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    Question about multi-language support[edit | edit source]

    I am thinking about adding multi-language support to signal (this is also discussed on a forum about the wiki's topic starting from this post: https://community.signalusers.org/t/50963/12). (Seems it's not possible to post external links here.)

    It seems like mw:Extension:Translate may be a good fit and it is available to enable in ManageWiki (after enabling mw:Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector).

    However, the initial wiki request and the current wiki configuration specify just English as the wiki language (and there doesn't seem to be a way to specify multiple) and I'm not sure whether there is any policy regarding having multiple languages in one wiki.

    Also, I couldn't easily find examples of other Miraheze wikis (excluding Meta, etc.) that support multiple languages via that extension (though there are examples of a different approach—using completely separate wikis). ImpliedMemory (talk) 20:56, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    In Miraheze, multiple languages in the same subdomain are currently not supported, i.e. subdomain.wikifarmaddress/wiki/ and subdomain.wikifarmaddress/ja/wiki/ (Japanese version) cannot exist at the same time. However, you can add language code in front of (or behind) the subdomain name, e.g. wikis with these subdomains exist at the same time: examplesubdomain and frexamplesubdomain (or examplesubdomainfr, i.e. the French version). You can remain your existing wiki's subdomain not to be changed, and follow above steps to build a foreign language version. --小美粉粉 (T - C - S) 1004065811 bytes of data NOTE: Do not {{ping}} me! 10:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thanks for the information that an approach like /ja/wiki isn't possible.
    (1) Regarding using different subdomains (examplesubdomain, frexamplesubdomain, etc.), that is certainly an option, but it would mean that each language version of the wiki would be completely independent, needs to be requested and created separately, etc.
    (2) Like I said in my original comment, I see that there's another approach though: using mw:Extension:Translate to translate individual pages (I believe the translated pages are accessible as "subpages" of the original page in that case, which seems like it should be supported on Miraheze). My main question is: is this approach allowed or disallowed on Miraheze by any policy, given that the wiki's language is specified as English? I would also be interested in looking at examples of Miraheze-hosted wikis (apart from Meta, etc.) that are using mw:Extension:Translate to translate their content, if there are any.
    All that said, I'm not exactly certain whether (1) or (2) is better for the wiki. Approach (2) seems to be easier to set up and add new languages, though. ImpliedMemory (talk) 13:05, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    is this approach allowed or disallowed on Miraheze by any policy, given that the wiki's language is specified as English
    Not at all, you're free to do that.
    Overall, using the Translate extension is much better than fragmenting yourself across multiple language wikis. I don't really know if any other wiki which uses the Translate extension but I do know that MediaWiki.org uses it which could be useful to analyze. Agent Isai Talk to me! 13:08, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thanks! We'll try using the extension then. ImpliedMemory (talk) 16:23, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    How can I disable anonymous edits on my wiki?[edit | edit source]

    Hi! I'm ShawnTehLogoBoi, owner of the Charactapedia reboot which is currently a work in progress. For this reboot, anonymous edits will not be allowed due to fears that anonymous users can vandalize this wiki. Since I'm the bureaucrat of this wiki, how can I disable anonymous edits? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 22:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Do not delete the '(everyone)' user group as suggested, this can cause significant issues later on.
    Instead, there are two routes you can go:
    • Under Manage Additional Settings > Anti Spam, enable Email Confirm To Edit
      • This will require users to log in with email-verified accounts in order to edit the wiki
    • Alternatively, navigate to Manage Permissions > submitting the (everyone) group to modify and remove the Edit permission from this user group
      • If you go this route, make sure that the permission is present on the Users user group to ensure that logged in users (with or without email) can still edit.
    --NotAracham (talkcontribsglobal) 00:11, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I will take the alternative route. First, I should go to Manage Permissions. What should I do next? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 00:37, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    1. Navigate to Manage this wiki's Permissions
    2. Set (everyone) under existing group to edit then click Submit
    3. Under Assigned Permissions, uncheck Edit if it is currently present, then save changes
    4. Navigate to Manage this wiki's Permissions
    5. Set Users under existing group to edit then click Submit
    6. Make sure that Edit is enabled under Assigned Permissions
    7. If not, go to Unassigned Permissions and check the box for Edit, then save.
    --NotAracham (talkcontribsglobal) 00:58, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Alrighty! Now anonymous users can't edit here! This is to help prevent vandalism on Charactapedia. I will continue to develop the reboot. Anyway, sayonara! ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 01:10, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I really don't know how to explain this well but I found a way how to disable it.
    First you go do manage the wiki’s permissions. Make sure you click “(everyone)” and submit it.
    Now that you got it, click the delete section and delete the user group. Don't worry, this doesn't mean that users won’t edit the wiki, only anonymous users.
    Hope this helps!

    -- Financier (talk༆) 23:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Please do not suggest deletion of groups, this should be done only as a last resort and can break extensions that rely on certain permission groups existing. --NotAracham (talkcontribsglobal) 00:12, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    How to delete a Miraheze wiki[edit | edit source]

    How do you delete a wiki on Miraheze? I wanna delete my wiki imaginaryhistory.miraheze.org as soon as possible. Thanks Havlunwitmydinner (talk) 19:11, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    This can be requested on Stewards'_noticeboard#Wiki_(un)deletion, please file a request for deletion there.
    --NotAracham (talkcontribsglobal) 19:51, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    How can I import Google fonts to Charactapedia?[edit | edit source]

    Hello again. I'm ShawnTehLogoBoi. I'm planning to add the Gill Sans font to the Charactapedia reboot. It should be noted that a few other wikis, like Trollpasta Wiki, have imported Google fonts onto their mainspace. An example of a font imported onto that wiki uses this text: (@import url('https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Acme&family=Balsamiq+Sans&family=Bebas+Neue&display=swap'). How can I import Google fonts to CP? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 00:10, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    You should be able to copy their code and do the same. Once have the @import statement, all you have to do is define what CSS classes should use the font (i.e. normal text or only headers, etc.) Agent Isai Talk to me! 05:06, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Alright. First, for the Gill Sans font on googleapis, where should I find it? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 15:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Dang it, it didn't work. Is there an alternate way to import Google fonts to Charactapedia? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 16:13, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Revert to MediaWiki 1.38[edit | edit source]

    I understand this is an extreme proposal (and, frankly, I'm not sure it's even possible), but 1.39 is just that broken I feel warranted to suggest it. Even beyond the atrocious new default style, several pieces of formatting just plain old do not work anymore. These include <tabber>, dropdown bars on the side (when using older styles) and more. This was not ready for "stable" release and I think Miraheze should go back to and stay on 1.38 until this catastrophe is fixed. Agiletek (talk) 02:55, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Part of our commitment, as laid out in our main page, is that we will always upgrade MediaWiki versions when possible. On top of that, as you stated, it is technically impossible to revert back to 1.38, doing so is literally impossible. If you have a specific bug you've encountered, please do tell us so we may forward this to the upstream developers of the extension (Tabber is not a Wikimedia extension so MediaWiki 1.39 itself isn't directly to blame for any bug). Agent Isai Talk to me! 03:06, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    For one, the collapsed sidebars on allthetropes (such as Troping Utilities) no longer function, even when using a legacy style. I'm forced to use Timeless because it removes the collapsing and has it always expanded. Agiletek (talk) 05:52, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    That's one issue, Miraheze has bugs a lot that need to be fixed (and wikis sometimes cause those bugs too). Can you think of anything that might have been changed on allthetropes (CSS, JS, gadgets, etc.) that might have broken it? Collei (talk) 05:56, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The upstream developer of CollapsibleVector has been notified. This is a bug due to the way MediaWiki 1.39 deals with skins. I hope it's fixed soon. Agent Isai Talk to me! 06:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Interwiki request[edit | edit source]

    superwiki
    smallvillewiki
    Prefix URL Forward Transclude
    release https://www.discogs.com/release/$1 No No
    master https://www.discogs.com/master/$1 No No

    Ora & D (talk) 11:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Yes check.svg Done --NotAracham (talkcontribsglobal) 16:46, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Adding stylized custom font for use in a wiki[edit | edit source]

    Hi, I would like to ask how if I'm able to upload custom fonts to use in a wiki. The font that I want to upload is taken from a video game with some customs, which means I have to upload it somewhere. I also am not sure if cross-origin will block my font when uploaded to an external server of some sort. I'd like some help, thanks. EthGaming101 (talk) 20:14, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    SRE Vacancy: Software Engineer (Developer) (MediaWiki)[edit | edit source]

    Miraheze is looking for Software Engineers to join our MediaWiki Team to develop code to improve the user experience of Miraheze users, build tools that allow communities to grow, and tools that support our valuable volunteers in managing a dynamic and active global community. If you think this could be you, please do have a look at the Vacancies page which includes further information. Reception123 (talk) (C) 07:10, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    DataDump download files[edit | edit source]

    I am trying to test if I can download my wiki at once with DataDump. text seems to work with xml but cannot figure out how to download all files (images) at once. DataDump/File request produces too litle file, whereas I have 1.5 MB in total.

    Also, is it possible to download mywiki and open it locally with folder structure; that is; all pages in separate txt file and files linked to it.

    Araz (talk) 12:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Currently, DataDump cannot dump images, but SRE is working on possibly restoring that functionality. Unfortunately, since MediaWiki is dynamically generated, there's no way to view the page contents of your wiki without importing it into a MediaWiki instance. You can install XAMPP if you want to have a personal wiki on your computer. Make sure that Apache and MySQL are installed and enabled every time you want to run MediaWiki. Tali64³ (talk) 15:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    How can I hide the recent changes bar on pages in the Cosmos skin?[edit | edit source]

    Hello once again! I'm ShawnTehLogoBoi, and this time, I want to hide the recent changes bar (which shows 4 recent edits) that is on the left of most of the pages. Note that Polandball Wiki has done the same thing. How can I do so? ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 13:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    The suggestions to push it off edge of screen with a div tag is incorrect. The correct option is found under Manage Additional Settings > Styling > Cosmos Recent Changes Rail Module.
    Set this to disable and save to remove the recent changes rail.
    --NotAracham (talkcontribsglobal) 17:04, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thanks! That should make the pages on the Charactapedia reboot easier to read. ShawnTehLogoBoi (talk) 17:51, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Sorry, but I believe that there is only one way to take that out, and that's with making a custom background. (Using this code for Chromebook/Macbook:

    <div style="display:block;width:100%;left:1px;z- 
      index:-1;position:fixed;top:-10px;bottom:0px">[[File:  |1400px|link=]] 
      </div> 
    

    But I don't think you can actually change it. 《Commetian_Empire》 (talk) 15:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Don't use that code. You accidentally made it run here on the community noticeboard, and everybody was unable to interact with literally anything. Collei (talk) 17:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Is there an easy way to have a navbox template auto generate from a list?[edit | edit source]

    At the Simple Electronics Wiki main page is a section "List of topics" - actually six bulleted lists of links. A navbox template at the foot of the page has the same links.

    Where the list has === topic === the navbox template has a group and where there's a link in a bulleted list the navbox template lists the same link, (but only the first one of that line).

    How to easily auto-generate the navbox template from the list so that the two stay in sync? --Rob Kam (talk) 18:17, 31 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Automatic generation of the template isn't really a thing, but setting up a navbox template to use dynamic page lists (DPL) is possible.
    It's off-miraheze, but the OpenSUSE wiki makes use of this functionality:
    https://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Template:NavboxDPL&action=edit
    https://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Template:Nvidia_navbox&action=edit
    --NotAracham (talkcontribsglobal) 19:19, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thanks ... DPL3 looks like a way to do it, except it requires wiki pages with some content and most of this wiki's pages don't yet exist. Rob Kam (talk) 22:06, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    I don't have permissions on my own wiki[edit | edit source]

    I'm revisiting a wiki I created a while ago (it's not deleted) and despite being logged into the account I used to create the wiki, I'm unable to access any of its pages because I don't have permissions. The page implies I'm neither a Member nor an Administrator. What's happening here? Kineticcrusher (talk) 17:50, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    It appears you may have been impacted by the November/December wiki outages if your wiki was created between mid-November and mid-December.
    Please file a request on the Steward's noticeboards under the permissions section, as they're they're the only group that will be able to resolve this issue.
    --NotAracham (talkcontribsglobal) 19:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Kineticcrusher: No need to file a report on SN, this has been Yes check.svg Done. Please let me know if you have any questions by leaving a message on my talk page, I'm always happy to assist. Thanks - BrandonWM (talkcontributionsglobalrights) 04:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]