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WHEN I TRY TO CHANGE THE WIKI ICON THE SETTINGS RESET

WHEN I TRY TO CHANGE THE ICON (OR ANY OTHER SETTINGS) FOR MY WIKI, ONCE I SAVE THE SETTINGS AND RELOAD THE PAGE, THEY RESET :( Ghostie222 (talk) 05:53, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chill out, dude. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 05:59, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
IM NOT YELLING ITS JUST HOW I TYPE! :] /G Ghostie222 (talk) 06:05, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
First, all-caps equals yelling, so you are choosing to yell. Second, did you purge the page so that it would pick up the new settings, or just reload the old page from the wiki cache? --Robkelk (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Local interwiki administrator amendment proposal

Sortable Table - Custom Order?

I am working on a large chart of fictional characters' birthdays. One of the columns I have is a field to input their zodiac sign. When I click to sort by zodiac, however, it goes alphabetically. This is a feature I can totally live without, but just in case- is there anything I can do to make it sort in the order of the zodiac instead? I have no idea if a custom value heirarchy is supported by default without crazy extension wizardry etc, but would 'put transparent ordering numbers in front of all the zodiac names' or something work lol Chantolove (talk) 19:37, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chantolove: WikiMedia has a help page but no option. I use data-sort-value="number" numbering the zodiacs from 1 to 12. As you are creating a long chart you could create a template for each zodiac to quickly add

Template:Aries

data-sort-value="1"| Aries
PercyUK (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
worked perfectly!! tysmsmsm :] Chantolove (talk) 20:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should the reception wikis shutdown on Miraheze.

Wiki Limit

Hi, I'm wondering — is there a limit to how many wikis one can register? Thank you! JamestheGreat (talk) 02:10, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, though there is no limits on how many wikis you can request, you should have a clear scope of your wiki before you request one, and it should not violate the Content Policy. Additionally, if you have previously requested too much wikis that are unused, or request excess wikis with the same scope, it will not be tolerated. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 02:42, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Content Policy reform draft

Hi everyone,

Please note that myself and Agent Isai have drafted an RfC in order to reform the current Content Policy. We'd appreciate any feedback or comments about any of the proposals before opening it to voting. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:01, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to add a read only user to a wiki?

A wiki might want to include a read only user, for example for a user to access but not be able to edit a private wiki. Answering my own question: The easiest way to do this is to to do a sitewide block of the user. Then that user will still be able to read the wiki but will no longer be able to edit. Rob Kam (talk) 11:56, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How about making another user group with the read right, but not the edit right? Tali64³ (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can also revoke edit rights from users who aren't supposed to edit (ex. (everyone), Users, Members), and then create another right with the permission to view and edit. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 17:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

<mainpage> tag not working

Hello. Im new to miraheze and i has bug thay literally kills the code. <mainpage> literally dont work and displayed as plain text. Maybe i need any extension? I cant give screenshot because it block miraheze! Please help me! Максим Фединов (talk) 20:46, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you moved over from Fandom then you have to enable the DummyFandoomMainpageTags extension at Special:ManageWiki/extensions -> Parser hooks. Agent Isai Talk to me! 03:04, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many tags doesnt working

Hello what extensions i need for working tags <infobox>, <title source>, <default>, <format>, <group>, <header>, <label>? Thanks in advance User:Obossum721 (talk) 11:23, 13 September 2022 (MSK)

@Obossum721: Portable Infobox - PercyUK (talk) 09:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for help, but it doesnt work Obossum721 (talk) 09:39, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Obossum721: it's called PortableInfobox, it should be in "Parser hooks" tab. Bear in mind that such changes might take 5-10 minutes to actually start working, or you can manually purge pages to see them ("Purge" button is near "Edit", "History", etc). KatozzKita (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Extension was enabled at 9:39 (GMT+3), but 5 hours have already passed and nothing has changed, cache has been cleared 6 times Obossum721 (talk) 11:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is a translation issue. It is expecting wording to be in Russian but is English OR expecting wording to be in English but is Russian. I have created Шаблон:Stranosphere and <infobox> is working. - PercyUK (talk) 11:24, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It was bag with tabing in end of template. How i can add image to infobox? Obossum721 (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with templates

Hi. A template with a category in <includeonly> ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Stub ) works correctly, but in a template without a category ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Копипаста ) <br> appears below the main block ( https://polandballru.miraheze.org/wiki/Токугава ). What's the problem? Rairakkumee (talk) 13:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair dealing

I think there need to be a page on fair dealing because there's a new notice that notifies that in UK (Miraheze is based in said country), the country goes by fair dealing whereas for Americans like me we're used to fair use. From what I've gathered in this Wikipedia article, fair dealing applies to non-commercial study and research, though it has a limited application to things such as software & has to show how it applies. I run several video game-related wikis that use a lot of images that would, under U.S. law, qualify as fair use & need them to show how various character artwork, game screenshots, sprites, and so forth look like. My personal guess is that uploading media without caption or context is a violation of fair dealing, although I always strive to do add them for proper documentation.

Does anyone have any input on this? I feel there needs to be a user-friendly list of examples of what is allowed and what is not allowed. I think I'm okay, but a fair dealing page here would help minimize the risk of violating fair dealing, especially at the risk of wiki closure. Bawitdaba (talk) 12:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is something that should be included in a primer about how UK copyright law applies to Miraheze, in my opinion. "Fair Dealing" in the UK is different from "Fair Dealing" in Canada or "Fair Use" in the USA, so having a quick explanation and a short list of common cases would be useful. --Robkelk (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes -- I have stated to others before that I have set up U.S. fair use templates on my wiki before, although I've manually readded the UK fair dealing in my custom MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices, so there would be a bit of conflict.
I have wondered if the wikis I run recognize U.S. fair use while acknowledging that the host itself recognizes UK fair dealing due to being hosted within the UK, meaning that there cannot be conflict between the two & that fair dealing overrides fair use due to, again, where the location is hosted. If this is allowed I'd update the MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices accordingly. Perhaps I'd add that extra notice in Project:Copyrights because legal people are not likely to check Special:Upload Bawitdaba (talk) 13:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is quite complex since the UK only has case law about fair dealing but no statutory/clear definition of what it is. The best guide can be found on the UK Government webiste. While it may sound very vague it seems the main question is really just whether the use of the file in such a way is fair. While this isn't a legal opinion, I'd probably guess it can't be too far from the US definition of fair use (even though it is probably a bit stricter). Reception123 (talk) (C) 07:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Reception123: Would I be allowed to use U.S. fair use licensing templates on my wikis? I just ask because it would take all day for me to replace all of it to say "fair dealing." I can say in Project:Copyrights, MediaWiki:Uploadtext that although copyrighted files recognized under fair use, it cannot conflict with fair dealing due to Miraheze being based in the UK. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Name change please

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까?

message mix...

english + different speech = impossible

korea speech + ? = possible

i'm didn't know of 주문은 치노입니까 produce :(

주문은 치노입니까? produce trial's similar of impossible :(

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까? Name change ok?주문은 치노입니까 (talk) 04:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@주문은 치노입니까: Hello.Do you mean it's your wiki's name?You can change it in "Special:Managewiki/core" if you're bureaucrat of the wiki or have "managewiki" permission. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:27, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(Machine translation; 기계 번역) 사이트 이름을 변경하려면 "Special:ManageWiki/core"에서 변경할 수 있습니다. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like my account deleted (I'll explain why)

Hello. I was a former editor on the Miraheze "reception wikis", which consist of which are the best and worst. The negative ones are in particular controversial (which I won't explain), so I'd like my account to at least be deleted. I cannot change my username, I'd rather have it disappear until I can make a new one. I'm telling this mainly due to bad memories and regretting my contributions there, thank you! WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do know the negative one for TV shows in particular had an article named "celebt*rds" and implicitly defended Nickelodeon's most controversial creator (the guy behind Ren and Stimpy), but I won't provide any further context. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's impossible to delete accounts with MediaWiki. Stewards can lock and vanish your account, which can be requested on the Steward's noticeboard. Tali64³ (talk) 19:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to what Tali64³ have said , if you want to vanish your account according to the Data Request Process, please instead file a request at TSPortal, but not the Stewards’ noticeboard. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tali64³ @Matttest I see. Can I have my username changed, instead? And is it against the rules to move an account out of bad memories + contributions on controversial wikis? WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can, check Changing username for more info. However, note that it is impossible to scrub your contributions out from a wiki and your username on edits and pages. Even if you request a vanish via TSPortal, it's impossible to remove edits. Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Uncyclopedia should be open to public

When and why Chinese Uncyclopedia becomes a private wiki? As an editor of the wiki, I'm not informed about this and I can't ask reasons on the wiki because of lack of permission. As one of active uncyclopedias, I think it's reasonable to re-open to public. 全都是套路 (talk) 04:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Have you contacted sysop of Chinese uncyclopedia?I think you should do it if you've not done. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can't contact them, and they never read messages in the past. --全都是套路 (talk) 09:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Date-Based Content?

Me again. Where would I look for help on inserting date-based content on the home page? Like, a 'this day in history' box or a 'it's such-and-such character's birthday!' box. It's hard to phrase this in searches because I just end up getting results for adding different types of date formatting. Do I have to cook up some forbidden magic or do I just not know the right official term to search? (getting a random page of the day is not the function I'm looking for with this question, but if that exists I'd like to know about it too) Chantolove (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean something like:
  • a page that stores birthdays of every character
  • some code on the main page to show which character has birthday today
Or rather to show pages that are "tagged" with a certain date? It's surely possible but I'd need to know what exactly you need to help you further ^^ 21:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
@Chantolove: I use Magic Words and create a template for each day
Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} → Template:October 7
As I don't have a template for everyday, I include default message to avoid "this template does not exist"
{{#ifexist: Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}
| Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}
| No events today
}}
PercyUK (talk) 07:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, that's wonderful! Tysm!! I'll try my best to get that to work :> Chantolove (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Feedback: making syntax highlighting enabled by default

While visiting a few new wikis I noticed that syntax highlighting is not enabled by default. It's a really helpful tool that's also standard for most code editing software, which can help avoid simple syntax errors and make editing easier. And because it features a toggle, it can be easily disabled if anyone prefers to not use it at any time.
Advantages of having syntax highlighting by default:

  • It would make the source editor (and code editors) more accessible to beginner wiki editors, who might not even be aware it exists in the first place.
  • People who migrate from Fandom and are yet to learn about ManageWiki would expect for this feature to be enabled by default. This would make it more intuitive for them.
  • Marking it as default would make it more widespread on new wikis. It would be beneficial for editors who edit multiple wikis, and frequently use the multi-select feature the syntax highlighting enables.

Because syntax highlighting for wikitext and CSS/JS/Lua are handled by two different extensions (CodeMirror and CodeEditor respectively), I made a proposal for each.

Note: I was told those extensions may have an impact on performance and to mention @Universal Omega: in this post.

22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 1: Wikitext syntax highlighting by default

Make the CodeMirror extension enabled by default when a new wiki is created. Existing wikis would stay unaffected.

Support (1)

  1. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support as proposer. 22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support Long standing and widely used feature. Beneficial to both beginner and veteran editors alike. CodeMirror is a feature I frequently (read "nearly always") use myself, and also personally frequently forget to enable as part of my new wiki configuration process. dross (tcg) 22:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 22:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support Executive2 (talk) 10:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain (1)

Oppose (1)

Comments (1)

Proposal 2: CSS/JS/Lua syntax highlighting by default

Make the CodeEditor extension enabled by default when a new wiki is created. Existing wikis would stay unaffected.

Support (2)

  1. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support as proposer. 22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support Tab support is a must on any project requiring the editing of code. Seems like a quality of life improvement (technical concerns aside) for this to be enabled by default. dross (tcg) 22:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Symbol full support vote.svg Strongest support Useful. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 06:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Symbol support vote.svg SupportExecutive2 (talk) 10:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support Per above. -Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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How to change the side menu

 Andrey Eduardovich (talk) 09:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Instructions at Manual:Interface/Sidebar and on your wiki at MediaWiki:Sidebar --Rob Kam (talk) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with ProofreadPage and displaying transcribed books

I am hoping someone can provide some information regarding this issue, which I only noticed because I wanted to start up my transcribing projects again after a lengthy break.

I use the ProofreadPage extension and this has worked well in the past. Now there are missing tabs (previous, next and image tabs) and the side by side text and image page is now missing the image from the .djvu file as seen here on this random page Page:The_British_Blockade.djvu/12.

In addition to this, when all these pages are transcribed, they spliced together to form a complete document using the <pages> tag, such as: <pages index="The British Blockade.djvu" from=5 to=14 /> But, I keep getting an error: Error:No such file as seen on this page The British Blockade

Can someone shed some light if this has something to do with the latest updates causing this problem. If this no longer works, there has been a lot of transcribing work in the past wasted.

Thanks for any advice. Borderman (Talk) 10:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki?

Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki? If anyone of you are feminine and are into women's fashion. That wiki is the place to be. You can feel free to change the rules to say whatever you want. So, if any of you're wanting that. You can do that on there, but leave most of it the same. Unless, you feel like it needs surious correction. Kew1119 (talk) 02:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]