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Revocation of Fungster (Wiki Creator)

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 * Per self-acceptance of behaviour - not revoked under self request. John (talk) 17:44, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

User: Fungster ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: This request is made in my capacity as a user. After an IP address vandalized Meta earlier today, User:Fungster suspiciously wrote this comment on this talk page, basically implying that his IP is the one who did the vandalism (therefore him). In light of this, I don't think he has any place to continue to be a wiki creator, as wiki creators must be users who are trusted. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 16:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * And if my right was removed, I will never apply for this right again. Instead, I will apply for rights such as translation administrator or rollback. Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 12:14, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Now I know why I applied too early to be a wiki creator. Similar to Bonnedav where he/she has registered more than half a year before applying as a wiki creator. the next time I will request as a wiki creator is when my sister stops vandalizing (that will be possibly impossible) Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 12:42, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Additional comments:

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * 1) As initiator. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 16:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Per the reason @Reception123 gives. Paladox (talk) 16:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 3)  Nope. it was my sister who vandalized the wiki. Fung ster  (contribs - email - CA) 12:12, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 4) Making (possibly) fake excuses, see 3rd.--MCpillager (talk) 12:26, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 5) I change to  and withdraw this request. I will really blame my sister. Fung ster  (contribs - email - CA) 12:38, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


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SA 13 Bro (Wiki Creator)

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 * Successful. John (talk) 21:18, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

User: SA 13 Bro ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: I am nominating User:SA 13 Bro as a wiki creator, because he checked his stats, he/she has in contact on the Community noticeboard, and also, he/she helps to resolve conflicts. Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 09:30, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of nomination here:

Comments/Questions
Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * I am glad and appreciate you that nominating me to be one of the Wiki creator volunteer on here, but I doesn't knew what should I replication on you. Even though I have some certain experience use of the MediaWiki hosting interface and the acknowledgement TOU policies guideline, I am currently reviewing the w:WP:FRAM case on Wikipedia, anyway I accept the candidate nomination. SA</b> 1</b>3</b> B</b>r</b>o</b> (talk) 23:50, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Since my rights were removed, we need to keep a steady amount of wiki creators and I already requested a wiki. Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 04:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) Same as Fungster.--MCpillager (talk) 14:18, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It is probably best to wait for the candidate to accept the nomination before voting. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 14:21, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The candidate already accepted the nomination Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 04:45, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Fung</b> ster  (contribs - email - CA) 04:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Active around Meta. Reception123  (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 04:42, 17 June 2019 (UTC)


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RhinosF1 (Wiki Creator)
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 * Successful. John (talk) 21:20, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

User: RhinosF1 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: I'd like to help out with Miraheze a lot and understand the procedure regarding wiki creation. I have 2 wikis myself, one which I am working on and one which I am about to start adding to soon. I have also been helping out with Phab tasks and moving them into the correct places. I know a bit about Python and have worked on some IRC & mediawiki bots.

Additional comments: I'm RhinosF1 in most places (GitHub, WMF projects, IRC, discord)

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below. If you were elected wiki creator will you approve/decline wiki requests or will you just create wikis yourself? Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 08:55, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comments/Questions
 * I'll be processing creation requests mainly. User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 14:29, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay. Also this is the biggest vote I've ever seen. Let's see if we can reach 10 or 20 votes! Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 23:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I am aware how big the turnout is and I thank everyone for turning up. 10 would be nice but 20 probably a miracle. There's only about 14 hours left. User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 05:00, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I need someone else to help me slowly fry the servers... :) In seriousness this user is more than qualified. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 20:54, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Very good user, we have an ABSOLUTE NEED for wiki creatorship. Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 06:13, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Helpful user who could help by having wiki creator. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 06:31, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Trusted by the community.-- 05:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Bonnedav (talk) 10:00, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * per above.MCpillager (talk) 15:18, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * -- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  18:59, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Per above.--MCpillager (talk) 10:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


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System Operator (sysop)
User: System Operator ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: sysop Reason: I want to fix any error on the Main Page

Additional comments:

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * too new of a user, try again when you have a bit more history - maybe post to Administrators' noticeboard or Talk:Miraheze to get errors fixed for now . User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 20:51, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * per above.-- 05:07, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Requesting adminship immediately after registering an account is a sign of hat collecting. --Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 08:51, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Too new and no real contbutions to Meta yet. Bonnedav (talk) 10:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Amanda Catherine (Wiki Creator)
User: Amanda Catherine ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; block log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: I would like to help out more on Miraheze and I understand that more wiki creators are always needed

Additional comments: I've been on the fence about whether I wanted to put this out here for a couple of days now, and I've ultimately decided to go for it. I've been a member of Miraheze in good standing for approximately a full consistent year now. Despite having a few periods of inactivity due to personal issues, I believe that I am still able to volunteer at this basic level.

In the interest of full disclosure and transparency, an essay regarding my history with Miraheze can be found here. However, as that is entirely history, I will not discuss the contents or the context of that essay here, but I'm putting it out for anyone who may want to read it. Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Comments/Questions
Are you under 18? If you are, we want to see some very young volunteers on Miraheze, and maybe if this is continued, we could outrun the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act and sign an appeal to John. I am under 18 too. --Znotch</b>190711</b> (Contribs - My wiki - CA) 17:23, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it's OK for her to become a wiki creator if the community thinks she's trustworthy again. Personally, I am not opposed to it, at least.-- 09:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I feel that's an inappropriate question because it is personal information. I will not disclose my age, besides stating the fact that I am a legal adult. Amanda Catherine (talk) 17:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Votes

 * While I do think she's been helpful on phab and other places for months, I wasn't around back when she had some issues with the community, and thus I don't think I'm in the position to judge whether she has regained the community trust. Therefore, I would like to keep myself abstained on this topic.-- 09:27, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Under no circumstances I trust this user with any user right. &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  09:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Should I count your comment above as a vote, or a mere comment (or could you make it clear using a voting/comment template)?-- 10:55, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It looks like a clear oppose to me. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#DC143C">'C' ) 11:35, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * As an opinion, true, but whether we should treat it as an official vote is a different thing.-- 11:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I do not use templates. Treat it as oppose. &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  12:55, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for your clarification.-- 13:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't usually comment on non-advanced user rights requests so this act alone shows the strength and angle I'm coming from. I'm completely ignoring the history here, it's irrelevant to me. It's a case of both sides baiting each other where both sides carry fault and neither has the morale ability to go "yeah well you did x" because the side saying that, did something equally as bad. Amanda has been fairly active both community and technical wise, I have full trust in her ability to handle wiki creations and she always pushes the understanding of obscure, unwritten or unclear policies, guidelines and behaviours. This is an action I like as it increases and enforces accountability. I do not believe she will abuse the ability, neither will she use them against the written policies since she is such an advocate of clear and written word. Further with recent changes, there is even less risk with wikicreator privileges than in the past - so even if I had doubt, the doubt would not be a major issue for me. John (talk) 12:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Uh, both sides? Then what's your view on the fault the community side had back then? Could you tell us in detail?-- 13:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If you review the history, my views are made clear there. In summary, members of the community and Miraheze system administrators chose to provoke conflict, create unnecessary drama and chose to take escalatory steps instead of dispute resolution, listening and responding appropriately. There was a choice of "us v them" mentality instead of a fostering inclusive community vibe, where everyone is equal. John (talk) 15:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * helpful on phabricator, seems to know how things work. I trust this user won't do anything stupid with the tools. Also able to help with french Spanish requests, which is even more helpful to the already small team and a helping hand is always welcome. User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 20:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, why do you mention French requests? According to the userpage, the user does not speak French. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#DC143C">'C' ) 05:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Corrected. Silly me. User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 06:29, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I would like to say yes, I think she could help, but I do not feel able to give my opinion in this situation. She has had a problem with the community in the past and I have not been at that time. I do not know the user very much to say yes or no. -- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  10:04, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no concern about Amanda's sister had disruption in the past ago, anybody were make the mistaken, nobody else are perfection, as long as the person knew how to learn and reform their bad behavior. Amanda seen for me are experienced, and I think is eligible to be volunteer. S</b><b style="color:orange">A</b><b style="color:gold"> 1</b><b style="color:green">3</b><b style="color:blue"> B</b><b style="color:indigo">r</b><b style="color:violet">o</b> (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I know I had a bad behaviour, I am willing to correct it and i wouldn't be active for now until the RfC about me has closed and the consensus is not to lock the user (but at least the compromised accounts were locked) for now i am on shoutwiki. let me know if someone is willing to join my wiki (http://en.ultipedia.shoutwiki.com) --<b style="color:blue">Znotch</b><b style="color:red">190711</b> (Contribs - My wiki - CA) 17:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Although we do need more wiki creators, My strong oppose means one thing: User:Amanda Catherine says that "Despite having a few periods of inactivity due to personal issues," I don't think a user full of personal issues should be a wiki creator, as Miraheze is growing bigger and wiki creators who are inactive for a week or so should be removed from all rights (except for autoconfirmed) in my view. I cannot tolerate wiki creator candidates in this way as some new users who don't know the internal structure or Miraheze should have their wiki requests approved sooner. --<b style="color:blue">Znotch</b><b style="color:red">190711</b> (Contribs - My wiki - CA) 17:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The personal issues that I experienced in the past have been resolved for now, and so they should not affect my ability to be a wiki creator. Besides, while we do need more wiki creators, we have enough who are prolifically active that it's not the end of the world if I happen to need to take some time off again. This isn't adminship or stewardship where extended inactivity is discouraged. Revoking advanced rights after just a week of inactivity is unreasonable and we would end up with far fewer, not more, users with advanced rights under that principle. Considering your inappropriate question above, and your questionable behavior elsewhere, this will be my last interaction with you. Amanda Catherine (talk) 17:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I do agree with Amanda that revoking wiki creator after one week is an absurd proposal, as users cannot be expected to be that active at all times, wiki creator is a volunteer position after all. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#DC143C">'C' ) 18:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Since it is resolved, I --<b style="color:blue">Znotch</b><b style="color:red">190711</b> (Contribs - My wiki - CA) 08:11, 19 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I have thought about it better and I have decided to give my support to the user. I see that it is quite active in Phabricator, so it could be helpful to create wikis. I hope my change of mind is not frowned upon. ✌ -- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  17:39, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I do not know this user very well and do not know the history so I prefer to not vote yes or no in this case. --DeeM28 (talk) 08:33, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Same as DeeM28.MCpillager (talk) 10:04, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Gustave London (CheckUser)
User: Gustave London ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; London blocks log &bull; London rights log &bull; London global rights log ) Group: CheckUser Reason: Quero ser check user na centopédia(farmwiki),sou fundador de lá.

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 * Comments/Questions

RhinosF1 (sysop)
User: RhinosF1 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: sysop Reason: I'd like to apply for sysop even though I'm new because I've noticed how small the sysop group is and I think I could be a good extension to the current team. During recent issues with vandalism and where things required a sysop-attention there can be a long wait for sysop attention when I've been around and could have been helpful but had to wait for a sysop to turn up which was in cases hours later. Additional comments: I also have been helping Miraheze on Phab and Github and I use this nick on IRC/Discord/Wikimedia/Github and probably a few more things if you want to check on anything I've done elsewhere or ask me anything. If you spot an account using RhinosF1 and aren't sure if it's me, please ask. Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * i think the user is trustworthy. I also suggest that PlavorSeol’s vote be struck out as that concern is over with and I myself could see how policy could of been interpreted by anyone the way RhinosF1 interpreted it. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 15:24, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Reasons are on wiki creator request.MCpillager (talk) 11:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)


 * S/he's been very active on meta, and I think s/he is trustworthy to have sysop permissions.-- 12:33, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Seen to me are trustworthy and experienced user. <b style="color:red">S</b><b style="color:orange">A</b><b style="color:gold"> 1</b><b style="color:green">3</b><b style="color:blue"> B</b><b style="color:indigo">r</b><b style="color:violet">o</b> (talk) 17:57, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Not coming back officially until I receive the news that RhinosF1 becomes a steward. <b style="color:blue">Znotch</b><b style="color:red">190711</b> (Contribs - My wiki - CA) 07:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks but you might have a while to wait. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - ) 08:08, 6 August 2019 (UTC)


 * See also Requests for Comment/Meta administrator and bureaucrat policies. This request must last for at least a week and at least “20 votes are needed” (the actual number is ~1). <b style="color:blue">Znotch</b><b style="color:red">190711</b> (Contribs - My wiki - CA) 07:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It was proposal 7 that passed as far as I can tell At least a week and 70% support.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - ) 08:08, 6 August 2019 (UTC)


 * He is a good user or at least that's how I see it, I think he can contribute a lot as a Meta Wiki administrator. -- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  04:12, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Per Dark Dragon Gustave London (talk) 12:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Amanda Catherine (talk) 14:40, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The user is active and helpful so he will be a good admin on Meta. --DeeM28 (talk) 18:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Gustave London (Wiki Creator)
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 * Unsuccessful, feel free to help out and contribute in other ways. -- Void  Whispers 18:48, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

User: Gustave London ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; London blocks log &bull; London rights log &bull; London global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: I would love to help the wiki and think creating wikis would be my area.

Additional comments:

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * 1)  New user, unknown in the community.MCpillager (talk) 13:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * 2)  as above. Too new.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - ) 14:17, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * 3)  Personally I feel that wiki creatorship on Miraheze is the role that should be "no big deal" because there are only two policies that they have to follow, and neither is very complicated. However, that being said, looking through this user's CentralAuth, I don't feel that they have enough global activity at this time to justify my support. I'm happy to support anyone for wiki creator as long as they show some significant global activity somewhere, but having only 39 edits to the wiki where they are the most active (and the wiki where they hold bureaucrat and sysop permissions) doesn't quite inspire confidence. Amanda Catherine (talk) 14:40, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * 4)  new user barely known around unfit for this position. --DeeM28 (talk) 18:17, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * 5)  Sorry, you are quite a new user in anon ago, w:WP:TOOSOON for now. <b style="color:red">S</b><b style="color:orange">A</b><b style="color:gold"> 1</b><b style="color:green">3</b><b style="color:blue"> B</b><b style="color:indigo">r</b><b style="color:violet">o</b> (talk) 23:50, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


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Revocation of MacFan4000 (sysop)
User: MacFan4000 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

General information
Type: Revocation Group: sysop

Reason for request
Since 22 May, after sysadmins took away his sysadmin permissions because of a investigation according to the logs MacFan4000 has not had any edits or any actions on Miraheze at all. Meta needs active administrators not people who seem to have left the project. --DeeM28 (talk) 18:15, 8 August 2019‎
 * Plus, this user has advanced user rights and one time I asked him what is going on on testwiki.wiki, and this reply from RhinosF1 already stated that he isn't active anywhere.
 * That was based on pure stats from Phab, Meta, IRC etc. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - ) 08:44, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Comments
I feel like users who have advanced user rights who are inactive on wikis should have their rights immediately revoked if stewards as a group establish a consensus which opts out of the current admin inactivity policy (set up at 28 June 2019) as 6 months inactivity. There have been cases where users got removed from wikicreator rights due to inactivity (especially this diff), so I think this request for removal should prevail. --znotch190711 (temporary signature) 08:34, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * There is absolutely no need for Stewards to override a local wiki's policy, if it functions and if the administrators are active. It is out of the question that the Meta admin policy would be "opted out" by Stewards. Wiki creators have been removed based on the local policy, nothing else. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#DC143C">'C' ) 10:54, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Votes

 * as proposer. --DeeM28 (talk) 18:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with Dee, but extreme inactivity is not a major thing. The application of the new crat/admin policies has tightened the requirements a lot. Thanks, and . znotch190711 (temporary signature) 08:10, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * as I've said on the CVT page but I think we should maybe consider a post on community noticeboard or something to remove all rights on meta and global rights and anyone other action we want. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - ) 08:12, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * If I understand correctly what you're saying, I think CN is more of a discussion board rather than one where rights are handled. In my opinion, unless we have a specific page for revocation, it should be done on the same page as appointment. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#DC143C">'C' ) 08:27, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * it was more to stop multiple revocation discussions on the same person happening all over the place etc. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - ) 08:28, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * That is true, but we can't mix up global rights and local rights, as they are separate and have different requirements (i.e. Meta has a specific revocation rule, while CVT doesn't). Meta administrator and CVT are completely separate rights and thus shouldn't be mixed together. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#DC143C">'C' ) 08:34, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Got it ~ RhinosF1 - (chat) · CA · contribs · Rights - ) 08:35, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand but it is an unequal vote because here there are many votes and on the global rights page not really. --DeeM28 (talk) 18:43, 13 August 2019 (UTC)


 * It has not been very active Gustave London (talk) 19:43, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * per above.--MCpillager (talk) 15:58, 13 August 2019 (UTC)