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Template documentation

Hi Doug, I have implemented a template documentation in the publictestwiki for demonstration purposes. To these two templates I have added the documention Template:RfP/boilerplate Template:Draft-section so you can see how it looks like. If you think this is useful I (or anyone else) can copy the template and the associated module to other Miraheze wikis. I have translated the text that is displayed in the template pages but not all the comments in the module, a native speaker may improve the translation. Before I spend a lot of time for translating the German comments to English I will make sure that this feature is wanted on Miraheze, if not I will save my time ;-) Lily (Manuela) (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 17:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


What are the requirements for adopting a wiki? Musicismylife (talk) 06:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's no set requirements, other than the wiki (a) must be closed per Dormancy Policy and (b) generally should not be manually-closed (some exceptions apply here). From there, Stewards will assess quantitatively and qualitatively your contribution(s) over the following week(s), typically, to assess your commitment level to the wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:54, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]


How have you been all day today? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:04, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, thanks. Dmehus (talk) 03:51, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me

How do I cancel my username change request? Musicismylife (talk) 01:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Musicismylife Yes check.svg Cancelled per your request. Additionally, I'd note you were just globally renamed a month ago here. Global renames are intended to be done seldomly. As a recommended best practice, it's usually good to leave your username the same for at least 12, and ideally 24, months, absent very compelling reasons to change sooner. For what it's worth, I like your current username. :) Dmehus (talk) 18:07, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You told me to remind you this:

Yes, as you can see from the header section, you told me to remind you to look into Commagate and Cmon, as there is a lot of behavioral evidence from this particular blog post warning other users about Larryding, thus these comments from both of them, and even an additional comment from an additional sock account. Now tell me, doesn't this seem to be over the top suspicious for them to come to that blog post using socks to deny or argue in that same post? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:37, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I don't know that the user is Larryding, but there does seem to be a connection to Commagate and Cmon. Dmehus (talk) 22:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But please do tell me what you find when you're done investigating. :) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, so Bakerbeat5 had no relation at all? That's strange. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not even sure you're correct in thinking that the users I Yes check.svg locked are Larryding. I think they are just run of the mill disruptive sockpuppets. Dmehus (talk) 22:59, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So I'm going to guess that Bakerbeat5 isn't related to Commagate and Cmon, right? If not, then perhaps a different master? But then again, I thank you for locking those 2 along with any additional accounts they had floating around. :) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's correct. It's possible the user is a sockpuppet of a different master, but unless you can provide me with compelling diffs showing a likely target, we won't know that. :) Dmehus (talk) 23:02, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dmehus Meanwhile, I've noticed 2 spambots that came to my iammagnetomasterofmagnetwiki within 2 weeks of each other, like LoganIaf63045 and ESSElinor3002, along with multiple series of spambots that I reported on the Stewards' Noticeboard previously. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:27, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dmehus Found a potential target that could very well be connected to Bakerbeat5: Lastflash. Lastflash has asked DeciduousWater534 in such a strange fashion. Not to mention this user, Bakerbeat5 has replied on Commagate's talk page saying something similar, asking people to put random characters on the wiki. Don't you think that sounds familiar? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki request

Can you help me create x-men of Iron Sword 23 (talk) 22:50, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Warning fake accounts

Can you explain what these accounts are created every day, with random person names on Podpedia (none of the accounts edit, they are just created for nothing) This is not the own site owner creating fake accounts, as the same happens on the AllTheTropes wiki (because it of having many users). And this also happened on a wiki I use. The difference is that they always put "your real name" as seen on their user pages with the SocialProfile extension. YellowFrogger (talk) 02:07, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "fake accounts," but they look like either spam only accounts or spam only accounts in incubation that have yet to edit or otherwise attempt to spam. They'll likely be caught up in regular Steward-conducted spambot sweeps, so not to worry. That being said, perhaps that wiki could be suggested to disable their new user welcome extension that greets new users including spam only accounts. Dmehus (talk) 02:12, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You can safely ignore those, they're just spambots, they're everywhere. Just check that wikis Abuse Log, you'll see a ton of those bots have tried to create spam pages on the wikis and have failed because the Abuse Filter caught them. Until Miraheze can implement ReCaptcha v3, there's not much one can do. Agent Isai Talk to me! 02:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]


How do I add comments to a wiki? Musicismylife (talk) 21:08, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure you can, honestly. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 21:37, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean adding the plugin as the local administrator, there are several options in your ManageWiki settings. A wiki you're not admin on depends on the local situation, using the local plugin or the talk page. It's unclear exactly what you mean and I imagine Dmehus would think similarly, so I wonder which sense you mean, or if there's a wiki where they aren't working properly for you. --Raidarr (talk) 21:44, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unfairly blocked from Qualitipedia again

I have been unfairly blocked from Qualitipedia again. I posted a message on Steward's noticeboard but since it has been ignored, basically I was banned for making a suggestion to add proposals on Qualitipedia, since I know that you said you wanted consensus on Qualitipedia rather than having all decisions made by a small group of bureaucrats. However, they rejected it and I ended up falsely blocked for "causing drama" when that is not true. And to add insult to injury, MarioMario456 and DuchessTheSponge made a personal attack blog against me on Crappy Games Wiki which is filled with false information and old drama which has since been resolved. Also, the comments section of the blog is filled with personal attacks against me, with people calling me names. They even accused me of being an “anti-profanity SJW” when I am not an SJW and I am fine with profanity, within reason of course. Also they said I wasn't there to contribute which is completely false since I did not go to Qualitipedia to cause drama, I did not want to cause drama, I simply wanted to contribute. The main problem is that I was blocked on the show wikis, which are the wikis I usually contributed to. So I think it is safe to say that MarioMario456 and DuchessTheSponge should receive a warning for abuse of power, I should be unblocked on EVERY wiki I am blocked on, and the personal attack blog should be deleted, since this has gone far beyond a reasonable discussion with Mario and Duchess. Furthermore, Mario and Duchess both act like they own the wiki when like you said, nobody owns the wiki. They have blocked me for things that are not even against the policy listed on the main page of every Qualitipedia wiki, and personal attack blogs are against the rules on Crappy Games Wiki. This needs to be resolved soon because I need to clear my name and get back to peacefully editing. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:26, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dmehus: Please help me, you are my only hope. I am being defamed, blocked, harassed, and attacked for no reason. Mario and Duchess are continuing to paint me as this force of evil. You are the only person who can help me clear my name. I need to be back on the reception wikis but I unfortunately cannot contribute to a place where everyone hates me and two of the admins are out to get me. And I can't even explain my innocence since Duchess and Mario are everywhere and I am just blocked anyway. The blog post I mentioned is spreading lies about me. Please listen to me and trust me, you are my only hope. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So, you're back eh?

I've been concerned where you've been for the past few days, but it's good to see you once again. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back Dmehus. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 17:54, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
DuchessTheSponge Of course he's back, but he still has some things to take care of on the Stewards' Noticeboard, like a couple of CheckUser requests to respond to with either a decline or with action taken. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 21:30, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you're back...

Is it time to give MarioMario456 his rights on the Horrible Music and Songs Wiki? I mean, the election has turned out successful and the wiki has became a mess so I felt like it's time for you to promote him. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 19:05, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It turns out even with moderation enabled, it's still turning into a serious mess. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 19:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening

Can you help me with a wiki request? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 22:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding.... ugh.

So I saw you archive my discussion on SN, and I also read your note. The reason this requires Stewards' attention is because I'm banned from QP and I figured you guys are the only ones who can get to QP's moderation team. Because you guys are in charge of Miraheze, and control everything on it (not exactly, but you get the point). I need your guys' help. You may as well be the only ones who can enforce their actions being wrong.

I want the community to understand my criticisms and just listen and understand my viewpoints. I don't want them throwing 'em away or discarding them without even setting up a proper discussion or even explaining why — all my past attempts, it seemed like they didn't want to be criticized, as if criticism towards the wikis hurts their feelings, as if they were upset because I was criticizing them. And I certainly don't want people to live in ignorance, regarding things such as the quality of the Lion King sequels.

I was wrong for creating the Cuties threat in the first place, yes. I was wrong for being immature, yes. But all I wanted for them is to listen to me, and see where I'm coming from. FreezingTNT (talk) 23:44, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's worth reiterating that the Stewards are incredibly reluctant to enter and overhaul local decision making, especially when a local system is already in the process of overhauling itself. As critical as I have been, MarioMario456 in particular has taken steps to address some root problems, which complicates a blanket narrative against their willingness to improve (though, I can't say the same attitude is shared with every admin there, one of which is very offended by criticism and still in power). For my part on Discord mainly, I have attempted to stave off narrow 'he wanted to put Cuties on the good wiki!' with a broader look at what you were trying to do, in spite of it being poorly done. At this point, it's unlikely the Stewards will simply break in and act on your behalf.
As Dmehus mentioned however, the ideal here is probably to splinter to an independent project. That might have been the New Reception Wiki, but as I have noted it is administratively dominated by the QP leadership figures. So, a new new wiki would be necessary, and there *is* a niche for a qualitative wiki. If you want to collaborate with others in realizing that, it can't hurt to try if you really find the QP wikis irredeemable. For my part I think they have a chance. I could dust off a languishing side project and turn it into a meta discussion type wiki with full independence, so it can be used to iron out these details of an ideal format and keep the drama and the scenario off Meta unless it is strictly required. And for the record, I imagine a blog post on the relevant wiki would suffice in giving a full impression of the Lion King sequels. The article can perhaps document strict reception, and reviews can be presented alongside it so people can get an audience reaction, and then see in-depth input for themselves. Frankly I don't think it's the biggest problem in the world for people to understand why a particular set of Sequels is bad. If it is necessary, there are options. So let us consider them, but at this juncture, probably on a more local talk page (yours or mine) until/unless the alternative wiki is put to use to have this conversation natively. --Raidarr (talk) 11:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll summon the QP mods (@MarioMario456:, @DarkMatterMan4500:, @DeciduousWater534: and @DuchessTheSponge:) right here, and see what they think (in regards to all of this).

And in response to some of your pointers...

"For my part on Discord mainly, I have attempted to stave off narrow 'he wanted to put Cuties on the good wiki!' with a broader look at what you were trying to do, in spite of it being poorly done." Where can I find that? I just joined the QP Discord and can't find it myself. And what was the response from the others?

Regarding creating a new wiki from scratch. In my pile of criticisms in the other thread, I pointed out that there'd be backlash from defenders/fanboys of various media such as The Last Jedi and that even if they do explain why that specific article is wrong then the mods won't take those specific bad qualities down because it's apparently what the general public believes regardless of minority opinions. Alongside my other criticisms here. The reason I also chose QP as the place to lay down my criticisms for the Lion King sequels is because it has a huge (well, not that huge) community, especially for a series of wikis that point out the good and the bad, and a decent amount of people do know about the existence of QP, so I figured more people would acknowledge my perspective if I put my criticisms onto something a decent amount of people had a connection to and history with — it's not like I'm gonna magically create a super-popular YouTube channel and create review videos for the films and magically get all 7 billion people on the planet to watch them within a single hour, which would be literally and logically impossible and time-consuming!

"And for the record, I imagine a blog post on the relevant wiki would suffice in giving a full impression of the Lion King sequels. The article can perhaps document strict reception, and reviews can be presented alongside it so people can get an audience reaction, and then see in-depth input for themselves." ??? (As in, I don't really get what you're trying to say regarding specific parts...) When they were originally on the Awful Movies Wiki, before they were deleted and put onto the Greatest Movies Wiki, I believe (I'm not sure if this is accurate) the articles did list the receptions (both movies were loved by audiences), and the Simba's Pride article listed videos from those criticizing the movie. The bad qualities for both articles mostly listed criticisms I've come across on the Internet myself that I generally agreed with; they are indeed opinions (the existence of plot holes, contrivances and other things based on what actually happens in the movie aren't, however; I'm specifically talking about whether it is a good or bad thing), but you can argue the same about any other review in existence, and that's literally the point — while art is subjective, there's things or annoyances (in terms of, for example, the characters' behavior such as being annoying or irritating) or imperfections that would make it more likely people would criticize the work in particular (I mention something similar in the original thread).

FreezingTNT (talk) 19:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So in regards to expanding the topic I'll make a suggestion; if we are to expand this in a full and largely locally relevant discussion, then I would consider the second part of my point in recommending a non-meta outlet to resolve the issues and leaving Steward intervention to a 'strictly necessary' basis - even if it is an independently controlled wiki, be it my alpha project or some other, or even a discord area with far less chance for moderation kneejerks. It may not be on QP proper, but 'it' should be a related place to iron out a proper and actionable case. If it stays on Meta and especially on a Steward's talk page, then the contents should be very topical; be they the concerns with reasonable speech/consensus having a chance to form, or potential content policy violations, or something with noted steward intervention, ie, Void's comment here. This is why I suggest an alternative platform, even if QP itself may not want to humor the conversation (although if it doesn't, that may be something for global staff to take a look at). As for overall attitude (ie, overall receptions), even if there are plot holes and poor elements to a written story, it seems to be QP's desire to put article locations into a 'sum' of three pillars - unprofessional but audienced reviewers, critical reviews and user reviews, with rare exception if say, two out of three overwhelm the one (as in the cause with Cuties) and vaguely in that order unless an exception is necessary. It's not a well documented policy, but that is how they address it; if this is poor, should be changed, etc is something that should be a local discussion, or at least in a suitably close area. For the record, if you want to tell the world what you think of a particular thing and why out of audience, it seems like a dedicated blog (and even going past Miraheze since Reception Wikis are not the best you can do if you're particularly good) would be the avenue to push for. And also for the record, I can guarantee most of the QP mods are unlikely to engage with this because just my own engagement has made this too long already, and in this case I wouldn't blame them for it. In word count, issues about QP already dominate this page alone and the preference is generally to move forward. --Raidarr (talk) 21:29, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

become staff

Hi, how can I become miraheze staff? thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 06:46, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Msnhinet8, see this page. ~ Mazzaz (talk) 07:57, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ok, thanks. Msnhinet8 (talk) 08:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's important to remember that Miraheze Limited doesn't really have any staff. It has volunteer positions which are either appointed by the board, elected or otherwise selected by the community, or appointed by members of the technical team who are ultimately selected by the board-appointed Director of Site Reliability Engineering. Over the years, the term "staff" has been used to describe members of the technical team, but it's woefully inadequate as members of the technical team's responsibilities are limited in scope and tend to be more specialized and technical in nature. With the addition of the board-appointed Trust and Safety team, it's even less accurate. Dmehus (talk) 18:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just a question:

How long do you plan to be inactive for anyways? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:13, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discord ban appeal

@Dmehus Hello I was Contacting you so we can complete my appeal for discord by any chance we can complete it by today or tomorrow, I understand you been busy however would like to finish that appeal and also know what the results were? Cocopuff2018 (talk) 00:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cocopuff2018 Apologies for the delay. I wasn't sure whether Reception123 or Void had finalized it or not, but yeah, per my discussion with you on IRC, Discord platform moderators have agreed to your conditional unban on Discord, the terms of which have been shared with you on IRC. Dmehus (talk) 01:02, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
sweet thanks! Cocopuff2018 (talk) 01:30, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uhhh, hey?

You around to respond to a few CheckUser requests on the Stewards' noticeboard, not to be annoying or anything? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:48, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


I am flustured right now sorry.. I working hard on easypedia. Do you not want me on Miraheze anymore? I hope not... Sperosdurell (talk) 00:01, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keeping sperosdurell!!! 😊 Sperosdurell (talk) 00:10, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Void's been globally blocking open proxies from a disruptive troll for the past 2-3 weeks now, and for some reason they've been finding ways to come back with even more open proxies. Also, in the meantime, there's been some disruption from I hope this site goes defunct (which has been locked anyway, but could still be investigated at your discretion) considering this personal attack (which had to be hidden) and Reception123 thinks it might be a sock if it attacked Gay Socrates, which seems to be unusual to me, considering how the user in question that I was ignoring for a while decided to talk trash about me again, and he also implied that he doesn't want to be here anymore. Not sure if you want to look into that or not, but go right ahead if you want to. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:00, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My adoption request

I made an adoption request here about two weeks ago, but it's being ignored. What should I do? Musicismylife (talk) 22:18, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Musicismylife: Please note that adoption requests are never ignored. Steward's most likely haven't had time to go over them but will soon, please be patient. Thanks! Agent Isai Talk to me! 22:24, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but now it's been over a month. Musicismylife (talk) 21:28, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Musicismylife: I know it may be frustrating to have to wait such a long time but hopefully a Steward has time to process the outstanding requests soon. Agent Isai Talk to me! 21:37, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notification about the character wikis

Here is the link to the reopening agreement: Stewards%27 noticeboard#Can you please reopen 2 wikis.Mr. Jay 641 (talk) 16:47, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


  • Hi, staff:you can change my wiki domain become this: ?thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:46, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Msnhinet8 Unfortunately, subdomains cannot contain periods in them. We could remove your custom domain, reverting you to using, which currently redirects to your domain. Alternatively, you could request that we change your database name from internetpediawiki to zhinternetpediawiki, which would make your subdomain Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:53, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, you can change my wiki domain become zhinternetpediawiki. thanks again.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:55, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    If change become zh-internetpediawiki, also can not?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:57, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't believe we can have dashes. Do you still want to change to zhinternetpediawiki and unset your custom domain? Dmehus (talk) 04:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, you can do it. Msnhinet8 (talk) 04:04, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, I've removed your custom domain for you. Please make sure you renew your domain, should you wish to retain it for future use again. Also, see #T7996 on Phabricator where I've requested a subdomain/database name change for you. Until that's done, use Then use Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 04:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Msnhinet8 (talk) 04:15, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    No problem. Dmehus (talk) 04:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

Civility Barnstar Hires.png The Civility Barnstar
Thank you for your assistance. I will contact with ThatDudeRightHere first, Agent Isai informed me about his Discord. If he don't response, I will start the election. SchizoACC (talk) 12:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Hi man, are you alright? I need more volunteer admins on the wiki I manage. That at least looks at recent changes once every ONE WEEK, if anyone wants to volunteer. Thanks YellowFrogger (talk) 01:20, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I believe he's fine. But I do hope he returns today. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:30, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


I do hope you return eventually either today or tomorrow, as there's been less activity when you went inactive last week. :) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:33, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, looks like you're back, Dmehus. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:01, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Horrible Companies Wiki

I made an adoption request for this wiki. Could you please take a look? FatBurn0000 (talk) 08:57, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All adoption requests are effectively on hold until this user returns (at which point he will see and likely follow up on them all at once) or Void gains enough extra time to stab at the system himself. But I'm afraid additional notification may not help for this matter as the user is simply gone until further notice. --Raidarr (talk) 09:10, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WB Doug

😊 SperosDurrell (talk) 02:13, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Welcome back, buddy! Glad you came back. Yellowass.png (talk) 02:20, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to bother you and such but:

Are you going to be around on Discord eventually? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:45, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Am I not signed in there still? You can also DM me on IRC if need be. Dmehus (talk) 20:13, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


im dearly upset at my behaviors. Apologies, i hope you forgive me. SperosDurrell (talk) 02:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A little more housekeeping

Hello there. I believe the other stewards have been a little too busy to address these points, so I raise them here and hope I can bump their ranking in priority:

  • Requests for Comment/Community Directors (Amendments): I believe the results here are conclusively positive across the board and that it would be best for this to at least be approved quite soon so that it can be updated and in time, put to use. I've mentioned this in passing during a discussion about the Board on discord, and I believe it would at least somewhat help perception for this particular block to be lifted (so to speak, given the passage of time). I would volunteer and I know a few others would volunteer to put the details into their appropriate pages, so long as basic confirmation is done.
  • Requests for Comment/Landing page redesign: while not as conclusive, I believe this has similarly run its course for input and would benefit from closure. It does not prescribe a particular action and so I doubt there's anything that can be done with it, but I digress.

This is not to distract from other things such as the adoptions and needed investigations, and I'm aware I've delivered quite a number of pings recently. My apologies for doing so. Wish there were more viable hands on deck to help out, but alas. If there is something I can do to reduce the backlog in limited capacities that don't strictly require a steward but would otherwise fall to you from lack of volunteers, I'm open to hearing it. --Raidarr (talk) 16:35, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Raidarr Yeah, the two RfCs are on my radar (no pun intended) as well. For the first RfC, I've expressed a view there. While we don't have any policies precluding involved closures, though a bit of a custom if not a convention among stewards is to avoid them where possible, given the nature of the RfC, I don't feel me closing that would either advisable or in the best interests. That being said, there was no opposition expressed to any of the proposals, so it would be impossible to close any other way. Nevertheless, I was going to ask NDKilla privately to close that when he gets a chance. Regarding the other RfC, I've also expressed a view there, but as you say, it doesn't really prescribe anything, so it's not clear any action would result. Anyone can always take it upon themselves to redesign landing page, or any other page, and then bring them forward for discussion. I may consider an involved closure there, but will add that to the list of tasks for NDKilla to perform. As for the requests for adoption, that's on my to-do list this weekend, as is any outstanding global renames and other minor housekeeping tasks. Dmehus (talk) 16:59, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Raidarr: You say this but ignore the others on the Stewards Noticeboard without being busy as well. If you don't want to continue the conversation, choose not to talk. Yellowass.png (talk) 17:06, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@YellowFrogger: If you have a problem with my activity, by all means raise it on my talk page, otherwise you are out of scope here. --Raidarr (talk) 17:18, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Raidarr: How out of scope? If they're talking about busy stewards. Yellowass.png (talk) 18:17, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what YellowFrogger meant by their original reply, but on the other hand, I don't feel it is out of scope either. In any case, both of you please remember that we're all volunteers here, coming from multilingual backgrounds and cultural contexts, and to assume good faith. Dmehus (talk) 18:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: Ok. I Just opined. Yellowass.png (talk) 18:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@YellowFrogger: With dmehus's input in mind,please explain your original comment, including examples of which threads I am ignoring. --Raidarr (talk) 19:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Raidarr: Well, I don't even need to go into too much detail. Just see the Stewards Noticeboard, the {{ping}} notifies the user. Forget it. Yellowass.png (talk) 19:20, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nevermind. Let's do more important things Yellowass.png (talk) 19:21, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I don't understand the statement you made, but agree it's not productive to continue this further. Let's chalk it up to an unexplained mistake and learn from it. Dmehus (talk) 19:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


hi Doug, just wondering what the outcome of the wiki ban was. Thank you. SperosDurrell (talk) 14:22, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If your awake, agent isai sent you a message. SperosDurrell (talk) 03:25, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Window between wiki requests

The first time you pinged me I ignored it. As you are continuing to ping me forces me to clarify the intentions of the above.

As Meta has Requests for Comment, I assumed that Miraheze welcomed input from editors where they consider could improve it. From the noticeboard postings, Miraheze has some disruptive activities and IMHO with additional condition(s) on Request a wiki could help:

  1. step 1 by controlling new wikis which I proposed above. I find it offensive your claim my intentions was a vendetta against SperosDurrell. I am fully aware of Stewards' noticeboard and its purpose for use.
  2. step 2 was to remove inappropriate wikis, what I and expect donors do not believe belong here. But in your rejection of above, you clearly stated that Miraheze policies are perfect and do not need modifying - and Miraheze is proud to host wikis like this, this and this.

As editors are required to Request a wiki, I assumed that Wiki Creators vetoed inappropriate wikis (why I joined) but now with hindsight, they only replace the absent automated system, that Fandom has.

Within the first hour as a Miraheze member, DarkMatterMan4500‎ accused me of being a spammer for a template I created on the Test Wiki to benefit and now in use on wikis. I joined Miraheze as escapism from COVID19 controls. But from the behaviour from you, other rights holders and editors, actually explain why COVID19 controls exist.

You have made it clear, I should be thankful to edit an ad-free, subscription-free Miraheze and no reason to visit Meta. So do not respond as I will not read or see any further pings.
PercyUK (talk) 20:05, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

if you want to take it out on someone do me, not Doug. SperosDurrell (talk) 23:02, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify a couple things, I never claimed your intentions for proposing the RfC was some sort of "vendetta." Not at all. As I stated, I merely suggested that RfC was not the venue to deal with cross-wiki user conduct-related issues. Rather, stewards' noticeboard is the place to raise those sort of things. SperosDurrell was dealt with, and given a global user restriction preventing him from requesting more than one public wiki and from operating more than one user account. To your second point, again, I never said that. Rather, we have the tools and policies in place to deal with problematic wikis. I am not aware of those wikis, but I can definitely look into them. What are the issues? Dmehus (talk) 01:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


If someone asks on the Stewards noticeboard can I help even though I'm not a steward? YellowFrogger (Talk Edits) 02:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

YellowFrogger Yes, absolutely, you can assist users where (a) you are completely certain you are able to provide information that is both helpful and completely accurate and (b) it does not require the intervention of a Steward, other than as a clerk to manage user expectations of course. Dmehus (talk) 00:47, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why can’t I comment

Can you please tell me that? Carpenter family (talk) 00:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Carpenter family If you are referring to polcompballwiki, it is because I gave you a short block to warn you and caution you to be civil to other users and to respect the Code of Conduct. You must not call them "retarded" or otherwise make uncivil comments about them, such as about someone's mental capacity and the like. The block was only for three days, but if you are certain that you've learned your lesson and will not repeat the behaviour, I can shorten it for you. Dmehus (talk) 00:45, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
well, I have, my lesson is that the wiki is full of jerks that hate me for just not knowing that much about politics, I hate them all, even my friends have betrayed me, I now realize why fandom closed the pcb wiki, it was to stop all the hatred, pcb sucks, I never want to go back - Carpenter family (talk) 01:11, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if they're being not nice to you, you can address your concerns via my local talk page there, or to Agent Isai's local user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 01:31, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yugoslav just keeps driving me up the wall and treats me like crap, same with nazbolgang12. Carpenter family (talk) 01:35, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Yes check.svg Users locally reminded to be civil. If you guys can't be civil and nice to each other, I've recommended to you all to avoid each others' user talk pages and not undo each others' edits. Dmehus (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It honestly sounds better to just leave the place behind. It's a constant source of moderation work by the entities overseeing it (BallMedia and the Miraheze platform itself), so you'd be doing something of a service by letting it go. Let them wallow, don't step in their goop. --Raidarr (talk) 10:44, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It kinda does since the most of the community kinda hates me Carpenter family (talk) 21:19, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Come on man

Why can I not still comment, it’s been more that three days Carpenter family (talk) 23:47, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Page Forms users

Hello. After getting stuck in making forms for my wikis, I'm going to find some help, but... I'm not sure if Miraheze's wikis did have any other wikis that use Page Forms for shaping articles. Could you help me get the data if any other wikis do use it? Including how many and what's these wikis' names. Pisces (talk) 05:20, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change the subject of my wiki

Hi, I would like to know if I wanted to change the subject of my wiki; for example to turn my "Characters Wiki" for all fictional characters into a "Fiction Wiki" that would encompass media, objects, and places with. Could I? Darkrai18 (talk) 17:53, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Darkrai18 Sure, you can. Thanks for checking to ensure your wiki's purpose and scope would be in compliance with Content Policy. "Fiction Wiki" is a bit vague, though. What sort of content would you be writing about? As well, if your existing wiki does not have much content on it and you're the only contributor to your wiki, preference would be for you just to request a new wiki here, as opposed to requesting a wiki database rename on Phabricator as database renames can be a tad messy and also don't easily track the origin of the wiki in Special:RequestWikiQueue, taking care to define a clear purpose and scope for your new wiki. If you no longer require your existing wiki, you can just make it private and mark it as closed, and, optionally, request that it be deleted, if you want to make the subdomain available for other potential wikis sooner than 180+ (or thereabouts) days. Dmehus (talk) 15:16, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fiction Wiki would be about fictional characters as before but also games, franchises, places, weapons, ect... And if I would like to transform my wiki, and not create another one, it would be to keep my content. I'm not saying it would happen right away, I don't even know if it will ever happen, it was just to know if I had the right to change the subject of my wiki or if I had to ask permission first. Darkrai18 (talk) 15:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


How do I mark an edit as patrolled? — YellowFrogger (Talk Edits) 00:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

YellowFrogger There's a couple methods. I usually use the ?action=history method on pages on my watchlist, and click on the previous diff link, then the "mark as patrolled" link appears. You can also use Special:RecentChanges, clicking on the diff link (the current diff link) to mark an edit as patrolled. In that method, I right click on the link, launching it in a new tab, so as to preserve my RC page. Keep in mind, though, if it's the first revision of a given page, you have to use the permanent link link to patrol the page, as there's not a current/previous diff page view. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:26, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Checkeruser Rights on Nicolopedia

@Dmehus: HI , I request you to kindly give checker user rights on nicolopedia as I am the founder, administrator, bureaucrat of nicolopedia. I have total edits 1,215 on nicolopedia.Jiggyziz (talk) 15:35, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, unfortunately, we cannot give you CheckUser right off the bat. But, you can get it if you do a local election equivalent to Steward Elections. This requires you to sign an NDA with Miraheze Limited, do an election where at least 20 users have voted, and more than 80% have supported. Cheers, -- Bongo Cat (talk) 15:37, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ideally requests of this nature are made on the Stewards' noticeboard so any Steward or able user might answer. In the meantime, the bar is very high per above and even then is granted strictly by trust and necessity; experience on individual wikis pretty much does not matter and the vast majority of cases where CU might be used should be made as reports to the SN, as Miraheze takes the ability to check people's IP very seriously. If you have a particular instance where it's needed, it's preferred to detail that instance on the SN so a Steward may investigate. --Raidarr (talk) 16:09, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Jiggyziz In addition to what has been specified above, while these rights can be granted locally as Bongo Cat described, and provided the prerequisite is in place and accepted, as Raidarr noted, any such local election could not be effected (i.e., put into place) until a second person had undergone the same requirements, as a sort of check and balance. Practically speaking, it is not needed. Stewards can perform this function for you, provided there's good reason (i.e., spambots, abuse of multiple accounts in violation of a local block, etc.). Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]


@Dmehus: Hi there, I know you're very busy (from what I've heard) but is it ok if I ask if you want ti look into my adoption request for by Dec 3? The wiki I mentioned has been locked because it was inactive for several weeks, and it will be automatically deleted within early December or so (though I might be wrong -- could only be by February 2022, as wikis lock after 60 days of inactivity). Only two edits were made by the creator, and both were on the front page itself. RMV2003 (talk) 17:08, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The New Reception Wiki

I understand that you nor any other steward is going to reopen this wiki, but can some of the pages from it at least be imported? I made a list of pages that should be imported here, although the list is rather long. FatBurn0000 (talk) 05:26, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]



I need you to protect this page for auto confirmed users edit only: Template:YellowFrogger/ass (it's my signature)

Thanks --YellowFrogger (Talk Edits) 03:37, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]