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WHEN I TRY TO CHANGE THE WIKI ICON THE SETTINGS RESETEdit

WHEN I TRY TO CHANGE THE ICON (OR ANY OTHER SETTINGS) FOR MY WIKI, ONCE I SAVE THE SETTINGS AND RELOAD THE PAGE, THEY RESET :( Ghostie222 (talk) 05:53, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chill out, dude. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 05:59, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
IM NOT YELLING ITS JUST HOW I TYPE! :] /G Ghostie222 (talk) 06:05, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
First, all-caps equals yelling, so you are choosing to yell. Second, did you purge the page so that it would pick up the new settings, or just reload the old page from the wiki cache? --Robkelk (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sortable Table - Custom Order?Edit

I am working on a large chart of fictional characters' birthdays. One of the columns I have is a field to input their zodiac sign. When I click to sort by zodiac, however, it goes alphabetically. This is a feature I can totally live without, but just in case- is there anything I can do to make it sort in the order of the zodiac instead? I have no idea if a custom value heirarchy is supported by default without crazy extension wizardry etc, but would 'put transparent ordering numbers in front of all the zodiac names' or something work lol Chantolove (talk) 19:37, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chantolove: WikiMedia has a help page but no option. I use data-sort-value="number" numbering the zodiacs from 1 to 12. As you are creating a long chart you could create a template for each zodiac to quickly add

Template:Aries

data-sort-value="1"| Aries
PercyUK (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
worked perfectly!! tysmsmsm :] Chantolove (talk) 20:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should the reception wikis shutdown on Miraheze.Edit

<mainpage> tag not workingEdit

Hello. Im new to miraheze and i has bug thay literally kills the code. <mainpage> literally dont work and displayed as plain text. Maybe i need any extension? I cant give screenshot because it block miraheze! Please help me! Максим Фединов (talk) 20:46, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you moved over from Fandom then you have to enable the DummyFandoomMainpageTags extension at Special:ManageWiki/extensions -> Parser hooks. Agent Isai Talk to me! 03:04, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many tags doesnt workingEdit

Hello what extensions i need for working tags <infobox>, <title source>, <default>, <format>, <group>, <header>, <label>? Thanks in advance User:Obossum721 (talk) 11:23, 13 September 2022 (MSK)

@Obossum721: Portable Infobox - PercyUK (talk) 09:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for help, but it doesnt work Obossum721 (talk) 09:39, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Obossum721: it's called PortableInfobox, it should be in "Parser hooks" tab. Bear in mind that such changes might take 5-10 minutes to actually start working, or you can manually purge pages to see them ("Purge" button is near "Edit", "History", etc). KatozzKita (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Extension was enabled at 9:39 (GMT+3), but 5 hours have already passed and nothing has changed, cache has been cleared 6 times Obossum721 (talk) 11:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is a translation issue. It is expecting wording to be in Russian but is English OR expecting wording to be in English but is Russian. I have created Шаблон:Stranosphere and <infobox> is working. - PercyUK (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It was bag with tabing in end of template. How i can add image to infobox? Obossum721 (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with templatesEdit

Hi. A template with a category in <includeonly> ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Stub ) works correctly, but in a template without a category ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Копипаста ) <br> appears below the main block ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Токугава ). What's the problem? Rairakkumee (talk) 13:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair dealingEdit

I think there need to be a page on fair dealing because there's a new notice that notifies that in UK (Miraheze is based in said country), the country goes by fair dealing whereas for Americans like me we're used to fair use. From what I've gathered in this Wikipedia article, fair dealing applies to non-commercial study and research, though it has a limited application to things such as software & has to show how it applies. I run several video game-related wikis that use a lot of images that would, under U.S. law, qualify as fair use & need them to show how various character artwork, game screenshots, sprites, and so forth look like. My personal guess is that uploading media without caption or context is a violation of fair dealing, although I always strive to do add them for proper documentation.

Does anyone have any input on this? I feel there needs to be a user-friendly list of examples of what is allowed and what is not allowed. I think I'm okay, but a fair dealing page here would help minimize the risk of violating fair dealing, especially at the risk of wiki closure. Bawitdaba (talk) 12:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is something that should be included in a primer about how UK copyright law applies to Miraheze, in my opinion. "Fair Dealing" in the UK is different from "Fair Dealing" in Canada or "Fair Use" in the USA, so having a quick explanation and a short list of common cases would be useful. --Robkelk (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes -- I have stated to others before that I have set up U.S. fair use templates on my wiki before, although I've manually readded the UK fair dealing in my custom MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices, so there would be a bit of conflict.
I have wondered if the wikis I run recognize U.S. fair use while acknowledging that the host itself recognizes UK fair dealing due to being hosted within the UK, meaning that there cannot be conflict between the two & that fair dealing overrides fair use due to, again, where the location is hosted. If this is allowed I'd update the MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices accordingly. Perhaps I'd add that extra notice in Project:Copyrights because legal people are not likely to check Special:Upload Bawitdaba (talk) 13:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is quite complex since the UK only has case law about fair dealing but no statutory/clear definition of what it is. The best guide can be found on the UK Government webiste. While it may sound very vague it seems the main question is really just whether the use of the file in such a way is fair. While this isn't a legal opinion, I'd probably guess it can't be too far from the US definition of fair use (even though it is probably a bit stricter). Reception123 (talk) (C) 07:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Reception123: Would I be allowed to use U.S. fair use licensing templates on my wikis? I just ask because it would take all day for me to replace all of it to say "fair dealing." I can say in Project:Copyrights, MediaWiki:Uploadtext that although copyrighted files recognized under fair use, it cannot conflict with fair dealing due to Miraheze being based in the UK. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Name change pleaseEdit

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까?

message mix...

english + different speech = impossible

korea speech + ? = possible

i'm didn't know of 주문은 치노입니까 produce :(

주문은 치노입니까? produce trial's similar of impossible :(

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까? Name change ok?주문은 치노입니까 (talk) 04:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@주문은 치노입니까: Hello.Do you mean it's your wiki's name?You can change it in "Special:Managewiki/core" if you're bureaucrat of the wiki or have "managewiki" permission. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:27, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(Machine translation; 기계 번역) 사이트 이름을 변경하려면 "Special:ManageWiki/core"에서 변경할 수 있습니다. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like my account deleted (I'll explain why)Edit

Hello. I was a former editor on the Miraheze "reception wikis", which consist of which are the best and worst. The negative ones are in particular controversial (which I won't explain), so I'd like my account to at least be deleted. I cannot change my username, I'd rather have it disappear until I can make a new one. I'm telling this mainly due to bad memories and regretting my contributions there, thank you! WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do know the negative one for TV shows in particular had an article named "celebt*rds" and implicitly defended Nickelodeon's most controversial creator (the guy behind Ren and Stimpy), but I won't provide any further context. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's impossible to delete accounts with MediaWiki. Stewards can lock and vanish your account, which can be requested on the Steward's noticeboard. Tali64³ (talk) 19:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to what Tali64³ have said , if you want to vanish your account according to the Data Request Process, please instead file a request at TSPortal, but not the Stewards’ noticeboard. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tali64³ @Matttest I see. Can I have my username changed, instead? And is it against the rules to move an account out of bad memories + contributions on controversial wikis? WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can, check Changing username for more info. However, note that it is impossible to scrub your contributions out from a wiki and your username on edits and pages. Even if you request a vanish via TSPortal, it's impossible to remove edits. Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Uncyclopedia should be open to publicEdit

When and why Chinese Uncyclopedia becomes a private wiki? As an editor of the wiki, I'm not informed about this and I can't ask reasons on the wiki because of lack of permission. As one of active uncyclopedias, I think it's reasonable to re-open to public. 全都是套路 (talk) 04:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Have you contacted sysop of Chinese uncyclopedia?I think you should do it if you've not done. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can't contact them, and they never read messages in the past. --全都是套路 (talk) 09:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Date-Based Content?Edit

Me again. Where would I look for help on inserting date-based content on the home page? Like, a 'this day in history' box or a 'it's such-and-such character's birthday!' box. It's hard to phrase this in searches because I just end up getting results for adding different types of date formatting. Do I have to cook up some forbidden magic or do I just not know the right official term to search? (getting a random page of the day is not the function I'm looking for with this question, but if that exists I'd like to know about it too) Chantolove (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean something like:
  • a page that stores birthdays of every character
  • some code on the main page to show which character has birthday today
Or rather to show pages that are "tagged" with a certain date? It's surely possible but I'd need to know what exactly you need to help you further ^^ 21:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
@Chantolove: I use Magic Words and create a template for each day
Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} → Template:September 27
As I don't have a template for everyday, I include default message to avoid "this template does not exist"
{{#ifexist: Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}
| Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}
| No events today
}}
PercyUK (talk) 07:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, that's wonderful! Tysm!! I'll try my best to get that to work :> Chantolove (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Working fine, I just had to tweak it to "{{Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}}}" in order to get the template contents to show.
Is the only way you know of to accomplish this by calling a template? It feels like I'm making a lot of pages for them each to have one or two lines of text on them. Is that just how things work round these parts? Chantolove (talk) 23:36, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chantolove: Create a switch template for each month imstead?

  • {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} would select the template
  • {{CURRENTDAY}} would select the day

Template:Birthdays List/September

{{#switch: {{{1}}}
|8  = Kanaya Mitarai
|21 = Rira Kanai
|23 = Ochiyo Inai
|27 = Hatsue Kozutsumi
|#default = No birthdays today
}}

On your page

{{Birthdays List/{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}|{{CURRENTDAY}}}}

PercyUK (talk) 10:29, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Feedback: making syntax highlighting enabled by defaultEdit

While visiting a few new wikis I noticed that syntax highlighting is not enabled by default. It's a really helpful tool that's also standard for most code editing software, which can help avoid simple syntax errors and make editing easier. And because it features a toggle, it can be easily disabled if anyone prefers to not use it at any time.
Advantages of having syntax highlighting by default:

  • It would make the source editor (and code editors) more accessible to beginner wiki editors, who might not even be aware it exists in the first place.
  • People who migrate from Fandom and are yet to learn about ManageWiki would expect for this feature to be enabled by default. This would make it more intuitive for them.
  • Marking it as default would make it more widespread on new wikis. It would be beneficial for editors who edit multiple wikis, and frequently use the multi-select feature the syntax highlighting enables.

Because syntax highlighting for wikitext and CSS/JS/Lua are handled by two different extensions (CodeMirror and CodeEditor respectively), I made a proposal for each.

Note: I was told those extensions may have an impact on performance and to mention @Universal Omega: in this post.

22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 1: Wikitext syntax highlighting by defaultEdit

Make the CodeMirror extension enabled by default when a new wiki is created. Existing wikis would stay unaffected.

Support (1)Edit

  1.   Strong support as proposer. 22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  2.   Support Long standing and widely used feature. Beneficial to both beginner and veteran editors alike. CodeMirror is a feature I frequently (read "nearly always") use myself, and also personally frequently forget to enable as part of my new wiki configuration process. dross (tcg) 22:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 22:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support Executive2 (talk) 10:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Strong support I feel like it even might encourage new users, admins especially, to work more in source editor. Needless to say how handy it's gonna be for helping volunteers. KatozzKita (talk) 10:32, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain (1)Edit

Oppose (1)Edit

Comments (1)Edit

Proposal 2: CSS/JS/Lua syntax highlighting by defaultEdit

Make the CodeEditor extension enabled by default when a new wiki is created. Existing wikis would stay unaffected.

Support (2)Edit

  1.   Strong support as proposer. 22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  2.   Support Tab support is a must on any project requiring the editing of code. Seems like a quality of life improvement (technical concerns aside) for this to be enabled by default. dross (tcg) 22:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Strongest support Useful. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 06:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   SupportExecutive2 (talk) 10:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Support Per above. -Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Strong support Absolutely. KatozzKita (talk) 10:32, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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How to change the side menuEdit

 Andrey Eduardovich (talk) 09:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Instructions at Manual:Interface/Sidebar and on your wiki at MediaWiki:Sidebar --Rob Kam (talk) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with ProofreadPage and displaying transcribed booksEdit

I am hoping someone can provide some information regarding this issue, which I only noticed because I wanted to start up my transcribing projects again after a lengthy break.

I use the ProofreadPage extension and this has worked well in the past. Now there are missing tabs (previous, next and image tabs) and the side by side text and image page is now missing the image from the .djvu file as seen here on this random page Page:The_British_Blockade.djvu/12.

In addition to this, when all these pages are transcribed, they spliced together to form a complete document using the <pages> tag, such as: <pages index="The British Blockade.djvu" from=5 to=14 /> But, I keep getting an error: Error:No such file as seen on this page The British Blockade

Can someone shed some light if this has something to do with the latest updates causing this problem. If this no longer works, there has been a lot of transcribing work in the past wasted.

Thanks for any advice. Borderman (Talk) 10:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki?Edit

Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki? If anyone of you are feminine and are into women's fashion. That wiki is the place to be. You can feel free to change the rules to say whatever you want. So, if any of you're wanting that. You can do that on there, but leave most of it the same. Unless, you feel like it needs surious correction. Kew1119 (talk) 02:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's a good idea to offer the reins of what appears to be your personal wiki to anyone who asks Chantolove (talk) 23:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Columns For Beginners? (possible misuse of col-break template)Edit

I am trying to use the "col-begin", "col-end", and "col-break" functions found here on the template wiki. This is happening. It's displaying a bunch of code junk from the col-break thing. All I'm trying to do is two equally-sized columns, and that part's not even working T_T Should I be using some different template

I've copied the 'col-begin', 'col-end', and 'col-break' templates into their own pages on my wiki exactly as they're used in the source code on Templates, minus the line about documentation. Chantolove (talk) 00:09, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chantolove: The templates include class= requiring to add the relevant code into MediaWiki:Common.css
I prefer to create a basic template which I can easily change

Template:2Col

{| width="100%"
|- valign="top"
| width="50%" |
<!-- LEFT COLUMN -->
{{{left column|}}}

| width="50%" |
<!-- RIGHT COLUMN -->
{{{right column|}}}
|}

On the page

{{2Col
 | left column  = left column text
 | right column = right column text
}}
PercyUK (talk) 11:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
tysm!! Chantolove (talk) 03:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The new version of the photo is not displayedEdit

On my wiki new version of photo files is not displayed on pages. The old version is shown on thumbnails instead of new, even if old versions deleted. Cache deleting is not working. Thefirstdarkness (talk) 08:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you try:
  • Viewing the images in a different resolution like [[File:Example.png|123px]] (with your image name of course)
  • Viewing the pages on another device
  • Purging the pages with images
If any of this works, that means the images will update by themselves, they just need more time. Also, some browsers have a separate option to clear image cache, so there's a chance you didn't clear it. 14:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Ukrainian letter ҐEdit

Ukrainian letter «Ґ» is five letter of ukrainian alphabet, but on categories this letter is very last. Please, fix this problem. Thefirstdarkness (talk) 08:59, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK, this is an issue with MediaWiki itself, not with Miraheze. Most "special" characters are listed last, so that's expected behavior. I don't have an exact place where you can complain, but here is their site. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 00:22, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to get ParserFunctions StringFunctions enabled.Edit

How do I get string function in the ParserFunctions extension enabled? I found a place tha an administrator needs to set $wgPFEnableStringFunctions = true; in LocalSettings.php. Is this where I ask for that? Thanks Lifelonglearner (talk) 00:00, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Lifelonglearner. You can enable $wgPFEnableStringFunctions in ManageWiki at Special:ManageWiki/settings. Happy editing! dross (tcg) 07:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding CSS Page Doesn't Work?Edit

Trying to add a css page (shamelessly yoinked from wikipedia, admittedly- who knew colored textboxes would be such a quest), but it doesn't work. It just shows up as plain code. I don't have permission to use changecontentmodel on my site, either. Chantolove (talk) 04:01, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Chantolove. Sorry you're having so much trouble with this. The CSS you're trying to use relies on the TemplateStyles extension. This can be enabled at Special:ManageWiki/extensions. In order to change the content model of the page, you'll first need to assign the editcontentmodel permission to the proper group for your wiki. You can do this with Special:ManageWiki/permissions. Once you have done this, the content model may be changed at Special:ChangeContentModel/Template:Divbox/styles.css. Happy editing! dross (tcg) 07:19, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Chantolove: As Wikipedia has millions of pages, its templates are complex to accommodate all the needs. As your wiki will use it the same way, a basic system can be used:
  1. create Template:Divbox
  2. create Template:Divbox/styles.css (as I use Lua → Module:Divbox/styles and Module:Divbox for the switch)
My alternative → Test Wiki
PercyUK (talk) 17:17, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions footerEdit

I would like to add a contributions footer to my wiki, like the one on Meta. How would I do this? ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 18:53, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Steward will need to handle this request, as $wgMaxCredits requires managewiki-restricted. Which wiki is this request for? dross (tcg) 07:34, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Legend of Dark Witch Wiki ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 10:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, $wgMaxCredits doesn't seem to fit what I want to do. I would like to add the thing on the bottom of the contributions page (picture below). ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 11:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer --坑触可 (talk) 12:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 12:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Costume explore section.Edit

Hello, I wanted to do a costume explore section on the CountryHumans Wiki, however I don’t know how to do it. Any suggestions? KumihoWolffey (talk) 19:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The explore section is a part of top navigation of the Cosmos skin. You can customize the top navigation on MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation. See the Cosmos skin documentation for more details. Hope that helps! ^^ 22:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)