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How do I change the theme of my wiki?
So, I want to turn Dream Fiction Wiki green, but how do I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlegSlaviraheze (talk • contribs) 08:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * First, welcome to Miraheze, and to Meta. Second, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) . Third, to answer your question, your wiki's style and apperance is done through Cascading Style Sheets, principally in your wiki's MediaWiki:Common.css interface file. You want to start with this very basic answer to this question at: FAQ. Beyond that, you could use your Discord account to join our Discord server, where a number of CSS experts exist to provide one-on-one support. You can also ask on IRC, at ; however, I do recommend using IRCCloud as your IRC client, as they provide a complimentary IRCCloud IRC cloak upon registering for an account, as your IP address would otherwise be available in an unmasked format. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Exporting my wiki
Depending on my association request, I may have to move the wiki to a private server. Is it possible to export a whole Miraheze hosted wiki including its pictures (jpg, pdf, svg...)

AMITRAM (talk) 10:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry to see you go :( You can export your wiki via Special:DataDump. Good luck with your wiki! Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 10:06, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't intend to, and I hope I won't have to. But my association may request it.
 * I'm sorry to bother you with this, but all my pictures will be exported along with all the wiki content (pictures and theirs old versions of one file ?) ? And then I can import them into my private server ?
 * AMITRAM (talk) 10:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, actually, Reception123 had not too long ago told me what the purpose of each of the three types of dumps was. XML includes all the public, non-suppressed revisions of your wiki, an image backup includes your uploaded files and images, and a ManageWiki backup includes your configuration settings from ManageWiki. I should also add that by "public," I mean the public revisions accessible to your wiki's audience (i.e., for your private wiki). Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 10:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks to you all for your answers,
 * I have a specific issue, I've added a new member with a read-only permission yet he can still modify existing pages, how can I prevent him from doing so ?
 * AMITRAM (talk) 11:27, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can modify any permissions by going to Special:ManageWiki/permissions. For example, if you want 'members' not to be allowed to edit, you would uncheck the edit right from their group. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:41, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I went to Special:DataDump for this wiki and I didn't find any options for generating the dump. Is this restricted to administrators?  Is the dump compatible with Special:Import? Тишина (talk) 18:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, Special:DataDump requires the,  , and   to use. By default, as seen here, it is assigned to the   user group when wikis are created (though local wiki bureaucrats can change this). There are three types of dumps, one contains the wiki's ManageWiki configuration settings, one contains the wiki's locally uploaded files and images, and the final one is a public XML export of all publicly available information (i.e., non-oversighted revisions, no private user settings, no user IP addresses, etc.). This latter dump is compatible with Special:Import, as it generates a similar XML file that Special:Export does. Note, though, that there is a 250 MB file size limit on wiki imports. Larger imports require a Phabricator ticket. As well, if you are importing a large number of templates and modules with a number of revisions, but which are below that threshold, you may time out and receive a 503 backend fetch error, so you should avoid that and request on Phabricator. Also, you can login to Phabricator using the "click here to login with MediaWiki" button, and it'll use your wiki login credentials to create an account for you. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:44, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * If you want to test the administrator tools, such as Special:DataDump, you can head over to Public Test Wiki, and request permissions, taking care to read its policies and stating a reason for wanting to test the tools. Though less common, you can test the generation of an XML dump of that wiki. Dmehus (talk) 21:46, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Like Special:GlobalRenameRequest
I want to make my local wiki like Special:GlobalRenameRequest, Special namespace's request page. How to make? Thanks. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 01:49, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe that special page can only be accessed on Meta. Can you clarify how you mean? You want to make a new separate special page? You could possibly try the PageForms extension, but not sure if that's what you're after. Dmehus (talk) 02:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I want to make a new separate special page. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 02:56, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That involves some php coding expertise, and would then likely involve you submitting that special page to either Wikimedia's Phabricator or Miraheze's Phabricator, depending on which extension it's related to. This MediaWiki help page provides some instruction on the mechanics involved in creating a special page. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:31, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * To add to (and perhaps clarify) what said, you would have to create a MediaWiki extension in order to have your own kind of special page. This does indeed require PHP developing skills. In addition, the extension would have to be secure in order to pass our security review process which is mandatory for every new extension excluding ones used by the Wikimedia Foundation. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:26, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

My miraheze
Can I get help I'm new here? Hrvcfr (talk) 01:35, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Firstly, welcome to Miraheze, and to Meta wiki. You're off to a great start by signing your posts with four tildes . Second, what do you need help with? Dmehus (talk) 01:44, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can start at FAQ. If you have more questions that aren't covered there then you can ask.  Тишина (talk) 01:45, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I need ppl to help my miraheze Hrvcfr (talk) 01:46, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

My miraheze
Come join criminal world if you are interested in crime topics.

Hrvcfr (talk) 01:58, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You should wait until your wiki has been approved and created. Also, I note you've created two threads with the same section header. Your section header should concisely describe your topic on the noticeboard. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 02:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry Hrvcfr (talk) 02:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 02:07, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

TwinkleGlobal
You can test beta Twinkle! Thanks! Gomdoli4696 (talk) 09:17, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * User:ChipWolf/TwinkleGlobal
 * User:Gomdoli4696/TwinkleGlobal
 * Thank you both for your work in importing that user script version of Twinkle on Miraheze. That will be helpful, and more streamlined, for users than setting up and installing the MediaWiki gadget version. I personally try and avoid the Twinkle templates, as I find them too formulaic and imperfect. However, Twinkle does have some very useful features, notably the pseudo-rollback feature "restore this revision." Dmehus (talk) 22:59, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Cross-wiki contributions
We can view Wikimedia project's cross-wiki contributions, Then how to view miraheze's cross-wiki contributions? Thanks. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 22:53, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * We would love to be able to offer the global user contributions tool on Miraheze; however, it's very resource intensive in that every query of a user's global contributions is a query of every database for every wiki to which the user has attached their account. Hopefully, we'll be able to offer it in the future, but there's no timeline for such an offering. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 22:56, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 23:11, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Scary transclusion is not working as expected
Hi altogether, in this topic I asked for an interwiki prefix. The prefix is working fine, but it seems to me that scary transclusion is ignoring all includeonly/onlyinclude/noinclude tags. Here is a template on my wiki: Transclusion, what it looks like in the same wiki and here an example of scary transclusion in an other wiki. Is this a bug or a feature? Am I missing something? Is there anybody out there who is using scary transclusion? Thank you for your support, Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 07:39, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll have to look into whether scary transclusion ignores the  and   tags. It's definitely possible this is either a known issue or a bug. In the mean time, you might try searching Wikimedia Phabricator as if it's a known issue or bug, that's where it would be tracked as it is a so-called upstream issue (outside of Miraheze's own maintained source code). In the mean time, what I might suggest instead is to essentially use it for very basic pages and templates. For example, you might create a "clean code" version as a subpage of the existing page, without such tags or a several levels deep of transcluded templates. As well, it is after all called scary transclusion for a reason. As just one example, see this example revision in my TestWiki sandbox in which I attempted to transclude the Special:GlobalUsers special page (note that this special page does not have local transclusion built into it, although I was able to transclude the page using scary transclusion, with, as you'll see, unexpected results). Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:10, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it seems this is actually a long-standing, and still open, bug, as seen in this Wikimedia Phabricator ticket. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you so much for your support. I had already the idea of adding a subpage with clean code but this does make life not really easier. With this bug scary transclusion is more or less useless for my purposes, Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 06:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have tried the method with clean code in a subpage of the template and performed some experiments. I could not find a way to pass parameters; compare "normal" transclusion with parameters with scary transclusion with parameters. This fact restricts the usability of scary transclusion to templates without parameters. Maybe there is a way and I just could not figure it out, Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 08:49, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Considering mw:Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding, maybe might work with parameters. K599 (talk) 16:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, having done some tests, it seems like using "raw:" works with "noinclude" and "includeonly" tags correctly. K599 (talk) 19:05, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you so much, raw: does the trick! Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 07:13, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Wiki community project script
I made a script that will display banners for wikis and provide a list of links at the bottom of the page for other wikis that have interesting topics or already have content on them.


 * https://tishina.miraheze.org/wiki/Wiki_community_script

Тишина (talk) 19:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Gazetteer
Could crimeworld be added to the list??? Ty Hrvcfr (talk) 06:58, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have just reverted last time because your wiki was not created, but you can add it now ! HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 07:05, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * How?? And thank you. Hrvcfr (talk) 07:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can add it when you did last time (depends of the category who are your wiki), and for create a link to your wiki, you can use the magic interwiki word  (for example for your wiki, this would be  ) HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 07:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ty Hrvcfr (talk) 07:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Np, you can maybe a little expand your description, but for the rest is OK :). HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 07:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Could someone please get the word out for the wiki I created??? Ty Hrvcfr (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Mywikipedia
Looking for more people to contribute to my wiki. Any ideas? It's https://mywikipedia.miraheze.org -- Iron Sword 22 (talk) 01:18, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

GlobalPreference
How to set? --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 23:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Please use Special:GlobalPreferences. The first column represents whether to set that specific setting globally; the second column, to the first's immediate right, represents whether to enable that specific function or setting. In Special:Preferences, for settings you've set globally, those settings will now be greyed out unless you set a local exception on that wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:49, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I was mistaken. Sorry. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 04:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Multilingual glossary ?
Hi, I started translating some pages of this Meta wiki into French.

Q: is there any multilingual glossary here that we could use to ensure homogoneous and consistent translations? Example: (en) e-mail address -> (fr) adresse e-mail or adresse courriel ? Gerdami (talk) 07:09, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That is an interesting idea, do you know how the Wikimedia Foundation (for example their Meta wiki) deals with this? Maybe we could also use their method. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no idea, sorry Gerdami (talk) 09:51, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually there is one at mediawikiwiki:Manual:Glossary that is currently translated into 3 other languages. Gerdami (talk) 11:51, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for suggesting this, Gerdami, with your question. That latest interwiki link is to the MediaWiki software manual, so wouldn't be a specific Wikimedia standard or practice. I would think the common sense way to handle this would be a Meta Wiki style guide (a Miraheze Meta Manual of Style, if you will), with a specific section focused on translations. Definitely not opposed to such an idea, but would be a rather large undertaking. As well, if it becomes too comprehensive in other areas of writing, it may encourage users to view that as a policy with little flexibility. I do like to follow stylistic conventions in some ways, but moreso for technical reasons than grammatical or vocabulary-type reasons. Even in English, we have some pages that no doubt use certain British or Canadian English spellings intermixed with U.S. English. Ideally, we should use a consistent English variation on a given page, but any WikiGnome can correct these as they see them. So, I would just say, go with whatever you prefer. Someone may prefer something else in the future, so it could get changed. If two French translators disagree on something, they can just discuss it on the talk page (though preferably not the  language subpage of the given talk page). Hope that helps a bit? Dmehus (talk) 14:48, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , the interwiki link I provided was just an example. If you agree I could start making a Help:Glossary page (I think it would be a good location) in English with the terms I find relevant while translating some existing pages into French, for example from the FAQ page. These terms could link to existing pages. Gerdami (talk) 18:15, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that's not a bad location for the final page, but I'm not sure what this would look like, so I'd rather suggest using a subpage(s) of your Meta userspace for now, and we can always move the page into Help: namespace and/or history merge in the earlier revisions from your page(s) as required. Dmehus (talk) 18:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Good suggestion. I will start that way. Gerdami (talk) 07:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Some problems about using out image
Oh, I wanted to show forum users' avatars in the main page automatically. It seems to be easy&mdash;all of forum users' avatars are in mc-uc.netease.com, so I only need to show the image of https://mc-uc.netease.com//data/avatar/userid_avatar_middle.jpg as a out image. Then I looked up mediawiki.org and enabled. I have known the setting will be invalid in Mediawiki 1.35+ so I also enabled.

After that, I used two forms –  and  .But to my surprise, there was only an icon of a damaged image and the avatar was not showed.

I also used widgets, but it was the same end as that two forums. I have tried other image urls, a few of them was success.

I seem to have found a problem - almost every out things such as out images, out js especially hosted in China things (for example China-cdn js) can not work on Miraheze. But in other wiki they can. The same code in zhmoegirlpediain my wiki(NMFWiki)

Why? If some settings are controlling it?

Thanks, --开炸弹车 (talk) 13:25, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Inspecting the console shows CSP blocking "mc-uc.netease.com", so you would need to open a Phabricator task to add that to the CSP whitelist. K599 (talk) 19:41, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Local interwiki request
I'm one of the admins at nssports and I'd like to request this as a local interwiki:

I'd do it myself but I don't think any of our admins has made 500 edits yet. Thanks for the help and I'm happy to address any questions. Kelssek (talk) 22:53, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The 500 edit requirement for local interwiki administrator, as far as I am aware, doesn't seem to be enforced. All that's required is that you be a local  on your local wiki. Nevertheless, I'll add this for you. Not a problem. Do you need either the   or   flags enabled? Dmehus (talk) 23:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ without the   and   flags, but can always be changed should the need change. Dmehus (talk) 23:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This works, thanks! --Kelssek (talk) 23:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 00:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Gadget Cat a lot
Is it possible to have this feature "Cat a lot" in my Wiki ?

AMITRAM (talk) 17:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yep. Gadgets, unlike extensions, don't require security reviews or approvals by system administrators to install. I'm not that familiar with that gadget's installation procedures, but speaking just generally, it involves importing the JS and CS files into your wiki's MediaWiki: namespace, then updating MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition to reference the gadget and its file, configuration variables, and the like. recently installed it on his wiki, so may be able to offer some assistance. Dmehus (talk) 17:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm gonna ask him.
 * Do you know where I can't get help for PDF files support ? I can't get thumbnails for this file format.
 * AMITRAM (talk) 17:50, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

My miraheze vanished
Travelguidesworld is gone. Plz fix. Hrvcfr (talk) 17:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not gone. just fixed the URL, as I told you in the wiki request. Additionally, I should also note that this was tracked on Phabricator as #T6324. You can now use travelguidesworld as your URL. Dmehus (talk) 17:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ty doug. Hrvcfr (talk) 17:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 17:54, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Poor SVG preview quality on commons.miraheze.org
Hi, I have recently uploaded two SVG images on commons. The preview files have a very low quality, this is much better in my wiki, compare to. Maybe the reason is that the SVG Converter on Commons is in default position commons settings (click tab Media). I have changed this in my wiki to Inkscape. Is there a specific reason for the setting in commons, maybe server load? Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 05:50, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This is an interesting problem, and you're right, the uploaded version on Miraheze Commons is of a much lower quality. You've certainly identified one possible explanation, but I must admit as to not being certain as to the exact cause. I am going to, a local  on Miraheze Commons to see if that may be the problem and, if so, to the effect the necessary change on Commons. Even if it's not the problem, as he is very technically inclined with all or most aspects of MediaWiki software, he may be able to identify a solution. Dmehus (talk) 09:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I’ve adjusted the setting, not sure if that’s fixed it. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 11:15, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem seems to be solved. I uploaded another SVG, the quality is nice now. AFAIK the preview images of former uploaded pics stay unchanged Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 11:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Advanced mobile edit
How to use to  function on my wiki? I don't know how to. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 07:32, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Inactivity banner while active
Hello

My wiki shows an inactivity banner even though there were recent edits and the Inactive checkbox is unchecked.

How should I fix that problem?

Thanks

Vincent Vinny (talk) 08:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for signing your posts on Meta with four tildes, and welcome to Meta. Per Dormancy Policy, wikis with no recent changes edits or log actions in at least 45 days are marked as inactive. At 60 days, the wikis are then marked as closed. In either case, if you are a local  on your wiki, you can go into Special:ManageWiki on your wiki and uncheck in the inactive box. Additionally, you should also make at least one edit or log action as well. If your wiki has a fair number of informational content pages (i.e., recipes) made to be read by real people, then you can apply, at stewards' noticeboard for an exemption to Dormancy Policy. Dmehus (talk) 09:04, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I've just re-read your above post, and you do note that the inactive box is unchecked. Have you tried purging given page(s) where you see the banner by adding  to the end of the URL in address bar? It's possible the page just needs to be purged to clear that banner from displaying. If that doesn't resolve it, I'd suggest e-mailing   as there may be a maintenance script of some sort that needs to be run by system administrators. Dmehus (talk) 09:07, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. I tried the  trick, but to no avail. I will send an email to tech. Thanks Vinny (talk) 13:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I am looking into it now... Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 13:58, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It appears I have now fixed it so it doesnt show the notices anymore, you may have to clear your cache however. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 16:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed! Thanks a lot for your help and . I'm very happy to use Miraheze, with the power of a community. Free and efficient! Vinny (talk) 18:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Request for evaluation of the wiki rules
In order to cover all my bases, I would like to have people associated with Miraheze's moderation/overview to take a look at SocDemWiki:Rules just to see if there is any disagreement or possible improvements. I just want to avoid any trouble that could get my wiki deleted. Godless Raven (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * While I haven't looked at your local wiki's rules, it's excellent that you have established them. As long as your wiki complies with all aspects of Content Policy from a content perspective and your wiki's users comply with, and your local rules don't come into conflict with, Code of Conduct, you should be absolutely fine and need not worry. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 11:04, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi,, I just wanted to be safe. I really appreciate Miraheze and don't want to become persona non-grata. Godless Raven (talk) 15:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox
I have problems using the infobox template, I have followed the instructions only to get the infobox and a displaying link saying Label:Template Other that does not go away. What should I do? Marcdmc (talk) 11:36, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Miraheze, and to Meta. Thank you also for signing your posts on the noticeboards with four tildes . You're off to a great start. Please note that I have just procedurally moved your question from stewards' noticeboard to community noticeboard, where it is now in scope. Someone should be able to answer your question shortly. Dmehus (talk) 13:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Notification of Directors' Meeting, October 23 2020
Good afternoon everyone,

This is a late notification, however, attached is the agenda for the next Directors' meeting taking place tonight at 20:00 UTC. Late suggestions for discussion at the meeting are accepted until an hour before the meeting. Please either suggest them here or email owen@undefinedmiraheze.org. Agenda is at. Owen (talk) 12:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 1. Why is it exclusively available in PDF? That is certainly not the wiki way of running things. If you need PDF for compliance stuff, that's fine, but please consider using the wikitext version for posting on wiki. That's not that hard. Maybe takes few more minutes, but that's negligible. Especially when Miraheze don't have PDF file preview like Wikimedia Commons.
 * 2. Also, please indicate the license of the file, otherwise I will assume it follows the license of the Wiki, which is at this time CC BY SA 4.0 Intl. Thank you. &mdash; revi  17:57, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox country for Dream Fiction Wiki
I couldn't make it myself, can someone help me recreate the country infobox of Dream Fiction Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlegSlaviraheze (talk • contribs) 12:16, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * First, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) . If you find yourself frequently forgetting to sign your posts with four tildes, you can type the topic title for your noticeboard topic and click "add topic," instead of using "edit source," and a preloaded message template including the tildes will be included for you. Regarding setting up infoboxes, there are several types of infoboxes, some complicated ones like English Wikipedia has that have parameters configured for WikiBase, some portable infoboxes like Fandom has, and some basic ones that are just wikitables, right-aligned to the page, and which serve most peoples' needs. For the more complicated needs, you should see this FAQ question. For the portable ones like Fandom has, you should see this extension page, and enable the extension in this ManageWiki page on your wiki. For the most basic infoboxes that should serve most wikis' needs, you should really see 's helpful tutorial. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 12:28, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Renaming and what it's about?
Hello, I would like to request a name change on my crime wiki and it can be about crime and anything. Thank you. Hrvcfr (talk) 18:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC) Hrvcfr (talk) 18:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * While you can rename your wiki in Special:ManageWiki on your wiki, I would strongly advise broadening your crime-focused wiki to include something as broad as anything, as that becomes an unclear and vague wiki description per Content Policy. As well, it sort of feels like a back door way to reposition your existing wiki while you're currently topic banned from requesting wikis on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 19:40, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I successfully changed the name. And will change it on Gazetteer. Hrvcfr (talk) 19:51, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's great. The name change is fine, but I just hope you've not modified your wiki's purpose to be about crime or anything, as that is far too vague and would not be approved by a wiki creator. Wikis' approval and creation are subject to the terms of reference (i.e., their stated purpose and scope) on which they were approved. A wiki operating entirely different from its stated approval could run into issues down the road and potentially face a range of remediation actions by a steward. Dmehus (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Fair use policy
I have a wiki about politics and I want to have articles about political parties. Wikipedia justifies uploading the logos/icons of political parties based on fair use. Could I apply the same reasoning?

Example: Non-free media information and use rationale – non-free logo for Socialist Party (France) Description This is the logo for Socialist Party (France).

Source http://www.parti-socialiste.fr/

Article Socialist Party (France)

Portion used The entire logo is used to convey the meaning intended and avoid tarnishing or misrepresenting the intended image.

Low resolution? This is an SVG vector image of a registered trademark or a copyright-protected logo, seal or computer icon. This image should not be rendered any larger than is required for the purposes of identification and/or critical commentary. The default rendering of this image is of a size and resolution sufficient to maintain the quality intended by the company or organization, without being unnecessarily high resolution.

Purpose of use The image is used to identify the organization Socialist Party (France), a subject of public interest. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the organization, assure the readers that they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the organization, and illustrate the organization's intended branding message in a way that words alone could not convey.

Replaceable? Because it is a non-free logo, there is almost certainly no free representation. Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, would tarnish or misrepresent its image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary.

Other information Use of the logo in the article complies with Wikipedia non-free content policy, logo guidelines, and fair use under United States copyright law as described above. Godless Raven (talk) 11:32, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * LGTM&mdash;perfect, or nearly perfect, in fact. I would just add a couple points, namely that many logos may not be eligible for copyright protections if they are too simplistic, though I'm not certain under which countries' copyright law that criterion applies. Also, many, or most, political parties already license their logos to media organizations and other research-based uses (of which your wiki would be the latter) to use their logos per their logo use policies. In terms of a fair use policy, this looks fine to me. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

What happened to the Navboxes?
Ever since that MediaWiki update last night, the collapse theatre on navboxes had stopped working - by that I mean the button has disappeared altogether. (Here’s an example: ) Is there a way it can be fixed? - ManiacACS (talk) 06:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, the sidebar and tab color above the pages is now back to the default color. --Trevor807 (talk) 11:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help with a script on my wiki
I attempt to do a script to easily report vandals on my new wiki but it does not work. My script i tried to install is from the Runescape wiki, and slightly modified it to match my pages. Can someone help me with the script? (Cannot post the link to my wiki because the ****ing captcha does not load) Wikieditor668 (talk) 11:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "(Cannot post the link to my wiki because the ****ing captcha does not load)" lol 2A00:7142:4A:B749:D89C:1B40:7BA2:9390 15:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Captchas won't load
"Your edit includes new external links. To protect the wiki against automated spam, we kindly ask you to solve the following CAPTCHA:"

Yeah, but there's literally no captcha whenever I hit submit, this text pops up, but not the captcha.

This website is defective lmao. 2A00:7142:4A:B749:D89C:1B40:7BA2:9390 15:47, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * hello this issue was already resolved it should work now. Cocopuff2018 (talk) 13:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Fix Template Loops
Hey, Can any of you can fix those template loops on Companyball Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Firstly, to your question, template loops are usually one of the more basic template errors to resolve, and are typically caused by a given page or template calling the same template or page at the current page title, or by a template or page that is called by one of the templates or pages transcluded on that page. Hope that helps.
 * Secondly, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) . Dmehus (talk) 13:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Already did that, didn't work, Fix this now plz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I already try it and it didn't work for me, Plz fix it now.
 * Link TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk) 14:43, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Please keep in mind we're all volunteers here, and here to help. A member of the community should be able to assist you within the next day or two. For faster service, you can ask specific questions in a calm and friendly manner on Discord, which I would encourage you to join. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems that mh:companyballwiki:Template:T is causing the template loops. The source code of that template seems to be its documentation rather than the actual template, so I'm guessing this was a copy-paste mistake. K599 (talk) 20:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So how do i fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Putting Infobox on right
Can somebody put the infobox from Companyball Wiki on the right for me? I tried everything but nothing works, so can somebody do this for me? TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk) 00:00, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Should be done. Naleksuh (talk) 00:03, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox Issues
Hello, I have been trying for days now to move an infobox on the right, but I can't do it at all. I want this infobox template on this page https://nsc.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Contest to match the infobox on this page https://msc.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Contest. I have implanted the same code but the box is bigger and also on the left. Can you please help me with this? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CamDaNer (talk • contribs) 13:08, 30 October 2020‎ (UTC)
 * The template calls for an Infobox styling that doesn't exist in your wikis code pages. To test it out, I set up the style used by Wikipedia on my userpage on the wiki and it looks perfect now. Simply copy/paste that code in your Common.css, or Vector.css if you want it exclusive for one skin (each skin has their own special .css page). Hope this helps!-Amelia (talk) 19:01, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

What are the boundaries for NSFW content?
Say, if I was to make a wiki that may contain NSFW content (e.g., nudity (drawing or not), sexual content, explicit language, inappropriate writing, etc.), what are the stuff that is allowed or not allowed? What are the limits? Thank u, next, Eiji (talk) 16:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the question. With regard to that type of NSFW content (nudity, sexual content, and explicit language), it's all acceptable, provided it's legal in the United Kingdom, and there are no limits, though we do strongly recommend you put in place NSFW content advisories on your main page, community portal, and main policy pages. With regard to "inappropriate writing," that's vague and it's hard to say. As long as it's permitted by Content Policy and you don't violate the Code of Conduct directing it towards users, you should be fine. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 20:00, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * See also Talk:Terms of Use#About disturbing content, but it's 2018 content so things might be different now. &mdash; revi  20:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Notably, jurisdictions are now UK. &mdash; revi  20:02, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So if I post a rule 34 drawing (fully nude) on this website, as long as I add a warning for NSFW content, it's still acceptable? Thank u, next, Eiji (talk) 18:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's perfectly acceptable. Dmehus (talk) 18:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Thank u, next, Eiji (talk) 19:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Harry Potter Wiki
Can the people consider opening a wiki for Harry Potter wiki? The fandom site is toxic and people dislike the existing admins. 74.105.199.98 14:56, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 74.105.199.98, thank you for your question, and welcome both to Miraheze and Meta. Indeed, you can create an account, login, and request a wiki describing your wiki's topic and purpose in 1-2 sentences, delineating any scope to it as well and in compliance with Content Policy. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and made a harry potter wiki I will help with it once it gets approved if you wish to be admin and create I would be more then happy to give you it once you make an account I am interested in harry potter as well and look forward to making this wiki thrive and grow Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I personally do not think this was necessary, as you have now preempted a potential new Miraheze user from requesting this wiki. I've procedurally declined it. If they don't request it within two days, you may resubmit the wiki request, and create it yourself. Dmehus (talk) 15:47, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

"Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server: (curl error: 52) Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)"
I recently got this error while writing a page on Awful Movies Wiki. Anyone else got this error today? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IvanTheGreat (talk • contribs) 16:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * This is possibly more than one issue, which I'm currently tracking. However, if you go into your web browser's cookies and delete all cookies for, the issue will resolve itself. If the issue continuously keeps reoccurring more than once every month or so, then do re-report this issue on Phabricator. As I say, though, near-term, clearing your cookies should resolve this.
 * Also, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .), as opposed to manually typing your signature as that doesn't work for the bot. Dmehus (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed, thank you. IvanTheGreat (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Great to hear. ✅. Dmehus (talk) 16:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

EasyTimeline 1.90
Hi, I would like to either propose or ask how to add EasyTimeline 1.90 to a wiki. I am wishing to add it to a wiki that I am an administrator in. I though am not very familiar with Miraheze software and how to add that piece of software to the wiki I am in. If it is not able to be added then I would suggest that it would be added. Summi Imperatoris (talk) 17:22, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your question, and welcome to Meta. It looks like this extension isn't available in Special:ManageWiki/extensions; however, you can suggest it on Phabricator. Login with your Miraheze/MediaWiki login, then use the "feature request" task form. All non-Wikimedia extensions will undergo a security review, mainly to ensure there is no problematic code, possibility of SQL injections, and ensure the extensions are adequately maintained. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 17:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus Thank you! I had no idea that that part had existed to be able to request such. The reason I asked is because I am moving some pages from a wiki that does use EasyTimeline 1.90 and so it glitched out. Summi Imperatoris (talk) 17:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Sounds reasonable. Be sure to include that in your request rationale in your Phabricator request. Also, note that you may find the ping template easier than using the @ and a standard wikilink. Dmehus (talk) 17:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Summi Imperatoris EasyTimeline actually is available in Special:ManageWiki/extensions, it's just labelled as "Timeline". K599 (talk) 19:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

(Again) Cite feature under visual editor
I have raised this question before, but I got no solution. I have added a visual editor and citoid extensions, but when I try the "cite feature" I do not know how to enable other formats aside from "basic". I would like a "books" and "journals" templates, or better yet, a system like en:Wikipedia where I just throw a link around and it tries to automatically fill and matches it to the appropriate template. I have copied all the modules and templates I could think of from en wiki, but I am unable to copy this one:. When I save that one I get Error: Lua error at line 2: unexpected symbol near '/'. I seriously want to use my wiki more frequently, but not being able to solve this wards me off. MaGoV (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC) MaGoV (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok I think I solved it, I had to use Special:Import instead. I now uploaded all modules and templates using that but still cite button does not show anything else aside from "Basic".
 * Solved, after uploading everything cited here, it worked. MaGoV (talk) 18:54, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I feel like quitting Miraheze
Due to the reception wikis ruining this website's reputation. It also caused the website to be filled with a lot a user hate pages. IvanTheGreat (talk) 14:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Instead of rushing to create posts that contain only a single sentence or two, why don't you compose a thorough and exhaustive report about one or more problematic Reception wikis? Note that the more thorough and exhaustive your reports are, the more likely it is to be taken seriously by stewards, particularly if it can be seen that a wiki has systemic Content Policy violations or its users are egregiously and repeatedly violating the Code of Conduct despite warnings to stop. In addition, I would also suggest finding a non-Reception wiki in which you can contribute to. Dmehus (talk) 15:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * There isn't wikis I can edit on, besides Fandom is better anyways IvanTheGreat (talk) 15:58, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I would disagree with that. Have you searched Special:WikiDiscover? It seems to me you tend to gravitate yourself to the Reception wikis. If you'd broaden your horizons, or start your own wiki, taking care to define a clear purpose, scope, and topic for your wiki, you could edit your wiki in relative peace and solitude. However, peace and solitude may not be what you're after, so I wish you all the best at Fandom. Dmehus (talk) 16:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

I need contributors on my wiki!
I need contributors on my wiki, https://aboutpcs.miraheze.org/wiki/. The wiki is about PCs and I need more templates, userboxes, styling, some scripts/gadgets, and some articles. Please ask on my talk page there if you want admin/bureaucrat permission. Wikieditor668 (talk) 18:31, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Please use Gazetteer of wikis for this Naleksuh (talk) 18:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I gave permission to Wikieditor668 to post one thread on community noticeboard to invite contributors and volunteers to his wiki, clearly stating what sort of work he needs assistance with. This is part of the scope of community noticeboard. That's not to say he can start more than one thread, or even that it is likely to bring contributors. As I also stated, writing good, helpful content will bring community and contributors/volunteers in time. But, if he insisted on creating one thread, it's no issue. It's somewhere between likely useless at best and harmless at worst. Potentially, someone may be inspired to also write on this topic, though I do believe that, ultimately, one has to write engaging, informative content and have an aesthetically appealing design to one's wiki. Dmehus (talk) 19:20, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, you can borrow templates from my wiki if you need to. Here's an example of a userbox and here's our own infobox. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 16:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Internal Error
I'm back. Altcyclopedia (altcyclopedia.miraheze.org), my work of art, is having trouble once again. When I've try and load pages lately, I keep getting abrupt errors instead (example: [988d550ea8bb7ef9eab631f3] 2020-11-09 20:54:13: Fatal exception of type "Error"), and I've also ended up with CSS-less layouts. I don't have a  that is said to resolve the problem, so how do I fix it? - ManiacACS (talk) 21:01, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've reported this issue to, two of our system administrators. Either of them should be able to trace this issue for you, but we probably will want to create a Phabricator ticket for this. Dmehus (talk) 21:11, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Phabricator ticket #T6423 has been created for this request. Please sign-in with your Miraheze MediaWiki login, and, with the power of OAuth authentication, a Phabricator account will be created for you. There, you can provide more details on this error. Dmehus (talk) 21:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Just did. I've sent some screenshots to aid you in fixing the bug. ManiacACS (talk) 21:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This was ✅ by, who deployed the necessary fix(es). For further details, for anyone following this thread, please see the Phabricator ticket. Dmehus (talk) 05:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Blocked for unknown reason.
Your username or IP address has been blocked. The block was made by ‪Zeephare‬. The reason given is Unacceptable username. * Start of block: 17:09, 30 October 2020 * Expiration of block: infinite * Intended blockee: ‪Hrvcfr‬ You can contact ‪Zeephare‬ or another administrator to discuss the block. You can use the "Email this user" feature if a valid email address is specified in your preferences and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is [REDACTED], and the block ID is #483. Please include all above details in any queries you make. Hrvcfr (talk) 13:14, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Firstly, as Meta patroller has already pointed out, please make sure you redact any personally identifying technical details, such as your IP address, when posting publicly any error messages you receive. Secondly, normally, community noticeboard wouldn't be used to discuss local blocks on Miraheze community wikis; however, as far as I can tell, you've made only one (1) contribution (which has been deleted, so it may have been your user or user talk page) to Awesome Games Wiki and zero (0) contributions to Crappy Games Wiki, where you were blocked first. It seems to me the Awesome Games Wiki could've been a copycat block. Your username certainly doesn't violate our global Username Policy in any way, and I'm not aware of any local username policies on those wikis, so I'm going to ping  to this thread and advocate for clemency for you in this case that would result in you being (hopefully) unblocked, provided you, of course, agree to follow their local rules and guidelines in your future contributions and to discussing with them where you are unsure. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 15:58, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I will unblock him right away. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 16:01, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * He's now ✅ as it's not a username policy violation. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 16:04, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your quick consideration of this for . When I saw that block originally, I figured you guys must've been thinking it was the random characters of a spambot or something, so this really does seem like an innocent mistake. I do strongly recommend you reach out to DarkMatterMan4500 on his local user talk page on each of those wikis so he can point you to any style guidelines they have for creating articles on those wikis, so your edits don't end up being reverted. Dmehus (talk) 16:09, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, it seemed to be the case. We've dealt with spam-bots before on our wikis. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 01:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Reviving a Dead Fandom Community
Back in July of yesteryear a rather medium-sized community on Fandom adapted from the brainchild of a FA (fat admirer) DeviantArt user named Fan2000 shut down after nine years on the server. The community’s name was FATWORLD and its focus was on female celebrities photoshopped to make them look immensely overweight.

If I recall correctly, there were six categories or weight classes if you want to be fancy consisting of Svelte, Below Average, Average, Above Average, Extraordinary, and Super Sized. The reason it was closed because it was somewhat fetishy. Is this the right place to revive it?

And also I never heard of this very wiki until the new decade if it were not for a quick Google search on one of Wolf Tracer’s two known productions, which is severely obsolete on first generation tablet byproducts. Lights off, 67.81.161.226 23:34, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * 67.81.161.226 That sounds reasonable, provided your wiki will be not be shaming real people for their body types, though it doesn't sound like that will be the case. As long as you articulate a clear purpose, topic(s), and scope for your wiki, usually in approximately two to three complete sentences, and it complies with Content Policy, you can request a wiki. To do that, though, you must first create an account and login, taking care to read user accounts policy. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:47, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Twinkle added
Hi everyone. Twinkle has now been re-enabled after being disabled some months ago. You can use it to revert edits, find diffs, and request deletion. I've quiokly de-Wikipedia-ified it to get it ready for immediate use, but will fine-tune it more over time. You can enable it from Special:Preferences in the "gadgets" section. Let me know any issues! Naleksuh (talk) 07:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Last time I remembered, it takes 10 days for it to be active if you were more active on this wiki. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 13:27, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I got a error with Twinkle with the Vector skin ([[Media:Error with Twinkle.png|see this image]]), can you take a look please ? and thanks for re-enabled Twinkle HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 15:05, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by it taking 10 days? It is active right now. Naleksuh (talk) 19:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, fixed. Naleksuh (talk) 19:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Uh, in Request for permissions I can't add anything because the page is protected? What happened?
SoyokoAnis (talk) 12:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. You are able to consult the reasoning behind a page protection by going to "View History" and then right under the title of the page accessing "View logs for this page"; in this case, a decision to protect was made months ago due to many unexperienced users attempting to requests rights that were not appropriate for them. I do agree that the measure is perhaps too strict considering that it also denies regular users the possibility to vote. With that being said, was it your intention to request a right? If so, it's probably best that you do wait until you've been here a bit more and become autoconfirmed before requesting an advanced right. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm new to wiki editing and I'm confused, help?
I'm trying to set up a private wiki for a small roleplaying/worldbuilding/writing group, but I don't really know how to set up templates and other fancy things. I've been struggling with it and even trying to use a FANDOM for testing and setting things up, but things don't copy over cleanly and everything seems very complicated. I'd just use FANDOM but I wanted this to be private, and FANDOM's leadership and corporate blah blah blah honestly wigs me right out. But everything's set up automatically for you there... Is there a quick start guide or something someone can direct me to? I'm trying to set up basic stuff like stub templates and...just general stuff I guess, and I'm honestly feeling pretty stupid. I've tried reading documentation and looking at source code for how others have done it and ???? I'm very lost and overwhelmed. I'm sorry, thank you for reading! Verne (talk) 18:05, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * First, welcome to Miraheze and to Meta. Second, I would start with FAQ and Help center. Community noticeboard is for very specific, clearly articulated technical support questions regarding your wiki. For these sort of things, I recommend you join us on Discord, verify your wiki account by typing   in any channel once you join our Discord server, and then ask your clear and specific questions. Dmehus (talk) 18:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, my apologies! I'll join the Discord, then, thank you! Verne (talk) 18:13, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries. Community noticeboard is fine for clearly articulated, specific technical problems on your wiki and general support questions, but without a clear question, it's best to obtain one-on-one help on Discord or IRC, and we can help you formulate the best question(s) for you. ✅. Dmehus (talk) 18:19, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Vector tab styling gone after update
Hello! I'm an admin on the My Little Pony wiki, and after the 1.35 update, our vector tab stylings stopped working, as well with some less jarring h2 underlining border stuff, so I wanted to know if anyone else knew what to do? I downloaded the most recent version of Vector and used Notepad++ to look up classes in its files, and I think the issue is the vector tabs got switched to .less format which isn't affected by .css (AFAIK, not a code monkey). I tried creating a Vector.less page and imported it via my own personal .css page, but that didn't work. Anyone have any solutions? --Amelia (talk) 19:10, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, I see no one with expertise on the matter has yet offered any possible solutions, so I am going to ping two of our subject matter experts on matters concerning CSS and skins,, to this thread, and have them take a look. Thanks again. :) Dmehus (talk) 14:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus I think this was resolved in T6365. K599 (talk) 16:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, ✅. Yeah, it does appear to be resolved. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

the Visit Speed of Miraheze
I have spoken to RhinosF1 on Nov.1 about that. And he told me that it seemed to be a restriction.

I think it might be about CIIE from Oct.29 to Nov.10. But untill now, the speed is still slow.

Lots of users of my wiki complain that to me. I seem to be made to change a wiki farm to get faster speed.

--开炸弹车 (talk) 05:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * If this refers to China, we have no control over the issues unfortunately. We are aware of reports of Miraheze being inaccessible in China. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:43, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Daytime(from UTC 22:00 to UTC 8:00) is OK, but at night(from UTC 8:00 untill go to bed),the speed is so slow. The speed of them is a little different. I donnot think that is about restrictions. --开炸弹车 (talk) 13:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Can someone import the entire Harry Potter Wiki to miraheze
Hello!

I am not an admin on the fandoms site, but a disgrunted user who represent a suite of people of who have been burned, and crucified by the community over there. Mistreatment, lack of proper respect by Fandom staff, the forced and botched UCP upgrade, and just not listening to the users. Thus, a set of us are dedicated to migrating the site out of there. Thus I am requesting helping migrating the content over to Miraheze. Especially needed are the images. Thank you. Losira (talk) 17:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, welcome to Miraheze. I believe the FAQ should help you. R4356th (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello and thank you for the welcome. I read it and I am working on it. However, it does not work on images, so I am wondering if the system admins can help with that aspect. Losira (talk) 17:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This has been answered here. Further replies should occur in that thread. Dmehus (talk) 18:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Interwiki request for arkadditions.miraheze.org
On arkadditions.miraheze.org, please add ark.gamepedia.com to the interwiki table under name "ark". Alex4401 (talk) 17:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This is ✅. Please ping me know if you need anything further. Dmehus (talk) 18:20, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Alex4401 (talk) 18:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, and you're most welcome. Dmehus (talk) 18:23, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Wiki labeled as inactive when it's active?

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Please follow Phabricator ticket #T6403. To report related issues with your wiki, please e-mail, and system administrators will add your wiki to those affected, and ensure it is corrected. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Not a big deal since I was able to resolve this on my own but it confused me. My wiki, the MLP wiki was labeled as inactive even though we've been very active these past few days. Anyone know what caused that? Amelia (talk) 13:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


 * It's due to a glitch. The staff is aware of this issue and is currently investigating it. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 13:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * We can try to not make 3000 discussion and all go to Stewards' noticeboard please, thanks ! :) HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 13:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm bureaucrat of Giantess Wiki and my wiki got the same message, despite my wiki is updated every almost day. Aurumargelium (talk) 13:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

Star wars
I can't access it, and url says not found. Thanks. Hrvcfr (talk) 22:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Assuming you mean Star Wars Wiki, yes, it's a recently approved wiki, but has yet to be created by either  or  . You can ping me or  once if it's still not created in 60 minutes from the timestamp of this reply. Dmehus (talk) 22:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ty. Working now. Hrvcfr (talk) 22:43, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Issues with collapsible lists
Ever since the update, collapsible lists (Template:Collapsible list) no longer work. I have tried importing the template from the template.miraheze.org wiki and even that does not solve the issue. OIMGov (talk) 12:43, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. I'm really sorry for the late answer, could you please link us to a page where it's not working? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:24, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

DB
Hello.

I want to move wiki, miraheze server to own server.

So, can I download or get wiki's database?

Thanks. Gomdoli (talk) 06:28, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * While we're sorry to see you leave in terms of your wiki, you can download a complete dump of your wiki's public XML (does not include suppressed revisions, private user data, non-public IP data, and things like that) and an archive of all your images uploaded to your wiki. You can do this in Special:DataDump. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:39, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I asked Discord server, I found; Thanks. Gomdoli (talk) 13:12, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Reduced Activity
Hello everyone,

I wanted to let the community know that my activity will be greatly reduced at the moment following a possible case of Covid-19 and the impact it has had on me. I hope to editing back at full capacity once myself and everyone at home are feeling better.

Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  10:04, 22 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I hope you get well soon. R4356th (talk) 14:24, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:56, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll message you privately, but if you've been affected by COVID-19 as well, I echo those sentiments expressed by R4356th completely. Also, regarding your user talk page, if you'd like, I'd be happy to redirect it to my user talk page, rather than your user page, as the most active user on Meta Wiki, so users can still ask any questions. Dmehus (talk) 14:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks and you can always be free to wiki gnome around my user and user talk pages. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:58, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

About deleting user groups
I want to delete some user groups, what should I do?--虎之介 (talk) 02:32, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * First, thank you for your question, which I've moved procedurally from stewards' noticeboard to here, where it is now in scope. Second, to answer your question, please go into Special:ManageWiki/permissions (on your wiki), select the group you wish to delete, unselect all assigned user rights, then proceed to the "submit" tab. Check the box that says "delete this group," and enter an optional log summary for your wiki's ManageWiki log that states what you're doing and why, mainly for audit purposes. After you hit submit, it will be deleted. Repeat the process for any other group(s) you wish to delete. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 02:45, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Unsure about user merge policies
... also because I didn't find any. Long story short: when I moved "my" wiki from Fandom to Miraheze I was told users could get back their accounts just by creating a new one and them merging it with the old one. In fact that's how it worked until recently, when my request to merge users wasn't really answered, and now I don't know what to tell users who are still waiting to get their accounts back. So, what changed? How does it work now? --Wedhro (talk) 18:49, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It wasn't really answered because it's generally really done, most likely, and also because we don't have any formal policies on the matter. It isn't done, mainly for technical reasons, as the process to merge two user accounts into one is a time-consuming and painstaking process, requiring the steward to locally merge each attached wiki account. This is because there's an upstream Wikimedia task related to globally merging user accounts not being "scalable" that is stalled and unlikely to proceed. Your best bet is to advise users to disclose their alternate accounts on their global user page and not access wikis where locally blocked with their alternate accounts, in compliance with user accounts policy. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 19:02, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry but it doesn't. One of the biggest fears of leaving Fandom for Miraheze was losing all edits and people identities in general, but we were assured there was a way to prevent that. I didn't know it was hard to implement but still, without that we might have chosen a different host. It's not trivial as it might seem. I'm not sure what "disclose their alternate accounts" means because they can't access the account they made while on Fandom, only the temporary ones they were told to create in order to proceed with the merge, as per instruction received by... maybe Void, not sure about that. For example, user "Wedhro" from Fandom wants to get back its account here on Miraheze, and I tell him to create user "Wedhro temp" or something; now what?	--Wedhro (talk) 19:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm confused why your Fandom accounts would come into the picture on Miraheze. Did you, and others, not create the same username on Miraheze? If so, then you can request a password reset on those account(s), and use them. If not and someone else registered them, we have had one or two username usurpation cases, and generally this involves posting a notice on the requested username's user talk page, waiting thirty (30) calendar days, and if no objection is received and the user is largely inactive, then usurpation may be granted and the user renamed, allowing that username to be reregistered again. Alternatively, while not encouraged, you could also manually edit the XML file of your wiki(s) to update to your Miraheze username, which should provide proper attribution. System administrators could then reimport it onto your wiki. Dmehus (talk) 19:47, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * One big detail I didn't mention: we didn't start a new wiki, we imported one. A big one, with thousand of users. When the wiki was imported here users were also imported, but obviously not their passwords. The result is people now can't sign in with their original usernames because they already exist (that includes potential usurpers: nobody can claim those accounts). We need a quick solution for that because waiting for 30 days for a maybe will just discourage people from coming back, and we already lost a big chunk of the user base coming here after being assured getting back accounts wouldn't have been an issue. It's a huge, huge bummer. Isn't there a quick way to make old, inactive accounts (we're talking about 2+ years of inactivity here) available again? Wedhro (talk) 20:03, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Categories out of sync
Hello! Due to some issues lately involving the Nuke extension command, at least I believe that to be the culprit, one of our categories on the MLP wiki has went out of sync. It displays the pages in the category at over 1,104 but according t AWB, the actual count is only 611. The count does go up and down depending on if pages are deleted or created, but is still about 500 more then what it should be. Anyone know how to fix this?--Amelia (talk) 23:51, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've ran a maintenance script that recounts the number of pages in a category, and this has now been ✅. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:06, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks a bunch!--Amelia (talk) 15:24, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Extension
Hello?

I want to make a request form, like "Special:RequestWiki", so I need to install the extension.

So I have a question.

What is that extension name?

Thanks, Gomdoli (talk) 07:32, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * https://github.com/miraheze/IncidentReporting This? Gomdoli (talk) 07:39, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * RequestWiki is part of CreateWiki. IncidentReporting is a separate extension, but you could possibly use some of that code for the purposes of developing a new extension, sure, I don't see why not. Dmehus (talk) 07:45, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reply. I understand. (But I can't develop another extension. Because I don't know how to.) Gomdoli (talk) 08:04, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

weird skin


So I was making some edits and then the wiki got a weird skin. Why is it not the mobile skin?

It also happened on meta wiki. Oof •• Fair0002 • Bureaucrat and Administrator of Crazybloxian Empire Wiki 03:22, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Me too. Not active minerva skin now. Gomdoli (talk) 05:27, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I apologize for the issue. It has now been solved. See T6512 05:34, 28 November 2020 (UTC) ］ |

What do I add to the "Interwiki prefix"?
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I am trying to move my Fandom wikia over to here on Miraheze. I have the .xml file, but as I was uploading, it asked for an "Interwiki prefix" I looked high and low for what to place in the box and subsequently began adding all sorts of recommended words, phrases, and codes; but nothing seems to be working and it only gives me the message "Import failed: Expected tag, got". Is there something I am doing wrong? What should I be putting in there in order to to move my Fandom wikia over to here on Miraheze??? HarmonTower805 (talk) 23:59, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for question, which I have procedurally moved from stewards' noticeboard to community noticeboard, where it is now notionally more in scope. In this case, the Special:Import page is looking for the interwiki table prefix that exists, either from the global interwiki table on Meta or any local interwiki table prefixes you've requested. You just need to make sure it matches exactly. So for Fandom, it would be . This is for file upload XML imports, though. For transwiki imports, there is also a Phabricator task that is required to add the prefix to your wiki's   variable, but that's not required in this case. If your wiki has a lot of pages and revisions, though, you should file a Phabricator task and have system administrators do the import for you, as you will invariably time out. Dmehus (talk) 01:12, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The XML file you're importing is broken. Dmehus is correct in that you should use that Interwiki code but the error has nothing to with Interwiki codes. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:46, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Add a link to Donate in the footer of all wikis
Currently, there is no indication to readers of wikis that they can donate to Miraheze. I think it would help if a link to Donate is added to the footer of all wikis, to get people aware that they can donate and help Miraheze with funds. K599 (talk) 22:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I personally wouldn't mind this, and would suggest a little PayPal donation graphic be inserted to the immediate right of the Miraheze donation graphic. I think an image, rather than a text link, would be better. We could probably implement this fairly non-controversially without a full proposal or anything, and just link to this discussion in the GitHub pull request. Dmehus (talk) 22:31, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus Personally, I'd prefer just a text link, as I feel like some people might find a graphic to be too distracting. In addition, donations can be done through either PayPal or GitHub sponsors, so I don't think a graphic representing only one of those would work. K599 (talk) 22:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That's true that donations can be made through GitHub sponsors, though commonly PayPal does provide a donation graphic that is used to link to an organization's donation page that includes PayPal as only one of several donation options. Also, while MirahezeMagic interface messages control the footer links, I'm not sure how easy it is to add an additional link to that, so it's possible a footer icon may be the easier option (though we don't have to necessarily use a PayPal graphic). At the same time, I feel like a text link would be easily lost and less helpful than originally envisioned. And, as always, wikis would have the option of requesting the donation graphic be removed from their footer icons (some wikis I've noticed don't even display the Miraheze icon, which, to be honest, I don't quite get). If my wiki was hosted for free by Miraheze, I would proudly display the Miraheze graphic. Dmehus (talk) 22:46, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus I'm kind of unsure about adding another footer icon, since four icons kind of feels like a lot to me. Also, a text link wouldn't really be hard from what I know, it can just be added with this hook, which is also how the "Terms of Use" link is added. K599 (talk) 22:59, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess that's true. I'm not sure how it effective it may end up being, but on the other hand, a text link is even less potentially controversial, no discussion at all is likely needed, so the fact we have this discussion with you and I both supporting it is all that much better. Plus, I believe we're planning a fundraiser in the new year, which may involve a central notice banner for a short period, so those efforts combined should be helpful. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright, phabricator task has been created. K599 (talk) 20:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Global.js seems not to include cross wiki content
I want to add a to navigation bar on all wikis via global.js and global.css. The javascript adds content from my navigation bar definition. The whole thing works fine locally, but it seems the the content is not accessed on other wikis, maybe my javascript has a flaw (I am not very familiar with javascript), can anyone help me out? Thank you in advance, greetings Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 15:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Not sure if this is exactly what the problem is, but it does seem that the script will only run on any wiki except yazzwiki, klimarealistenwiki, lilypondwiki, meingartenwiki, regionalbahnstattbuswiki, and metawiki. If that is intended, then I'd probably need an example of a wiki where it works and a wiki where it doesn't in order to figure out what is wrong with it. -- Void  Whispers 16:56, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you for your answer. What you describe is intended because on the wikis you name there are already navbars implemented or intended, therefore the global navbar should not come into effect on these wikis. The global navbar does not work on any miraheze wiki, although I can see that the global.css is effective because of the changing of the colors and positioning of several elements. (Is it possible that global.css overrules local vector.css? I have solved this problem by changing class names.) The local navbars are working fine as you can check out on Lilypond wiki, global does not work at all. Either there is a flaw in my javascript code or adding cross wiki content is not allowed (although global.js does not know anything about wiki). The effect is exactly the same as the navbar-code is not found (I had this effect already in my wiki when I implemented the feature), greetings LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 17:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have found a workaround, added the HTML-Code to the global.js greetings LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 17:49, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I had started to look into it, and discovered that we don't seem to allow html documents to be loaded from other domains. Therefore, the solution you wound up going for was the one I would have recommended, and is probably one of the only valid solutions. -- Void  Whispers 21:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a good thing for safety, but should not be there an exemption for other Miraheze subdomains? Anyway, I like my solution better now. I discovered the navbar in the Snap! Wiki where I found the workaround in an older version of the javascript. I guess the admin changed the script because the maintenance of the text string in the javascript is difficult. I found a solution for that, too (backslashes at the end of the line) LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 04:02, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Request for local interwiki administrator of Kubu Wiki
Hi, I held an election on my wiki. As I expected nobody but me voted, in the meantime I have made more than 500 edits, too. Pls grant me the local interwiki admin rights, thank you, greetings, Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 04:09, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This would actually go to stewards' noticeboard, but yes, indeed, a steward should assess your request in the next couple of days. Dmehus (talk) 04:45, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

MediaWiki Version 1.35 is displaying ogg files differently
Hi, I am using extension TimedMediaHandler for displaying ogg files in my Wiki and was perfectly satisfied with the way it was working. With the new MediaWiki version 1.35 things have changed. When I click on the play button a new window pops and the rest of the window is locked check out here. Before the upgrade I could even play more than one ogg files in one window simultaneously. Is this a bug or a feature, can I change this behaviour? Thank you for your support Lily (Manuela) (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 09:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisting until a system administrator has had a chance to review this. Dmehus (talk) 00:58, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisting until a system administrator has had a chance to review this, and pinging to this thread (those that I previously discussed this with on Discord or IRC). Dmehus (talk) 15:01, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Add fiwiki interwiki to Paikallihistoriawiki
Can you please enable fiwiki interwiki for Paikallishistoriawiki. Susannaanas (talk) 10:48, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do here with this request. I assume you maybe want  added as a local interwiki table prefix added for , but if that's the case, I don't know the URL and whether you require either of the forward or transclude flags. Can you clarify your request a bit further? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 15:36, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry I am trying to find out where and how to proceed at the same time. Yes, I would like to have fiwiki added as a local interwiki table prefix for paikallishistoriawiki. I want to enable scary transclusion. The urls are https://paikallishistoriawiki.miraheze.org/ and https://fi.wikipedia.org/. Thank you for your assistance! – Susannaanas (talk) 17:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, this can be done, yeah, I can either (a) enable transclusion for the  prefix and add an   interlanguage prefix you can use together with the former or (b) create a separate interwiki prefix (i.e.,  ) and enable transclusion. Have you already enabled scary transclusion in ManageWiki on your wiki? Dmehus (talk) 18:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have enabled and tested scary transclusion with English Wikipedia and it works. I think w with fi would be ideal, and will allow expanding to other language Wikipedias. Susannaanas (talk) 18:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good. This is ✅. I've never used scary transclusion with an interlanguage prefix, but your local interwiki table, interlanguage prefixes section, does still show the forward and transclusion flag options, so it should. I would image it's formatted using . Remember, though, if transcluding templates with parameters, you will need to use  .  may be able to help you with scary transclusion of templates as she is quite adept with that. Dmehus (talk) 21:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, this is all very experimental! - Susannaanas (talk) 06:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, and yeah, scary transclusion is definitely a beta feature (probably will be for quite a long time), so there will usually be unexpected results. Nevertheless, if you ever need any more interlanguage, or interwiki, prefixes added, you can look me up at  on your wiki, and either message me on my local user talk page on your wiki or my user talk page here on Meta, and I'll be happy to help you out. Dmehus (talk) 06:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will appreciate that! Susannaanas (talk) 07:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I am happy to help, you can translate my documentation with google if you like, this one is mostly in English. If you have any questions feel free to ask on my discussion page, ping me with  , greetings LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 20:31, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I will go on and test and see where I get into trouble :-) Cheers, Susannaanas (talk) 21:38, 4 December 2020 (UTC)