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DarkMatterMan4500 (Wiki creator)
User: DarkMatterMan4500 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: Considering that I was recommended this permission 6 months ago by a Steward in any other permissions I could choose from, I've been thinking about this for a while. Of course I would like to help Miraheze in a way that everyone is welcome, given the fact that I have been here for over a year, and made myself very well known, so I'm basically ready if necessary.

Additional comments: My only concern is that there are many requested wikis having problematic issues, and even people requesting problematic or substantiated hateful wikis, which is something I should take into consideration. (For clarification, there has been recent incidents about problematic wikis.)

What would you do in the following situations? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 20:42, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Questions
 * 1) A Public wiki that says: "Terrible Websites Wiki - a wiki that lists websites that we find horrible and explains why they're so awful"
 * 2) A private wiki that says: "Wiki for a personal project with me and my friends"?
 * 3) How about a request for a public wiki that says: "Fantasy World Wiki - We're moving away from Fandom because we prefer no ads, see our Fandom site here: x.fandom.com"?
 * 4) A public wiki that says: "Obnoxious Bloggers Wiki - a wiki that lists bloggers and explains why we think they're obnoxious and terrible people"
 * 5) A wiki that has the same topic as another wiki but says in the description "The administrators of the other wiki blocked me for no reason so I want to create my own version"

DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Answers
 * 1) Depends on which subject it's being talked about: However, since we're on the specifics, I would decline them and have them specify what their purposes of their wikis will be. Also, if a wiki was going to be problematic, then I'd decline it right away and tell them the reason why.
 * 2) Just like with my answer for number one, I would like to have them specify the reasons behind that to avoid problematic and/or Code of Conduct or Content policy violations.
 * 3) If the paragraph looks good enough, then I'd accept the request, but if it's not good enough, I'd have them go back and edit their request. (I have clarified what I meant below after Reception123 brought up an interesting point on both #3 and #5.)
 * 4) I'd decline that as that would be a problematic Code of Conduct/Content policy violation, as I wouldn't allow a wiki to create problems for our wiki farms.
 * 5) I'd obviously decline it as we don't need duplicate wikis, but on rare cases, I would want them to specify what their purposes of their wikis are.
 * Could you perhaps give us more details for the 3rd one, what would a paragraph that looks "good enough" and a paragraph that is "not good enough" look like to you? For the 5th one, it would rather be appropriate to check if the user has tried to mediate the situation on the main wiki. The CP says "a direct fork of another Miraheze wiki where little to no attempts have been made to mediate situations on the existing wiki or existing community" so that implies that a fork could be allowed if attempts have been made to mediate the situation and they have failed. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:58, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks for bringing that up. I should've been more clear on #3 and #5. For number 5 (in no particular order), any forks to other wikis are indeed acceptable if all else fails, with a few exceptions along those lines. (You're right about that one.) And as for #3, I'm referring to the ones that should add 2-3 sentences in details, and by not good enough, I'm referring to people adding in very lazy writing or didn't put any thought into writing a wiki request. In other words, that wouldn't really be acceptable to accept as a wiki request. I hope that clarifies that for you, and is more clear. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:42, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarifying. That prompts me to ask an additional question. What if someone requested a private wiki and the description was "This wiki will be for the purpose of organising my personal diary"? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 14:06, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, that would be suspicious, but assuming good-faith, I'd ask them to provide specifics making sure they aren't going to breach the Code of Conduct and/or Content policies. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:09, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments
 * Why not? I wanted to suggest this to you today - crazy, --MrJaroslavik (talk) 18:06, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Wait, you were going to suggest this to me? I mean, a user did suggest this to me earlier in September 2020, so I've been thinking about this for a few weeks, boiling down to this moment now. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:09, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Are we able to vote now?  Wiki JS  18:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can! Reception123 just asking questions before he vote on the request. HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 18:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I think that the user is trusted for this role, and the response on questions above is okay. HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 19:08, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Why thank you for the kind response. I'll honor that once there's more than enough votes via consensus. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:38, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * He seems like he knows his stuff. He does have potential, and I will be hoping to see him with the role, and he is a well known member in the community, so I believe he's trusted. His answers are fairly well. I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be a wiki creator. Wiki JS  19:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

WikiJS (Wiki creator)
User: WikiJS ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: I would like to be a Wiki creator, as I understand the code of conduct very well, and I am good at assuming good faith. I have not broken the Code of Conduct, Dormancy Policy, and Content Policies and I have good relations with this community. I will be active while I have the user right, and I believe this job can work well with me.

Additional comments: I'm fine with any results, and I will try my hardest with the user right if I get it.

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * Know the CoC is good, but as a Wiki creator, you should also know the Content Policy, and your activity on Meta is too recent for I can decide me, so I not really inclined to support this for now, but if you want, you can reach a other wiki creators for asking to a mentorship. HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 19:24, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah 5/4 months on miraheze isn't too much, but still trying to give it a shot. Wiki JS  19:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * WikiJS I cancel my vote for now per a request of someone, I have maybe vote a little too fast and I have not tried to assume good-faith of this request, so I will wait (or if I have time, try to ask you some questions to you otherwise someone else will do it) and I will vote when questions was answered. HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 19:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Mention CoC which is not very related to WC permission, but do not mention knowledge of DP/CP is not cool, so oppose.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 19:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I do understand Dormant Policy, and I have read the Content Policy (Linked with HeartsDo's post).  Wiki JS  20:08, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Like I get what you're saying, like Wiki Creators should know the dormancy and content policies. Wiki JS  20:12, 12 March 2021 (UTC)