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Could someone perform a CheckUser on these accounts?
Spain's got toys on his lap Spain is the strangest place on Earth I have a reason to believe that these 2 accounts were being used abusively, and here's the proof that confirms my suspicions. His userpage should be good enough. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 15:43, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and one more thing: Before you guys do, I would like to remind you that the other account that was used has vandalized an article and replaced the content with some nonsense. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 15:53, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Spain is the strangest place on Earth has been ✅ by Reception123. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 16:03, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for Undeletion of Rothwell Wiki
Following this wiki request, which cannot be created as the  database name still exists as a deleted wiki, I confirmed it is still at Special:ManageWiki/core/rothwellwiki. I have separately confirmed they were the local  at the time of the wiki's deletion, as per the original wiki request. So, could any steward please kindly undelete this wiki for ? Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 22:01, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ by per this request., your wiki has been undeleted. You should be able to manage your wiki again. Dmehus (talk) 22:10, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm unable to edit the wiki as it says:
 * "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
 * The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Users."
 * This is despite me being logged in and checking I was part of "Users". Can you offer any guidance? Rothwell (talk) 19:33, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I managed to fix it by adjusting who could edit the wiki.
 * I think it's sorted for now! Rothwell (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, ✅! Yes, this would do it. Glad you got it sorted out, and your wiki is back in business. Dmehus (talk) 05:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Global username
Hello. I wanted to ask whether I could "usurp" the username https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/GR since this user apparently made no edits? Godless Raven (talk) 07:51, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've moved this here (to SN) as ultimately it will be for Stewards to decide. Last time something like this was done, the user in question was asked on their talkpage if they objected to the usurpation and with no response in a month, it was done. I propose that in this instance, the same procedure is followed: you should ask the user on their talkpage whether they object and if they do not respond in a month, come back here and request that a Steward usurp the account. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:03, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Done! https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:GR --Godless Raven (talk) 08:37, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good. On 26 December, feel free to repost here if there has been no response from the user. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:49, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Messed up my wiki
I accidentally deleted the bureaucrat group on my new wiki, could a steward add  to sysop please? Seemplez (talk) 17:34, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This is indeed a steward request, so I've pinged to this thread. However, since it is somewhat technical in nature in that it was an obvious inadvertent group removal, I have also pinged, to potentially do it as an emergency system administrator action in lieu of stewards if not done within approximately 24 hours. Dmehus (talk) 18:13, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've restored the original bureaucrat group to your wiki. Do be sure not to remove it (or the managewiki right) until you have setup a replacement. -- Void  Whispers 18:59, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you and . Seemplez (talk) 19:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, and thank you to for correcting that as well. Universal Omega is going to investigate the possibility of adding a warning to users prior to removing either the default   user group or the   user right in ManageWiki. Dmehus (talk) 19:34, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for local interwiki administrator of Kubu Wiki
Sorry I forgot to write this in my request, thanks Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden) 16:49, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Due to some inconsistencies between the policy page and successive interwiki reform RfCs, it was somewhat unclear on what the requirements, exactly, were for local interwiki administrator. There is actually a 500 edit requirement on the wiki where requested for local interwiki administrator. While you don't meet that on your wiki, since you meet the global edit requirement, that criterion is satisfied. Nevertheless, there is actually supposed to be a local election held (which can be an election by acclamation), so would you be able to hold a local election by creating a local election page somewhere on the wiki? You can find more details on the process here. Once your local election has concluded in at least 5-7 calendar days, you can return to this thread, reply, and link to the election for a steward to assess. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:22, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Meantime, I remain available to add any interwiki prefixes for you on that wiki. Dmehus (talk) 17:22, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have established a local election on the mainpage and hope that it fits the requirements LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 18:14, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅! Did you need any interwiki prefixes added on that wiki before it concludes and rights are granted by a steward, or are you able to wait? Happy to help either way. Dmehus (talk) 19:19, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Local Interwiki prefix "lily" for Lilypond Wiki (transclusion + link) would be a real help now if it does not cause too much labor now, thank you very much LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 19:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. ✅ at kubu wiki. 20:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This ✅, as you've been declared locally elected by acclamation, so this will be ✅ following this reply. Dmehus (talk) 08:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Local election on Daria Wiki assessment requested
The 7 days reserved for the DariaWiki admin election are finished, and I am the lead candidate. I request that this be acknowledged with admin access granted to me. Thank you.

mh:dariawiki:Pagename WellTemperedClavier (talk) 23:48, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Your users' voting syntax doesn't follow quite the standard conventions, since their votes are not signed, but nevertheless, any steward can verify the page's history and confirm individual votes, if so desired. Nevertheless, this ✅. I will try and remind a steward in a couple days to assess your local election for the position of  from the looks of it. Dmehus (talk) 23:53, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry to make you go through the extra step. Thanks! WellTemperedClavier (talk) 01:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, it should be ✅ at all, but thank you for the kind words. :) Dmehus (talk) 01:42, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * By the way @Dmehus, is sysop the same as admin? WellTemperedClavier (talk) 18:10, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes,  is the group name for , as it is referenced to that in the relevant database table(s). It is not the same as  , but you can always hold a separate local election for that role later on, if so desired. Dmehus (talk) 18:23, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Void  Whispers 17:40, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Am I now the sysop? WellTemperedClavier (talk) 18:25, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Per user rights log, you have administrator rights on the wiki. So, yes! HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 18:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! WellTemperedClavier (talk) 18:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Local election on Athas Wiki assessment requested
I made a local election at https://athas.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page and signaled the election making a banner in the main page with a link to the local election page: https://athas.miraheze.org/wiki/Athas:Elections/2020. In the rules I wrote for the election I established 7 calendar days and the local election is finished. I voted for me signing my vote, but there is no other voters. I request the corresponding steward check that election on Athas. Avengium (talk) 19:30, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, this ✅. A steward should assess your local election request in the next week, and grant the requested rights if successful. I will try and ping a steward in the next 2-3 days if not done by then. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 19:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good, closing. -- Void  Whispers 17:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for Undeletion of Perl 6 Wiki
Could either of the stewards, being, please undelete Perl 6 Wiki, which exists as a deleted wiki? There's been a request on IRC by a user in not that long ago requesting this. Direct link to undelete is at Special:ManageWiki/core/perl6wiki. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 21:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Done. Also unclosed locally to prevent a re-deletion. -- Void  Whispers 17:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Inactive notice for active wiki
Probably related to wikis closed in error: https://wfhb.miraheze.org/ is showing as inactive although there are multiple posts within the last 45 days.

We value the opportunity to have our wiki hosted here. Thanks! Chuck.Beckett (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your post, though this is out of scope of stewards. Secondarily, there's no indication this wiki was closed since the inadvertent wiki closure, which has since been resolved. Thus, as you are the local  on the wiki, all you need to do is go into Special:ManageWiki and uncheck "inactive," and the notice should disappear. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:00, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm looking at the wiki, and I'm not actually noticing any local activity other than a single edit today. Is there some other activity present on the wiki that isn't obvious? -- Void  Whispers 22:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

I cannot access my wiki Yandross
I don't know if it's been deleted or not, but whenever I try to access my wiki, it just loads a white page with nothing on it. I can't access the Special:ManageWiki page and for all intents and purposes, the thing doesn't seem to exist anymore.

Here's where it (used) to be yandross.miraheze.org/ Drexanz (talk) 04:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look like it's been deleted, but there's something technically wrong, so I've referred this to system administrators on Discord. Feel free to join there, if you wish. If not, though, one of them should reply to this thread. Dmehus (talk) 04:50, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright, thank you. I'll wait around here for an answer to the problem. Drexanz (talk) 04:51, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Just stating that I can access the wiki again. All looks well. Drexanz (talk) 07:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, I'm also able to access it! Please feel free to let us know if you have any issues again, though preferably on Community noticeboard as such technical issues aren't something stewards need to respond to. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 09:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I hereby request a CheckUser on these users involved in recent vandalism attacks based on their edits on the Best TV Shows Wiki
I have a reason to believe that sockpuppetry is somehow involved here considering these edit summaries: https://besttvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Kikoriki&oldid=55688 https://besttvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Kikoriki&oldid=55311

RhinosF1 wanted me to request it here on the Stewards Noticeboard in case you're wondering. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 20:00, 1 December 2020 (UTC)


 * If any of the Stewards are seeing this, feel free to perform a CheckUser on the sockpuppets involved in multiple article vandalism attacks from the Best TV Shows Wiki and on the Terrible TV Shows Wiki. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 22:24, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, most stewards have likely seen this thread, and will take action, accordingly, if they feel it's warranted. Note that there may be no final resolution to your thread, either. Rest assured, though, they will review your report, and act in a manner as they feel is appropriate. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:26, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for reassuring me. I hope either, , or does something about it. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 22:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Stop bots accessing my wiki
Please can you by wgDefaultRobotPolicy, by the no index, no follow thing said on IRC or robots txt, make it so bots cannot crawl my wiki.

Wikiname: https://iolrathenere.miraheze.org

TheBurningPrincess (talk) 20:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this request. For clarity, do you want this done on ildril.miraheze.org or iolrathenere.miraheze.org? Dmehus (talk) 20:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Noting your reply, thank you for the clarification. With that clarification, a steward should effect this change within a few days. Dmehus (talk) 20:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Both please TheBurningPrincess (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Not sure where this got set, but it looks like this has already been done for these two wikis. -- Void  Whispers 21:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Block this user
There's a user called AudiomachineForLife on Rotten Websites Wiki and he's spreading anti-pro life propaganda. Here's proof:

An edit he made: https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Jesus-is-savior.com&diff=23520&oldid=23456

An edit he made on a page he made: https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Survivors_of_the_Abortion_Holocaust&diff=prev&oldid=19260

Some proposals he made on Awful Movies Wiki that include defaming a pro-life movie: https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/Topic:Vsnf8j403titd70z https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/Topic:Vsr65ssppii8kco5

Please delete the Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust page and block AudiomachineForLife. Nekoman (talk) 03:03, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have not looked in detail at the wiki or pages, but as a matter of principles Miraheze does not engage in censorship. A person is free to be "pro-life" or "pro-choice" and I do not think Miraheze should prevent users from expressing their opinions. This also looks like a request for blocking the user on that wiki so I think you should contact the local administrators there and they will decide to block or not. DeeM28 (talk) 11:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I took a look, and as DeeM28 has said we do not censor users, as long as they do not violate our Global Policies. Judging by the links you’ve provided, I see no reason for a Global Sysop or Steward to act. Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 12:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * They were from April and onward before you made this report. In other words, if it was still going, then that would be different. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 13:16, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you guys don't like censorship, then why did you guys close Atrocious YouTubers Wiki, Toxic Fandoms and Hatedoms Wiki, Incredible Wikis and Users Wiki, and Unfavorable Wikis and Users Wiki? Nekoman (talk) 21:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That's a very different case. In that case, and similar ones, local wiki bureaucrats repeatedly chose to ignore steward and Global Sysop warnings to deal with their local wiki administrators and users who harassed other users in block and edit summaries and with unsourced potentially libelous statements, thus contravening Content Policy in a systemic way. Dmehus (talk) 21:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * From what I have seen, they were never intended to harass users however the Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust page is biased and defamatory and one of AudiomachinneForLife's edit summary said "More to show that Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust is evil and should be terminated". Nekoman (talk) 03:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you please give us more details about what makes you say that the page is defamatory? And it has been asked above already, but have you tried contacting the local administrators about this issue first? In addition, the definition of defamatory is "the action of damaging the good reputation of someone", so I don't think it's possible for a movie to be defamed. The only way that it would be violating our Content Policy is if the page is spreading "unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against [...] a group of people". You are free to provide us with more justification as to why you think this is violating the Content Policy, but please do try to contact the local sysops first. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 09:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I can't login, is there another problem going on?
I was User:XXSeph_MySpaceXx but now I can no longer log in on any miraheze wiki. what happened? I'm trying to stay calm XXSeph MySpaceXx 12:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * nevermind I managed to log in disregard this XXSeph MySpaceXx (talk) 13:08, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

does this have to do with the domain change?
after I had the domain of my wiki changed, members of the wiki have reported being unable to log in. I was unable to log in for a while too but eventually got back in, but the other members still can't log in. does this issue have to do with the domain change? is there anything you can do to fix it? XXSeph MySpaceXx (talk) 15:08, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain exactly, but the problem is likely cookie related. If you recently had cause to clear all of your web browser's cookies or were just routinely clearing all web browsing history (including cookies), then yes, this would log you out. Try and always make sure you see your username in the top menu of any wiki before posting. Should you have any login issues in the future, you can always e-mail system administrators at, and they'll be happy to look into it for/with you. Nevertheless, I have updated your signature above to reference your logged in username, and have revision deleted the intervening revisions. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 15:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Problem
How come everytime I try and give my new account user rights nothing works. What the heck is going on? I have no idea 2.0 (talk) 20:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. It's quite difficult to get what exactly the issue is from your message. Do you mean you have created a new account and are trying to assign rights to it? If so, on which wiki? And what do you mean by "nothing works"? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 20:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is possibly related to 's creating a second account in (permalink to discussion). If that's the case, then they would need to grant rights to their second account from the first account. If that's not the case, then we need more clarification here as  said. Dmehus (talk) 20:29, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Big delete
Hi! Please delete this. I can't do it myself because of bigdelete error. Thanks! MadriCR (talk) 06:43, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you for requesting this. A steward will respond to this request within a few days. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 06:45, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, per your request. The page is scheduled for deletion. Dmehus (talk) 03:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

502 error preventing me from adding activity to wiki
I cannot access pkvast.miraheze.org once logged in and I get either a 500 or a 502 error. I suspect this has to do with previous inactivity. Tznkai (talk) 17:23, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please advise if this issue is still ongoing. If so, then you will need to create a ticket on Phabricator for system administrators to investigate. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:42, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Issue is ongoing and I have opened a ticket. I am obviously unable to solve the inactivity problem --Tznkai (talk) 02:53, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, sorry to hear about the server-side 502 errors, but you did the right thing by opening a Phabricator ticket. This is now being handled at #T6551 on Phabricator. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 03:35, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Rotten Websites Wiki is restoring biased pages from Atrocious YouTubers Wiki
Here is evidence https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/Strawberry_Milk https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Real_Cost https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/Lily_Orchard https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/Memetastic and https://rottenwebsites.miraheze.org/wiki/YouTube_CommentersIvanTheGreat (talk) 19:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This will need more than that. Note that biased pages are not problematic. Unsourced, potentially libelous information is. I'd suggest you compose, offline, a substantive and exhaustive report to stewards on how the wiki is violating Content Policy and e-mail it to  as these ad nauseam two line reports on stewards' noticeboard are tiresome. Dmehus (talk) 20:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I guess you want your website filled with those reception wikis that ruin your reputation, that's fine with me. IvanTheGreat (talk) 20:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Just listen and add in great detail why they violate certain policies if you are sure they do. If you complain and use the wrong language to describe why these pages may be "bad" then you won't get anywhere. Be specific and explain why, instead of accusing people of wanting to keep possibly problematic wikis around when they said no such thing. If you want an outcome then work for it. Waldo (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

CheckUser Request for IvanTheGreat and Rolling1975
The reason why I am requesting this now is because both of them seem to be wanting our wikis gone so badly without any evidence of any kind, as some of you guys might be aware of what I'm talking about. Here are some clues that I have gathered to pinpoint who it might be: https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Stewards%27_noticeboard&oldid=149729 https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Stewards%27_noticeboard&oldid=141538 https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Community_noticeboard&oldid=141541 https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Stewards%27_noticeboard&oldid=141137 https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Stewards%27_noticeboard&oldid=141146

Is anyone noticing a pattern coming along here? If so, then those 2 users should be examined right away based on behavioral evidence that I have provided. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 20:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Anybody gonna respond to this? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 17:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * While I do see a lot of behavioural similarities in the users, I personally don't feel there's an urgency here since I warned IvanTheGreat on Meta, in my capacity as a Meta administrator not to continue is disruption and to abide by user accounts policy. If disruption continues, then perhaps there will be a greater need. And, of course, any steward may have a different opinion than me here, and can take any action as they feel is warranted. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:21, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Global lock request for "ネイ"

 * User:ネイ (CentralAuth)

This is a cross wiki abuse. Also, This account is spoofing on the kerokerowikiwwiki (The main page has been stolen from Tanukipedia, and this user is impersonating an administrator of Japanese Wikipedia.). Please lock this account. Schwarz ・ Talk /  ウソペディア  03:26, 5 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hopefully a staff member like or  will respond to your report as soon as possible. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 14:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * There's no need, really, to ping for these investigation reports on issues for which you were not involved. Stewards and Global Sysops have likely seen this thread. This will likely need further investigation, for which there would be several possible outcomes. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 14:39, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

requesting removal of bureaucrat rights for 2 users on DF wiki
per here I would like the bureaucrat rights of MyBlueDiamond and Kevbo182 to be removed.

As seen here Kevbo only requested sysop status so I believe Delta's giving them crat rights was a mistake.

I think that is also the case with MBD who has been inactive for over a year as seen here.

I recently removed Kevbo's rights for altering my block without explanation but I will be unable to enforce anything if they realize they can just re-promote themselves due to this oversight.

If Delta disagrees with this, they could of course repromote the users by retaining the crat rights, but I just think Delta has been busy or like me is unable to reverse the mistake, so has tried to avoid drawing attention to it.

That's mostly what I did until this recent editing conflict at which point I feel the need to reach out to ask for external intercession. ty 23:55, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Per my comment at Meta talk:Bureaucrats, Okay, this is by design, as intentionally, stewards are supposed to be called upon to remove the  bit from user(s) on the local wiki when requested on stewards' noticeboard. I was conferring with  on the course of action to take. Though not great that you took the action yourself, as I feel like steward review of the circumstances between the local dispute would've been helpful, it's probably okay, and it's good you reverted the change in Special:ManageWiki/permissions. To your last question, you can view changes performed in ManageWiki using Special:Log/managewiki. Dmehus (talk) 02:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Just a short bit of clarification here. If we didn't want bureaucrats to have the ability to remove other bureaucrats, then it just plain simply wouldn't be possible, even with ManageWiki access. We are fine with wikis setting up their permissions hierarchies in whatever way they see fit. However, we do reserve the right for community consensus (through some official moderation venue) to be able to overturn these structures and decisions (within reason). I don't actually see anything wrong with what you've done, nor is it objectionable. Although, if I do look at this issue from the community consensus side of things, it still does look appropriate, given that at least two other users complained about Kevbo's actions prior to removal, giving at least some precedence to the idea that this is supported by the community. -- Void  Whispers 18:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Two Requests Should Be Closed in RfP
Hello, there are two requests in RfP that should be closed. They have been there for more than a week. Thank you very much. R4356th (talk) 19:36, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, yes this been on my mind. I'm involved in both as a participant, and, while I've expressed a neutral view in one of them, will let another steward close them, so I'll alert them through private channels to close. Dmehus (talk) 22:39, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Great. Thank you very much. (Let's not mark this is as done yet.) R4356th (talk) 22:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)