Talk:Miraheze

Security Question
Hey, I saw the TLS thingy and I don't know if my browsers are updated, but I do have TLSv2 and updated Mozilla (My Google Chrome is set to auto update itself). So, will my computer and browsers be able to past the new security?

I also have Microsoft Edge. Please help, I don't know how to read the scan results.

Could we add a link to the list of wikis on the home page?
I'm not even sure where the link is, but it would be nice to have a link to the list of wikis.
 * The link would be Special:SiteMatrix but I'm hoping we manage to improve it (so it's not mediawiki-specific). -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 20:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It would be nice add a few columns to the report if you get a chance to improve it. Date Started, count of Main Page Updates, Pages, maybe wiki owner? Robert
 * The extension is currently wikimedia specific and developed by others. Including this information (even if we already had the information) would be a lot more work. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:07, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Robert

Main Page update
I put a sample of the main page update here:


 * https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Test_main_page

I couldn't remember where the language for the Donate section is so I just left it blank.

I replaced the word wikis with this wikis wiki text

Wiki Analysis
I was able to download the main page of all 695 wikis into a single zip file.

What would be the useful information to parse out of each page?:


 * Last Update
 * wiki title


 * PS the wiki title on main pages is created automatically, but is done using the variable, so I'm not sure if it works for you or not. Also, I don't believe that the last edit to the main page is an accurate representation of when a wiki was last updated. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:48, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know if there's anything useful to be gotten out of s automatically.  Maybe to see if they still have the default front page -- that might be useful to know.  Now, if you meant a manual parse using your wetware, it would be great to have a one-sentence summary of what the wiki is about.  It would be nice to have something with more content than just Special:SiteMatrix.  Maybe we do something like our own version of SiteMatrix, and get each wiki to write a summary about itself -- possibly as a message page.  That would be neat.  (And I do realize that by "we" I'm saying "me") Vorticity (talk) 01:12, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll try to get to the summary of what the wikis are about by time. I'll look at 20 or so of them to see if automation or getting more people to help is the easiest way forward. I'll also pull up all the history pages to see if I can parse out the logins of the people who have changed the wikis. Essentially I'm reverse engineering a contact list for the site.
 * Oh ya I also make a page for analysis wiki you can help or add from Special:Sitematrix, I made for easyly wacth action guest on the wiki and development a wiki and also see how many people was contributing. Do you support? see this

Regards – TriX Message!  03:59, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

add link to homepage
Add link publictestwiki.com for newbie before request a wiki?How?TriX (talk) 11:41, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, that would be useful, but TestWiki isn't really the "official TestWiki" of Miraheze. What do you say? Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:48, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay :)TriX (talk) 11:54, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Donation section
Can someone add a donations section to the Main Page?

Maybe below the Contact us IRC: #miraheze (recommended) Facebook: Miraheze Twitter: @miraheze On-wiki: Help center section?

Donations

for details on how to make a donation, please see the Donate page.

Wondering how your donations have been used? Look at the Finance page.

Thanks! --Robert Sterbal 412-977-3526


 * There is already this besides the Contact Us where it says Contributing and please sign your posts with ~ . Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 13:42, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Where will the incident review be published?
"Miraheze has completed the database server migration. All wikis should be working as usual now, and Miraheze will work on publishing an explanation of this incident soon."

where will the incident be published?
 * Tech:Incidents as all other major incidents are reported at. John (talk) 21:11, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Since the 1.28 upgrade, has been implemented. As the name suggests, it shows the current number of wikis that Miraheze is hosting. I think it would be a good idea to include this on the Main Page. Any ideas on where it could go on the Main Page? Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:58, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I created a draft here. MacFan4000 (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 13:58, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The draft proposed by MacFan is good! ImBoPhil (talk) 16:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I did also add a news item about updating to MW 1.28. MacFan4000 (talk) 13:48, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks great. If there are no objections from the community this would be a good addition to the main page (inc the 1.28 update news item). Borderman   talk 13:58, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Added. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 15:38, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

The cost of downtime
There are quite a few costs associated with downtime.

Some are easy to guesstimate, others are not.

Since Miraheze is a service, there is an implied data loss to people not being able to add to their wikis.

To reduce data loss of existing data a robust process of backup and recovery needs to be documented and implemented. The backup process should help both the sysadmins recover the system, and allow the users of the system to back up and recover data on their own.

A discussion of downtime should happen either on wiki or in a widely promoted forum, not in a ticket tracking system.

Adding new categories for easier navigation
I have noticed whilst browsing the site that there seems to be a few pages without categories. Was this intentional from the onset or have some categories been overlooked? I only ask because I use categories extensively for better navigation and believe that pages on Miraheze could possibly be overlooked by users because they are not always easy to find. Does anyone have any concerns if I created a few categories and if no, are there any objections to having a top-level category accessible from a link in the sidebar? I thought I would ask first just in case it was deemed a bad idea. Borderman  talk 21:51, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Feel free to create any categories that you feel are necessary. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:22, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For the time being I have made a start in tidying up the user language categories. In a few days time I'll continue to go through the existing categories and then the wanted categories. I am sure there are categories in there that aren't really needed. If acceptable, will you add a link to Category:Miraheze in the sidebar (or if not the sidebar, another prominent location of your choosing) for easier access to this top-level category? Cheers. Borderman   talk 22:30, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Category:Miraheze seems like a really good idea. Maybe some community members can suggest where this should be added. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 10:51, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Revi came up with the Category:Miraheze, however, it needed populating. If there are no suggestions in the next week or so as to where a link to this top-level category would be best suited, could a Meta Administrator place it in the menu? As categories are used for navigation, could it possibly go in the navigation menu under Random Page? Or is that too prominent a location?  Borderman   talk 23:05, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, I originally created a basic category hierarchy under Category:Miraheze (I only remember creating Tech and Requests. And meh.), and I think the spot below "About Miraheze" in the sidebar is the perfect location if needed. I have no idea for the good name. &mdash; revi  10:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you started off the category structure as this kind of kick-started me into working on them. Could the top-level category link just be called "Categories" or is that just a bit too simplistic? This is what I have called mine but then my wiki is very different to Meta. It would be interesting to hear other people's views regarding location and name. Having the categories link in the menu would make finding many of the important article pages a lot quicker. Borderman   talk 14:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I chose Miraheze because meta was basically about Miraheze itself. Most important resources are usually in main page or help pages but anyway. &mdash; revi  15:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * For further explanation the reason rootcat is 'miraheze' is the same reason our main page is named Miraheze. &mdash; revi  16:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Is there any way to adopt a wiki that is clearly dead, but not yet up for adoption?
I requested and was approved for worldbuilding.miraheze.org, but then I learned that it already existed. Would it be possible to adopt that wiki since it is at the end of the time frame and the Sitenotice just hasn't been updated? Or, do I have to wait for the sitenotice to be updated? --BenjaminWiki (talk) 19:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * No, wikis may not be adopted unless they are closed. Anyway, from what I see the wiki could be closed by the inactivity script, only it currently does not work. When the script gets fixed and someone runs it the wiki should be closed, allowing you to request to adopt it. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 09:10, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You realise that in many cases you can just export the pages and import them into another wiki? Rsterbal (talk) 23:33, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * In fact, explore the wiki to see if it is something you can add content to without becoming its adoptor, though you might eventually acquire control over it.  01:11 6-Dec-2017

site messages
Messages like this:

https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&action=submit Miraheze is performing maintenance on one of its database clusters due to a database crash. While your wiki might not be on the affected database cluster, all wikis are in read-only mode to protect the data of all wikis.

should include a date and time.

RobertSter (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Times are located/will be located here. Also, I'm assuming that you are same user as User:Rsterbal - if true, please do not use more than one account unless you have a good reason. That's not a strict policy for say, but it just helps with transparency of users and helps the staff identify users. Amanda (talk) 19:51, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I have already discussed the account thing with Robert, and he does have a valid reason for them. Also just a tip, you can use wiki markup Page rather than normal links to the same wiki. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 07:40, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

IRC Logbot
What software is used for the IRC Logbot? 24.39.1.139 16:51, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * botbot.me -- Amanda   (talk)  17:18, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No, for MirahezeRCbot 2600:1000:B006:AD89:6122:70C9:CBC5:482E 17:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I'll ask --  Amanda   (talk)  18:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry I ment MirahezeLogbot. 2600:1000:B019:824D:AD58:ECEE:4A13:F4CE 20:22, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Searching for 'mirahezelogbot' on our Puppet repo and digging around a little bit led me here. There are several related files but this is probably the main code one. Look at other files inside of /modules/irc/ -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

The Abuse filter
i have 30 edit's already, and it says i have <30? i want remove the phone number from User:Rsterbals page 83.31.83.239 16:05, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * If i remember correctly you must be a logged in user. Zppix (talk) 16:07, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Please do not pointlessly edit pages just to get 30 edits. You could have asked and someone would have taken care of it. Unless you are Rsterbal, you have no right to remove anything from other users' userpages. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#d00404"> contribs  ) 16:13, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Well im not him but hes spaming fone numers! 83.28.63.105
 * He puts his phone numbers so people can contact him that way. It's totally legit and staff has seen no reason to remove it. Please don't edit other users pages or signatures. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:55, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

News section
The news section on the main page is muddled up. As you can see the 2 year anniversary post was put at the top. I know this is a really insignificant problem but it gets me xD. If any sysadmin could reorder them please whenever they may have team. Sorry for my bugging :) &#32;  CnocBride | Talk | Contribs  16:19, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll do that. Also note that it's not only sysadmins that can edit (or that should), it's Stewards or Meta admins. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#d00404"> contribs  ) 16:21, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Piwik
How have we integrated the piwik tracking code into mediawiki? MacFan4000 (talk) 15:07, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's much integration with MediaWiki specifically, it just works as it would on any site. See this for details. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 17:30, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No when I installed it on my server it told me to insert some tracking code into every webpage. MacFan4000 (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, if you're trying to install it you need a Piwik script. See this one, you should be able to add it to LocalSettings.php. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 05:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


 * There are wikis. Too much!!!! Count with me. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 2004, 2204, (pant (pant) Ok, (pant) that is all of the wikis powered by MediaWiki. (pant) OK? (pant) (pant) 70.71.90.6 02:52, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Add "Create an account button" close to RequestWiki

 * Since RequestWiki has been changed it is now a bit less clear how to create an account (the fact that you need to do so) if you try to request a wiki while not logged in. Therefore, I propose that we add a button for that on the Main Page as well. Someone good styling, etc. (, Reception123  (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 18:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅, and if we're feeling extra adventurous, I could fiddle with the CSS so that the Request a wiki button only shows up for logged in users. (Not doing that without agreement though). -- Void  Whispers 19:45, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

How to change my logo?
Hello, I do need help. I want to change my Crazybloxian Empire wiki logo, at

Blog
The blog is great: https://blog.miraheze.org/

Will you be adding a link to it on the home page?

Thanks, RobertSter (talk) 16:02, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Can we change the title at the top of the page, in the browser tab?
Hi! I have a suggestion to the main page: change the title in the browser tab from "Meta" to "Miraheze" or something else, "Miraheze" seems to look better than the "Meta" title because it looks better. -- Psl631 (Let's Chat!) 20:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Some questions
Hi, the folks at Uncyclopedia are considering moving here. I'd like to know some things to get a better idea of whether this would work out. If this is the wrong place, please let me know what the right place is. Thanks.
 * Do you think you have enough space? See the statistics page -- 368,290 pages, 105,594 files, and 6,057,078 edits (that last figure includes deleted edits, which you may not be able to take; without them it's more like 4 million). This is larger than All The Tropes, which has 317,955 pages, 59,650 files and 1,395,473 edits. I'm not aware of any wikis on here bigger than ATT (correct me if there are).
 * Can you import anything other than pages, histories and current versions of files? I know users are out of the question (the blocklist would probably be as well, since it applies to the old users). I'm thinking of deleted content, file histories, logs, active protections, and abuse filters. Moving a wiki to Miraheze isn't clear on this. Dumps of at least some of these things could be provided. I'd also like to know if you're willing to take SQL dumps or only XML.
 * If the community decides to move the wiki elsewhere, would that affect how the Dormancy Policy is applied to the copy remaining here? Is there any chance of a quicker closure or deletion?

PS -- your captcha contains the text "⧼&lt;div class="error">$1&lt;/div>⧽". Might want to fix that. Flyingcat (talk) 22:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Disk space: I've asked the same question on our discord, and had no answer that is clear enough as of yet. However, our technical staff are trying to resolve it ASAP, and it's likely that we will have more disk space within a couple of days.
 * As for the AbuseFilter, you can manually export and import each filter. However, since Fandom uses the older version of the extension, you may need to update some of the parameters. I'm not very sure about the dumps and the deleted content.
 * You can manually close the wiki if you are moving. If you are to delete the wiki, you may make a request for it.
 * Generally speaking, you can use the community noticeboard regarding community issues and Phabricator for technical issues.-- 06:30, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, . Hope we can get a clearer answer on the disk space. So wikis can be deleted on request -- that's good to hear. I couldn't find a policy page mentioning this. I know abuse filters can be imported that way, but I was asking about XML and SQL dumps that include abuse filter information. Flyingcat (talk) 06:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The thing is, we're still working on issues regarding disk spaces. This phab task will tell you the current progress. We had a temporary solution for the time being, but we still need to have a long-term solution to be implemented. Since I'm not a tech staff, I'm not sure if you can import abuse filter information via XML/SQL dumps. If the staff on Fandom says it can be exported, however, I think it's more likely that we can import them as well. Perhaps our discord may be a better place to discuss this, as our tech support members are more often online there.-- 08:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Question
If you create a wiki here, can you use the Special:Import feature to import pages from other wikis? Some wikis have that as an option and some don't. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 18:55, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is possible to set that up. After requesting your week feel free to request that and we will set it up for your wiki. --Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 19:30, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Looking for a host for Wikipedia admin accountability wiki
Greetings!

I'd like to ask the local admins/stewards whether a wiki for the contentious topic of Wikipedia admin accountability can be hosted on Miraheze? This topic is expected to attract the usual drama, that might affect this project. Is this a concern, or such wiki could be hosted here with the consent of those responsible for the project. The familiarity of the wiki interface to WP editors is the reason for possibly choosing this project.

Yours sincerely, WikiNeutrality (talk) 20:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It has been my job to protect another wiki against importation of drama, so I'll ask you: Is there a point to creating such a forum here OTHER THAN hosting drama? and is there a reason to hash out Wikipedia disagreements here, rather than on Wikipedia?   01:18 20-Jun-2019


 * The point is to document breaches of accountability. Although Wikipedia has a policy that allows users to do so, in reality that usually results in a block (suppression). Admins usually prefer to play the drama "at home", where interpretation of rules is up to them, but still some off-wiki harassment might come this way, thus my question. Such drama would be off-topic noise to documenting actions, thus efforts will be made to keep it at bay. WikiNeutrality (talk) 09:15, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

News
It would be nice to add in the mainpage that Miraheze has been updated to 1.33, right? 👀-- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  04:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 05:56, 10 July 2019 (UTC)