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Added ability to block emails and echo notifications from certain users

Hi. I just wanted to let people know that recently, the ability to block emails and block Echo notifications from users of your choosing has been enabled in Miraheze (see phab:T10684).

This is all done through your preferences page. To apply these settings globally (on all wikis), use Special:GlobalPreferences.

To block emails: Go to the "User profile" tab, and add usernames to the "Prohibit these users from emailing me" option, at the "Email options" tab.

To block notifications: Go to the "Notifications" tab and scroll down to the "Muted users" section. Then add usernames to the "Do not display notifications from these users" option. OrangeStar (talk) 16:26, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Images and files not loading correctly

I took a week-long break from editing my wiki, and when I logged back in to start editing again none of the files and images were loading correctly. The same thing is happening in different browsers and on different devices. I tried to fix it myself but I have no idea what to do. Any help with fixing this will be appreciated and thanks for any info in advance. Effect-kun (talk) 15:54, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

We are aware. See Tech:SRE noticeboard for more info. Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you everyone for the low-down on the image load issue. I cam here to see what was up since it was occurring on my wikis as well. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 23:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
I've seen the same thing, and I was shocked. There could be some kind of image outage. Spencers (Hello) 18:00, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Swift (Miraheze's file system) is currently down due to a disk failure. SRE is working on bringing it back up. Tali64³ (talk) 18:01, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for that information, as I thought it was just a problem on my wiki. Effect-kun (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Image displaying and uploading issues???

Hey, it's been a while. Is anybody having any problems with images lately?? because I have been on every single Miraheze wiki, and it's unable to display any images, and whenever I try to upload one, I get:

"Could not create directory "mwstore://miraheze-swift/local-public/c/c0"."

Seriously, what's going on??? ManiacACS (talk) 08:13, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Not an administrator here, but it's a known issue right now with Cloud11 and Swift. You can see the relevant section on the SRE noticeboard for more information. Hope this helps any. Hypercane (talk) 08:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
P.S. I moved this topic from the Administrators' noticeboard to here since this seems to be a better place for it. Hypercane (talk) 08:31, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Oh right. This has to be a very unfortunate development, seeing as I thought it was something wrong with Altcyclopedia or something. ManiacACS (talk) 08:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Again, same issue as before per this forum. This is a website-wide issue that doesn't even involve the admins, but the developers. They could fix the problem if they're really careful not to make any worse issues. Spencers (Hello) 10:31, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
Yes. This is sitewide, since when I tried to upload files on the AudioVisual Identity Database, it didn't go through. No images load, likely because they turned off Swift to do repairs. Prior to this there was a faulty SSD. I think they are replacing the SSD and transferring the images so they don't get erased. jrStudios (talk) 12:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
The only server affected is the swiftac* server which directs traffic. Image files are fine.

Is it possible to have sidebars collapsed by default on mobile only in Vector 2022?

When the sidebar is uncollapsed on mobile, it opens at the top of the small screen and can fill up almost the entire screen, not letting visitors even notice the actual content. I like having the sidebar uncollapsed and viewable on desktop where there is more real estate, but it would be nice to have it collapsed by default on mobile.

I've tried researching this issue for several hours, but have hit some dead ends. Perhaps I am searching for it wrong, but I can't seem to find it. The best info I have found are this site and this one, but neither really help me as a self-taught mediawiki user.

If it's not possible to collapse by default on mobile only, is it possible to collapse by default on both? I'd prefer only mobile, but both would do the trick too.

Thank you! ParentRatings (talk) 17:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Create an abuse filter to block a specific username string

Hello, I am trying to create and abuse filter to block usernames containing "THE REAL" or "emium". I also want this filter to only apply to non-bureaucrat users. I have came up with this:

(action == "createaccount") & !("bureaucrat" in user_groups) & (user_name contains "emium")


But it doesn't seem to work no matter what I do. Can someone help? Globe (talk) 13:26, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

You're using the wrong variable; accountname is the correct variable for checking user names during account creation. Tali64³ (talk) 20:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Change wiki, so that users can't edit articles, but can use talk pages

Make the wiki that you can't edit articles, but you can use talk pages. Patitocafe 00:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

You could protect all of the articles to Administrator only editing, and just not protect the talk pages. Globe (talk) 10:39, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
A somewhat more elegant alternative: Change all content namespaces to require 'editprotected' access through Special:ManageWiki/namespaces on your wiki. You don't need to change the interface namespace. Leave talk namespaces as is. The result is automatic protection of all articles (and stuff that affects them ie templates or other spaces like help) but people can talk as they wish. --Raidarr (talk) 23:08, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you! Patitocafe 21:14, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

MediaWikiChat and WikiForum doesn't work on zhtranswiki

Special:Chat shows no chat log, and Special:WikiForum does not exist. 沈澄心 (talk) 09:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Your wiki is private and we can't see anything, basically. But as general advice - are you sure the corresponding extensions are enabled? If your wiki was down during November server incident, it might worth to try disabling and enabling them again. KatozzKita (talk) 09:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
I tried but it doesn't work. 沈澄心 (talk) 10:13, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
These extensions are now disabled on zhtranswiki. 沈澄心 (talk) 11:29, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
WikiForum was disabled for security as I recall. MediaWikiChat should still work though, please report if the issue is persisting. --Raidarr (talk) 09:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Banned from uploading files??

Noticed that images are back on the Miraheze network, but for some reason, I'm unable to upload and overwrite images! All it says is:

"You do not have permission to upload this file, for the following reason:

The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Administrators, Users."

But I am one, and I founded that Altcyclopedia Wiki? Is it something I've done, or something else entirely?? ManiacACS (talk) 06:31, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Miraheze volunteers have recovered the images, but some extra works are still needed to enable uploading again. You just need to wait for another while. --JerryHan3 (T·C·P) 07:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
@ManiacACS: Have you refresh your browser? I have full services restored including Upload file in the sidebar which was missing yesterday - PercyUK (talk) 09:17, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Templates cause wikitext to be damaged

After using my {{Templink}} template the remaining text is in a <pre> tag. How can I fix this? Example: https://tutorials.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Nominations/Speedy_deletion TYLERMAGEE ( Access User Page | Access Talk ) 11:01, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

@TylerMagee: the template had a trailing space that I've removed. Should be good now! --Raidarr (talk) 09:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 Fixed, thank you! TYLERMAGEE ( Access User Page | Access Talk ) 07:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Notification of new user account

I recently needed to take my Wiki private, but I want to know if there is a way I can be notified when someone seeks to create a new account on my wiki, so I can review and/or the account and grant them membership to the private wiki. Does this functionality exist? If so how do I go about enabling it and/or using it? – Mitchell Gore (talk) 00:39, 17 April 2023 (UTC) Mitchell Gore (talk) 00:39, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Local roles

I'm having trouble assigning myself roles On my own Wiki Look at your ceiling 01:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC) Look at your ceiling 01:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

You'll have to elaborate, you seem to have given yourself more than enough roles (some overlapping each other completely) here. Was there something other than this you wanted to do specifically? --Raidarr (talk) 08:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Yeah I created a role and tried to assign it to myself Look at your ceiling 15:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Cross-posting my answer from steward's noticeboard, It sounds like you need to set up who can grant the custom roles. Tp give those rights to a role you already have, navigate the Special:ManageWiki/permissions page for your wiki and select the role that should be able to grant your custom roles. Switch to the 'Group Assignments' tab, and ensure that the 'can add to others' box is checked for each of the custom roles you want to be able to grant. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 20:05, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
I tried it and it doesn't work Look at your ceiling 20:34, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Checking out your wiki, it looks like what you did was give the Local_Steward group the ability to add and remove the Bureaucrat role, not the other way around. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 00:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

New 2FA method available: WebAuthn

Just letting everyone know that Extension:WebAuthn has been added to all wikis as an alternative 2FA method (phab:T10700). Instead of codes on an authenticator app, this method relies on hardware-based authenticators, for example USB security keys. I'd also like to note that unlike other websites such as GitHub you can only have either TOTP or WebAuthn enabled, you can't have both at the same time. You can change your 2FA method at Special:Preferences. OrangeStar (talk) 16:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Sporadic image load issues

The other day it seams that the server/image issue were resolved, and for a brief moment, all the images were loading once again (as well as my custom web fonts I have upload to my wiki loading properly). But now I am having some limited image load issues (for instance my site logo is now missing entirely (not even a broken image link icon) and my custom fonts are back to not loading. Is this still a result fo the server/image issue not being full resolved? Or is this some other new issue? – Mitchell Gore (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Mitchell Gore (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Managed to fix the issue. It had to do with my changing the wiki to a private wiki the other day, which broke all the static url paths that previously worked fine for my uploaded custom web font files and the site logo. After changing the wiki to a private one, apparently those URL paths were no longer valid, so I had to go to each of the webfont and site logo file pages, and copy the new URL path for the file assets and then paste them into the css page (for the web fonts) and the Special/ManageWiki/Settings page for the site logo. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 01:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Making Extension:NewSignupPage global

Would there be any objections to making mw:Extension:NewSignupPage a global extension (i.e. hardcoded in to the software, not opt-outable in ManageWiki). This extension requires users to check the box saying that they agree to the TOU and Privacy Policy before creating a new account. Will anyone actually read all of that? Probably not. But, if we require users to acknowledge both policies, and then they breach them, it would completely absolve the stewards/sysadmins of any wrongdoing or even allegation of wrongdoing when issuing blocks or bans for such breaches ("You explicitly agreed to follow these policies when you created your account. If you didn't actually read them it's your own fault".) The extension does come with a bypass right, which can allow users to get around the checkbox requirement, IMO this right should be assigned to nobody (and honestly should be blacklisted) so that everyone must acknowledge the TOU before signing up.

If there is consensus for this, I could submit the patch myself once I get back into my GitHub account (I'm currently locked out of it because I changed email providers). – AmandaCath (talk) 15:41, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

This seems reasonable to me. A very minor change in practice, but not harmful and I see the benefit as long as there aren't technical drawbacks I'm missing. --Raidarr (talk) 01:08, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Seeing how there was no opposition in several days, I've created the code patch today, but I'm not marking it as "ready" just yet in case there are other comments. – AmandaCath (talk) 19:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Upload a .xlsx .docx .txt .htm .html ecc... file

I would like to know if is possible and how to upload file different fron the allowed file extensions.

I dont wont publish any video or superheavy files, just upload .xlsx .docx .txt .htm .html ecc... files

Many thanks Gianalberto.chini (talk) 12:07, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

You can add additional extensions as permitted for upload on a wiki by going to Additional Settings >> Media, and updating the section titled 'file extensions'. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 17:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

How to enable side preview?

I would like to enable the small preview button on the top right of WikiEditor on my wiki:

How can I do this? TYLERMAGEE ( Access User Page | Access Talk ) 09:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Found it, it was hidden but I accessed the WikiEditor extension settings. Open Special:ManageWiki/settings and check the Editing tab. Turned on the Realtime Preview beta feature. TYLERMAGEE ( Access User Page | Access Talk ) 15:14, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

How do i use Quiz extension?

I do not know how to use the Quiz extension on Miraheze. I need it for my wiki since my wiki heavily depends on quizzes, but i have no clue how to use them. Can someone give me an explanation on how to add questions, mark answers as correct or incorrect, and any other features. Zhongwen (talk) 18:41, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

You must use the manage extensions tab on your wiki to install the social profile and quiz game extension. More information here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuizGame. Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 14:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Bug for DISPLAYTITLE and ShortDescription

Hi, I have a bug regarding DISPLAYTITLE and ShortDescription.

This is because the display title is not displayed and the short description is not displayed either. The template concerned:

https://bda.miraheze.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Titre ValRaimond (talk) 10:57, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry, it's not a bug; I get this all the time. The forced category says that it has an "ignored display title". That is because for some reason pages will only do DisplyTitle if the title matches the page name. Although I don't know how to fix it, I hope this helps! Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 16:47, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Actually on bda.miraheze.org, I use numbers as a page name and force a display name...ValRaimond (talk) 16:51, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Well, I don't know what to do then. Try not using numbers for page names? Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 16:56, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Except I use numbers to use the same page name for multiple pages...ValRaimond (talk) 17:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Well, then I don't know what to do. I hope someone else can help you! Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 17:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks you!ValRaimond (talk) 17:06, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Changing the interwiki due to errors for companyball wiki

(1) https://companyballwiki.miraheze.org

Prefix URL Forward Transclude
tv5mondeplus https://www.tv5mondeplus.com/en/details/vod/$1/ No No

★Commander Xiaochan⚡ (Talk to me for fun) 03:14, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

@Hyebun This is  Done --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA  15:45, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

DiscussionTools

This may seem like a stupid question, but I can't figure it out for the life of me.

On landarwiki, I enabled the DiscussionTools extension because I would like to use the reply tool, however I do not like the new design with the additional information and whitespace and lack of brackets. I cannot find any documentation on how to use the old design. For example: the 'old design' is used on this page. Please help. Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 23:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

No link in a navigation (Extension:StructuredNavigation)

How do I remove links that appear in navigation (Extension:StructuredNavigation)? ValRaimond (talk) 19:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Which wiki is this regarding? If you're referring to bda.miraheze.org, I don't see the StructuredNavigation extension enabled on that wiki, if it were, it would appear in bda.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Version. Are you perhaps referring to the regular MediaWiki navigation, located at: bda.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar? If so, then this page may be helpful. | -- FrozenPlum 22:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
It is indeed bda.miraheze.org, I had activated it to test but since the links appear while I do not want them to appear...
ValRaimond (talk) 07:56, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Infobox Help

How do you move text next to an infobox rather than on top of it? I'm typing long paragraphs of text and it's moving the infobox down the screen Danny0800 (talk) 21:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

@Danny080: I have closed the infobox which should fix the problem - PercyUK (talk) 22:18, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
a) Infobox should have float: right; in its CSS to appear on the right side of the page and let other nearby content to appear on the left from it
b) Write text after infobox and it'll format beside it - if CSS is correct per a)
If you are aiming for what Wikipedia has - first paragraph appears before infobox in mobile version, that's achieved only by their overcomplicated infoboxes; I achieved similar effect w/ other infobox types but it requires some additional hoops in both template and styling.
KatozzKita (talk) 10:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Online Users

Hello! Is there any way you could see the users that are online? Not the active users that have made edits in the most recent days. (depending on Manage Wiki settings) But the users that are currently online, who have the Miraheze Wiki pulled up? Oh, and also not with Manage Wiki, because I am not a bureaucrat on the Wiki. Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 12:55, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

There is not, no. Agent Isai Talk to me! 13:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
oh, okay. Thanks for letting me know. Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 17:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Deletion Request: Terrapedia (terrapedia.miraheze.org)

I do not know why, but after reseting Terrapedia (my wiki) it doesn't work anymore, so i decided that i want to delete it (please take place that i am a beginner, thanks) Gabe the cat (talk) 06:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Wiki deletion requests should be made on Stewards' noticeboard, however the fact that you get such error isn't okay and should be investigated (either here or on Phabricator; don't delete your post here).
How the reset was done exactly tho, by Miraheze steward/admin?
KatozzKita (talk) 10:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
It was made by Phabricator, i realized that there wasn't any moblie skins anymore, so i decided to restart the whole wiki, it doesn't require further explanation Gabe the cat (talk) 13:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
This should be reported through Phabricator along with whatever you were doing to result in this. A Steward could action it, but a steward cannot drop a database to allow you to recreate it despite deleting it unless they are also an SRE member and able to troubleshoot how the wiki ended up like this, so it would be simpler just to go through SRE in the first place. --Raidarr (talk) 12:15, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Issue updating thumbnails

I've noticed this issue recently. Replacing an image does not change its thumbnail.

An example can be seen in this page. Look at the cover of Earthworm Jim 2 - originally it was the EU release (blue border), I tried to replace it with the USA release (red border), but the thumbnail remained the blue one. Purging the page's cache and browser cache made no difference. I even deleted the image entirely and reuploaded it, but no dice, it's still blue. But if I edit the page to change the thumbnail's size, it will be correctly created based on the red cover.

However, check this page and look at the screenshot for Spolous, which I added yesterday: I uploaded it, then replaced it, and the thumbnail updated just fine. So my impression is that this issue affects images that were first uploaded prior to the recent image outage. Stormwatch (talk) 02:24, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Infobox alignment problem

Hello,

I have a problem with the infoboxes in my wiki: they line up on the left and the paragraphs of normal text don't fit next to the infobox, but appear below it. I do have the "float: right" element on the css page. I also tried to include it directly in the infobox, without success. Is there a solution to this problem? L'Anonyme16 (talk) 12:41, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

@Anonyme16: As your wiki is private the error is hidden from me. Is it possible to add me as a member so I can locate the error
https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ#Private_wikis
- PercyUK (talk) 13:22, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
@PercyUK: Sure, but your account doesn't appear when I enter your username on the page Special:UserRights. (Just in case, the wiki concerned is lenigme.miraheze.org) --L'Anonyme16 (talk) 13:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
Done! The wiki is in French, I hope it won't be a problem. L'Anonyme16 (talk) 13:39, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
@Anonyme16:
short answer: It is created from a number of subtemplates and modules and impossible to locate which is missing long answer: As with another French wiki, I created a simplified infobox that does the same job. I don't have edit rights to MediaWiki:Common.css so can you add the box into it which adds the mask image on the right side of nom
/* Infobox Personnage (fiction) */
.masks {
    background: transparent url('https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Picto_infobox_masks.png') no-repeat scroll right top;
}
@PercyUK: Thanks a lot for your help! --L'Anonyme16 (talk) 19:04, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Reception Wikis

As I haven't been here for long, does anyone know is going on with Reception Wikis and what the community consensus on them currently is?

Thanks and Kind Regards Joey717 (talk) 23:42, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

 Non-steward comment: @Joey717 My guess is that Reception wikis were shut down by community voting (RfC) due to chaos. I'm not too sure about this answer either, let me tag @NotAracham, maybe he can answer seriously. Best Regards Hey Türkiye Message? 18:20, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
All Qualitipedia wikis were closed and are no longer allowed back and new reception wikis can't be created, but there's still a few reception wikis hosted on here not associated by name but with the same community. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 18:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you very much information @Raichu's Endless Nights 🙂 Hey Türkiye Message? 18:44, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Not much to add beyond Raichu's comments. (btw, thanks for tackling this!)
The Request for Comments that led to a permanent topic ban on new reception wikis can be found here if you're interested in the historical context. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 18:59, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
@HeyTürkiye:, @NotAracham:, and @Raichu's Endless Nights: Thanks for the information! While I do personally agree with some (but not all) things posted on the reception wikis, I do agree that Miraheze is not the place for masses of them. It's sad how they've ruined this place's reputation.
Fortunately, I had a wiki here (which was deleted on request) before they arrived by the masses.
Kind Regards, Joey Pelobello (Joey717 (talk) 22:10, 8 May 2023 (UTC))
 Off-topic comment @Joey717 I would appreciate it if you did not share your name and surname in a public environment, because it can even be used as a threat material in the future. Still, if you say that I would like to address my respect with my name, okay, I respect it, but you should be careful. Hey Türkiye Message? 13:02, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
I will add that there is no policy against sharing your real name. It isn't preferred or not preferred, just a personal preference for each and every user. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 03:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Exactly what is a "reception wiki"? The discussion doesn't say (and the posted results say "it's[sic] implementation will be halted until a discussion finalizes, in a community venue, about what a 'reception wiki' constitutes"), although the discussion there seems to indicate that some of their users appear to think the number of editors is more important than the wiki content. --Robkelk (talk) 14:01, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
The assumption in that RfC was that a definition would be quickly forthcoming and agreed-upon. Multiple attempts to reach consensus failed, so prohibition went into effect under general guidance that has become de-facto permanent for lack of a better definition. At a high level, reception wikis intend to document the public reception of certain forms of (media/games/art/events/people's actions) and what makes those documented things good or bad, however there's further nuance beyond that as each one is its own kind of thing.
A reception wiki may have some but not all of the shared attributes that resulted in a topic ban, but they all have at least one. Raidarr's essay on the matter was instrumental in forming the guidance (and that guidance has evolved a bit since), here are some non-comprehensive example criteria used by WCs and other functionaries in making that determination:
  • Binary (or polarized) topic scope
    • e.g. "Awesome Games", "Terrible Youtubers", "Best Rollercoasters"
    • Some wikis attempted to subvert this by including both extremes, but this doesn't change their underlying intent
  • Format:
    • Articles frequently contain bullet-point rant-lists on 'why it's good' or 'why it's bad'
      • Lists contain little to no external sourcing, where relevant
      • Bulleted items are largely subjective, not third-party objective
      • Little to no attempt is made to explain how these items connect
    • Articles also usually contain a blurb borrowed entirely from Wikipedia or similar to describe the thing, followed by trivia or a section on Reception that tries to tie together the rant-list with news articles to form a cohesive review.
    • Article is largely treated like a blog post, with the originator closely guarding original tone and slant on future edits from others.
  • Community Behavior
    • Frequent edit-warring on high-traffic pages, especially around notable figures like celebrities
    • Heated debates on article discussion pages with little to no substatantive arguments made
    • Regular doxxing/harrassment campaigns requiring global functionary intervention
  • Management
    • Founder/Owner treated as 'ruler', elevated above other contributors with unquestioning support... or else.
    • Arbitrary decision-making by administrative members without community input
    • A pattern of petty block reasons, usually by multiple administrative members
    • A pattern of ambiguous/poorly-written RfCs that contribute to confusing/contradictory rules for wiki operation and contribution, OR a confusing/contradictory ruleset established by wiki administration, especially one that regularly changes.
    • A public 'name and shame' wall to catalogue users who have angered the wiki's leadership.
No one point above is sufficient by itself to brand something as "Reception", but the listed examples help form a pattern of behavior that can be used to positively identify a reception wiki when multiple criteria are met. Hope this helps clarify! --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 16:04, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
It does help, thank you. (And I was worried that All The Tropes might have been considered a reception wiki - we do allow subjective entries and have sections for "good" and "bad" works - until I read the "Community Behavior" and "Management" sections. If one can't at least pretend to be a grownup and respect other people's opinions, one will probably be uncomfortable on ATT.) Robkelk (talk) 16:36, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Also worth knowing: the topic ban is a go-forward ban on new creations and wouldn't impact existing reception wikis (provided they remain in good standing w/r/t content and conduct policies). ATT may resemble in certain aspects of content but absolutely would not be branded as 'reception' by quality of contents or user behavior.
As you can pretty well see in the examples, the concern around the genre definitely skews more behavioral than anything else. :) --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 17:09, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Short URL deletion

How can I delete /m/99Z on mh:fyutxe? Also why can I not create pages in a particular namespace containing lowercase initial letters? Dján Déú (talk) 22:54, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Add "https://www.niwanetwork.org" to local interwiki prefix

My wiki (obeymewiki.com) would like the site "www.niwanetwork.org" to be added to the local interwiki prefix please.

Website: https://niwanetwork.org/$1

Prefix: niwa

Forwarding or Transclusion: no Clarasiir 19:45, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

This is  Done, thanks.
--NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 14:38, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Custom domain removal

I want to remove a custom domain for a wiki.

Which is the appropriate template to use on Phabricator? If there are no existing templates, which tags should I use for the ticket? What information do I have to provide?

Thank you. Verycutecat (talk) 10:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

@Verycutecat: Yes, a Phabricator request would be best. You can just plainly state "Please remove the custom domain for <URL>." or you can reply to this thread with the wiki you need the custom domain removed for and I'll process it. Agent Isai Talk to me! 03:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

I have doubts about the creation of wikis in meta.miraheze.org

Hello, I have doubts about the creation of wikis in meta.miraheze.org. The truth is that I don't know many things about the meta.miraheze.org platform, I would love to know how this platform works, I am planning to create a second wiki called Mejores Amigos Wiki in Spanish, since it is a private project belonging to Best Friends Project.

I would like to know more about meta.miraheze.org and how it works, I don't see a "What Meta.miraheze is not" policy or something like that. Lomeno 24 • (Contact me here • Friend 😊) 03:17, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

@Lomeno 24: meta.miraheze.org is just a wiki. Miraheze is the name of the entire service. If you're wondering what type of wikis are allowed on Miraheze, please read the Content Policy. Agent Isai Talk to me! 03:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Okay, thanks--Lomeno 24 • (Contact me here • Friend 😊) 03:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
@Agent Isai: I have read it carefully, I completely agree, I am aware of the consequences of making a serious mistake, I will try to follow miraheze's guidelines so as not to have problems in the future.--Lomeno 24 • (Contact me here • Friend 😊) 04:04, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Help with importing a dump file

Hello, I am trying to import a dump file from a Fandom wiki on my wiki Poofesure Wiki, but it wants the interwiki prefix, and I don't know what that is. I also tried using wikia:poofesure as the interwiki prefix, and there were no comments about that, but they said that the document was empty. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 00:30, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Just put a space there. It'll work either way. Tali64³ (talk) 19:38, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Put a space where? Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 22:14, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
In the interwiki prefix field. I probably should've been more specific. Tali64³ (talk) 22:19, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
It still says it's empty. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 22:36, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Hmm...the last time I tried that, it imported with no issues. Maybe it's something to do with a new MediaWiki update, but I don't see anything related to that on MediaWiki.org's home page. Tali64³ (talk) 23:31, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
@Tali64³: What do I do now? Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 10:07, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
I don't know, actually. Try asking your question on the Miraheze Discord server (to post links on the server, you need to have direct messages enabled and type /auth in any channel you're able to post in; Wiki-Bot will DM you and provide you a link to click on to authenticate your Discord account to your Miraheze account); you may get a faster response there. Tali64³ (talk) 14:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
If at all possible I might suggest acquiring a hard copy of the fandom wiki dump to your machine and then submitting it to Special:RequestImportDump if the usual Import feature is giving trouble at that point. I haven't heard success stories trying to import directly from Fandom. --Raidarr (talk) 22:27, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
@Raidarr: How do I do that? Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 20:16, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
On Fandom: Help:Database download --Raidarr (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

tnwgwiki，My wiki database is locked.administrators:The primary database server is running in read-only mode.

tnwgwiki，My wiki database is locked.administrators:The primary database server is running in read-only mode. Yaiseson (talk) 02:55, 16 May 2023 (UTC)yaiseson

Infobox template creation

Hello! I tried following the instructions for the creation of an Infobox template on my own through this guideline: HERE. However, as I try to get a good grasp of the other things necessary for the creation of a subsidiary Infobox, I end up having trouble as it didn't appear anything like the one that I've copied as. So I am lost with how I should proceed on then. Thanks. 23meraki (talk) 11:25, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Translations on miraheze.org

Where are the translations of miraheze.org stored? There are many grammatical errors in the Vietnamese translation (it is also very unnatural) and I simply couldn't leave it be. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 04:59, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

When trying to create this section with DiscussionTools it prompted me for a CAPTCHA answer (an <input>) without showing me the CAPTCHA itself (which turns out to be a photo-based one of choosing foxes from a bunch of animals). This sounds like a bug, no? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 05:05, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
I'm confused. Could you specify the question you are trying to ask? Miraheze.org is a corporate page, not a wiki. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 05:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
@BrandonWM: I know that it's not a wiki, but as a wiki user I feel an urge of improving it. Can I edit the translations? If yes, how? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 05:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Ah. No, you are not able to edit the translations. It's a corporate website. In fact, I'm not sure if it's even translated by Miraheze, it might just be by whatever search engine you use (ie. Google Translate). BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 05:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Never mind. I found a link at the footer that leads to translatewiki. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 05:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Wiki

I'm thinking about recreating Callipedia on Miraheze. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 01:07, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Callipedia was deleted nearly a year ago for copyright violations (log action). Any new requests for a general encyclopedia-style wiki will not be accepted per the Content Policy clause regarding duplicate wikis. Tali64³ (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

$wgRestrictionLevels

Hello. I’m Admin of one wiki, and I want to set $wgRestrictionLevels at ManageWiki. But option to set it does not appear. How can I set that option? If I can’t set, why I can’t do that? IAX86 (talk) 12:21, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi. You are correct that it is not found on ManageWiki. It has been disabled because it apparently didn't work as expected. Phabricator has more information and instructions on how to request it for your wiki. --Anton (talk) 14:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Clarification - Formalizing Interwiki Requester Eligibility

Per RfC Policy, I'm opening this single-issue Feedback Request on the CN to formally update the Interwiki Policy page and add the already-in-use eligibility requirements to request addition of a new interwiki entry.

Proposal 1: Codifying Eligibility for Interwiki Requests

Add the following eligibility criteria to the Additions section of the Interwiki policy page: 

A user must meet one of the following criteria to submit Interwiki addition/removal requests:
*Have the Bureaucrat role (or equivalent) on the wiki for which the request is submitted
*Have public written permission from a Bureaucrat on the wiki (for instance, on a user talk page) to submit interwiki requests
*Have authorization to make the request via local policy (e.g. a wiki establishes a local policy authorizing administrators on the wiki to make interwiki requests)
*Have community consensus on specific additions/removals, e.g. by poll or discussion on the wiki for which the request is submitted

Rationale: This is already the current procedure followed by those with IW access and seeks to make it publicly available. Failure of this vote will not change eligibility criteria, but community assent is needed before any amendment of policy pages. NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 18:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Support

  1.  Support as proposer --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 18:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
  2.  Strongest support This offer can be prevented by Discord or IRC or fraud/informality on noticeboards. I support you most strongly. It is useful to apply. Hey Türkiye Message? 11:27, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
  3.  Support This is already done as a matter of custom. --1108-Kiju/Talk 11:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
  4.  Support I think that it is fair for bureaucrats to make these decisions. I take this opportunity to nevertheless re-iterate my opposition to the group of interwiki administrator and instead allowing bureaucrats to do this themselves. --DeeM28 (talk) 14:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
  5.  Support This is currently the status quo. Although, it is nowhere in the interwiki page.--  Joseph  TB  CT  CA  05:29, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
  6.  Support. It's time to put what we do into actual policy/writing. Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 16:29, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Abstain

Oppose

Comments

It was helpfully pointed out by Agent Isai in a side conversation that these criteria already exist on the Interwiki administrators page, identically though indirectly, as follows: 

Global interwiki administrators should not add or alter interwiki prefixes on wikis where they do not hold bureaucrat rights, unless local bureaucrats or the local community requests it, or where they have otherwise been provided with a local authorization, ratified by a local bureaucrat, to add interwiki prefixes on a discretionary basis.

Given that pre-existing basis, if Stewards feel this is sufficient I suggest they close this Feedback Request as invalid/unnecessary and integrate the proposed changes into the Interwiki page if deemed adequately phrased. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 19:37, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

NotAracham, would you be interested in modifying this proposal to state that one must have a bureaucrat's authorization to make such requests, or there must be a local policy in place delegating this responsibility to community members? I think it's way to bureaucratic to require a bureaucrat's approval just to add an interwiki prefix. I think any trusted sysop or established editor would do. As well, it's already a requirement to be a bureaucrat, or have the assent of a bureaucrat, to be elected as a local interwiki administrator. Dmehus (talk) 19:53, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
If there's a local policy which covers delegation of duties, that's fine in my view. My goal isn't to write new policy beyond already established norms in this case, and reading through the existing language on the Interwiki administrators page, this piece of language: 'otherwise provided with local authorization' appears to cover the instance you describe.
Per discussion w/ @Raidarr on discord, I'll tweak to match and notify existing FR voters accordingly. NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 21:06, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
@HeyTürkiye, @1108-Kiju, @DeeM28, providing a courtesy notification that proposal language has had minor amendments to allow for local policies to authorize other roles to request interwiki additions/removals. This was deemed necessary to be fully aligned with the policy codified on the Interwiki administrators page.
Please review and update your vote if no longer supported. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 21:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Add "https://de.wikipedia.org" to interwiki prefix

My wiki (wiki.mxlinuxusers.de) would like the site "de.wikipedia.org" to be added to the interwiki prefix please.

URL: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1

Prefix: wde

Forwarding or Transclusion: yes  Like w: for the english Wikipedia --Peter Littmann (talk) 22:28, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 22:57, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks --Peter Littmann (talk) 02:44, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Using wikipedia links in miraheze wiki

I would like to redirect a link to a Wikipedia page instead of copying the wiki page completely. LaneFrost00 (talk) 13:28, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

[[w:<Wikipedia page>|<displayed words>]] - PercyUK (talk) 14:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
Or something like {{wp|Page title|Optional display text}}, like my site and its Referata predecessors have long engaged in. --Routhwick (talk) 22:12, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
I use two templates: {{w1|Wikipedia page title}} and {{w2|Wikipedia page title|whatever title you want}}
For w1 the syntax is: [[w:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]
For w2 the synrax is: [[w:{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}]]
This works for me just fine. Borderman (Talk) 22:45, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Its to sad to say goodbye to Real Life Villains wiki forever

Goodbye forever, if one day that page is reborn again please call me, you know how to contact me, but well, it was funny helping the page, but its time to say goodbye, so goodbye forever and it was an honor to be in the real life villains wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oscargerardo (talk • contribs) 17:46, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Everyone else in the know on Miraheze knows what happened to Qualitipedia; even the MH team themselves would rather brush it off in the past and forget it completely. --Routhwick (talk) 22:09, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Real Life Villains Wiki was not associated with Qualitipedia; it was shut down due to Content Policy violations, not because its community supported closure. Tali64³ (talk) 16:09, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Cannot verify site in Google search console

How long does it usually take for the google search token to be noticed when added to the SEO section of "Manage this wiki's additional settings"? I thought if the token was added, and Google search console looks for the token, it would find it straight away.

I opted for "Domain" in the Google Search Console, generated the txt file (token) and added it to the SEO section on my site. Google says uing the "Domain" option requires DNS configuration from my Domain Name Provider, but I can't do this because the Doamin Name points to Miraheze's Name Servers. Google doesn't provide information for this process for users of wikifarms. I am attempting this for my newly created domain name - theenglishlakes.uk - without adding the https://

Anyway, I just get an error every time I try and verify:

Verification method:
Domain name provider

Failure reason:
We couldn't find your verification token in your domain's TXT records. Sometimes DNS changes can take a while to appear. Please wait a few hours, then reopen your property in Search Console. If verification fails again, try adding a different DNS TXT record.

I've had the same error for two days. What am I doing wrong, or does it take more time? A steer in the right direction would be most appreciated. Borderman (Talk) 22:28, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorted. I didn't include the token correctly. How do I go about requesting a Sitemap? Borderman (Talk) 10:44, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
This guide I wrote may be helpful for you, it covers all aspects you'll need to know for this, including sitemaps.
WikiSEO_-_Improving_Search_Ranking
--NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 20:52, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
@NotAracham Thank you for your assistance. If I had known this article existed I would have known exactly what to do. It is very informative and helped immensely, very much appreciated. This essay should have more visibility on Meta.
I already have WikiSEO installed but haven't used it - to be honest I don't really know how to use it. I would probably only use "keywords". Can they be included anywhere on the page? Borderman (Talk) 07:06, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Fun fact, the 'SEO' on that article is high enough that it's usually in the top google results for WikiSEO, especially when combined with the word 'Help' or 'Miraheze'. :D
I do eventually planning on moving it to a proper help namespace once I have additional documentation written out to make a broader 'new admin' guide, but that's a project that's been on backburner for ages.
I haven't used the keywords function much myself, but the WikiSEO main documentation has some helpful stuff there around keyword functions. Best of luck!
--NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 19:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Import question

Do I need an administrator to import a template for me? I request a few quote templates to be added to collegium.miraheze.org Template:Quote --Collectit (talk) 01:03, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

 Non Stewards/Administrator Comment If you tell us which templates to add to your wiki, the administrator @Collectit. will add them. You can also add templates yourself. However, if you want to import a template from another wiki (Fandom, etc.), you can import it from Export. If I have not helped you with this comment, please explain in detail what you want and we can help you better. The administrators will contact you. Hey Türkiye Message? 08:03, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
I was trying to use quotes in my article, to quote text. It seems I have to use a template to do that. How do I do that? Collectit (talk) 15:08, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
You can do it by creating the citation template or by copying the citation template from the English Wikipedia. @Collectit. (I wouldn't take too much of your copying, either.) --Hey Türkiye Message? 16:00, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
I'd note that "copying" the template wouldn't be in compliance with copyright, you would have to use Special:Export and then Special:Import on your Miraheze wiki in order to comply with attribution requirements. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:01, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Copy it to where? Collectit (talk) 06:04, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
@Collectit:, hi! I went to your wiki and checked the RecentChanges special page, and saw what article you were looking for.

Firstly, to answer your question literally, you are an admin on that same wiki you founded, so you can import templates from elsewhere as Reception suggested. You can check what accounts are administrator on your wiki by going to your wiki's "Special:ListAdmins" page, which for you is at mh:collegium:Special:ListAdmins.

To do that, you can go to your wiki and type "Special:Import" (as Reception said), which will lead you to mh:collegium:Special:Import. There are two options there: you can upload a file that contains data regarding the wiki pages you're importing, or you can tell Miraheze servers to contact a certain wiki website and download that wiki's pages to your wiki.
The second is easier, so, you can scroll down to the "Import from another wiki" section, select wikipedia as your "Source wiki", type Template:Quote in the "Source page" text field, and check the first two checkboxes. You may give a comment as to why you feel the need for it, if you want it to be recorded in your wiki's logs (mh:collegium:Special:Log/import), and then you click the big blue "Import" button.
If that fails, you can do the first method. Go to wikipedia:Special:Export and type "Template:Quote" in the "Add pages manually:" text box. Leave the first checkbox unchecked (to follow copyright law about attributing past authors), while having the latter two boxes checked. Then click "Submit" and go back to your wiki's Special:Import page, upload it, type "wikipedia:" for interwiki prefix, and click "Upload file".

But, I saw in the mh:collegium:Respect article you were working on. Please note that the syntax for Wikipedia's Quote template is {{Quote}}, not <quote>example text</quote>. —MLastCelebration (talk) 12:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. That's a lot of information for me to learn and try out. You gave a very good guide, it seems. Collectit (talk) 17:09, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘@Collection: For future reference, please ask questions on the Community noticeboard, not the Meta-Wiki Admins noticeboard. That noticeboard is only for questions to admins on this wiki, not for asking for help. Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Oh sorry about that. Collectit (talk) 21:47, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Marked as Closed on a Daily Basis

For the past week, every time that I access my specific wiki on MediaWiki Ash and Illusions Wiki, I've received a notice that the Wiki has been marked as closed due to a lack of edits and/or log actions.

I've continued to do updates to the wiki (in fact a number were done yesterday), but when I accessed it again today it was marked for closure. I've continued to remove the closer mark on the Special:ManageWiki page, however it continues to return. Is there a way to remove this permanently and/or stop this from occurring daily? Daemhain Wolf (talk) 02:48, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

I would advise you to research carefully when changing ManageWiki settings you're not sure of. On top of wiki permissions being a bit of a mess, you set $wgRCMaxAge to 1 which meant that Special:RecentChanges/the recentchanges table could not hold any records over 1 second ago and because ManageWiki uses those records to assess inactivity, it found no 'recent changes' and kept reclosing the wiki. I have reset the settings and manually rebuilt the recent changes table but please do be careful in the future. Agent Isai Talk to me! 03:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for the help Isai! I'm not even sure how I did this, but I'll be a lot more careful going forwards! Daemhain Wolf (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Some Image Files Suddenly Not Loading

Suddenly this afternoon, some (but not all) images that have been loaded onto my wiki are not loading.

As an example, when I click on the actual file image I get a:

File not found
Although this PHP script (/w/img_auth.php) exists, the file requested for output (mwstore://miraheze-swift/local-public/c/cf/Marric-alaga-01.png) does not.

Is this happening to others? and is the a return of one of the servers going like what happened several months ago? — Mitchell Gore (talk) 18:20, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Use BounceHandler to un-confirm e-mail addresses in error

Can Extension:BounceHandler be installed on Miraheze to un-confirm e-mail addresses in error? 沈澄心 (talk) 05:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Clarification - Formalizing Interwiki Requester Eligibility

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 relevant language will be added to the policy page
With 2.5 weeks since opening the feedback request, unanimous support, and confirmation that this already exists on a separate policy page, I'm closing this single-issue feedback request and adding the appropriate language to the relevant page.
--NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 14:42, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Per RfC Policy, I'm opening this single-issue Feedback Request on the CN to formally update the Interwiki Policy page and add the already-in-use eligibility requirements to request addition of a new interwiki entry.

Proposal 1: Codifying Eligibility for Interwiki Requests

Add the following eligibility criteria to the Additions section of the Interwiki policy page: 

A user must meet one of the following criteria to submit Interwiki addition/removal requests:
*Have the Bureaucrat role (or equivalent) on the wiki for which the request is submitted
*Have public written permission from a Bureaucrat on the wiki (for instance, on a user talk page) to submit interwiki requests
*Have authorization to make the request via local policy (e.g. a wiki establishes a local policy authorizing administrators on the wiki to make interwiki requests)
*Have community consensus on specific additions/removals, e.g. by poll or discussion on the wiki for which the request is submitted

Rationale: This is already the current procedure followed by those with IW access and seeks to make it publicly available. Failure of this vote will not change eligibility criteria, but community assent is needed before any amendment of policy pages. NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 18:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Support

  1.  Support as proposer --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 18:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
  2.  Strongest support This offer can be prevented by Discord or IRC or fraud/informality on noticeboards. I support you most strongly. It is useful to apply. Hey Türkiye Message? 11:27, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
  3.  Support This is already done as a matter of custom. --1108-Kiju/Talk 11:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
  4.  Support I think that it is fair for bureaucrats to make these decisions. I take this opportunity to nevertheless re-iterate my opposition to the group of interwiki administrator and instead allowing bureaucrats to do this themselves. --DeeM28 (talk) 14:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
  5.  Support This is currently the status quo. Although, it is nowhere in the interwiki page.--  Joseph  TB  CT  CA  05:29, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
  6.  Support. It's time to put what we do into actual policy/writing. Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 16:29, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Abstain

Oppose

Comments

It was helpfully pointed out by Agent Isai in a side conversation that these criteria already exist on the Interwiki administrators page, identically though indirectly, as follows: 

Global interwiki administrators should not add or alter interwiki prefixes on wikis where they do not hold bureaucrat rights, unless local bureaucrats or the local community requests it, or where they have otherwise been provided with a local authorization, ratified by a local bureaucrat, to add interwiki prefixes on a discretionary basis.

Given that pre-existing basis, if Stewards feel this is sufficient I suggest they close this Feedback Request as invalid/unnecessary and integrate the proposed changes into the Interwiki page if deemed adequately phrased. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 19:37, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

NotAracham, would you be interested in modifying this proposal to state that one must have a bureaucrat's authorization to make such requests, or there must be a local policy in place delegating this responsibility to community members? I think it's way to bureaucratic to require a bureaucrat's approval just to add an interwiki prefix. I think any trusted sysop or established editor would do. As well, it's already a requirement to be a bureaucrat, or have the assent of a bureaucrat, to be elected as a local interwiki administrator. Dmehus (talk) 19:53, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
If there's a local policy which covers delegation of duties, that's fine in my view. My goal isn't to write new policy beyond already established norms in this case, and reading through the existing language on the Interwiki administrators page, this piece of language: 'otherwise provided with local authorization' appears to cover the instance you describe.
Per discussion w/ @Raidarr on discord, I'll tweak to match and notify existing FR voters accordingly. NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 21:06, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
@HeyTürkiye, @1108-Kiju, @DeeM28, providing a courtesy notification that proposal language has had minor amendments to allow for local policies to authorize other roles to request interwiki additions/removals. This was deemed necessary to be fully aligned with the policy codified on the Interwiki administrators page.
Please review and update your vote if no longer supported. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 21:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Why my logo does not appear?

Hi, I have put a logo on my wiki but the logo does not appear on the main page (and on all the pages there), let me know if I am using this page wrong (If this is misspelled it is because I used translator). - Un random

A link to your wiki would be helpful Lily talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 02:25, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Help getting hlist and navboxes working correctly

I'm not a bureaucrat or admin of this wiki (that'd be Robkelk), so I hope it's okay that I'm asking for help here – just don't want anyone else to get a headache on my behalf.

We're having issues with {{hlist}} and templates that call it, like navboxes, on Poser and Daz Free Resources Wiki. The template creates vertical bulleted lists rather than horizontal ones. I think the main issue is that TemplateStyles isn't enabled, and we're missing the styles.css for the hlist template, but I'm not very familiar with the inner workings of templates, so I'm not sure if I'm overlooking anything else. Is there someone who's more familiar with templates who could help out? Radiiant (talk) 17:14, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

The wiki's URL is poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org – I tried to add a link in my original post, but Miraheze wanted me to enter a CAPTCHA that wouldn't show up, so adding it in a follow-up comment. Radiiant (talk) 17:19, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Do you use Discord? Someone at the support channel may have the solution. Discord | #support | Miraheze
--- Imamy (talk) 14:59, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Recruitment/Vacancies

I know that SRE has been recruiting for new members for some time now, but I'm also of the opinion that new membership is needed in the community-related roles as well. We've already lost Radiarr, (partially?) lost OrangeStar, and now appear to be loosing Universal Omega as well (Special:Diff/337769). And apparently Agent has just resigned from Trust and Safety. While it was before my return to the project, I noticed that John and Southparkfan have also resigned from their respective roles. As a result the community definitely has several vacancies that should be filled, as we don't want to be in a situation where the project itself is growing faster than its volunteer base. So I would like to ask the community if there are any roles that it (collective) feels I could fulfill? In evaluating my experience feel free to refer to my previous activity pre-2020 as well. I'd like to do something to make sure that Miraheze continues to grow and prosper, though I'm not entirely certain as to what role(s) the community would feel I'd be best suited for. – AmandaCath (talk) 23:18, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

To clarify, Agent has filed intent to resign from all roles, as has Universal Omega.
As for your primary question, do you have Discord or IRC? It might be better to converse that way. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 23:28, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
I used to have IRC, though I don't anymore at least in part due to the network switch from Freenode (I could probably get it back though). I just thought that more people would be likely to visit/watch this page than the IRC channel or logs, and this page allows discussions even when I'm not actively monitoring them. – AmandaCath (talk) 23:32, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
If it's alright, IRC is preferred. If not, we can have the discussion here, though. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 23:37, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Just (re)joined IRC. I'll have a couple hours tonight before I need to sign off. – AmandaCath (talk) 23:56, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
OS is back. I don't know how likely it is to be approved given what happened, but I've filed to rejoin SRE as a MediaWiki Engineer. OrangeStar (talk) 16:02, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Invite Community to take part in current open requests

Can we put out a global message for review of current open requests. I am only aware of these 3:

I'd like to see a 24 hour notice to invite Mirahezians to Meta. Per count, there are 6,847 wikis. Votes come from the same usual participants (less then 20).

Perhaps a message such as: 

For your consideration, please review open requests (1) (2) (3)‎

I've also added a glossary at the bottom of each request to give context

--- Imamy (talk) 14:33, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Agent was the only person with access to make central notices. I guess SRE could also create them but I don't know how likely that is to happen. OrangeStar (talk) 15:34, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Typically, CentralNotices never go out for requests for comment or permissions because people find them annoying unless said RfX is super important. Agent Isai Talk to me! 05:32, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
I agree. Having a banner doesn't feel good. But there is almost never any way to draw anyone to RfCs. RfCs are very hard to find and hard to identify and confusing to read.
However, lately, we have not had any types of banners in a while so I don't think that posting one would be offensive.
The way I see it, if they were posted at scheduled times, people will probably look forward to them. If banners were put out quarterly or every 2 months for a 24 hour period where there is an overlap of the last day of the month and the first day of the next month, then anyone who'd like to find the RfC will probably check in on the night of one day, and the morning of the other.
RfC banners should be minimally worded. over time probably the banners will get more and more cryptic and discrete, much like leaving a note on the table that one can only find when one goes looking for it.
    Imamy (talk) 07:01, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

I'd like to suggest an alternate: add a notice on the meta main page. Maybe below the header so it's noticeable with just a one-liner for each of the open RfC's to give a title and link to each. It would not intrude on all wikis like a global banner, would be unobtrusive, but also easy to find. It could be hidden when there are no open RFC's. —Jph2 (talk) 14:26, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

I think adding a mini banner will work, but on Meta there is already a link to Request for Comment. We can add RfCs links to the current sidebar. Having both banner and sidebar will definitely be better than just one or the other. I think RfCs links could be tucked under Main Page Volunteers/Contribute subpages. I'm not sure why Community noticeboard doesn't have a direct link on the Main Page - eg "volunteer community support" eg "Community-centric wiki farm" eg "100% community-supported". Believe or not, I only just actually found it this week. I posted to Discord Miraheze and IRC/LC Miraheze before I even posted to Community noticeboard. Should at least be listed under Chat with Us even though not definitionally correct. It is on Help center subpage but I thought the section was identical to the Chat with Us. Now that I'm aware, I actually know what to look for.
Requests for Comment    GP    1    2‎
And if there are no open RfCs, the RfC links would be absent.
Global Permissions is not an RfC but if it can be placed with RfCs that would simplify navigation.
~ Imamy (talk) 17:12, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Password Recovery

Hello, how to change an account password (I remember the username but not the password, I had not put an email...). I'm looking for a way to regain access to my account! 2A01:CB0C:504:4900:FC00:AB89:7E7A:D695 20:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

There's no way to recover it unfortunately. You'll have to create a new one. OrangeStar (talk) 20:10, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
Except that this account is the creator account of a wiki...
ValRAIMOND1 (talk) 20:12, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
If you can't recovery that creator account
then you can use a different account to access the wiki
if someone higher up is active, ask them to give you rights
if it's not active, try holding an election to regain rights
I don't know much about elections. Perhaps someone can assist with those details. Imamy (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
Alright, thanks for the reply!
ValRAIMOND1 (talk) 04:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Reset lost credentials — in other words, either "don't forget the password" or "Set an enail". — revi 05:02, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

What's going on?

This wiki farm feels like it's going to collapse at any minute. I'm concerned because I'm relying on this site to host my project, and while it's slow going I'd still like to continue.

Would the staff still active please summarise what's going on to the regular users of this farm? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's worried. Bonbonyoshi (talk) 17:39, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

For that matter, who is still on staff? (CVT, Steward, Board, etc.) I don't want to end up assuming that any request is still In Progress after a person who said they'd work on it later resigned. --Robkelk (talk) 21:24, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
CVT is down to one Global Sysop and three Global Rollbackers, Void and Reception are the two Stewards remaining, and so far Agent has been the only resignation from SRE. The board still has two directors, Void and Owen. OrangeStar (talk) 07:51, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
The worrying thing is that no one knows what will happen. The whole of Miraheze hangs in the balance of a few volunteers. Historically, some volunteers left because of "differences of opinion". Even the co-founder John attempted to put things right at a time when Miraheze was dealing with a lot of problem users and/or volunteers. When I joined in 2016, Miraheze was a much smaller, but nicer community prior to incorporation status. Most of those people don't seem to be around any more. What happened to Southparkfan, NDKilla, and now Reception123, who seems to have taken a break, coincidentally at a time when this latest bout of disagreements/resignations/ban have taken place?
Those in higher volunteer positions, including board members (what's left anyway out of 9 possible seats), should step up and tell us, personally, what the heck is going on in an official statement to keep us all in the loop with regards to Miraheze's current stability and future. Differences need to be resolved. People need to stop bitching all the time, and get on with business, because it this does not happen, Miraheze will fall without the backbone of volunteers that have kept it going since 2015. People need to be put at ease, especially as there are wikis where a great deal of work have gone into them. Borderman (Talk) 16:15, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Support

  1.  Strongest support Miraheze is saving me major headaches providing a great Mediawiki hosting service. I'm only doing my (three) wikis as a hobby and can't afford to pay for premium hosting (£100 per wiki?), and no longer have the patience to attempt to get Mediawiki functioning on shared hosting. Without digging through Discord all the resignations of people with the technical know-how come totally out of the blue. Please can we have a summary of what's going on from an outsiders point of view. --Rob Kam (talk) 19:47, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
  2.  Support per Rob Kam. I am worried about this thing too. I can't even sleep last night. I don't want Miraheze to be shut down. I host a large amount of important content in it. I want to keep Miraheze alive. --小美粉粉 (T - C - S) 1004065811 bytes of data NOTE: Do not {{ping}} me! 06:36, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

OrangeStar's statement

Very well. Keep in mind this is just my point of view.

Former Steward Raidarr was placed by Trust and Safety under three restrictions: To complete a data protection training program, to refrain from discussing anything about Naleksuh, and another one I don't remember (it may have been only two restrictions). It appears these restrictions were broken, as Raidarr was banned two days ago by Trust and Safety. Prior to this, Owen, on his official capacity as a Trust and Safety member, was seen giving himself suppression and checkuser rights to review usage of these rights.

Prior to his banning, things were already getting hot because of an RfC by Universal Omega calling for a global ban of Naleksuh: Requests for Comment/Global ban for Naleksuh.

The board has discussed Trust and Safety's actions on a recent emergency meeting, with now-former director Universal Omega calling for Miraheze's dissolution: Board/Policies/20230607-Minutes.

Steward and SRE member Agent Isai have resigned, Universal Omega, who held Global Sysop has also cut ties with Miraheze, as well as probably other volunteers who held other roles.

Whether or not this farm will collapse and thus should move your wiki somewhere else is something everyone will have to decide for themselves. OrangeStar (talk) 20:03, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Per Tali64³ on Raidarr's talk, that other restriction concerned the use of CheckUser and Oversight. --Routhwick (talk) 21:53, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
The third was a general advisory to Miraheze about the introduction of data protection training becoming a requirement to hold/keep NDA access. See 3.1 of the linked minutes above. -- Void Whispers 21:14, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
People are calling for Miraheze's dissolution over a single T&S decision? Regardless of whether you think T&S was right or not, that is absolutely ridiculous. I respect the decision of volunteers to leave for personal reasons, but if you're going to take your ball and go home, don't let the door hit you on the way out. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 03:18, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
The framing in the meeting minutes was a bit confusing, the call for dissolution wasn't specifically instigated by only a single T&S request (as you might expect with several concurrent resignations) but isn't worth rehashing here. I would direct you to Void's statement below on the matter.
--NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 04:21, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I concur, the meeting meetings are a bit strange. No one called for Miraheze's dissolution directly over the Trust and Safety action, the discussion of dissolution was prompted by the fact that some volunteers who held multiple hats (considered 'core' volunteers) had resigned and more had pledged to resign thus probably causing a severe slowdown in time to action requests or instability without their aid. Agent Isai Talk to me! 04:28, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Say something.

Where have the staff gone? It's been several days and not one staff member has made any statements but are clearly editing on WikiTide and have previously "encouraged" users to migrate, despite from what I'm seeing WikiTide having no differences to Miraheze except name and association with WikiForge, which I thought Miraheze was going to be partnering with.


This is not my main account (I made this second one to keep my project seperate and nothing more) and I've been on Miraheze since 2021. I was sick of Fandom and its updates. I thought I could put my faith and trust into names like Agent Isai, Reception123 and Raidarr. I thought you knew what you were doing. Now seemingly you and the rest of the staff have left the entire Miraheze brand and community on hold.


I've never been in much of a responsible role, but this is NOT how staff react to a situation like this. You don't just go and hide on a new wiki farm, deem the old one a failure, and say nothing here. We may all have our different projects and communities but we all rely on you to know what's going on and to keep the place stable! We don't know what's going on behind the scenes. We don't know why you're acting like this. We don't know what to do.


Just to remind you, nearly 7,000 wikis rely on this site. If you don't say something, even suggest you're still here and trying to make a statement, that's a lot of people you're ditching. If there's nothing in a few days I'm requesting my wiki to be closed and I don't think it'll be WikiTide I host it on instead.


Yours sincerely, somebody who actually donated to this site. Bonbonyoshi (talk) 21:56, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

There's been a fair amount of discussion on this topic on the Miraheze Discord which you could go check. As I understand it, the TL;DR boils down to some folks disagreed with a user ban by Trust & Safety and they have resigned their volunteer roles with Miraheze. Some (or maybe all) have moved over to WT. In any case, those folks won't be doing anything on Miraheze now. The volunteer staff still with Miraheze are stretched a little bit at the moment, so some requests may take a little longer, but Miraheze is still up and running.

If you have a specific concern/question, perhaps you could address it to SRE, Stewards, or in the support channel on Discord.

As for "saying something", please see the #notices channel on the Discord. I feel your pain as I only recently joined the Discord, specifically because of concern around the current status of things. But I'd also caution against feeling the sky is falling.
—Jph2 (talk) 22:25, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
I'm glad to see at least something is being discussed, and I apologise for getting heated up, but I think something should have been stated as a site notice, not everyone is on that server.
The above comments they've made about 'Miraheze is not going to last 6 months, move to WikiTide but only an advisory, I agree, I agree, I agree' is what concerns me the most. Those comments, saying "advisory" or not, are what made me think the place was going to collapse. For people as high ranking as them to say things like that, I'm shocked. Bonbonyoshi (talk) 22:38, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Apologies for the lack of official communication on the matter. Jph2 summed up the situation quite well, but I want to say from an official position, that realistically the only major effects on Miraheze is that we have fewer volunteers. This means it will be slower to get things done, and we may have to evaluate whether or not we can still meet our commitment of providing the latest MediaWiki version. We will be reaching out to the community to try and fill out some roles. Until then though, I would like to remind everyone of the existence of Contributing and Miraheze Vacancies as points of getting started. -- Void Whispers 00:51, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
@Void Thanks for the update. Myself, like others, do not use Discord and have been reliant upon senior volunteers, like yourself, to provide us with information, which until now has been somewhat lacking. We don’t necessarily need to know the details of what happened. We would, however, find it useful to know where Miraheze currently stands and its long-term viability as a platform for us to keep working on our wikis. This you have briefly mentioned, so thanks again.
I was surprised to see a few notable volunteers wash their hands of Miraheze, especially as they have all put so much effort into making it work. May I suggest that from this pivotal point onwards, instead of looking at what has happened of late, we look at what needs to be done to make improvements and ensure this does not happened again. Please keep us informed of anything that might give us cause for concern in the future. Much appreciated. Borderman (Talk) 07:54, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
It's worth noting -- most of the people that could have placed a site notice or responded to you were part of the wave of resignations and thus no longer on the platform to reply. I personally am volunteering on both platforms and plan to continue doing so as long as feasible, however I didn't feel it was my place to speak on this point as this isn't a matter I could be credibly perceived as objective.
Thank you to Void, Jph2 and OrangeStar for their concise summary, I echo their sentiments and wish for the success of both projects.
--NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 04:31, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
I do want to apologise for the lack of on-wiki statement. As stated above, the drama was contained to Discord almost entirely and it was thought to be most prudent to leave it there. Jph2 sums it up pretty well, Trust and Safety globally banned a user and we were all in deep disagreement as we thought the action was too blunt for the violation of the restriction (specifically, a one-way interaction ban between them and another user) which occurred and additionally, we believed that the user shouldn't have been subjected to the restriction implemented. The user who was banned by Trust and Safety was always the most diplomatic, rational, and charismatic out of all of us so them being banned for a restriction that was placed on them for a rather mild use of words during a moment of lapse of judgement was rather blunt, especially since the user who was on the other side of the IBAN had done worse but was somehow the victim in all. T&S' appeals process is rather rigid and while T&S has since offered the user in question the ability to return if they complete certain training (not connected to the core reason why they were banned), trust in them has eroded for their initial action. Anyhow, yes, many volunteers have moved to another abode. Miraheze won't collapse over night, if it were to wind down, it would take months. Thankfully, the last fundraiser was a moderate success so Miraheze have enough funds to keep going until the end of the year. As stated above, volunteers leaving means requests will take more time to get done but hosting in general should not be disrupted unless monetary issues appear. Agent Isai Talk to me! 04:53, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
"T&S has since offered the user in question the ability to return if they complete certain training (not connected to the core reason why they were banned)" Can you elaborate how Data Protection training is not connected to misuse/poor handling of personal informational? It's seems like a 1:1 relationship to me and thus this point is not correct. The sanction was escalated very much in a similar way to a bail/parole violation would work. A user did something that was bad (2 things actually), but a ban was not in the interests of the community at the time - reform was. So T&S placed restrictions to prevent further misconduct and limit future damage until appropriate opportunity for reform and training was in place to protect the company and the community from further harm. The user refused to abide by the restrictions and then deliberately broke them - therefore escalated action in a similar way to parole violations. You have missed major context to the situation that I know you are fully aware of so I am disappointed that you are intentionally sharing misinformation around this given you were involved in the discussions and had the opportunity to review the evidence. Owen (Miraheze) (talk) 06:31, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
OK, now this is getting even more confusing. So trusted staff are now deliberately twisting situations?? I don't know who's right, but either one of you has to be wrong and openly lying to the community.
And what do we do? Why are all of the staff moving to WikiTide and what are we going to do on Miraheze? Is this place really unsaveable that you all have to leave for it?
What's the difference? Is it going to be the same as Miraheze just with a different name, and if so why don't you stay here and try to help and improve that? Surely this place can't be that unstable? You should have never linked and suggested moving in the first place because, I don't care if it said 'precautionary' you said Miraheze will not last six months, move to WikiTide. I agree. I agree. Agreed. You mentioned turning off donations. You said you were giving the whole site a few months. This is not what staff of a wiki say in front of their users.
You've gotten this all the wrong way around. You've been saying the private, 'people should not know' things on the wiki, and things people should know on Discord where not everyone can see it. Bonbonyoshi (talk) 08:29, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
@Bonbonyoshi Sometimes people just disagree and the only amicable way is to part ways. Wikitide and Wikiforge will most likely work to a slightly different model, with minor differences in its policies. It might also be more selective on the wikis it creates. Other than that I do not know at this stage. Miraheze is not dead and can be “saved” (for want of a better expression) with the right people to help move it in the right direction. It’s leadership - @Void and @Owen (Miraheze) - needs to be positive and drive the community forward positively. It has certainly become a lot more political since it’s inception, and maybe this is just one of the reasons why there are differences of opinion. There is no point in deceiving the community. If there is a real sense it could collapse, this needs to be identified early on so people can make plans. Regarding Discord, I personally don’t use it, but there’s nothing stopping anyone from creating an account and learning what’s happening there. Borderman (Talk) 09:04, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Additionally, for those that don't want to create accounts everywhere: Conversations on Discord are logged publicly on the IRC side, so you can read the logs online in your browser. Here are the logs for #miraheze and here are the logs for #miraheze-offtopic, which also hosted some conversations related to this. OrangeStar (talk) 12:02, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the link! IRC is so much easier to read than Discord. --- Imamy (talk) 14:22, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

As long as people in a position to know are answering questions... I keep seeing an ambiguous phrase: "certain training". Exactly what training is being required here? Are we looking at a full-week instructor-led classroom session with an exam that must be passed for completion, or a two-hour at-desk online session with a refresher quiz that doesn't need to be passed, or something in between? (I have been on both types of data-protection courses in my career.) Is this something that somebody decided was a good idea or is this a legal requirement? Who is paying for the training, the volunteer or Miraheze? --Robkelk (talk) 11:05, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

As for why this being introduced, I obviously don't know why it was imposed on Raidarr, but Owen also wants other NDA holders to do this training as well. Owen mentioned it at Board/Policies/20230607-Minutes, and stated (3.3 in the minutes) that "both proposals (T&S auditing CU and suppression usage, and mandatory data protection training) are mandatory under Information Commissioner’s Office advice – we need to ensure we train people appropriate and audit their access and usage of personal information inline with the Data Protection Act 2018." OrangeStar (talk) 11:55, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Can we start the data protection training already? Because everyone I've talked to so far at has been entirely disinterested in data protection, and has treated this as a personnel issue. I keep hearing that there has been misuse of PII at the heart of this matter, but no one will say what exactly happened. All remaining members of the board told me that it can't be discussed due to NDA. But this runs entirely counter to the letter and the spirit of the Data Protection Act. Because there was a data breach of PII, the onus is on Miraheze to disclose it so that that users can take appropriate action to protect themselves. Depending on the severity, it should also be reported to the ICO. And that 72 hour deadline for reporting has long passed. Right now, I do not know how insecure I am, because Miraheze staff have repeatedly refused to tell me, as well as ignored requests for an incident report. —Labster (talk) 03:52, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
Training was at the forefront of this moving forward - it was made mandatory for Raidarr who refused it and chose to resign as a Steward than do the training, and it was proposed to the Board to make it mandatory which was disagreed with by a former Director who chose to table a dissolution motion and resign than accept we required this training. There was no public data breach or any suspicion that data was mishandled in a way that created a high risk to anyone. As it was unauthorised access and was heavily localised to a small subset of identifiable users, there is no duty to ICO. Further there are no actions for general members of the community to take as it was localized and those affected no longer participate on Miraheze. Anyone affected has been contacted in line with the law. Owen (Miraheze) (talk) 05:05, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
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