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Worldbuilding wiki set after a vampire outbreak seeks volunteers to write lore
Hey there my name is Stevie and I'm the organizer of Tarel worldbuilding project. I am seeking writers for my wiki here: https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page to write lore on vampire clans and places. We are building a wonderfully detailed world with highly detailed nations each with their own story. I have been working on this project with some contributors for the past 4 years and we have been have a blast expressing ourselves in this world.

If you want to take part, please contact me on my talk page here: https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:TheBurningPrincess to take part in my world.

Thank you for your time.

TheBurningPrincess (talk) 10:27, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Importing Vietnamese's Wikipedia protection labels
I'm going to import the protection icons from Vietnamese's Wikipedia, but only some commons kind of lock (semi, full, extended, interface, create, move and cascade). Could you list for me things need to import and things need to change before implement that? Thanks. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I would recommend using the interwiki prefix for Vietnamese Wikipedia from your wiki's interwiki table, which includes the global prefixes, and, optionally, assigning edits locally where the same user account exists. Note that you may also want to import only revision from each template, or import each required module and template individually so you don't time out. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 12:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * After doing as you said, plus importing more missing modules and templates, I has added the Lock template to my semi-protected page since it did not embed the template but look likes it still keep saying "This page is protected" - not an thing that it suppose to be. So that's mean I need to adjust few things in the Protection banner's config page, did I need to? Song Ngư MGR (talk) 18:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the message, I figured out the working mechanism of the module and the template. Anyway thanks for helping me. -- Song Ngư MGR (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Good morning
How's everyone doing?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 15:02, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Good. — Mario Mario  456  04:45, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Cool. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 14:39, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm doing alright, thanks. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 16:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

User merge request on Synth DIY Wiki
On Synth DIY Wiki please can users Xyzzy, Xyzzp, Xyzzr, Xyzzx be merged into user Plugh they're all user accounts that have been used to check non-admin usability. Rob Kam (talk) 12:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Firstly, this is a Steward request, so should be placed at stewards' noticeboard. Secondly, unfortunately, due to the CentralAuth extension to which Miraheze uses, it's simply not scalable to merge every likely spam only account, due to the number of wikis each account is attached to. Finally, though likely related accounts, we can't be certain of that, either. So, I'm going to have to mark this as ❌, unfortunately. Dmehus (talk) 12:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Preview
How do I add page previews when hovering over a link? This is what I mean: InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Go to your ManageWiki's extension settings and enable PageImage (API) and TextExtracts (Other) then SAVE for the first step. After that, go to Other agian and you should found Popups is enabled for you to activate. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Infobox titles not formatting
Suddenly for the past few days the text in the Infobox template have stopped formatting properly. I've looked at the Module:Infobox but can't see anything different with it, and haven't made any recent changes to stylesheets etc. Not a cookies issue or browser issue. Any ideas on why this is happening? Example of how this looks attached. https://i.ibb.co/FmyKFv8/566f954ed56eba5f2196ea8d36de9340.png Orvakki (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't see any error in that image. So what do you think that Infobox should look like? --Anton (talk) 17:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Its a direct port from Wiki so should look like this (minus photo of Biden which I removed) https://i.ibb.co/CK257tC/1b6795fda9faa1feb72a8c14f37eeb6c.png Orvakki (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC) EDIT: And did look like the above until just the other day. Not sure what changed Orvakki (talk) 18:10, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Well now I see the difference, thanks for the new picture. Something has happened, and I don't know what. Especially when you said you haven’t changed the style sheets. --Anton (talk) 18:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I did a forensic examination and deleted literally every module, template etc involved. It was a problem with Module:Navbar but still strange as it hadn't been edited since January. But thankfully problem solved! Orvakki (talk) 18:46, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Nice to hear that the problem was solved. Good luck and success with your wiki! --Anton (talk) 19:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Protection
Should probably protect this https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/OATHAuth so no gibberish is added.--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 20:18, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Iron Sword 23 Though in cases like this, the vandalism only account/LTA will invariably just move on to another page, I've ✅ this as not a bad idea, particularly indefinitely move protecting that page as a proactive measure against page move vandalism. In future, these sort of requests should be requested at Administrators' noticeboard or on Discord, rather than on community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 20:25, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Question from Rosie
Hi I am Rosie (David Rose) and live in northern NSW, AUstralia.

I am the owner of moma.miraheze.org/wiki/ and I would really love a Mentor to help me set up the new MOMA wiki for a non-commercial community arts project called the Museum of Moving Art.

I understand that PHP basically runs the show - generating the HTML pages to serve to the browser and that it gets data from a ?MySQL database to compile the pages. I was doing HTML when CSS were the new thing but haven't really touched website creation for well over a decade.

I am a good learner and intelligent, but I do have concentration issues (ChemoBrain) and need to take complex new ideas slowly and methodically. My learning would really benefit from a Mentor: someone who is skilled at the structural side of Wikis, who understands how all the elements work together. If I could ask questions about where things are, for example, or am I on the right track, I think I would learn really well.

It seems to me that everything is in pages and templates are pages that work in pages, and that the hierarchical file structure that I learnt when I was making HTML sites back in the day has been replaced by a database of page elements. Museumofmovingart (talk) 07:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Your wiki is private, so nobody can read in your wiki, is this intenional? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 02:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Lily
 * I have been doing a bit everyday and managed to make it public! No it wasn't intentional.
 * Thanks for your interest. I am going to look at Lilypond Wiki.
 * Cheers
 * Rosie
 * Museumofmovingart (talk) 10:25, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * My Lilypond Wiki is German spoken so it maybe this is not much help for you. In this wiki I am publishing English content but this has not gone very far. Feel free to copy any templates or modules you like from any of my wikis, greetings, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 14:41, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Requests
What would be a good wiki for me to create in the future?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 16:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I would personally recommend you not request any wikis for the time being, as you have two or three wikis you've just started and should keep you plenty busy. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:21, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That's why I said in the future. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 16:24, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but there's really no need to ask about this on community noticeboard now. It's potentially relevant as an off-topic discussion on Discord, but if wanting to discuss it on-wiki, I'd probably wait at least a couple months before getting ideas for a new wiki. Dmehus (talk) 17:11, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 17:12, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :) Dmehus (talk) 17:16, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you were in my position, how would you invite contributors to wikis? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 17:20, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Question
How do I autocollapse navboxes on https://dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org --Iron Sword 23 (talk) 22:20, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You can set the  parameter to the infobox to   as specified in w:Template:Navbox. — Arcversin (talk) 01:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 01:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

ON FANDOM
I wanted to know that as on miraheze, using the shortcut, we are able to link to fandom. However, what shortcut could we use to link to miraheze from fandom. I tried using miraheze:, to no avail. Al-khataei (talk) 02:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikia doesn't appear to have an interwiki prefix for Miraheze. Theoretically you could ask them to add one, though the best solution would probably be to create a template that produces a link. — Arcversin (talk) 02:54, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Adding extended user for the protection banner
I have added and deployed successfully the protection banner for my wiki. But there's an new problem. In the function's source codes, there's an protection type called "Extended Protection" that does like the "30/500" type in Vietnamese Wikipedia that I would reduce it to "15/200" for my wiki. How could I add that "15/200" permission as default on my Wiki and how to setup that protection type on the lock options drop-down list? If there's a way to do that, does I need creating a task on Phabricator? Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:04, 22 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Typically, this is done with adding a new protection level, but I'm not sure what you mean by "15/200"? Do you mean just increasing your  implicit user group edits from 10 edits to 200 edits and account age from 4 days to 15 days? Or, do you want a separate implicit user group and protection level? If the latter, please go into your wiki and create a group named , then reply here when it's been done, and I'll do the PR on GitHub for you. Normally needs a Phabricator task, yes, but this will be fine. Dmehus (talk) 02:09, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer for the second one, and I have done that for you. Is there any optional premissions need to be assigned for that group? Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:18, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And for easier access, my wiki database name was lhmnwiki. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:44, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Song Ngư MGR Apologies for the delay in replying. This request has now been ✅ as a team effort by Reception123 and myself. See further instructions at #T7346 on Phabricator. Dmehus (talk) 17:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

A Glitch
There is an odd glitch in global lock logs that causes the link to the global account to become a redlink, rather than linking to the CentralAuth page: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=globalauth&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers I know that this isn't a glitch with CentralAuth in general because on the Wikimedia lock logs the username links to the CentralAuth page, so this is a Miraheze-specific glitch. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:57, 22 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Since this glitch was Miraheze-specific, creating a task on Phabricator would be a good idea to tell about this glitch. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:53, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * But idk how to use Phabricator. And it isn't a "was" because it is still happening. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. This isn't really a glitch, and my understanding is that this currently works on the Wikimedia wikis as a result of a gadget mentioned in the upstream task. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 12:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Could the gadget be added to Miraheze, or is that not a possibility. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:13, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the gadget should be added. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:26, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Me too. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:33, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Interwiki Table Changes
Hey there, could you please change the local interwiki table for the wiki at limaru.miraheze.org so that the prefix "c" is set to "yes" for both "Forward" and "Transclude"? Thanks so much in advance! Jt15s (talk) 11:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC) Jt15s (talk) 11:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Jt15s Thank you for your request for this local override to the  global interwiki prefix. In this case, since Miraheze Commons and Wikipedia are both set globally to have both the "forward" and "transclude" flags enabled and since this is not the first request for this global override (i.e., there have been quite a few), I've actually ✅ this reasonable request globally. Please let us know if you require any further local interwiki table additions or changes. Thank you Dmehus (talk) 13:55, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Unable to change background color of rectangle
Tried changing the background color of the rectangle on samskritavyakaranam.miraheze.org as advised on Phabricator task T7351 using the CSS code provided, but it didn't work. Could someone please take a look and help us out? --Haritosh (talk) 15:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Contador de páginas del espacio principal (artículos) / Main space page counter (articles)
Hola. He notado en varios wikis que la cantidad de páginas del espacio principal que aparece en Especial:Estadísticas no coincide con la cantidad de páginas del espacio principal de cada wiki. En todos estos casos el número que aparece en la página de estadísticas es menor.

¿Alguien más ha visto esto?

A continuación dejo algunos ejemplos e invito a otros usuarios a comprobar esto mismo en sus wikis.

Translated by Google Translator

Hello. I have noticed on various wikis that the number of main space pages displayed in Special: Statistics does not match the number of main space pages for each wiki. In all these cases the number that appears on the statistics page is less.

Has anyone else seen this?

Here are some examples and invite other users to check this on their wikis.

Saludos cordiales. Best regards. Hugo Ar (talk) 18:30, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hugo Ar This does happen from time to time, and I'm not sure what causes it, but system administrators have a maintenance script (, if I remember correctly) that they can run to update these statistics. Would you mind creating a Phabricator task, linking to the  for this community noticeboard thread, so they can run the script and also explain what causes it? Dmehus (talk) 20:49, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much Dmehus. I already reported on Phabricator. Ticket T7367. Greetings. Hugo Ar (talk) 21:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, Hugo Ar. for reporting it and for filing the task on Phabricator. It should be run in the next day or two, and hopefully we'll learn what causes it. Dmehus (talk) 22:56, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Setting up SEO (for Google)
Welp... This time I need help with some "SEO" things, since my wiki were transferred from the FANDOM version. Normally, people using Google to search for my wiki. So, how can I setting up Google SEO for my wiki? (note:, if you answer my question this time, don't delay my request too long.) Song Ngư MGR (talk) 15:49, 26 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Song Ngư MGR Thanks for the note and for the request. This can actually be done by you in ManageWiki, as the best way is to enable the WikiSEO extension, then add the parser function to pages on your wiki which are indexed by Google. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 16:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you just put in the text? Or a subpage or something? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 16:57, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * idk man Song Ngư MGR (talk) 17:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Wait, hold up. Isn't "#seo" were the correct one? Song Ngư MGR (talk) 17:25, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes, my bad. Sorry. Dmehus (talk) 18:40, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Song Ngư MGR and InspecterAbdel Yes, you would just add the parser function to the text of the page. Note that you can also create a WikiSEO template, of varying complexity, and transclude that template on every content page. Dmehus (talk) 18:44, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Cite is broken when put in a ref tag on micronationswiki
Help, I don't know what's wrong. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 16:50, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you please give us a link to where the citation isn't working? --Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * https://micronations.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Cite InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:34, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Protect wiki
Hi. I have a question. Is it possible to have a public wiki where only chosen users can make changes? How can I change the configuration to do this ? Thanks. Solidairesgm (talk) 12:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. Yes that is definitely possible! All you need to do is to go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions and remove the 'edit' permission from * (which means anonymous users) and from user. Then you can create a custom group and assign that group the 'edit' permission, and then use Special:UserRights to assign users to your new custom group. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:11, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Solidairesgm In addition to the option Reception123 said, you might also consider enabling the Moderation extension, which essentially means that a local administrator or moderator must approve any proposed edits by non-automoderated users. You would then just assign the  user right to users who want to be able to edit without moderation. The advantage of this approach is that it still allows all users to propose edits, but doesn't effectively deny non-permissioned users from at least proposing edits, and it also is quite effective at thwarting spam only accounts in their tracks. Dmehus (talk) 15:36, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Freenode status update
Tonight (04:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)), Freenode staff took over #miraheze and related channels, removing our access from those channels. We no longer have a presence on Freenode, and have been effectively forced off the platform. If you still use Freenode, I strongly recommend you stop and migrate from that platform immediately. The "staff" have proven themselves completely untrustworthy and willing to perform serious abuses in order to maintain their image. I've dropped what channels I still had access to and further dropped my own accounts. I will only use Libera.Chat moving forward, and (again) strongly encourage you all to do the same. -- Void  Whispers 04:00, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * On a side note, if you were looking to get a wikimedia cloak you need to get on the list before you drop your account. You’ll need to go through the process which requires your freenode account. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 11:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * MacFan4000 While I get the idea behind reserving Wikimedia and Wikipedia cloaks for existing Freenode users, longer term that's a bad practice as many users will not have had a Freenode account. Two questions: does this apply only to users who previously had a Wikimedia or Wikipedia cloak for that username on Freenode? (I would hope so.) Also, do you know if they plan to drop that reservation list after a reasonable period of time, as a best practice? (I'm thinking a 3-6 month reservation timeframe would be reasonable, then anyone who hasn't re-requested their reserved cloak would no longer have their cloak reserved for them.) Dmehus (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The actions that have occurred on Freenode last night violate the basic principles of free and open source as well as the way which peer-directed projects run. I'm glad to see that already IRCCloud, Gentoo, Atheme and I'm sure many more projects have condemned the actions that occurred. While I'm not good at writing myself, I'd stand with any member of our community that wanted to start an open letter in simmilar fashion to the above ones I've mentioned. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:06, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Likewise, I am at least somewhat better at writing and willing to stand with Miraheze in terms of declaring our support for Libera, as well as aiding in the drafting of said letter. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 15:09, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What's freenode? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Where Miraheze had its IRC presence for most of the last 5 years. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:13, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, but why are we forced off of it? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * We chose to move as we taken over in a hostile manner by new management who then took control of our channels last night in an attempt to stop people leaving. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:32, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * How do you remove the info you gave Freenode when you registered your nick? 18:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * R4356th, I believe. Dmehus (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. 11:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 16:04, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Change background color

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Discussion moved to Discord, which really is the best venue for these sort of support questions that involve a lot of back-and-forth. Dmehus (talk) 18:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

hello. how to change color of background from white to something dark? in preferences->appearance it's blue but even after saving, main page is still bright white and blinding NoelSims (talk) 17:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Look for appearance under preferences.--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 17:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I already said and I quote: " in preferences->appearance it's blue but even after saving, main page is still bright white and blinding" NoelSims (talk) 18:07, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Show me a picture. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:14, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to send links to images, but captcha doesn't load, do you have discord or are you on IRC so I could send them to you there? NoelSims (talk) 18:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah I have discord. Let me move over. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm Wojtek#4519 on discord NoelSims (talk) 18:27, 29 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

Page Count Glitch
On both Dreadful Literature Wiki and Magnificent Literature Wiki, the page count is inaccurate: Can you fix this, as it seems to be correct on other wikis. This is because both wikis need at least 40 pages before the main page can be redesigned, but if the page count is inaccurate people will think that there are less pages than there actually are. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * On Magnificent Literature Wiki, mh:wonderfulbooks:Special:Statistics says there are only 16 content pages but if you look at mh:wonderfulbooks:Special:AllPages I counted and there are over 34, not counting redirects and the Main Page.
 * On Dreadful Literature Wiki, mh:dreadfulbooks:Special:Statistics says that there are only 21 content pages but if you look at mh:dreadfulbooks:Special:AllPages I counted and there are 78 pages not including sandboxes, the main page, and redirects.


 * Hi, The 'article' count by default on Special:Statistics has other requirements. See this help page for information. You can use Special:ManageWiki/settings on your wiki to change it although it may take a while for the update to be reflected unless you ask a Sysadmin to force an update. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  17:46, 29 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hola Blubabluba9990 y RhinosF1. Hace unos días planteé esto mismo. Inicié una solicitud en Phabricator: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7367. Pero, al parecer, por ahora la respuesta es: Ejecuté el guión en todos los wikis. Si todavía no funciona, desafortunadamente, no hay nada más que se pueda hacer según la cita de John anterior. Saludos cordiales. Hugo Ar (talk) 07:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Translated by Google Translator
 * Hello Blubabluba9990 and RhinosF1. A few days ago I raised this myself. I started an application on Phabricator: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7367. But, apparently, for now the answer is: I've ran the script on all the wikis. If it still doesn't work unfortunately there's not really anything more that can be done per the quote from John above. Best regards. Hugo Ar (talk) 07:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I read the help page. So Special:AllPages does give an accurate count, but apparently according to the help page a page must have a link and a comma to be counted as a legitimate page. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:09, 30 May 2021 (UTC)