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Remove the colored background from my wiki?

Hello, someone could tell me how to remove the grey background from my wiki: https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/
I deleted my entire MediaWiki:Common.css code, without success. Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 16:00, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

You may have to wait a while as it takes a bit of time to update. If it still persists, clear the cache of your browser. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 16:32, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
@ZeusDeeGoose: I did it several times, and I changed the code twenty minutes ago. Darkrai18 (talk) 16:44, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Try purging the cache. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 16:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
@ZeusDeeGoose: I just told you I've done it several times. Darkrai18 (talk) 16:55, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
I meant on the wiki. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 16:59, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
@ZeusDeeGoose: Well yes, on the wiki. Darkrai18 (talk) 17:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
I didn't see anything incorrect on the wiki, I believe it has been resolved. — Pixial [Talk] 02:06, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Drawn Feet Wiki: possible block evasion

To Tycio and DeltaRuneFan2001, I have ample reason to believe that Lucario448 is a block-evading sockpuppet of Ceadeus, as the former is continuing the latter's uploading of images with no feet showing. I have no choice but to take this here, as I am blocked on the wiki and cannot edit my own talk page. ThisWas (talk) 20:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I took care of that, and for an extra bonus, I deleted more of his pictures because he is apparently Mew according to CherryFeet. - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 02:26, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Could you gather some evidence? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:30, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Unable to edit permissions/settings/extensions

On the extensions, core settings, and permission pages I am unable to edit any of them even though I'm the owner.

They are all grayed-out buttons and whenever a user or visitor goes onto any of the wiki pages (aside from Main Page), it just shows this:


You do not have permission to read this page, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Bureaucrats, Members, Administrators.


I need this fixed ASAP. Thanks. Raidz (talk) 22:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)raidzxd

Can you give a link to the wiki you own? MacacoKouhai (talk) 22:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Here: mystanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Raidz (talk) 22:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Ah! It is because you can no longer make further configurations due to some T&S investigation https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=752885. MacacoKouhai (talk) 22:39, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Hmm, that's weird. Is there any possible reason to know why this is happening or when it will be over? Raidz (talk) 22:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
I don't know. Maybe you can try contacting User:Doug (Miraheze) or User:Mysterion5361 privately. MacacoKouhai (talk) 22:54, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. Raidz (talk) 23:05, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Forminput box not appearing on mobile

Hello!

When I check my site on mobile, the forminput box and "Create or edit" button does not appear on my form pages. You can check this here.

Can someone help me figure out why and help me fix this?

Thanks! ParentRatings (talk) 01:28, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

I've tested on other browsers and other devices, and it sometimes works. I assume this has to do with how they implement JavaScript. The one place I cannot get it to work on is my android device using Chrome. I double checked and JavaScript is enabled. Is mobileview always this finnicky? Is there a way to make this better? I assume that an android device using Chrome is going to be a very common combination and want to be able to get my site working for those users. Thanks for any assistance. ParentRatings (talk) 23:10, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
I've tried looking up more about MobileFrontEnd and the MinervaNeue skin, but haven't found anything useful. My form is also having trouble displaying divs when show on select is applied. On mobile, all divs are shown regardless of what is selected or not (and the spinning wheel is always present), and on desktop some divs are selectively not showing. I'm getting pretty lost and don't know what even to Google search next. You can check out what is happening on this page. Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ParentRatings (talk) 23:08, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
I've discovered that the desktop view on mobile does not have these problems. If anyone knows of a way to use MobileFrontEnd with MinervaNeue and have the input boxes show and the show on select divs hide when not selected, I would be much obliged, but for now I can switch all mobile users to the desktop view.
I am skill having trouble with some show on select divs not showing when they are selected and would appreciate another set of eyes to see what I am missing. Thanks! ParentRatings (talk) 00:29, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
After various tests, I discovered that using show on select within two different input fields pointing to the same div will cause mediawiki to hide those divs unless both inputs are selected. This has solved my other issue. ParentRatings (talk) 06:12, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

XP4Ever WIKI gone

The XP4Ever Wiki that used to be available at: https://xpforever.miraheze.org is no longer there. What happened?

I see it was closed because of inactivity, which is sad news. An abandoned Wiki is as useful a repository of knowledge as an live one, especially when the subject is a old operating system. Can it be reinstated to the joy of retrocomputing enthusiasts? In fact, I am writing this from Windows XP!

Can you perhaps bring it back up for a short period so that I may archive it, or—even better—let me download an archive of this Wiki? 94.79.3.84 09:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Per Special:DeletedWikis, XP4Ever was created on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:37:50 GMT, and deleted on Thu, 21 Jul 2022 13:05:13 GMT. Perhaps a steward can help you out at Requests for reopening wikis? Or better yet, try contacting original bureaucrat Xack wherever else he's active. --Routhwick (talk) 09:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
P.S. Xack should have made a dormancy exemption beforehand. --Routhwick (talk) 09:29, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
The wiki is merged into Retro Windows Wiki. As the only bureaucrat Xack have declared to leave, the wiki is now at a no bureaucrat status and is currently managed by stewards. Any local election for applying the bureaucrat status is welcomed, but do note the sitenotice there, in which a registered account is required to request rights, as well as contributions are need to shown investment to the wiki in order to apply for admin rights. -Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 11:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback, guys. Is there any practical reason to revive XP4Ever if, as you say and I have checked, it has been integrated into Retro Windows Wiki? 94.79.3.84 12:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Request to import images from angrybirds.fandom.com to angrybirds.miraheze.org

Hello! Can someone please import the images from angrybirds.fandom.com to angrybirds.miraheze.org? The wiki looks better with the images. Reece2o19 (talk) 07:15, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

@Reece2o19: I'm sure someone will assist you sooner or later. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:39, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
If you already have folder of images taken from Fandom wiki, you should make a task on Phabricator about image import, so system administrator will see it and perform it, see here: Moving a wiki to Miraheze#Have us do it
KatozzKita (talk) 06:49, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
I unfortunately do not have all the pictures from the wiki. Reece2o19 (talk) 15:51, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Unfortunately, you must download all images manually. Fandom doesn't allow you to scrape images automatically. From a personal experience, it sucks. If you need someone to help you with the images, I can. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 04:05, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Ok. Reece2o19 (talk) 05:15, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

How to add a feature from Wikipedia to Miraheze?

I am writing a fake biography of a footballer/soccer player. On Wikipedia, there is a feature called "infobox footballer biography" which allows you to put stats about said person's career. However when I tried to use that on my wiki that I'm working on, it didn't work and nothing happened. It said the template wasn't found. Is there anyway to add a feature from Wikipedia to Miraheze? Or something similar?

Thanks in advance. TheNeditor355748 (talk) 13:00, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Import Template:Infobox footballer biography from Wikipedia and include all templates. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 14:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, but can you please explain how to actually import a template from Wikipedia? Like step by step, if possible. TheNeditor355748 (talk) 15:40, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
It is a very complicated and long process. You would have to go to Wikipedia's Special:Export and put the titles of the infoboxes you want, download, go to your wiki's Special:Import and upload the file. However, that's all your infobox will come unformatted. As I said, it's much more than that, it's complicated to understand. — Pixial [Talk] 02:03, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Creating a background out of repeating images

So I'm trying to make a background with repeating titles. This is the image I am using.
File:WikiBackground.jpg
How would I go about doing this? ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 03:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Nevermind, found it out. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 05:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Infobox template error

Hello I made an infobox template here: https://tennislibrary.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Tennis Player that has an extra end script )) appearing on the top left side of the page, I've tried finding where the error is, but unfortunatley my eye sight even with glasses is pretty bad. If anyone knows how to fix it I'd be very grateful, as its appearing on player bio pages ive created many thanks. Admiral Marcus (talk) 04:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Fixed :-) PercyUK (talk) 07:19, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Thank you very much just seen it now whilst working on a new page. Admiral Marcus (talk) 09:47, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Make a sub-section disappear when it is empty?

The title is certainly not clear, so I will explain.
On this model: https://thebatman.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Character, the "Appearances" section is empty, but the header still exists, which bothers me. So, I would like the header of the sub-section to disappear when it is empty, and to reappear when there is something inside (Movies, TV Series, ect).
Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 12:25, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

@Darkrai18:
| header7 = {{#if: {{{movies|}}}{{{series|}}}{{{comics|}}}{{{books|}}}| <small><center>Appearances</small></center> }}
PercyUK (talk) 13:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. Darkrai18 (talk) 13:48, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

New Request for Comments draft

Hi everyone, I have published a draft RfC on the establishment of Global rollbackers. I invite everyone to share their comments and opinions on it here. Thanks! Agent Isai Talk to me! 22:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

TheTopTens

I remember discussing why I couldn't use this as a source as it was blocked by the spam filter when I tried to use it. I was told it had been blacklisted and that if I wanted to change that, I should create an RFC. However, I cannot find the discussion. Does anyone know where the discussion is, and more importantly, whether or not this information is true (as in, it is blacklisted and I should create an RFC if I want to change that)? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 10:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

The Spam Blacklist is managed by the Counter Vandalism Team exclusively so an RfC would mandating a change would be overly blunt. If you have any suggestions for CVT regarding the spam blacklist, feel free to start a discussion on the Stewards' noticeboard. Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
@Agent Isai: Okay, but can you verify the URL thetoptens.com is being blocked somehow? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 20:56, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
I vaguely remember people discussing about TheTopTens, but I believe it's already blocked somehow? (Correct me if I am wrong about that.) --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:38, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Recap from Stewards' noticeboard/Archive 31#Question:
  • "TheTopTens was banned from being linked to as it is full of abuse and unmoderated." (RhinosF1)
  • Reception123:
    • "[W]e have considered the fact that the community doesn't want wikis to be able to link to an abusive and unmoderated website."
    • "Creating pages about TheTopTens isn't banned, only using the actual link will be prevented (if I understood what you meant correctly)."
  • "[This site] is quite a spammy website and has been the source of numerous Content Policy issues, so as others have said, I would advise against it." (Dmehus)
  • "Specifically, it was added as a result of this [August 2020] discussion for hosting harassment towards Miraheze users." (Chrs)
--Routhwick (talk) 22:26, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
@Agent Isai: Hello? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 20:32, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Global Sysops and opt-out - thoughts?

Before deciding whether to open a formal proposal I wish to gather the thoughts and opinions of the community on the question of Global Sysop opt-outs. Here is an extract from my vote in the current Global rollbackers RfC which explains the situation:

"I do not very much believe in the opt-out concept that exists for Global Sysops because of the fact that Global Sysops also enforce global policies so by having an opt-out wikis are able to restrain the people who are able to enforce policies. It is as if a city could "opt-out" from national police and only allow local police to enforce laws - it does not make much sense ... I strongly support any proposal to abolish the strict opt-out concept and instead replace it with a system where wikis can opt-out from enforcement of local policies (such as vandalism, local blocks, etc.) but cannot opt-out from enforcement of global policies under any circumstances". DeeM28 (talk) 06:47, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I think a limited opt out might make more sense for something like global rollbackers who better resemble platform minimods that may for whatever reason be undesirable in local affairs. I agree with the sentiment that when it becomes a global policy issue, opt out does not make sense. Even with vandalism it can reflect back on the platform.
I would say, the circumstances where a global sysop can really go all the way handling global policy are limited beyond account locks. More fine situations or enforcing wiki-wide consequence often requires Steward exclusive tools or advanced investigation. In those scenarios it's preferable to just bring in a steward who has the appropriate 'punch' to ensure results. But the steward activity issue is not gone, either. It's not a role to lean on too strongly. I'm finding myself slipping into a more 'doug role' of skipping time between actions as time goes on, activity wise. I'd like a degree of that responsibility to be available to GS, though we don't have the manpower to do that. So I only have observations, not a conclusion. --Raidarr (talk) 11:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
I'd say a balanced approach sounds better than the current situation where Global Sysops can be completely restricted. It's true that most of the time for global policy violations they're complex enough to need Stewards but I myself as Global Sysop have handled a lot of issues like CoC violations or copyright violations so I do think that such issues shouldn't be opted out of. Reception123 (talk) (C) 12:53, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Even with vandalism it can reflect back on the platform. This is why there is no Steward action opt out. Even GSysOps are a form of "minimods". If an opt-out community is truly negligent to the degree that it affects or threatens the wider Miraheze community or image, Steward intervention is still discretionary. dross (tcg) 22:20, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
To come back to this, an option with more nuance may be to allow Stewards to revoke opt-outs on wikis which have had in the past issues with respecting global policies. DeeM28 (talk) 11:32, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Permission request to access Miraheze.org (basic)

Hi there. I am having trouble figuring out how to gain access to read/view the Ark Omega Miraheze.org pages. I could access them originally, but now I keep getting the following message:

Permission error You do not have permission to read this page, for the following reason:

The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Confirmed users, Members, Administrators.

Please advise how I might gain access to view these pages. Thanks.

WillyQuick777 (talk) 16:31, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

That means that the wiki was made private. You'll have to contact the administrators on why that is. Agent Isai Talk to me! 16:33, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Bot accounts

How do you add bot accounts? Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:14, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to note that Meta:Requests for permissions is for asking for rights on this wiki so unless you're asking for rights on this wiki, that's the wrong page to request things.
To add bot rights to a user on your wiki, go to Special:UserRights and assign the bot flag to the bot. Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:29, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Oh. Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
My wiki is still in review. Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Its called Animevortex. if you want to approve it. Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:43, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Request to add the graph and kartographer extension to imt.miraheze.org

I would like to enable graph and maps embeding in imt.miraheze.org. I've turned on the pre-required extensions jsonconfig and codeeditor. Can a steward make the necessary change in the configs? Thanks Uceppi (talk) 18:04, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

@Uceppi: What configuration change do you need? Agent Isai Talk to me! 02:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

How can I change the talk page to StructuredDiscussions-board

I am working on a wiki called DuchessDoesMiraheze Wiki and I wanted to add the StructuredDiscussions-board style on the user talk pages but it's not on the list so please help. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 20:34, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

@DuchessTheSponge: To do that, go to Special:ManageWiki/namespaces -> (Main) -> Talk and change the default content model of the page to StructuredDiscussions. Agent Isai Talk to me! 02:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks DuchessTheSponge (talk) 06:10, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Wait this is my exact problem since I tried that once but it's not on there. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 06:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
On some older pages, you'll need to manually change the content model via Special:ChangeContentModel Agent Isai Talk to me! 06:12, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

How do i rename my database?

I want to change my wiki name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teddythedev0 (talkcontribs) 15:36, 24 August 2022

@Teddythedev0: Please remember to sign your posts by adding ~~~~. To request a subdomain name change (changing the 'database' name), please make a request on Phabricator, thanks. Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:45, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Is it possible to Add RFCS?

If it is, How do you do it? Teddythedev0 (talk) 16:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

What is RFCS? Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
I mean RFC's Teddythedev0 (talk) 17:03, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
It is but why do you wish to make a new Request for Comments? Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:21, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Dunno? Teddythedev0 (talk) 11:47, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Wiki sidebar and icon dissapeared after adding custom CSS?

I've recently created my wiki and when I tried adding in custom CSS the wiki's sidebar and icon dissapeared. I have not touched anything related to either the sidebar or icon in the CSS file, so why are they gone? Bones404 (talk) 23:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

What's the URL to your wiki? Agent Isai Talk to me! 00:52, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
brutalorchestramodding.miraheze.org Bones404 (talk) 13:22, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

I can't upload files and edit in LGBTA+ Wiki

I can't upload files and edits in LGBTA+ wiki now.

This is what was displayed when I tried to upload a file:
Moderation
Success: your image has been sent to moderation.
Once approved, it will be visible to other users. TMNBFF (talk) 13:28, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

@TMNBFF: That means that that wiki's admins use the Moderation extension which means that an admin must approve your edit before it's published. Agent Isai Talk to me! 16:14, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Sort by Protection

Order of protection setting.png How can I reorder the various permissions in the protection settings? Kyou (talk) 04:48, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Please ask to Phabricator.Thank you. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 05:01, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Pictogram voting info.svg For non-Japanese speakersThe file shown is written in Japanese.Here are translated sentences.
全ての利用者のみに許可→"Allows only all users"
登録利用者のみに許可→"Allows only registered users"
自動承認された利用者のみに許可→"Allows only autoconfirmed users"
拡張承認された利用者のみに許可→"Allows only extended confirmed users"
管理者のみに許可→"Allows only sysops" by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 05:10, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
拡張承認された利用者と管理者に許可ではないですかね? Kyou (talk) 05:12, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Local interwiki administrator amendment proposal

Wiki Limit

Hi, I'm wondering — is there a limit to how many wikis one can register? Thank you! JamestheGreat (talk) 02:10, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi, though there is no limits on how many wikis you can request, you should have a clear scope of your wiki before you request one, and it should not violate the Content Policy. Additionally, if you have previously requested too much wikis that are unused, or request excess wikis with the same scope, it will not be tolerated. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 02:42, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Content Policy reform draft

Hi everyone,

Please note that myself and Agent Isai have drafted an RfC in order to reform the current Content Policy. We'd appreciate any feedback or comments about any of the proposals before opening it to voting. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:01, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

How to add a read only user to a wiki?

A wiki might want to include a read only user, for example for a user to access but not be able to edit a private wiki. Answering my own question: The easiest way to do this is to to do a sitewide block of the user. Then that user will still be able to read the wiki but will no longer be able to edit. Rob Kam (talk) 11:56, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

How about making another user group with the read right, but not the edit right? Tali64³ (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
You can also revoke edit rights from users who aren't supposed to edit (ex. (everyone), Users, Members), and then create another right with the permission to view and edit. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 17:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Sortable Table - Custom Order?

I am working on a large chart of fictional characters' birthdays. One of the columns I have is a field to input their zodiac sign. When I click to sort by zodiac, however, it goes alphabetically. This is a feature I can totally live without, but just in case- is there anything I can do to make it sort in the order of the zodiac instead? I have no idea if a custom value heirarchy is supported by default without crazy extension wizardry etc, but would 'put transparent ordering numbers in front of all the zodiac names' or something work lol Chantolove (talk) 19:37, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Chantolove: WikiMedia has a help page but no option. I use data-sort-value="number" numbering the zodiacs from 1 to 12. As you are creating a long chart you could create a template for each zodiac to quickly add

Template:Aries

data-sort-value="1"| Aries
PercyUK (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
worked perfectly!! tysmsmsm :] Chantolove (talk) 20:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Should the reception wikis shutdown on Miraheze.

<mainpage> tag not working

Hello. Im new to miraheze and i has bug thay literally kills the code. <mainpage> literally dont work and displayed as plain text. Maybe i need any extension? I cant give screenshot because it block miraheze! Please help me! Максим Фединов (talk) 20:46, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

If you moved over from Fandom then you have to enable the DummyFandoomMainpageTags extension at Special:ManageWiki/extensions -> Parser hooks. Agent Isai Talk to me! 03:04, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Many tags doesnt working

Hello what extensions i need for working tags <infobox>, <title source>, <default>, <format>, <group>, <header>, <label>? Thanks in advance User:Obossum721 (talk) 11:23, 13 September 2022 (MSK)

@Obossum721: Portable Infobox - PercyUK (talk) 09:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for help, but it doesnt work Obossum721 (talk) 09:39, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
@Obossum721: it's called PortableInfobox, it should be in "Parser hooks" tab. Bear in mind that such changes might take 5-10 minutes to actually start working, or you can manually purge pages to see them ("Purge" button is near "Edit", "History", etc). KatozzKita (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Extension was enabled at 9:39 (GMT+3), but 5 hours have already passed and nothing has changed, cache has been cleared 6 times Obossum721 (talk) 11:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
It is a translation issue. It is expecting wording to be in Russian but is English OR expecting wording to be in English but is Russian. I have created Шаблон:Stranosphere and <infobox> is working. - PercyUK (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
It was bag with tabing in end of template. How i can add image to infobox? Obossum721 (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Problems with templates

Hi. A template with a category in <includeonly> ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Stub ) works correctly, but in a template without a category ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Копипаста ) <br> appears below the main block ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Токугава ). What's the problem? Rairakkumee (talk) 13:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

WHEN I TRY TO CHANGE THE WIKI ICON THE SETTINGS RESET

WHEN I TRY TO CHANGE THE ICON (OR ANY OTHER SETTINGS) FOR MY WIKI, ONCE I SAVE THE SETTINGS AND RELOAD THE PAGE, THEY RESET :( Ghostie222 (talk) 05:53, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Chill out, dude. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 05:59, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
IM NOT YELLING ITS JUST HOW I TYPE! :] /G Ghostie222 (talk) 06:05, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
First, all-caps equals yelling, so you are choosing to yell. Second, did you purge the page so that it would pick up the new settings, or just reload the old page from the wiki cache? --Robkelk (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Fair dealing

I think there need to be a page on fair dealing because there's a new notice that notifies that in UK (Miraheze is based in said country), the country goes by fair dealing whereas for Americans like me we're used to fair use. From what I've gathered in this Wikipedia article, fair dealing applies to non-commercial study and research, though it has a limited application to things such as software & has to show how it applies. I run several video game-related wikis that use a lot of images that would, under U.S. law, qualify as fair use & need them to show how various character artwork, game screenshots, sprites, and so forth look like. My personal guess is that uploading media without caption or context is a violation of fair dealing, although I always strive to do add them for proper documentation.

Does anyone have any input on this? I feel there needs to be a user-friendly list of examples of what is allowed and what is not allowed. I think I'm okay, but a fair dealing page here would help minimize the risk of violating fair dealing, especially at the risk of wiki closure. Bawitdaba (talk) 12:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

This is something that should be included in a primer about how UK copyright law applies to Miraheze, in my opinion. "Fair Dealing" in the UK is different from "Fair Dealing" in Canada or "Fair Use" in the USA, so having a quick explanation and a short list of common cases would be useful. --Robkelk (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Yes -- I have stated to others before that I have set up U.S. fair use templates on my wiki before, although I've manually readded the UK fair dealing in my custom MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices, so there would be a bit of conflict.
I have wondered if the wikis I run recognize U.S. fair use while acknowledging that the host itself recognizes UK fair dealing due to being hosted within the UK, meaning that there cannot be conflict between the two & that fair dealing overrides fair use due to, again, where the location is hosted. If this is allowed I'd update the MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices accordingly. Perhaps I'd add that extra notice in Project:Copyrights because legal people are not likely to check Special:Upload Bawitdaba (talk) 13:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
The issue is quite complex since the UK only has case law about fair dealing but no statutory/clear definition of what it is. The best guide can be found on the UK Government webiste. While it may sound very vague it seems the main question is really just whether the use of the file in such a way is fair. While this isn't a legal opinion, I'd probably guess it can't be too far from the US definition of fair use (even though it is probably a bit stricter). Reception123 (talk) (C) 07:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
@Reception123: Would I be allowed to use U.S. fair use licensing templates on my wikis? I just ask because it would take all day for me to replace all of it to say "fair dealing." I can say in Project:Copyrights, MediaWiki:Uploadtext that although copyrighted files recognized under fair use, it cannot conflict with fair dealing due to Miraheze being based in the UK. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Name change please

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까?

message mix...

english + different speech = impossible

korea speech + ? = possible

i'm didn't know of 주문은 치노입니까 produce :(

주문은 치노입니까? produce trial's similar of impossible :(

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까? Name change ok?주문은 치노입니까 (talk) 04:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

@주문은 치노입니까: Hello.Do you mean it's your wiki's name?You can change it in "Special:Managewiki/core" if you're bureaucrat of the wiki or have "managewiki" permission. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:27, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
(Machine translation; 기계 번역) 사이트 이름을 변경하려면 "Special:ManageWiki/core"에서 변경할 수 있습니다. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)