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Translation administrator granted - 2022-11-6Edit

Hi, OrangeStar. An administrator on Meta has granted you the translationadmin user group permission, which gives you the ability to mark updated source pages for translation and prepare additional, untranslated pages for translation, among a few other permissions related to the administration of translated pages. You should also be aware that the granting of this user group is at the discretion of Meta administrators, so different administrators will have slightly different criteria for granting. Likewise, just as it is a discretionary appointment, revocation is also at the discretion of Meta administrators and, again, each will have their own criteria for revocation.

Nevertheless, the following are some of the main guidelines for translation administrators. If you follow these guidelines completely, it is unlikely your translation administrator user group should ever be revoked.

  • Don't mark or prepare pages too quickly. Administration of translation pages is handled by a system maintenance bot, FuzzyBot, whose tasks are handled by mwtask141. Accordingly, it is strongly recommended that you check FuzzyBot's recent edits and log actions to see when it has completed your request. A good rule of thumb is to wait approximately 5-10 minutes between marking pages
  • Noticeboards and talk pages should never be translated. Due to the dynamically changing nature of the content on these pages, translation of these pages is undesirable, so they should never be prepared for translation. If you note that a noticeboard is proposed for translation (i.e., pages which contain translation tags but which haven't yet been marked), it's best to remove the < and > characters from the given discussion thread(s) that note the example translation syntax, to remove the noticeboard or talk page from pages proposed for translation
  • Never remove a translated page from the translation system. This is not recommended, mainly because the translation page units (in Translations: namespace) remain. Instead, if you believe a page should no longer be translated, start a new thread at Meta:Administrators' noticeboard recommending the given translated subpage(s) for deletion by an administrator. Once all the translated subpage(s) have been deleted, then a page can be removed from the translation system
  • Make use of tvar and [[Special:MyLanguage]] tags. The former is especially helpful with translating the displayed text of wikilinks (including interwiki wikilinks) and external links, and the latter is particularly helpful where the linked destination page is translated into languages other than English
  • Consider the utility and usefulness before preparing new pages for translation. For example, additional untranslated pages in Tech: namespace aimed at explaining to system administrators how to perform certain procedures are unlikely to ever be read in languages other than English. A best practice here is to propose new pages for translation at Meta:Administrators' noticeboard and obtain consensus there to prepare the page
  • Ignore, generally, pages in userspace proposed for translation. Often these are userspace drafts contain translation tags. You can usually just ignore these. If in doubt, you can ask at Meta:Administrators' noticeboard
  • Bookmark this help page on MediaWiki.org. Aimed specifically at translation administrators like you, it contains very useful, well written information on the Translate extension's translation administration tools

In addition, a couple of technical limitations regarding the translationadmin user group:

  1. You cannot mark fully protected pages that have been updated. If you see such a page that needs to be re-marked, please leave a note on the user talk page of any administrator on Meta or at Meta:Administrators' noticeboard; and,
  2. You cannot delete translated subpages. Again, you can recommend long outdated and unmaintained translations, as well as poor translations, for deletion by leaving a note on the user talk page of any administrator on Meta or at Meta:Administrators' noticeboard

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Thank you! --Agent Isai Talk to me! 21:10, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This translation extension really is pretty feature complete. I'll try to read through the help page tomorrow. OrangeStar (talk) 21:18, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Notes on translating into SpanishEdit

Hi OrangeStar! Thank you for taking the time to translate articles on Meta, it's really appreciated. I write to you only to note a few things about translating into Spanish. Generally, we gender 'wiki' masculine as, per the RAE and per guidelines on translatewiki.net, while 'wiki' can be feminine, it's preferred if we gendered it masculine (I used to say la wiki so I was weirded out by that at first). Secondly, we try to be formal when writing so we use usted instead of tu where possible. For the last one, there's no real guideline anywhere dictating that but it's preferred to use usted as most of the articles on Meta have been translated to use usted rather than tu so we want to keep a uniform standard of how we refer to people. Once again, thank you for your great help, it's very much appreciated and congratulations on patroller and rollbacker! You're doing a great job. Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:46, 24 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I honestly had no idea that there were rules regarding the gender of 'wiki', thanks for letting me know. I'm used to using la, so it'll take me a while to change that. Thanks for letting me know about this. OrangeStar (talk) 17:49, 24 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

PagesEdit

Hi OrangeStar. In your closing remarks on your RfP, you mention that too many pages are protected. Could you give me a list of pages you think shouldn't be sysop-level protected so that I can review it? I've heard a similar complaint before but the user didn't elaborate on that so I'd love to tackle that issue right now. An RfC about the top would potentially be invalid so I'd like to see what pages you think should have their protection reduced so that I may reduce it. Thanks. Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To be frank, I think everything other than the main page and global/local policy pages (and even then, I'm open to unprotecting policy pages as well) can be unprotected, or at least lowered at semi-protection. OrangeStar (talk) 17:16, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've removed sysop-level protection from all mainspace pages excluding repeatedly vandalized pages, global policy (there's been occasions where people sneak in things into global policy and no one noticed until much later so we don't want to risk that), pages that are critical to global operations and whose unprotecting could damage the farm (Spam blacklist and Title blacklist for example), and pages where I wouldn't feel comfortable to modify without the approval of the group I'd be affecting (i.e. the Donate page is related to the Board so I'd probably talk to them first, etc.). Let me know if I missed something or if you think something else should be unprotected. Thanks! Agent Isai Talk to me! 17:52, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. OrangeStar (talk) 17:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MistakeEdit

Hello,OrangeStar.I have to apologize fot you because I've made a mistake on rfp.I wrote "young age",but it only meant you're new user.I'm sorry if you felt bad. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 19:33, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Don't worry about it. OrangeStar (talk) 20:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks!Edit

Hi OrangeStar. I just wanted to take the time to thank you for all the work you've been doing lately behind the scenes, you've been of great help in the technical scene with your PRs and help on Phabricator. Hope to keep seeing you around and once again, thank you! Agent Isai Talk to me! 04:27, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks! OrangeStar (talk) 12:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]