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Chill out, dude. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 05:59, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
IM NOT YELLING ITS JUST HOW I TYPE! :] /G Ghostie222 (talk) 06:05, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
First, all-caps equals yelling, so you are choosing to yell. Second, did you purge the page so that it would pick up the new settings, or just reload the old page from the wiki cache? --Robkelk (talk) 13:04, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair dealing

I think there need to be a page on fair dealing because there's a new notice that notifies that in UK (Miraheze is based in said country), the country goes by fair dealing whereas for Americans like me we're used to fair use. From what I've gathered in this Wikipedia article, fair dealing applies to non-commercial study and research, though it has a limited application to things such as software & has to show how it applies. I run several video game-related wikis that use a lot of images that would, under U.S. law, qualify as fair use & need them to show how various character artwork, game screenshots, sprites, and so forth look like. My personal guess is that uploading media without caption or context is a violation of fair dealing, although I always strive to do add them for proper documentation.

Does anyone have any input on this? I feel there needs to be a user-friendly list of examples of what is allowed and what is not allowed. I think I'm okay, but a fair dealing page here would help minimize the risk of violating fair dealing, especially at the risk of wiki closure. Bawitdaba (talk) 12:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is something that should be included in a primer about how UK copyright law applies to Miraheze, in my opinion. "Fair Dealing" in the UK is different from "Fair Dealing" in Canada or "Fair Use" in the USA, so having a quick explanation and a short list of common cases would be useful. --Robkelk (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes -- I have stated to others before that I have set up U.S. fair use templates on my wiki before, although I've manually readded the UK fair dealing in my custom MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices, so there would be a bit of conflict.
I have wondered if the wikis I run recognize U.S. fair use while acknowledging that the host itself recognizes UK fair dealing due to being hosted within the UK, meaning that there cannot be conflict between the two & that fair dealing overrides fair use due to, again, where the location is hosted. If this is allowed I'd update the MediaWiki:Uploadtext notices accordingly. Perhaps I'd add that extra notice in Project:Copyrights because legal people are not likely to check Special:Upload Bawitdaba (talk) 13:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is quite complex since the UK only has case law about fair dealing but no statutory/clear definition of what it is. The best guide can be found on the UK Government webiste. While it may sound very vague it seems the main question is really just whether the use of the file in such a way is fair. While this isn't a legal opinion, I'd probably guess it can't be too far from the US definition of fair use (even though it is probably a bit stricter). Reception123 (talk) (C) 07:23, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Reception123: Would I be allowed to use U.S. fair use licensing templates on my wikis? I just ask because it would take all day for me to replace all of it to say "fair dealing." I can say in Project:Copyrights, MediaWiki:Uploadtext that although copyrighted files recognized under fair use, it cannot conflict with fair dealing due to Miraheze being based in the UK. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Name change please

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까?

message mix...

english + different speech = impossible

korea speech + ? = possible

i'm didn't know of 주문은 치노입니까 produce :(

주문은 치노입니까? produce trial's similar of impossible :(

주문은 치노입니까 → 주문은 치노입니까? Name change ok?주문은 치노입니까 (talk) 04:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@주문은 치노입니까: Hello.Do you mean it's your wiki's name?You can change it in "Special:Managewiki/core" if you're bureaucrat of the wiki or have "managewiki" permission. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:27, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(Machine translation; 기계 번역) 사이트 이름을 변경하려면 "Special:ManageWiki/core"에서 변경할 수 있습니다. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like my account deleted (I'll explain why)

Hello. I was a former editor on the Miraheze "reception wikis", which consist of which are the best and worst. The negative ones are in particular controversial (which I won't explain), so I'd like my account to at least be deleted. I cannot change my username, I'd rather have it disappear until I can make a new one. I'm telling this mainly due to bad memories and regretting my contributions there, thank you! WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do know the negative one for TV shows in particular had an article named "celebt*rds" and implicitly defended Nickelodeon's most controversial creator (the guy behind Ren and Stimpy), but I won't provide any further context. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's impossible to delete accounts with MediaWiki. Stewards can lock and vanish your account, which can be requested on the Steward's noticeboard. Tali64³ (talk) 19:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to what Tali64³ have said , if you want to vanish your account according to the Data Request Process, please instead file a request at TSPortal, but not the Stewards’ noticeboard. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tali64³ @Matttest I see. Can I have my username changed, instead? And is it against the rules to move an account out of bad memories + contributions on controversial wikis? WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can, check Changing username for more info. However, note that it is impossible to scrub your contributions out from a wiki and your username on edits and pages. Even if you request a vanish via TSPortal, it's impossible to remove edits. Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Agent Isai I see. P.S. are Miraheze accounts linked to MediaWiki? Because I also have one on Wikipedia, with the same username. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 07:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I now requested a username change. I also added a reason that I no longer condone reception wikis for having implicitly right-leaning content. Feel free to change my signature all you want, I'm abandoning my old 2019 account after this since I don't want my old username tainted. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 07:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Uncyclopedia should be open to public

When and why Chinese Uncyclopedia becomes a private wiki? As an editor of the wiki, I'm not informed about this and I can't ask reasons on the wiki because of lack of permission. As one of active uncyclopedias, I think it's reasonable to re-open to public. 全都是套路 (talk) 04:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Have you contacted sysop of Chinese uncyclopedia?I think you should do it if you've not done. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can't contact them, and they never read messages in the past. --全都是套路 (talk) 09:34, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Date-Based Content?

Me again. Where would I look for help on inserting date-based content on the home page? Like, a 'this day in history' box or a 'it's such-and-such character's birthday!' box. It's hard to phrase this in searches because I just end up getting results for adding different types of date formatting. Do I have to cook up some forbidden magic or do I just not know the right official term to search? (getting a random page of the day is not the function I'm looking for with this question, but if that exists I'd like to know about it too) Chantolove (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean something like:
  • a page that stores birthdays of every character
  • some code on the main page to show which character has birthday today
Or rather to show pages that are "tagged" with a certain date? It's surely possible but I'd need to know what exactly you need to help you further ^^ 21:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
@Chantolove: I use Magic Words and create a template for each day
Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} → Template:December 9
As I don't have a template for everyday, I include default message to avoid "this template does not exist"
{{#ifexist: Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}
| No events today
PercyUK (talk) 07:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, that's wonderful! Tysm!! I'll try my best to get that to work :> Chantolove (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Working fine, I just had to tweak it to "{{Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}}}" in order to get the template contents to show.
Is the only way you know of to accomplish this by calling a template? It feels like I'm making a lot of pages for them each to have one or two lines of text on them. Is that just how things work round these parts? Chantolove (talk) 23:36, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chantolove: Create a switch template for each month imstead?

  • {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} would select the template
  • {{CURRENTDAY}} would select the day

Template:Birthdays List/September

{{#switch: {{{1}}}
|8  = Kanaya Mitarai
|21 = Rira Kanai
|23 = Ochiyo Inai
|27 = Hatsue Kozutsumi
|#default = No birthdays today

On your page


PercyUK (talk) 10:29, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Feedback: making syntax highlighting enabled by default

While visiting a few new wikis I noticed that syntax highlighting is not enabled by default. It's a really helpful tool that's also standard for most code editing software, which can help avoid simple syntax errors and make editing easier. And because it features a toggle, it can be easily disabled if anyone prefers to not use it at any time.
Advantages of having syntax highlighting by default:

  • It would make the source editor (and code editors) more accessible to beginner wiki editors, who might not even be aware it exists in the first place.
  • People who migrate from Fandom and are yet to learn about ManageWiki would expect for this feature to be enabled by default. This would make it more intuitive for them.
  • Marking it as default would make it more widespread on new wikis. It would be beneficial for editors who edit multiple wikis, and frequently use the multi-select feature the syntax highlighting enables.

Because syntax highlighting for wikitext and CSS/JS/Lua are handled by two different extensions (CodeMirror and CodeEditor respectively), I made a proposal for each.

Note: I was told those extensions may have an impact on performance and to mention @Universal Omega: in this post.

22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 1: Wikitext syntax highlighting by default

Make the CodeMirror extension enabled by default when a new wiki is created. Existing wikis would stay unaffected.

Support (1)

  1. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support as proposer. 22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support Long standing and widely used feature. Beneficial to both beginner and veteran editors alike. CodeMirror is a feature I frequently (read "nearly always") use myself, and also personally frequently forget to enable as part of my new wiki configuration process. dross (tcg) 22:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 22:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support Executive2 (talk) 10:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support I feel like it even might encourage new users, admins especially, to work more in source editor. Needless to say how handy it's gonna be for helping volunteers. KatozzKita (talk) 10:32, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support CodeMirror is very useful.--1108-Kiju/▶talk 07:32, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain (1)

Oppose (1)

Comments (1)

Proposal 2: CSS/JS/Lua syntax highlighting by default

Make the CodeEditor extension enabled by default when a new wiki is created. Existing wikis would stay unaffected.

Support (2)

  1. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support as proposer. 22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support Tab support is a must on any project requiring the editing of code. Seems like a quality of life improvement (technical concerns aside) for this to be enabled by default. dross (tcg) 22:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Symbol full support vote.svg Strongest support Useful. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 06:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Symbol support vote.svg SupportExecutive2 (talk) 10:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support Per above. -Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support Absolutely. KatozzKita (talk) 10:32, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support I am surprised that this extension was not defol... --1108-Kiju/▶talk 07:32, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Symbol support vote.svg Support --LisafBia (talk) 09:25, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments (2)


How to change the side menu

 Andrey Eduardovich (talk) 09:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Instructions at Manual:Interface/Sidebar and on your wiki at MediaWiki:Sidebar --Rob Kam (talk) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Does not work. You can see what code I have on this page, and the srt shows me in the side menu Andrey Eduardovich (talk) 18:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with ProofreadPage and displaying transcribed books

I am hoping someone can provide some information regarding this issue, which I only noticed because I wanted to start up my transcribing projects again after a lengthy break.

I use the ProofreadPage extension and this has worked well in the past. Now there are missing tabs (previous, next and image tabs) and the side by side text and image page is now missing the image from the .djvu file as seen here on this random page Page:The_British_Blockade.djvu/12.

In addition to this, when all these pages are transcribed, they spliced together to form a complete document using the <pages> tag, such as: <pages index="The British Blockade.djvu" from=5 to=14 /> But, I keep getting an error: Error:No such file as seen on this page The British Blockade

Can someone shed some light if this has something to do with the latest updates causing this problem. If this no longer works, there has been a lot of transcribing work in the past wasted.

Thanks for any advice. Borderman (Talk) 10:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki?

Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki? If anyone of you are feminine and are into women's fashion. That wiki is the place to be. You can feel free to change the rules to say whatever you want. So, if any of you're wanting that. You can do that on there, but leave most of it the same. Unless, you feel like it needs surious correction. Kew1119 (talk) 02:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's a good idea to offer the reins of what appears to be your personal wiki to anyone who asks Chantolove (talk) 23:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Columns For Beginners? (possible misuse of col-break template)

I am trying to use the "col-begin", "col-end", and "col-break" functions found here on the template wiki. This is happening. It's displaying a bunch of code junk from the col-break thing. All I'm trying to do is two equally-sized columns, and that part's not even working T_T Should I be using some different template

I've copied the 'col-begin', 'col-end', and 'col-break' templates into their own pages on my wiki exactly as they're used in the source code on Templates, minus the line about documentation. Chantolove (talk) 00:09, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chantolove: The templates include class= requiring to add the relevant code into MediaWiki:Common.css
I prefer to create a basic template which I can easily change


{| width="100%"
|- valign="top"
| width="50%" |
<!-- LEFT COLUMN -->
{{{left column|}}}

| width="50%" |
{{{right column|}}}

On the page

 | left column  = left column text
 | right column = right column text
PercyUK (talk) 11:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
tysm!! Chantolove (talk) 03:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The new version of the photo is not displayed

On my wiki new version of photo files is not displayed on pages. The old version is shown on thumbnails instead of new, even if old versions deleted. Cache deleting is not working. Thefirstdarkness (talk) 08:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you try:
  • Viewing the images in a different resolution like [[File:Example.png|123px]] (with your image name of course)
  • Viewing the pages on another device
  • Purging the pages with images
If any of this works, that means the images will update by themselves, they just need more time. Also, some browsers have a separate option to clear image cache, so there's a chance you didn't clear it. 14:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Ukrainian letter Ґ

Ukrainian letter «Ґ» is five letter of ukrainian alphabet, but on categories this letter is very last. Please, fix this problem. Thefirstdarkness (talk) 08:59, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK, this is an issue with MediaWiki itself, not with Miraheze. Most "special" characters are listed last, so that's expected behavior. I don't have an exact place where you can complain, but here is their site. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 00:22, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to get ParserFunctions StringFunctions enabled.

How do I get string function in the ParserFunctions extension enabled? I found a place tha an administrator needs to set $wgPFEnableStringFunctions = true; in LocalSettings.php. Is this where I ask for that? Thanks Lifelonglearner (talk) 00:00, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Lifelonglearner. You can enable $wgPFEnableStringFunctions in ManageWiki at Special:ManageWiki/settings. Happy editing! dross (tcg) 07:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding CSS Page Doesn't Work?

Trying to add a css page (shamelessly yoinked from wikipedia, admittedly- who knew colored textboxes would be such a quest), but it doesn't work. It just shows up as plain code. I don't have permission to use changecontentmodel on my site, either. Chantolove (talk) 04:01, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Chantolove. Sorry you're having so much trouble with this. The CSS you're trying to use relies on the TemplateStyles extension. This can be enabled at Special:ManageWiki/extensions. In order to change the content model of the page, you'll first need to assign the editcontentmodel permission to the proper group for your wiki. You can do this with Special:ManageWiki/permissions. Once you have done this, the content model may be changed at Special:ChangeContentModel/Template:Divbox/styles.css. Happy editing! dross (tcg) 07:19, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Chantolove: As Wikipedia has millions of pages, its templates are complex to accommodate all the needs. As your wiki will use it the same way, a basic system can be used:
  1. create Template:Divbox
  2. create Template:Divbox/styles.css (as I use Lua → Module:Divbox/styles and Module:Divbox for the switch)
My alternative → Test Wiki
PercyUK (talk) 17:17, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thoughts on combining them with the 2col template to fill the whole space? Or do I need to hunt for a more advanced way to have larger boxes Chantolove (talk) 23:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Chantolove: Template:2Col style (background color) and content (No birthdays today) needs to be separated. The color schemes are stored in {{#invoke:divbox|color|<colorname>}} I have edited Template:2Col which gives it flexibilty and an example on New header testing.
PercyUK (talk) 06:56, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions footer

I would like to add a contributions footer to my wiki, like the one on Meta. How would I do this? ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 18:53, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Steward will need to handle this request, as $wgMaxCredits requires managewiki-restricted. Which wiki is this request for? dross (tcg) 07:34, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Legend of Dark Witch Wiki ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 10:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, $wgMaxCredits doesn't seem to fit what I want to do. I would like to add the thing on the bottom of the contributions page (picture below). ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 11:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer --坑触可 (talk) 12:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 12:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Costume explore section.


Hello, I wanted to do a costume explore section on the CountryHumans Wiki, however I don’t know how to do it. Any suggestions? KumihoWolffey (talk) 19:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The explore section is a part of top navigation of the Cosmos skin. You can customize the top navigation on MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation. See the Cosmos skin documentation for more details. Hope that helps! ^^ 22:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Are reception wikis banned from being created?

I noticed in the farmer logs that some reception wiki requests were declined. Are they banned? Nidoking (talk) 12:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No but they are subject to higher scrutiny due to the nature of them. Direct recreations of closed reception wikis are not allowed at the moment as they'd constitute a direct fork of a project which is prohibited by the Content Policy. Agent Isai Talk to me! 13:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But once the wikis disappear, would it be possible to recreate them here. Or move them over to a different wiki service that uses MediaWiki Nidoking (talk) 16:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can move these wikis whenever to another host, we aren't stopping you. The database dumps are available on Qualitipedia Central. Agent Isai Talk to me! 16:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It would be possible to recreate them after the six month period passes and the wikis are permanently deleted, but that of course would be subject to them respecting the Content Policy. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just realized The New Reception Wiki is now banned/closed. So I believe they are actually banned from Miraheze... Nidoking (talk) 12:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It was closed by Reception123 for being mostly a clone of Qualitipedia's content, not necessarily because it was a reception wiki. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 13:23, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Nidoking: Indeed, ZeusDeeGoose is right. Creating reception wikis is not banned. Creating clones/forks of the ones that were closed following a community vote is however not allowed because they are direct forks of those wikis and that is not allowed by the Content Policy. Do note that that was the will of the Qualitipedia network/community. The only way the content from these wikis can be revived on Miraheze is either waiting until the other ones are permanently deleted or creating a new RfC which has already been tried and has been rejected. New reception wikis are allowed but the same exact content being copied isn't. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Qualitipedia topic ban and user conduct

It has become clear since the announcement of the closure of Qualitipedia on Miraheze that many Qualitipedia community members continue to maintain a strong attachment to the projects. Unfortunately, through several warnings, Blubabluba9990 has continued to insist that the closure be overturned and/or Qualitipedia users be allowed to create forks or clones of existing Qualitipedia projects. This extreme attachment, while not inherently disruptive, have become not only annoying, but disruptive from this user. Blubabluba9990 has also consistently refused to take a wikibreak.

Some users have also responded to this behavior inappropriately. I am proposing that the community impose appropriate bans for these users to ensure collaborative community interactions between users and topics. dross (tcg) 04:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal 1 (Qualitipedia topic ban for Blubabluba9990)

Blubabluba9990 is forbidden from discussing Qualitipedia on Miraheze Meta, except when requesting technical assistance with existing content on Qualitipedia projects listed at List of wikis or Qualitipedia central.

Support (1)

  1. It is unnecessary and disruptive for these conversations about Qualitipedia to continue to occur on Meta. Dumps and the technical assistance required to use exported content should remain as it already has. dross (tcg) 04:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Symbol full support vote.svg Strongest support Overly long conversations about QP on Miraheze Meta is not only disruptive, but also completely unnecessary (this include me posting unnecessary crap to Bluba's talk page). Notable exceptions to this are technical assistance on using exported content from these wikis. TF3RDL (talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia) 11:10, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support I'm with the others on this; it's time for others to move on. I'm not as knowledgeable on Qualitipedia like some the others (as I was never a core part of that community). Whether they establish a reception wiki outside of Miraheze is their decision (and perhaps their burden to bear if drama follows them there, they lose respect from others who agreed to the closures, etc.). Over here (in a divided vote) others ultimately agreed to close it, and there's no point in revisiting the same subject several times. Bawitdaba (talk) 11:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Symbol full support vote.svg Strongest support I've given this kid the benefit of the doubt here, but he's been testing our patience for so long that it's practically unavoidable. At this point, my patience on this user has just ran out. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 12:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support This ought to help him end his obsession and find something productive to do. Marxo Grouch (talk) 14:40, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This is productive though. Even though not much progress has been made on the revival, there is discussion of possibly reopening NRW and starting the pages over from scratch there, though that discussion seems to have come to a dead end. Also, I am the de facto vice president of the Qualitipedia Government in Exile and thus partially responsible for the day to day affairs of the Qualitipedia remnants. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Symbol support vote.svg Support KumihoWolffey, Aka CameralTea (talk) 18:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Symbol support vote.svg Support Okay, every time I try to give another opening for sanity it seems to be squandered with more railing and more demonstrated inability to tackle subject matter in a way that doesn't make a mess, so I'm going to + this and recommend thoughts of a more permanent solution perhaps by RfC to ensure the involved wikis have absolutely no future on the platform as well since there is still leeway for them to be resurrected as closed. --Raidarr (talk) 23:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    NOǃ DO NOT DO THATǃ The wikis need to be savedǃ The Qualitipedia Government in Exile shall prevailǃǃǃ Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    what -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 23:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Raidarr suggested that the wikis be barred from returning on the platform, but he should not do that. Also I suggested forming a Qualitipedia Government in Exile consiting of the remnants of Qualitipedia and all of the users who still want Qualitipedia to continue. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Why? The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 23:57, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't knowǃ Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If you don't know why you formed the "government in exile" as you put it, then you probably aren't one to speak for the community. Marxo Grouch (talk) 14:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Spare me the all cap bolded prepubescence. Perhaps a meta admin action to cut this down at the roots is the better idea. --Raidarr (talk) 23:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Noǃ Do not cut this down at the roots. You will never stop the Qualitipedia Government in Exile. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Right now the Qualitipedia Government in Exile may just be a ragtag team of former Qualitipedia users, but someday we shall return Qualitipedia to its former glory and it will be the future of entertainment. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It's amazing how you don't realize how demented your made-up concepts of 'government' and endless obsession with the wikis actually sounds. The more you post the more you are fueling the reason why it should be ejected permanently from the platform, and from the internet in general. Utterly cringeworthy. --Raidarr (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    In the future, refrain from typing in all caps. It makes you sound like you're yelling, and that won't get you anywhere. The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 23:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Symbol support vote.svg Support The disruptiveness of Bluba constantly wanting Qualitipedia to reopen is absolutely unproductive. Everything ends at some point; some good, some bad, but in the end, the only thing that matters is how you spent your life, and if you spent your entire life on Qualitipedia, I feel bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bukkit (talkcontribs)
  10. Symbol support vote.svg Support per above. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (1)

  1. Symbol full oppose vote.svg Strongest oppose Where else am I supposed to discuss the issues going on? Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps Whiki Bawitdaba (talk) 15:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    But where on Whiki. The wikis may not even be revived on Whiki and there is still discussion on Agent Isai's talk page to reopen NRW and revive the current wikis. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    You can request your own wiki here. Tali64³ (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There also doesn't seem to be a revival on Whiki given that FatBurn, who is in charge of the Qualitipedia Government in Exile, does not want the wikis to be imported off of Miraheze and instead wants to start the pages over from sratch on The New Reception Wiki, assuming it ever reopens. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Under the provisions of the ban, you would still be welcome to discuss any technical concerns, especially related to moving the content to a new wiki or platform. It would prohibit, for example, discussion of the closure of Qualitipedia wikis or a "need" to preserve/reopen such projects, as such proposals have already been officially denied or found in violation of consensus/policy. dross (tcg) 18:10, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well they overlap, which makes this problematic, since I kind of need to bring up their closure to discuss moving them. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:24, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Frankly, if you can't figure out how to discuss taking dumps and moving them to a new wiki without bringing up the old QP community/wikis, that's your own problem. "I'm going to download a dump of wiki QPX, and import it here" does not require any reference to the closure RfC or any previous members. dross (tcg) 18:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There is overlap. It is impossible to discuss Qualitipedia's future without mentioning Qualitipedia. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not an outright ban of mentions of Qualitipedia. This restricts your discussion on Meta to technical questions about Qualitipedia only. dross (tcg) 22:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    But then how will I discuss issues on Qualitipedia. We are going full circle. How will I talk about Qualitipedia's future without talking about what happened on Qualitipedia. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There are tons of reception wikis where you can discuss Qualitipedia's future. There is even a wiki about reception wikis that exists, named Reception Wikis Wiki. The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 23:59, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well there's an easy answer to this: I guess you don't. You drop it and move on. --Raidarr (talk) 11:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain (1)

Comments (1)

  1. The big problem is that I think this preceeds having a proper meta admin step-in to say 'woah cool off' and warning to minimize the issue. We're going from no warning to high community sanction. I'd like to see that warning take place, only then followed by topic bans - especially since a large portion of the comments are taking place on Bluba and Fatburn's talk pages, which should be entirely acceptable. That said I'm not fond of when it spills to central noticeboards. But again, that's where the warning/advisory comes in first. I do understand the frustration that made this come about. --Raidarr (talk) 13:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Ordinarily, I agree. I have been rather surprised that we have not yet seen such a warning, which I believe is contrary to community expectation. I would hope this can be characterized as a bold community action in the absence of expected admin action. It's more cooperative than it is to undermine admins. dross (tcg) 18:15, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal 1.1 (Topic ban satellites)

Blubabluba9990 is forbidden from discussing Qualitipedia on the Miraheze Discord server, Miraheze IRC channels, and Phabricator.

Support (1.1)

  1. There is no good reason to allow the discussion to continue on other Miraheze channels. dross (tcg) 04:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Symbol support vote.svg Support The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 12:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support If it's to be forbidden here, it should be forbidden in other parts of Miraheze as well. Bawitdaba (talk) 13:01, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (1.1)

  1. Symbol full oppose vote.svg Strongest oppose I don't have a discord anyway, so this is kind of pointless. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  2. I will second above as Bluba is not present on any of the mentioned places and never struck me as willing to reach out to them. For phabricator especially it would be just plain off topic to be an issue and can be handled normally. --Raidarr (talk) 13:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Pointless as Bluba has not accessed any of the places mentioned in the proposal. Marxo Grouch (talk) 14:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per Raidarr and others. Tali64³ (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Per bluba's comments and others LovingHaydeL (talk to me uwu!) 13:21, 2 October 2022 (PST)
  6. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose The disruptiveness mainly occurs on metawiki, where there isn't much of a designated place for off-topic discussion, where as on Discord/IRC, there are #miraheze-offtopic channels. Discussion on Phabricator would be extremely disruptive and would most likely result in a warning and/or account being disabled on there. Even if Bluba were to make an account and join the server, as long as he's not disruptive, I don't see any reasons to ban him from discussing about Qualitipedia. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 23:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 00:01, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain (1.1)

  1. Symbol neutral vote.svg Abstain as there's not really a point if he doesn't use it, but if he decides to start after coming to dead ends on here, then this should be reconsidered. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments (1.1)

Proposal 2 (Interaction ban for TF3RDL & Blubabluba9990)

Users TF3RDL and Blubabluba9990 are forbidden from interacting with each other on Miraheze Meta as described at WP:IBAN. Interactions off Meta which result in conflict should be construed as ban evasion.

Support (2)

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support The only contributions of TF3RDL on Meta have been to antagonize Blubabluba9990, and are primarily speaking on missing authority and extremely out of turn.Examples: 1 2 3 4 dross (tcg) 04:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Now I realize that my interactions with Bluba is very disruptive (mini-modding, comparing him to a MOAB Glue and unnecessarily requesting for global ban on him), which is inconsistent with WP:DENY. Because of this, I will accept indefinite partial blocks (preventing me from editing his talk page). TF3RDL (talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia) 11:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support This whole debacle between him and Bluba is getting out of hand beyond any reasonable doubt here. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:37, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support The Goose Named Zeus (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 12:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I sincerely apologize for my obsession with getting Bluba blocked (which is disruptive and I should refrain from doing that) and a MOAB Glue (which is from BTD6/BTDB2, therefore absolutely nothing to do with your disruptive behavior). I've shouldn't respond to @Blubabluba9990 for getting you blocked or even globally locked, nor requesting a global ban for you. TF3RDL (talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia) 18:17, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm still confused why you're always talking about glue? -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 23:38, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh I realized saying MOAB Glue in regards to my response to Bluba's behavior is not only disruptive but also expletive as the Glue Gunner doesn't exist in real-life. TF3RDL (talk | contribs | FANDOM | Wikipedia) 10:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Symbol partial support vote.svg Weak support Per above in preferring a proper oversight warning, and since the initial pushback TF3 has toned down his approach. However he's gone an extra mile overall and I am somewhat concerned. This would be a reasonable step. --Raidarr (talk)
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support From what I've seen of the beef between these two, this has gotten out of hand. An interaction ban should suffice. Marxo Grouch (talk) 14:44, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Symbol full support vote.svg Strongest support He has tried to bet Bluba blocked numerous times, even making a RfC just to ban him. He crossed the line when he told everyone he deserved to be blocked when the topic was about HIS YOUTUBE CHANNEL, that it forced me to tell him to stop. With this, it's better if they stay apart. LovingHaydeL (talk to me uwu!) 7:47, 2 October, 2022 (PST)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg Support The disputes between these users have gotten out of control. Tali64³ (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Symbol support vote.svg Support per above. Raichu's Endless Nights (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (2)

Abstain (2)

Comments (2)

issues connecting to some my wikis

This might just be a temporary thing, but wikis such as Pokemon Wiki, Nintendo Wiki, and DQ Wiki are returning "Connection refused (db121)" errors Bawitdaba (talk) 10:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

db121 was temporarily down today, but it is now back up. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh i see now, thank you Bawitdaba (talk) 12:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]