Meta:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive 6

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Protect this page
Can the page User:IOnlyHaveATalkPage be protected from being created? That user intentionally has only a talk page for some displaying and testing purposes.  AP 📨 10:33, 14 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Would you like administrator or autopatrolled protection? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 11:00, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Admin  AP 📨 11:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:24, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you!  AP 📨 11:28, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Request for translation administrator (YellowFrogger)
I want to have rights that have never been revoked: As a Translation Administrator, I would mark some pages for translation with translate tag given my active contribution in translation, and my other language (no wonder most translation admins speak another language). As you can see here: User talk: YellowFrogger, Dmehus (he was the one who re-established my Autopatrolled rights) supports that I need these rights. Note: My English is a medium level, I use the translator just to make sure some words I don't know. But I don't trust one bit Thanks. YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 23:11, 15 December 2021 (UTC)


 * This seems reasonable to me given the user's involvement in translation and apparent competence with the tools, as well as offer a fair opportunity to contribute and prove himself in this technical aspect. --Raidarr (talk) 01:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yea! And what stands out from the translation admninistrator is speaking other languages. thanks for considering YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 01:48, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd probably expect that part, but the nice thing for TA is the technical marking they do and familiarity with the process. To be fair and for Administrators to note however, I am not authoritative on the TA process, and if I have the wrong impression here they may by all means disregard it. --Raidarr (talk) 01:52, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Pursuant to statements on Discord including the religious use of machine translation and other raised notes, I revoke my above statement in full. --Raidarr (talk) 02:32, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I use the translator but I don't trust it. I don't think you even knew that, (and yes, my English isn't totally bad, I understand and check things out). YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 02:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Another, translation admins don't really need to be fluent either. Just mark pages for translation. If not, there would have to be a group to translate pages, and my translations are good. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 02:41, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * If machine translations have been used systematically and without careful review then I'm inclined to remove all your translations. Given your recent conduct and the fact that translations are your major contribution, I'm also leaning on a block. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  10:15, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * But most people do. And as well, why my recent conduct? I don't remember breaking any rules. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 16:57, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Machine translations are usually of poor quality and anyone using them risks them being deleted if we can't review them confidently. Luckily, we have Lake who is a native speaker and was able to check yours without finding too many issues. You only have to look a few threads up to find recent issues with you. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  17:12, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I support weak oppose this <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨 01:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , how would you prepare pages for translation and where would you mark them for translation. Will you please prepare Alternate accounts for translation to show that you have fair knowledge of the how the extension works. Plus, will you please describe this recent edit (not talking about the edit summary). --Magogre (talk) 04:37, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * From recent contributions it appears to me that you may be going too quickly into things and it might be best to slow down before requesting rights and take time to understand the functioning of the Meta system. I also agree that using machine translations for translating is not appropriate and is not the point of human translators. --DeeM28 (talk) 18:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It's, I canceled my order, I agree with you YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 19:24, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Autopatrol User:Bukkit (Public)
This account is my alternative account. -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 15:32, 17 December 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅ ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  08:25, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Add this code to the bottom of common.js
Can this code be added to the bottom of common.js? It's a html checkbox. $(function {  var myElement = document.getElementById('acceptrequest-check');  myElement.innerHTML = '<input type="checkbox" id="chb" name="chb" value="chbchecked">'; });  Anpang   Talk   Stuff  07:43, 9 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Your code will probably be accepted yes, if it is useful for Miraheze and cites the reasons for creating it (like adding a template, etc.), but we also avoid a lot of code so as not to 'infest' with useless code <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 12:55, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Why? ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * (Avoid malicious code, which is not usable, etc)., but I think this one will be accepted because it creates a lot of templates <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 12:58, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I think Rhinos is driving at which templates would be enabled, and why we need them. --Raidarr (talk) 13:01, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm making an accept request checkbox template. Anpang   Talk   Stuff  02:14, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You can use TemplateStyles, this is ❌. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:01, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly. You can do User:Anpang/styles.css <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 21:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * No. It would be at Template:Template_name/styles.js ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:32, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm? <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨 00:57, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Templatestyles seems to not support js. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨 09:19, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * This because TemplateStyles doesn't support javascript. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨  03:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

RhinosF1, TemplateStyles does not support JavaScript. It is only used for CSS. — k6ka  <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 03:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

UI and UX improvements
Hi! I am new here and not sure where to propose a Possible UI improvement. Can someone direct me where UI and UX is discussed? ZBlace (talk) 05:57, 16 December 2021 (UTC)


 * On the Community noticeboard or our Discord server/IRC channel. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:57, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! You are free to delete this thread to keep the page clean as this was to specific question of little use for others. ZBlace (talk) 07:45, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Moved topic to M:AN, as Noticeboards shouldn't really have talkpages really, unless it relates to changing something about the noticeboard itself. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:31, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * OK - I wrote proposal on community noticeboard, but it did not get picked up by any interface admins as far as I see. --ZBlace (talk) 20:25, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * By the fact that changes to MediaWiki:Sidebar can only be made by Interface administrators (you requested a change to the Meta-Wiki Sidebar), so I think it was meant to be right here. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 20:32, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Update link
Could someone please update the "Community Wishlist Survey" link in the "What do you want to see implemented in Miraheze in 2022? Participate in our Community Wishlist Survey and let us know!" notice to go directly to the new title Community Wishlist for 2022? GTrang (talk) 04:37, 21 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the delay but this was ✅ yesterday. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 12:36, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Community portal
As you know, when on mobile (which accounts for most visits) features the Special:MobileOptions, and with the advanced configuration it is shown in the main menu that "community portal" page that it is actually no longer in use and is protected from further editing. I suggest that someone redirect this page to the Community noticeboard, or build a new community portal linking to the noticeboards, or better, suggest that the user do their own questions in the Community noticeboard or stewards noticeboard. This would perhaps avoid confusion. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 23:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * There are plans to revive the Community portal in the near future but I do agree the link should be changed if it redirects users to a page that is not in use. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 23:50, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, thank you for noticing. That is the former community noticeboard, and contains a historical archive. It's on my radar, but I'm not sure the best way to go about correcting this. We could probably history merge it into Community noticeboard/Archive 1, then create Community portal as a local Meta Wiki only community discussion forum. It's definitely on my radar, but quite low priority for the moment. Dmehus (talk) 23:51, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly. I'd like to see you do this or exactly that, (even if that's not a big priority). --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 02:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, ✅ the requested history merge at here, with a note to the follow up request at my user talk page (new diff #1 and old diff #2). Additionally, I would just like to thank for Pinus/Matsu for previously providing the suggestion. Note that I have additionally redirected Community portal to community noticeboard only temporarily if and/or until it is repurposed as a Meta Wiki-specific community discussion portal. Dmehus (talk) 18:51, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Trust and Safety courtesy notice to Meta administrators regarding BlackWidowMovie0
Meta administrators,

I'm Doug, a Trust and Safety Responder for Miraheze Limited, and I wanted to provide you with this courtesy notice regarding BlackWidowMovie0. The user was the subject of a full service ban, pursuant to the Terms of Use and originally effected by SRE on behalf of the Board of Directors of Miraheze Limited, it has been replaced with a partial service ban by way of local block on Meta Wiki. The local block was originally imposed by, primarily, two different Meta administrators, one of which was myself in a community capacity and the other of which was Reception123 in a community capacity. As articulated here at the user's user talk page, in order to enforce the restrictions of and conditions in place for the user's partial Trust and Safety service ban, as Meta Wiki is the central coordination wiki by which wikis are requested by users, a Meta Wiki block was necessary. Please note that this is in addition to, and not a replace of, the Meta–imposed block, and further that Meta administrators are free, should they choose, to provide notice to the user that their Meta administrator block has been lifted, but that should that occur, the Trust and Safety–imposed Meta Wiki block would remain. The inverse of this would also be true. Many thanks! :)

Should you have any procedural questions related to the above, I'm happy to answer them here. As always, any enquiries relating to this can be sent to the Trust and Safety team at.

Thanks,

Doug (talk) 18:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Patroller renounce Request (YellowFrogger)
Hello. Given my edits not adding much, (including peanut edits, reverted, etc) I request that I be demoted from patroller to (none), so that my edits are patrolled and further analyzed by volunteers. I'm inclined to request again just in another month. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 18:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm going to mark this as ❌. You're showing capacity to learn from what are very minor mistakes in patrolling. Dmehus (talk) 18:59, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed, if you think I'm not good, or that I deserve a revocation, remove it and tell me why. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 20:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I was not aware that they had patroller in the first place. Last I checked it had been revoked and if it had been restored I missed that. This user definitely should not be a patroller, although I am glad they recognize that and drew attention to it. I am not sure why the removal request was marked as not done, both because it was a very valid one and was a self-removal of rights request. Naleksuh (talk) 20:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Doug recommended me to wait at least (30) thirty days for me to request patroller, I did almost exactly that and he restored by "I maked genuine steps". What I'm pointing out here is because my latest edits need more monitoring from the patrollers themselves, and in order for the red (exclamation mark) to come back to my edits. --YellowFrogger  (Talk — ✐) 20:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Naleksuh, the reason I did not act on YellowFrogger's patroller user group removal requests is because I felt this was a sudden, knee-jerk request. In the past, we've historically held off on such requests, including when Universal Omega had previously requested his interwiki administrator bit be removed (circa November 2020). While the patroller bit can easily be re-added as quickly as it can be removed, on the other hand, we don't want to just be adding and removing bits upon request. If YellowFrogger insists on removing the patroller bit, then I will do that, but they should take that into consideration in terms of future near-term re-requests. Dmehus (talk) 21:07, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * To point out about the previous repeal, expanding on Dmehus comment, this was actually applied by a somewhat controversial admin who doesn't assume the good faith, for a silly thread that doesn't take anything on a Discord server. Users like Universal Omega don't like him very much. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 22:48, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, so are you wishing to rescind your resignation request, or are you still wanting to proceed? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:56, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Continue the rights even with the above user agreeing to renounce. I already explained to him above the reason for the revocation, although I was wrong in this story, there was no reason to generalize. If you see a negative change to my edits (if they are excessively disruptive) you can revoke the patroller's rights, and of course explain the reasons, as this usually helps to change the course of my type of edit, just as revoking caused me. lately. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 23:12, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Can't back the English text
I started to translate the paragraph "Сфера ответственности" from English to Russian. When I translated the first sentence and saved it, the rest English text of the paragraph disappeared. I don't know how to back it. RedFox (talk) 19:19, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * RedFox, I've procedurally ✅ this request from the talk page language subpage for both greater visibility, response time, and because talk page subpages should generally not be used. An administrator translation administrator should respond to your question shortly. Dmehus (talk) 19:40, 9 January 2022 (UTC)