Also, who do I need to talk to in order to:

  • change the "Upload file" link of all PetraWiki's wikis to point to files.petrawiki.org upload-site (as described here)?
  • use files.petrawiki.org files in the other PetraWiki's wikis (as described here)? --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 22:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
@Luka Ibrišimović: Sure, do you want PetraWiki English (en.petrawiki.org) to be the master interwiki prefix, with en and hr added on (a) the other wiki or (b) all wikis? Also, will you require cross-wiki scary transclusion for any wiki? Dmehus (talk) 22:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
@Dmehus: I don't require transclusion for any of the wikis. Sorry, I didn't quite understand your first question, could you explain it to me little more? Thank you. --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 22:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
@Dmehus: I would like each PetraWiki wiki to have interwiki link to other PetraWiki wikis. I would like petrawiki to be master interwiki prefix for English PetraWiki as well as en, and hr for Croatian PetraWiki, language wikis to have link to files and translate wiki, files and translate wikis to have links to language wikis, and files and translate to have link to each other. All wikis should have petrawiki (and en) for English PetraWiki. I hope that answers your question (if I understood you and interwiki links correctly). :) --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 21:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Luka Ibrišimović Apologies for the delay in both replying to this message and handling it, but did you have a chance to take a look on all your wikis and see if the interwiki prefixes I added were all set up correctly? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:41, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
@Dmehus: No need to apologize. I checked it out, it's perfect. Thank you very much! --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 12:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Luka Ibrišimović Oh, that's great. I guess I was mainly apologizing for not adding the requested shared repository upload navigation URLs mentioned briefly above and in #T6789 on Phabricator, as you're right I did complete the interwiki link requests fairly quickly. Regarding the latter, though, I noticed you didn't include petrawikitranslatewiki in your list of wikis that should have a common shared database file upload navigation URL specified. As I think you did mention that above, please let me know if you just missed including that on the Phabricator ticket, and I can process that request as well. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 12:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
@Dmehus: I didn't forget about it, I just thought I wouldn't be needing it for PetraWiki Translate. But now that you asked me, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to change $wgUploadNavigationUrl and $wgUploadMissingFileUrl for PetraWiki Translate as well. So if it's not too much trouble... Thank you! --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 13:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit source]

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Thank you for all the help and work you put in solving my requests. :) Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 13:30, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit Collision[edit source]

Please accept my apologies for the edit collision we had at Special:RequestWikiQueue/16446! --Integer talk 02:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Integer Face-smile.svg Thank you; however, there's actually no need to apologize. It's quite funny that (a) we both used the same canned/prepared decline reason and (b) wiki creator conflicted at the same minute. If anything, I look at it is validation that our decline was correct. ;) Dmehus (talk) 02:33, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes, a very interesting way to think about it, and Face-smile.svg Thank you too! Integer talk 22:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Just a Friendly Note[edit source]

You forgot to remove the flodder user group from yourself. As a result, your edits and logged actions are being marked as bot actions. :P R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 13:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

R4356th Thanks for the note. Well, not my edits, only log actions. In any case, this doesn't prevent visibility in Special:Log. I didn't forget to remove the flood, though, as I wasn't quite finished yet with deleting the translation subpages of the training modules we talked about (as it's a fair bit of work). I hope to finish that this morning. Dmehus (talk) 13:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Oh, okay. 🤔 Why are you removing those pages though? R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 13:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
R4356th Remember? I discussed it with you, Sabelöga, and Reception123, separately or individually, on Discord, and consensus was that the pages were only useful to system administrators, all of whom use English as their primary language, so this created an unnecessary amount of translation work for translators that would be better spent translating existing pages and keeping existing translation subpages up to date. Dmehus (talk) 13:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Um... that was related to the pages in the Tech namespace? Besides, there was consensus in the community in a pretty recent RfC that the Training Modules should be read by CVT, CoCC etc. as well. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 14:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
R4356th Oh, I thought you and I had discussed whether the training modules needed to be translated, but perhaps it was just Sabelöga and Reception123. Though I'm not familiar with the RfC to which you refer, that doesn't change whether the training modules need to be translated. Dmehus (talk) 14:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Discussion continued on Discord. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 15:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Following the discussion on the Administrators noticeboard[edit source]

Could you edit the translation tags on the main page to be on the same row as the bulleted lists as that aligns them properly? That way we can avoid outdated and missing translations from looking like this. --Sabelöga (talk) 14:07, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Any interest in this? Sabelöga (talk) 19:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Sabelöga Well, the result from the discussion at Meta:Administrators' noticeboard to which you refer is that this is an upstream bug related to the Translate and best resolved through filing a ticket on Wikimedia Phabricator, unless you mean there's some specific improvement on that specific page. If the latter is the case, can you please state exactly and clearly what you want you want to be changed in the format of "change x to y" so it's clear on exactly what needs to be changed? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 19:43, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── What I mean is that I want you to move all the bullet point to the same same row, and not on seperate as it is now. Just as I did on Meta:Wiki creators guide. This fixes the problem, or at least it did on that page, so I assume it will here too. I have no idea what upstream bug would create this.

Basically move:

#
Text

to:

# Text

on the Main Page.

Or for even more simplicity, just copy this into the Main Page, that should do it. --Sabelöga (talk) 16:45, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I appreciate the clarification, but I'm not satisfied with this proposed fix, particularly with using <pre></pre>, which seems to a bit of a hacky fix, to be quite honest. I'm open to considering other potential fixes or workarounds, but this isn't it, I don't think. It's also not particularly onerous for translators to remove the FuzzyBot-added divs, as they've been doing it for more than five years without any issues. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 16:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Ignore the "pre" tags. They're just there to show how it would look like in code. The issue here is that the code in translations (not on the original) actually differentiates between text on the same row as a bullet point and text that's just on the next row. The original page with all the "translate" tags don't differentiate between on the bullet point and on the next row, but when fuzzy bot starts adding this "div" tag <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> the code (on the translated pages) starts differentiating between text when it's on the bullet point and when it's on the next row. That's why things get broken up as they do and why it is important for translation administrators to keep text on the bullet point and not on the next row.
I know this will work since I did the exact same thing on Meta:Wiki creators guide and I don't see any reason why the same thing won't have an effect here. If there's any reason it won't work here I'd like to know why. Sabelöga (talk) 17:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Ah, okay, I'm okay with this then, since you said to ignore the pre tags. I tried to implement the fix, but got Translate extension syntax errors beginning at "Free of charge," and I'm not sure how to resolve that. I tried to copy and paste Main Page into your userspace for you to fix, but got the same thing. So if you'll markup the wikitext for me and post in a pastebin, I'll implement the fix, attributing you via an edit summary. Dmehus (talk) 17:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
User:Sabelöga/Test this doesn't give any errors, this should work. Sabelöga (talk) 17:39, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Any success? Or did this not work? Sabelöga (talk) 15:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
I can't get it to work. I'll try and take another look in another week or so. Dmehus (talk) 16:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Okay Sabelöga (talk) 12:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi[edit source]

Hi, it is me BurningPrincess1/TheBurningPrincess. I requested my acct be unlocked on IRC TheBurningPrincess (talk) 18:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

 Welcome back, and thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Special:RequestWikiQueue/16566[edit source]

Why were you so interested in approving the above mentioned wiki request despite me mentioning that a similar wiki already exists? The requester could had easily adopted it. Please reply here and not privately on Discord. Thank you. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 14:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

R4356th As I said in the request, historytimewiki was apparently a good-faith wiki with no actual content. Lots of users have ideas to create wikis, but never follow through. As the requests for adoption process is a time-consuming process and since this wiki has no actual content, it seems rather bureaucratic to ask Loisya to go through a full adoption request just to adopt a wiki that has no more content than a brand new wiki. Nevertheless, I get your thinking, but in this case, common sense prevails here. Dmehus (talk) 14:43, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Agreed but I still think going through the RfA process would have been better and could had prevented a wiki from being deleted and replaced with a new one. It would had also allowed Stewards to assess Loisya. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 15:16, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "allow[ing] Stewards to assess Loisya." We don't really assess the user in an adoption request; we assess their contributions. As to the RfA process, while it is nice if we can prevent wikis from being deleted, that's really more about preserving wikis that have actual content, to ensure the content is kept updated, expanded on, maintained, and the wiki generally kept free of spam and vandalism. To be clear though, I do like that you are looking at whether we have similar wikis in your assessment of wiki requests, and I try and do that as well—including with English Wikipedia fork wikis, to see if users may want to request permissions on and contribute to one one of many English Wikipedia fork wikis we have. As well, it's also helpful to check the RequestWikiQueue to see whether the user previously requested the same, or similar, wiki, that has since been either closed or undeleted. I've found a few wikis that way in which I was able to assist the user with reopening their wiki or with undeleting the wiki for them. Hope that clarifies it a bit, and thank you for your question. Dmehus (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
"We don't really assess the user in an adoption request; we assess their contributions." - which is exactly what I said. "As to the RfA process, while it is nice if we can prevent wikis from being deleted, that's really more about preserving wikis that have actual content, to ensure the content is kept updated, expanded on, maintained, and the wiki generally kept free of spam and vandalism." I did adopt the Women in Tech Wiki which had 0 edits when I requested the wiki. "To be clear though, I do like that you are looking at whether we have similar wikis in your assessment of wiki requests, and I try and do that as well—including with English Wikipedia fork wikis, to see if users may want to request permissions on and contribute to one one of many English Wikipedia fork wikis we have." Check this out. ;) R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 19:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Well, to be fair, you did say "[i]t would also allowed Stewards to asses Loisya," but perhaps you meant to include contributions following Loisya? To your other point, yeah, that API result is quite neat and potentially quite useful. Dmehus (talk) 19:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
"you did say "[i]t would also allowed Stewards to asses Loisya," but perhaps you meant to include contributions following Loisya?" Yes, exactly. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 05:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi there.[edit source]

Is there any way to get templates onto the site that I requested earlier? --Loisya (talk) 16:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Loisya Hi, welcome to Miraheze and to Meta Wiki, the central coordination wiki. To your question, there is Miraheze Template Wiki, which is probably the best source of (mostly) de-Wikipedia-ifyed templates, which you can either use Special:Export (on that wiki) and Special:Import (on your wiki) or transwiki import, selecting "templatewiki" from the drop-down box. In your edit summary, be sure to link to Imported from [[templatewiki:Template:TemplateName]], replacing Template with the namespace from which you're importing. You may wish to import only the current revision, to prevent 503 errors. Alternatively, if you want to import all revisions, I'd recommend importing the templates or modules one by one, referring to the ?action=info ("page information") for any template/module dependencies. If using the Special:Export and Special:Import method, you'll need to use an interwiki prefix from your wiki's interwiki table (whether local or global), to ensure contributions are properly associated to the respective external users. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 16:14, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

A question:[edit source]

What can I do to also help this wiki out, as I have been the most active contributor across the wikis? Feel free to drop me at least a few tips when you get the chance, as I am getting tired right now, and won't be to answer you right away as my timezone here is 9:46PM at this time. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Consultation[edit source]

Thank you for sending me an email. However, I haven't received the email. I tried from meta's personal settings to send a password reset email for the test, but I did not receive the email. I've been in the junk mail folder several times before, so I searched for it, but this time it doesn't seem to be found. I'm sorry I didn't receive the email I received. --松•Matsu (talk) 03:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Since it is also used for resetting the password, I changed the email address registered in miraheze to a receivable address. I changed my email address, but it seems that I can now receive it--松•Matsu (talk) 09:39, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Hrm, strange. It's good that you received the automatically generated password reset e-mail, but that still doesn't explain why you couldn't receive it at your other, current registered and valid e-mail address. Also, the fact that both you and and I cannot apparently receive e-mail messages sent through the Special:EmailUser suggests something is broken. I raised the issue with Site Reliability Engineers on IRC in #miraheze connect, as I strongly suspect something hasn't been configured correctly in the server migration. Dmehus (talk) 13:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
I also changed the end of @, so I thought it might be a junk mail filter, but I check it with a browser, no mail remains in the junk folder, the filter may not be the cause. 松•Matsu (talk) 14:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

$wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages[edit source]

add $wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages for skins modified in c.s.s. appear on the preference pages, this was the problem.

however, you can choose to put it exclusively on the wiki: https://onibus.miraheze.org/ if you don't want to deploy it at all --YellowFrogger (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

YellowFrogger I don't believe this is in ManageWiki, mainly for security reasons. So, this would need a GitHub pull request on the LocalSettings.php to enable this on your wiki. While it's possible to do, I do know that Universal Omega was able to customize his Cosmos skin for special pages, so that's perhaps the better venue—that is, for you to request specific CSS be implemented within the desired skin(s) your wiki is using? Otherwise, if not, can you say what your reason(s) are for wanting to add custom CSS to restricted special pages? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
YellowFrogger: this is not possible, even through LocalSettings.php for security reasons.
@Universal Omega: MediaWiki says you have to also put $wgMFSiteStylesRenderBlocking if mobilefrontend is activated. I think it is possible, because wikis like: https://runescape.wiki/ and https://www.grandtheftwiki.com modify by css and appear on these restricted pages.
I think I saw no problem with my CSS, and I think you can put settings exclusively on a wiki, to avoid problems. But this was a request. --YellowFrogger (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
@Dmehus: I'm asking, because I find it strange, with a modified theme, and it gives the user an impression that the wiki is slow. And CollapsibeVector is also wrong on the common vector, and I fixed it.
I didn't find any security issues in the CSS.
MediaWiki says: "By default, the site's CSS customizations (for example, MediaWiki: Common.css) have no effect on the login and preferences pages. This preserves the security of the login process and allows users to remove any unwanted customizations without being interfered with. If you are not concerned about security risks, you can use the $ wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPagesconfiguration setting to allow custom CSS to work on these pages ". --YellowFrogger (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
YellowFrogger Are those wikis above hosted by Miraheze? If so, then it may be possible for us customize $wgMFSiteStylesRenderBlocking for you. I'm normally a little more liberal for security-related exceptions than some others, but I can see strong likelihood for serious security exploits by allowing CSS and JS on special pages. While I can see adding Internet Archive to the CSP whitelist, for example, I do agree with Universal Omega that we should not be allowing site CSS on restricted pages. That's good you were able to fix CollapsibleVector, though! :) Dmehus (talk) 18:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
They are not, they are independent. But note that they use skins modified in CSS, which still appear on restricted pages.
The CSS I want to appear is: https://onibus.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css. This, like Common.css, did not present any major security risk, without the fatal error "X", no HTTP link image. In addition, only bureaucrats, and interface administrators can modify CSS / JS pages, and only I will be under these privileges. If you place / deploy now, I will like YellowFrogger (talk) 19:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
@Dmehus: Can you put it through LocalSettings.php? The skin I modified is Vector, so the customizable CSS is at: [onibus.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css]. I hadn't seen your message about it, so responding now. YellowFrogger (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
YellowFrogger While I don't doubt that your CSS is fine, the reality is that we have no control over who is appointed as a local interface administrator or bureaucrat on local wikis, and we don't have the global manpower to routinely monitor the CSS and JS of every wiki. So while somewhat of a blunt instrument, instances where the likelihood of serious XSS exploits and security vulnerabilities are high, we have to restrict or disallow certain MediaWiki configurations. Thus, you will need to reach out to a system administrator, such as Universal Omega, to obtain approval before the PR can be done. I would suggest you reach out to someone like Reception123, as the Engineering Manager (MediaWiki), or Southparkfan, as the Director of the Site Reliability Engineering team. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:26, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Dmehus OK thank you. But how will I talk to them? they don't seem to be as active as you are, and I will try on the discussion page YellowFrogger (talk) 00:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
YellowFrogger While they may not be as active as me on-wiki, they're around. Reception123 may be reluctant to approve, so I would recommend reaching out to Southparkfan at User talk:Southparkfan (his user talk page). You may have to wait up to a week for a response, but if you outline a well articulated use case and link to this thread, I think there's at least a chance you may have success. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Dmehus I asked the question there .. YellowFrogger (talk) 00:59, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Dmehus Hi...The user you referred to me has not made a contribution for 20 days. Are you sure it is active? indicated and provided at least 7 days to respond. --YellowFrogger (talk) 02:13, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
YellowFrogger I'll try and reach out to Southparkfan and have him respond to his message(s) on his user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 02:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
He doesn't answer, he probably ignored it, because he made a change today on the wiki YellowFrogger (talk) 04:11, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
This is a technical matter, and therefore should be addressed on phabricator as opposed to individual user's talk pages. There are other individuals qualified to answer this question who probably would only see it if you make the request there. -- Void Whispers 04:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Void Yes, I agree that Phabricator would normally be the better venue for this, but since it is security-related and since Universal Omega had reservations about it, I referred YellowFrogger up to Southparkfan as it would've likely needed Southparkfan's approval anyway as I doubt any other SRE team member would've approved it without Southparkfan signing off on it, so that's why I referred YellowFrogger to Southparkfan. Dmehus (talk) 13:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
And how to open a topic in Phabricator? YellowFrogger (talk) 23:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
I personally wouldn't recommend opening a request on Phabricator, given that only Southparkfan would be able to approve the request, per my comments and Universal Omega's comments above. Instead, I would recommend you e-mail Southparkfan at southparkfan at miraheze.org, stating the name and URL to/of your wiki, linking this discussion, and providing your reason for requesting this. Ask Southparkfan if he'd be willing to entertain this request and, if so, then file the task on Phabricator. That way, if he says a flat no, you've not wasted your time with the Phabricator request. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:27, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
I sent a message to him southparkfanTemplate:Amiraheze.org via email from onibuswiki at gmail.com yesterday How long do you think he has to reply? YellowFrogger (talk) 20:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 Great!. Southparkfan is usually most active on weekends, so I would give him until Monday to reply. If you haven't heard from him by then, {{ping}} me on a reply here and I'll gently poke him to take a look. Dmehus (talk) 20:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Wiki creator[edit source]

Hey, Dmehus! I came to ask about the wiki creator rights that was talked about about three weeks ago. I will ask my question in short form, i.e. when would I get to the user group "wiki creator"? It would interest me a lot! I look forward to your reply. Thank you. --Anton (talk) 17:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Anton Yes, I haven't forgotten about your interest. There's a lot of activities going on right now. We do have wikis being created in line with our service level expectations, so if I could just ask you to please keep translating and helping out on TestWiki for two to three more weeks until I have more time to prepare some wiki creator-type situation based questions for you, that'd be much appreciated. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 18:51, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Of course, I do my best translations! I understand your hurry. I, too, have been a little busy, when you dedicate your wiki family and I have been by constructing. Now it would be time to translate the pages so maybe I'll go from here to translate. Thanks to you too. Anton (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
@Anton: I hope I am not to much of a "talk-page stalker" but maybe if you have not already done it I could suggest to you that you read Meta:Wiki creators and the Content Policy so that you can prepare for the questions Dmehus wants to ask you and also for the role of wiki creator if you end up being successful in your endeavor. If it is fine I am also curious, what languages do you know? DeeM28 (talk) 16:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Anton To add to what DeeM28 said, if it helps, you could engage with Reception123 to prepare you some situation-based questions for wiki creator. In addition to what DeeM28 recommended reading, I would also recommend you read Meta:Wiki creators guide. Though not required reading for wiki creators, you may encounter previously closed or deleted wikis in reviewing wiki requests, so an understanding of Dormancy Policy is also helpful to wiki creators. Dmehus (talk) 18:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

planned interwiki administrator reform RfC[edit source]

Hi Dmehus. I come back to you as I remember a few months ago in December you mentioned via Stewards Noticeboard that you were planning to do a RfC about interwiki administrators during the first quarter of the year 2021. I am curious if you have any updates about that RfC and if you plan on preparing a draft for it soon. If that is not in your plans I would be happy to assist you with it if you would like. DeeM28 (talk) 12:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

DeeM28 Thank you for your note. Indeed, an interwiki administration RfC was, and is still is, planned; however, there's a fair bit of things going on right now, so its timeline has been back to sometime in the spring 2021 quarter, I'd expect. For example, the board of directors of Miraheze Limited has approved moving Terms of Use enforcement out of the Site Reliability Engineering's scope of authority and into a new board-approved and -managed Trust & Safety group (exact name has not been finalized). As well, we also want to hold a community director election, which involves several steps. Finally, some proposed amendments to Dormancy Policy may take precedence over this draft RfC. There's also less urgency to it, since it's been clarified since Meta administrators are specifically allowed in policy to edit the global interwiki table on Meta, and established conventions and practices are guiding us in this regard. Additionally, the policy does not limit the number of interwiki administrators there may be, so the only real things I'd rather clarify is to lower the requirements for local interwiki administrator and to decide on whether to use Meta Wiki or Loginwiki for the global interwiki table. Nevertheless, not to worry, it will be proposed at some point, but just not yet. Dmehus (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your very detailed response. I am looking forward to it and understand that as a steward you are busy and have many responsibilities. DeeM28 (talk) 18:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, DeeM28, for your understanding, and I'm very much looking forward to that RfC, as well as other planned RfCs and discussions, later this year. You can expect a full year's worth of community discussions in which to participate. There will also be at least a couple of local community discussions/RfCs on Miraheze Commons and Miraheze Template Wiki later this year that I am planning, though I'm not sure if you participate in those, but will keep you updated if you want. Dmehus (talk) 18:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

fandom move Miraheze[edit source]

Hi, how can I fandom move Miraheze wiki data?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 01:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Msnhinet8 Thank you for your question. It's a little unclear on what you mean, but I've assumed you're wondering how to migrate your wiki from a Fandom wiki to a Miraheze wiki. First of all, you will need to grab an XML export of your Fandom wiki, then you will need to file a Phabricator task requesting system administrators import your XML. Be sure to ask system administrators to specify the --username-prefix parameter as either --username-prefix="wikia:subdomain" or --username-prefix=wikia:subdomain where subdomain is the subdomain portion of subdomain.fandom.com. Note that this will not import your images; you will generally have to download those individually and then reupload them to your Miraheze wiki; however, you can enable the MsUpload extension to help the process go more smoothly and quickly. You may also wish to review Moving a wiki to Miraheze, too. Hope that answers your question. Dmehus (talk) 02:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
ok, thanks.
you can help me my 網路百科 domain change zh-tw.internetpedia.miraheze.org? --Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Msnhinet8 Not sure what you mean, but if you want to change your wiki's subdomain from internetpedia.miraheze.org to something else, this is possible; however, it's actually a system administrator task as it requires changing your wiki's database name. So, you will need to file a Phabricator task for that, too. In simple terms, if it can be done in ManageWiki or on-wiki, Stewards are who you need to ask; if it requires a maintenance script to be run or a change to your wiki's database name, system administrators are who you need to ask. Note, too, that wiki subdomains cannot contain non-alphanumeric characters. So, you could change it to zhtwinternetpedia.miraheze.org but not zh-tw.internetpedia.miraheze.org. You can also request a custom domain, so you could possibly have zh-tw.internetpedia.miraheze.org redirect to internetpedia.miraheze.org, but I personally don't think you'd be able to have the former be your primary wiki address. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:28, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
No problem. Dmehus (talk) 03:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
hi, if change https://internetpedia.miraheze.org/zh-tw this domain? can?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 11:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Msnhinet8 While it might be technically possible, this change isn't a DNS issue, and would like require adding a custom virtual host alias to nginx (Miraheze's web server software). Even then, it would just bee an alias for https://internetpedia.miraheze/wiki/, essentially. I will ask Paladox, John, and Reception123, three system administrators, for you; however, I suspect it's not something they'd likely want to entertain. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. --Msnhinet8 (talk) 23:16, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Request[edit source]

Hello,

Please contact me as soon as you are available on IRC.

Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (WB) 12:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Noting that this was  Done ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (WB) 19:43, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 23:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Recent locks[edit source]

Hello, where is spam evidence for this or this user?--MrJaroslavik (talk) 16:54, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

MrJaroslavik Thank you for the question. In regards to those users, not all spam only accounts actually spam the abuse logs or create obvious spam pages or spam only account user pages. Some are often sleeper accounts, created for later spamming or attempted spamming purposes. These locks were done following the precendent of Reception123 and others based on their usernames alone (i.e., usernames that reference erectile dysfunction remedies, prescription drug names or brand names, etc.). Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 17:35, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Checkuser request[edit source]

HI

Could you put me as CheckUser on onibuswiki, I have more than 5,000 editions and 30 days of activity there, here at META too, so I don't edit here.

Reason: See the tool and check a suspicious user

✔️I declare that, I do this in good faith. And I know the policies and terms of use for wikis --YellowFrogger (talk) 01:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

YellowFrogger Because the CheckUser, as well as the Oversight, tool(s) provide access personally identifying information, these are restricted user groups. While it is in theory possible for two local wiki bureaucrats to undergo separate local elections that meet the requirements of Stewardship for said user groups on a local wiki, in practice, your best bet is to simply request a Steward conduct an investigation, linking to specific diffs as compelling behavioural evidence that user accounts policy, or an appropriate other global policy, is likely to have been violated. You can make said reports via stewards' noticeboard or, alternatively, via #miraheze-cvt connect on IRC. Similarly, requests for suppression of specific revisions can be requested by Stewards, but, unlike the former, this should never never be posted or requested publicly and instead e-mailed to stewards at miraheze.org. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:48, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Tankipedia[edit source]

Do you to want to make page, edits and upload files on Tankipedia? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:01, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

  • plus, are you going to make me re-staff again on Tankipedia? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:01, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
    • ThomasTheTrainFan2 Unfortunately, the only way for you to obtain bureaucrat and sysop rights on your tankipediawiki is for you to hold a local election. Please this local election page on globalvisionwiki for how straightforward your local election page can be. After five to seven days from the start of your election, come back here and {{ping}} me to assess your election and grant rights. How's that? Dmehus (talk) 22:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
      • Thanks for taking for this local election thingy, but I don’t know what a local election is, do it in the easy way you, Dmehus can explain, and the a**ess too. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:20, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
        • ThomasTheTrainFan2 Well, you could just copy (and modify/adapt for your wiki and election) the wikitext of that example page (excluding the closing Steward's comments, of course) I showed you above, start a new page in your tankipediawiki, and paste it into your wiki. As a best practice, in your page creation edit summary, write: Imported from [[mh:globalvision:Local Election]] to ensure you're compliant with CreativeCommons attribution rules. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 22:24, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I made the Tankipedia page, and it’s called “Local fang-e....”, I did what you said and now I will show you, click on the link. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

ThomasTheTrainFan2 That LGTM, but you need to replace the "candidate" and "election" timeframe sections with your election. Also, you need to remove the closing Steward's comments, as that was from the other wiki's election. Dmehus (talk) 20:00, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
I removed the comments. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 20:04, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
That's good, but you still need to take out, "DesertWolf for both positions," and replace that with "ThomasTheTrainFan2 for both positions." You also need to update date your election started, replacing 4 February 2021 with 23 February 2021. I will then assess your election and grant rights accordingly on or around 2 March 2021. Dmehus (talk) 20:07, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Oof! ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 20:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Well, the local election page does have to be accurate, otherwise you'd end up electing the wrong user to those positions. So, I do recommend making those changes so the local election can start. Dmehus (talk) 20:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
I don’t know what you mean? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 20:18, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
are you going to respond? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Your local election looks good. Now you just have to let your election run. Remind me on 2 March 2021 by replying here, not before, to assess your election and grant rights. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
March is my birthday month. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:50, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Um, local um...I don’t know what to say...um, turn me, my local is running. Please turn into wiki founder on Tankipedia. please. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 19:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I blocked ThomasTheTrainFan, my first user but lost password. Yup I'm moving to ThomasTheTrainFan2. See you on Tankipedia 🙂. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
How can I change the theme on Tankipedia? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
ThomasTheTrainFan2 If you mean setting your wiki's default skin users will see, this can be done in Special:ManageWiki/extensions, selecting the "Skins" tab. You may also need to set something in Special:ManageWiki/settings. If you want to customize the style or colours of your wiki, this involves modifying your wiki's MediaWiki:Common.css file, for which I am not the best subject matter expert, and so I would recommend joining us on either Discord or IRC at #miraheze connect. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:47, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

You forgot about Ihatelynnloudjrforlife, also known as the main account:[edit source]

Ihatelynnloudjrforlife is the main account for Ihatelynnloudjr2. If Ihatelynnloudjr2 self-requested a global lock, wouldn't it make sense to lock up the rest of the accounts according to this request here? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I didn't forget about it. There is not behavioural evidence that Ihatelynnloudjrforlife that is related to Ihatelynnloudjr2. Having a similar username does not necessarily mean the users are related. Dmehus (talk) 18:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Dmehus Oh, I see. So there was nothing on that user either. Well, I guess I should let bygones be bygones. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Can you lock Dopictures and perform a CheckUser test to see if Corinne The Mermaid Of The Dreams is his sock?[edit source]

What both Dopictures and Corinne The Mermaid Of The Dreams did was unacceptable. They vandalized the Woody Woodpecker (2017) page on Loathsome Characters Wiki and no action has been taken on this yet on the wiki. - Trashanimal (talk) 21:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Trashanimal I'm not seeing enough similarity between those two users in the edits you referenced. I have, however, reverted the vandalism on that that page on loathsomecharacterswiki for you, and additionally protected the page at autoconfirmed for one week. As you seem to be active on that wiki, you might also want to reach out to DarkMatterMan4500 to request rollbacker and/or autopatrolled rights, which would be helpful for you in reverting vandalism. Dmehus (talk) 21:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Wiki request being weird[edit source]

My wiki request isn't doing anything when I hit edit/comment, just reloading, so could the name be changed to "infobox-playground.miraheze.org" and "Infobox/Template Playground" to make it not generic per your comment? Thanks. Arcversin (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Arcversin Well, it could be because non-alphanumeric characters aren't permitted in wiki subdomains, as far as I'm aware. However, your subdomain still suggest this is an infobox sandbox/experimentation wiki. If wanting to experiment, why not use Public Test Wiki, requesting administrator permissions that would allow you to develop infoboxes in either template or user namespaces? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for Removing the flooder User Group from me[edit source]

I am done fixing the lint errors and dealing with the wanted categories for today. :) R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 18:48, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

R4356th  Done, and thank you for your assistance with fixing the lint errors today. That's tedious work. I noticed your edits had the little b flag on them, though. Did you edit through the API, or use AutoWikiBrowser? If the latter, I'm thinking I really should use AutoWikiBrowser for my WikiGnoming if it allows that. I didn't think AWB allowed that, though. Feel free to request the flood when you need it in the future, as sometimes we forget to add it or don't see it. Dmehus (talk) 18:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I just realized I accidentally said that the request on your user talk page instead of my user talk page. Should I do make a dummy log summary to correct that? Dmehus (talk) 18:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
"Did you edit through the API, or use AutoWikiBrowser?" Nope, just the plain old core editing interface. :) "Should I do make a dummy log summary to correct that?" It depends on you. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 18:59, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. If you're not fussed with the log summary, I'll just leave it as it does link to your diff. Dmehus (talk) 19:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

hey, DougHuz[edit source]

I’m telling you that Tankipedia will be the future of writing and teaching and telling about Thomas the Tank Engine. did you remember that train. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 01:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)