Community noticeboard/Archive 32

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Remove the colored background from my wiki?

Hello, someone could tell me how to remove the grey background from my wiki: https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/
I deleted my entire MediaWiki:Common.css code, without success. Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 16:00, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

You may have to wait a while as it takes a bit of time to update. If it still persists, clear the cache of your browser. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 16:32, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@ZeusDeeGoose: I did it several times, and I changed the code twenty minutes ago. Darkrai18 (talk) 16:44, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Try purging the cache. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 16:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@ZeusDeeGoose: I just told you I've done it several times. Darkrai18 (talk) 16:55, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

I meant on the wiki. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 16:59, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@ZeusDeeGoose: Well yes, on the wiki. Darkrai18 (talk) 17:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

I didn't see anything incorrect on the wiki, I believe it has been resolved. — Pixial ^[Talk] 02:06, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Drawn Feet Wiki: possible block evasion

To Tycio and DeltaRuneFan2001, I have ample reason to believe that Lucario448 is a block-evading sockpuppet of Ceadeus, as the former is continuing the latter's uploading of images with no feet showing. I have no choice but to take this here, as I am blocked on the wiki and cannot edit my own talk page. ThisWas (talk) 20:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I took care of that, and for an extra bonus, I deleted more of his pictures because he is apparently Mew according to CherryFeet. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 02:26, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Could you gather some evidence? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:30, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Unable to edit permissions/settings/extensions

On the extensions, core settings, and permission pages I am unable to edit any of them even though I'm the owner.

They are all grayed-out buttons and whenever a user or visitor goes onto any of the wiki pages (aside from Main Page), it just shows this:

You do not have permission to read this page, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Bureaucrats, Members, Administrators.

I need this fixed ASAP. Thanks. Raidz (talk) 22:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)raidzxd

Can you give a link to the wiki you own? MacacoKouhai (talk) 22:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Here: mystanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Raidz (talk) 22:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Ah! It is because you can no longer make further configurations due to some T&S investigation https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=752885. MacacoKouhai (talk) 22:39, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, that's weird. Is there any possible reason to know why this is happening or when it will be over? Raidz (talk) 22:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't know. Maybe you can try contacting User:Doug (Miraheze) or User:Mysterion5361 privately. MacacoKouhai (talk) 22:54, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Raidz (talk) 23:05, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Forminput box not appearing on mobile

Hello!

When I check my site on mobile, the forminput box and "Create or edit" button does not appear on my form pages. You can check this here.

Can someone help me figure out why and help me fix this?

Thanks! ParentRatings (talk) 01:28, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

I've tested on other browsers and other devices, and it sometimes works. I assume this has to do with how they implement JavaScript. The one place I cannot get it to work on is my android device using Chrome. I double checked and JavaScript is enabled. Is mobileview always this finnicky? Is there a way to make this better? I assume that an android device using Chrome is going to be a very common combination and want to be able to get my site working for those users. Thanks for any assistance. ParentRatings (talk) 23:10, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

I've tried looking up more about MobileFrontEnd and the MinervaNeue skin, but haven't found anything useful. My form is also having trouble displaying divs when show on select is applied. On mobile, all divs are shown regardless of what is selected or not (and the spinning wheel is always present), and on desktop some divs are selectively not showing. I'm getting pretty lost and don't know what even to Google search next. You can check out what is happening on this page. Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ParentRatings (talk) 23:08, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

I've discovered that the desktop view on mobile does not have these problems. If anyone knows of a way to use MobileFrontEnd with MinervaNeue and have the input boxes show and the show on select divs hide when not selected, I would be much obliged, but for now I can switch all mobile users to the desktop view.

I am skill having trouble with some show on select divs not showing when they are selected and would appreciate another set of eyes to see what I am missing. Thanks! ParentRatings (talk) 00:29, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

After various tests, I discovered that using show on select within two different input fields pointing to the same div will cause mediawiki to hide those divs unless both inputs are selected. This has solved my other issue. ParentRatings (talk) 06:12, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

XP4Ever WIKI gone

The XP4Ever Wiki that used to be available at: https://xpforever.miraheze.org is no longer there. What happened?

I see it was closed because of inactivity, which is sad news. An abandoned Wiki is as useful a repository of knowledge as an live one, especially when the subject is a old operating system. Can it be reinstated to the joy of retrocomputing enthusiasts? In fact, I am writing this from Windows XP!

Can you perhaps bring it back up for a short period so that I may archive it, or—even better—let me download an archive of this Wiki? 94.79.3.84 09:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Per Special:DeletedWikis, XP4Ever was created on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:37:50 GMT, and deleted on Thu, 21 Jul 2022 13:05:13 GMT. Perhaps a steward can help you out at Requests for reopening wikis? Or better yet, try contacting original bureaucrat Xack wherever else he's active. --Routhwick (talk) 09:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

P.S. Xack should have made a dormancy exemption beforehand. --Routhwick (talk) 09:29, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

The wiki is merged into Retro Windows Wiki. As the only bureaucrat Xack have declared to leave, the wiki is now at a no bureaucrat status and is currently managed by stewards. Any local election for applying the bureaucrat status is welcomed, but do note the sitenotice there, in which a registered account is required to request rights, as well as contributions are need to shown investment to the wiki in order to apply for admin rights. -Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 11:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, guys. Is there any practical reason to revive XP4Ever if, as you say and I have checked, it has been integrated into Retro Windows Wiki? 94.79.3.84 12:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Request to import images from angrybirds.fandom.com to angrybirds.miraheze.org

Hello! Can someone please import the images from angrybirds.fandom.com to angrybirds.miraheze.org? The wiki looks better with the images. Reece2o19 (talk) 07:15, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

@Reece2o19: I'm sure someone will assist you sooner or later. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:39, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

If you already have folder of images taken from Fandom wiki, you should make a task on Phabricator about image import, so system administrator will see it and perform it, see here: Moving a wiki to Miraheze#Have us do it

KatozzKita (talk) 06:49, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

I unfortunately do not have all the pictures from the wiki. Reece2o19 (talk) 15:51, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you must download all images manually. Fandom doesn't allow you to scrape images automatically. From a personal experience, it sucks. If you need someone to help you with the images, I can. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 04:05, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok. Reece2o19 (talk) 05:15, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

How to add a feature from Wikipedia to Miraheze?

I am writing a fake biography of a footballer/soccer player. On Wikipedia, there is a feature called "infobox footballer biography" which allows you to put stats about said person's career. However when I tried to use that on my wiki that I'm working on, it didn't work and nothing happened. It said the template wasn't found. Is there anyway to add a feature from Wikipedia to Miraheze? Or something similar?

Thanks in advance. TheNeditor355748 (talk) 13:00, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Import Template:Infobox footballer biography from Wikipedia and include all templates. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 14:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, but can you please explain how to actually import a template from Wikipedia? Like step by step, if possible. TheNeditor355748 (talk) 15:40, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

It is a very complicated and long process. You would have to go to Wikipedia's Special:Export and put the titles of the infoboxes you want, download, go to your wiki's Special:Import and upload the file. However, that's all your infobox will come unformatted. As I said, it's much more than that, it's complicated to understand. — Pixial ^[Talk] 02:03, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Creating a background out of repeating images

So I'm trying to make a background with repeating titles. This is the image I am using.
File:WikiBackground.jpg
How would I go about doing this? ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 03:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Nevermind, found it out. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 05:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Infobox template error

Hello I made an infobox template here: https://tennislibrary.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Tennis Player that has an extra end script )) appearing on the top left side of the page, I've tried finding where the error is, but unfortunatley my eye sight even with glasses is pretty bad. If anyone knows how to fix it I'd be very grateful, as its appearing on player bio pages ive created many thanks. Admiral Marcus (talk) 04:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Fixed :-) PercyUK (talk) 07:19, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much just seen it now whilst working on a new page. Admiral Marcus (talk) 09:47, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Make a sub-section disappear when it is empty?

The title is certainly not clear, so I will explain.
On this model: https://thebatman.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Character, the "Appearances" section is empty, but the header still exists, which bothers me. So, I would like the header of the sub-section to disappear when it is empty, and to reappear when there is something inside (Movies, TV Series, ect).
Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 12:25, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

@Darkrai18:

| header7 = {{#if: {{{movies|}}}{{{series|}}}{{{comics|}}}{{{books|}}}| <small><center>Appearances</small></center> }}

PercyUK (talk) 13:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Darkrai18 (talk) 13:48, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

New Request for Comments draft

Hi everyone, I have published a draft RfC on the establishment of Global rollbackers. I invite everyone to share their comments and opinions on it here. Thanks! Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 22:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

TheTopTens

I remember discussing why I couldn't use this as a source as it was blocked by the spam filter when I tried to use it. I was told it had been blacklisted and that if I wanted to change that, I should create an RFC. However, I cannot find the discussion. Does anyone know where the discussion is, and more importantly, whether or not this information is true (as in, it is blacklisted and I should create an RFC if I want to change that)? Fat Burn 0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 10:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

The Spam Blacklist is managed by the Counter Vandalism Team exclusively so an RfC would mandating a change would be overly blunt. If you have any suggestions for CVT regarding the spam blacklist, feel free to start a discussion on the Stewards' noticeboard. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 17:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Agent Isai: Okay, but can you verify the URL thetoptens.com is being blocked somehow? Fat Burn 0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 20:56, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

I vaguely remember people discussing about TheTopTens, but I believe it's already blocked somehow? (Correct me if I am wrong about that.) --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:38, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Recap from Stewards' noticeboard/Archive 31#Question:

"TheTopTens was banned from being linked to as it is full of abuse and unmoderated." (RhinosF1)
Reception123:
- "[W]e have considered the fact that the community doesn't want wikis to be able to link to an abusive and unmoderated website."
- "Creating pages about TheTopTens isn't banned, only using the actual link will be prevented (if I understood what you meant correctly)."
"[This site] is quite a spammy website and has been the source of numerous Content Policy issues, so as others have said, I would advise against it." (Dmehus)
"Specifically, it was added as a result of this [August 2020] discussion for hosting harassment towards Miraheze users." (Chrs)

--Routhwick (talk) 22:26, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

@Agent Isai: Hello? Fat Burn 0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 20:32, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Global Sysops and opt-out - thoughts?

Before deciding whether to open a formal proposal I wish to gather the thoughts and opinions of the community on the question of Global Sysop opt-outs. Here is an extract from my vote in the current Global rollbackers RfC which explains the situation:

"I do not very much believe in the opt-out concept that exists for Global Sysops because of the fact that Global Sysops also enforce global policies so by having an opt-out wikis are able to restrain the people who are able to enforce policies. It is as if a city could "opt-out" from national police and only allow local police to enforce laws - it does not make much sense ... I strongly support any proposal to abolish the strict opt-out concept and instead replace it with a system where wikis can opt-out from enforcement of local policies (such as vandalism, local blocks, etc.) but cannot opt-out from enforcement of global policies under any circumstances". DeeM28 (talk) 06:47, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I think a limited opt out might make more sense for something like global rollbackers who better resemble platform minimods that may for whatever reason be undesirable in local affairs. I agree with the sentiment that when it becomes a global policy issue, opt out does not make sense. Even with vandalism it can reflect back on the platform.

I would say, the circumstances where a global sysop can really go all the way handling global policy are limited beyond account locks. More fine situations or enforcing wiki-wide consequence often requires Steward exclusive tools or advanced investigation. In those scenarios it's preferable to just bring in a steward who has the appropriate 'punch' to ensure results. But the steward activity issue is not gone, either. It's not a role to lean on too strongly. I'm finding myself slipping into a more 'doug role' of skipping time between actions as time goes on, activity wise. I'd like a degree of that responsibility to be available to GS, though we don't have the manpower to do that. So I only have observations, not a conclusion. --Raidarr (talk) 11:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I'd say a balanced approach sounds better than the current situation where Global Sysops can be completely restricted. It's true that most of the time for global policy violations they're complex enough to need Stewards but I myself as Global Sysop have handled a lot of issues like CoC violations or copyright violations so I do think that such issues shouldn't be opted out of. Reception123 (talk) (C) 12:53, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Even with vandalism it can reflect back on the platform. This is why there is no Steward action opt out. Even GSysOps are a form of "minimods". If an opt-out community is truly negligent to the degree that it affects or threatens the wider Miraheze community or image, Steward intervention is still discretionary. dross (t • c • g) 22:20, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

To come back to this, an option with more nuance may be to allow Stewards to revoke opt-outs on wikis which have had in the past issues with respecting global policies. DeeM28 (talk) 11:32, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Permission request to access Miraheze.org (basic)

Hi there. I am having trouble figuring out how to gain access to read/view the Ark Omega Miraheze.org pages. I could access them originally, but now I keep getting the following message:

Permission error You do not have permission to read this page, for the following reason:

The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Confirmed users, Members, Administrators.

Please advise how I might gain access to view these pages. Thanks.

WillyQuick777 (talk) 16:31, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

That means that the wiki was made private. You'll have to contact the administrators on why that is. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 16:33, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Bot accounts

How do you add bot accounts? Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:14, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to note that Meta:Requests for permissions is for asking for rights on this wiki so unless you're asking for rights on this wiki, that's the wrong page to request things.

To add bot rights to a user on your wiki, go to Special:UserRights and assign the bot flag to the bot. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 17:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Oh. Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

My wiki is still in review. Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Its called Animevortex. if you want to approve it. Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:43, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Request to add the graph and kartographer extension to imt.miraheze.org

I would like to enable graph and maps embeding in imt.miraheze.org. I've turned on the pre-required extensions jsonconfig and codeeditor. Can a steward make the necessary change in the configs? Thanks Uceppi (talk) 18:04, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

@Uceppi: What configuration change do you need? Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 02:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

How can I change the talk page to StructuredDiscussions-board

I am working on a wiki called DuchessDoesMiraheze Wiki and I wanted to add the StructuredDiscussions-board style on the user talk pages but it's not on the list so please help. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 20:34, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

@DuchessTheSponge: To do that, go to Special:ManageWiki/namespaces -> (Main) -> Talk and change the default content model of the page to StructuredDiscussions. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 02:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks DuchessTheSponge (talk) 06:10, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Wait this is my exact problem since I tried that once but it's not on there. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 06:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

On some older pages, you'll need to manually change the content model via Special:ChangeContentModel Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 06:12, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

How do i rename my database?

I want to change my wiki name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teddythedev0 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 24 August 2022

@Teddythedev0: Please remember to sign your posts by adding ~~~~. To request a subdomain name change (changing the 'database' name), please make a request on Phabricator, thanks. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 15:45, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Is it possible to Add RFCS?

If it is, How do you do it? Teddythedev0 (talk) 16:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

What is RFCS? Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 17:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

I mean RFC's Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

It is but why do you wish to make a new Request for Comments? Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 17:21, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Dunno? Teddythedev0 (talk) 11:47, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Wiki sidebar and icon dissapeared after adding custom CSS?

I've recently created my wiki and when I tried adding in custom CSS the wiki's sidebar and icon dissapeared. I have not touched anything related to either the sidebar or icon in the CSS file, so why are they gone? Bones404 (talk) 23:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

What's the URL to your wiki? Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 00:52, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

brutalorchestramodding.miraheze.org Bones404 (talk) 13:22, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

I can't upload files and edit in LGBTA+ Wiki

I can't upload files and edits in LGBTA+ wiki now.

This is what was displayed when I tried to upload a file:
Moderation
Success: your image has been sent to moderation.
Once approved, it will be visible to other users. TMNBFF (talk) 13:28, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

@TMNBFF: That means that that wiki's admins use the Moderation extension which means that an admin must approve your edit before it's published. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 16:14, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Sort by Protection

How can I reorder the various permissions in the protection settings? Kyou (talk) 04:48, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Please ask to Phabricator.Thank you. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 05:01, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

For non-Japanese speakersThe file shown is written in Japanese.Here are translated sentences.

全ての利用者のみに許可→"Allows only all users"

登録利用者のみに許可→"Allows only registered users"

自動承認された利用者のみに許可→"Allows only autoconfirmed users"

拡張承認された利用者のみに許可→"Allows only extended confirmed users"

管理者のみに許可→"Allows only sysops" by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 05:10, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

拡張承認された利用者と管理者に許可ではないですかね？ Kyou (talk) 05:12, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Local interwiki administrator amendment proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Proposal successful as written. John (talk) 17:43, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

The reason why interwiki administrators exist is because there is a risk that if an untrustworthy or rogue user has access to the interwiki table, they can insert malicious links and make it seem like an innocent wikilink and a user could then click on it and be directed to the malicious website. With the current system, on wikis with few users a single support is all that is needed for someone to be elected as local IW which undermines the whole idea of it being a trustworthy user. Therefore, I propose the following one issue amendment as allowed by the RfC policy:

On wikis with less than <select below> active users (5 edits in the last 30 days), local interwiki administrators cannot be elected. Global interwiki administrators handle all requests.

Reception123 (talk) (C) 19:48, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Main Proposal

Support

Support per above. The whole idea of having to elect a local interwiki administrator doesn't make sense if only one user can participate in the election and make it successful. Reception123 (talk) (C) 19:48, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Strong support I strongly support this as the current process is too lax in this regard. As I mentioned in my comment to an oppose vote, it's easy to rack 500 local edits or even 1,000 local edits through various ways. CommentStreams logs a new edit whenever you comment or edit a comment, Translate logs one to two edits every time you translate a new unit (not a page, but instead a translation unit which may be as small as a word as a big as a paragraph), and more. Using the last method I mentioned, I could probably rack up a thousand edits in a day if I wanted to. The whole reason that interwiki isn't bundled into the default bureaucrat group is to add a safeguard against a malicious actor adding a malicious link into the interwiki table. The current process essentially allows for this safeguard to be bypassed in essence as anyone can basically be named local interwiki-admin with little to no votes in a small community. It would be best if local interwiki-admins can be named only once the community is big enough for meaningful local elections. A local election in a small wiki is merely a spectacle, a show at this point, it has no real substance if no one's going to vote in the end and the user will likely end up winning. Stewards also don't vet local candidates for competency or for knowledge of the policy, etc., while global Interwiki administrators are scrutinized for their knowledge of policy, competence, and more. For this reason, I think it's best to restrict the ability elect interwiki-admins until a community is big enough. A user can request a global IWA or Steward add a new entry into the table easily and there's no real big downside to this. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 04:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Support Per the above. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 05:09, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Support It has been demonstrated by a previous Request for Comment in which I had the pleasure to participate that there are two opposing takes about editing interwiki links: that there is not as much danger to it as suggested or on the contrary that it is easy for local staff to insert dangerous links. These are legitimate questions but this is a single proposal and this is not what is at stake here. It is evident that in the RfC that I cite above the purpose of Proposal 5 was to permit local interwiki administrators if they are trusted by the local community. I believe that it is nonsensical that as is suggested above a single vote is all that a user requires under the current rules to become interwiki administrator. It would be very simple for that user to create an undetected secondary account or to even ask an acquitance to vote for him or her and would be against the whole current interwiki administrator framework which requires trusted users. In conclusion as part of this framework the current status quo does not make sense. Some may point to the fact that there is an edit requirement. My answer to that is that just because someone has made a lot of edits that does not mean that they would not be willing to insert a dangerous link knowing that no one would find out. There is also the fact that a lot of minor edits can be done or even automatic edits. --DeeM28 (talk) 11:31, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Support --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Support (1) A new wiki could conceivably avoid interwikis entirely. (2) A new wiki is almost always small; and with luck, grows to many active users. (3) The danger of interwikis, to silently divert readers to websites they may regard as malicious (and to send you somewhere when you thought you were going somewhere else), is significant. So I agree with defaulting wikis to global interwiki management. Rather than debate what a good threshold is for "active enough", I suggest that Admins themselves petition global Admins to "bring home" the interwiki management task. Spıke (talk) 18:57 5-Sep-2022
Support Nothing much to say, DeeM28 and Agent Isai have reasoned from my point of view. -- Joseph TB CT CA 11:16, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Support I agree with Agent Isai… Executive2 (talk) 10:34, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Support Per Agent Isai.--1108-Kiju/▶talk 10:50, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose The current requirement (1000 global edits/500 local edits) for applying for a local interwiki administrator is already sufficient as (i) most users with malicious intent won’t bother to reach such a requirement; (ii) as of now I cannot see an urgent need for this, as I see there is very little requests for local IAs. When reviewing the request, stewards takes responsibility in reviewing the candidates’ contributions, as well as testing their competence to determine whether the links are malicious, and can reasonably decline a request (this is same will other local elections). Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 03:47, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
That really isn't the case with the local elections process though. Stewards do not check or review the "competence" of a user or their contributions, it's sort of a "oh, an election, okay" type process. It doesn't make sense to allow interwiki-admin on small wikis as 500 local edits can be achieved easily using many ways (for example, using the Translate extension to "translate" an article. Each new translation counts as an edit; or by using a bot, etc.). The reason that interwiki isn't bundled with bureaucrat as is the case on vanilla MediaWiki is to allow for a safeguard against adding malicious links into the table and passing them off as plain looking links. If a user can achieve 500 contributions and get a friend to vote (or, if no one even votes, no one) in an election, that basically bypasses this safeguard, the right might as well be bundled into the bureaucrat group. It's not fair to say someone was "elected" when in reality, no one was around to really vote on the proposal or a friend voted in the proposal and that's it. That process is way too lax and can easily be abused. I think global interwiki admins or Stewards can handle requests just fine, there's no issue there really. If a wiki grows above this size, local interwiki administrators can be voted in as needed. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 04:00, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Why would you say that it might as well be added with bureaucrat? Why would someone spend time to add a malicious link after getting 500 edits just to be blocked/locked? Interwiki isn't to look like a wikilink, it's to allow for easier linking to websites. If you wanted to make it look like a wikilink, you could just use <span class="plainlinks">[url label]</span>. -- Bukkit^{[cetacean needed]} 01:10, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Oppose It'll be helpful to add IW links without a need of another Interwiki Administrators, where completion can take well over a day, as opposed to requesting the IA right. With nobody there locally, nobody else can really vote, so in my opinion, if it's advertised for a good amount of time on the site notice, that should be good enough. -- Bukkit^{[cetacean needed]} 01:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
If you have concerns in regard to the turnaround time for the group then why not consider running for it? Complaining doesn't equal anything but action does. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 01:06, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Oppose per above --小美粉粉 (T - C - S) 1004065811 bytes of data NOTE: Do not {{ping}} me! 06:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Abstain

5 active users

Support

Support 5 users seems to be the right threashold, as under that it seems unlikely that a proper consensus can be formed as to whether someone is fit to be IW. Reception123 (talk) (C) 19:48, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Support This limit appears to be reasonable and we do not want to unfairly prevent local interwiki administrators from operating on wikis which have some level of community as opposed to the single vote example given above. --DeeM28 (talk) 11:31, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Support To an extent. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:43, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

Abstain

10 active users

Support

Oppose

Oppose Between 5-10 active users seems like a decent community size that can form consensus about IWs. Reception123 (talk) (C) 19:48, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Oppose per vote above. --DeeM28 (talk) 11:31, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Abstain

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Wiki Limit

Hi, I'm wondering — is there a limit to how many wikis one can register? Thank you! JamestheGreat (talk) 02:10, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi, though there is no limits on how many wikis you can request, you should have a clear scope of your wiki before you request one, and it should not violate the Content Policy. Additionally, if you have previously requested too much wikis that are unused, or request excess wikis with the same scope, it will not be tolerated. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 02:42, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Content Policy reform draft

Hi everyone,

Please note that myself and Agent Isai have drafted an RfC in order to reform the current Content Policy. We'd appreciate any feedback or comments about any of the proposals before opening it to voting. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:01, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

How to add a read only user to a wiki?

A wiki might want to include a read only user, for example for a user to access but not be able to edit a private wiki. Answering my own question: The easiest way to do this is to to do a sitewide block of the user. Then that user will still be able to read the wiki but will no longer be able to edit. Rob Kam (talk) 11:56, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

How about making another user group with the read right, but not the edit right? Tali64³ (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

You can also revoke edit rights from users who aren't supposed to edit (ex. (everyone), Users, Members), and then create another right with the permission to view and edit. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 17:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Sortable Table - Custom Order?

I am working on a large chart of fictional characters' birthdays. One of the columns I have is a field to input their zodiac sign. When I click to sort by zodiac, however, it goes alphabetically. This is a feature I can totally live without, but just in case- is there anything I can do to make it sort in the order of the zodiac instead? I have no idea if a custom value heirarchy is supported by default without crazy extension wizardry etc, but would 'put transparent ordering numbers in front of all the zodiac names' or something work lol Chantolove (talk) 19:37, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Chantolove: WikiMedia has a help page but no option. I use data-sort-value="number" numbering the zodiacs from 1 to 12. As you are creating a long chart you could create a template for each zodiac to quickly add

Template:Aries

data-sort-value="1"| Aries

PercyUK (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

worked perfectly!! tysmsmsm :] Chantolove (talk) 20:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Should the reception wikis shutdown on Miraheze.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Per Agent Isai's closure of the RfC that was copied from here. There is no need to undermine the local community vote with a global vote as this time. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

I noticed on the Qualitipedia Request For Comments having mostly votes supporting the shutdown of the wikis, but do you guys also support this or not? Let me know in the Support, Oppose, and Abstain votes below. Nidoking (talk) 13:51, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

@Nidoking: I'm sure they are well aware of the RfC on Qualitipedia Meta. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Well, I don't believe many of them that use the wikis have not seen it at all yet. So maybe some people from here, could vote. Nidoking (talk) 13:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

I think that if there was really to be a vote about the Reception wikis this should be an RfC and not merely a Community Noticeboard thread. Either way, I think waiting for the outcome of the current QP RfC is preferable Reception123 (talk) (C) 14:02, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal

Support

Strongest support ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 19:54, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Strongest support KumihoWolffey (talk) 17:18, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose Considering that the wikis may get lost to time, and the wikis have not became 10 years old in time for it's anniversary. Nidoking (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose For the same reasons I gave on the actual RfC on Qualitipedia. Tali64³ (talk) 19:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Abstain

Abstain I'm pretty much abstaining, for pretty obvious reasons. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:00, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

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<mainpage> tag not working

Hello. Im new to miraheze and i has bug thay literally kills the code. <mainpage> literally dont work and displayed as plain text. Maybe i need any extension? I cant give screenshot because it block miraheze! Please help me! Максим Фединов (talk) 20:46, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

If you moved over from Fandom then you have to enable the DummyFandoomMainpageTags extension at Special:ManageWiki/extensions -> Parser hooks. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 03:04, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Many tags doesnt working

Hello what extensions i need for working tags <infobox>, <title source>, <default>, <format>, <group>, <header>, <label>? Thanks in advance User:Obossum721 (talk) 11:23, 13 September 2022 (MSK)

@Obossum721: Portable Infobox - PercyUK (talk) 09:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for help, but it doesnt work Obossum721 (talk) 09:39, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@Obossum721: it's called PortableInfobox, it should be in "Parser hooks" tab. Bear in mind that such changes might take 5-10 minutes to actually start working, or you can manually purge pages to see them ("Purge" button is near "Edit", "History", etc). KatozzKita (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Extension was enabled at 9:39 (GMT+3), but 5 hours have already passed and nothing has changed, cache has been cleared 6 times Obossum721 (talk) 11:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

It is a translation issue. It is expecting wording to be in Russian but is English OR expecting wording to be in English but is Russian. I have created Шаблон:Stranosphere and <infobox> is working. - PercyUK (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

It was bag with tabing in end of template. How i can add image to infobox? Obossum721 (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Problems with templates

Hi. A template with a category in <includeonly> ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Stub ) works correctly, but in a template without a category ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Копипаста ) <br> appears below the main block ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Токугава ). What's the problem? Rairakkumee (talk) 13:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

WHEN I TRY TO CHANGE THE WIKI ICON THE SETTINGS RESET

WHEN I TRY TO CHANGE THE ICON (OR ANY OTHER SETTINGS) FOR MY WIKI, ONCE I SAVE THE SETTINGS AND RELOAD THE PAGE, THEY RESET :( Ghostie222 (talk) 05:53, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Chill out, dude. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 05:59, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

IM NOT YELLING ITS JUST HOW I TYPE! :] /G Ghostie222 (talk) 06:05, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

First, all-caps equals yelling, so you are choosing to yell. Second, did you purge the page so that it would pick up the new settings, or just reload the old page from the wiki cache? --Robkelk (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Fair dealing

I think there need to be a page on fair dealing because there's a new notice that notifies that in UK (Miraheze is based in said country), the country goes by fair dealing whereas for Americans like me we're used to fair use. From what I've gathered in this Wikipedia article, fair dealing applies to non-commercial study and research, though it has a limited application to things such as software & has to show how it applies. I run several video game-related wikis that use a lot of images that would, under U.S. law, qualify as fair use & need them to show how various character artwork, game screenshots, sprites, and so forth look like. My personal guess is that uploading media without caption or context is a violation of fair dealing, although I always strive to do add them for proper documentation.

Does anyone have any input on this? I feel there needs to be a user-friendly list of examples of what is allowed and what is not allowed. I think I'm okay, but a fair dealing page here would help minimize the risk of violating fair dealing, especially at the risk of wiki closure. Bawitdaba (talk) 12:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

This is something that should be included in a primer about how UK copyright law applies to Miraheze, in my opinion. "Fair Dealing" in the UK is different from "Fair Dealing" in Canada or "Fair Use" in the USA, so having a quick explanation and a short list of common cases would be useful. --Robkelk (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes -- I have stated to others before that I have set up U.S. fair use templates on my wiki before, although I've manually readded the UK fair dealing in my custom MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices, so there would be a bit of conflict.

I have wondered if the wikis I run recognize U.S. fair use while acknowledging that the host itself recognizes UK fair dealing due to being hosted within the UK, meaning that there cannot be conflict between the two & that fair dealing overrides fair use due to, again, where the location is hosted. If this is allowed I'd update the MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices accordingly. Perhaps I'd add that extra notice in Project:Copyrights because legal people are not likely to check Special:Upload Bawitdaba (talk) 13:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

The issue is quite complex since the UK only has case law about fair dealing but no statutory/clear definition of what it is. The best guide can be found on the UK Government webiste. While it may sound very vague it seems the main question is really just whether the use of the file in such a way is fair. While this isn't a legal opinion, I'd probably guess it can't be too far from the US definition of fair use (even though it is probably a bit stricter). Reception123 (talk) (C) 07:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

@Reception123: Would I be allowed to use U.S. fair use licensing templates on my wikis? I just ask because it would take all day for me to replace all of it to say "fair dealing." I can say in Project:Copyrights, MediaWiki:Uploadtext that although copyrighted files recognized under fair use, it cannot conflict with fair dealing due to Miraheze being based in the UK. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Name change please

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까?

message mix...

english + different speech = impossible

korea speech + ? = possible

i'm didn't know of 주문은 치노입니까 produce :(

주문은 치노입니까? produce trial's similar of impossible :(

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까? Name change ok?주문은 치노입니까 (talk) 04:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

@주문은 치노입니까: Hello.Do you mean it's your wiki's name?You can change it in "Special:Managewiki/core" if you're bureaucrat of the wiki or have "managewiki" permission. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:27, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

(Machine translation; 기계 번역) 사이트 이름을 변경하려면 "Special:ManageWiki/core"에서 변경할 수 있습니다. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Chinese Uncyclopedia should be open to public

When and why Chinese Uncyclopedia becomes a private wiki? As an editor of the wiki, I'm not informed about this and I can't ask reasons on the wiki because of lack of permission. As one of active uncyclopedias, I think it's reasonable to re-open to public. 全都是套路 (talk) 04:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Have you contacted sysop of Chinese uncyclopedia?I think you should do it if you've not done. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- I can't contact them, and they never read messages in the past. --全都是套路 (talk) 09:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

- @全都是套路 For example,on meta.You couldn't? by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 12:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Date-Based Content?

Me again. Where would I look for help on inserting date-based content on the home page? Like, a 'this day in history' box or a 'it's such-and-such character's birthday!' box. It's hard to phrase this in searches because I just end up getting results for adding different types of date formatting. Do I have to cook up some forbidden magic or do I just not know the right official term to search? (getting a random page of the day is not the function I'm looking for with this question, but if that exists I'd like to know about it too) Chantolove (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Do you mean something like:

a page that stores birthdays of every character
some code on the main page to show which character has birthday today

Or rather to show pages that are "tagged" with a certain date? It's surely possible but I'd need to know what exactly you need to help you further ^^

Xena (talk)

21:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

@Chantolove: I use Magic Words and create a template for each day
Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} → Template:September 27
As I don't have a template for everyday, I include default message to avoid "this template does not exist"

{{#ifexist: Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}
| Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}
| No events today
}}

PercyUK (talk) 07:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Ooh, that's wonderful! Tysm!! I'll try my best to get that to work :> Chantolove (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Working fine, I just had to tweak it to "{{Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}}}" in order to get the template contents to show.

Is the only way you know of to accomplish this by calling a template? It feels like I'm making a lot of pages for them each to have one or two lines of text on them. Is that just how things work round these parts? Chantolove (talk) 23:36, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@Chantolove: Create a switch template for each month imstead?

{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} would select the template
{{CURRENTDAY}} would select the day

Template:Birthdays List/September

{{#switch: {{{1}}}
|8  = Kanaya Mitarai
|21 = Rira Kanai
|23 = Ochiyo Inai
|27 = Hatsue Kozutsumi
|#default = No birthdays today
}}

On your page

{{Birthdays List/{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}|{{CURRENTDAY}}}}

PercyUK (talk) 10:29, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Issues with ProofreadPage and displaying transcribed books

I am hoping someone can provide some information regarding this issue, which I only noticed because I wanted to start up my transcribing projects again after a lengthy break.

I use the ProofreadPage extension and this has worked well in the past. Now there are missing tabs (previous, next and image tabs) and the side by side text and image page is now missing the image from the .djvu file as seen here on this random page Page:The_British_Blockade.djvu/12.

In addition to this, when all these pages are transcribed, they spliced together to form a complete document using the <pages> tag, such as: <pages index="The British Blockade.djvu" from=5 to=14 /> But, I keep getting an error: Error:No such file as seen on this page The British Blockade

Can someone shed some light if this has something to do with the latest updates causing this problem. If this no longer works, there has been a lot of transcribing work in the past wasted.

Thanks for any advice. Borderman ^(Talk) 10:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki?

Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki? If anyone of you are feminine and are into women's fashion. That wiki is the place to be. You can feel free to change the rules to say whatever you want. So, if any of you're wanting that. You can do that on there, but leave most of it the same. Unless, you feel like it needs surious correction. Kew1119 (talk) 02:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't think it's a good idea to offer the reins of what appears to be your personal wiki to anyone who asks Chantolove (talk) 23:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Columns For Beginners? (possible misuse of col-break template)

I am trying to use the "col-begin", "col-end", and "col-break" functions found here on the template wiki. This is happening. It's displaying a bunch of code junk from the col-break thing. All I'm trying to do is two equally-sized columns, and that part's not even working T_T Should I be using some different template

I've copied the 'col-begin', 'col-end', and 'col-break' templates into their own pages on my wiki exactly as they're used in the source code on Templates, minus the line about documentation. Chantolove (talk) 00:09, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

@Chantolove: The templates include class= requiring to add the relevant code into MediaWiki:Common.css
I prefer to create a basic template which I can easily change

Template:2Col

{| width="100%"
|- valign="top"
| width="50%" |
<!-- LEFT COLUMN -->
{{{left column|}}}

| width="50%" |
<!-- RIGHT COLUMN -->
{{{right column|}}}
|}

On the page

{{2Col
 | left column  = left column text
 | right column = right column text
}}

PercyUK (talk) 11:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

tysm!! Chantolove (talk) 03:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

The new version of the photo is not displayed

On my wiki new version of photo files is not displayed on pages. The old version is shown on thumbnails instead of new, even if old versions deleted. Cache deleting is not working. Thefirstdarkness (talk) 08:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Can you try:

Viewing the images in a different resolution like [[File:Example.png|123px]] (with your image name of course)
Viewing the pages on another device
Purging the pages with images

If any of this works, that means the images will update by themselves, they just need more time. Also, some browsers have a separate option to clear image cache, so there's a chance you didn't clear it.

Xena (talk)

14:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

How to get ParserFunctions StringFunctions enabled.

How do I get string function in the ParserFunctions extension enabled? I found a place tha an administrator needs to set $wgPFEnableStringFunctions = true; in LocalSettings.php. Is this where I ask for that? Thanks Lifelonglearner (talk) 00:00, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Lifelonglearner. You can enable $wgPFEnableStringFunctions in ManageWiki at Special:ManageWiki/settings. Happy editing! dross (t • c • g) 07:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Costume explore section.

Hello, I wanted to do a costume explore section on the CountryHumans Wiki, however I don’t know how to do it. Any suggestions? KumihoWolffey (talk) 19:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

The explore section is a part of top navigation of the Cosmos skin. You can customize the top navigation on MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation. See the Cosmos skin documentation for more details. Hope that helps! ^^

Xena (talk)

22:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

I'd like my account deleted (I'll explain why)

Hello. I was a former editor on the Miraheze "reception wikis", which consist of which are the best and worst. The negative ones are in particular controversial (which I won't explain), so I'd like my account to at least be deleted. I cannot change my username, I'd rather have it disappear until I can make a new one. I'm telling this mainly due to bad memories and regretting my contributions there, thank you! WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

I do know the negative one for TV shows in particular had an article named "celebt*rds" and implicitly defended Nickelodeon's most controversial creator (the guy behind Ren and Stimpy), but I won't provide any further context. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

It's impossible to delete accounts with MediaWiki. Stewards can lock and vanish your account, which can be requested on the Steward's noticeboard. Tali64³ (talk) 19:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

In addition to what Tali64³ have said , if you want to vanish your account according to the Data Request Process, please instead file a request at TSPortal, but not the Stewards’ noticeboard. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

@Tali64³ @Matttest I see. Can I have my username changed, instead? And is it against the rules to move an account out of bad memories + contributions on controversial wikis? WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

You can, check Changing username for more info. However, note that it is impossible to scrub your contributions out from a wiki and your username on edits and pages. Even if you request a vanish via TSPortal, it's impossible to remove edits. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@Agent Isai I see. P.S. are Miraheze accounts linked to MediaWiki? Because I also have one on Wikipedia, with the same username. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 07:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

I now requested a username change. I also added a reason that I no longer condone reception wikis for having implicitly right-leaning content. Feel free to change my signature all you want, I'm abandoning my old 2019 account after this since I don't want my old username tainted. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 07:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

@WannurSyafiqah74: You can request it here.Thank you. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:50, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Adding CSS Page Doesn't Work?

Trying to add a css page (shamelessly yoinked from wikipedia, admittedly- who knew colored textboxes would be such a quest), but it doesn't work. It just shows up as plain code. I don't have permission to use changecontentmodel on my site, either. Chantolove (talk) 04:01, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Chantolove. Sorry you're having so much trouble with this. The CSS you're trying to use relies on the TemplateStyles extension. This can be enabled at Special:ManageWiki/extensions. In order to change the content model of the page, you'll first need to assign the editcontentmodel permission to the proper group for your wiki. You can do this with Special:ManageWiki/permissions. Once you have done this, the content model may be changed at Special:ChangeContentModel/Template:Divbox/styles.css. Happy editing! dross (t • c • g) 07:19, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

@Chantolove: As Wikipedia has millions of pages, its templates are complex to accommodate all the needs. As your wiki will use it the same way, a basic system can be used:

create Template:Divbox
create Template:Divbox/styles.css (as I use Lua → Module:Divbox/styles and Module:Divbox for the switch)

My alternative → Test Wiki
PercyUK (talk) 17:17, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Thoughts on combining them with the 2col template to fill the whole space? Or do I need to hunt for a more advanced way to have larger boxes Chantolove (talk) 23:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

@Chantolove: Template:2Col style (background color) and content (No birthdays today) needs to be separated. The color schemes are stored in {{#invoke:divbox|color|<colorname>}} I have edited Template:2Col which gives it flexibilty and an example on New header testing.
PercyUK (talk) 06:56, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Are reception wikis banned from being created?

I noticed in the farmer logs that some reception wiki requests were declined. Are they banned? Nidoking (talk) 12:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

No but they are subject to higher scrutiny due to the nature of them. Direct recreations of closed reception wikis are not allowed at the moment as they'd constitute a direct fork of a project which is prohibited by the Content Policy. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 13:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

But once the wikis disappear, would it be possible to recreate them here. Or move them over to a different wiki service that uses MediaWiki Nidoking (talk) 16:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

You can move these wikis whenever to another host, we aren't stopping you. The database dumps are available on Qualitipedia Central. Agent Isai ^{Talk to me!} 16:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

It would be possible to recreate them after the six month period passes and the wikis are permanently deleted, but that of course would be subject to them respecting the Content Policy. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Just realized The New Reception Wiki is now banned/closed. So I believe they are actually banned from Miraheze... Nidoking (talk) 12:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

It was closed by Reception123 for being mostly a clone of Qualitipedia's content, not necessarily because it was a reception wiki. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 13:23, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

@Nidoking: Indeed, ZeusDeeGoose is right. Creating reception wikis is not banned. Creating clones/forks of the ones that were closed following a community vote is however not allowed because they are direct forks of those wikis and that is not allowed by the Content Policy. Do note that that was the will of the Qualitipedia network/community. The only way the content from these wikis can be revived on Miraheze is either waiting until the other ones are permanently deleted or creating a new RfC which has already been tried and has been rejected. New reception wikis are allowed but the same exact content being copied isn't. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

issues connecting to some my wikis

This might just be a temporary thing, but wikis such as Pokemon Wiki, Nintendo Wiki, and DQ Wiki are returning "Connection refused (db121)" errors Bawitdaba (talk) 10:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

db121 was temporarily down today, but it is now back up. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh i see now, thank you Bawitdaba (talk) 12:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

How to change the side menu

Andrey Eduardovich (talk) 09:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Instructions at Manual:Interface/Sidebar and on your wiki at MediaWiki:Sidebar --Rob Kam (talk) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Does not work. You can see what code I have on this page, and the srt shows me in the side menu

https://parliamentarismrus.miraheze.org/wiki/mediawiki:sidebar Andrey Eduardovich (talk) 18:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Contributions footer

I would like to add a contributions footer to my wiki, like the one on Meta. How would I do this? ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 18:53, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

A Steward will need to handle this request, as $wgMaxCredits requires managewiki-restricted. Which wiki is this request for? dross (t • c • g) 07:34, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

The Legend of Dark Witch Wiki ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 10:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Actually, $wgMaxCredits doesn't seem to fit what I want to do. I would like to add the thing on the bottom of the contributions page (picture below). ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 11:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer --坑触可 (talk) 12:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 12:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Damn, there are so many system messages :p -- Bukkit^{[cetacean needed]} 09:37, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Qualitipedia topic ban and user conduct

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

I start by pointing out that this discussion should have taken place on Meta:Administrators' noticeboard as it concerns measures to be taken locally on Meta by local sysops/bureaucrats and not global actions which is what CN is for. Therefore, I am closing this in my capacity as bureaucrat. A further observation is that, as Raidarr suggested in the comments, it would have been preferable for local sysops to have been contacted about Blubabluba9990's behavior so they could have warned them from continuing it and possibly imposed a topic ban without the need for a community discussion. This should be kept in mind before opening future topic ban proposals like this without any prior warning as it is unusual for the community to dictate specific measures like this which are usually left to administrator discretion. That being said, there is overwhelming and unanimous support (except for Blubabluba9990) for Proposals 1 and 2 and it seems necessary to implement them as soon as possible in order to prevent the behavior that is clearly not desired by the community from continuing. Therefore Proposals 1 and 2 are successful and the topic and interaction bans begin as of now. Proposal 1.1 is not succesful. Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

It has become clear since the announcement of the closure of Qualitipedia on Miraheze that many Qualitipedia community members continue to maintain a strong attachment to the projects. Unfortunately, through several warnings, Blubabluba9990 has continued to insist that the closure be overturned and/or Qualitipedia users be allowed to create forks or clones of existing Qualitipedia projects. This extreme attachment, while not inherently disruptive, have become not only annoying, but disruptive from this user. Blubabluba9990 has also consistently refused to take a wikibreak.

Some users have also responded to this behavior inappropriately. I am proposing that the community impose appropriate bans for these users to ensure collaborative community interactions between users and topics. dross (t • c • g) 04:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 1 (Qualitipedia topic ban for Blubabluba9990)

Blubabluba9990 is forbidden from discussing Qualitipedia on Miraheze Meta, except when requesting technical assistance with existing content on Qualitipedia projects listed at List of wikis or Qualitipedia central.

Support (1)

It is unnecessary and disruptive for these conversations about Qualitipedia to continue to occur on Meta. Dumps and the technical assistance required to use exported content should remain as it already has. dross (t • c • g) 04:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Strongest support Overly long conversations about QP on Miraheze Meta is not only disruptive, but also completely unnecessary (this include me posting unnecessary crap to Bluba's talk page). Notable exceptions to this are technical assistance on using exported content from these wikis. TF3RDL ^{(talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia)} 11:10, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support I'm with the others on this; it's time for others to move on. I'm not as knowledgeable on Qualitipedia like some the others (as I was never a core part of that community). Whether they establish a reception wiki outside of Miraheze is their decision (and perhaps their burden to bear if drama follows them there, they lose respect from others who agreed to the closures, etc.). Over here (in a divided vote) others ultimately agreed to close it, and there's no point in revisiting the same subject several times. Bawitdaba (talk) 11:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Strongest support I've given this kid the benefit of the doubt here, but he's been testing our patience for so long that it's practically unavoidable. At this point, my patience on this user has just ran out. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 12:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support This ought to help him end his obsession and find something productive to do. Marxo Grouch (talk) 14:40, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
This is productive though. Even though not much progress has been made on the revival, there is discussion of possibly reopening NRW and starting the pages over from scratch there, though that discussion seems to have come to a dead end. Also, I am the de facto vice president of the Qualitipedia Government in Exile and thus partially responsible for the day to day affairs of the Qualitipedia remnants. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support KumihoWolffey, Aka CameralTea (talk) 18:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support Okay, every time I try to give another opening for sanity it seems to be squandered with more railing and more demonstrated inability to tackle subject matter in a way that doesn't make a mess, so I'm going to + this and recommend thoughts of a more permanent solution perhaps by RfC to ensure the involved wikis have absolutely no future on the platform as well since there is still leeway for them to be resurrected as closed. --Raidarr (talk) 23:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
NOǃ DO NOT DO THATǃ The wikis need to be savedǃ The Qualitipedia Government in Exile shall prevailǃǃǃ Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
what -- Bukkit^{[cetacean needed]} 23:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Raidarr suggested that the wikis be barred from returning on the platform, but he should not do that. Also I suggested forming a Qualitipedia Government in Exile consiting of the remnants of Qualitipedia and all of the users who still want Qualitipedia to continue. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Why? The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 23:57, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
I don't knowǃ Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
If you don't know why you formed the "government in exile" as you put it, then you probably aren't one to speak for the community. Marxo Grouch (talk) 14:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
No I meant I don't know why Raidarr wants to ban the wikis from returning to the platform. I formed the Government in Exile to continue Qualitipedia's legacy. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:50, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Spare me the all cap bolded prepubescence. Perhaps a meta admin action to cut this down at the roots is the better idea. --Raidarr (talk) 23:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Noǃ Do not cut this down at the roots. You will never stop the Qualitipedia Government in Exile. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Right now the Qualitipedia Government in Exile may just be a ragtag team of former Qualitipedia users, but someday we shall return Qualitipedia to its former glory and it will be the future of entertainment. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

It's amazing how you don't realize how demented your made-up concepts of 'government' and endless obsession with the wikis actually sounds. The more you post the more you are fueling the reason why it should be ejected permanently from the platform, and from the internet in general. Utterly cringeworthy. --Raidarr (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
It isn't made up. Though the QGE may not be much right now, someday Qualitipedia will return in some other form to its former glory and become the future of entertainment. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:52, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
I will say what others have been telling you once again: there is no way that something as niche as reception wikis can change the future of entertainment. It's extremely silly to think that considering how it attracts too many opinionated people and the generally negative reputation of reception wikis. Marxo Grouch (talk) 21:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Well someday it will be the future of entertainment, even if now the wikis are closed and the remaining loyal users have formed the Qualitipedia Government in Exile. They will change the future of entertainment by acting as a guide for what to do and what not to do in terms of entertainment. That was FreezingTNT's original idea for the rebrand and it still holds up even though the wikis are currently closed. Either we start from scratch on The New Reception Wiki or another wiki and work our way up (or import the dumps once the current wikis are deleted) or sometime before the wikis get deleted I will make an RfC to reopen the wikis. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:09, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
or give up The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 23:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Noǃ I will never give up on Qualitipediaǃ Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
sorry to say this, but on the entryway discord, they already banned anything related to QP. You need to be Godwhackers. Also, this isnt gonna help your case. LovingHaydeL (talk) 03:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, because the future of entertainment is a bunch of numbered lists. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 06:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

In the future, refrain from typing in all caps. It makes you sound like you're yelling, and that won't get you anywhere. The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 23:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

that is sus. LovingHaydeL (talk) 19:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Support The disruptiveness of Bluba constantly wanting Qualitipedia to reopen is absolutely unproductive. Everything ends at some point; some good, some bad, but in the end, the only thing that matters is how you spent your life, and if you spent your entire life on Qualitipedia, I feel bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bukkit (talk • contribs)
Support per above. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Support Yes. I also agree with Raidarr that an RfC could eventually be done to ban these wikis from again returning to the platform. Universal Omega (talk) 02:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I would be interested as well. The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 13:05, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I'd be in support of that too. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 15:13, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Support per all of the comments LovingHaydeL (talk to me uwu!) 20:55, 2 October 2022 (PST)
Support On the one hand, coming from more 'new-school' communities has made me admittedly take a distant interest in this. Like, on any other platform, this guy might have just got banned or shunned for being basically the only one fighting so fiercely with not only the Top Dogs but literally everyone on such a big community issue. It's been a strange display of the kind of community y'all have got going on here, I think it's really something positive to be said about this space that dissent and differing opinions can be put up with so gracefully and bureaucratically by nearly everyone involved. I might be speaking too nicely here, I haven't been paying the most attention, but like. compared to Twitter y'all are saints On the other hand, there's always such a thing as 'too far'. I don't know anything about the Greater Qualitipedia Drama, so I can't say anything about the types of people who frequent it, but from what I've gathered, I think a ban on the topic of these wikis would be appropriate, but I can't say one way or another about a ban for the primary user involved. That being said, I'm used to 'if someone's been banned, you don't continue to make everything about them once they're gone' as pretty basic rules-wise haha Chantolove (talk) 04:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Strongest support This dude has been making me mad since 2020 on the Encyclopedia SpongeBobia. Me and MarioMario456 have been trying to get him off these wikis multiple times last year and besides that, he has this horrible obsession with the wikis. If it weren't for him being globalled on Fandom, he wouldn't be doing this and plus, the fact he always gets the staff involved in his block annoys me as well. You know how much the users hate him but this steward appealing thing avoids it. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 11:18, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Strongest support I personally believe they should be topic banned from talking about Qpedia as it has grown to the point of being a disruptive obsession. This obsession is very unhealthy. I have had enough of Blubba's disruption on Meta. Eytirth (talk) 13:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose (1)

Strongest oppose Where else am I supposed to discuss the issues going on? Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Perhaps Whiki Bawitdaba (talk) 15:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
But where on Whiki. The wikis may not even be revived on Whiki and there is still discussion on Agent Isai's talk page to reopen NRW and revive the current wikis. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

You can request your own wiki here. Tali64³ (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
There also doesn't seem to be a revival on Whiki given that FatBurn, who is in charge of the Qualitipedia Government in Exile, does not want the wikis to be imported off of Miraheze and instead wants to start the pages over from sratch on The New Reception Wiki, assuming it ever reopens. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Under the provisions of the ban, you would still be welcome to discuss any technical concerns, especially related to moving the content to a new wiki or platform. It would prohibit, for example, discussion of the closure of Qualitipedia wikis or a "need" to preserve/reopen such projects, as such proposals have already been officially denied or found in violation of consensus/policy. dross (t • c • g) 18:10, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Well they overlap, which makes this problematic, since I kind of need to bring up their closure to discuss moving them. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:24, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Frankly, if you can't figure out how to discuss taking dumps and moving them to a new wiki without bringing up the old QP community/wikis, that's your own problem. "I'm going to download a dump of wiki QPX, and import it here" does not require any reference to the closure RfC or any previous members. dross (t • c • g) 18:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
There is overlap. It is impossible to discuss Qualitipedia's future without mentioning Qualitipedia. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
This is not an outright ban of mentions of Qualitipedia. This restricts your discussion on Meta to technical questions about Qualitipedia only. dross (t • c • g) 22:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
But then how will I discuss issues on Qualitipedia. We are going full circle. How will I talk about Qualitipedia's future without talking about what happened on Qualitipedia. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
There are tons of reception wikis where you can discuss Qualitipedia's future. There is even a wiki about reception wikis that exists, named Reception Wikis Wiki. The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 23:59, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Well there's an easy answer to this: I guess you don't. You drop it and move on. --Raidarr (talk) 11:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Noǃ I will never give up on Qualitipediaǃ Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
good luck The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 19:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Abstain (1)

Comments (1)

The big problem is that I think this preceeds having a proper meta admin step-in to say 'woah cool off' and warning to minimize the issue. We're going from no warning to high community sanction. I'd like to see that warning take place, only then followed by topic bans - especially since a large portion of the comments are taking place on Bluba and Fatburn's talk pages, which should be entirely acceptable. That said I'm not fond of when it spills to central noticeboards. But again, that's where the warning/advisory comes in first. I do understand the frustration that made this come about. --Raidarr (talk) 13:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Ordinarily, I agree. I have been rather surprised that we have not yet seen such a warning, which I believe is contrary to community expectation. I would hope this can be characterized as a bold community action in the absence of expected admin action. It's more cooperative than it is to undermine admins. dross (t • c • g) 18:15, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 1.1 (Topic ban satellites)

Blubabluba9990 is forbidden from discussing Qualitipedia on the Miraheze Discord server, Miraheze IRC channels, and Phabricator.

Support (1.1)

There is no good reason to allow the discussion to continue on other Miraheze channels. dross (t • c • g) 04:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 12:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support If it's to be forbidden here, it should be forbidden in other parts of Miraheze as well. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:01, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose (1.1)

Strongest oppose I don't have a discord anyway, so this is kind of pointless. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
I will second above as Bluba is not present on any of the mentioned places and never struck me as willing to reach out to them. For phabricator especially it would be just plain off topic to be an issue and can be handled normally. --Raidarr (talk) 13:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Oppose Pointless as Bluba has not accessed any of the places mentioned in the proposal. Marxo Grouch (talk) 14:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Oppose per Raidarr and others. Tali64³ (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Oppose Per bluba's comments and others LovingHaydeL (talk to me uwu!) 13:21, 2 October 2022 (PST)
Oppose The disruptiveness mainly occurs on metawiki, where there isn't much of a designated place for off-topic discussion, where as on Discord/IRC, there are #miraheze-offtopic channels. Discussion on Phabricator would be extremely disruptive and would most likely result in a warning and/or account being disabled on there. Even if Bluba were to make an account and join the server, as long as he's not disruptive, I don't see any reasons to ban him from discussing about Qualitipedia. -- Bukkit^{[cetacean needed]} 23:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Oppose The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 00:01, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Abstain (1.1)

Abstain as there's not really a point if he doesn't use it, but if he decides to start after coming to dead ends on here, then this should be reconsidered. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Abstain I see this proposal as pointless if they are not on there. Universal Omega (talk) 02:16, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Abstain They don't appear to use other platforms, so no need to ban now, but I would move this to support if they start their obsessive disruption on other Miraheze platforms. Eytirth (talk) 14:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Comments (1.1)

Proposal 2 (Interaction ban for TF3RDL & Blubabluba9990)

Users TF3RDL and Blubabluba9990 are forbidden from interacting with each other on Miraheze Meta as described at WP:IBAN. Interactions off Meta which result in conflict should be construed as ban evasion.

Support (2)

Support The only contributions of TF3RDL on Meta have been to antagonize Blubabluba9990, and are primarily speaking on missing authority and extremely out of turn.^{Examples: 1 2 3 4} dross (t • c • g) 04:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Now I realize that my interactions with Bluba is very disruptive (mini-modding, comparing him to a MOAB Glue and unnecessarily requesting for global ban on him), which is inconsistent with WP:DENY. Because of this, I will accept indefinite partial blocks (preventing me from editing his talk page). TF3RDL ^{(talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia)} 11:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support This whole debacle between him and Bluba is getting out of hand beyond any reasonable doubt here. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:37, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 12:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
I sincerely apologize for my obsession with getting Bluba blocked (which is disruptive and I should refrain from doing that) and a MOAB Glue (which is from BTD6/BTDB2, therefore absolutely nothing to do with your disruptive behavior). I've shouldn't respond to @Blubabluba9990 for getting you blocked or even globally locked, nor requesting a global ban for you. TF3RDL ^{(talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia)} 18:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm still confused why you're always talking about glue? -- Bukkit^{[cetacean needed]} 23:38, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Oh I realized saying MOAB Glue in regards to my response to Bluba's behavior is not only disruptive but also expletive as the Glue Gunner doesn't exist in real-life. TF3RDL ^{(talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia)} 10:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
I'm a Kirby fan and you don't see me making comparisons to things related to Kirby during serious discussions, do you? Stuff like that it bound to confuse people, not to mention how unprofessional it is. Marxo Grouch (talk) 19:06, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, so true as making comparisons to fictional characters on serious discussions is not only pointless but it also tends to pollute the Google Search results with unrelated crap (just like Reddit posts with only few upvotes and little to no meaningful comments pollutes the search results). I deeply sorry for making pointless or outright disruptive comparisons on serious discussions and I'll refrain from doing that as it only makes irrelevant search results worse. TF3RDL ^{(talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia)} 02:58, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Weak support Per above in preferring a proper oversight warning, and since the initial pushback TF3 has toned down his approach. However he's gone an extra mile overall and I am somewhat concerned. This would be a reasonable step. --Raidarr (talk)
Support From what I've seen of the beef between these two, this has gotten out of hand. An interaction ban should suffice. Marxo Grouch (talk) 14:44, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Strongest support He has tried to bet Bluba blocked numerous times, even making a RfC just to ban him. He crossed the line when he told everyone he deserved to be blocked when the topic was about HIS YOUTUBE CHANNEL, that it forced me to tell him to stop. With this, it's better if they stay apart. LovingHaydeL (talk to me uwu!) 7:47, 2 October, 2022 (PST)
Support The disputes between these users have gotten out of control. Tali64³ (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Support per above. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Support Universal Omega (talk) 02:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Strongest support Ridiculous comparisons to unrelated crap on serious discussions including Bluba's talk page, invalid/baseless global ban RfC I've made and begging for a block of Blubabluba9990 on non-QP wikis are why WP:DENY is useful for this situation (to avoid further conflicts and disruption) and I have sins (obsession with getting Bluba blocked or even globally locked). Granted that Bluba's unhealthy obsession with QP are so concerning a topic ban are warranted. TF3RDL ^{(talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia)} 05:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Strongest support This drama needs to stop and these disputes need to stop. This would be a good way of stopping it. Eytirth (talk) 14:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose (2)

Abstain (2)

Comments (2)

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