User talk:Bbbtest

Improving templates

Since you brought it up here, I'll go ahead and share what I personally think is needed in the template space and what I haven't either had the time or the motivation to complete yet.

Firstly, getting a grasp on it is difficult because the automated Special Pages are filled with what is almost spam and stuff that just isn't helpful. The only coherent way to work with them I believe is categories. This is the starting area. There's three problems in the template space; incomplete imports (for example the user help templates with features in documentation or cases where there are module errors because those were incomplete), messy documentation which hasn't been fully adapted to Miraheze (we can look at examples if you/me/others find them) and incomplete categorization (templates just floating around in orphaned categories or none at all or done inconsistently, again usually because of messy import). It's all busywork, depends how much you'd be interested in. I think where possible templates should be simplified because we really don't need a lot of module gunk. Care should be taken not to change too aggressively to cause further mess and collateral but if you're interested in this we could collaborate. --Raidarr (talk) 17:20, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Raidarr: Thanks, I am glad to help! Though, I am not exactly sure where to start, so it would be helpful if you could start out by giving me select templates to improve before doing a full clean up. :) Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail | please vote on my adminship) 17:32, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Raidarr: I would definitely like to collaborate. Is there anything particularly bad/poorly done that I could help fix? Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 03:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay. To be honest I'm creatively stumped on Meta and Miraheze in general and it will take time to decide if I want to continue. If so and I become proactive again in actually realizing projects, I'll let you know. --Raidarr (talk) 21:35, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Email

I just sent you an email about an XML file containing the pages you wanted from Free Editing Wiki. Tali64³ (talk) 23:16, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@Tali64³: Thanks! I have replied to your e-mail. Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail | please vote on my adminship) 22:26, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Please do NOT edit war / cite offsite propaganda for users tidying noticeboards

Hello Bbbtest. You might like my header, because saying NOT in all caps is really cool. Your edit was reinstated because you were removing content with your summary implying you had the ability to do so purely because you made it. Because of this I reinstated it. Nothing had been revision deleted yet, at least not as far as I noticed.

In addition, please do not cite the "There's a reason you don't know" essay. That essay, apart from being nothing more than one person's opinion, is also completely horrid and used mainly for justifying fake actions. It was created relatively recently by a very controversial user and has been used as essentially the anti-ADMINACCT. In addition, I am someone who personally has issue with it, as someone who has been the victim of fishing checks, attacks/stalking by criminals using such permissions, and general non-trustworthiness of users with checkusers/oversighters. It is a bullshit essay and I don't want to hear about it ever. Especially not condescendingly "telling me to read it". I'm already familiar with it....unfortunately. Naleksuh (talk) 03:13, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Naleksuh: That doesn't justify assuming bad faith and accusing me of edit warring even after the edits had been RevDeled. Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 03:18, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Your edits were reverted and you reinstated it. That constitutes edit warring. There is nothing more to say in regards to that. Whether they were revdelled after (or even before) is irrelevant. Naleksuh (talk) 03:23, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Naleksuh: I only reverted twice. Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 03:38, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

That's two more times than you should have. If your edit was reverted, don't reinstate it unless there is an exceptionally large reason. And that was not one. Naleksuh (talk) 03:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Naleksuh: Why does the amount of characters in the reason matter, but not the validity? Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 03:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Agent Isai and Hispano76: Courtesy ping. Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 03:48, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

By "exceptionally large" I meant in validity. And your reason was just "I made the thread" which I explained was not a valid reason. You then re-re-re-removed it with no summary. Naleksuh (talk) 04:16, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi everyone,

Hopefully, this will be my last edit on Miraheze before I take a sabbatical for the weekend. Of course, I’ll likely be pinged, and then see it and be forced to respond, but it is what it is. Here’s my 2 cents regarding the situation.

Firstly, Bbbtest’s actions seem to be justified. Agent Isai has revdel’d the revisions as requested, and as it is a topic that they have created, I see no reason in removing it unless there is something important in the thread that should remain not in the revision history, but on the page itself.

Second, I would ask that we all try and assume good faith when it comes to these types of situations. From CN to here, to Naleksuh’s talk page, to Agent Isai’s talk page, it’s always preferable to solve things respectfully rather than resorting to insults and cold responses. While I understand that users may be frustrated with another’s actions, I ask that everyone remains respectful and cordial. For the most part, this has been followed, but I thought it would be best I post a reminder regardless. Users involved should note the GCP, and certain ones should remember the VCP.

Third, and lastly, edit warring goes both ways. The only war there can be an edit war is if 2 or more users are involved in multiple reverts of another’s edits. Both users here hold responsibility for their actions. I will also note that further edit wars could be deemed as disruptive, and Meta sysops could consider action. Again, the above comes into play, it’s always best to resolve conflicts with respectful talk page conversations as opposed to edit wars.

Hoping for a peaceful resolution to this issue. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 04:30, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@BrandonWM: Overall, I very much appreciate your comment, but I have to correct you on something: The whole thread could not stay in the page because it was, by its very nature, highly sensitive. If you would like to know more, send me an e-mail and I can share some limited information about it. Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 05:27, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Naleksuh: Another thing I forgot to mention: I didn't realize that it was just an user-created essay and not an official policy. Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 07:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)