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Никифор Калинов@polandballruwiki

 * Aphrodite: Thank you for the report and apologies for the delay. I can indeed confirm that Никифор Калинов and ContryBel are related. Not only that but Никифор Калинов also had several sockpuppet accounts, as listed below:
 * Winter-Own55
 * セージ
 * Ortodox1266
 * Frei728
 * !Bochkarev!
 * Ж.......
 * Розенфельдовец (Миша)
 * Ворона
 * Федерация
 * I have globally locked all of these accounts so there is no need to locally block them on your wiki. Additionally, I have also locked Никифор Калинов for this as their sockpuppets were evidently disruptive as many of them are locally blocked on your wiki. I have also globally blocked his IP range for a year so there should he should not be returning for a long time.
 * As for Invlad3452 and Луганский маппер, there is no data which links them together or to Никифор Калинов. If you have any questions, please let us know. Thank you for your report! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:17, 21 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Agent Isai, thanks for the answer! I want to inform you that Никифор Калинов bypasses the blocking from the new account, and does not even try to hide it. Can you please block him again? Aphrodite (talk) 15:15, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I have locked that new account. It seems he used a VPN to circumvent his global IP blocks so I have globally blocked all IPs by that VPN provider. Thank you for the report! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:08, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I saw their latest sockpuppets and I have locked both of them and I blocked all IPs used by their newest VPN provider. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:01, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

彗星はすい星です@ysmwikiwiki

 * I have performed a CheckUser and there is no clear technical evidence to match the users, except the same UA. There is clear behavioral evidence (WP:DUCK) that shows it's the same users. While they've only vandalised one wiki and minimally which would usually not warrant a global lock (as a block will be sufficient) given their usernames which clearly also indicate trolling I've decided to lock both accounts for violating the multiple account policy. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:10, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for check and lock this up. 1108-Kiju /Talk 00:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

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Sickminecraft45Wiki

 * Account that I don't need anymore. Sickminecraft45Wiki (talk) 09:08, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * BTW It's a legitimate alternative account that I crated for a wiki and I don't want that wiki and I don't need this account. Sickminecraft45Wiki (talk) 09:13, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be better to have someone run Special:RemovePII on the account if you want it deleted/want to stop using it? Collei (talk) 20:27, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:16, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:16, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

BallNutz

 * User has been vandalizing with nonsense and claims of "destroying" this wiki. I have a feeling that this may be an LTA, as I've had a user on one of my wikis with similar behavior. Tali64³ (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * User has been vandalizing with nonsense and claims of "destroying" this wiki. I have a feeling that this may be an LTA, as I've had a user on one of my wikis with similar behavior. Tali64³ (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ by MrJaroslavik. Tali64³ (talk) 15:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Lasagna

 * I don't need this account so please block it. Lasagna (talk) 14:03, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't need this account so please block it. Lasagna (talk) 14:03, 1 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Lasagna, can you please clarify whether you would like your account blocked on Meta Wiki (this wiki), globally locked (recoverable at a later date, provided you have a registered and confirmed e-mail address associated to the account and/or you remember your account credentials), or anonymized and renamed, with any personally identifying information stripped from the account (irreversible)? Dmehus (talk) 22:58, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

= Permissions =

Administrator/Bureaucrat access
{{Hidden|Instructions/Read before making a request| Use this section to request Stewards grant you local administrator or bureaucrat on a wiki without active/any bureaucrats (or unwilling bureaucrats if they refuse to certify a successful vote) following a local election. We normally don't grant permissions without a local election for advanced rights like this so you'll need to make a local election unless you accidentally demoted yourself.

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Commetia@customcountryhumanwiki
When I requested a CountryHumans OC Wiki, it was declined saying that there was already one. When I tried to contact the owner, (using the link given) the Main Page was deleted. I tried to contact the owner/Bureau, but it kept saying that my edits were going to show publicly once it was approved.) I used a little trick I know to find them on other Wikis, and I contacted them on a very active Wiki. (They have only made five Global Edits, four of them on the Wiki

That was four days ago, and no answer. I gave them very big details on what I would want, and what I would do.

(When the Wiki was declined, it said that I could request to become an Admin on Wiki if it wasn't active.)

What I'm saying is that I would like to become an Admin or even a new Bureaucrat, and "Adopt" the Wiki.

Link to Wiki:

Link to talk: Commetia (talk) 14:00, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Please follow the process outlined on the Local elections page to gain Bureaucrat rights on that wiki
 * --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 22:14, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

I would like to run a local election, but I cannot edit on that Wiki. It always says when you press Save Changes,

"PENDING REVIEW

'''Success: your edit has been sent to moderation. You can continue editing your version of this page."'''

This happens with every edit I make; so I can't actually edit the Wiki. So, where would I have the election, and is there a way you can shut that off? (So other users who would want to edit and I could edit) Commetia (talk) 23:41, 27 January 2023 (UTC)


 * At this point, private/niche wiki rules for local elections may need to apply... hmmm.
 * @Agent Isai and @Reception123, thoughts?
 * TL;DR:
 * User's request was denied under CP11 as duplicate of wiki scope
 * Existing wiki has had no major content added since creation, but wiki is still live
 * Owner of existing wiki is non-responsive
 * Existing wiki is public, but Moderation extension prevents running of a local election
 * --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 00:08, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I should note that my genshinimpact.miraheze.org wiki was approved, despite technically being a duplicate of genshin.miraheze.org, due to the genshin.miraheze.org wiki being entirely abandoned and having no contributions, along with having a vague/incorrect subdomain and name. Collei (talk) 00:53, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've turned off Moderation and also approved all your edits beforehand. Let us know if you need anything else. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:21, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, I have put the election on the Main Page. I have also sent the link to some people who said that they had interest. What do you think I should do when the election has "ended"? Should I message you the results? 《Commetian_Empire》 (talk) 17:10, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I believe so. Collei (talk) 22:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Zes M Young@pgrfmwiki
I was not added into the bureaucrat and sysop user groups after my wiki https://pgrfm.miraheze.org/ was created. Also, the default mainpage was not created. Zes M Young (talk) 06:49, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

これって新しく節作った方が良いかもしれませんが便乗させて頂きます. 私もsysopとbureaucratに入れてもらえなかったのですがそういうバグでしょうか?いじめの一種でしょうか?元々申請しなきゃいけないものなんでしょうか?--野菜って大事だよね (talk) 06:59, 27 January 2023 (UTC) translation: Perhaps I should create a new section to comment on this, but I had a similar problem and would like to report it in this section. I am not getting sysop and bureaucrat privileges on the new wiki, is this bullying? --1108-Kiju /Talk 22:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)


 * So, firstly, I would just like to say it is not bullying. I promise that we're not intentionally removing you from the bureaucrat roles. There is currently an issue with our CreateWiki code. Until that issue is resolved, wiki creations were meant to be on hold so errors like yours didn't occur. Your wiki was created in error, and now it's completely blank. In a few hours, we'll begin the process of fixing all these wikis and their permissions. I would like to sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused. I completely understand that it's odd and confusing, I promise we'll have more information (and a fix) soon. If you need anything, please feel free to reply to this topic or leave a message on my talk page. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 07:08, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * なるほど. バグということですか. 権限付与は気長にお待ちしますね. 自分のウィキであることに変わりはないですしね. 返信ありがとうございます. ところで、英語の母語話者と見ますが、日本語読めてるんですね. 馬鹿にしてるんじゃなく. グーグルの翻訳が不正確なだけなのかしら. まあ、どうでもよいことよ. --野菜って大事だよね (talk) 07:31, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * translation: I see. So there was a bug like that. I'll wait until I can do it until I get permission. Even if I don't have the permission, it is still my wiki. --1108-Kiju /Talk  22:49, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Haha I've been using Google Translate. Evidently, it hasn't been working great. Anywho, yes, it is just a bug. Hopefully it is resolved soon, and you'll definitely have your rights on the wiki as soon as possible. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 07:41, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Cocopuff2018@famepediawiki
Hello, my request for bureaucrat has been a successful request and i am requesting for a steward to grant me bureaucrat. More than 3 months have passed btw. Cocopuff2018 (talk) 12:45, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You should ask the local wiki bureaucrats to do that. This one appears active: https://en.famepedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sunilbutolia Collei (talk) 21:52, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I would like stewards to do it (: Cocopuff2018 (talk) 07:20, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Unless the appropriate wiki authorities are inactive, Stewards generally decline to get involved with local issues. There shouldn't be a problem with requesting that the active bureaucrat fulfill your request. Happy to pitch in if needed. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 07:27, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ask Sunil to do it first. Stewards generally only get involved where there's no active bureaucrats and Sunil seems to be active. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:52, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Flubberschnub@nyctocosmwiki
I held an election for bureaucrat permissions (I also originally requested the wiki but it seems I don't have bureaucrat perms). Would be great if someone could take a look at the election (linked) and grant me access to be able to make bigger changes to the wiki. Thanks! Flubberschnub (talk) 20:18, 27 January 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:13, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

BugCatcher2019@guichuwiki
Well, there is no another user in this wiki, so I can't take an election. As the creator of this wiki (but I forget the password of my previous account which created this wiki), I make a statement of the appointment of the bureaucrat, and the link is above. Now I want to serve as the bureaucrat in this wiki, please. BugCatcher2019 (talk) 11:13, 29 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Please also send a message to Korbsov on their talk page on the wiki to inform them of that election and let 7 days pass. If no one opposes, I will grant you the rights. Thank you! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * done. But actually Korbsov is just myself, but I forget the password of the account Korbsov, so now I register the account BugCatcher2019. I think no one will oppose because it seems that there is no another user in this wiki except myself. BugCatcher2019 (talk) 17:24, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

NiVol@pianohistorywiki
Hi! Lost access to wiki after an upgrade of the Miraheze wiki engine in January! I'm the only creator and reader of this wiki yet. NiVol (talk) 15:15, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

KumihoWolffey@kingdomwiki
On January 24th, 2023, I have hosted a local election to become a bureaucrat and an administrator on an abandoned wiki, Cookie Run: Kingdom Wiki, although I didn't mention when it will end, the election ends in 7 days, however it been past 7 days. I would like to have bureaucrat and administrator rights on the wiki due to inactive administrators. Thank you. Financier (talk༆) 17:45, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Other access
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Ghost Taker@motorhoaxwiki
Per this removal diff, user deleted all local roles and needs rebuild of roles + reassignment of bureaucrat/admin rights. NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 14:05, 26 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Pinging @Agent Isai and @Reception123 when they have a moment, as I think this one got lost in the shuffle.
 * --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 17:20, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Removal
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Pérola Maniaco@destriupediawiki
Bem, um amigo meu me deu status Burocrata na Destruipedia, mas eu não desejo ter uma responsabilidade tão alta assim, apesar que eu ainda possa ser sysop apenas para moderação f&%$k. Infelizmente não consigo remover eu mesmo o status de burocrata, algum staff global poderia remover isso para mim?

Translation: Well, a friend of mine gave me Bureaucrat status in Destruipedia, but I don't want to have such a high responsibility, although i can still be sysop just for f&%$k moderation. Unfortunately I can't remove the bureaucrat status myself, could some global staff remove it for me? Pérola Maniaco (talk) 23:23, 21 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm still waiting for a response from someone. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 13:11, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Moved to the Stewards noticeboard. AN is reserved for activities on Meta. This page (Stewards' noticeboard) typically is for things that require Steward intervention. --Blad  (talk • contribs • global) 16:48, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I did not know that. Thank you very much for the move and the warning. Now it's just waiting for a response, but I feel that it will be easy to solve my case, since I'm only asking for the removal of my "tool". Pérola Maniaco (talk) 14:17, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

'''Where are the Staff to judge my request? Are you on vacation by any chance?''' Pérola Maniaco (talk) 12:40, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Probably, granted it's around the holidays. Rest assured, they will eventually tackle this request. --Blad  (talk • contribs • global) 15:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:15, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Agent Isai@antcruzwiki
It I probably could've just messaged you on Discord, but I wanted to try out this template, and this gives you something to link to in your log summary. It looks like you might be done with the Oversight on, as I couldn't find any reference to the wiki having been placed under any sort of Steward custodianship as a result of Content Policy violations. I suspect this was just a minor oversight (pardon the pun). ;) Dmehus (talk) 05:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

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Chouverse Wiki

 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 08:11, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Lớp học Mật Ngữ: Fanon Wiki

 * This wiki was deleted on August 5, 2022. You will need to request that it be restored on Phabricator. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:43, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Imaginary History Wiki/Chrisipedia

 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:18, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

TimeWisely

 * There appears to be a typo in the domain name, the domain name is "skyewiki.miraheze.org" not skyewikiwiki.miraheze.org unsure if I'm suppose to edit it, so I think I should just comment it here. Kind regards, Chloe. (talk) 23:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about if you're mooching off of Miraheze's resources. That's what Miraheze is for: free wiki hosting. If you'd like to support Miraheze, you can donate to it. If you can't, then you can contribute by helping out other users on the Community noticeboard. Tali64³ (talk) 00:13, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * We're very sad to see you go but we understand. We wish you the best in your future endeavors! ✅. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:36, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Indoctrinated Wiki

 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Anothername's Infodump

 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 07:39, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

The New Reception Wiki

 * Will you be working alone or also be helped by other users? In addition, if this is approved the wiki would remain private until Stewards verify that that is done.
 * Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 21:24, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, I will be working alone. Also that's fine if it will be private. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 21:28, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I have asked this before but before agreeing to this, please also clearly describe what the scope for the wiki will be. Something like "just a general reception wiki for miscellaneous topics" would not really be acceptable, it would have to be less vague. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:28, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It is a reception wiki that generally focuses on content that can't be on other reception wikis. I plan to use it to revive pages from the old wiki. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 20:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * That's still too vague. You could list the topics that your wiki would cover to be more specific. Tali64³ (talk) 22:45, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if this was a recreation from a previous deletion or not, but if I remember correctly, the two most active bureaucrats on that wiki, who were also its most active community members, supported deletion. So you would likely need to gain the consensus of at least one of them. One of them was VosVosKitsune, but I don't remember the name of the other one off hand. Dmehus (talk) 22:48, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The wiki in question was a recreation of a previous wiki that was shut down by its administration. Money12123, the user who made the undeletion request in this thread, was the founder of the recreation. Tali64³ (talk) 22:50, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hrm, I'm not sure it should've ever been recreated in this case. The only advantage to that would be to use the same subdomain, and that's a pretty weak reason to justify undeletion, particularly if the administration of both the original and its recreation supported deletion. I would recommend Money12123 request a new wiki, articulate a clear purpose and scope for the wiki, as suggested by Reception123, and move forward. Dmehus (talk) 22:55, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, Money can't request a new wiki. The creation of new reception wikis was prohibited per this RfC, so even if he did, there's no chance it would be created unless the ban was overturned by community vote, which is unlikely.
 * The closure of the recreation wasn't done with the support of its administration. It was closed for Content Policy violations because it was forking content from Qualitipedia when it was still technically readable. This thread is asking to undelete the wiki so that all the policy-violating content could be removed and the wiki reopened. Tali64³ (talk) 23:01, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's true. While that RfC had a weak consensus in favour with respect to proposal 2, which Agent Isai noted in his close, because there's no definition of what is a Reception wiki, that does not mean a wiki similar to a Reception wiki could not be created. I think in broad terms what the community is saying is they don't simply want wikis created that merely copy/paste content from other wikis and whose purpose set up to merely express personal opinions on why a certain is the most awful or sooo awesome. Someone that wanted to create a wiki, though, that discussed, in a largely objective and neutral fashion, the advantages and disadvantages of would still be permitted, based on my read of the RfC and Agent Isai's interpretation. As to the second point, that was indeed a valid reason for closure, then. :) Dmehus (talk) 23:09, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * After that RfC was closed, a discussion occurred on what a reception wiki was (archive). It was decided that a reception wiki was a wiki that lists the reasons why a product was good/bad/average, with the good and bad reasons separated into two headers and reception wikis usually being in a positive/negative pair. The RfC banned the creation of any wikis that fall under the above description, including wikis that fall under what you described. However, it would not include wikis that are set up like review sites (each article has several sections criticizing/praising each part of the product separately, with each section set up like a paragraph instead of a list); for example, if the Bad Webcomics Wiki decided to migrate to Miraheze, there would be no issues in it doing so. Although its scope (to explain why certain webcomics are bad) and name are similar to reception wikis, it's different enough from them to not be considered a reception wiki. Tali64³ (talk) 23:21, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * and Something I should also mention is that I'm pretty sure only Maddox121 (the founder of the original New Reception Wiki) was involved in the closure, and other bureaucrats did not get a say and I believe were even fired as part of the closing process. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 23:28, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, Maddox121 was the other bureaucrat I was thinking of, and they were one of the ones that supported the original closure. Dmehus (talk) 23:30, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Astronomy Wiki Database

 * Since you mention merging, have you already retrieved an XML dump for the wiki? --Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 21:25, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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chakurikiwiki

 * If I understand correctly, this wiki is used to discuss among members of the chakuwiki community whenever there's issues with the main wiki? If so I'm not convinced that would be something that would be eligible for a Dormancy Policy exemption as it doesn't seem the content of such a wiki would be valuable to be 'read by users' if it's sort of a backup wiki. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 21:02, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Ucronias Wiki

 * ✅ Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 10:03, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Reception123, no, it is not enabled --Hispano76 (talk) 16:03, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Reception123, Void, you can re-enable the Cargo extension in my Wiki, because of the November bug it was disabled. --Hispano76 (talk) 22:24, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:39, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Constant Noble

 * I'm not seeing that extension in the extension list. Extensions are requested on Phabricator in case you're requesting it. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:58, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Filed (after little more than a week's delay) at T10435. --Routhwick (talk) 15:48, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

The Rain Rouge Fan Fiction Wiki

 * Bumping/replying so that someone else sees this in the recent changes feed, looks like a request that should be reviewed Collei (talk) 19:31, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:37, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

removededm.ml

 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:40, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

One More Gate Wiki

 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:41, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

NBDb
= Wiki reports =

Real Life Villains Wiki Potential Content Policy Violations?
At least 95% of the pages on there, do not have a source for reference. Considering that this wiki also features Internet users, I believe the wikis need to be warned for not having references to what they did wrong (EX: News report, or Wikipedia info) and they should delete pages that do not have sources. Nidoking (talk) 19:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Moved to wiki reports. --Blad  (talk • contribs • global) 20:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with Nidoking, there are some pages throwing the kind of accusations you don't want to throw without solid references. Some sanction is in order. OrangeStar (talk) 21:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The content of that wiki can ruin innocent people's lives if a claim about a person is untrue. Dimpizzy (talk) 03:00, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you provide some examples? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:22, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * There are various pages on there that don't have any references at all, like this page for example https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Jake_Martin and https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Heather_Martin Nidoking (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Any update? Nidoking (talk) 14:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * All the wiki really. When it covers relatively unknown living people being accused of stuff like child abuse, murder, and all that, it shouldn't assume that these are common knowledge, they should include solid references for such claims. OrangeStar (talk) 19:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe at this juncture it would be ideal to raise the idea locally and see how receptive local managers are to cleaning up sources. Seeing how willing they are on this in public could give Stewards some ground to raise this topic as a priority if their intervention is required. --Raidarr (talk) 15:42, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll give that a try. OrangeStar (talk) 19:33, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Listen, what the wikis say will be heard of, and people will use that as their source much more than anything else.
 * If you're gonna go out of your way to get a wiki meant to educate people about real life villains and why people should not be them, then that means you are enabling bad people. RoboticBloxxer (talk) 17:34, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The concern raised here is that the wiki is mostly unsourced. Given that it has many articles dealing with people, this could be a potential violation of CP 3 (and anyway, ignoring whatever the policy may say, it's best to include sources for the claims in any article whenever it's dealing with real life stuff, be it living people or other things). It's not our intention to enable bad people. OrangeStar (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * To be honest it looks like you missed a few words and that muddles the point you were making but I assume you are implying that people trying to hold the wiki accountable are enabling bad people.
 * The problem with 'what the wikis say will be heard of' is that 'heard of' is literally hearsay. I can make up whatever crap I want and put it on the wiki. As long as it's obscure or I can whip out minority arguments/political buzzwords to support it, it's good and with the right timing it probably won't be challenged. If there wasn't a wide internet with thorough and better backed up information that demonstrates why people are 'bad' (between more objective sources as Wikipedia with a deliberate neutral tone, and blogs/journalism going into the nasty details), perhaps your implication of social benefit would hold more value. But it doesn't. The wiki brings little overall benefit and even less so if it's too lazy to back itself up and it's a sludge of what people think or remember. Your post enables and excuses lazy writing that can just as well enable harassment. That is the concern involved here.
 * If 'look just google it' is what you are implying as the reason to sustain the wiki then you've failed to even demonstrate why the wiki should exist. If arbitrary 'oh I heard about it' is good enough to sustain the wiki content then it might as well be closed now. I'd rethink this approach.
 * I'm probably going to be gone by the time you reply, so this is my final 2c on the matter. I don't even think the wiki is quite that much of a problem to warrant closure or direct intervention but your "defense" here does a disservice. --Raidarr (talk) 13:09, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * That wiki must be closed due to lack of management and any other problems. Also there already Wikipedia which had more accurate information. Nirmanyu9 (talk) 22:49, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Real Life Villains Wiki has just been made private by Agent Isai to give its bureaucrats and administrators a chance to fix its issues (log action). Tali64³ (talk) 11:44, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * So, this thread is resolved now. Nidoking (talk) 17:34, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Spam report for inactive wiki
https://cpi.miraheze.org/wiki/Spesial_Guest - this is spam, created on a wiki which has only one inactive sysop. The sysop has not edited since their 3 edits on June 2022, and their similarly small group of edits throughout 2019, 2020, and 2021. I believe that the page should be deleted as spam. Collei (talk) 00:45, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Can confirm what said. This page seems to be in violation of Section I of the Miraheze Content Policy. If the services provided turn out to be a scam, this could also be in violation of Section VIII of the Content Policy. Don't know if we let it sit since it's not too big of a deal, but definitely seems shifty to me. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 04:51, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, if it turns out to be a scam, it could violate "Miraheze does not host any content that is illegal in the United Kingdom", because it's, well, fraud. Collei (talk) 07:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This thread has been moved from a completely unrelated one. Tali64³ (talk) 11:55, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not reporting the wiki, just the specific page. It says that you can use this page to request global sysop intervention, and I'm requesting global sysop intervention to delete spam. Collei (talk) 16:51, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

= Discussion closure =

= Miscellaneous =

Issue with the AMYTW staff
On mh:amazingyoutubers:Amazing YouTubers Wiki, the staff are, in my opinion, rather lacking in competence and are not very reasonable. To be specific on this story, when Qualitipedia was on the verge of closing, DuchesstheSponge, a bureaucrat who had not contributed to the wiki in a year, attempted to close the wiki. After two failed attempts, he, for whatever reason, decided to abandon his plan to shut down the wiki and started legitimately contributing to it - however, I can't say the moderating has been particularly legitimate. Not long after returning to contributing, he edited the SMG4 page and removed "War of the Fat Italians 2021" from the list of good episodes and moved it to the list of bad episodes without any good explanation - he just said "fuck WOTFI 2021". When a user reverted this, he reverted them and gave no further reasoning to his actions. In addition to this, he also created a page on the SML video "Jeffy's 18th Birthday," which I put up for deletion because I felt it would fit better on Terrible SML Videos Wiki. However, Duchess reverted my edit with no explanation. I then created a topic on his talk page, questioning these two edits along with his apparent rule about the necessity of plainlinks, but he ignored me for a while, before eventually deleting the topic because it was "making him uncomfortable," which, to me, is just pure ignorance.

Meanwhile, thePCGamer, an administrator, is another staff member who has shown a lack of competence. Before DuchesstheSponge even closed the thread mentioned above, they marked the thread as resolved before Duchess could even answer, even though it was not their concern what was going on. Although I cannot prove exactly what they said due to Duchess deleting the topic, I believe their reasoning for closing the thread was that I was "annoying everyone," even though I was asking Duchess questions I believe are important. When I added a second topic about Duchess' behaviour due to his previous complete ignorance, thePCGamer again closed it, questioning why I had to keep asking questions when Duchess doesn't want to reply, and my reasoning why I have to do that is because there is no good reason he doesn't want to reply - it is realistically laziness. After a while, they blocked me because I am asking questions that "nobody seems to care about". When another user questioned this, they claimed that I stalked someone with no evidence, and also used many of the same lazy excuses they and Duchess constantly use. Raidarr and other users thankfully defended me, though thePCGamer has not yet ended their tactics, as they have again closed a thread unrelated to them since.

Pacsonic9000, the owner of AMYTW, although not as bad as Duchess and thePCGamer, still has their issues. They added me to the admin blacklist because I was "annoying" and thought that links and images don't qualify as evidence (which I have reasons for, also I never said links don't qualify as evidence), and also later said I had stalked Duchess (which again, there is no evidence of) and "made him uncomfortable" (which is quite pathetic) and also criticised me for adding Duchess' rant to the New Reception Wiki, which proves that they cannot handle people criticising Duchess, and also called me out on trying to revive Qualitipedia even though the RFC did not directly prevent people from doing that, nor did it necessarily attempt to do so. They also deleted a topic on their talk page questioning their actions, and marked a thread as resolved because I was "annoying," even though the thread was months ago anyway.

I am reporting this here because I have not been able to make any negotiations with the staff, and therefore I now see the only option is reporting it here. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 00:01, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I should also note I opened a discussion regarding their rights (this), but that has generated little discussion, despite a topic notice being posted on PCGamer and Duchess' talk page. --Blad  (talk • contribs • global) 20:17, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Do you have any comment here? Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 23:18, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you're asking us to do here. Either way, the general rule is that local communities are responsible for electing their own administrators and Stewards would only intervene in internal matters if it's serious enough. Though these seem to be separate incidents which involve discretion so I'm not sure what Stewards could do, especially not knowing the policies and conventions on that specific wiki. What I would suggest would be to try to ask the users you mention to reply to this thread and explain their side of the story/explain why they took the actions they did. Otherwise I would note that administrators are accountable to their communities and shouldn't in any case try dismiss or hide dissent just because it makes them "uncomfortable". Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:10, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt that would work. ThePCGamer constantly marks threads made my me as resolved even if it's another admin's thread and they don't request for it to be closed, and the other two are still likely to just resolve the subject with no direct response. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 00:42, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Warn them against closing threads without valid reason and tell them Stewards are aware. Should they close another thread invalidly for the sake of suppressing local legitimate feedback, raise it up in this thread and we'll send them a message. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:45, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That's reasonable, I suppose. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 23:03, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Pacsonic has banned me. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 01:22, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Agent Isai This is a bump. Collei (talk) 16:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 22:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * They're probably alerting Agent Isai to this thread, since it hadn't received a reply in a few days and that mentioning a user by name alerts them. It's the same principle as your posting of "Hello?" when one of your threads doesn't receive a reply in over a week. Tali64³ (talk) 23:05, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Tali64³ is correct. Collei (talk) 00:11, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Issue regarding Qualitipedia
I noticed that all of the Qualitipedia wikis are now deleted. I have a couple of problems with this: Could you please do something about this? Thanks, Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 20:44, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Usually, wikis are deleted within six months of closure. The Qualitipedia wikis were closed on September 27, 2022, and I first noticed this deletion on January 23, 2023, which was probably January 22, 2023 in British time, which is only three months and five days.
 * 2) This includes Qualitipedia Meta, which was not even closed and there were still things to be done there. If you had at least just closed it, I wouldn't have such a problem, but I feel the content there is important and I was hoping it could eventually be moved to New Qualitipedia, which probably will not happen now, since you usually can't collect a dump file from a deleted wiki.
 * 3) I was in the middle of archiving things on the Qualitipedia wikis so I had information about the wikis and could use it when necessary, and now I cannot do that.
 * The RfC closure mandated it remain open for at least 3 months (this including Qualitipedia Central). As three months had passed, it was deleted as it was felt that that was more than enough time to archive whatever was needed and to download the XML dumps. The XML dumps are still live on Archive.org if you wish to download them. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:31, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, it should have been closed first so we at least had more of a warning. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 00:05, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The wikis have been closed for the past few months, as you noted since September 27. Wikis closed are able to be deleted per system administrator discretion, barring community consensus on certain topics. 3 months had passed, as the RfC mandated, on December 27, 2022, and the wikis could be deleted by SRE at any point without warning after that date. The XML dumps are still available on archive.org, as noted by . Our apologies for the inconvenience caused. If you require any further assistance, please feel free to reach out on my talk page. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 04:14, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I was talking about Qualitipedia Meta. It was never closed. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 20:35, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * All QP wikis had been closed. It was common sense that QP Meta would follow suit soon enough. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 04:02, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I feel it should have at least been closed and then deleted three months later. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 23:10, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I get that. However, what's done is done, and it was done with the consultation of the Qualitipedia community and at the discretion of Stewards. This discussion doesn't really have more to add other than venting, so I suggest we end it here. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 23:43, 25 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Shutting down Qualitipedia wikis was the most appropriate step for Miraheze, and the vast majority of the Miraheze community wanted it to happen, and it happened. Normally I am against closing wikis, but I would like to say that I strongly support closing wikis where there is chaos, fighting and apathy. As other users have said, you can get the XML dump of Qualitipedia from archive.org and move it to your own wiki or another wiki farm. As a result, Qualitipedia was a chaotic wiki and Qualitipedia was closed by Local RfC vote. If Qualitipedia is reopened, I don't want it to be reopened because I think it is chaos again. Best regards, Hey Türkiye  Message? 19:57, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Dude, that wasn't the point of this discussion. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 21:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)