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Update link

Could someone please update the "Community Wishlist Survey" link in the "What do you want to see implemented in Miraheze in 2022? Participate in our Community Wishlist Survey and let us know!" notice to go directly to the new title Community Wishlist for 2022? GTrang (talk) 04:37, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay but this was Yes check.svg done yesterday. Agent Isai Talk to me! 12:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Meta:Community portal

As you know, when on mobile (which accounts for most visits) features the Special:MobileOptions , and with the advanced configuration it is shown in the main menu that "community portal" page that it is actually no longer in use and is protected from further editing. Dialog-information on.svg I suggest that someone redirect this page to the Community noticeboard, or build a new community portal linking to the noticeboards, or better, suggest that the user do their own questions in the Community noticeboard or stewards noticeboard. This would perhaps avoid confusion. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 23:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@YellowFrogger: There are plans to revive the Community portal in the near future but I do agree the link should be changed if it redirects users to a page that is not in use. Agent Isai Talk to me! 23:50, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
YellowFrogger, thank you for noticing. That is the former community noticeboard, and contains a historical archive. It's on my radar, but I'm not sure the best way to go about correcting this. We could probably history merge it into Community noticeboard/Archive 1, then create Meta:Community portal as a local Meta Wiki only community discussion forum. It's definitely on my radar, but quite low priority for the moment. Dmehus (talk) 23:51, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. I'd like to see you do this or exactly that, (even if that's not a big priority). --YellowFrogger (Talk) 02:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
YellowFrogger, Yes check.svg Done the requested history merge at here, with a note to the follow up request at my user talk page (new diff #1 and old diff #2). Additionally, I would just like to thank for Pinus/Matsu for previously providing the suggestion. Note that I have additionally redirected Meta:Community portal to community noticeboard only temporarily if and/or until it is repurposed as a Meta Wiki-specific community discussion portal. Dmehus (talk) 18:51, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Trust and Safety courtesy notice to Meta administrators regarding BlackWidowMovie0

Meta administrators,

I'm Doug, a Trust and Safety Responder for Miraheze Limited, and I wanted to provide you with this courtesy notice regarding BlackWidowMovie0. The user was the subject of a full service ban, pursuant to the Terms of Use and originally effected by SRE on behalf of the Board of Directors of Miraheze Limited, it has been replaced with a partial service ban by way of local block on Meta Wiki. The local block was originally imposed by, primarily, two different Meta administrators, one of which was myself in a community capacity and the other of which was Reception123 in a community capacity. As articulated here at the user's user talk page, in order to enforce the restrictions of and conditions in place for the user's partial Trust and Safety service ban, as Meta Wiki is the central coordination wiki by which wikis are requested by users, a Meta Wiki block was necessary. Please note that this is in addition to, and not a replace of, the Meta–imposed block, and further that Meta administrators are free, should they choose, to provide notice to the user that their Meta administrator block has been lifted, but that should that occur, the Trust and Safety–imposed Meta Wiki block would remain. The inverse of this would also be true. Many thanks! :)

Should you have any procedural questions related to the above, I'm happy to answer them here. As always, any enquiries relating to this can be sent to the Trust and Safety team at ts(at)miraheze.org.

Thanks,
Doug (talk) 18:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Patroller renounce Request (YellowFrogger)

Hello. Given my edits not adding much, (including peanut edits, reverted, etc) I request that I be demoted from patroller to (none), so that my edits are patrolled and further analyzed by volunteers. I'm inclined to request again just in another month. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 18:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to mark this as X mark.svg not done. You're showing capacity to learn from what are very minor mistakes in patrolling. Dmehus (talk) 18:59, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Agreed, if you think I'm not good, or that I deserve a revocation, remove it and tell me why. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 20:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was not aware that they had patroller in the first place. Last I checked it had been revoked and if it had been restored I missed that. This user definitely should not be a patroller, although I am glad they recognize that and drew attention to it. I am not sure why the removal request was marked as not done, both because it was a very valid one and was a self-removal of rights request. Naleksuh (talk) 20:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Naleksuh: Doug recommended me to wait at least (30) thirty days for me to request patroller, I did almost exactly that and he restored by "I maked genuine steps". What I'm pointing out here is because my latest edits need more monitoring from the patrollers themselves, and in order for the red ! (exclamation mark) to come back to my edits. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 20:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Naleksuh, the reason I did not act on YellowFrogger's patroller user group removal requests is because I felt this was a sudden, knee-jerk request. In the past, we've historically held off on such requests, including when Universal Omega had previously requested his interwiki administrator bit be removed (circa November 2020). While the patroller bit can easily be re-added as quickly as it can be removed, on the other hand, we don't want to just be adding and removing bits upon request. If YellowFrogger insists on removing the patroller bit, then I will do that, but they should take that into consideration in terms of future near-term re-requests. Dmehus (talk) 21:07, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To point out about the previous repeal, expanding on Dmehus comment, this was actually applied by a somewhat controversial admin who doesn't assume the good faith, for a silly thread that doesn't take anything on a Discord server. Users like Universal Omega don't like him very much. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 22:48, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
YellowFrogger, so are you wishing to rescind your resignation request, or are you still wanting to proceed? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:56, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Continue the rights even with the above user agreeing to renounce. I already explained to him above the reason for the revocation, although I was wrong in this story, there was no reason to generalize. If you see a negative change to my edits (if they are excessively disruptive) you can revoke the patroller's rights, and of course explain the reasons, as this usually helps to change the course of my type of edit, just as revoking caused me. lately. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 23:12, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can't back the English text

I started to translate the paragraph "Сфера ответственности" from English to Russian. When I translated the first sentence and saved it, the rest English text of the paragraph disappeared. I don't know how to back it. RedFox (talk) 19:19, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RedFox, I've procedurally Yes check.svg moved this request from the talk page language subpage for both greater visibility, response time, and because talk page subpages should generally not be used. An administrator translation administrator should respond to your question shortly. Dmehus (talk) 19:40, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove my Autopatrolled right

Per the recent events, I believe I need an extra set of eyes. Please remove it from this account. -- Cheers, Bongo Cat ( TalkContribs ) 15:40, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you recognized your mistake, (and will now ask for demoted in the alt account). --YellowFrogger (Talk) 16:30, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bukkit, thanks for the reminder that the autopatrolled was still on your alternate account, so Yes check.svg done. Also, I noticed that you're still using your old username for Bukkit (Public), so should be updated. Also, a pro tip, for wikilinks with spaces in them, it's best to replace the page-stretching underscores with spaces. See DannyS712's Easy Link user script, which adds a link to your sidebar (locally or globally, depending on which user JS file you use) and which you may find useful for this purpose. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 04:57, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for function

Hi! As the Meta-Wiki here on Miraheze doesn't need to change the interwiki table, concluding that everything here is translated through the translation extension: mw:Extension:Translate, I ask you to disable this function, $wgMinervaAlwaysShowLanguageButton (In Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-localization ManageWiki). This will remove that language icon in the MinervaNeue theme (the current mobile theme here), and will of course avoid confusion, as we don't need another site to be multilingual, as stated above. Sites like MediaWiki already do this, maybe doing it here is good and won't hurt either. The <language> tag will show the page in other languages. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 18:13, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

After a conversation on the Discord server nothing happened here. I X mark.svg even close this here,admitting my indignation, because the same thing will happen with the SandBox that nobody replied, neither refuses nor approves, it is for this and other reasons that, in my opinion, there should not be administrators noticeboard or include in the Meta namespace. I didn't like the posture of users over there, playing with my request while I was being serious. This here is very simple to solve, until the analysis, regarding the addition of this function using only ManageWiki. Definitely, in a few months, some more respected user will place an order and it will be accepted, or else activated on its own, but remember that I was the first to request this here. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 06:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I reopened this here. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 17:57, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In response to Doug on Disc, yes, I still believe (hopefully) that the next admin who requests this will have the same delay. The scope is clear here, this includes something that probably sites that don't need others disable the language icon in MinervaNeue, and it even shows "This page doesn't exist in other languages", of course it exists, it's translated locally with Extension: Translate. Also, I would recommend that you reply me that you are busy, not following what users were doing (does not include the joking part as you are respectful, more ignoring). You could have asked me to wait, if you said that, I probably lost --YellowFrogger (Talk) 06:56, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If there's no meaningful objections to this after a week or so, I think we can consider disabling it. Dmehus (talk) 07:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: I reopened. I'm not expecting an immediate response (decline/approval). But this is technical here at Meta, but it's still low priority. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 17:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Here is the enabled function. There's no reason to regret disabling it here. The site is translated internally and we don't need it there, which is when it's interwiki translated.

--YellowFrogger (Talk) 18:06, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not very technically proficient with this topic and I'm not in the best position to research, but I would like to see input on the merit here since at face value, it's at least worth considering. --Raidarr (talk) 22:32, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dmehus won't be back for a few days now. This here is not of extreme urgency, but I guarantee, it will help not to confuse mobile users. This icon in Minerva says that there are no pages in the other language, while in fact the page is internally translated and the <language> tag does this service by showing the expected languages. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 22:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extensions

Is there currently a translation administrator available to mark the recent change on the Extensions page for translation? Thanks --YellowFrogger (Talk) 20:03, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@YellowFrogger: Yes check.svg Done. Agent Isai Talk to me! 21:18, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I also expected an extension like this in Miraheze, however, PageViewInfo is WMF specific and HitCounters doesn't work. PageViewinfo shows views in the last thirty days in &action=info with API modules, like Wikipedia, including a very interesting graph showing the drops/rises of page views ([1]). I'm sure this is better than Matomo (because it shows on each page) then we would see the engagement of a wiki, and the best, each page. HitCounters is more limited and previously (in older versions of MW, including Monobook) they were automatically displayed in the footers of wikis, the functionality was removed, but it is still possible to install, I don't understand why it is not possible in Miraheze, PageViewInfo is perhaps more real/less liar because HitCounters changes page views with each update. I hope that one day, PageViewInfo will be set for all wikis besides WMF and also Miraheze, even if a MediaWiki page shows the installation tutorial. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 21:36, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The second part of this seems better suited to perhaps the Community Noticeboard for its broad nature, or perhaps inquiry via discord to SRE for faster response.--Raidarr (talk) 22:06, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This was another statement of mine. --YellowFrogger (Talk) 22:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand your point, you seem to have gone from asking to mark a page for translation to talking about 2 previously declined extensions. As previously discussed, PageViewInfo is very Wikimedia-specific (as you noted) and HitCounters has a horrible performance issue and was previously broken. I've used Matomo through it's dashboard and it is a very, very powerful and detailed tool but there is currently no way to show public, detailed statistics per T7512. Agent Isai Talk to me! 23:51, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Agent Isai: That statement of yours at the end made me curious. There is a way to access Matomo besides that normal page (your dashboard, according to you)? Where do I get access? --YellowFrogger (Talk) 00:03, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@YellowFrogger: The tool is only available for those with an LDAP account (SRE, Board and T&S). It is not available to normal users due to the amount of personal data that is available on it. Agent Isai Talk to me! 00:32, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strange. What personal data does this have? --YellowFrogger (Talk) 00:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]