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Translation administrator

I know I don't have many edits yet, but yes, the number of edits would increase if I had translation administrator rights: I could use them to translate pages and also mark them for translation. On my chat page, I was talking to a Miraheze user when I asked how I could help Miraheze and collaborate with others so if I understood correctly, translation was taken up. Therefore, I would like the rights of a translation administrator. Anton (talk) 20:20, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Anton I'm not opposed to this, but which language(s) do you speak fluently or fairly fluently, and on which wiki(s) have you used the Translate extension? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 20:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
I speak Swedish, Spanish and French, moderately English and Finnish well. I have learned Russian, but I do not know about than a couple of sentences. Yes, and I would use that Translate tool. In addition to this, I would mark the pages for translation - and I would translate them as well. --Anton (talk) 20:34, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Anton I'm going to put this on hold for a week or two, at minimum, as I would like to see you doing some translations first in languages in which you're most fluent, doing translation reviews of existing translations, and experimenting with the translation administration tools on one of your wikis. How's that? Dmehus (talk) 20:39, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
While I am not an administrator, I would suggest you to become an active translator first. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 20:39, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I was suggesting as well. Basically, you don't need translation administrator tools to translate. If you're active translating, you'll usually be invited to participate in fairly short order. Dmehus (talk) 20:43, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Okay, you can grant me translator rights and later even a translation administrator :) it's good to go to traffic.  I am now really going to participate in Miraheze. Anton (talk) 20:47, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
You do not need the Translator rights to translate anything here! You can just visit Special:Translate or click the "Translate" button on any translatable page. I hope this helps. :) R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 20:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you!  This helped.  I got started! Anton (talk) 21:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Anton  Great! I'll follow up with you in a couple weeks on your user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 01:23, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

FuzzyBot breaks bulleted lists

FuzzyBot breaks bulleted lists, see Special:Diff/159755 and Miraheze/eo for example. Why does this keep happening and what can we do about it? --Sabelöga (talk) 12:54, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I am to blame for this, apparently. I updated the translation syntax which seems to have caused this. Having said that, we should always keep the syntax up to date from time to time. I will look into switching back to the previous one in a few hours. We should consider making an upstream task on Wikimedia Phabricator regarding this as well. Also a note for Interface Admins: it may be possible to fix the issue with CSS. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 13:46, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
@Sabelöga: Do you have a list of broken pages? R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I don't think R4356th's translation edits or administration is to blame for this. If I'm understanding correctly, this occurs when a translated source page is marked for translation. The Translate extension, via FuzzyBot, adds div with a Translate extension-specific CSS class that breaks bulleted lists. It's an upstream bug almost certainly, but usually what translators do is they just remove this special div the next time they go to update the translation subpage. Dmehus (talk) 16:18, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
What Dmehus said above seems right. Updating the syntax should had used another HTML element. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 17:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Okay, so how does one manually update the translation syntax?
Also, I do think there is a fix to this as it doesn't seem to happen on MediaWiki.org where the syntax keeps the text on the same line which doesn't split the bullet from the text and prevents this from happening in the first place. --Sabelöga (talk) 07:28, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Never mind the above: the text was aligned that way on the source page which caused the translation to get mangled when FuzzyBot added that syntax. This has been fixed on the discussed page. Oh, and can you @Dmehus: do the same on the Main Page? --Sabelöga (talk) 07:36, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Request for Revoking the autopatrolled User Group from Incnis Mrsi

They have recently made some edits here which actions arguably constitute attacking other users which is obviously not acceptable. Even though their actions cannot be called vandalism, I (as a Meta patroller) think we should patrol their edits till we decide we are fine with them. Thank you. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 13:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done. This could've been considered, perhaps, but given that the user seems to have dropped the stick, I don't feel this is necessary at this time. We'll monitor the situation and take action accordingly. Dmehus (talk) 13:23, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Alright. Thank you for looking into this anyway. :) R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 13:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Special:MyLanguage in a system message

I recently saw the system message that says "Cookies help us deliver our services. By using our services, you agree to our use of cookies." "More information" "OK", the link directs to Privacy Policy#4. Cookies when it should direct to Special:MyLanguage/Privacy Policy#4. Cookies. (I don't know if this regards the Stewards, if it does please move this thread) --Sabelöga (talk) 06:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I do no know how welcome this message is as I have not really done anything here in the last 24 hours but... this cannot be changed by Stewards or Meta administrators. This must be changed by a Sysadmin. I have made a pull request to change this. R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 14:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
R4356th's pull request looks fine to me. I can't think of any reason why not to implement this change, as we're not even adding Special:MyLanguage in an interface message or anything, but yeah, to add to what R4356th said, if it cannot be changed on-wiki, then your best bet is to open a Phabricator task and a system administrator can consider implementing the change—after first determining if a community discussion is required or not. This is likely a very non-controversial change, as it only helps internationalize our cookie warning message. Additionally, any community volunteer can implement the change, as R4356th has done, and any system administrator can merge it. Dmehus (talk) 15:03, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
The change has been merged, by the way. It should be live by now. :) R4356th 2,942 Local Contributions Logged Actions Rights CentralAuth (talk) 17:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
It has, thanks very much :) Anyway, I should really learn how to use Phabricator, but I haven't gotten around to do that yet.. Sabelöga (talk) 20:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Question about Content Policy/fr

En français c'est bourré de fautes de syntaxe --Zazoult (talk) 22:16, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Zazoult Please note I have procedurally moved this question from Talk:Content Policy/fr as talk pages on Meta Wiki are infrequently monitored and because centralized discussion is preferred. In this case, Meta:Administrators' noticeboard is the best venue for this question, which translates from the French using Google Translate as, "In French it's full of syntax errors." Do you mean technical syntax errors, or language syntax errors? If the latter, I'd recommend reaching out to either HeartsDo, a French speaking translation administrator on Meta Wiki; Reception123, a French speaking administrator on Meta Wiki, or Gerdami, an active French speaking translator on Meta Wiki. They will likely need you to clarify your question a bit, though. If the former, can you clarify what sort of errors, possibly by way of linking to a specific diff, or quoting a brief example? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
J'ai essayé de retraduire, parce que la synthaxe est très importante il faut quand même que çà soit compréhensible pour les éditeurs ou les créateurs surtout concernant les conditions générales de cette ferme de wiki. Zazoult (talk) 22:48, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Merci Zazoult de vouloir améliorer la traduction française de cette page. Il en reste d'ailleurs beaucoup à traduire. Cependant, ";Ceci n'est pas une erreur de syntaxe", en effet, le ";" en début de phrase sert à placer une emphase sur le texte et ne demande ni espace ni minuscule. Cordialement, Gerdami (talk) 07:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Zazoult Merci et j'ai juste fait changer comme l'a dit Gerdami, l'histoire du ";". Par contre, juste une dernière question pour savoir: Pourquoi "Politiques et réglementation" en titre pour "Content Policy" ? HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 12:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)