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Could we add a link to the list of wikis on the home page?[edit source]

I'm not even sure where the link is, but it would be nice to have a link to the list of wikis.

The link would be Special:SiteMatrix but I'm hoping we manage to improve it (so it's not mediawiki-specific). -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 20:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
It would be nice add a few columns to the report if you get a chance to improve it. Date Started, count of Main Page Updates, Pages, maybe wiki owner? ----Robert
The extension is currently wikimedia specific and developed by others. Including this information (even if we already had the information) would be a lot more work. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 21:07, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! ----Robert

Main Page update[edit source]

I put a sample of the main page update here:

I couldn't remember where the language for the Donate section is so I just left it blank.

I replaced the word wikis with this

[[Special:SiteMatrix|wikis]]

wiki text

Wiki Analysis[edit source]

I was able to download the main page of all 695 wikis into a single zip file.

What would be the useful information to parse out of each page?:

  • Last Update
  • wiki title
PS the wiki title on main pages is created automatically, but is done using the {{SITENAME}} variable, so I'm not sure if it works for you or not. Also, I don't believe that the last edit to the main page is an accurate representation of when a wiki was last updated. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 22:48, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
I don't know if there's anything useful to be gotten out of Main Pages automatically. Maybe to see if they still have the default front page -- that might be useful to know. Now, if you meant a manual parse using your wetware, it would be great to have a one-sentence summary of what the wiki is about. It would be nice to have something with more content than just Special:SiteMatrix. Maybe we do something like our own version of SiteMatrix, and get each wiki to write a summary about itself -- possibly as a message page. That would be neat. (And I do realize that by "we" I'm saying "me") Vorticity (talk) 01:12, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
I'll try to get to the summary of what the wikis are about by time. I'll look at 20 or so of them to see if automation or getting more people to help is the easiest way forward. I'll also pull up all the history pages to see if I can parse out the logins of the people who have changed the wikis. Essentially I'm reverse engineering a contact list for the site.
Oh ya I also make a page for analysis wiki you can help or add from Special:Sitematrix, I made for easyly wacth action guest on the wiki and development a wiki and also see how many people was contributing. Do you support? see this

Regards – TriXMessage! 03:59, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

add link to homepage[edit source]

Add link publictestwiki.com for newbie before request a wiki?How?TriX (talk) 11:41, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, that would be useful, but TestWiki isn't really the "official TestWiki" of Miraheze. @Southparkfan: What do you say? Reception123 (talk)(contribs) 11:48, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Okay :)TriX (talk) 11:54, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Donation section[edit source]

Can someone add a donations section to the Main Page?

Maybe below the

Contact us
IRC: #miraheze (recommended)
Facebook: Miraheze
Twitter: @miraheze
On-wiki: Help center

section?


Donations

for details on how to make a donation, please see the Donate page.

Wondering how your donations have been used? Look at the Finance page.


Thanks! --Robert Sterbal 412-977-3526

There is already this besides the Contact Us where it says Contributing and please sign your posts with ~~~~. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 13:42, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Where will the incident review be published?[edit source]

"Miraheze has completed the database server migration. All wikis should be working as usual now, and Miraheze will work on publishing an explanation of this incident soon."

where will the incident be published?

Tech:Incidents as all other major incidents are reported at. John (talk) 21:11, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

{{NUMBEROFWIKIS}}[edit source]

Since the 1.28 upgrade, {{NUMBEROFWIKIS}} has been implemented. As the name suggests, it shows the current number of wikis that Miraheze is hosting (2240). I think it would be a good idea to include this on the Main Page. Any ideas on where it could go on the Main Page? Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 11:58, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

I created a draft here. MacFan4000 (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Looks good to me. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 13:58, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
The draft proposed by MacFan is good! ImBoPhil (talk) 16:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
I did also add a news item about updating to MW 1.28. MacFan4000 (talk) 13:48, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Looks great. If there are no objections from the community this would be a good addition to the main page (inc the 1.28 update news item). Borderman  talk | contribs | email 13:58, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Added. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 15:38, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

The cost of downtime[edit source]

There are quite a few costs associated with downtime.

Some are easy to guesstimate, others are not.

Since Miraheze is a service, there is an implied data loss to people not being able to add to their wikis.

To reduce data loss of existing data a robust process of backup and recovery needs to be documented and implemented. The backup process should help both the sysadmins recover the system, and allow the users of the system to back up and recover data on their own.

A discussion of downtime should happen either on wiki or in a widely promoted forum, not in a ticket tracking system.

Adding new categories for easier navigation[edit source]

I have noticed whilst browsing the site that there seems to be a few pages without categories. Was this intentional from the onset or have some categories been overlooked? I only ask because I use categories extensively for better navigation and believe that pages on Miraheze could possibly be overlooked by users because they are not always easy to find. Does anyone have any concerns if I created a few categories and if no, are there any objections to having a top-level category accessible from a link in the sidebar? I thought I would ask first just in case it was deemed a bad idea. Borderman  talk | contribs | email 21:51, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Feel free to create any categories that you feel are necessary. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 11:22, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
@Reception123: Thanks. For the time being I have made a start in tidying up the user language categories. In a few days time I'll continue to go through the existing categories and then the wanted categories. I am sure there are categories in there that aren't really needed. If acceptable, will you add a link to Category:Miraheze in the sidebar (or if not the sidebar, another prominent location of your choosing) for easier access to this top-level category? Cheers. Borderman  talk | contribs | email 22:30, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Category:Miraheze seems like a really good idea. Maybe some community members can suggest where this should be added. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 10:51, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Revi came up with the Category:Miraheze, however, it needed populating. If there are no suggestions in the next week or so as to where a link to this top-level category would be best suited, could a Meta Administrator place it in the menu? As categories are used for navigation, could it possibly go in the navigation menu under Random Page? Or is that too prominent a location? Borderman  talk | contribs | email 23:05, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Yep, I originally created a basic category hierarchy under Category:Miraheze (I only remember creating Tech and Requests. And meh.), and I think the spot below "About Miraheze" in the sidebar is the perfect location if needed. I have no idea for the good name. — revi 10:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
@Revi: I'm glad you started off the category structure as this kind of kick-started me into working on them. Could the top-level category link just be called "Categories" or is that just a bit too simplistic? This is what I have called mine but then my wiki is very different to Meta. It would be interesting to hear other people's views regarding location and name. Having the categories link in the menu would make finding many of the important article pages a lot quicker. Borderman  talk | contribs | email 14:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
I chose Miraheze because meta was basically about Miraheze itself. Most important resources are usually in main page or help pages but anyway. — revi 15:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
For further explanation the reason rootcat is 'miraheze' is the same reason our main page is named Miraheze. — revi 16:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Is there any way to adopt a wiki that is clearly dead, but not yet up for adoption?[edit source]

I requested and was approved for worldbuilding.miraheze.org, but then I learned that it already existed. Would it be possible to adopt that wiki since it is at the end of the time frame and the Sitenotice just hasn't been updated? Or, do I have to wait for the sitenotice to be updated? --BenjaminWiki (talk) 19:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

No, wikis may not be adopted unless they are closed. Anyway, from what I see the wiki could be closed by the inactivity script, only it currently does not work. When the script gets fixed and someone runs it the wiki should be closed, allowing you to request to adopt it. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 09:10, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

site messages[edit source]

Messages like this:

https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&action=submit Miraheze is performing maintenance on one of its database clusters due to a database crash. While your wiki might not be on the affected database cluster, all wikis are in read-only mode to protect the data of all wikis.

should include a date and time.

RobertSter (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Times are located/will be located here. Also, I'm assuming that you are same user as User:Rsterbal - if true, please do not use more than one account unless you have a good reason. That's not a strict policy for say, but it just helps with transparency of users and helps the staff identify users. Amanda (talk) 19:51, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
@Amanda: I have already discussed the account thing with Robert, and he does have a valid reason for them. Also just a tip, you can use wiki markup [[Page]] rather than normal links to the same wiki. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 07:40, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

IRC Logbot[edit source]

What software is used for the IRC Logbot? 24.39.1.139 16:51, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

botbot.me -- Amanda (talk) 17:18, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
No, for MirahezeRCbot 2600:1000:B006:AD89:6122:70C9:CBC5:482E 17:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
I don't know. I'll ask @John: -- Amanda (talk) 18:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Sorry I ment MirahezeLogbot. 2600:1000:B019:824D:AD58:ECEE:4A13:F4CE 20:22, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Searching for 'mirahezelogbot' on our Puppet repo and digging around a little bit led me here. There are several related files but this is probably the main code one. Look at other files inside of /modules/irc/ -- Cheers, NDKilla ( TalkContribs ) 21:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC)