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Regarding Category:Wikipedia indefinitely semi-protected pages

Hi, I was wondering why you chose to call it "Wikipedia indefinitely" rather than use Meta instead. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Reception123:, I think I did that because it matched the template imported from English Wikipedia, as the template added that redlinked category, so I just opted to create the category. In the course of some of the editing I've been doing, I've noticed other experienced editors like @Amanda Catherine: doing the same thing, which reaffirmed whether I should've renamed the template first. I have nothing against fixing the category the template is calling and then moving, without leaving a redirect, the category to the new name if you or an administrator want to do that. In fact, I'd actually probably favour that. --Dmehus (talk) 13:51, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it should probably be changed on the templates and then moved, as it's confusing to have a category that mentions Wikipedia here. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:32, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your RfC

Hello,

Being enthusiastic is a good thing but please get more involved in the community before creating RfCs on policy. We have a very different structure to most Wikimedia Wikis like you might be used to. I strongly suggest logging onto IRC and discussing these things with us so you can get our insight first.

We are always open to new ideas but I don't want you to waste time on things that will quickly be shut down. Please do also be aware that if this happens regularly, you could face a topic ban.

Thanks,

~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (on) 21:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't use IRC, but do use Discord. Are you, and others, not as active on Discord as you are on IRC? I also don't want to waste my time on RfCs. What prompted it was the issue that arose on the Stewards' noticeboard about the abuse filter not allowing users to submit a global user page with external links in it (like your global user page) even after they've bypassed the CAPTCHA. You're a local Administrator here on Meta and have the technical aptitude and competence to modify the abuse filter and make other changes, so you were top of my mind in my thought that it would make sense for local Meta admins and Global Sysops to be added as the sort of users that can assist the stewards and system administrators with maintaining Login wiki. Dmehus (talk) 21:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Discord is fine! I understand why you might think certain things but what's great in your head based on Wikimedia might not be for us. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (on) 22:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Surprisingly, I hadn't navigated to the Main Page on Login wiki and I do see there is not supposed to be any content outside of user or user talk pages and a minimal number of templates, but perhaps we could create a single page here on Meta that describes how Login wiki is governed and managed (not a long page; something minimal, like our other Meta content pages). Included within that page, could, potentially be a brief narrative that describes the process by which System Administrators or Stewards may appoint local administrators or bureaucrats on Login wiki to assist them with managing that wiki only? Also, are you a local administrator on Miraheze Commons? I noticed that the Administrators' noticeboard there is a redlink. I'd love to discuss with you on Discord some ideas I have to developing brief local policies for Commons. I agree that minimal policies are generally better. Dmehus (talk) 22:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

June 2020

Hi,

Please stop getting involved in situations you do not understand. You are not helping and in many cases are spreading advice that is simply wrong, not helpful at all and stepping on other peoples toes. You may be partially blocked from Noticeboards if you can not stick to answering things that you actually understand.

Thanks,

~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (on) 06:21, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please note that since Miraheze works differently than many other sites you may be used to before answering to such questions at the beginning it is important that you ask more experienced editors how things work around here. If you are unsure of an answer, it is often best not to post it as it may inadvertently cause confusion or may be incorrect. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
hey @RhinosF1 and Reception123: I'm definitely trying to understand the processes around here, though it's, perhaps, a little difficult with the overlapping responsibilities between system administrators and stewards. I'm happy to step away from answering questions on the Stewards' noticeboard, limiting my involvement to minor things like adding {{unsigned}} signature information to users' posts or comments who have forgotten to add them, and to instead focusing my responses at the Community noticeboard on topics I fully understand. Where I'm uncertain, I'll reach out to one of you. Dmehus (talk) 14:42, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for understanding. You shouldn't be discouraged to help out, it's just better that you get used to things work and feel free to ask me about anything at any time :) Reception123 (talk) (C) 09:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am also quite new to the Miraheze project and for now I only check Meta every once in a while and comment on RfCs because I don't know much about it but I think we need to be nicer and more understanding to the new people and help them understand how this project works because also when I first joined it was confusing and hard to get used to the rules that you have here. DeeM28 (talk) 10:00, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Reception123 and DeeM28: Thanks both for your messages, and to @RhinosF1: above as well. One of this project's strengths is that it doesn't have very many policies and guidelines, in contrast to the Wikimedia projects (especially English Wikipedia) which have so many policies, guidelines, and so forth that they're either to possibly know them all or they come into conflict with each other. I think, in my case, I was encouraged by that ability to just use common sense and boldly help out. This caused me to participate a little bit too excessively on the stewards' noticeboard in answering questions on which I wasn't 100% certain, particularly after seeing some unanswered questions at the top of that noticeboard and even some be archived by the bot without an answer. This wasn't that I was intentionally giving out the wrong information or anything, of course, but it wasn't helpful, in several cases.
This is just my personal opinion, but I know we go to some degree of effort to say how we do things differently, and arguably better, I'd argue, than the Wikimedia projects. However, I think we're trying to have the stewards' noticeboard do too much, if that makes sense. For reports of cross-wiki vandalism and long-term abuse and some other things, it generally works pretty well, but I do think for things like requests from wiki owners to delete their wikis, rename their wikis, and those sort of things, I think we should expand the scope of Phabricator by creating a "steward requests" form. On that form, it could list briefly the types of requests handled in that way. Since volunteers so regularly monitor Phabricator and Discord, I think we'd have a better handle overall of tracking, triaging, and answering requests. Phabricator is still publicly available, just like the wiki, so anyone can look old tickets. As well, its search functionality may be more robust that the MediaWiki search function, so could be utilized by customers for seeing if another customer had a similar problem. It may even have a module built-in, or that could be added, that would allow the system administrators and/or stewards to build a searchable knowledgebase of past questions. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your reply on steward board

Hi sorry I saw your message late anyways I’m messaging you about the message reply on steward board I didn’t hear anything back from it and sorry for no reply I just saw it tonight Have you heard anything back on it however? --Cocopuff2018 04:30, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Cocopuff2018: It looks like Void has followed up with you on the stewards' noticeboard. I would've only been able to reply to say that if you have not heard back from a steward, it may be because there are guidelines which prevent them from replying publicly and that your best bet is probably to follow-up via e-mail to stewards[at]miraheze[dot]org, which Void has now recommended. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 20:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Dmehus, Could you help me import Some templates to the canimals wiki only miraheze(Even though you mostly likely have never seen it)? Link: https://canimalswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page --Μπέλα2006 (talk) 17:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: I've got some things to do today and tomorrow. Can it wait till Wednesday or so? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah Ok--Μπέλα2006 (talk) 18:21, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dmehus: Now that it is Wednesday, could you now help me?--Μπέλα2006 (talk) 17:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrol

Hello,

Per your own request and improved behaviours and attempts to learn, I have restored autopatrolled. Please continue with your progress as your help is much appreciated. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - (on) 10:25, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RhinosF1:, thank you. Please let me know if my performance slips, too. Dmehus (talk) 13:57, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A note about wiki request comments

Hi,

Just a note that until phab:T5578 is implemented, simply leaving a comment on an open wiki request does not notify the user, and therefore unless they are watching their request in the queue/farmer log they will not see it. As such, when a wiki request needs more information, consider marking the request as "declined" in addition to putting a comment so that the user will receive a ping and will be more likely to do something about it. Amanda Catherine (talk) 19:41, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. Yeah, I wondered if the user got notified of comments. Now I see why you are more liberal with your "declines," to get them to respond to it and resubmit the request. I had been messaging them on their user talk page for some of them, but it's a fair bit of work. I might try and do what @MrJaroslavik: has started doing and substitute some canned messages from my userspace, but your approach does the trick as well. ;) Dmehus (talk) 20:01, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apology

@Dmehus: I am sorry, I regretted making that request.--Μπέλα2006 (talk) 19:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: No worries. It's forgotten. No one will probably notice it; I suspect users rarely trawl through declined wiki requests. Feel free to submit a new wiki request anytime. I haven't forgotten about your message above; I'm working on something in real life right now, so have to postpone you 2-3 more days. Dmehus (talk) 19:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Speaking of wiki, would you help me with the unpleasant apps wiki (one of the wikis I own) to add templates?--Μπέλα2006 (talk) 19:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Link: https://cringyapps.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page --Μπέλα2006 (talk) 19:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

@Dmehus: I just opened a new wiki called Dreadful Restaurants and Food wiki (Link: https://dreadfulrestaurantsandfoodwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page), I already seem to have problems with it in terms of importing templates, so could you help me?--Μπέλα2006 (talk) 15:51, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: Wow, you, and others, have already created a lot of content pages and done a lot of work on that wiki in a short span of time. While it's a brightly coloured wiki, the user interface is at least passably readable. My only suggestions would be to (1) add the usual "tools" links as seen on here on Meta in the sidebar, as I find them handy points of reference for quickly looking up a user's block log, the user's rights, and special e-mail link and (2) at least consider making the standard wiki page the default, with the option to switch to a SocialProfile userpage (I've seen this done on some wikis, so should be possible).
As for importation, what, specifically, is your issue? Also, are you using fileupload importation of an XML file or import by transwiki? Most people usually use transwiki importation, though, interestingly, I've only used the former. Dmehus (talk) 00:02, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

@Dmehus: Hello Dmehus. ㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 16:53, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: Thanks for the Twinkle talkback test. Hello! Dmehus (talk) 00:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

Hello Dmehus! I am here to just write you a message. I know what I did at the test wiki was wrong. I have taken time to look at rules for both meta and test wiki, and I would like to apologize for my actions. I do realize that they were completely inappropriate, and did not contribute at all to the project. When I get unblocked on August 1st, I will be constructive there, and I will not block users there unless they are posing an immediate threat to the wiki that cannot be waited for a consul to intervene. Again, I apologise, and I would like to eventually come back to the project. With regrets, TFFfan (talk) 15:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TFFfan: No worries; I will be glad to have you back on TestWiki come August 1st. Your investigation of the behaviour of that user was useful and entirely good-faith, but it was just a matter of you over-stepping. When you do come back, based on RhinosF1's message on your user talk page, it does sound like he has not made it mandatory for you to wait 30 days before re-requesting administrator privileges and a further 14 days for 'crat, but rather a strong suggestion. I would concur with that completely. Whether you do decide to wait those timelines or request earlier, my suggestion, and it's only that, is that you have a look at the voluntary editing restrictions on the TestWiki:Editing restrictions page I made on TestWiki. This would act as a governor on you because, if in doubt, before taking any action, you can always double-check with that page to see whether that action would find you in breach of your voluntary editing restriction. The voluntary restriction(s) I would recommend would be creating abuse filters on only subpages of your User: userspace before running it by a Consul. Since it's a voluntary restriction, you could define the parameters for lifting it (whether you can lift it unilaterally at a set point or you must appeal to the community noticeboard after a set point). Come August 1st, come to my user talk page on TestWiki and we can discuss this more there. Dmehus (talk) 15:46, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for any confusion

IDK if you saw my RequestWiki description edit, because you declined it even though I edited it and explained what an AU is. You can check again tho, and hopefully you'll approve it (I rewrote the entire thing) Creeper72 (talk) 02:02, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Creeper72: That makes much more sense! AU meaning Alternate Universe helps me a lot. It's basically a fictional worldbuilding wiki related to your topic, correct? Also, you mentioned in the original request that it may have some NSFW content, is that correct? If not, let me know and I'll update the comments as I added that in the comments. Otherwise, your wiki has been created.
The reason we decline wikis when requesting more information is because of a known issue in the CreateWiki extension that doesn't notify the requestor unless their wiki is either (a) created or (b) declined. So, often people don't realize we're requesting more information unless we decline it. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 02:06, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Yes, it is worldbuilding
  2. 100% sure in the first version of the request I specifically said "zero NSFW content," maybe just seeing the abbreviation gave you the opposite message
  3. Ok, good to know! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creeper72 (talkcontribs) 02:23, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Minor Barnstar Hires.png The Minor barnstar
Thank you for always fixing the most minor things, such as an extra colon for a paragraph, or fixing a minor formatting error. That makes the wiki look much better in general. You really deserve this! TFFfan (talk) 13:45, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Soo...

Does a wiki always have to be about a specific topic, or can it just be a general collection of knowledge, like Wikipedia? Please respond. Regards, ^sithjarjar^ (talk) 19:00, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@^sithjarjar^: Each wiki should have a specific topic or some sort of clear description as to its purpose and scope, in my view, as it provides something for the stewards to fall back on in the event of a future problem with that wiki in terms of whether or not it strayed from its original purpose. If you can define your purpose and scope a little better, I'd be willing to approve your amended wiki request, provided you that provide on-wiki confirmation that this approval does not preclude other Wikipedia clones from being approved. Dmehus (talk) 20:32, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It should be a lot better now; I didn’t mean to submit it that time. Should be better now... ^sithjarjar^ (talk) 20:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@^sithjarjar^: So just to clarify, you understand that this approval does not preclude other Wikipedia clones from being created, and that you expressly acknowledge that you will not have the monopoly on an English Wikipedia wiki, as a topic, correct? Dmehus (talk) 20:43, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this wiki is not ‘’about’’’ the english wikipedia, it’s similar in ‘’purpose’’ to the English Wikipedia. But yes, I understand that I do not have a monopoly on this wiki. ^sithjarjar^ (talk) 20:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I understand that, but you can give me a better topical focus at all? It can be human knowledge, but English Wikipedia is a rather large encyclopedia. Will you be focusing on particular subjects at all, or if all subjects, how will you be doing it differently? For example, there's Simple English Wikipedia, as an alternate form. How will yours be different? With that information, I have enough to approve here. Dmehus (talk) 20:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It’s a lot better defined now... ^sithjarjar^ (talk) 21:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@^sithjarjar^: Okay, I have approved this. Don't make me regret it. ;-)
Can you see my comments at the 14:08 (UTC -07:00) and 14:14 (UTC -07:00) timestamps at Special:RequestWikiQueue/13352#mw-section-comments and confirm, on-wiki, and by reply to this discussion that my approval conditions and understanding are accurate? That is, your Reborn Wikipedia will have fewer, if any, stub-class (or below) articles and that it will have its own notability policies but they may be different than English Wikipedia's? I think that's enough of a differentiator. :) Dmehus (talk) 21:17, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@^sithjarjar^: Also, I took the liberty of modifying your hostname from Enwiki to enwiki, rather than declining the request again as malformed/invalid, because hostnames/subdomains cannot contain capitalized letters. I trust that's okay. Dmehus (talk) 21:20, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yes, your conditions are accurate. I will try my very best to uphold them on this wiki, though I am only human. Thank you for creating the wiki! Regards, ^sithjarjar^ (talk) 21:23, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@^sithjarjar^: Okay, sounds good. I'll make a note of that in the request. I don't think it will be an issue. If you ever need help with your wiki, feel free to use IRC or Discord as we have lots of active community volunteers willing to help, or to answer questions you may have. Dmehus (talk) 21:51, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on (almost) 1000 edits on Meta

I think you are a really good user and you solve a bunch of problems. Also I have 100 edits now --InspecterAbdel (talk) 22:00, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@InspecterAbdel:, thank you, and thank you for your past support. Incidentally, my reply to you on Stewards' noticeboard was my 1,000th edit on Meta. ;-) Dmehus (talk) 22:21, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I accidentally messup the Real Life Villains wiki

Sorry about th[at] I should have let the system admin handle it instead Andrewbdfe (talk) 20:31, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrewbdfe: No worries. I've been on top of this, and have been trying to track you down. I'd rather keep the discussions in one place, but since you're here, can you kindly confirm that a system administrator is empowered to revert your Special:ManageWiki/namespaces settings change and mass delete the pages prefixed by Thread:, @comment, and any other prefixes handled by the Message Wall extension? Dmehus (talk) 20:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Yes I can kindly confirm that a system administrator to revert my Special:ManageWiki/namespaces and how to? Andrewbdfe (talk) 20:39, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrewbdfe: Thank you. And the mass deletions as described? Dmehus (talk) 20:40, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Updated wiki request 13461

Wasn't sure how long it should really be, but I've updated Wiki request 13461 with more details, was told on IRC I should let you know. --Himmalerin (talk) 21:44, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Himmalerin: I created the wiki as you were leaving this message. – AmandaCath (talk) 21:46, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Amanda Catherine: Yeah, I was leaning to approve, but I know that you have declined a lot of purely "test wiki"-focused wiki requests, so wanted to follow up with the requestor to gently guide them to having a secondary aim for the wiki. Nonetheless, I'll approve similar wikis on this basis, especially when they're a private wiki. Thanks for the follow up. Dmehus (talk) 21:50, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

@Dmehus: Could you explain the issue with innocent users getting banned?--㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 23:20, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: I am not Miraheze Staff (a system administrator), so I know the same as any other user, which is essentially nothing. However, I think it's important here to clarify a few things. Firstly, system administrators strictly enforce the Terms of Use, together with the Privacy Policy. They do not enforce the official global community policies the community has authorized by way of successive RfCs and community noticeboard discussions (stewards and Global Sysops handle those). The Code of Conduct shouldn't be confused with the Terms of Use, as the Code of Conduct represents a community-authorized set of standards of conduct to which all users are to adhere, and which help to guide the stewards and other global functionaries in ensuring users adhere to those standards. I assume you are referring to the two users who were recently globally renamed, due to GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation). The GDPR and Miraheze's non-disclosure agreements to which system administrators are bound govern what they can, and cannot, say. So, I will just say what I said on Stewards' noticeboard, not all Terms of Use enforcement actions imply there was anything wrong with a user's contributions. I realize this is a bit vague, but I am hesitant to say anything more as we need to be careful not to say too much. So, I will just say this, I am very confident Miraheze absolutely took the correct action that was in everyone's best interests that it took in light of the information they had available at the time. In short, they, absolutely and completely, exercised their fiduciary duty here. Dmehus (talk) 23:36, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apology

I am sorry if I kept reverting edits on the Favonian & Tegel Page, I am sorry.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 02:00, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: No worries, and no need to apologies. Your reverting was done in good-faith...it's just that there becomes a point where one feels like they're banging their head against a brick wall trying to undo the bad edits of a strongly suspected LTA/sockpuppet. Dmehus (talk) 02:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Yeah I had enough with this trash-talking user. He should be not even be banned, but locked because of this nonsense.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 02:12, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: If an administrator here on Meta signs on first, the user will be indefinitely locally blocked pending global lock action by a Global Sysop or steward. Dmehus (talk) 02:16, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

@Dmehus:, could you help me with the AoC2 wiki? Link: https://aoc2.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page --Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 22:44, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: Firstly, I noticed you used an external link for your wiki, so I thought I'd take this opportunity to tell you about Miraheze magic hook links, which are formatted as [[mh:subdomain:fullPageName|optional piped link]]. So, in your case, you would link to aoc2, as one example.
Secondly, what is the question, and, specifically, briefly tell me what you are wondering about? Dmehus (talk) 22:51, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: GRAMMAR, template imports, and a home page design.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 22:53, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: I can maybe help with importing some core templates, if you give me a list of templates you would like imported, but can't commit to actual content or Main Page design assistance due to other committed Miraheze work. You could maybe post a community noticeboard discussion looking for help with designing your Main Page and doing copy editing on your wiki? Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 22:57, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: The Template I want you to import are Blocked templates, Warning templates, Infoboxes for countries, cities, game mechanics, and type of governments, Ping templates, The featured template, the colored font template, CSS, Promotion Templates (You could just reskin the block template for this one), and gadgets. These are all the stuff I want you to import and maybe I will do more ideas in the future.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 23:03, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: Okay, I will try and import the block, warning, and ping templates in the next week or so. If you're wanting Twinkle set up, that's a fairly involved effort as it requires a lot of template importing and customizing, basically de-Wikipedia-ifying it. Personally, I don't really like the Twinkle templates; while more efficient, maybe, I find them to be a bit too cold and proforma-like, if that makes sense. You'll rarely see me use a Twinkle template for that reason. When I do use them, it's usually as a "please see" or talkback template (or WikiLove, through the WikiLove extension). Infoboxes have a fair degree of complexity to them; I'll try, but can't make any promises. Dmehus (talk) 23:12, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Ok I will make you a temporary Admin on there.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 23:14, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: Okay, set it as temporary for 30 days, which can be extended as required. I visited your wiki, so as to attach my account locally and you can grant rights. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: I made it permanent.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 23:18, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, thanks. It will come in useful when you ask me for something. Dmehus (talk) 23:23, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: I would want to see infoboxes be imported.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 23:43, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you make me an admin on Phonicfriends Wiki?

Hello, I am interested in becoming an admin on Phonicfriends Wiki: https://learningfriends.miraheze.org since it is closed. I want to adopt it because it is closed and the only admin is inactive. So please make me an admin on the wiki. Signed Cowsgumball31. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowsgumball31 (talkcontribs) 20:50, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowsgumball31: Thank you for your message. First, I have added an {{unsigned}} signature for you, as talk page conventions require that users sign their posts with four tildes (~~~~), as opposed to manually typing their username. The reason for this is because it includes a link to your user page and/or user talk page and a critical timestamp, knowing when the message was delivered.
Second, I'm neither a bureaucrat on that wiki nor a steward capable of processing adoption requests for closed wikis. Nevertheless, looking at Special:Log/managewiki, I see that @Madelinefan138: manually closed that wiki. By steward convention or custom, manually closed wikis are not eligible for election. Your best bet, as a first step, is probably to try contacting a bureaucrat on that wiki to see if they'll appoint you as a bureaucrat. Failing that, you can come back here after you a few days, and I will advise on one possible other next step. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 21:02, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you for making the wiki better!

Kitten (06) by Ron.jpg

Thank you for helping out the meta-wiki, since you have a lot of good edits. You are also active, which combining with good edits make you a big powerhouse.

CircleyDoesExtracter(Circley Talk | Global |Email the Cloud) 21:32, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
[reply]

@CircleyDoesExtracter: Thanks for the kind words and for noticing. Dmehus (talk) 21:34, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why is my wiki taking so long to be approved?

My wiki Lousy Reception Wikis Wiki is taking too long to make. Can you please make it asap and tell me why it's taking so long? Signed Cowsgumball31. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowsgumball31 (talkcontribs) 15:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cowsgumball31:, please be patient. Wiki requests are reviewed by human volunteers, and are not created instantly, to ensure they do not violate Content Policy, among other things. Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Dmehus (talk) 15:38, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Need deletion of my user account

How do I do so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Promisekun (talkcontribs) 04:56, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki accounts are not deletable I don't think however you can just logout and not use the account again that is something I would recommend doing or scramble your password and login information as well --Cocopuff2018 05:34, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
@Promisekun: Thank you for question, and thank you to @Cocopuff2018: for answering the question while I was sleeping. Generally speaking, it's not usually possible to delete accounts, primarily because of copyright reasons as each user has, individually and collectively, contributed to the various pages on wikis which they had edited, so the attribution history is often needed for that purpose. That being said, while accounts may not be able to be deleted, if you are concerned with the personal information displayed privately within your account, you may be able to request a removal or "scrubbing" of this information consistent with privacy policy. This is a process that is undertaken by system administrators, and you would need to contact them privately, via e-mail, to tech(at)miraheze.org. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 11:28, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks, I never contributed to this wiki project Promisekun (talk) 14:09, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Promisekun: Your contributions come in the form of edits (as well as log actions, to a somewhat lesser degree) to Miraheze wikis, such as your reply above. So, you technically have contributions. Nevertheless, you will need to decide which of the above options you wish to take. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:22, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Many thanks Promisekun (talk) 01:58, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Promisekun: While your account cannot be deleted, if you wish to vanish, it may be possible for system administrators to scrub your account of any personally identifying information and rename it in a manner consistent with the way Wikimedia Foundation handles such things; however, for this, you would need to e-mail tech(at)miraheze.org from your registered e-mail address associated to your user account. As I say, I am not familiar with the particulars, but they would be able to provide you with information the process and other requirements. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 02:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Promisekun: The wikimedia foundation deals with this by deleting all your personal information, your email etc, and also removes your 2FA creds, removes all your rights and renames your account to something like this: DeletedAccount328uwthshgksfghsfdknhsdkjghdfkslghlksdjhfgsldhgfkdjshgsd and locks it. ThesenatorO5-2 (talk) 09:41, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

@Dmehus: Would you help me with grammar on my Aoc2 Wiki?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you import the Template:PL?

I made a modification to the Meta:Sandbox template, but it seems that I don't have the template I need.Could you import the Template:PL?--松•Matsu (talk) 22:56, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes check.svg Done. Sure. Dmehus (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@:, I checked Template:PL on English Wikipedia, and it's just a template redirect for Template:Plainlist, which we already have. I thought about creating a redirect for Template:PL, but I'm not sure how often it would be used or whether it would be needed. Let me know if that works for you, or if we need an updated version of the template. Dmehus (talk) 23:03, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.:)I will check it.--松•Matsu (talk) 23:05, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: No problem. I think it should work, but may just need a minor adjustment to your template transclusion syntax, I think. I'm hoping, anyway. Dmehus (talk) 23:07, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's a little different from the output I was thinking about, so I made a template on my subpage and modified it.See this difference.Do you would like to replace the existing template?--松•Matsu (talk) 23:24, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: Without looking more closely at it, it's difficult for me to see the differences between the two templates. I do see Template:Plainlist is used by several collapsible templates, so rather than potentially breaking something, do you want me to move your template to Template:Plainlist 2 without leaving a redirect, and then we can use your version in the sandbox heading template? Dmehus (talk) 23:30, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I remembered, please see the templatewiki:Template:Plain link.--松•Matsu (talk) 23:36, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@: Okay I'll import that one, no problem. Dmehus (talk) 23:40, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, please wait a moment. Somehow it seems to have been removed from the template wiki.--松•Matsu (talk) 23:43, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: No, I think it's there? In your original request, you were missing an e on template. So I corrected that here. It seems to be Yes check.svg Done and imported at Template:Plain link. Dmehus (talk) 23:46, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see,apparently I was making a typo.Thank you for noticing.Thank you for importing:)--松•Matsu (talk) 23:53, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: No worries. Glad it all worked out. Let me know if you need any more templates imported or anything. Dmehus (talk) 23:58, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thank you for deleting the user subpage.I saw the need to improve the sandbox as I saw you organizing the user pages used for testing.We may need to add a sandbox to meta sidebar, but it probably requires discussion.--松•Matsu (talk) 00:11, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A pie for you!

A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg Congratulations on becoming the Meta administrator!-- 松•Matsu (talk) 00:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Missing Mirahezians‎‎

Surely some people want to document everything, but must we document rage-quits? Spıke (talk) 00:55, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Spike: Thank you for your message. I thought it was appropriate to list users who have announced their permanent retirement from Miraheze, and that criterion, adapted from Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians, seemed reasonable to keep. I don't really see a reason why we would not list one user who permanently retired versus listing another user who retired permanently, simply because of their stated reason. Hope that clarifies. Dmehus (talk) 00:58, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clarifies but doesn't justify. For someone who just vanishes, there's nothing real to mention, while someone who "resigns" after submitting a bill of particulars now gets a bit of extra publicity for it. Spıke (talk) 01:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Spike: I guess, but I still think we should track it, though. I am fine with modifying the verbiage associated with the listing, but we should link to the relevant diffs. It's also useful, as a historical record, in the event the user does return, in terms of aggregating the relevant diffs for the community's assessment in any future rights' request, no? Dmehus (talk) 01:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I like your attempts, but I don't think it's good for security to list users who have permissions such as stewards as inactive.--松•Matsu (talk) 12:04, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: Thanks also for your comments. I would agree with that, too, ordinarily, but I would note that this page was suggested by others and also, regarding stewards, though it may not be codified in official policy, there is an unwritten convention or practice that two-factor authentication must be enabled on one's account upon obtaining steward. So, I think any potential security concerns are mitigated by that fact. (System administrators are also required to use two-factor authentication, too, not just on-wiki, but on Phabricator as well, as far as I am aware.) Dmehus (talk) 12:11, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thank you for explaining.:)--松•Matsu (talk) 12:24, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: No problem. Speaking of which, you're active in doing translations of pages and updates to translated pages. You'd be an ideal candidate for translation administrator, I think. It wouldn't allow you to delete translated subpages or mark pages for translation that are sysop-protected, but it would allow you to mark pages that have been updated, so you wouldn't need to ask a Meta administrator to do that for you. Let me know if you'd be interested, and we can discuss that more on your user talk page. No formal permissions request is required, since it's a discretionary appointment that any Meta administrator can grant. Dmehus (talk) 12:45, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thank you for your invitation.:)Let me think about it.I'm still studying extension translation.Currently, translation of the page specified by the meta administrator has not been completed.Actually, it is more accurate to translate by multiple people than I translate alone, but it can not be helped because there are few active Japanese users participating in translation.Users who use languages ​​other than English can show their contribution to the community by translation, but users who mainly use English do not need to translate,so there is not much way to show contribution.--松•Matsu (talk) 14:33, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

About aoc2

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: @Dmehus: Do you want to visit my wiki and give your opinion on it? https://aoc2.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page --Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 18:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with your wiki rejecting

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: @Dmehus: You see, my wiki request was rejected for being another of my requests and for concerns over this wiki, you see this is a different wiki that I look forward to and I will not be having assistance for this wiki. I already closed my great toys and company’s wiki in favor of this wiki. I will be doing this be myself and will need no assistance (with the sole exception of template imports). But this is a wiki that I want to see be realized because there really is no dedicated wiki to Nuuk Greenland which is why I requested it, but rejecting it is not a really great idea because it is more unique than my other wikis, I hope you have read this message and I would say thank you. Cheers. --Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: Okay, that is good to hear that you've closed one of your wikis. Yeah, I'm just concerned a bit that you might be taking on too much. Feel free to amend your wiki request stating that, and I'll approve it (or someone else can). Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 19:43, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: I did amend it.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 19:45, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My Wiki Request

@Dmehus: Would you please approve it?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 21:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes check.svg Done. Dmehus (talk) 21:23, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

@Dmehus: Could you import templates to make my Nuuk wiki functional? https://nuukgreenland.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page --Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 21:27, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: Unfortunately, I have way too many things on my to-do list, mainly related to improving the Meta experience for all Mirahezians, so will have to politely decline. You can use Special:Export from English Wikipedia, or similar wikis, listing the full page names including namespace in the box, and checking the boxes to include "all revisions" and "templates." On your wiki, you would use Special:Import. Before importing, though, check the file size of the XML dumps generated from English Wikipedia. If larger than 250 MB, you will need to file a Phabricator task. You may also request assistance at the community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 21:37, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But of course, I use a iPad, not a PC so importing is near impossible for me.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 21:39, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: Okay, that's fair, I suppose. I will {{ping}} @Universal Omega: here (wait for him to reply here; don't reach out to him on user his talk page) to see if he might be able to assist you in my stead, since I'm currently more than occupied with multiple tasks right now. As an added benefit, he will able to handle the Phabricator task, should the import size exceed 250 MB. Dmehus (talk) 22:35, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I got the import to work, I just used the desktop view.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 23:49, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: Ah, great news! Yes, I have to do that frequently when on mobile. That is, I have to "request desktop version" of websites. Glad you got it to work, and don't need @Universal Omega:'s assistance. Dmehus (talk) 00:00, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you help me explain?

I can't explain it well, could you help?See User talk:Lois.thanks.--松•Matsu (talk) 14:50, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Postscript: I'm about to sleep, so I'm sorry if the reply is delayed.--松•Matsu (talk) 14:55, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: Okay, sure, let me go take a look. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 14:59, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.:)--松•Matsu (talk) 12:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

@Dmehus: How do I invite Mirahezeians?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 15:15, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: I'm not sure I fully understand what you're asking. To one of your wikis, as users, or to help with your wiki? Dmehus (talk) 15:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Both.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 15:20, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: Well, the first requires optimizing the metadata and keywords on your wiki to effect more prominent placement in search engines like Google (see search engine optimization), and takes time. It's a large topic, so you will want to do a bit of research on the subject. The second, as I said above, would involve you posting one topic on community noticeboard for your given wiki(s) (if multiple wikis, you should ideally list the wikis in that one topic, unless requesting assistance for another wiki after a considerable period of time later). Be sure to link to your wiki (or wikis, if plural) in the format [[mh:subdomain|name of your wiki]], and the assistance you're seeking. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:26, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I got a post on the community noticeboard.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 15:31, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Acknowledged. Dmehus (talk) 15:32, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Give me some advice about translation

About the word Amount on this page.Thinking simply as the amount of increase or decrease of the account, it is a little strange because I use currencies with different values.Considering the transaction amount, it seems a little strange that the amount is negative at the time of payment. It feels like the payee has received the debt.I'm not familiar with accounting, so I'm worried about translation.It may be easier to understand if it is divided into payment amount and amount received.Looking at your self-introduction page, I thought that you might be familiar with accounting so I consulted.thanks.--松•Matsu (talk) 03:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In short,I'm thinking about how to translate Amount.I'm wondering if I should just write the amount of money.--松•Matsu (talk) 15:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Now, amount is translated as "the amount sent to miraheze"--松•Matsu (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: Sorry for the delay in replying. Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable modification and application of the translation. You could also say "the amount remitted to Miraheze," "the dollar value donated to Miraheze," or "the dollar value value remitted to Miraheze." Lots of possibilities here, but whatever translates better to the Japanese, I am totally comfortable with whatever you decide and trust your discretion. Now, about that translation administrator? I think those tools would be helpful for you for either (a) marking updated English pages for translation by translator volunteers and translation administrators or (b) preparing new pages for translation (other than the noticeboards and talk pages, of course). Have you given it some more thought? Dmehus (talk) 16:10, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply and invitation.I'm glad to be evaluated.But I still lack training and need training.I haven't learned about MediaWiki yet.Miraheze is my first MediaWiki experience.Now I would like to learn slowly.--松•Matsu (talk) 14:42, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: Thank you for your cautiousness and prudence. I still do not know everything about the Translate extension and still learn things almost every day. The fact that you show cautiousness and ask questions is, really, the most important thing, so I would have no concerns with you having the translation administrator tools. Basically, the three most important things with those tools are as follows:
  1. Don't mark or prepare pages for translation too quickly. You can check Special:Log/pagetranslation and Special:Contributions/FuzzyBot to see where the system maintenance script/"bot" has completed its work before moving on to the next page
  2. Special:PageTranslation is used to mark updated pages for translation, so FuzzyBot can update the translation pages. Ignore the "broken pages" and "discouraged pages" on that special page—that is, you don't need to do anything with them. Updated pages requiring marking are noted in bold faced text
  3. Special:PagePreparation is used to prepare a new page for translation for the first time. Only "rule" here is don't prepare the noticeboards or talk pages, since they change so frequently, and translation is impractical
Hope that helps, and encourages you to consider accepting the role, as you'd be a definite asset given your experience with Japanese translations. :) Dmehus (talk) 14:57, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How do I appeal

ThesenatorO5-2 (talk) 08:38, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ThesenatorO5-2: By appeal, I assume you mean appeal your topic ban. It would be inappropriate to appeal your topic ban only 2 days after it was implemented. Rather than trying to appeal so quickly, focus on making positive contributions to Meta, and an appeal may be considered at a later time, but certainly not this quickly. Reception123 (talk) (C) 10:02, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ThesenatorO5-2: Echoing @Reception123:'s comments, yes, I do think this is far too soon to appeal, given that you already breached the spirit of your topic ban, broadly speaking, several days after your hard sitewide block was lifted. I tend to give users the benefit of the doubt, and I believe you're acting in good-faith and mean well, in all honesty, but we really need a period of time to establish your latest Meta track record. What are you discussing on the noticeboards instead of the problematic requests, for which I suspect there's little if any community appetite (especially local CheckUser, so long as accounts are automatically attached and logged in on visiting a wiki)? How are you helping in other ways on Meta? It's hard to put a timeframe on when to appeal, as it really depends on you and your activity. In theory, it could be as little as two weeks, but on average, I would suspect it would likely not be reasonable to appeal before 60-90 days (barring no further breaches). Dmehus (talk) 15:00, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ThesenatorO5-2: An example of your constructive contribution(s) to Meta was your original, though less thorough and detailed, report of those problematic Chinese language wikis that violated the Code of Conduct and other global policies. That is to your great credit, and you should be commended for that report. Dmehus (talk) 15:02, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus and Reception123: I can help on Phab, though. BTW, I am still appealing my block on the Wikimedia Phabricator just for problematic comments ThesenatorO5-2 (talk) 09:21, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I have a possible candidacy for sysadmin or stewardship perhaps when I become an admin in ENWP and WMF Phabricator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThesenatorO5-2 (talkcontribs) 09:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The name used for the meta admin account name seems to be sysop

Please see this diff.thanks.--松•Matsu (talk) 14:26, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@: Thanks for the note, but I'm finding it a little bit cryptic. Can you clarify and elaborate further on your request? Many thanks. Dmehus (talk) 14:29, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: Do you mean the user group name sysop? If so, yes, that's the role name in the MediaWiki configuration, but commonly, on most wikis, the display name for "sysop" is "administrator," as on Meta (and TestWiki). Dmehus (talk) 14:31, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply.I wondered because the group name in meta was Administrator.Is it possible to change the name?--松•Matsu (talk) 14:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@: Do you mean change the name of the Meta page from Meta:Administrators to, say, Meta:Sysops, or change the role name, locally or globally, from sysop to administrator? Either is possible, yes, but the latter is likely more complicated as we'd have to either (a) request it be changed upstream on Wikimedia Phabricator or (b) manually cherry-pick the code back in with every update to MediaWiki software update. It does mildly annoy me, too, since "administrators" appear out of alphabetical order on Special:ListGroupRights, but I'm not too fussed about it. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:50, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for answering.The application seems to be difficult, so I will leave it as it is.--松•Matsu (talk) 15:29, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question

@Dmehus: How do I do a request for comment?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 18:43, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: I would strongly caution against doing an RfC (Request for Comment) until have more experience (on Meta) and knowledge of our global and local policies, practices, customs, and conventions. Can you instead tell me what your RfC idea would be about, and I'll tell if it's (a) in-scope and (b) feasible? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:47, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Mine is to limit the account of wiki a user can be admin on (10 wikis at a time).--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 18:49, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: (edit conflict) (in reply to original revision; you should follow WP:REDACT when editing talk page posts) Yes, you are an established user on Meta, and Miraheze, in the sense that you (a) have wikis of your own and (b) more than 200 edits on Meta. However, and I mean this with the utmost respect, as per your user talk page, you recently have been have informed by one or more administrators with respect to Meta's policies, customs, guidelines, and practices. So, that suggests you don't quite yet have a full and necessary grasp of our policies in creating RfCs. I will {{ping}} @Reception123: here further, as he may be able to further elaborate on this point. Well-meaning, but inexperienced (on Meta), users who create RfCs have been warned and even sanctioned in the past. Thus, I strongly recommend you not create an RfC as it will very likely not even be feasible. So, I ask again, what are you wanting to have an RfC on? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:55, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Ok.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 18:58, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: When you say "to limit the account of a wiki a user can be admin on (10 wikis at a time), what would be your reason for that and the purpose for this proposal? Dmehus (talk) 19:02, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Dmehus: 1. Because of The Admin Abuse I have seen, and 2. To stop Admin Abuse.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 19:04, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: First, it's not clear how this proposal would stop "local administrator abuse." Second, it's not clear what sort of "abuse" you'd be trying to stop, and how this does not contravene the Miraheze credo of not globally interfering in local wiki business and administration (other than for things like Code of Conduct and Content Policy violations)? This seems like to me you are still upset about those others, namely @Hookuai: and @DuchessTheSponge:, who blocked you on their wikis. As I said to you before, I'm willing to help mediate this dispute between yourself, Hookuai, and DuchessTheSponge, if the three of you wished, so as to see the three of you unblock either "side," and then the three of you stay off the other side's wikis. If the three of you requested it, you could agree to a voluntarily global two-way interaction between between you and Hookuai & DuchessTheSponge. Beyond that, as I stated, other than Hookuai's and DuchessTheSponge's, at times, uncivil block summaries, I'm not seeing anything that necessitates steward or Global Sysop intervention. Dmehus (talk) 19:15, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Fine, I changed my mind to forbid reception wikis.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 19:19, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: Can you clarify? Do you mean you want to do an RfC to forbid Reception wikis? If so, that is unlikely to pass, and I would just note that you run some Reception wikis. Dmehus (talk) 19:23, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Kinda, it would be that reception wiki must be approved within one week and if that week ass causing trouble within one month it will be shut down.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 19:38, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: That doesn't sound like a clear policy-based rationale or purpose, to be honest. It's also unnecessary. We have Content Policy and Code of Conduct, which can be used to shut down wikis. I would encourage you to read those policies, thoroughly, and then go through the problematic Reception wikis, compiling a list to the permalink revisions where Content Policy or Code of Conduct violations exist. When you have a comprehensive list, create one thread on stewards' noticeboard, stating under what provisions and under which policy (or policies) you are filing this report, which wikis this report is about, and including all the links to the problematic revisions. That would get attention of global functionaries versus simply saying users are, essentially, "being bullies." Note, too, that you must do the investigating. Global staff will not, generally speaking, do it for you. As well, this should keep you busy, and away from Meta, where you have principally been involved in user talk namespace, for at least a week. Dmehus (talk) 19:47, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

About Requesting

I just sent a request to Circley for help finding potentially corrupt wiki’s. Is it fine for someone to help me finding wikis?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Μπέλα2006: That is fine, though I'm not sure what you mean by "potentially corrupt wiki's." Note that we only look at wikis which are violating Content Policy, the Code of Conduct, and other global policies. The term corrupt wiki doesn't exist within our global policies. Also, I'm not convinced some sort of sanction on Meta for you is off the table, as I've come across some rather concerning contributions you made, and will be consulting with @Reception123: when he is awake in the morning. It won't likely involve a hard block or anything, but will be more around an editing restriction, aimed at guiding positive behaviour and contributions (on Meta) from you. I will be reaching out to you in due course on this. Dmehus (talk) 00:19, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Please don’t put a restriction, it would make me unhappy, is it for global or is it for this wiki only? And for Corrupt wikis, another them for wiki that violate the Content policy.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 00:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: Your unhappiness or happiness has little to do with it—it has to do with your ability, or rather, your inability, to comply, repeatedly, with instructions. It won't likely involve any sort of block, but it likely will limit some or all of (a) the number of posts you may make in user talk namespace in a given 24 hour period, (b) use Twinkle, and (c) undo others' edits, for an undetermined, or indefinite, period of time. I have no capacity to impose global restrictions, nor would this be appropriate in this case anyway. So, any editing restriction would be limited to Meta. Dmehus (talk) 00:43, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: But Meeting A Steward is about my actions is creepy (And yes, I am editing logged out because I forgot).--Μπέλα2006 (talk) 00:46, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update on Hookuai issue

@Dmehus: Despite a request for unblock, Hookuai still refuses to unblock me other little things that I don’t care about anymore, I can overlook past my mistakes and start editing like my past self (importing pages, fix typos, and fix sentences, etc.) But Duchness blocking me for the same reason everywhere just makes me sad. Duchess Treats me like a vandal only account when I’m far from that. He was giving me ban without a appeal, and Hookuai still treats me like crap. I hope Duchess and Hookuai can unblock me.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 12:38, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help me

@Dmehus: I need to help improving my behavior, how do I do that?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 19:46, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete UWAUW

Can you please delete UWAUW aka Unfavorable Wikis and Users Wiki? It spreads rumors about people. Even worse, the founder lies about not spreading rumors when he does. Please delete the wiki and global ScratchCoder. Signed ALL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALL (talkcontribs) 12:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree because of Duchness.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 12:04, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Μπέλα2006: First, I assume by "Duchness" you are referring to @DuchessTheSponge:. Second, I am mildly surprised and more than mildly disappointed you have continued your negative crusade against this user, even after DuchessTheSponge has shown a willingness to reconsider your block(s) on the wiki(s) which they manage in this discussion on @Hookuai:'s user talk page. As I said on stewards' noticeboard, I will have more to say to you on a related note in a different venue in a short timeframe from now. Dmehus (talk) 14:02, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Oh, sorry.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 14:50, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ALL: First, I think you may have mistaken my user talk page for stewards' noticeboard. Second, I'm not a steward, so I am not the correct person to be addressing. Third, your report for stewards would be unsufficient for stewards to investigate this wiki or that user because it (a) lacks specificity on the problem and (b) does not contain any evidence of any global policy, such as the Code of Conduct and Content Policy, violations. Additionally, you should also include a magic hook interwiki wikilink to the wiki and problematic pages, in the format [[mh:subdomain:pageName|optional displayed, piped link]]. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:58, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ALL: actually your wiki "atrocious receptions" made multiple false claims. you just want it deleted because you are on it. ScratchCoder (talk) 14:59, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]