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Meta main page[edit source]

I wanted to see what others think before I do anything - The main page (Miraheze Meta) is currently in a partially moved state. The root page was moved from Miraheze back in March of this year by Agent. Much of the page content is transcluded form subpages, however these subpages were not ever moved. As far as I am aware, the moving of the root page wasn't discussed with anybody, and really should have been before any action was taken, similar to how the project namespace was renamed without prior discussion. I would like to see what users think about this. Should we move the subpages so that they are under Miraheze Meta, or should we move Miraheze Meta back to Miraheze. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 17:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Here are my two cents: I think the entirety of Miraheze Meta should be renamed to Miraheze Hub. (I mean, does hub.miraheze.org not have a ring to it?)
However, I'd prefer if the subpages stayed under Miraheze Meta as Miraheze refers collectively to all wikis, while Miraheze Meta is the central one. To simplify, I don't like the idea of naming the main page after the term for all wikis and the farm as a whole. 😀Pawn😀 (💬Talk💬/✅CentralAuth✅) - 🛫Horizonspedia🛫 18:01, 22 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
All subpages should be moved to be under Miraheze Meta, IMO, simply to fix the partial move. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

How can I search the community portal for previous questions and answers?[edit source]

I think I asked a question here awhile ago but its hard to search, there's no apparent way to search the community. How do I do so, is there any documentation on it? YousufSSyed (talk) 10:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

You can do a normal wiki search with the search box: Special:Search/code freeze.
If that is too generic, you can append intitle:"Community portal", like so: Special:Search/code freeze intitle:"Community portal".
For comprehensive (but probably excessive) search syntax documentation, see mw:Help:CirrusSearch. BlankEclair (talk) 11:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@YousufSSyed:
What are you looking for?
  • You can also manually search the archives if you remember the names or dates or keywords.
  • If you are looking for a post where you contributed an answer or question, you an also search your own contributions.
--- Imamy (talk) 14:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Request for Feedback: Splitting Community Portal[edit source]

Recently I have been looking over the contents of Miraheze Meta and considering ways we can better organize the site to make it more useful to Miraheze's users and the public. One idea I would like to put forward concerns the Community portal. At the moment it serves two purposes: Miraheze project-wide discussion, and general purpose help desk. Most of the threads on the community portal relate to specific users' needs, which is not interesting to most users. This makes it harder to follow along with discussions that are of interest to the project as a whole. (I also have a side complaint that "community portal" is not a very clear name, especially since on Wikipedia, "community portal" refers to something completely different.)

There are a few possible ways this could be addressed, but I would like to propose a simple solution: split it into two boards.

  • Create a new Help desk that would receive most of the current traffic.
  • Create a new Community noticeboard that would centralize discussions in the Miraheze community.
  • Put a notice on Community portal directing people to either place. Keep the archives where they are.

I am interested in your thoughts. Harej (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is quite a good idea and I would support it entirely. However, I think the Community noticeboard name should be retired in favor of a more intuitive name. "Community discussions" would be a good name, in my opinion, for a page relating to discussions which the entire community can take part in. Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I personally like the name and acronym for CN, but I can agree with this, since I myself assumed an announcements page when I first heard of this ironically. ╚PixDeVl╝ (Talk Contributions CentralAuth) 17:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I concur with Agent - "Community noticeboard" gives the impression that the page only exists to serve as an announcement medium for Miraheze when it also provides an area for the community to discuss propositions. Tali64³ (talk | contributions) 17:27, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Just want to clarify, this is about the global Community portal, and not the (local) Meta:Community portal that this discussion is currently taking place on? MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 17:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Correct. ╚PixDeVl╝ (Talk Contributions CentralAuth) 17:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I also support the idea as helping users is different than discussions about community matters, which aren't always strictly RfCs. I'd probably still continue to encourage users to ask questions on Discord/IRC though as usually there's more users around there to help out and quicker responses. Reception123 (talk) (C) 17:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Harej, yes, I like the idea of using community noticeboard for community discussions, though relevant talk pages to companion pages can be used for specific changes to the procedures and logistics of existing policies. As for creating a separate "help desk" page, personally, I think users are best served getting help on a relevant noticeboard for stewards, Meta administrators, and so forth (where that makes sense). If it's just general help with the wiki or administration on one's own wiki, I think IRC and Discord are where users are best served. I'm reluctant to support creating yet another location for users to ask such questions, as Meta Wiki already has enough noticeboards, it's difficult for new users to orient themselves as to which one to use. I would note we do have the {{help me}} template where users can ask a question on their own user talk page, preceded by that template, and it'll add their user talk page to a monitoring category. Patrollers, administrators, and such monitoring that category, or on IRC, can respond in turn and close it once resolved. It helps to reduce the clutter on centralized boards. Doug (talk) 23:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have drafted Requests for Comment/Split the Community Portal. Please share any further thoughts if you have any. Harej (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Harej: Splitting it might be a better idea, seeing as it will likely reduce the backlogs going forward. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

A genuine question about translation[edit source]

Sorry to ask but I want to know about who translates the pages, I saw that you have most of the pages translated into several languages and I think that's great!! Of course, who translates can be several people however I wanted to contribute in a way, I really wanted to help translate the pages from English to Portuguese from Brazil. If you can explain to me how this works I would be grateful and happy to help and volunteer with the translation In my free time. Crumbshoney (talk) 03:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi there! Thank you so much for showing interest in helping out(as a native pt-BR speaker myself, though certainly not a good one). Our policies about translators are mainly on Meta:Translators. I'd suggest going there, giving a good read of the instructions and guidelines(also, since I'm not sure the page includes it, here's a nice little example of how the extension we use for translation works- hope that helps!). After that, head on over to the Administrator's noticeboard and submit a request labeled, say "Crumbshoney (Translator)". Once that's done, I'd be thrilled to grant you the translation rights for the 15 trial period, and assuming all is well, I'd be happy to extend it to indefinite.
Feel free to read through and file this whenever is most convenient for you, and if you have any questions or concerns at all, please, feel free to just ask! Thank you for your willingness to help out the project, and I look forward to your contributions.
Have an awesome day! ╚PixDeVl╝ (Talk Contributions CentralAuth) 03:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Don't worry! I was reading the pages, the example you gave and so on. I think something that caught my attention the most was the extension that you guys use to translate, I took a look and it looks great I have to say! I understood how it works in general, however, what really caught me was the "tvars", I understood the concept that is to mark where you should not translate to your language. But well, after rereading I really understood this and also how this all works, the requirements and other things. Anyway! I'm still a little undecided, and yes I really want to help translate but I'll think about it for a little before submitting a request but thank you very much, have a awesome day too!! Crumbshoney (talk) 01:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Miraheze is a pity![edit source]

Sometimes Miraheze can be a pity. Requested Miraheze wikis take about 1-2 days to process. But my wiki request #50770 declined today, with the reason by @Reception123, with the following reason:

You have requested 29 wikis in the past. Unless you can convince us with strong arguments that this wiki will succeed and be different, there must be a presumption against approving this.

In Fandom the process is much easier and simpler, and no need to wait to get wikis approved or declined, even if an Fandom user already have dozans or even hundreds of wikis.

Beside Fandom, what are the other free wiki farms? Silicona (talk) 12:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

I understand your frustration but I also think it has to be understandable that a free wiki farm such as us cannot accept a user requesting an indefinite amount of wikis with no explanation for their necessity. I don't think there is any other free wiki farm resembling us that allows that. I also doubt that the vast majority of users have dozens of wikis as it's just a reality that unless there's specific circumstances a single user isn't physically able to manage that many wikis. Reception123 (talk) (C) 15:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
What a tragedy!
That would be what happens if we let users create these so-called "dozans [sic] or even hundreds of wikis". Understand that we aren't unreasonably stringy just because. It all boils down to resources and time. If we had even a fraction of Fandom's budget or staff, we'd have automatic wiki creations because we're drowning in money but we're far from that. We've reached 10,000 wikis and that puts a very deep strain on the servers. We're already seeing resource exhuastion because in one year, we doubled our wiki count. If we let anyone (not just you) create "dozans" of wikis then we'll reach a catastrophic state and neither you nor any other wikis would be pleased.
Do you donate to Miraheze enough to cover a salary? If not, it is unreasonable to be mad about the wiki creation time. Instead, you should be understanding and understanding about the fact that 29 wikis is absolutely crazy. Very few users reach your level. How many of those wikis have been successful in the end? How many of those have a steady user, editor, and viewer base? If they don't then perhaps reconsider how often you request wikis and maybe draft them out in an incubator before requesting a new wiki. Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
another option is to self host Cocopuff2018 (talk) 16:08, 28 October 2024 (UTC)Reply