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    == Qualitipedia topic ban and user conduct ==
    == Qualitipedia topic ban and user conduct ==
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    :The following discussion is closed. '''Please do not modify it'''. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
    ::I start by pointing out that this discussion should have taken place on [[Meta:Administrators' noticeboard]] as it concerns measures to be taken locally on Meta by local sysops/bureaucrats and not global actions which is what CN is for. A further observation is that, as Raidarr suggested in the comments, it would have been preferable for local sysops to have been contacted about Blubabluba9990's behavior so they could have warned them from continuing it and possibly imposed a topic ban without the need for a community discussion. This should be kept in mind before opening future topic ban proposals like this without any prior warning as it is unusual for the community to dictate specific measures like this which are usually left to administrator discretion. That being said, there is overwhelming and unanimous support (except for Blubabluba9990) for Proposals 1 and 2 and it seems necessary to implement them as soon as possible in order to prevent the behavior that is clearly not desired by the community from continuing. Therefore Proposals 1 and 2 are successful and the topic and interaction bans begin as of now. Proposal 1.1 is not succesful. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] [[User talk:Reception123|(talk)]] ([[Special:Contributions/Reception123|<span style="color:#47C326; font-weight: bold;">C</span>]]) 16:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
    It has become clear since the announcement of the closure of Qualitipedia on Miraheze that many Qualitipedia community members continue to maintain a strong attachment to the projects. Unfortunately, through several warnings, Blubabluba9990 has continued to insist that the closure be overturned and/or Qualitipedia users be allowed to create forks or clones of existing Qualitipedia projects. This extreme attachment, while not inherently disruptive, have become not only annoying, but disruptive from this user. Blubabluba9990 has also consistently refused to take a wikibreak.
    It has become clear since the announcement of the closure of Qualitipedia on Miraheze that many Qualitipedia community members continue to maintain a strong attachment to the projects. Unfortunately, through several warnings, Blubabluba9990 has continued to insist that the closure be overturned and/or Qualitipedia users be allowed to create forks or clones of existing Qualitipedia projects. This extreme attachment, while not inherently disruptive, have become not only annoying, but disruptive from this user. Blubabluba9990 has also consistently refused to take a wikibreak.
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    == issues connecting to some my wikis ==
    == issues connecting to some my wikis ==

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    I'd like my account deleted (I'll explain why)

    Hello. I was a former editor on the Miraheze "reception wikis", which consist of which are the best and worst. The negative ones are in particular controversial (which I won't explain), so I'd like my account to at least be deleted. I cannot change my username, I'd rather have it disappear until I can make a new one. I'm telling this mainly due to bad memories and regretting my contributions there, thank you! WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    I do know the negative one for TV shows in particular had an article named "celebt*rds" and implicitly defended Nickelodeon's most controversial creator (the guy behind Ren and Stimpy), but I won't provide any further context. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It's impossible to delete accounts with MediaWiki. Stewards can lock and vanish your account, which can be requested on the Steward's noticeboard. Tali64³ (talk) 19:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    In addition to what Tali64³ have said , if you want to vanish your account according to the Data Request Process, please instead file a request at TSPortal, but not the Stewards’ noticeboard. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Tali64³ @Matttest I see. Can I have my username changed, instead? And is it against the rules to move an account out of bad memories + contributions on controversial wikis? WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    You can, check Changing username for more info. However, note that it is impossible to scrub your contributions out from a wiki and your username on edits and pages. Even if you request a vanish via TSPortal, it's impossible to remove edits. Agent Isai Talk to me! 15:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Agent Isai I see. P.S. are Miraheze accounts linked to MediaWiki? Because I also have one on Wikipedia, with the same username. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 07:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I now requested a username change. I also added a reason that I no longer condone reception wikis for having implicitly right-leaning content. Feel free to change my signature all you want, I'm abandoning my old 2019 account after this since I don't want my old username tainted. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 07:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Chinese Uncyclopedia should be open to public

    When and why Chinese Uncyclopedia becomes a private wiki? As an editor of the wiki, I'm not informed about this and I can't ask reasons on the wiki because of lack of permission. As one of active uncyclopedias, I think it's reasonable to re-open to public. 全都是套路 (talk) 04:50, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    • Have you contacted sysop of Chinese uncyclopedia?I think you should do it if you've not done. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 09:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Date-Based Content?

    Me again. Where would I look for help on inserting date-based content on the home page? Like, a 'this day in history' box or a 'it's such-and-such character's birthday!' box. It's hard to phrase this in searches because I just end up getting results for adding different types of date formatting. Do I have to cook up some forbidden magic or do I just not know the right official term to search? (getting a random page of the day is not the function I'm looking for with this question, but if that exists I'd like to know about it too) Chantolove (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Do you mean something like:
    • a page that stores birthdays of every character
    • some code on the main page to show which character has birthday today
    Or rather to show pages that are "tagged" with a certain date? It's surely possible but I'd need to know what exactly you need to help you further ^^ 21:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
    @Chantolove: I use Magic Words and create a template for each day
    Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} → Template:February 3
    As I don't have a template for everyday, I include default message to avoid "this template does not exist"
    {{#ifexist: Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}
    | No events today
    PercyUK (talk) 07:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Ooh, that's wonderful! Tysm!! I'll try my best to get that to work :> Chantolove (talk) 00:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Working fine, I just had to tweak it to "{{Template:{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}}}" in order to get the template contents to show.
    Is the only way you know of to accomplish this by calling a template? It feels like I'm making a lot of pages for them each to have one or two lines of text on them. Is that just how things work round these parts? Chantolove (talk) 23:36, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    @Chantolove: Create a switch template for each month imstead?

    • {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} would select the template
    • {{CURRENTDAY}} would select the day

    Template:Birthdays List/September

    {{#switch: {{{1}}}
    |8  = Kanaya Mitarai
    |21 = Rira Kanai
    |23 = Ochiyo Inai
    |27 = Hatsue Kozutsumi
    |#default = No birthdays today

    On your page

    {{Birthdays List/{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}|{{CURRENTDAY}}}}

    PercyUK (talk) 10:29, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Request for Feedback: making syntax highlighting enabled by default

    While visiting a few new wikis I noticed that syntax highlighting is not enabled by default. It's a really helpful tool that's also standard for most code editing software, which can help avoid simple syntax errors and make editing easier. And because it features a toggle, it can be easily disabled if anyone prefers to not use it at any time.
    Advantages of having syntax highlighting by default:

    • It would make the source editor (and code editors) more accessible to beginner wiki editors, who might not even be aware it exists in the first place.
    • People who migrate from Fandom and are yet to learn about ManageWiki would expect for this feature to be enabled by default. This would make it more intuitive for them.
    • Marking it as default would make it more widespread on new wikis. It would be beneficial for editors who edit multiple wikis, and frequently use the multi-select feature the syntax highlighting enables.

    Because syntax highlighting for wikitext and CSS/JS/Lua are handled by two different extensions (CodeMirror and CodeEditor respectively), I made a proposal for each.

    Note: I was told those extensions may have an impact on performance and to mention @Universal Omega: in this post.

    22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

    Proposal 1: Wikitext syntax highlighting by default

    Make the CodeMirror extension enabled by default when a new wiki is created. Existing wikis would stay unaffected.

    Support (1)

    1. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support as proposer. 22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
    2. Symbol support vote.svg Support Long standing and widely used feature. Beneficial to both beginner and veteran editors alike. CodeMirror is a feature I frequently (read "nearly always") use myself, and also personally frequently forget to enable as part of my new wiki configuration process. dross (tcg) 22:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    3. Symbol support vote.svg Support ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 22:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    4. Symbol support vote.svg Support Executive2 (talk) 10:15, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    5. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support I feel like it even might encourage new users, admins especially, to work more in source editor. Needless to say how handy it's gonna be for helping volunteers. KatozzKita (talk) 10:32, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    6. Symbol support vote.svg Support CodeMirror is very useful.--1108-Kiju/▶talk 07:32, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Abstain (1)

    Oppose (1)

    Comments (1)

    Proposal 2: CSS/JS/Lua syntax highlighting by default

    Make the CodeEditor extension enabled by default when a new wiki is created. Existing wikis would stay unaffected.

    Support (2)

    1. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support as proposer. 22:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
    2. Symbol support vote.svg Support Tab support is a must on any project requiring the editing of code. Seems like a quality of life improvement (technical concerns aside) for this to be enabled by default. dross (tcg) 22:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    3. Symbol full support vote.svg Strongest support Useful. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 06:56, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    4. Symbol support vote.svg SupportExecutive2 (talk) 10:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    5. Symbol support vote.svg Support Per above. -Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 10:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    6. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support Absolutely. KatozzKita (talk) 10:32, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    7. Symbol strong support vote.svg Strong support I am surprised that this extension was not defol... --1108-Kiju/▶talk 07:32, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    8. Symbol support vote.svg Support --LisafBia (talk) 09:25, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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    Comments (2)


    How to change the side menu

     Andrey Eduardovich (talk) 09:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Instructions at Manual:Interface/Sidebar and on your wiki at MediaWiki:Sidebar --Rob Kam (talk) 10:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Does not work. You can see what code I have on this page, and the srt shows me in the side menu Andrey Eduardovich (talk) 18:12, 3 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Issues with ProofreadPage and displaying transcribed books

    I am hoping someone can provide some information regarding this issue, which I only noticed because I wanted to start up my transcribing projects again after a lengthy break.

    I use the ProofreadPage extension and this has worked well in the past. Now there are missing tabs (previous, next and image tabs) and the side by side text and image page is now missing the image from the .djvu file as seen here on this random page Page:The_British_Blockade.djvu/12.

    In addition to this, when all these pages are transcribed, they spliced together to form a complete document using the <pages> tag, such as: <pages index="The British Blockade.djvu" from=5 to=14 /> But, I keep getting an error: Error:No such file as seen on this page The British Blockade

    Can someone shed some light if this has something to do with the latest updates causing this problem. If this no longer works, there has been a lot of transcribing work in the past wasted.

    Thanks for any advice. Borderman (Talk) 10:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki?

    Who wants to have the Food Dye Studios Wiki? If anyone of you are feminine and are into women's fashion. That wiki is the place to be. You can feel free to change the rules to say whatever you want. So, if any of you're wanting that. You can do that on there, but leave most of it the same. Unless, you feel like it needs surious correction. Kew1119 (talk) 02:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    I don't think it's a good idea to offer the reins of what appears to be your personal wiki to anyone who asks Chantolove (talk) 23:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Columns For Beginners? (possible misuse of col-break template)

    I am trying to use the "col-begin", "col-end", and "col-break" functions found here on the template wiki. This is happening. It's displaying a bunch of code junk from the col-break thing. All I'm trying to do is two equally-sized columns, and that part's not even working T_T Should I be using some different template

    I've copied the 'col-begin', 'col-end', and 'col-break' templates into their own pages on my wiki exactly as they're used in the source code on Templates, minus the line about documentation. Chantolove (talk) 00:09, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    @Chantolove: The templates include class= requiring to add the relevant code into MediaWiki:Common.css
    I prefer to create a basic template which I can easily change


    {| width="100%"
    |- valign="top"
    | width="50%" |
    <!-- LEFT COLUMN -->
    {{{left column|}}}
    | width="50%" |
    <!-- RIGHT COLUMN -->
    {{{right column|}}}

    On the page

     | left column  = left column text
     | right column = right column text
    PercyUK (talk) 11:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    tysm!! Chantolove (talk) 03:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    The new version of the photo is not displayed

    On my wiki new version of photo files is not displayed on pages. The old version is shown on thumbnails instead of new, even if old versions deleted. Cache deleting is not working. Thefirstdarkness (talk) 08:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Can you try:
    • Viewing the images in a different resolution like [[File:Example.png|123px]] (with your image name of course)
    • Viewing the pages on another device
    • Purging the pages with images
    If any of this works, that means the images will update by themselves, they just need more time. Also, some browsers have a separate option to clear image cache, so there's a chance you didn't clear it. 14:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

    Ukrainian letter Ґ

    Ukrainian letter «Ґ» is five letter of ukrainian alphabet, but on categories this letter is very last. Please, fix this problem. Thefirstdarkness (talk) 08:59, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    AFAIK, this is an issue with MediaWiki itself, not with Miraheze. Most "special" characters are listed last, so that's expected behavior. I don't have an exact place where you can complain, but here is their site. -- Bukkit[cetacean needed] 00:22, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    How to get ParserFunctions StringFunctions enabled.

    How do I get string function in the ParserFunctions extension enabled? I found a place tha an administrator needs to set $wgPFEnableStringFunctions = true; in LocalSettings.php. Is this where I ask for that? Thanks Lifelonglearner (talk) 00:00, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Hello @Lifelonglearner. You can enable $wgPFEnableStringFunctions in ManageWiki at Special:ManageWiki/settings. Happy editing! dross (tcg) 07:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Adding CSS Page Doesn't Work?

    Trying to add a css page (shamelessly yoinked from wikipedia, admittedly- who knew colored textboxes would be such a quest), but it doesn't work. It just shows up as plain code. I don't have permission to use changecontentmodel on my site, either. Chantolove (talk) 04:01, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Hi @Chantolove. Sorry you're having so much trouble with this. The CSS you're trying to use relies on the TemplateStyles extension. This can be enabled at Special:ManageWiki/extensions. In order to change the content model of the page, you'll first need to assign the editcontentmodel permission to the proper group for your wiki. You can do this with Special:ManageWiki/permissions. Once you have done this, the content model may be changed at Special:ChangeContentModel/Template:Divbox/styles.css. Happy editing! dross (tcg) 07:19, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Chantolove: As Wikipedia has millions of pages, its templates are complex to accommodate all the needs. As your wiki will use it the same way, a basic system can be used:
    1. create Template:Divbox
    2. create Template:Divbox/styles.css (as I use Lua → Module:Divbox/styles and Module:Divbox for the switch)
    My alternative → Test Wiki
    PercyUK (talk) 17:17, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thoughts on combining them with the 2col template to fill the whole space? Or do I need to hunt for a more advanced way to have larger boxes Chantolove (talk) 23:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Chantolove: Template:2Col style (background color) and content (No birthdays today) needs to be separated. The color schemes are stored in {{#invoke:divbox|color|<colorname>}} I have edited Template:2Col which gives it flexibilty and an example on New header testing.
    PercyUK (talk) 06:56, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Contributions footer

    I would like to add a contributions footer to my wiki, like the one on Meta. How would I do this? ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 18:53, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    A Steward will need to handle this request, as $wgMaxCredits requires managewiki-restricted. Which wiki is this request for? dross (tcg) 07:34, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    The Legend of Dark Witch Wiki ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 10:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Actually, $wgMaxCredits doesn't seem to fit what I want to do. I would like to add the thing on the bottom of the contributions page (picture below). ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 11:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer --坑触可 (talk) 12:09, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thank you! ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 12:15, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Costume explore section.


    Hello, I wanted to do a costume explore section on the CountryHumans Wiki, however I don’t know how to do it. Any suggestions? KumihoWolffey (talk) 19:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    The explore section is a part of top navigation of the Cosmos skin. You can customize the top navigation on MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation. See the Cosmos skin documentation for more details. Hope that helps! ^^ 22:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

    Are reception wikis banned from being created?

    I noticed in the farmer logs that some reception wiki requests were declined. Are they banned? Nidoking (talk) 12:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    No but they are subject to higher scrutiny due to the nature of them. Direct recreations of closed reception wikis are not allowed at the moment as they'd constitute a direct fork of a project which is prohibited by the Content Policy. Agent Isai Talk to me! 13:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    But once the wikis disappear, would it be possible to recreate them here. Or move them over to a different wiki service that uses MediaWiki Nidoking (talk) 16:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    You can move these wikis whenever to another host, we aren't stopping you. The database dumps are available on Qualitipedia Central. Agent Isai Talk to me! 16:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It would be possible to recreate them after the six month period passes and the wikis are permanently deleted, but that of course would be subject to them respecting the Content Policy. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Just realized The New Reception Wiki is now banned/closed. So I believe they are actually banned from Miraheze... Nidoking (talk) 12:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It was closed by Reception123 for being mostly a clone of Qualitipedia's content, not necessarily because it was a reception wiki. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 13:23, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Nidoking: Indeed, ZeusDeeGoose is right. Creating reception wikis is not banned. Creating clones/forks of the ones that were closed following a community vote is however not allowed because they are direct forks of those wikis and that is not allowed by the Content Policy. Do note that that was the will of the Qualitipedia network/community. The only way the content from these wikis can be revived on Miraheze is either waiting until the other ones are permanently deleted or creating a new RfC which has already been tried and has been rejected. New reception wikis are allowed but the same exact content being copied isn't. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Qualitipedia topic ban and user conduct

    issues connecting to some my wikis

    This might just be a temporary thing, but wikis such as Pokemon Wiki, Nintendo Wiki, and DQ Wiki are returning "Connection refused (db121)" errors Bawitdaba (talk) 10:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    db121 was temporarily down today, but it is now back up. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Oh i see now, thank you Bawitdaba (talk) 12:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    Image Uploading Failed

    Trying to upload an image, I'm getting a "Could not open lock file for "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/5/5e". Make sure your upload directory is configured correctly and your web server has permission to write to that directory. See$wgUploadDirectory for more information." error when I hadn't before. Looking up this error gives me instructions for a bunch of complicated file setting terminal stuff or whatnot that I've never touched and can't find the settings for. Any advice for, like... even the first page to look on in settings to fix this?

    also, some images are failing to load on the wiki. could be connected? is my internet just having a moment? Chantolove (talk) 04:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    If MediaWiki asks you to do something in the terminal, always ignore it, those instructions are never meant for users. Regarding images, one of our file servers broke and is in read-only mode at the moment meaning images can be read but not written/uploaded (which prompted, as you may have noticed earlier, widespread downtime due to this server hanging all the connections). We're working at this moment to fix that. Sorry for the issues! Agent Isai Talk to me! 04:13, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thank you for letting me know! I'm glad I didn't accidentally break anything haha. Chantolove (talk) 04:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]