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Cannot create new page from search

Normally to create a MediaWiki page, you can simply search for the article in your search box. If the page is not found, MediaWiki will prompt you to create the page. However, on my wiki, I am not prompted to create a new page. I can create a new page if I create a link of a word that does not have a page, but I don't get the link to create a new page from searching a page that does not exist. Is there any feature that must be enabled? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arrobarriba (talkcontribs)

"Exception" error

Hello, and thank you again for your beautiful work!

My wiki is working well, but I have a problem when a new user has to set a new password at first access. The password input works, but after that I see a page which says (italian version):

Errore interno [6ed00020e037182f9468e092] 2020-01-16 10:55:53: Errore irreversibile di tipo "Exception"

Is it possible to fix it? (the best thing should be redirecting the user to a news page, like "Your account is ready, welcome and begin navigatioN"...

Why is new group in "Groups you cannot change" list?

I just created a new group (Editors2) to test. My current editors group members lost their ability to edit. I created a task on Maniphest (T5197). Meanwhile, I'm trying to set up a new group to see if it works better. But the group ended up in the column Groups you cannot change.

Lock edit function for non registered users?

Hello, how can I lock edit function for non registered users?

You can changed the permissions for anonymous users. Click on * in the Special:ManageWiki/permissions and click on "Sumbit". Then uncheck the things that allow them to edit.
I hope that helped! :) WickyHoney (talk) 22:42, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Flamebait/Trollbait Wikis

I have some concerns about wikis are are becoming flamebaits or trollbaits. Some of the wikis hosted here in Miraheze are probably triggering flamewars or trolling like Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki, Atrocious Deviants Wiki, & Atrocious YouTubers Wiki.

There are many complaints/rants from users outside Miraheze about these 3 wikis. These are possible samples: (1) (2)*.

*Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki moved to this site from FANDOM due to being a Trollbait/Flamebait.

Conclusion, I think the 3 wikis needs investigation. Zirukurt01 (talk) 02:39, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Well, looks like ED mentioned Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki in their article of Atrocious YouTubers Wiki. Now some ED noobs will ridicule these two. At least they admire some members. I'm gonna worry about Bleedman-Hater wars going to be intense because ED knew BM is a pedophile and not in Atrocious Deviants Wiki. --Zirukurt01 (talk) 19:33, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
@Zirukurt01: Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The matter should be looked into by a Steward shortly. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Oboy, that is really f-c-ing dramatic. PiotrGrochowski (talk) 19:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Did anyone do an investigation yet? I think this problem is serious. @Void: @Southparkfan: @開拓者:. --DeeM28 (talk) 09:12, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Void is looking into this. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (     around) 16:17, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki is not a trollbait/flamebait wiki; it just provides facts (not biased opinions) to each hatedom or fandom that can exist. Anyone that inserts bias will get blocked on the wiki. The wiki is informative, and not the kind for causing heat. I don't know about the other two wikis, but I am sure TF&HW is okay to exist. WickyHoney (talk) 20:33, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
I don't think what it really suppose to be, the wiki itself is becoming trollbait/flamebait. Even how hard you try to disprove it, it will become a trollbait/flamebait eventually. Those Pewdiepie Fans, T-Series Haters, Anti-Baby Boomers and other popular fandoms/hatedoms are all aware that TF&HW existed and may prepare an attack. Zirukurt01 (talk) 07:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
As you probably have seen I am in favor of the community role in Miraheze. The community has asked for an investigation into the wikis that may break the policies, but we have got no answers from Stewards about if it started or about its results. @Void: @Southparkfan: @開拓者: @John: Can we have an update? --DeeM28 (talk) 09:26, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Stewards will not be able to comment on open investigations. A review could take 2 months and a response will likely be made on completion. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (     around) 19:54, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
@Zirukurt01: You either have lost hope or have the gall to lie. New users can't even edit unless they message an Administrator for access, so trolls and vandals are unlikely. I have found articles that sound like they mock people or have seen biased pointers, but that's why editing exists. Why give up when we can just edit the blemishes away? Anyone that wants to help should work as a team to make the wiki as informative and up-to-date as possible. The new Admins are working on making things orderly and altruistic. What are you doing?
Are you that dense? @WickyHoney:? The admins are terribly outnumbered, i'm sure the pewds fans and memers are likely to troll first. If I interview Kiwifarms and ED admins (even if they're atrocious), they're likely to attack too. You're a spiteful opposser as i see. --Zirukurt01 (talk) 22:28, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
@Zirukurt01: Have you looked at yourself lately? You're the spiteful one. We have worked extensively to make the wiki great, and you want to throw all of that effort away. WickyHoney (talk) 22:37, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
What's the problem, can't feed enough trolls? I saved your asses from ED but now i knew it was a bad idea because i'm trying to stop the inevitable. --Zirukurt01 (talk) 04:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Let’s leave it guys. We don’t need to debate whose spiteful or not. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (     around) 06:11, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
I had a look and comparing it with the Content Policy, I don't find any real violations of the policy. It would be extremely useful to have evidence of specific examples to look at. On an off-topic note - the huge amount of reoccurring emails we receive regarding this wiki don't help the case being forward either. If anything, the existence of this wiki consumes our time by the number of people who email us the same content rather than the need to investigate issues. As a team, Stewards are extremely overran either in terms of personal, professional or other commitments in general/Miraheze specific. While we appreciate the time this has taken to get a response is not acceptable, the constant inundation of emails we receive does far from give us time to look at this matter. Therefore to summarise what I said - I don't see anything specific needing action here. I'd request people provide specific examples of things which violate the Content Policy or local policies and if possible - please attempt to resolve this locally before coming to us. We explicitly act in a capacity to fill holes where they exist - not to act as an overriding authority people can use to skip local community avenues. If these have been tried and have been unsuccessful - please also provide us examples of these too. Thanks, John (talk) 20:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer @John:, better late than never! While I may not agree with the action at least someone finally took the time to check the issue out and see if there are any violations and I understand that you would need more specific examples. DeeM28 (talk) 08:16, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Database error Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"

Hello,

I get the below Error when I try to confirm a new user

Unable to create account requests after review using "Extension:ConfirmAccount"


A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.

[XlqhX1j8TVgeQ-VWcDebrQAAAI8] 2020-02-29 17:37:35: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"

Links with apostrophes don't work

I was wondering if anyone was having issues with links that have apostrophes. I have noticed that when linking to another wiki page where the title has an apostrophe, the link still appears red as seen on this glossary page. Those pages definitely exist and typing in the search box those pages appear in the drop down list but clicking on the link takes you to the usual 'create page.' Is this a bug or are apostrophes in links just not allowed? Thanks. Borderman (Talk) 07:01, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

I'd call it a bug! Double- and triple-apostrophes are commands in wikicode because they never appear naturally in English, but single apostrophe often does. You can imagine that MediaWiki would choke if generating HTML starting with url='https:// and ending with the page name, but it ought to do the right thing! Can't diagnose it further. Your glossary page might work around this with a piped link, replacing apostrophe with %25. Spıke (talk)13:37 6-Mar-2020
@Spike: Thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't thought to try that but when I did it didn't work. The address of other apostrophe links show %27 but that didn't work either. I won't pretend I know anything about unicodes etc. I did a quick search for replacement apostrophe codes of which ' and &#apos; also didn't work, however, the right side single quotation mark ’ did work. The thing that I don't understand is I noticed there are two other links on that glossary page using an apostrophe and those links work. Go figure! Borderman (Talk) 17:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Then @Borderman:, in contrast with your opening, you are not having issues with links that have apostrophes, but rather issues with something else. I followed your link to view its source and see if there was another pattern that explains it, but I see no red-links at all (except to the page named Signs, and to the article's talk page). The HTML for the article does not use redlink=1 except in those two cases. In short, I'm unable to even reproduce your problem! Spıke (talk)01:18 8-Mar-2020
@Spike: Yeah, to be honest I don’t really know what was happening, it was all hit and miss but after using the syntax for the right side single quotation mark, everything was fine, ergo, no red links any more. I have created other pages with apostrophes in the title and subsequently included links to those pages also using apostrophes and those seemed to work. So I am at a loss but I know that ’ works if I encounter the issue again. Borderman (Talk) 09:09, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
@Borderman: I am no longer at a loss! One key to avoiding red-links is that the text in the link must be exactly the name of the page, and you may be one of the many editors who believes that those Curlicue Thingies are all interchangeable, just because they look similar! Spıke (talk)22:08 13-Mar-2020
@Spike: I think everyone has made a typo once or twice whilst doing links, which is why I proofread my edits and that particular newbie mistake is extremely rare. I have, however, noticed that depending on which device I am using dictates what kind of apostrophe or quotation marks is used (' or ’) ("" or „“) in the text editor. I didn't realise there were so many different unicodes so it was something new learnt this time round. Borderman (Talk) 20:46, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Deleting a wiki?

Hello wiki-persons! I've made a wiki that was a rather dumb mistake and too much of a hassle for me (wiki can be accessed here). How do I remove it?

Thank you, and happy editing. Dibbydib (talk) 00:09, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Edit: I have closed the wiki (it has however not been deleted) Dibbydib (talk) 23:29, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Wikis cannot be deleted by local admins, but can be marked as deleted by Stewards, and completely deleted from our database by Sysadmins. I've marked it as deleted per the comment above.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs | global🌎) 02:58, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

I can't log in on two specific wikis

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I can't seem to log in on TF&HW and HF&HW. I can log in on other wikis, but not those two. WickyHoney (talk) 18:56, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

I can log in again, but I still don't understand what's happening. It happened on two separate occasions and the first one lasted a while. I saw a pattern, but it's ridiculous so I won't mention it. WickyHoney (talk) 22:58, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

About system messages

What is the system message that allows me to edit this part "

This page was last edited on X X 20XX, at X:X.

Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) unless otherwise noted.

Privacy policy Help center Disclaimers Terms of Use Mobile view

" at the bottom of the page? please tell me.--虎之介 (talk) 13:53, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

This is not an answer, but I have been able to modify and discard parts of it with custom wiki-wide JavaScript at The Mirror. My changes do not take place on the mobile interface. Spıke (talk)15:35 17-Mar-2020
For the "last edited" line you can change that at MediaWiki:Lastmodifiedat and the "Content is available" line can be edited at MediaWiki:Copyright. Regarding the links, it depends what you want to do with them: hide, rename, remove etc. The Privacy Policy and Terms of Use link back to Meta; About and Disclaimers are pages on your own wiki. Changing the links, for example, to link it somewhere else is done using <a href=" link here </a> I believe but I can't remember where, sorry. Borderman (Talk) 20:31, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Just Putting It Here

I have two wikis that I don't have the time to work on, and I don't think I want them deleted. They are listed here. So if anyone is interested in adopting them, then you have my permission. WickyHoney (talk) 22:13, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Minutes of March 12th Directors' Meeting

Hi, the minutes from the previous Directors' meeting is available at File:Miraheze-Limited-Minutes-March-12th.pdf, along with the December 2019 - February 2020 Financial Summary at File:Miraheze-Limited-Financial-Summary-Dec-Feb-2020.pdf. Thanks, Owen (talk) 02:15, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser

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AutoWikiBrowser doesn't seem to want to accept the completely valid Miraheze wiki URL I added into "custom", in Preferences.

What root element is it talking about anyway? I don't need a root element. WickyHoney (talk) 03:27, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

WickyHoney For it to work, the url must be for example meta.miraheze.org/w/ with the "/w/". Of course by changing "meta" to the name of your wiki. Hispano76 (talk) 20:18, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Wow, I can't believe I was only three characters from success and didn't know it. WickyHoney (talk) 20:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Linking between wikis

i have two wikis on Miraheze, is it possible to directly link to an article between them, like I can with a page on Wikipedia? At the moment I am linking as an external website, but can it be done internally?Bertie (talk) 04:26, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

@Bertie: Hi. Yes, it is possible to do so! It is done in this format [[mh:wikiname:Pagename]]. For example, clicking on the following link will direct you to my username on testwiki, User:Reception123. Reception123 (talk) (C) 09:29, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Great, I thought there must be a way, now to try it out, thankyou!Bertie (talk) 21:12, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
If you want to supply your own legend, use the "pipe": [123's syntax|What you want it to say]]. In fact, you can link to anything on the Internet. Reception123 gave you the coding to link across to another wiki on Miraheze, but more generally you can use the single-bracket syntax, [URL How you want it to read]. Spıke (talk)01:29 23-Mar-2020

Request

[[1]] I request to return to the previous condition.I was going to translate it from English to Bengali At that time there has been little confusion for technical problems.Lēnin (talk) 12:28, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Can someone on the Atrocious YouTubers and Toxic Fandoms and Hatedoms wikis make me a autoconfirmed user?

I want to be part of those wikis, helping users out and such.

You can message an Admin on those wikis on their UserBoard and request access that way. WickyHoney (talk) 00:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Can someone please give me a very basic and easy to follow guide to creating infoboxes and infobox templates to use on my wiki? Thank you

I mean the subject says it all- I've been trying for hours to figure out how to get an infobox to appear. I would like to create a template for an infobox for cities- so that when I use it for multiple pages, each one about a city, there will be an infobox with facts such as when it was founded, where it is located, who rules it, etc. Everything I have found is written by experts for other advanced users, and extreme absolute beginners like me can't understand a single word. Would somebody know what to do- how to get this result?

From what I've tried, I've received a template loop error, and now all it comes up with is "Template:Infobox" in red, not even "Template:Infobox city" like what I had written. I have a page called Templaet:Infobox city which has some code that looks (for example) like:

{{Infobox | title = {{{name}}} | caption = {{{time}}} }}

and on the page where I want the infobox to appear, I have something (once again, just an example) like:

{{Infobox city | name = Babylon | time = 1894 BC - 1000 AD }}

The examples are just super basic and not actually what I use, but they're to the extent. If someone could please help me understand why the infobox is not appearing, instead saying there's a loop or plain red text, that would be much appreciated.

Side note, if I manage to understand how to get this up and running, having an image in the infobox would be much appreciated. I'm not sure if I'll be able to figure it out on my own, so if you want to explain how that works as well I won't be complaining :)

Thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claviclepatella (talkcontribs)

Welcome to Miraheze! Basically, typing {{TemplateName}} into a page simply copies ("transcludes") the text of the specified template and inserts it at that point. You've figured out how to pass parameters. There is no secret to getting images to appear; the code of the template, after being transcluded with the parameters substituted, simply has to make sense at its new home. If you are seeing "Template:Infobox" in red, it means that Template:Infobox doesn't exist on your wiki. Naturally, as your examples suggest that you named it "Infobox city". This part of the problem I suspect is the result of a simple typo.
MediaWiki's help page is here. Wikipedia and other wikis already have "Infobox city", as well as a generic template to build infoboxes for specific uses such as cities. Our FAQ may help you import their templates.
Two general tips: Find a wiki that's already doing what you want to do, and steal the code. Also, type what you want into the page without using a template, then transfer more and more of it into the template. But first, solve the naming problem! Spıke (talk)11:21 26-Mar-2020

Abuse Filter Problems.

I thought I had it, but I didn't. It didn't work and it just blocked editing all together. I was hoping someone here could inform me of how I can create a filter that can block certain words from being published? I thought I figured out a formula but I just fooled myself. It doesn't work. WickyHoney (talk) 05:04, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Careful with those abuse filters! Fortunately, editing an abuse filter is not "editing" and you should be able to go back in and undo your work; if not, contact a steward. At Uncyclopedia, we used to have a tool called "SpamRegex" (until Wikia took it away from us!) that does exactly what you want (using UNIX "regular expressions" for pattern-matching). Spıke (talk)11:23 26-Mar-2020