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I am reviving this topic about the board of Miraheze and how Miraheze should be incorporated
Miraheze technically needs a board and needs to be incorporated. On my page about this topic, Miraheze, th "Service", should be incorporated and Wikipedians will revive this draft on WP once more external sources are found. On that page, we will divide Miraheze regions into Miraheze Europe, America and Asia. Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 08:13, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Miraheze doesnt need a board imo, and about that staff/contractor page, none of us are paid staff (AFAIK) we are all volunteer. I would prefer you to continue only if/after you get approval from staff or community (whichever is applicable). Thanks! Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 13:25, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Since Miraheze is an organisation we need to divide Miraheze into three governance regions: Miraheze Asia (which includes The Pioneer, Fukahire, SA and me, and also Revi), Miraheze Europe (which includes Paladox, Southparkfan, Rob Kam, and also Reception123), and Miraheze America (which obviously includes John and Labster). Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 13:54, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Is it really necessary? I would prefer to avoid so much bureaucracy and that the project focuses on the contents of wikis, avoid ambiguity in user permissions and make campaigns for donations among others. Having so much bureaucracy is going to make Miraheze look like Wikia/Fandom... that in the end it won't help the average contributor. Hispano76 (talk) 20:58, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think this isn't necessary, for the entire site it is written that Miraheze is maintained by volunteers, the staff and volunteers pages are public, as if to talk about government. Besides having the need to name the region from which a volunteer contributes could violate privacy, i don't think it is necessary to know where you are from or where we are. -- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  01:19, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Think about that. If Miraheze did become an organisation we will have to set up MH Asia MH europe and MH north america Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 10:40, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If the staff and sysadmins exist, and they did so much work to make Miraheze better, why are not paid at least by donations Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 10:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that the users who contributed voluntarily here tried hard to show transparency and offer a good service. They just did an annual survey showing a lot of interest in the consumer based on what they built, so starting with personal donations would look bad.
 * And i don't think we just have to look at the work done by the system administrators, all the volunteers do something to make this place better. In my case i only do translations, it seems very little, but I try to do it because i know friends who think that this is just a place for english speaking users, but i don't need donations to make it more accessible to them. -- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  13:35, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

There is obviously not a consensus to do this, if you want to open an RfC feel free although i can promise it wont get consensus either. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 14:11, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Stewards and CVTs should have a yearly meeting. For stewards, it is in Southparkfan’s house, and while CVTs is in Reception123’s house. Is that okay? Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 12:39, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I too concur that there is no need to organize users by world region. I don't conceal mine, others might, and nationality is generally not an issue except for varying skill at, and desire to use, English.  (If we had to sort users, I would prefer doing it by demonstrated maturity, so the recent wave of feuding children should have to eat at a separate table!)  Legal and financial organization of Miraheze is a topic to be handled by Stewards unless they should come to us for help or a mandate.   16:44 24-Jun-2019
 * Can Miraheze have at least some meetings? Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 09:09, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

How do I disable unlogged users from contributing?
Please help? Mar9122 (talk) 20:08, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You can use Special:ManageWiki/permissions to restrict the access of unlogged users. -- Void  Whispers 20:11, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Almost forgot, but make sure that any rights you remove from unlogged users is granted to the user group (or another group). -- Void  Whispers 20:26, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll try. Mar9122 (talk) 20:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm back and it seems like unlogged users can still use a forum for whatever reason. Is there a way to disable it? Mar9122 (talk) 01:50, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * sorry for the delay, but it should soon (by the time you see this probably) be possible to disable anon usage of WikiForum from Special:ManageWiki/settings under the edit section. -- Void  Whispers 00:09, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Meetings on Miraheze
Can Miraheze Have at least some meetings? Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 05:43, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * What do you expect to discuss? Given Miraheze size and speed of development we engage in active dialogue. John (talk) 08:09, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The point that I want to ask is that if Miraheze can have some meetings. --Fung ster (contribs - email - CA) 11:13, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I second @John, what would you expect us to discuss? It’s alright saying “having meetings”, but you need to know what your going to talk about, where your going to do it and what time your going to do it. Paladox (talk) 11:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * We are not big enough. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 13:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The meeting will talk about donations, because seeing Finances which is currently managed by Labster, it does not have as much donations that it would need to support our whole volunteer, which needs a better campaign for donations. On my view of User:Southparkfan/Fundraising-campaign-proposal, the campaign should be redirected to a Wikimedian such as SA 13 Bro, to attract more users to Miraheze instead of other wiki hosting services. Some people like Yaron are already working on Referata, and we need to change his attention. Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 01:12, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Why oppose? We are technically big enough to host meetings, possibly at Southparkfan's house.
 * You said TO-DO was incorporation to make finances better, why not discuss with becoming incorporated. Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 01:15, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

I cant even take you seriously when you say things like have a meeting at SPF’s house. I can’t take this proposal seriously either. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 02:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Always at the Founder's house if we are not big enough (we only have 6 staff) Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 02:56, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This is not a serious request. Before we even discuss anything else, firstly because all staff live in different locations. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 17:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * That's why we have to set up a travel policy. Expect RfCs. Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 02:03, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If I am to travel to different world regions, I want an expense account, and we should vote on whether it pays us to fly First Class. Seriously, do you have an agenda in mind (that requires face-to-face meetings versus interaction via Internet)? or shall we just have meetings and bicker about the catering and argue about the site of the next meeting?   05:17 29-Jun-2019
 * I am creating the agenda. Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 01:51, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, i really don't understand where you want to go. In recent days i've seen that you've proposed strange things... But to contribute something, i will simply comment: I was a volunteer in fandom and when we had meetings we did using BlueJeans and nobody ever thought of a meeting in someone's house. If Miraheze require meetings i think it could be something similar or just a chat using IRC or Discord? but it's staff stuff, so i will not say much either. Greetings. -- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  02:47, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Enabled in extensions "Comments", but can`t see them.
I looked through all settings, useless. What else should I do to use comments on my wiki bz.miraheze.com? Despierto (talk) 11:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, please take a look at mw:Extension:Comments. It requires that a parser tag in the form of  be placed on each page that can recieve comments. I'm not sure if there is any other more suitable, but be aware that there are some mass edit extensions that can be used to add the tag to all pages. --  Void  Whispers 00:13, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! That`s what I need!

Twitter cards, bis
In Community noticeboard/Archive 6, I inquire about a MediaWiki extension that adds meta tags to help Twitter display a graphic when I tweet out a reference to a page on my wiki. (Infrequent User:El Komodos Drago said it was as simple as installing an extension, and Reception123 offered to find out which one.)

I am told it is OpenGraphMeta, but I don't see any reference to it in Extensions. Moreover, I don't see a way to select extensions at Special:ManageWiki on TheMirror.miraheze.org, although I believe I used it in the past to add extensions.

(Reception123 reported studying this extension in Request features/Archive 3. And User:Michaeldakin in Community noticeboard/Archive 4 said he had enabled it but was dissatisfied with the results.)

Separately, Archive 6 of this page is not in the index at the top of the page. 13:37 28-Jun-2019
 * Extensions are managed through Special:ManageWiki/extensions, and the extension you are looking for appears on that page. -- Void  Whispers 00:14, 29 June 2019 (UTC)


 * It does indeed, and it now states that I have enabled it. I hope my confusion prompts an improvement in the documentation, such as (1) making "Extensions" visible from the Special:ManageWiki main page (as it is non-intuitive how to get there) and (2) documenting OpenGraphMeta at Extensions.  Thanks for your help!   05:13 29-Jun-2019


 * And it did indeed produce a Twitter card.  05:21 29-Jun-2019

Broken
Hi administrators, message boxes, navboxes, infoboxes and TemplateStyles message boxes are broken. This is because of a CSS problem. Please import all the code on Wikipedia’s MediaWiki:Common.css and copy paste it there so the problem can be fixed Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 03:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Can someone get a bot for me
Can any of the community members get a bot for me that sends a welcome message to the user talk page of that user when that user makes his first contribution or first log (excluding the account creation log)? --Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 03:11, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Enable the NewUserWelcome via Special:ManageWiki extensions. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 12:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Not on my wiki, but on Meta. --Fung</b> ster (contribs - email - CA) 00:07, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

how to fix error?
Hello! When I did the Template "Website" I got the error "Error Lua in Module: Wikidata on line 186: attempt to index field 'wikibase' (a nil value)." I think I need to enable the "Wikibase (client)" extension for the template to work. If I think correctly, how can I turn it on? Wiki — frog.miraheze.org

Importing page files
I am in the process of building my wiki. I have auto generated the pages I want to import. Using special page import file: I would like to import a few to make sure I have everything correct using the import files special page but I don’t know what to enter for the “interwiki prefix”. I have looked at mediawiki documentation but I am unable to decipher what I need. Any suggestions? Major uploading of all files: There are about 2000 files representing the hierarchy that are less than 3k each and the actual page text inside them is about 1k. Is the correct way to make a request through phabricator or is there some way to do this myself? Thanks, Eddie
 * An import of that size should be done via phab and sysadmins User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 16:37, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, please see Imports on how to request. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 18:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Znotch190711
<copied from AN> Hello,

I've opened this thread to discuss the actions of.

Firstly, this user has started a number of RfCs recently that they know are likely to fail and have been previously discussed varying from changes to the internal structure of Mirhaeze to CVT. Their latest RfC is a very long page with a number of proposals that even they themselves know are unlikely to pass and oppose.

I have also noticed that this user makes misleading comments as evidenced at their talk page where they claim to have not requested any wikis despite having done so and this discussion where they claim to have nominated me for sysop hypothetically and then deny this part way through which they refused to remove when I blanked it as I decided I did not want to be involved in this and are taking the mick about unaware WMF wiki users.


 * User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 15:58, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

I proposed this as I can see users easily getting offended if they are made out to be something they are not and discover lies or Znotch refuses to remove them and this ruining Miraheze's reputation User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 17:47, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Proposal
is required to remove any mention of users in hypothetical content on https://hypotheticalmeta.miraheze.org if the user requests it.

Discussion

 * This request would be out of the scope of AN since it does not concern Meta. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 16:11, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I put it all part of the same discussion but feel free to move to CN or something more appropriate. User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 16:16, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * While this may seem like bureaucray, if I as a Meta admin were to close this request I would not be able to due to the fact that I don't have authority to make a decision for another wiki. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 16:38, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you suggest an alternative venue to discuss this? User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 17:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) as proposer User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 15:58, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) Meta should have no opinion about how some other Miraheze wiki deals with a problem user.   16:54 12-Jul-2019

General Discussion
Updated User:RhinosF1 - (Quirc) (chat (on meta) ) · CA 17:47, 12 July 2019 (UTC)