Requests for global permissions

Universal Omega's Request for Global Rollbacker

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 * ✅. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:27, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

User: Universal Omega ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request
Currently there is a substantial lack of volunteers in Miraheze, including wiki creators, CVT, and even technical positions. I have decided to request global rollbacker because of this. So that I may be able to assist CVT in some aspects whenever possible. Although global rollbackers have a fairly small responsibility, the aspect of the position in assisting CVT with vandalism can be a great help for the existing CVT members. While I can't commit to being fully active every single day, I can use this position to undo vandalism I come across, or see occurring in the CVT feeds. I do have other responsibilities on Miraheze that take a way some of my availability in this type of position, but I think I would still be able to be active enough around the community, in order to affectively perform in this position and assist CVT in at least one aspect of vandalism. Due to the lack of volunteers everywhere, I am looking to put myself available to assist where possible. And while I do know I have no time (or even desire) for anything else in CVT (Global Sysop/Steward) due to time-constraints and even overall desire for that, I do think as a global rollbacker I can put myself to use to assist the small CVT team, without taking to much time out of other responsibilities here. Universal Omega (talk) 20:45, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  CosmicAlpha is an exceptional user and instills much trust. I wouldn't have any issues with them becoming a Global Rollbacker to assist the CVT team in countervandalism across the farm. He's mostly very active and so I don't see any issues with him being a CVT member. I know he's also working on changes to the DiscordNotifications extension that will help CVT to find problematic edits better and faster so the contribution would be exceptional.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:54, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) . Oh yes, absolutely. This user doesn't fool around here, so I would say yes here. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:10, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  Vandalism has been on the rise recently. I believe that with more personnel, we can handle the situation smoothly./ He is a reliable user and suitable as a Global Rollbacker.-- 1108-Kiju /▶talk  12:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 4) No issues with this request. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 13:04, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 5)  The candidate's background appears to be very solid in my opinion and it leaves me with no concern for filling in this relatively minor role. --DeeM28 (talk) 14:36, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 6)  UO has established his reliability beyond a shadow of a doubt. I am confident that if he could be trusted with high-level backend access, he can also be trusted with the Global Rollbacker tool --   Joseph  TB  CT  CA   21:25, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 7)  Trusted user.
 * 8) I thought I already voted but I guess not. CosmicAlpha has contributed positively to Miraheze for a while, and I can trust him with this hat. Only concern I have is it seems like he has a lot on his plate right now (given his SRE membership) so I fear that this could cause burnout, but I have no other issues with this request. --  Bukkit  [ cetacean needed ] 15:20, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

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DarkMatterMan4500's Request for Global Rollbacker

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 * Clear consensus in favor so marking this as ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:08, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

User: DarkMatterMan4500 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request
I am requesting this global right because I have been tirelessly reverting vandalism, and just recently, I've had to tirelessly clean up vandalism on the  due to some recent vandalism attacks. I'd like to acquire this right so if I see vandalism occurring anywhere on any type of wiki (aside from the ones I'm administering), I will be there to revert them. I've been actively contributing to Miraheze within the span of nearly 33 months now (since January 29th, 2020 believe it or not). had suggested to me that I should apply to be a global rollbacker so it can save me all the trouble of having to barrel through vandalism one at a time globally. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:39, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Additional comments given by user (if any)
I honestly hope this can make my life as a wiki editor a lot easier these days. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:10, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  I often see him doing vandalism revert on smaller wikis. If rollbacks were available, it would help us deal with vandalism more smoothly. --1108-Kiju / ▶ Talk  02:58, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  I also think that DarkMatterMan4500 should have a global getter. now there is 1 recycler and very few. It is possible to see him in wiki applications. If he did the vandalism rollback, which I couldn't do, it is to be appreciated. I support.  Hey Türkiye  message?  15:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately that is very true. We only have left, while there's barely anybody interested in this, other than me and Universal Omega in question. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:23, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  The role of Global Rollbacker is not one that entails a large degree of responsibility but it does facilitate work and potentially also provides for a path to other global functions if the user demonstrates an ability. The main qualifications that I see for this role are activity and trust. In terms of DarkMatterMan4500 I see that he is very active on the project and I do not see any reasons why he could not be trusted with this role given that he actively participates in countervandalism efforts (according to 1108-Kiju at least). --DeeM28 (talk) 14:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  I think that global rollbacker will help them. They are reverting vandalism quite often and reporting to CVT, I think that having the additional global rollbacker rights will be highly beneficial to them and I definitely support this request. Universal Omega (talk) 02:35, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  You know, take it. You've always been there for me and you helped me deal with people stressing me out last year so I really think you deserve it buddy. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 04:17, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  —MdsShakil (talk) 05:57, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 5)  I have no reason to oppose. by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 06:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 6)  Trusted user. No issue with this. This user reverted and reported a significant vandalism (as well as vandal's impersonation) on DistroWiki. I think he can continue paying attention to vandalism on DistroWiki.
 * 7) Without a doubt. This user has been contributing to #cvt on IRC tirelessly. --Blad  (talk|contribs|accounts|email) 12:47, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  He requested Global Sysop rights 2 years ago, but it wasn't successful, so I am going to be opposing for now. Keep up the anti-vandalism work though, and then after certain time you will got my support!  [NOTE: Now supporting, not opposing. ]
 * This is not Global Sysop right, far smaller in fact, and it seems hardly fair to just say 'well he tried years ago and it didn't work so I'm going to oppose now'. If you want him to keep up anti-vandalism then consider supporting the tool that will let him do it better, which does not grant advanced access like the ability to lock. --Raidarr (talk) 10:58, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I actually agree with Raidarr. This time, it's not about the Global Sysop flag, but rather the Global Rollbacker flag, seeing I have been working tirelessly on end reverting vandalism, and reporting very often on Discord. It's been about a good 2 years since I joined their server (since October 2020 the last time I remember). --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:51, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 2 years ago is a pretty long time for requests like these. --Blad  (talk|contribs|accounts|email) 12:01, 15 October 2022 (UTC)


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MrJaroslavik's Confirmation for Global Sysop
User: MrJaroslavik ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request

 * Relevant links: first and second election -- resignation
 * Meta-Wiki logs (you can filter it to locks/global blocks/etc) -- CVT log - Personal CVT log (since second appointement, i bet there is 95% of my actions)

Hello! It's year and 3 months since i was re-appointed as global sysop after second election, so i request confirmation, for reasons below. As you may know, my activity is low (activity logs in links above), but i am not sure what is better - either:
 * A) resign because i am mostly inactive or
 * B) stay because i can be useful sometimes, in case of urgent requests if i am online.

To be fully honest, i cannot guarantee that I will be more active, but I want to know your opinion. If you don't know me, everything is on my userpage and in previous requests. PS: You can take this also as semi-confirmation request about my Meta Administrator permissions and comment my Meta Administrator aspect (= after this ends, i will look what to do - either resign/request confirmation/stay). NOTE: This request will be successful if there is a support ratio of at least 80%. Support = Keep, Oppose = Revocation of rights Request for Stewards: Please leave this open for 14 days if there is not 10 comments after 7 days.

Additional comments given by user (if any)
Please, if you have questions, ask me.

Questions for candidate

 * 1)  What do actually expect your activity to look like in the future? An hour a week? A couple hours a month? Every other month? Just when directly pinged? Universal Omega (talk) 11:19, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi! I don't have some expectations, but "when i am online and see report and i can act" could be good reply - also i sometimes look to Abuse filters and CVT logs, but there is nothing where i should act. Also i want to point out thai this request is not just about my permissions, I don't stick them and hat collecting is not my case. I think we can use precedent from this discussion at later date. It's not for first time when there is A) and B) as above.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 19:58, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * 1) Procedural note I just wanted to note that it is an unusual occurrence as far as I am aware for a candidate to submit a vote of confidence without a necessity for it and without an existing procedure. I would also say that it is commendable that this has been done. For the procedural aspects it appears that the candidate is setting down their own rules for their request which also appears to be unusual. There is a dilemma here. Either (a) the candidate's rules are applied by the closing Steward or (b) the rules set out here are applied. My preference would be to apply option (b) as calling a vote a vote of "confidence" instead of a vote of "no confidence" does not appear to be different enough to the rules that exist. If the candidate wishes to apply their own rules nothing stops them from doing so as if they do not qualify by their own rules they can voluntarily resign - but I do not believe a Steward should apply different rules simply because this request is formulated differently. --DeeM28 (talk) 17:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi This is technically new request for global permissions, it's why i used support ratio 80%. Originally, i wanted to use own ratio 60/70%, but it could be setting of own rules and i don't wanted do it. That being sait, it's not "candidate rules", it's rules for appointement.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 17:06, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also i considered "vote of no confidence", but it could be ridiculous to create vote of no confidence for myself, right?--MrJaroslavik (talk) 17:10, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) although the user is inactive, they are still a valuable member of the CVT team when available. Although I advise the user to stepdown if they are unable to delegate time for their duties as GS. --  Bukkit  [ cetacean needed ] 21:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) I was not concerned of Jaro's ability to do reasonably well both as a meta sysop and as a global sysop while I was Steward. The problem of course was him being present enough to make much impact. Any 'full team' discussion would at the very least be delayed or split were they to include him. I can mirror Agent's sentiment that I haven't seen him sweep in at truly key moments, provide special utility or be a dealbreaker in the vein that John can be for his activity. But I lean towards 'take what we can get' given I have little issue with his operations when he is present. I might advise that Jaro consider if he wants to make a bit more of a push should this succeed to his satisfaction; if not, I would expect down the road this will result in discussions both vaguely and specifically referencing him as an example of hats going largely unused in the vein of NDK. Overall I do not believe the status quo will be affected with or without. --Raidarr (talk) 00:34, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * In the experience that I have had at Miraheze persons who do not seem able to commit to being active end up being removed or resigning at some point in time. --DeeM28 (talk) 17:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) While the points around inactivity are certainly not a positive, I see vanishingly few active folks with permissions to equal Global Sysop role. Losing that technical resource/institutional knowledge without redundant support seems ill-advised... NotAracham (Talk | Contribs) 21:31, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  Miraheze needs trustworthy volunteers. Even if a volunteer is unable to be as active as considered ideal, they are better to have than not to have.--SchizoidNightmares (talk) 18:37, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) While MrJaroslavik has experience and is generally helpful when he's active, he's also generally not very active and we see him pop up every so often to lock an account reported on #miraheze-cvt. I don't necessarily have any issues with him as a Global Sysop but if he believes that he may not have any more time to devote to his duties, it may be best to listen to the Code of Conduct and step down and reapply once he has more time in the future. Otherwise, if he believes he may be able to devote more time then I'd have no issue supporting this. We usually already have at least one active Steward online at most times to lock accounts and most of the locking requests MrJaroslavik has actioned weren't really an emergency, per se, as they were mostly contained or he ended up clashing with someone else who was going to lock too. Once again, I have no issues with MrJaroslavik remaining as GS but if he does believe he can't devote time to the project, it may be wiser to step down per the Code of Conduct and reapply at a later date.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:34, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) I concur with the above. --Blad  (talk • contribs • accounts) 23:44, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 3) Activity has been a major concern for some time. MrJaroslavik is quite talented in the role, and I don't believe this talent will be lost without the GS toolset. I hope to see MrJaroslavik continue countervandalism activities when possible even if the permissions are to be removed. I would also hope to see a new RfGR for MrJaroslavik in the future, should circumstances allow a return to full activity.  dross  (t • c • g) 02:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  I have spent the last few days debating on how to vote here. On one hand, the activity is not ideal, on the other hand can be around sometimes, if directly asked to be, or check the feeds every one in a while. However, I can't support this request because of activity, but I also do not wish to oppose this because CVT is in fact already pretty small, and it doesn't help to loose another member of it either, and besides activity I haven't really had any other issues here. But again, I can't support due to activity. But I also dislike the idea of opposing this request as well. For this reason, I must abstain here, as I can't support or oppose this request. Universal Omega (talk) 02:20, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Global sysop is only him! by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 07:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Uh... could you try that one again? I'm not sure if you quite got the intentions of the request. --Raidarr (talk) 10:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This seems like a support vote to me. As long as this confirmation passes, MrJaroslavik will not lose his rights. --Blad  (talk • contribs • accounts) 22:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, i wanted to mention that, but i forgot, fixed now.-MrJaroslavik (talk) 22:28, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Can you please confirm this is oppose vote (=to demote me) to be 100% sure?--MrJaroslavik (talk) 19:28, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  per Buel, as well as abstain comments above
 * What is "per Buel"? He never clarified how his statement actually supported an oppose. If he's the only global sysop then it sounds quite silly to oppose in a manner that guarantees we will have no global sysops. You make votes off the cuff like this and unfortunately it seems they are rarely backed up, the abstain comments bring much more material but paired with the first issue it seems almost lazy to just point to them and move on. --Raidarr (talk) 10:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  While I was very close to a weak support I have regretfully decided that I cannot do so. The reason obviously is activity. What is most concerning is that if we are to look at Meta contributions and logs there is a full two month gap between August and October where MrJaroslavik has been completely absent without any warning to the community. Otherwise if MrJaroslavik had been sporadically active I would have been more persuaded to accept the request on the sole basis that if MrJaroslavik leaves there will be no more Global Sysops left. If MrJaroslavik is only active a few times a month for a role that clearly requires taking quick action and being active I do not think it is right for him to continue. I would be willing to change my vote to an abstain or weak support however if MrJaroslavik can guarantee that there will not be any new gaps in his activity and that he will at least be sporadically available a few times a week as a general idea. --DeeM28 (talk) 16:56, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi I don't want to influence your vote and respect your (oppose) choice. As i already said, i cannot guarantee my activity will be better, i don't want to lie, but again this request either than silent resignation was because I wanted to weigh in with the community A) and B). It!s not just about me. And for activity of GS in general - In 90% i act per report in #cvt on IRC or rarely somewhere else, options of own initiative are limited. I don't said it's not possible - there is cvt-feed (majority of "reports" is false positive), Abuse Filter (but now when there are not spambots is almost nothing) - it's only my view. So to answer your question, i can act when i don't sleep + when i get notification about report + when i can act (it's not something for what is CU needed. Feel free to ask another questions. --MrJaroslavik (talk) 19:28, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand that you are not able to guarantee activity. As a compromise would you at least be able to guarantee that it is unlikely for you to have another two month absence and it is rather likely that you would be able to respond to CVT reports at least a few times a week? If the response is positive I may be willing to support mainly because there is an under staffing at the CVT team. --DeeM28 (talk) 19:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi! No, i will not have another two month absence and will try to respond to reports when i can. But again, I don't want to influence your vote. Also i want to mention, if this request will be successful, after 2-4 months, i will weight if i should continue or not, and take into account all comments from here.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 19:22, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems odd that you do not want to 'influence' votes when that is necessarily what people do in requests for permissions, or confirmation or indeed in self defense for removal. Questions, clarification, your input is a necessary factor for people to come to a decision; if you had no influence at all being the subject of discussion then it sort of defeats the purpose, and if you did not want to influence you'd just let the request stand without leaving any sort of comment or response which would presumably harm people's impressions. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your use of the term. --Raidarr (talk) 21:36, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi! I just don't think i should try to change user's votes after they was published. So i use wording "I don't want to influence your vote, but..." to be on "safe side". I know it's unusual but why not...--MrJaroslavik (talk) 09:20, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That's the thing: In this case DeeM makes an explicit opening in his vote that he is willing to have his vote influenced, perhaps changed if you can provide information that satisfies him as he otherwise has little to go on based on your overall activity. In this case unusual is arguably crossing into self sabotage if you are looking for a particular, strict ratio and do not want to affect a fenceline vote that is almost pleading to be changed. That margin looks like it will be essential for this vote to have any chance of passing given current traffic. --Raidarr (talk) 11:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contribs • global • rights) 03:33, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've moved your oppose to the end of the vote section as votes are made in chronological order. I'd also like to mention that not much weight is given to votes that don't give any reason. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 12:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, apologies. I meant to update my reasoning at some point but then just never found the chance. I don't have the utmost confidence giving Jaroslavik GS permissions due to some of my previous interactions with him. However, I concede I've been away for a while and would like to give him a shot. As a result, I am modifying my vote to a . Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contribs • global • rights) 01:58, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Universal Omega's Request for Global Sysop
User: Universal Omega ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request
For a little over a month, I have been active as a global rollbacker. This has allowed me to rollback vandalism, but it does not allow me to take further action where necessary. In light of the above confirmation for MrJaroslavik, and reduced activity I am making this request for global sysop, to further volunteer my time in the CVT position and engage in countervandalism. During my time as a global rollbacker, I have already put some effort into bettering the CVT monitoring, including running a CVTBot in for reporting of possible actions necessary for CVT. It has made it easier to detect vandalism/spam, and I have personally used it numerous times for global rollbacker actions. I understand I have not been a global rollbacker for all that long, but since that was a relatively minor role that hasn't given me all the tools I really needed to be a productive member of CVT, as all I could do is rollback edits, not take any further action on them but report it in when necessary, and wait for someone else to handle it. For this reason, and for the reason of the activity of the only other global sysop, as stated above, and that we only have 4 other CVT members (Stewards) with over 5,000 wikis, I have decided to request Global Sysop to become a more proactive and beneficial member of the CVT team. Thank you! Universal Omega (talk) 02:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  Trusted user. No issue with this.
 * 2)  Absolutely. --Blad  (talk • contribs • global) 11:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  Good luck! by Buel ·Talk·Wikimail 11:33, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * , as Universal Omega's background goes well beyond a stint as GR which I honestly haven't seen much of personally. UO is one of what you might call core volunteers to the project, personally sustaining a great deal of what keeps the project afloat on the Technical/MediaWiki side. For this reason I advise moderation to avoid burnout and not getting into too many fields too quickly (for example, looking past GS to another role within a few months). Frankly I've seen you burn out before or have ideological differences with others resulting in soft quits and it is not pretty. I make this vote suspecting that is still possible and wondering how long this line of activity will last. I would also preach caution and good faith after reading back a minor incident on Discord yesterday. Nonetheless, I expect you will do well to support the system in the meantime and GS alone is not a particularly intensive role especially when all the hard hitting tends to be on a Steward's shoulders anyway. Its true value is being eyes and ears for the Steward structure and chipping at the fringes of their ever-present workload. I wish you the best in this capacity. --Raidarr (talk) 11:59, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  Adding my support, tempered with similar concerns as Raidarr:
 * 2) Many hats can lead to some of those hats getting dropped or a heavy weight on the one wearing that hat stack, raising risk of burnout.
 * 3) Consolidation of every major power in one set of hands without oversight is a risk - not just of the user going rogue, but the massive damage that could be done should their account be compromised.
 * That said, I have every confidence that CosmicAlpha and the folks involved in site engineering will find an appropriate way to balance these risks. NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 14:36, 4 November 2022 (UTC)