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NotAracham's Request for global interwiki administrator
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- Clear consensus to promote. Congratulations! Agent Isai Talk to me! 18:40, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
User: NotAracham (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
After discussion w/ others who are either former or current inter-wiki administrators about responsibilities for the role, I see both a need to ensure redundancy in folks able to serve in this capacity as well as a good match for my background/skillset. To that end, I'd like to humbly put forward my name in consideration for the IWA role. I am open and willing to answer all questions within reason.
Please see comments for additional details regarding my CV/background/relevant skills. While this is a less-lengthy statement than my application for Wiki Creator, I'd like to give greater space for my answers to community questions to guide decision-making.
Additional comments given by user (if any)
CV Details:
- Active member in good standing (and serving as a moderator) of the Miraheze discord community, where the majority of interwiki requests take place at present
- Since appointment to Wiki Creator on 5 November 2022, I have diligently served in this role, taking ~950 decline or approve actions over this time for a daily average of 17 request actions.
- Miraheze Member since August 2022
- Prior to my time with Miraheze, I served as administrator to a RadioShack customer support forum, among which my duties included weeding out spam links from users.
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
- Comment: Just for the record, here are the prerequisites for requesting the GIWA role;
- Prerequisite 1: Have at least 500 total global edits on Miraheze (on more than one wiki); PASSED
- Prerequisite 2: Have had their Miraheze account for at least 2 months; PASSED
- Prerequisite 3: Be involved in some way in community matters (in discussions on Community Noticeboard, etc.) PASSED
-- Joseph TB CT CA 13:36, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Support
- Support I am the only GIwA now actively responding to requests, thus that's one of the reasons I'm in favour of this request; Other admins includes Doug who isn't active, Agent Isai who is a steward that is so busy attending to stewards' requests, and UO who is superbusy with the current technical situation on ground being a member of SRE. NotAracham is a wiki creator, and since we have a sizable number of wiki creators who actively respond to requests, I don't think they will find this duty to be an undue strain. With them on ground, I believe requests for interwiki table configurations wouldn't take longer than it takes currently. -- Joseph TB CT CA 13:53, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support NotAracham has been extremely helpful so far and demonstrated they can be trusted. I have no doubt they can carry out the role effectively. Our multiple previous experiences with granting rights to fairly new users gives me caution but I see no reason to cast doubt here. I hope 2023 brings a fantastic new volunteer to the advanced rights team. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (on) 21:01, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support No issues with this at all. Zppix (Meta | talk to me) 21:05, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support From my interactions with NotAracham, both off-wiki and on, they have acted in the utmost manner of respect and professionalism. I hold NotAracham in only the highest regard. I believe they will be an excellent addition to the interwiki administrator team. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 10:26, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- SupportVery trusted user. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 15:53, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support This is without a doubt, a very easy support for me. I have zero issues at all with this request, and they are trusted user. Universal Omega (talk) 05:45, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support I completely agree. NotAracham is a very reliable user.--1108-Kiju/Talk 09:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per above --Blad (talk • contribs • global) 12:42, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user. No issue with this.
--小美粉粉 (T - C - S) 1004065811 bytes of data NOTE: Do not {{ping}} me! 14:10, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support ez support. User was successfully nominated to the WC role by a Steward, and has since shown good judgement and the ability to defer to other people when in doubt. Will do a fine job. OrangeStar (talk) 20:06, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Abstain
Oppose
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HeyTürkiye's Request for Global sysop
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- Notice of withdrawal: Normally I was thinking of not closing this Global Sysop request, but after the decisions change, this page may turn from white to purple unfortunately or turn a red, you will always get it, whatever your success. I would like to thank the users who gave weak resistance, they helped to change my mind, to improve me. Normally I want to undertake important user groups that help Miraheze develop, I want to do this wholeheartedly, I feel competent, but unfortunately some users think that I have applied poorly and late. These users have a good time. Because when you give a comment to a user, the referrer focuses on him and continues to do so. Sometimes, unfortunately, due to a person's life, he can change his decision in the clearest way, and I am one of them. Unfortunately, I have received important and information about my academic life and 750 changes will be delayed due to important information, Hey Turkey will not be able to serve the users and will be sad :( came and it means that I will not be able to nominate and contribute until July 2023, Thank you to the users who voted, gave me their opinions, said your application is a bit early, I will consider this in the next application and I have decided to withdraw my application. See you on the application, then maybe I can satisfy you 😊 Hey Türkiye message? 15:13, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
User: HeyTürkiye (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
Hello Dear Miraheze Community, I am HeyTürkiye. As you know, this is my second application and I tried to focus on inexperienced subjects by realizing that I was doing some hat hunting in my first application and realizing that I was inexperienced. As you know, the number of Global Administrators is very small and consists of users who have the trust of the community. I know how difficult it is to have Global Admin rights, dealing with CVT requests, troubleshooting users, dealing with Vandalism, protecting pages when necessary is a bit of a challenge. Around 3200 I have Admin (sysop) rights on Feign Game Wiki (feignwiki) and have used administrator tools on wikis I own. My diary on Feign Game Wiki can be found here. My Usergroups. In general, I try to send requests to the help channel on the Discord server, be active in the chat channel, send interwiki requests, see information about cvt and often try to help users in chat. I usually write comments to RfCs, actively trying to implement my views. I am an experienced person who understands vandalism and the concepts of vandalism very well. I have read and accept the Global Sysop agreement. Whether the result is unsuccessful or successful, I wish the best for Miraheze. Hey Türkiye message? 18:29, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- In addition: As with any other application, I am happy to answer your questions. be it a positive or negative answer. I will continue to deal with inexperienced subjects by not reducing my motivation. Hey Türkiye message? 18:33, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
CV Details:
- More than 4000 contributions on Feign Game Wiki and its wikis More than 1000 administrator actions
- Member of Miraheze since September 2021
- I have experience writing an active article in Wikimedia projects and against vandalism. (since 2020)
- Active participation and comments on Discord and RfC
Questions for candidate
- What would you do if an account by the name of "Miraheze1111" was to be created? Violation of the Username Policy, or no? Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 07:23, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response First of all, thank you @BrandonWM for the problem, the Miraheze1111 username is of course against the Username policy and I will warn the user about changing the user's name from Global Name change requests. Hey Türkiye message? 07:58, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- How would you implement CVT decisions as a global sysop? Under what circumstances would you act alone, and under what circumstances would you seek input from other Global Sysops and Stewards before executing a decision? Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 07:23, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response First, to implement my own CVT decisions, I first look at how Vandalism is done, return pages for (undoes, page dumps, obscene content, etc.), then it depends on user preference (or Vandalism done eg: this user He vandalized 10 times in 1 week, this page should be protected) I will protect the page for a certain period of time. or I ask my colleague (CVT personnel) about what I will do from difficult tasks and I apply the necessary procedures and give the printout to the CVT personnel. Hey Türkiye message? 08:10, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Additional answer: Page protection, undo, etc. when I'm alone. I perform my global maid work under conditions. Hey Türkiye message? 08:13, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response First, to implement my own CVT decisions, I first look at how Vandalism is done, return pages for (undoes, page dumps, obscene content, etc.), then it depends on user preference (or Vandalism done eg: this user He vandalized 10 times in 1 week, this page should be protected) I will protect the page for a certain period of time. or I ask my colleague (CVT personnel) about what I will do from difficult tasks and I apply the necessary procedures and give the printout to the CVT personnel. Hey Türkiye message? 08:10, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
- Comment: The requirements to be eligible for the Global Sysop user group are as follows:
- Prerequisite One: Have at least 1000 total global edits on Miraheze. Met - 4940 global edits across Miraheze.
- Prerequisite Two: Have had their Miraheze account for at least 2 months. Met - Account created on September 17, 2021.
- Prerequisite Three: Be involved in some way in community matters. Met - Active on open RfCs and noticeboards.
Per above, HeyTürkiye is eligible for the Global Sysop user group. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 07:19, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- What is your Wikimedia account? --Blad (talk • contribs • global) 23:49, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response My Wikimedia account is User:Birazdangelicem. Unfortunately, I do not contribute anything because I am bored with my Wikimedia account. Hey Türkiye message? 08:15, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Support
- Weak support Weak support.I've trusted him/her for a long time.However I still have a little fear. by Buehl106 ·Talk·e-mail 12:23, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response Thank you for voting @Buel:, first of all I will ask you; Can you tell me your fears? If you tell me your fears, it will make a great contribution to your own development and I will take your writing into consideration. I will be glad if you tell me your fears again, good luck, have a nice day Hey Türkiye message? 14:30, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- @HeyTürkiye: The "fear" is what seems you don't have enough experience here,meta.Of course I know you've fought vandal and spam on other wikis many times.but it has no relation to activity on meta.Good luck.Thank you. by Buehl106 ·Talk·e-mail 14:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Abstain
Oppose
- Weak oppose Opposing as WP:NOTQUITEYET. While this user has good intentions in their interactions I've witnessed, GSysOp is a globally-facing countervandalism role that requires both precision and strong language context in the pursuit of countervandalism activities. There's been enough recent instances of lost context leading to misunderstandings in discussions on discord and elsewhere that I'm not yet comfortable granting my support, though this user is absolutely trending in the correct direction. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 00:02, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- @NotAracham: Response Thank you for your vote, but you know that we have a term called vandalism and it has always been seen as the right behavior for Miraheze, our users who will fight against vandalism. This has nothing to do with certainty, you can be certain about what kind of Vandalism is, general certainty does not benefit you or me, it is useful in blocking users who are vandalism. If you're saying it's a little early then, I say oh okay. Hey Türkiye message? 04:25, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak oppose I have to oppose under the same reasoning as NotAracham, unfortunately. While your answers to my questions were for the most part satisfactory, I think it’s a bit too early for Global Sysop. You’ve only made 350 or so edits on Meta as well, so I’d like to see that count jump at least to 750ish before requesting again. However, I must say I like what I see on your helpfulness with community matters, and if your work there keeps up, I would probably be more than happy to support a future request. As NotAracham said above, you’re absolutely trending in the right direction, you just need to go a bit farther. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 05:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response @BrandonWM: Thank you BrandonWM for the game. I know it's a little late, but to make 750 edits, there must be a lot of variety in Meta. I've put a lot of effort into making 350 edits and I guess it's impossible for me to be a little 750, but I'll go in that direction, I'll reapply for the 750th contribution. Thanks for the advice. Hey Türkiye message? 09:14, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- In addition: I think there was some translation error, I just took a screenshot. I will start the work tomorrow on at least 750 contributions and helping the community, Thanks again for your suggestion. Hey Türkiye message? 09:29, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response @BrandonWM: Thank you BrandonWM for the game. I know it's a little late, but to make 750 edits, there must be a lot of variety in Meta. I've put a lot of effort into making 350 edits and I guess it's impossible for me to be a little 750, but I'll go in that direction, I'll reapply for the 750th contribution. Thanks for the advice. Hey Türkiye message? 09:14, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Sorry I'm late. But there's a lot of work to be done if this guy wants this type of permission, no offense. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response @DarkMatterMan4500: Thank you for your vote. Please, I have a question: You said there is a lot of work to be done, no offense, what do you mean by a lot of things to do? I know that Global Sysop authorization is difficult, and I think I can get through this. (Sorry for being rude) Hey Türkiye message? 14:24, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak oppose per above --Blad (talk • contribs • global) 13:07, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Response @Blad: Thank you for voting, I will apply what users say despite what is written above. Thanks for joining other users' comments and giving me a +1 for working on that topic. Hey Türkiye message? 14:27, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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BrandonWM's Nomination for Interwiki Administrator
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Declined nomination, and thank HeyTürkiye immensely for considering me. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 00:03, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
User: BrandonWM (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
(NOTE: The user who created this nomination has nominated someone else.) BrandonWM, As you know, he is one of the people who share his views with us, I see often in RfC, and I see on Discord platform. His help at Miraheze is enormous. which is appropriate, which is inappropriate, etc. explains and presents to users. Due to the increase in Interviki requests these days (we often come across requests on the Boards, they come from the discord platform) and I believe that it will do this task as well. I hope he accepts the candidacy and writes the acceptance statement below. Hope the result will be good for Miraheze... Hey Türkiye message? 16:40, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Additional Information: If @BrandonWM: accepts the nomination, I would like to express my support. Hey Türkiye message? 16:47, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Note from candidate: I am honored to be nominated for the position of interwiki administrator. It is a goal of mine that I hope to achieve one day. However, I will have to politely decline the nomination for the position as I am confident in the current team of interwiki administrators that we have, and I feel it’s not the time yet for me to run for this role. Again, I am honored to be nominated, but as of right now it’s not my time. Thank you to all current and past interwiki administrators for all the work you’ve done, are doing, and will continue to do in order to improve Miraheze. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 23:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
- Comment: As a general note, unless I am missing something I don't see such a large number of interwiki requests on Discord or on-wiki as is suggested here (there was also this discussion in a recently closed RfC. The nomination makes it seem like there's a very large number of requests on Discord which aren't handled, which isn't really the case. There's also four active users who are currently interwiki admins and who quickly deal with requests. Reception123 (talk) (C) 21:12, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
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HeyTürkiye's Request for Global Sysop
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User: HeyTürkiye (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
Hello everyone, I'm HeyTürkiye. This will be my 3rd Global Sysop application. In my first application, I realized that I was hat hunting and withdrew my candidacy, in my 2nd application, I noted that I was a little late, a little inexperienced, other users were lacking in my opinion and I worked on those issues for 1 month and here I am again with the 3rd application. I know how hard it is to be a Global Sysop, how to fight against vandalism, how to have good faith discussions with users, how to protect pages, how to block/warn users (I have even fought against vandalism myself many times on other wikis) and I am confident that I will be able to handle it when I apply for Global Sysop. A little bit of my own background; I have done more than 4000 page edits and more than 1000 servicer actions on Feign Wiki (feignwiki) My user rights can be seen here. My diary can be seen here. On the wikis where I am a bureaucrat and an administrator, I use the administrator tools effectively, and I would like to say that I have made nearly 13 thousand contributions on global wikis. (Global contributions can be seen here.) I usually try to stay active on Discord or IRC and try to help users a little bit. (I also try to stay active in Interwiki requests, Support or offtopic channels.) Aside from my translation skills, I also translate Miraheze pages in my own language using my native Turkish. I have read the global policies and I agree that my authority will be taken away by the stewards in case of abuse. I will gladly answer your questions, whether bad or good. Whether my candidacy is successful or unsuccessful, let it be good for Miraheze 😊. Best regards, Hey Türkiye Message? 08:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
CV Details:
- More than 4000+ contributions on Feign Wiki and its wikis More than 1000 administrator actions
- Member of Miraheze since September 2021
- I have experience writing an active article in Wikimedia projects and against vandalism. (since 2020)
- Active participation and comments on Discord and RfC
- More than 13,000 global contributions (Central Auth)
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
Support
Abstain
Oppose
- Oppose This is the second request for Global Sysop in a little over a month. The reasons for my prior opposition have not yet been solved and in Hey_Türkiye's withdrawal on their prior request they stated that they will not have significant time to devote to the role if approved until July 2023 at the earliest. My vote has not changed. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 16:49, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose I agree with the above. Not much has changed between then and now. --Blad (talk • contribs • global) 22:25, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Per my oppose previously, I haven't seen enough from the user to show that they are capable of the global sysop right. It's too early. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 19:52, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
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Raidarr's Nomination for Global Sysop
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- Unanimous support. Successful. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:45, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
User: Raidarr (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
Raidarr needs no introduction. He was previously a Global Sysop and later a Steward here on Miraheze. He previously resigned as commitments in his life would make it impossible to properly tackle all the aspects of being a Steward but he returned a while ago and is very willing to help. He's been active here on Meta and has been helpful on the Discord front and has chimed in on various discussions which has been of great help as his rational thinking has always assisted the CVT and Steward team greatly. As I've always said, the counter vandalism work is great and requires as much help as needed. Raidarr has shown himself capable of being able to properly use the tools globally in the past and his help would be wonderful. There are various things which he has helped in the past which has positively assisted in our CVT workflow and I don't doubt his suggestions, changes, and help will continue to help the team. For this reason, I nominate Raidarr for Global Sysop. Agent Isai Talk to me! 18:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
I accept the nomination. I would not be comfortable assuming the full role of Steward right now, but I can maintain enough of a presence in the meantime to use these rights effectively and take the edge off when I get the right moments - something which appears to be needed as all stewards are once again quite busy. It seems to be a curse of the role. I remain in contact and on good terms with the current Steward team, something I'd think is quite important for anyone with this right. I expect to be present with current activity levels for the foreseeable future, as the circumstances that I expected to keep me away for much longer have ended. Questions and inquiries are welcome as ever; this may not be Stewardship but it is a fairly significant role deserving of scrutiny. --Raidarr (talk) 18:41, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
Support
- Support As nominator, per nomination foreword. Agent Isai Talk to me! 18:22, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support Raidarr was an incredibly welcoming presence when I first started to volunteer, serving as both a wealth of institutional knowledge and a source of reasoned advice when I wasn't sure how to proceed. I'm happy to see they're interested in rejoining the volunteer team in a greater capacity. While I sometimes find myself on the opposing side of a debate, I never have doubt that their views are well-reasoned and display sound judgement.--NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 18:49, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support I'm obviously supporting this. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:54, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support per above. Tali64³ (talk) 18:59, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support This is an easy support for me. I've known Raidarr for a while now on Miraheze, and they've been nothing but kind, welcoming, and incredibly supportive and responsive to questions that users have. Judging from their previous stint as a Steward, I have absolutely no doubt that they'll be a great asset to the team. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 22:03, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support I cannot point to any particular issues in Raidarr's tenure as Global Sysop and Steward and I think that he has done a good job overall. If he is ready to commit to being active again I have no issues with this request. --DeeM28 (talk) 09:42, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support Welcome back! by Buehl106 ·Talk·e-mail 10:12, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Per above. --Blad (talk • contribs • global) 20:36, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Obvious support in my opinion. Don't really have anything else to say, their previous roles speak for themselves. OrangeStar (talk) 13:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support per NotAracham. Best regards Hey Türkiye Message? 16:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support I like that Raidarr has worked as Steward and other roles in Miraheze. He would most likely spot any discrepancies or notice something before a fuller picture forms. I trust his judgement. --Imamy (talk) 03:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Cocopuff2018 (talk) 04:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support I completely agree. welcome back! --1108-Kiju/Talk 15:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user. No issue with this. Welcome back! It's very rare that a user is back after he/she is retired some time ago.
--小美粉粉 (T - C - S) 1004065811 bytes of data NOTE: Do not {{ping}} me! 10:36, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
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NotAracham's Nomination for Global Sysop
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- Unanimous support. Successful. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:47, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
User: NotAracham (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
NotAracham is a very dedicated volunteer. We see him constantly, every day, on the Discord and IRC fronts always assisting users and tackling many tasks. He is also a very prolific wiki creator and is extremely helpful. As I stated in the nomination for Raidarr, the Counter Vandalism Team is always looking for new members to help it, the field is great. While two requests at the same time might seem strange, I deem it necessary as the workload can get high and having two or three primarily active CVT members to deal with up to 7,000 wikis at moments is rather difficult. NotAracham has demonstrated to everyone that is very eager to learn and also eager to help out in any way possible. His input on many things is quite helpful. Globally, NotAracham also helps us patrol wikis sometimes and assists the CVT team in checking and triaging requests made to the team in venues such as on the #cvt/#miraheze-cvt channels on Discord/IRC. He is always attentive which is a big plus and could definitely help the CVT team reduce the overall time it takes us to action requests such as locks, local blocks, reverting vandalism, etc. Locally on Meta, he has shown that he has the skills needed and required for a role like Global Sysop (especially in the role of countervandalism) and has a very good understanding of MediaWiki, being a very avid wiki editor who manages his own wikis and has been a wiki editor for quite a while. He has shown to have very good understanding of policy and has very good communication skills which is absolutely vital to this role. NotAracham is an asset to the project and for all these reasons, I nominate NotAracham for Global Sysop. Agent Isai Talk to me! 18:57, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
I accept the nomination. While I was previously unsure if my current obligations outside of Miraheze and existing volunteer duties would allow me to accept, our very enthusiastic recent volunteers (thanks Tali!) have put any concerns I had about time commitments to rest.
For those who aren't as familiar with my CV and Discord presence, a little about me:
- Joined Miraheze in August 2022 after hearing positive things about y'all as a wiki-host
- Started assisting others w/ questions by mid-Sept 2022 to pay back all the help I received while starting out
- Currently serving as Wiki Creator (Nov 2022) and Interwiki Admin (Jan 2023)
- I maintain 2 public wikis (one of which was a migration from fandom) along with a personal wiki for other projects
- While not explicitly required for the role, I have a signed NDA with Miraheze and am on good terms with the members of the steward team that are on Discord.
I thank the community for the trust they have shown thus far in my tenure as a volunteer. One thing I plan to take forward from my time starting out as a Wiki Creator is that your veteran team members can be your greatest strength -- a second opinion is never a bad thing and there is a wealth of institutional knowledge to be had between our existing Global Sysop and Steward volunteers.
I am willing and stand ready to answer any community questions (within reason), thanks for your consideration and thank you to Agent for the nomination. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 19:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
Support
- Support Per nomination. I have no doubt NotAracham is an asset to the team. Agent Isai Talk to me! 18:57, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support We currently only have 2 Global Sysops. Having NotAracham (in addition to Raidarr when the request preceding this one is successful) will lessen the work that Stewards have to do. (P.S. You're welcome!) Tali64³ (talk) 20:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support I'll be honest, there was some pause in my supporting this request. The timing of this request coinciding with a number of other events on Miraheze was a bit odd. But it doesn't even matter in the end because NotAracham is that trusted on Miraheze. He's a wiki creator and Discord moderator, and even though he's not a global rollbacker yet (as I had outlined in my criteria for Global Sysop support voting above), he's an exception. From my personal and public interactions with him, NotAracham has been nothing but kind, respectful, and helpful to users in their times of need. He always has an excellent answer to a question posed, or will defer to others when he doesn't know the answer. He won't try and make up something random, he's a straight shooter. I completely support this request for Global Sysop, and think he will be a fantastic addition to the team. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 01:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- There is no "path of advancement" from global rollbacker to global sysop, because they operate differently (for example, you can opt out of global sysops, but cannot opt out of global rollbackers). Some people are both, some people are only one or the other. There's no need to treat Miraheze like some sort of heirarchy. Naleksuh (talk) 23:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- I would agree it's not a hierarchy per se but it must be pointed out that Global Rollbackers are defined as users "who help Global Sysops and Stewards" so the fact can't be fully denied. Additionally, in the introduction to the RfC Agent mentioned that he hoped "that this group serves as a stepping stone for future Global Sysops to gain the community's trust" and there was no opposition to the statement anywhere in this RfC. Therefore, I don't agree with the statement that there is no path of advancement. I would also disagree with the idea of having someone as both GR and GS and if that is the current interpretation would create an RfC to prevent that. The opt-out part is also an anomaly in my view which should be rectified. Reception123 (talk) (C) 15:25, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Naleksuh: Agree, definitely not a requirement, but for most users, I’d like to see some level of counter-vandalism activity on Miraheze before supporting the second-most advanced CV right on Miraheze. The reason I’m making an exception for NotAracham as because as the proposal outlines, they’ve been active on CVT channels internally and publicly. They’re also a Discord moderator for Miraheze, which is sort of CVT in its own way. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 06:38, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- I would agree it's not a hierarchy per se but it must be pointed out that Global Rollbackers are defined as users "who help Global Sysops and Stewards" so the fact can't be fully denied. Additionally, in the introduction to the RfC Agent mentioned that he hoped "that this group serves as a stepping stone for future Global Sysops to gain the community's trust" and there was no opposition to the statement anywhere in this RfC. Therefore, I don't agree with the statement that there is no path of advancement. I would also disagree with the idea of having someone as both GR and GS and if that is the current interpretation would create an RfC to prevent that. The opt-out part is also an anomaly in my view which should be rectified. Reception123 (talk) (C) 15:25, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- There is no "path of advancement" from global rollbacker to global sysop, because they operate differently (for example, you can opt out of global sysops, but cannot opt out of global rollbackers). Some people are both, some people are only one or the other. There's no need to treat Miraheze like some sort of heirarchy. Naleksuh (talk) 23:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Even if NotAracham has only been here for six months I had the opportunity to look into his contributions to Meta and was very pleased at how active NotAracham is on Meta and I take Agent Isai's word that this is also the case on Discord and IRC. It could have made sense to wait a while longer as there is not necessarily as far as I am aware an urgent need for Global Sysops but I think based on the level of activity it is acceptable. As for qualififations based on what I have seen on Meta so far and particularly in responses and comments in relation to the Requests for Comments I think that the level of discretion necessary for the role of Global Sysop is met. As I have said before to other candidates for Global Sysop, would like to recommend to NotAracham that at the beginning of his tenure as Global Sysop he takes things a little easier and does not hesitate to ask his colleagues for help regarding the customs, conventions and other aspects of the position as to not do things substantively differently than the current 'Team' does it. --DeeM28 (talk) 09:49, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Per above --Blad (talk • contribs • global) 20:36, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support In the bigger picture of CVT, NotAracham is new blood. Perhaps too new, but he has some qualities that boost him beyond his young account age. He's gotten on very well with current and (as of now) former functionaries; already he has been a useful advisor for community and to an extent even technical matters. Not to speak of his significant support in wiki creation and operating the discord. His influence is fairly 'gentle'; he would be a more conservative actor even among the current crowd counting myself, so he is a good moderating influence. Willing to say his piece but not be uncivil or boorish about it. He's quite willing to learn and collaborate, and he is a quite mature individual. In him there's a mixture that is hard to come by considering the rocky applicants for this role before and I think it would be worth giving him a chance. I find very little that would make me uneasy or concerned. I only hope we see this turn into a long and fruitful term, and not be, well, spotty as mine have been. --Raidarr (talk) 13:30, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strongest support @NotAracham is a general active user in Interwiki requests and Discord, everyone knows that. When I have spoken to NotAracham, he has always greeted me with a nice language, I have never seen a rude language. I even saw that he was active in Miraheze, just because he did not sleep and took a nap. That's why I want to use strongest support. I don't know if it can be a problem, but I believe that NotAracham will do his duty and work for Miraheze even if he is between UTC-07:00 and UTC-08:00 time zones (that is, even if there is a time difference). I wish NotAracham success in this new task from here. I hope it will be good for him. Sincerely regards Hey Türkiye Message? 16:15, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support I am relatively new to Miraheze. So I am only just starting to know the volunteers. I'm starting out with that statement because that is how I got to know NotAracham. When I lost my wiki due to db141, NotAracham was churning out how to docs. That really impressed me because he was so dedicated to empowering lost wiki users get through the db141 moment in time. I barely had a vocabulary and it was nice to have something to point at (better than fumbling with words that made no sense to anyone but me). More than that, when I opened a new wiki, he made it very clear what he liked and didn't like about my request, which provided invaluable insight into my own project. I like how inquiring his mind is, and how direct he can be at tackling issues. There's no doubt in my mind that he will make a great Global Sysop --Imamy (talk) 03:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Cocopuff2018 (talk) 04:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Per others. NotAracham has been a very helpful, neutral, calm, and collected volunteer, being very helpful on IRC, Discord, and in approving wiki requests. Collei (talk) 05:35, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support Per above.NotAracham is one of the best users on Miraheze.Job done by him/her is very great.No problem.Good luck! by Buehl106 ·Talk·e-mail 09:14, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user. No issue with this.
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DarkMatterMan4500's Request for Global Sysop
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- I'm deciding to not pursue this, and will withdraw for a fourth time. Sorry not sorry. Besides, I misunderstood what Reception123 has been telling me about the whole voting for new global sysops thing and whatnot. While I cannot deny my uptight anger gets the best of me a lot when it comes to dealing with persistent annoyance from LTAs, I think I'm just better off not trying this again. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:56, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
User: DarkMatterMan4500 (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
This requires no introduction here. I have been a member of the Miraheze community for over 3 years since my arrival here on January 29th, 2020, and it's been quite a blast. I have been helping with reverting vandalism within the span of 3 years, considering I've been quite helpful in terms of voting in RfCs, and giving my feedback on certain things. As you can see, I have since successfully acquired my global rollbacker flag back in October of 2022, as I have reported problems directly to the stewards and other CVT members through Discord (although I have also taken the time to report any ToS violations to the Trust & Safety team privately). With this, I can hopefully respond to requests easily, ranging from cleaning up any form of cross-wiki disruption and/or other forms of abusive behavior, try to calm down the storm before it can get any worse, and try to resolve the situation. I know I've attempted this about 3 times (1 in 2020, and the other 2 back in 2021), although I did withdraw the request as I felt like I wasn't ready yet, now I feel like it's the right time to shine here. I know some of you in here may have very little doubt, but you are more than welcome to voice them here by voting. Thank you for taking your time to read this request, and I hope you can consider me. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:01, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
In terms of me attempting this a 4th time throughout the span of 3 years, I really hope I can make a difference in this community. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:01, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Questions for candidate
- As of late, I haven't seen you as active on Miraheze and haven't seen you use your Global Rollbacker rights. Do you pledge to devote more time to the CVT work? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- What would you bring to the team? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Presently, we have 4 Global Sysops and 4 Stewards, 8 people in the CVT team, a record for CVT, why do you believe your addition would be beneficial for the team? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- In the past, concerns have been raised about your judgement. Particularly, concerns have been raised about somewhat rash and 'trigger-happy' attitudes displayed from you. What can you say about this? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- In the past, it's been noted that you sometimes seem to order Stewards to do things. I don't believe this is in bad faith but rather the product of miscommunication. What would you do to address any potential issues with miscommunication and how would you foment strong relationships with your fellow peers in CVT? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Global Sysop policy states that Global Sysops work with communities to address issues facing them locally. How do you interpret this? When do you believe it is acceptable for a Global Sysop to intervene locally? Only in countervandalism issues or does this include other issues? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- In your view, when would it be allowable to lock an account? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- What prompted this RfGR? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Do you foresee yourself being active in the near future, more so than you already are? Agent Isai Talk to me! 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Agent Isai: To answer the first question, I've actually been more active on my Kirby Wiki, which would explain the inactivity on Meta as of lately, and I actually have used my global rollbacker flag within the span of 4 months, it's just that I've been responding to them cross-wiki, and not just Meta. In other words, yes. To answer the 2nd question, I intend to at least help with backlogs (if I were to become more active than I have been here for the past few months), and try to at least help calm down the storm. To answer the 3rd question, I'm not quite sure how to process this, other than maybe show some support. Also for questions 4 and 5, I will admit I have displayed such trigger-happy attitudes that isn't expected from anyone else in this community, and seemed to have ordered the Stewards around, albeit not intentionally. I will also admit that I sometimes misunderstand what's being conveyed to me, so why would I need to try and hide it, especially when it's already out there for many people to see? As for question 6, what I can try to interpret in the best way possible without sounding stupid is to try to look into the situation without being one-sided, and try to get both sides of the story. I get that it might not mean too much, but this is to not make myself look extremely biased. As for question 7? It would be appropriate to lock an account if they are becoming problematic (such as egregious Code of Conduct violations, doing cross-wiki vandalism or other abuse, or other violations), and I intend to mitigate the disruption before it gets worse. To answer question 8, I simply thought there were some openings for people with experience to apply for this, but I somehow must have misunderstood what was being said to me. And question 9? I'll try to be more active here as well. Thank you for asking me the questions. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:09, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Support
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- Oppose DMM has been very proactive in reporting vandalism and LTA’s, however, the recent inactivity in the field concerns me, especially when claiming that they have gotten better in terms of rashness with nothing to show that it’s true. I would also like to note the constant hostility toward LTAs and users that “annoy” him, which is concerning for a group of users who (b)lock users. However, I would support it perhaps in a few months of CVT activity and signs of improvement. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 21:58, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- I could just withdraw this, and not pursue this. Besides, I've been more active on my Kirby Wiki lately, so I should seek the opportunity to edit there instead. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
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Buehl106's Request for global rollbacker
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- Successful with unanimous support. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:10, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
User: Buehl106 (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
Hello.Today I request Global rollbacker role.Agent Isai advised me that my experience would be more helpful by becomeing GR.(Example) So I decided to request this rights.In fact,I've been miraheze user for about 1 year and have admin/bc rights on many Japanese wikis.I am especially familiar with how to deal with vandalism through our activities on ysmwiki and wikisitewiki.Also, if I become a GR, I can quickly request the local administrator to remove any copyright infringement or personal information.There are currently few vandals at Meta, but in the past, I have responded to vandalism when there was some. Another reason for my candidacy is that Japanese language wikis are often neglected and vandalism has not been reverted.Thank you. by Buehl106 ·Talk·e-mail 22:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
Questions for candidate
- There is a big problem with sockpuppets and LTAs on Japanese wikis. If elected, would you assist CVT and report more sockpuppets encountered for CheckUser on the Stewards' noticeboard? Agent Isai Talk to me! 23:09, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Communication is important for the role. Do you foresee yourself potentially joining our Discord or IRC channels? Agent Isai Talk to me! 23:09, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Do you see yourself as remaining active in the near future? Agent Isai Talk to me! 23:09, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
- Comment:
Also, if I become a GR, I can quickly request the local administrator to remove any copyright infringement or personal information
I think you misunderstand the scope of Global Rollbacker; their purpose it to rollback edits, not deal with such violations of policies. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 23:05, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Support
- Support I don't see any real reason to oppose this request. Buehl is active on many Japanese wikis and I have seen them in action much though I haven't had much interaction with him. I'm sure that he'll be a net positive to the team and so I am I supporting this request. Agent Isai Talk to me! 23:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support Kind and active user, have no concerns regarding the user. Although I haven't really seen the Japanese wiki CVT work, I still believe that with the above, Beuhl is definitely a great fit for the team; as such I (strongly) support this. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 00:53, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Weak support I am not fully convinced that the candidate fully understands that their role is solely focused on rollback as well as the fact that global interference should not take precedence over local action. The group being a minor one however it seems acceptable to support this request and the candidate seems to be relatively trustworthy. --DeeM28 (talk) 10:35, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support As Agent Isai and others have stated, active user on foreign language wikis, understands the permissions they're requested. No reason to oppose. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 16:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support Buehl has shown themselves to be helpful in their efforts with our underserved Japanese-language wiki communities. I believe that they have strong potential to become an invaluable CVT member and this is a great first step towards that. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 20:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support Buehl is not limited to Miraheze, and has cleaned up many abuse on the Japanese wiki, and his activities are very reliable.--Funa-enpitu(talk/Posting Record) 06:57, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support I support this request. They have proven themselves and demonstrated some activity in countervandalism from what they are already able to assit with. Universal Omega (talk) 06:59, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support --1108-Kiju/Talk 08:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user. No issue with this. Good luck!
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- Support--虎之介 (talk) 12:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support per above. Tali64³ (talk) 19:54, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
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Bukkit's Request for Global Rollbacker
- Request withdrawn. Given the fact that I just recently came back from a wikibreak, I (and other users) feel like I need some more time before I re-request more rights. As such, I am withdrawing the request, and will spend time engaging in community work and others before a new request. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 21:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
User: Bukkit (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
Hello! I am requesting this right as a way to boost my CVT experience with a more hands-on “training”, as well as helping wikis with vandals. And although I just recently returned from a wiki-break, I believe that I now have enough time on my hands to contribute once more on Miraheze. I stalk the #miraheze-cvt-feed (cvt-feed/cvt-feed-experimental on Discord) frequently. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 14:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
===Questions for candidate===#What would you say that you bring to the team? Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- I believe that I can bring diplomatic relations with the users and the existing CVT team. I also believe that I can help some of the vandalistic edits that I catch on the #miraheze-cvt-feed. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 20:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Do you currently edit on any wikis? Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- The only wiki I am editing currently is Memipedia, although not that much. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 20:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- You have been largely inactive for a while until a few days ago. If elected, do you foresee yourself remaining active in the near future? Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, ever since I focused more on my health issues, I’ve been able to edit and do more things for an extended period of time without burnout. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 20:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- You previously served as wiki creator and global interwiki administrator; however, you only served in both roles for around 40 days before resigning. If elected, would you commit time to the role and stay on for longer than just a month? Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yep. I have more time on my hands since the wiki-break, and am ready to again volunteer.
- You were revoked over a year ago from patroller for vandalistic edits and from local IP block exemption for sockpuppetry. I have re-granted you patroller as time has passed since those incidents and I trust you have matured, as demonstrated by the fact that you were successfully elected to wiki creator and interwiki administrator. However, can you assure the community that you won't engage in such behaviors going forward? Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Ever since my wiki-break, I believe that I have matured from the past, and will not violate any policies. If such an incident does happen again, I will resign from my positions to preserve the integrity of the CVT team. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 20:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Support
Abstain
- Abstain I will change this to a support if you resume activity for a longer period, per BrandonWM. Collei (talk) 19:02, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Oppose
- Weak oppose I have a concern supporting this request. My reservation is in relation to your activity. You have been inactive until a few days ago, so to return and request a global right a few days later is slightly out of the ordinary. You have earned back the community's trust after that sockpuppetry issue, but when you requested wiki creator and global interwiki admin, you resigned quickly after. I would like to see some more continued, consistent activity before you request this right again. I believe you can and will do great with the right, but your activity needs to be consistent in order for me to be in support. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 16:07, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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1108-Kiju's Request for Global Rollbacker
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- Clear consensus to promote. Congratulations! Agent Isai Talk to me! 22:09, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Reason(s) for request
Recently I have seen many acts of vandalism on Japanese wikis. Most users who do these on the Japanese wiki post content that only native speakers would consider to be "vandalism". Most of these acts are not so malicious that they need to be reported to the CVT, but they do need to be reverted. When I find vandalism, I revert, but since it takes time when there are multiple contributions, I will apply for a Global Rollbacker flag to ensure a smooth response.
As you can see from CentralAuth, I have experience dealing with vandalism on multiple wikis. I have also reported them to CVT on Discord when necessary. The activity on Meta is sporadic, but activity on the Japanese wikis is active. I can continue to be active in the future. Thanks. --1108-Kiju/Talk 09:08, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- My experience in dealing with vandalism.
- Discord - CVT - Please search for "from: Kiju#5889".
- Meta revert logs
- Ysmwiki rollback logs
- WikisiteWiki rollback logs
- newusopedia revert logs
- Mh:hoshishinichi:Special:Contributions/1108-Kiju
- Mh:update:Special:Contributions/1108-Kiju
- Mh:sizukaworldview:Special:Contributions/1108-Kiju
- Mh:linworld:Special:diff/82
- Mh:migdal:Special:diff/1142
(only a partial list, there are actually more) --1108-Kiju/Talk 09:05, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
Support
- Support Has already been fairly active with countervandalism as much as they could be. Global Rollbacker is a quite minor group, so I have no issue with this request. Universal Omega (talk) 09:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Strongest support Most of miraheze users already know his activity.No issues.Good luck!! by Buehl106 ·Talk·e-mail 10:41, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support--虎之介 (talk) 12:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support there has been a lot of vandalism on JP wikis. Good luck! Collei (talk) 12:24, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support--Funa-enpitu(talk/Posting Record) 13:36, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support Per Universal Omega. Hope to see you join the team! BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 16:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support From what I have seen of their work administering several non-english wikis, my impression is that of stable and generally-impartial guidance. Given the limited scope of this role + their proven support from the communities they'd oversee, I have no reservations in supporting this request. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 19:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support per above. Tali64³ (talk) 19:54, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support per above. Best Regards --Hey Türkiye Message? 11:37, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support No concerns from my side; no concerns raised by others as well. -- Joseph TB CT CA 19:10, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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BrandonWM's Request for Global Interwiki Administrator
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- Consensus to promote with admonition on BrandonWM to seek input from peers if unsure to prevent misunderstandings. Agent Isai Talk to me! 01:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Reason(s) for request
I'm applying for the role of global interwiki administrator because I believe that I can be a useful asset in that field of work. I am an active Meta patroller and have over 2,100 contributions globally, over 1,200 of those occurring on Meta. I am active on Miraheze's Phabricator and GitHub operations, where I assist (where possible) in the technical side of things for Miraheze. I'm also active on the Miraheze Discord server and IRC channels, where I regularly help out users with their questions and concerns. I've decided to put my name forward for consideration after discussion with a few other users, who encouraged me to put my name forward for the role in order to help Miraheze in a more extended capacity. All questions are more than welcome, I promise to do my best to answer any and all that you may have.
Additional comments given by user (if any)
- Comment: Prerequisites for Global Interwiki Administrator;
- Prerequisite 1: Have at least 500 total global edits on Miraheze (on more than one wiki): Passed
- Prerequisite 2: Have had their Miraheze account for at least 2 months: Passed
- Prerequisite 3: Be involved in some way in community matters (in discussions on Community Noticeboard, etc.): Passed
===Questions for candidate===#Who can request an interwiki prefix be added to or removed from a wiki?
- What are some things you might want to do before adding a new interwiki prefix to a wiki?
- What's wrong with this request?
Requester:ExtremelyBannedUser URL: bread.fandom.com Prefix: meta Link: supernaturalwiki Forward: Transclude:--NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 02:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- To answer #1, only local bureaucrats may request an interwiki prefix be added to the table. If the interwiki admin is a local bureaucrat, or if they have been given authorization by local bureaucrats to add prefixes to the interwiki table, then they may. Otherwise, they should not add prefixes. For #2, I’d want to confirm that the prefix isn’t malicious (spam, piracy links, etc.) and that the prefix is a valid URL. I’d want to confirm that it’s formatted correctly as well, making sure the $1 is in the appropriate location. To answer #3, firstly, the prefix cannot be Meta. Meta is a global interwiki prefix that is sent to meta.miraheze.org, and should not be removed from a wiki. Second, there is no preference selected for the Forward or Transclude options, yes or no. Thirdly, there is no $1 in the URL, so it isn’t indicated where the link would direct to. I would assume that the link is bread.fandom.com/wiki/$1 as that is the format for FANDOM wikis, but I would want to double-check with the wiki bureaucrat that is requesting the prefix before actioning anything. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 02:48, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Great stuff, thanks for the quick replies! Largely correct, a few minor things: 1. Per the Interwiki Administrators page, if there's clear community consensus to add and no active bureaucrats to authorize it, this is also acceptable. 2. Every single major thing is covered in your answer, great work! A minor quirk to know: Trailing spaces in the linked site can cause problems, if the user complains the interwiki isn't working that's a great thing to check if it snuck in. 3. The only thing you missed: Given this format, they're requesting an interwiki be added TO Fandom, which we can't do since we're not fandom. :D That one was a bit sneaky, no points deducted. Overall, great answers that give me confidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotAracham (talk • contribs)
- Thank you! Oops, I must've mixed up the format haha, will keep that in mind for the future. Will make sure to check trailing spaces, and will keep community consensus in mind. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 03:02, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Great stuff, thanks for the quick replies! Largely correct, a few minor things: 1. Per the Interwiki Administrators page, if there's clear community consensus to add and no active bureaucrats to authorize it, this is also acceptable. 2. Every single major thing is covered in your answer, great work! A minor quirk to know: Trailing spaces in the linked site can cause problems, if the user complains the interwiki isn't working that's a great thing to check if it snuck in. 3. The only thing you missed: Given this format, they're requesting an interwiki be added TO Fandom, which we can't do since we're not fandom. :D That one was a bit sneaky, no points deducted. Overall, great answers that give me confidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotAracham (talk • contribs)
===Comments by other users ===# Comment: When I saw this request for global interwiki administrator, it reminded me of something I found while browsing through talk page archives. When BrandonWM was unblocked on appeal, one of the two unblock conditions was to not self-request for any permissions requiring a community vote. This was over 8 months ago, and since then, Brandon has been very helpful around Miraheze, so I doubt that anyone would care. While I'm not opposing this request, there was no time limit set for the conditions to expire, and to my knowledge, they've never been lifted manually, so by making this request, Brandon is technically breaching one of his unblock conditions. This is a very minor thing to bring up, so feel free to vote support or oppose on this request regardless of this comment. Tali64³ (talk) 01:09, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- If I’m being honest I forgot that that restriction was in effect, and there wasn’t any mention of it. If a Meta administrator would like me to rescind the request, I’m happy to do so as it’s technically in violation I suppose. I have already reached out to a Meta administrator for clarification on the issue as soon as I saw this, and am awaiting response. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 01:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Agent Isai has approved a temporary waiver on this requirement for this RfGR. The condition listed above has been waived only for this RfGR, to clarify. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 02:08, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- As mentioned before, there is nothing to allow people to "waive" restrictions on entirely their own whims, likely the reason Agent Isai chose not to post it onwiki. Naleksuh (talk) 02:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- For the sake of argument and formality, I'll retroactively nominate BrandonWM if this is perceived as needed. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 02:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- As mentioned before, there is nothing to allow people to "waive" restrictions on entirely their own whims, likely the reason Agent Isai chose not to post it onwiki. Naleksuh (talk) 02:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Agent Isai has approved a temporary waiver on this requirement for this RfGR. The condition listed above has been waived only for this RfGR, to clarify. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 02:08, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Support
- Support He is super helpful around Miraheze, is really nice and respectful and when I first joined, he helped me find out how MH works! 《Commetian_Empire》 (talk) 01:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Weak support While there isn't a particularly strong need for another IW administrator given current workloads, having another non-Steward/GS user to handle what workload does exist isn't a bad idea. Roles requiring greater nuance might give me hesitation, but interwiki administration is a straightforward role that I believe BrandonWM will excel at given their understanding of the Miraheze platform. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 02:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support Is there really a need for anymore GIWA users? Not really. However, BrandonWM is a solid user, skilled in multiple aspects of Miraheze. I have no doubt that he will fit well in the team. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 00:35, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support I agree with.BM is very active and has much knowledge about mw and interwiki.Sure trusted. by Buehl106·Talk·e-mail 04:45, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Weak support per NotAracham. Best Regards --Hey Türkiye Message? 11:37, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support per NotAracham. --1108-Kiju/Talk 15:28, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support Without hesitation. BrandonWM has been around for a long while and I'm sure they would do well in this capacity. -- Joseph TB CT CA 19:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Abstain
Oppose
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MrJaroslavik (Revocation - Inactivity)
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- Revocation successful. Reception123 (talk) (C) 04:36, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
User: MrJaroslavik (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
As is customary when I begin a request of this nature I would like to start by thanking MrJaroslavik for his service as Global Sysop over the years and by saying that this request is not 'personal' but merely a request from a "functionalist" perspective. As I have before mentioned it is my belief that in order to be Global Sysop a person must be active and available to action requests regularly. This does not exclude the possibility that there is simply no request to action as activity outside of the use of the tools is relevant to the consideration. In October 2022 MrJaroslavik asked for a confirmation vote which ended up passing even though the own standards that were set were not met. It can be seen that the votes that supported MrJaroslavik were not enthusiastic and it must be said that at that time it could be argued that he was somewhat semi-active. I am opening this request because since then circumstances have changed.
Just by looking at MrJaroslavik's edits to Meta in the year 2023 there are only 7. There are some log entries related to some maintenance in March 2023 and a few CVT actions in February and March 2023. Since March 2023 MrJaroslavik has largely disappeared from Meta except for one insight.
Reviewing all this I conclude that the activity is insufficient for the role of Global Sysop and that the rights are no longer needed or used. I once again thank MrJaroslavik for his service but I believe that he is no longer interested or no longer has time to fulfill it. As a final reminder the Miraheze Spaces Code of Conduct states: "If something occurs in your life and you can no longer find time to devote to your roles, find a way to step down gracefully. If you don't, other people on your team may always await your opinion and stall things waiting for your very delayed review or response. Some users may become discouraged from seeking advanced roles which they would be a perfect fit for because they think the role is adequately staffed when in reality, it needs more active users.". I have debated whether to attempt to ask MrJaroslavik via his userpage if he considered resigning for these reasons but given the fact that he did not after the confirmation vote I think it was a fair assumption that he did not wish to do so.
Since there was confusion in a past vote: Support means that you support the revocation (you no longer want MrJaroslavik to be Global Sysop). Oppose mean that you oppose the revocation (you want MrJaroslavik to continue to be Global Sysop). --DeeM28 (talk) 17:12, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
Hello all, reply to all users: Yes, I failed, I am aware of it, there are few reasons why my activity is low - watching of feeds is time consuming, there are reports in #cvt channel, but most of time they are created and processed when i sleep or it are requests for stewards - but that doesn't change the fact that my GS activity is really really low and it's my personal failure. Reason why I didn't is same as before - it looks like alibism and you don't have to believe me that it's not HAT collecting or some kind of show-off - but just because what if something happened and no one else was online, but again, it's my failure. As you may have noticed, I do not agree with direction and changes in the community, it's also reason for my inactivity. I will keep Meta Administrator permission until I complete tasks that i want to do or until i decide if i will continue here.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 10:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- @MrJaroslavik: While the process is by no means complete, it is evident that this request has a strong, unlikely to fail basis for support. It's a shame that the direction of the platform is not to your liking, I'd be happy to discuss in public or private however it may help but it is your prerogative to carry on if you feel it won't really change regardless. Do you wish to resign the GS bit on account of the factors you've explained, or would you wish to see the process continue to its procedural conclusion? --Raidarr (talk) 13:06, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- It is surprising to me that you admit to us that you "failed" and that you are inactive but yet do not propose to resign. I would remark that activity is an implicit requirements for all roles and as such I take the admission that you are inactive as an implicit admission that you are no longer able to fulfill the role. I once again thank you for your work but if you do not agree with the direction of Miraheze and no longer wish to continue would it not be easier to resign permissions rather than wait for the community to hold a vote? I do not believe it is very pleasant to hold revocation votes and also not the most effective use of the time of community members. As for administrator I am troubled by the fact that you say you complete tasks "that you want to do" since an administrator should not be doing tasks that they "want" when they want but instead should perform tasks that are relevant and important to the community and be active in that role. I also do not believe it is fair for the community to have to wait until you decide whether to continue as I would contend that you have had many months to do so. I sincerely hope that my observations do not seem unfairly harsh but I strongly believe in the idea that that when users are inactive or no longer motivated it is best for them to give up their hats and potentially regain them in the future if they are later able to participate again. I also believe that the community would be more wiling in the future to vote for someone who resigned voluntarily rather than someone who had to be revoked by a vote. DeeM28 (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- I personally don't have very high standards in terms of activity requirements of volunteers. For me, trustworthiness, competence (both technical and procedural), and a spirit of collaboration and collegiality to work with both other volunteers, community leaders (i.e., Stewards), and the community at large matter most. To be clear, I think you are both trustworthy and technically and procedurally competent. I can certainly forgive the low activity (my own activity has been intermittent recently), or if someone is completely absent, but if someone is active on other platforms and semi-actively watching the CVT feeds but then not actioning anything, it does give me a bit of pause than, say, someone who is only able to be active on certain days of the week. It's fine to disagree with the current direction of the community, with Miraheze, or in the formulation of policy; I certainly have not agreed with everything, just as I'm sure Agent Isai, for example, doesn't agree with every one of my ideas, but saying you disagree with the direction of the community and that that is a reason for one's low activity/motivation and then that you wish to stay on as a Meta administrator until you've finished with self-identified tasks seem to be at cross-purposes with each other. I tend to agree with DeeM28 here in that is puzzling to say the least. Dmehus (talk) 16:37, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- It is surprising to me that you admit to us that you "failed" and that you are inactive but yet do not propose to resign. I would remark that activity is an implicit requirements for all roles and as such I take the admission that you are inactive as an implicit admission that you are no longer able to fulfill the role. I once again thank you for your work but if you do not agree with the direction of Miraheze and no longer wish to continue would it not be easier to resign permissions rather than wait for the community to hold a vote? I do not believe it is very pleasant to hold revocation votes and also not the most effective use of the time of community members. As for administrator I am troubled by the fact that you say you complete tasks "that you want to do" since an administrator should not be doing tasks that they "want" when they want but instead should perform tasks that are relevant and important to the community and be active in that role. I also do not believe it is fair for the community to have to wait until you decide whether to continue as I would contend that you have had many months to do so. I sincerely hope that my observations do not seem unfairly harsh but I strongly believe in the idea that that when users are inactive or no longer motivated it is best for them to give up their hats and potentially regain them in the future if they are later able to participate again. I also believe that the community would be more wiling in the future to vote for someone who resigned voluntarily rather than someone who had to be revoked by a vote. DeeM28 (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
Support
- Support Per the reasons I give above in my statement. --DeeM28 (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support, regrettably. Since his last self-imposed vote of confidence, I was hoping that he would improve in his activity but that is not the case. He is rarely seen, even in his capacity as Meta sysop, when there is plenty to do not only in the CVT field but also in the community. We all had hoped that he would improve his activity but it appears that is not the case and he is rarely active or seen which is of concern. If this is successful, I would hope that he also gracefully resigns as Meta sysop as this inactivity extends to that role too. Agent Isai Talk to me! 20:30, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support per the above. MrJaroslavik is a valued member of the community but unfortunately, is not active enough to justify the occupation of global sysop. One day in the future, if he becomes active again, I would be happy to see a re-request. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 02:27, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: I hope he will be active and we will nominate again (or he will run himself) who knows :D Hey Türkiye Message? 12:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 13:45, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support per @NotAracham, Dmehus Although I regret the retirement of the users, it is obvious that he has done good works for Miraheze behind him. I wish you success in your real life, which will take place from now on, and wish you good luck. Hey Türkiye Message? 12:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Imamy (talk) 15:45, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support per the arguments articulated by the DeeM28, in bringing forth this discussion, as well as what others have said. As Reception123 subtly hinted in his close that MrJaroslavik was free to voluntarily resign as a Global Sysop given the lukewarm reception to his self-requested reconfirmation request. Since then, his activity has, admittedly, not met his own standards. In addition, I would also add that has demonstrated a persistent pattern of conduct in being willing to work with me collaboratively and constructively, when I served as a Steward and an administrator on Meta Wiki. I believe the source of this conflict stems from August 2020 when I responded to Universal Omega's good-intentioned request to delete some duplicate voting templates MrJaroslavik had imported and which were duplicative of the existing voting templates, which had various parameters built into them. As was a Meta Wiki convention, I had discussed it with Universal Omega, Reception123, and perhaps a couple other users, in a public channel, all of whom agreed with the deletion. MrJaroslavik took issue with that and, since then, has essentially
copy-pastedself-plagiarized his own community noticeboard discussion regarding his personal annoyances with me, which the community rejected, into a Stewardship revocation request, which the community rejected, into a Meta administrator revocation request, which the community again soundly rejected, and then into a second Stewardship revocation request. The point of demonstrating this is to demonstrate that his support for community consensus is highly conditional—predicated on the condition that it generally fits within MrJaroslavik's personal views. Taken together, not only has MrJaroslavik not adhered to the letter if not the spirit of the Miraheze Spaces Code of Conduct but also the Volunteer Conduct Policy, in which volunteers are to be held to a higher standard in terms of working collaboratively and constructively with colleagues and the community writ large. Dmehus (talk) 03:05, 20 May 2023 (UTC) - Strong support By their own criteria laid out in their own request for confirmation, they should have stepped down. By the terms of the MsCoC, they should have stepped down. I do appreciate their contributions over the years to the Miraheze project, but even nominal engagement with the community beyond a blip of activity every one or two months would have dissuaded my support.
This has not happened, and given their lack of overall activity, I cannot in good faith conclude that they can continue to be effective in the Global Sysop role and must give my support to revocation. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 03:11, 20 May 2023 (UTC) - Support Unfortunately after having giving this much thought over the last couple days, I have come to the decision to support this request for the reasons articulated above, and failing to meet their own standards set out in their own confirmation. Universal Omega (talk) 08:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support This isn't something that should be discussed. Our precious time is being wasted. -- Joseph TB CT CA 05:18, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Abstain
Oppose
Strong oppose. Lets say, for example, this user logs in in a week and finds their Global sysop rights removed. Do you think not having these rights will encourage them to be more active? No, it will discourage them into actively editing ever again. If we want our users to become active again, removing their rights involontarly is not the answer. Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 16:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Per Dmehus. Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 03:21, 20 May 2023 (UTC)- Response I Strongest support Exactly what you said, but each user will also have a final contribution. We will have a job in the future, we will go with other jobs and we will never be active again. Our aim here is not 'No, this is not active, let's take his power and not encourage him to contribute', but 'It is our natural right, myself included, to want to pave the way for the formation of new global operating systems and a bit of new staff. But if we look at it from this Aside; it is really sad that one of us is gone. I can't say anything to him, but everything has an end of course. Hey Türkiye Message? 20:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Response But he may be upset if he sees that his authority has been taken unannounced. This is officially unannounced. Based on this, I'm voting for Strongest oppose. Hey Türkiye Message? 20:38, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- As you may remember, a few months ago (early 2023?), MrJaroslavik himself submitted a vote of confidence against himself for his inactivity. It failed because of the awkward formatting + the general hopes that after that, he'd improve his activity. He hasn't improved at all (see his contributions) despite the majority saying that his inactivity is worrying and if this fails then I'm worried that the community has fostered a protection for inactive users and is enabling them to stay on indefinitely even if they're chronically inactive. Since I became Steward, I have rarely seen MrJaroslavik in action apart from an occasional lock every few months (I haven't seen him action anything recently). I don't wish him any bad and I have strongly desired to see him active and collaborating with CVT and Stewards but if he is so chronically inactive and nothing has changed since his vote of no confidence a few months ago then I believe it would be graceful to step down if he cannot devote any time to the project. If he doesn't realize a vote is going on right now because of his inactivity then that's quite worrying. Agent Isai Talk to me! 21:00, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Response I Strongest support Exactly what you said, but each user will also have a final contribution. We will have a job in the future, we will go with other jobs and we will never be active again. Our aim here is not 'No, this is not active, let's take his power and not encourage him to contribute', but 'It is our natural right, myself included, to want to pave the way for the formation of new global operating systems and a bit of new staff. But if we look at it from this Aside; it is really sad that one of us is gone. I can't say anything to him, but everything has an end of course. Hey Türkiye Message? 20:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Strongest oppose per Globe. It is very disrespectful to take the authorization of this user without any knowledge of it, it will not benefit Miraheze to take the authorization of a 4 year old user just because he is 'inactive' without knowing. If not informed, I will change my strongest opposition to weak opposition. Hey Türkiye Message? 20:42, 19 May 2023 (UTC)- It also does not benefit Miraheze to have an chronically inactive user on rank and file either. Agent Isai Talk to me! 21:00, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Response @Agent Isai It does not, it is true, but it is not right to authorise a bidet without its knowledge. Instead of encouraging the user to contribute, you are abusing them. Please do not do this, I ask you. In addition; If the user is not active, he/she can resign from his/her position. Why are you acting in the style of 'he is not active, let me take his authorisation'? I think the measure of activity should be measured by him, not us. I think we should wait until he makes a statement. Hey Türkiye Message? 21:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- But it does benefit Miraheze if the user helps out when they are actually available. Removing rights prevents that. Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 00:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have left a nudge discord-side to make him aware of this request directly, someone would be free to take the liberty of notifying him via talk page additionally (I'm surprised that wasn't done initially tbh). As far as the measure of activity, the measure is made when active users see that a user is present or is not - if the person isn't here then they're obviously not in a great position to be making that call in the first place. This is not a circumstance requiring auto-removal for being completely absent in a policy-defined length of time but I must agree that MrJaroslavik's participation has been very low for a long time, further so in recent months, especially subsequent to when he made a bid for WC/a self-initiated ratification vote that has been described above already. It is clearly written in the Code of Conduct: "If something occurs in your life and you can no longer find time to devote to your roles, find a way to step down gracefully. If you don't, other people on your team may always await your opinion and stall things waiting for your very delayed review or response. Some users may become discouraged from seeking advanced roles which they would be a perfect fit for because they think the role is adequately staffed when in reality, it needs more active users. By stepping down, you help encourage more users to take up advanced roles which they may be suitable for." That may or may not be applicable in full here but it is evident that we have multiple functionaries, this case for Global Sysop but the case can be made in several places including meta adminship and operational roles on satellite wikis to Meta, who should reconsider their hats on this basis. --Raidarr (talk) 23:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- --- I don't know if contacting MrJaroslavik will make a difference. Generally when one disappears, that person really is MISSING and WON'T OPEN MESSAGES. The reason for this vote is to make it possible to open up a spot for someone who can be an active Global Sysop. By refusing to revoke when the position is held by a dormant user, in time that may also start a trend of roles filled by a growing population of dormant users. To create additional positions to offset the dormant positions is not a solution, because over time, the staff collective will just tune out the clutter of dormant roles. ---Imamy (talk) 04:19, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Pinging HeyTürkiye here as relevant, I have notified MrJaroslavik via his talk page about this request. I do not know if he will see it, or if he will see Raidarr's Discord message, but we've done what should be done to notify him. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 04:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- MrJaroslavik has been online on discord and has at least participated in discussion within the past few months with a long history of showing up 'eventually', and he has also participated recently on Wikimedia 'across the fence' on some wikis. I cannot promise he will respond in a timely manner but I do believe he is not absolutely absent. --Raidarr (talk) 11:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- It also does not benefit Miraheze to have an chronically inactive user on rank and file either. Agent Isai Talk to me! 21:00, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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HeyTürkiye's Request for Global Sysop
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- Closing per Meta:UCP, I will open the next application when someone nominates me, there is no consensus about me yet. I think voting is not important, the important thing is whether that user can do this task, I think it is important. Thanks to everyone who voted. I'm acting on policy, this is not a withdrawal statement. --Hey Türkiye Message? 18:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
User: HeyTürkiye (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
I would like to submit my candidacy by referring to the past Global sysop nomination. I am well versed in the policies on the English Wikipedia, Behavior policy and participate in the RfCs and am mostly active on Discord. I think there is a need for a new Global Sysop as MrJaroslavik has also left us. I would be very grateful if you would definitely let me know your suggestions and comments, Your comments and opinions are very important to me. I wish the result to be beneficial for Miraheze. --Hey Türkiye Message? 12:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Additional comments given by user (if any)
CV Details:
- Member of Miraheze since September 2021
- More than 14,000 Global Regulations (CA)
- Active participation and comments on Discord and RfC
- 2000+ edits on Meta Wiki
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
Support
Abstain
Oppose
- Oppose The rationale for my original opposition in January and the following February 2023 request mostly still stands, though I will note your tendency for mistranslations to lead to unnecessary hostility and comprehensibility have both somewhat improved...
However, your heavy reliance on translation tools for communication outside of your native Turkish, combined with frequent misunderstanding of English-language communications and translated replies that often confuse your intent, lead me to the conclusion that this remains a role in which you would not thrive at this time. I look forward to the day when I can support your nomination. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 14:52, 27 May 2023 (UTC)- How will it cause confusion @NotAracham, I'm waiting for a detailed explanation. Every 3 months, a person needs to change their mind. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Per NotAracham, essentially. There are still standing issues which give me concerns about how you would function in this role. One day, perhaps, you can run for global sysop, but I don't believe that today is that day. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 15:43, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment "Unfortunately I have to argue with the same logic as NotAracham. While your answers to my questions are mostly satisfactory, I think it's a little early for Global Sysop. You've only made about 350 edits to the Meta as well, so that number jumps to at least 750 before I request it again. That said, I have to say I like what I've seen regarding your helpfulness in community issues, and if your work there continues, I'd probably be more than happy to support a future request. NotAracham said above, you're definitely heading in the right direction, you just need to go a little further. Thank you" I would like to remind you of the sentence you said to me, BrandonWM. I would appreciate it if you didn't take it as a person who didn't fulfill your promises. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:05, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
I haven't "promised" anything. I definitely didn't promise you a future support vote as soon as you crossed an edit count number. I said I would be more inclined to support it. But I'm still not where I need to be in regards to my comfort level with trusting you with such a senior position and the responsibility that comes with it. And frankly, I would appreciate it if you didn't accuse me of not fulfilling promises when in fact I never made any. An argument could even be made that that comment violates the canvassing policy, attempting to intimidate me into voting support? And telling NotAracham that he needs to change his mind? These are the conduct issues (and now canvassing) that I do not wish to see in a global sysop. Sorry, this is now a strong/strongest oppose for me. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 16:12, 27 May 2023 (UTC)- -_- huh @BrandonWM, I just wanted to say that I have honored your wish for me. I've already put a comment mark because it's completely unrelated to the topic. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:15, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- sorry for the misunderstanding. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Very well, my apologies on that front, you weren't clear. That also relates to NotAracham's concerns, where intent has been conveyed grossly incorrectly, obviously not a good thing. I'm still confused though, about your response to NotAracham above? "Every 3 months, a person needs to change their mind." If that's not canvassing, I don't know what is, it seems to be a clear request to change his vote. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 16:18, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- I fully respect my vote for NotAracham and I didn't say 'change your vote'. I mentioned that people change regardless of their opinions, i.e. when your opinions change. My aim is not to change votes. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- If you, for example, don't change your mind at all, you can ask a detailed question like 'what is the point of view of your opinion', you have the right. But my aim was definitely not to change my vote, my aim was to ask a question. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- I fully respect my vote for NotAracham and I didn't say 'change your vote'. I mentioned that people change regardless of their opinions, i.e. when your opinions change. My aim is not to change votes. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- -_- huh @BrandonWM, I just wanted to say that I have honored your wish for me. I've already put a comment mark because it's completely unrelated to the topic. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:15, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- I would add that I'm still so confused with regards to what you mean. I have removed my strong oppose and mentions of canvassing, with apologies to you, but I'm still confused. I believe you were acting in good faith when you wrote those messages, which is why I have retracted my statements, but to be quite honest, your message previously didn't make much sense. I'll remove the canvassing part of this, but the intent concern has been demonstrated in this thread alone. It's not necessarily your fault, but rather the language discrepancy. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 16:28, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Apart from that, BrandonWM, if you have questions about CVT and sample scenarios, I will be happy to answer. As I mentioned above, the questions you ask are very important to me. --Hey Türkiye Message? 16:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment "Unfortunately I have to argue with the same logic as NotAracham. While your answers to my questions are mostly satisfactory, I think it's a little early for Global Sysop. You've only made about 350 edits to the Meta as well, so that number jumps to at least 750 before I request it again. That said, I have to say I like what I've seen regarding your helpfulness in community issues, and if your work there continues, I'd probably be more than happy to support a future request. NotAracham said above, you're definitely heading in the right direction, you just need to go a little further. Thank you" I would like to remind you of the sentence you said to me, BrandonWM. I would appreciate it if you didn't take it as a person who didn't fulfill your promises. Hey Türkiye Message? 16:05, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Cocopuff2018 (talk) 18:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
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Tali64³'s Nomination for Global Sysop
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- The support ratio required for Global Sysop is not met and therefore this request is unsuccessful. Reception123 (talk) (C) 17:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
User: Tali64³ (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Reason(s) for request
Hi there. I'm excited to nominate Tali64³ to be your next Global Sysop at Miraheze. Tali64³ has served immensely well as a wiki creator for the past few months, taking care of sometimes 30-40 requests per day. If you're a new-ish user to Miraheze, and you've put in a wiki request recently, chances are it was responded to by Tali64³. They've shown competency and skill in responding to requests, and would be an amazing asset in CVT to assist in counter-vandalism activities. We currently have 3 members of CVT, two of which are Stewards (those two are SRE as well), so CVT would be well aided with another few volunteers. As such, I would like to nominate Tali64³ to be the next Global Sysop on Miraheze. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 15:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Statement given by nominated user
Thank you so much for the nomination. When I joined Miraheze on September 24, 2019, I wanted to migrate my humor wiki to a better platform; at the time, it was hosted on the legacy version of Google Sites (I still miss the Project wiki theme), but the main drawback was that no one else could contribute to it, which became possible on Miraheze. I had never expected to be nominated for Global Sysop or even be a wiki creator; however, in December 2022, I noticed a large of amount of wiki requests in the queue, so I nominated myself for wiki creator. An SRE member then clarified that requests were on hold due to a hosting provider error causing database issues, but I chose not to withdraw my request for wiki creator. The community wasn't really familiar with me, so I received few supports and lots of abstains, which was what led to my request for wiki creator failing. However, I reapplied a couple of months later with a different goal: to help handle wiki requests as fast as possible; in the meantime, the community had become more familiar with me, and I got weak supports instead of abstains, successfully becoming a wiki creator. Since then, I've handled anywhere from 95% to 99% of all wiki requests that have come in. I have also had some experience fighting spam and vandalism, from Wikipedia to ShoutWiki, with a few reverts in between on Miraheze. If I am elected as Global Sysop, I will make sure that vandalism reports are handled as fast as possible, just like I currently handle wiki requests as fast as possible. I've helped new wikis begin on Miraheze; now I want to help existing wikis continue free of issues. Tali64³ (talk) 15:38, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Questions for candidate
Comments by other users
- The requirements for Global Sysop are the following:
- Have at least 1000 total global edits on Miraheze (on more than one wiki, unless that wiki is Meta Wiki) (Note: These edits may not consist of directly copy/pasting content from other wikis, they must be edits done by the user); Qualified
- Have had their Miraheze account for at least 2 months; Qualified
- Be involved in some way in community matters (in discussions on Community noticeboard, etc.); Qualified
BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 15:30, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Support
- Support As proposer. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 15:32, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support In wake of recent events we need additional members in the various community-related roles. I believe that this user is one of the only users who would even qualify to serve in this role, and I trust them to use their best judgement surrounding learning curves and avoid rushing into things if they are unsure. – AmandaCath (talk) 17:41, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- I think and feel this user should get chance. Additionally, i looked at their English Wikipedia edits and there is about 75 vandalism rollbacks (undo tag) from about 700 edits. And there are no recent warnings or anything related to patrolling on their user talk.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 18:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note that sounds like experience potentially more suitable for Global Rollbacker, if I'm being honest. It also doesn't demonstrate any active use of that tool, on Miraheze. Miraheze's Global Sysop role is unique to that of Wikimedia, in that it also includes global IP blocking and user account lock/unlocks, tools customarily used by Stewards on the Wikimedia wikis. This requires both a higher level of competence, demonstrated policy knowledge and capability, technical capability, and, as Agent Isai noted, judgment skills. As well, Global Sysops, through a recent RfC, are active on all public wikis and opt-out is no longer possible (never what the RfC intended; rather, there was some confusion by participants, as I understand it, who thought Global Sysops might not be able to enforce global policies on opted out wikis). Dmehus (talk) 18:10, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support To me, Tali64³ demonstrated sound judgment and rapid actions, I see no reason for Tali64³ not to be Global Sysop.--Nobody679 (talk) 06:47, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support If they want to do it, why not? Many opposes are mentioning global rollback, but I think that's just a dead-end role, because, compared to GS, they have much less advanced permissions. GR membership isn't going to make anyone's concerns about the advanced permissions GS holds go away. I also see no concerns regarding judgement. They have WC, so they're already trusted as a MH user's first contact with us. OrangeStar (talk) 11:23, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support Per above. AlPaD (talk) 19:42, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Strongest support When I saw that Tali64 was running for GS, I thought for sure there would be all supports and no opposers. I was wrong. This is honestly very sad. Tali64 handles at least 90% of all wiki requests and honestly, Miraheze wouldn’t function with them. They clearly have a very clear understanding of our global policies and have dedicated a lot of time to improving the wiki. AND we have a huge need for more GS/stewards to help fulfill requests. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tali64 sees this opposition to their request and is very discouraged and retires from Miraheze altogether for the same reason BrandonWM did. The community not supporting their most active and frankly most trusted WC is baffling to me. Why do they need to have experience in global tools? They are active and use tools well on other wikis. The only way to gain experience with global tools is to actually have them. I am very disappointed in the Miraheze community for this. Come on people. Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 14:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- To be honest, I don't know much about CVT. However, I don't think that CVT is the only area that needs volunteers. CVT is the most developed area. Just because a position doesn't yet exist and the activity happens to not involve any specialized tools, doesn't mean a need doesn't currently exist.
- I oppose this proposal because the GS position has already been defined with an established structure and protocol that I don't know much about. At this time, I prefer not to redefine any established positions from what they were originally created and developed for.
- I think that Tali64 has incredible leadership qualities. Enough so that I'm willing to risk introducing new unknowns that come without checks and balances into our current system. I put in a request in the Community Noticeboard to post a request to invite more community participation on current open requests. I considered all the statements made by Supporters and came to realize that we are not all on the same page and the gap is too wide. If the Community elects Tali64, I will adapt and go with that new perception of what GS position will stand for.
- With that said, I would still much prefer to see undefined vacancies get developed.
- --- Imamy (talk) 16:06, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure if you responded to the relight comment. I said nothing about “ redefine any established positions from what they were originally created and developed for.” Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 16:35, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Globe
- I was responding to your statement. I felt our requests/proposals were heading down a path where there was only one way to look at issues and I really wanted more diverse opinions and got overzealous in sharing mine.
- My perception is my own and you made a very good point that volunteers could leave, so when I shared, I went and shared badly. "redefine any established ..." was the thought that popped in my head and I know what I mean when I say it, but ... clearly the message lacked context. I'm sorry for any aggravation that may have caused. Imamy (talk) 04:48, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure if you responded to the relight comment. I said nothing about “ redefine any established positions from what they were originally created and developed for.” Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 16:35, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Weak support Shifting vote to weak(est) support. I stand by the logic of my original oppose, but recent departures have shifted my thinking that add'l volunteers will be necessary sooner. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 20:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Partial support I change my vote, agreeing a bit with NotAracham, because most of the CVT staff are involved in SRE. But a lot of the text in my dissenting vote is still valid, but it is not a task that everyone can do in GS. Tali you say you can do it, but dealing with vandalism is not easy. I would like to say this as someone who has experienced it for almost 3 years. But since you have full confidence in GS and you say I can take on this task, let's watch. But you should also try GR if this application is fruitless. But by GS, so it would be beneficial for Tali and Miraheze to change my vote from opposition to support. Good luck with your candidacy. --Hey Türkiye Message? 21:08, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support There is a clear necessity for additional help in community roles right now and I feel that Tali64³ has shown that they are capable already with their Wiki Creator hat. Redmin Contributions CentralAuth (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- Tali64 has the competence needed for GS. GR and GS are not the same, not similar, and frankly, doesn't really count as experience in my opinion. I have no oppositions toward the request, and fully Support it. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 19:09, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support Miraheze's future is yours!
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- Support Tali64³ has clearly demonstrated an interest in Miraheze and a willingness to devote time to the project overall. At a time when depth in volunteers seems rather critical for Miraheze, absent anything disqualifying, I don't see why we wouldn't let Tali64³ invest his talents helping wikis beyond just creating them. Jph2 (talk) 15:31, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
- Support Because there is a new nominee for Global Sysop. Since I may confuse people about the reason, the most I can do is point to a point that was made a while back in a different RfC regarding my feelings toward teams.
"promote several active members simultaneously" --- Imamy (talk) 06:57, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Abstain
- Abstain I have decided to exceptionally abstain in this case. The main reason behind this is that I observe that there are many well respected users who have decided to oppose this request and have concerns about the requestors judgment but sadly those claims have not been substantiated enough for me to be able to join them. At the same time I believe that such a large number of concerns must indicate that something is not right and consequently I do not believe that I would be able to support in good conscience either. --DeeM28 (talk) 12:44, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Oppose
- Oppose Tali64 hasn't demonstrated the ability to use global tools just yet. I additionally share the concern about judgement at times which can be impaired and potentially problematic as he sometimes overreacts on things and acts rather bluntly. At most, I would advise trialing as Global rollbacker but Global Sysop is a no-go from me. Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:26, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- I admit that I have had no experience with global tools. However, I believe that I make up for it with my experience using admin tools on the many wikis I own; global tools are just an extension of those. I also believe that I have pretty good judgement; for example, I have processed thousands of wiki requests in the four months I've been a wiki creator, and the other wiki creators (including you) have only expressed concern for a very small fraction of those (less than 10). There have also been few incidents in which I have overreacted to something. One of those was the time I attempted to move one of my wikis to independent hosting due to a report made by an anonymous user who had been vandalizing that wiki; I admit that it was partially my fault for not stating that the user had been vandalizing, but I eventually decided to cancel the move. The other was actually a few messages in the Miraheze Discord server I had sent earlier this morning when I thought that I'd lost access to my account after enabling 2FA, which is reasonable. Generally, I try to be as kind and level-headed as best as I can. Tali64³ (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose exactly what Agent Isai said. Tali64 is generally collaborative, well-liked, helpful, and courteous, but my concerns are around judgment for this role. For global interwiki administrator, I could happily support. Dmehus (talk) 15:34, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Oppose I would like to see Tali64³ serve as global interwiki administrator before taking on global sysop.Support Because there are 2 candidates for GS. --- Imamy (talk) 06:51, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Clearly, Tali64³ is very task driven. However, since all the global positions interact with each other, it would be good to get a feel for the issues that administrators address, especially in terms of conflict resolution involving communities.
---Imamy (talk) 17:16, 7 June 2023 (UTC)- @Imamy: I would note that GIWA isn't really an administrative role, rather a role for adding interwiki links. It doesn't persay deal with issues that administrators address, including conflict resolution. You wouldn't be able to gain a sense of conflict resolution skills from interwiki administrator. Hope that clarifies. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 19:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- @BrandonWM: To clarify, I don't get the sense that Tali64 is comfortable with discussions. I would find it easier to come to you about a problem because you are more willing to be specific about my concerns. Feeling-wise, that will move my issue towards resolution much more quickly regardless of whether I get my wish or not. Imamy (talk) 20:56, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Imamy: I would note that GIWA isn't really an administrative role, rather a role for adding interwiki links. It doesn't persay deal with issues that administrators address, including conflict resolution. You wouldn't be able to gain a sense of conflict resolution skills from interwiki administrator. Hope that clarifies. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 19:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose too early --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 19:12, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Oppose for the same reasons as already stated by others. While Tali is prolific in their role as WC with minimal errors and gives me no doubt that they would work as diligently if appointed to Global Sysop, their handling of and line of reasoning on ambiguous cases does not give me full confidence at this time. I would wholeheartedly support a run for Global Rollbacker for them to gain deeper familiarity with CVT nuances, though. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 22:17, 7 June 2023 (UTC)EDIT: Striking opposition. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 20:34, 9 June 2023 (UTC)- Oppose I can't support this for the reasons outlined above by Agent, Dmehus, and NotAracham. Universal Omega (talk) 06:50, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Striking as now a nonexistent user on Miraheze. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 03:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- I have reverted this good-faith edit, as we don't do that. The !vote was cast by a duly qualified !voter as at the timestamp of their !vote. Dmehus (talk) 03:55, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- The only policy that discusses how votes by people without accounts should be counted is the RfCP and it instructs Stewards against counting them. The !voter's qualification when the vote was not cast should not matter if they are no longer a member of the community when a Steward determines consensus. That said, I agree with not striking this particular comment due to the unique circumstances. Redmin Contributions CentralAuth (talk) 15:04, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- I have reverted this good-faith edit, as we don't do that. The !vote was cast by a duly qualified !voter as at the timestamp of their !vote. Dmehus (talk) 03:55, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Striking as now a nonexistent user on Miraheze. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 03:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Per the rationale of other. Maybe if a little soon for now to take the GS but as we have now the Global Rollbacks, it may be a good start for you. HeartsDo (Talk / Global) 09:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Weak oppose per Agent and Universal Omega. Zppix (Meta | talk to me) 15:13, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Oppose I've been seeing @Tali64 very active on Miraheze lately, and I congratulate Tali64 for his prompt response to wiki requests, his instant replies to my comments on Discord, and his participation in important community forums such as Miraheze's RfC. However, the Global Sysop role, as @NotAracham has said many times in my applications, is a role aimed at combating vandalism, and it is not something that many budding users can handle. The Global Sysop has a lot of duties (like dealing with CVT, visiting wikis, knowing the policy on Wikipedia and applying it). Apart from that, I have an important note for you: I suggest you to be more active in the community, to stand out. Right now your edit count is around 800-900. I think you should reach at least 1500 edits here. Apart from that, I suggest you try the Global Rollbacker group in the next applications. Then I will give you my support. But as soon as you feel that you have fulfilled the need to become a Global sysop (when I see that you have fulfilled it), I will give you the strongest support in your next application. Let me put this as a note. Apart from that, I agree with NotAracham and Agent Isai, but this process will take some time. (It's like being active in the community, every user has these moments) I wish you Good luck until your next application Tali. --Hey Türkiye Message? 05:23, 9 June 2023 (UTC)NOTE: I changed my vote. --Hey Türkiye Message? 21:06, 9 June 2023 (UTC)- Edit count is not very important when determining suitability to a role; instead, activity is one of the key factors in determining such suitability, and I have clearly met and perhaps even exceeded any activity expectations. I know the duties of Global Sysops and believe I am ready to help with the workload; to prepare for this, I have started monitoring the CVT feed to combat any vandalism I see. Several users have suggested that I apply for global rollbacker instead, but that role wouldn't help me much with helping the current CVT team handle their workload, which is one of my main reasons for applying for GS. Tali64³ (talk) 15:35, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. by Buehl106·Talk·e-mail 12:43, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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