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: {{ping|Tycio}} You should be able to simply remove it through Special:UserRights. If you cannot, you can enable it through Special:ManageWiki. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 00:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 
: {{ping|Tycio}} You should be able to simply remove it through Special:UserRights. If you cannot, you can enable it through Special:ManageWiki. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 00:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
   
{{ping|Naleksuk}} thank you for reply!
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{{ping|Naleksuh}} thank you for reply!
   
I think I figured it out: Bureaucrats by default only have the ability to upgrade others to B but not downgrade others from B. You can't even demote yourself! However I was able to find a solution in editing the permissions of usergroups: I just briefly gave myself the right to demote: quickly used it to remove that from others holding the rank, and then removed the right again. One doesn't want to carelessly have that option open so removing rights you don't plan on casually using (like demoting oneself accidentally, for xample) seems like a wise choice.
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I think I figured it out: Bureaucrats by default only have the ability to upgrade others to B but not downgrade others from B. You can't even demote yourself! However I was able to find a solution in editing the permissions of usergroups: I just briefly gave myself the right to demote: quickly used it to remove that from others holding the rank, and then removed the right again. One doesn't want to carelessly have that option open so removing rights you don't plan on casually using (like demoting oneself accidentally, for example) seems like a wise choice.
   
 
The key to changing these rights seems rooted in whether the "ManageWiki" box is checked at https://drawnfeet.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/bureaucrat (or any other usergroup) because without that box checked you can't access the field at all. I think only bureaucrats have it checked by default but I should probably go and look and see if anyone fiddle with them during their time as a crat.
 
The key to changing these rights seems rooted in whether the "ManageWiki" box is checked at https://drawnfeet.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/bureaucrat (or any other usergroup) because without that box checked you can't access the field at all. I think only bureaucrats have it checked by default but I should probably go and look and see if anyone fiddle with them during their time as a crat.
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Could help with a hunt for any things which need to be changed. It's essential only the crat has ManageWiki checked or otherwise it's a figurehead name. [[user talk:tycio|ty]] 01:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 
Could help with a hunt for any things which need to be changed. It's essential only the crat has ManageWiki checked or otherwise it's a figurehead name. [[user talk:tycio|ty]] 01:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Tycio}} Okay, this is by design, as intentionally, [[stewards]] are supposed to be called upon to remove the <code>bureaucrat</code> bit from user(s) on the local wiki when requested on [[stewards' noticeboard]]. I was conferring with {{ping|Void|NDKilla}} on the course of action to take. Though not ''great'' that you took the action yourself, as I feel like [[stewards|steward]] review of the circumstances between the local dispute would've been helpful, it's probably okay, and it's good you reverted the change in [[Special:ManageWiki/permissions]]. To your last question, you can view changes performed in ManageWiki using [[Special:Log/managewiki]]. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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removing bureaucrats on other projects

How does one go about doing that, like if you accidentally promote someone to crat instead of sysop? ty 23:46, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Tycio: You should be able to simply remove it through Special:UserRights. If you cannot, you can enable it through Special:ManageWiki. Naleksuh (talk) 00:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Naleksuh: thank you for reply!

I think I figured it out: Bureaucrats by default only have the ability to upgrade others to B but not downgrade others from B. You can't even demote yourself! However I was able to find a solution in editing the permissions of usergroups: I just briefly gave myself the right to demote: quickly used it to remove that from others holding the rank, and then removed the right again. One doesn't want to carelessly have that option open so removing rights you don't plan on casually using (like demoting oneself accidentally, for example) seems like a wise choice.

The key to changing these rights seems rooted in whether the "ManageWiki" box is checked at https://drawnfeet.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/bureaucrat (or any other usergroup) because without that box checked you can't access the field at all. I think only bureaucrats have it checked by default but I should probably go and look and see if anyone fiddle with them during their time as a crat.

Do you know if there is a way to view a Special:Log of changes made to permissions like one does w/ Special:Log/rights ?

Like for example to see who changed a permission and when?

Could help with a hunt for any things which need to be changed. It's essential only the crat has ManageWiki checked or otherwise it's a figurehead name. ty 01:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Tycio: Okay, this is by design, as intentionally, stewards are supposed to be called upon to remove the bureaucrat bit from user(s) on the local wiki when requested on stewards' noticeboard. I was conferring with @Void and NDKilla: on the course of action to take. Though not great that you took the action yourself, as I feel like steward review of the circumstances between the local dispute would've been helpful, it's probably okay, and it's good you reverted the change in Special:ManageWiki/permissions. To your last question, you can view changes performed in ManageWiki using Special:Log/managewiki. Dmehus (talk) 02:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]