Talk:Miraheze

Security Question
Hey, I saw the TLS thingy and I don't know if my browsers are updated, but I do have TLSv2 and updated Mozilla (My Google Chrome is set to auto update itself). So, will my computer and browsers be able to past the new security?

I also have Microsoft Edge. Please help, I don't know how to read the scan results.

Could we add a link to the list of wikis on the home page?
I'm not even sure where the link is, but it would be nice to have a link to the list of wikis.
 * The link would be Special:SiteMatrix but I'm hoping we manage to improve it (so it's not mediawiki-specific). -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 20:13, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It would be nice add a few columns to the report if you get a chance to improve it. Date Started, count of Main Page Updates, Pages, maybe wiki owner? Robert
 * The extension is currently wikimedia specific and developed by others. Including this information (even if we already had the information) would be a lot more work. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:07, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Robert

Main Page update
I put a sample of the main page update here:


 * https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Test_main_page

I couldn't remember where the language for the Donate section is so I just left it blank.

I replaced the word wikis with this wikis wiki text

Wiki Analysis
I was able to download the main page of all 695 wikis into a single zip file.

What would be the useful information to parse out of each page?:


 * Last Update
 * wiki title


 * PS the wiki title on main pages is created automatically, but is done using the variable, so I'm not sure if it works for you or not. Also, I don't believe that the last edit to the main page is an accurate representation of when a wiki was last updated. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:48, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know if there's anything useful to be gotten out of s automatically.  Maybe to see if they still have the default front page -- that might be useful to know.  Now, if you meant a manual parse using your wetware, it would be great to have a one-sentence summary of what the wiki is about.  It would be nice to have something with more content than just Special:SiteMatrix.  Maybe we do something like our own version of SiteMatrix, and get each wiki to write a summary about itself -- possibly as a message page.  That would be neat.  (And I do realize that by "we" I'm saying "me") Vorticity (talk) 01:12, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll try to get to the summary of what the wikis are about by time. I'll look at 20 or so of them to see if automation or getting more people to help is the easiest way forward. I'll also pull up all the history pages to see if I can parse out the logins of the people who have changed the wikis. Essentially I'm reverse engineering a contact list for the site.
 * Oh ya I also make a page for analysis wiki you can help or add from Special:Sitematrix, I made for easyly wacth action guest on the wiki and development a wiki and also see how many people was contributing. Do you support? see this

Regards – TriX Message!  03:59, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

add link to homepage
Add link publictestwiki.com for newbie before request a wiki?How?TriX (talk) 11:41, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, that would be useful, but TestWiki isn't really the "official TestWiki" of Miraheze. What do you say? Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:48, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay :)TriX (talk) 11:54, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Donation section
Can someone add a donations section to the Main Page?

Maybe below the Contact us IRC: #miraheze (recommended) Facebook: Miraheze Twitter: @miraheze On-wiki: Help center section?

Donations

for details on how to make a donation, please see the Donate page.

Wondering how your donations have been used? Look at the Finance page.

Thanks! --Robert Sterbal


 * There is already this besides the Contact Us where it says Contributing and please sign your posts with ~ . Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 13:42, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Where will the incident review be published?
"Miraheze has completed the database server migration. All wikis should be working as usual now, and Miraheze will work on publishing an explanation of this incident soon."

where will the incident be published?
 * Tech:Incidents as all other major incidents are reported at. John (talk) 21:11, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Since the 1.28 upgrade, has been implemented. As the name suggests, it shows the current number of wikis that Miraheze is hosting. I think it would be a good idea to include this on the Main Page. Any ideas on where it could go on the Main Page? Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:58, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I created a draft here. MacFan4000 (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 13:58, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The draft proposed by MacFan is good! ImBoPhil (talk) 16:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I did also add a news item about updating to MW 1.28. MacFan4000 (talk) 13:48, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks great. If there are no objections from the community this would be a good addition to the main page (inc the 1.28 update news item). Borderman   talk 13:58, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Added. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 15:38, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

The cost of downtime
There are quite a few costs associated with downtime.

Some are easy to guesstimate, others are not.

Since Miraheze is a service, there is an implied data loss to people not being able to add to their wikis.

To reduce data loss of existing data a robust process of backup and recovery needs to be documented and implemented. The backup process should help both the sysadmins recover the system, and allow the users of the system to back up and recover data on their own.

A discussion of downtime should happen either on wiki or in a widely promoted forum, not in a ticket tracking system.

Adding new categories for easier navigation
I have noticed whilst browsing the site that there seems to be a few pages without categories. Was this intentional from the onset or have some categories been overlooked? I only ask because I use categories extensively for better navigation and believe that pages on Miraheze could possibly be overlooked by users because they are not always easy to find. Does anyone have any concerns if I created a few categories and if no, are there any objections to having a top-level category accessible from a link in the sidebar? I thought I would ask first just in case it was deemed a bad idea. Borderman  talk 21:51, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Feel free to create any categories that you feel are necessary. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:22, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For the time being I have made a start in tidying up the user language categories. In a few days time I'll continue to go through the existing categories and then the wanted categories. I am sure there are categories in there that aren't really needed. If acceptable, will you add a link to Category:Miraheze in the sidebar (or if not the sidebar, another prominent location of your choosing) for easier access to this top-level category? Cheers. Borderman   talk 22:30, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Category:Miraheze seems like a really good idea. Maybe some community members can suggest where this should be added. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 10:51, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Revi came up with the Category:Miraheze, however, it needed populating. If there are no suggestions in the next week or so as to where a link to this top-level category would be best suited, could a Meta Administrator place it in the menu? As categories are used for navigation, could it possibly go in the navigation menu under Random Page? Or is that too prominent a location?  Borderman   talk 23:05, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, I originally created a basic category hierarchy under Category:Miraheze (I only remember creating Tech and Requests. And meh.), and I think the spot below "About Miraheze" in the sidebar is the perfect location if needed. I have no idea for the good name. &mdash; revi  10:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you started off the category structure as this kind of kick-started me into working on them. Could the top-level category link just be called "Categories" or is that just a bit too simplistic? This is what I have called mine but then my wiki is very different to Meta. It would be interesting to hear other people's views regarding location and name. Having the categories link in the menu would make finding many of the important article pages a lot quicker. Borderman   talk 14:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I chose Miraheze because meta was basically about Miraheze itself. Most important resources are usually in main page or help pages but anyway. &mdash; revi  15:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * For further explanation the reason rootcat is 'miraheze' is the same reason our main page is named Miraheze. &mdash; revi  16:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Is there any way to adopt a wiki that is clearly dead, but not yet up for adoption?
I requested and was approved for worldbuilding.miraheze.org, but then I learned that it already existed. Would it be possible to adopt that wiki since it is at the end of the time frame and the Sitenotice just hasn't been updated? Or, do I have to wait for the sitenotice to be updated? --BenjaminWiki (talk) 19:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * No, wikis may not be adopted unless they are closed. Anyway, from what I see the wiki could be closed by the inactivity script, only it currently does not work. When the script gets fixed and someone runs it the wiki should be closed, allowing you to request to adopt it. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 09:10, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You realise that in many cases you can just export the pages and import them into another wiki? Rsterbal (talk) 23:33, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * In fact, explore the wiki to see if it is something you can add content to without becoming its adoptor, though you might eventually acquire control over it.  01:11 6-Dec-2017

site messages
Messages like this:

https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&action=submit Miraheze is performing maintenance on one of its database clusters due to a database crash. While your wiki might not be on the affected database cluster, all wikis are in read-only mode to protect the data of all wikis.

should include a date and time.

RobertSter (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Times are located/will be located here. Also, I'm assuming that you are same user as User:Rsterbal - if true, please do not use more than one account unless you have a good reason. That's not a strict policy for say, but it just helps with transparency of users and helps the staff identify users. Amanda (talk) 19:51, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I have already discussed the account thing with Robert, and he does have a valid reason for them. Also just a tip, you can use wiki markup Page rather than normal links to the same wiki. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 07:40, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

IRC Logbot
What software is used for the IRC Logbot? 24.39.1.139 16:51, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * botbot.me -- Amanda   (talk)  17:18, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No, for MirahezeRCbot 2600:1000:B006:AD89:6122:70C9:CBC5:482E 17:38, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I'll ask --  Amanda   (talk)  18:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry I ment MirahezeLogbot. 2600:1000:B019:824D:AD58:ECEE:4A13:F4CE 20:22, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Searching for 'mirahezelogbot' on our Puppet repo and digging around a little bit led me here. There are several related files but this is probably the main code one. Look at other files inside of /modules/irc/ -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:21, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

The Abuse filter
i have 30 edit's already, and it says i have <30? i want remove the phone number from User:Rsterbals page 83.31.83.239 16:05, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * If i remember correctly you must be a logged in user. Zppix (talk) 16:07, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Please do not pointlessly edit pages just to get 30 edits. You could have asked and someone would have taken care of it. Unless you are Rsterbal, you have no right to remove anything from other users' userpages. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#d00404"> contribs  ) 16:13, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Well im not him but hes spaming fone numers! 83.28.63.105
 * He puts his phone numbers so people can contact him that way. It's totally legit and staff has seen no reason to remove it. Please don't edit other users pages or signatures. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:55, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

News section
The news section on the main page is muddled up. As you can see the 2 year anniversary post was put at the top. I know this is a really insignificant problem but it gets me xD. If any sysadmin could reorder them please whenever they may have team. Sorry for my bugging :) &#32;  CnocBride | Talk | Contribs  16:19, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll do that. Also note that it's not only sysadmins that can edit (or that should), it's Stewards or Meta admins. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#d00404"> contribs  ) 16:21, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Piwik
How have we integrated the piwik tracking code into mediawiki? MacFan4000 (talk) 15:07, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's much integration with MediaWiki specifically, it just works as it would on any site. See this for details. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 17:30, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No when I installed it on my server it told me to insert some tracking code into every webpage. MacFan4000 (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, if you're trying to install it you need a Piwik script. See this one, you should be able to add it to LocalSettings.php. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 05:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC)


 * There are wikis. Too much!!!! Count with me. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 2004, 2204, (pant (pant) Ok, (pant) that is all of the wikis powered by MediaWiki. (pant) OK? (pant) (pant) 70.71.90.6 02:52, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Add "Create an account button" close to RequestWiki

 * Since RequestWiki has been changed it is now a bit less clear how to create an account (the fact that you need to do so) if you try to request a wiki while not logged in. Therefore, I propose that we add a button for that on the Main Page as well. Someone good styling, etc. (, Reception123  (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 18:55, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅, and if we're feeling extra adventurous, I could fiddle with the CSS so that the Request a wiki button only shows up for logged in users. (Not doing that without agreement though). -- Void  Whispers 19:45, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

How to change my logo?
Hello, I do need help. I want to change my Crazybloxian Empire wiki logo, at

Blog
The blog is great: https://blog.miraheze.org/

Will you be adding a link to it on the home page?

Thanks, RobertSter (talk) 16:02, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Can we change the title at the top of the page, in the browser tab?
Hi! I have a suggestion to the main page: change the title in the browser tab from "Meta" to "Miraheze" or something else, "Miraheze" seems to look better than the "Meta" title because it looks better. -- Psl631 (Let's Chat!) 20:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Some questions
Hi, the folks at Uncyclopedia are considering moving here. I'd like to know some things to get a better idea of whether this would work out. If this is the wrong place, please let me know what the right place is. Thanks.
 * Do you think you have enough space? See the statistics page -- 368,290 pages, 105,594 files, and 6,057,078 edits (that last figure includes deleted edits, which you may not be able to take; without them it's more like 4 million). This is larger than All The Tropes, which has 317,955 pages, 59,650 files and 1,395,473 edits. I'm not aware of any wikis on here bigger than ATT (correct me if there are).
 * Can you import anything other than pages, histories and current versions of files? I know users are out of the question (the blocklist would probably be as well, since it applies to the old users). I'm thinking of deleted content, file histories, logs, active protections, and abuse filters. Moving a wiki to Miraheze isn't clear on this. Dumps of at least some of these things could be provided. I'd also like to know if you're willing to take SQL dumps or only XML.
 * If the community decides to move the wiki elsewhere, would that affect how the Dormancy Policy is applied to the copy remaining here? Is there any chance of a quicker closure or deletion?

PS -- your captcha contains the text "⧼&lt;div class="error">$1&lt;/div>⧽". Might want to fix that. Flyingcat (talk) 22:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Disk space: I've asked the same question on our discord, and had no answer that is clear enough as of yet. However, our technical staff are trying to resolve it ASAP, and it's likely that we will have more disk space within a couple of days.
 * As for the AbuseFilter, you can manually export and import each filter. However, since Fandom uses the older version of the extension, you may need to update some of the parameters. I'm not very sure about the dumps and the deleted content.
 * You can manually close the wiki if you are moving. If you are to delete the wiki, you may make a request for it.
 * Generally speaking, you can use the community noticeboard regarding community issues and Phabricator for technical issues.-- 06:30, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response, . Hope we can get a clearer answer on the disk space. So wikis can be deleted on request -- that's good to hear. I couldn't find a policy page mentioning this. I know abuse filters can be imported that way, but I was asking about XML and SQL dumps that include abuse filter information. Flyingcat (talk) 06:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The thing is, we're still working on issues regarding disk spaces. This phab task will tell you the current progress. We had a temporary solution for the time being, but we still need to have a long-term solution to be implemented. Since I'm not a tech staff, I'm not sure if you can import abuse filter information via XML/SQL dumps. If the staff on Fandom says it can be exported, however, I think it's more likely that we can import them as well. Perhaps our discord may be a better place to discuss this, as our tech support members are more often online there.-- 08:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Question
If you create a wiki here, can you use the Special:Import feature to import pages from other wikis? Some wikis have that as an option and some don't. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 18:55, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is possible to set that up. After requesting your week feel free to request that and we will set it up for your wiki. --Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 19:30, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Looking for a host for Wikipedia admin accountability wiki
Greetings!

I'd like to ask the local admins/stewards whether a wiki for the contentious topic of Wikipedia admin accountability can be hosted on Miraheze? This topic is expected to attract the usual drama, that might affect this project. Is this a concern, or such wiki could be hosted here with the consent of those responsible for the project. The familiarity of the wiki interface to WP editors is the reason for possibly choosing this project.

Yours sincerely, WikiNeutrality (talk) 20:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It has been my job to protect another wiki against importation of drama, so I'll ask you: Is there a point to creating such a forum here OTHER THAN hosting drama? and is there a reason to hash out Wikipedia disagreements here, rather than on Wikipedia?   01:18 20-Jun-2019


 * The point is to document breaches of accountability. Although Wikipedia has a policy that allows users to do so, in reality that usually results in a block (suppression). Admins usually prefer to play the drama "at home", where interpretation of rules is up to them, but still some off-wiki harassment might come this way, thus my question. Such drama would be off-topic noise to documenting actions, thus efforts will be made to keep it at bay. WikiNeutrality (talk) 09:15, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

News
It would be nice to add in the mainpage that Miraheze has been updated to 1.33, right? 👀-- Dark Dragoon  (talk)  04:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 05:56, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Update the news
The main page news section should tell users that on the 22nd of December Miraheze upgraded to 1.34, thanks. --Icanttellyou (talk) 10:03, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ✅! Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#DC143C">'C' ) 10:31, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Moving A Wiki From FANDOM
I want to move this wiki : https://thetoptens-website-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/TheTopTens_Site_Wiki from FANDOM to Miraheze, but I don’t want to get blocked from FANDOM. How can I do this?

Can't read a whole notification
I know all this sounds kind of stupid, but i got a notification that my wiki had been declined because the permissions were messed up, and that I need to visit a wiki and make a request on a page. But the problem is, I can't see which page I need to make the request on. So, does anyone know which page I'm talking about? --BurntButtons (talk) March 11, 2020 18:16 UTC
 * The full text of the message is: "The wiki has been created, but it looks like the permissions weren't transferred successfully. Please first visit the wiki, and file a request on Stewards' noticeboard." -- Void  Whispers 23:46, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This has since been resolved, and your wiki should now be working. -- Void  Whispers 00:57, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Delete my acount please
I'm an admin for the reception wikis as Grust is leaving i plan on leaving as well too since there's really nothing at all for me there anymore and i would like this account to be deleted when i'm finsihed tying up my loose ends and i'll let you know when i wanted too delete it.
 * User accounts cannot be deleted. Hispano76 (talk) 01:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Answered on SN. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

So could you find a way to deactivate it.

Wiki amount per account
I have 6 wikis and for some reason, Every time I request a wiki now, nothing happens

--BadBrakes (talk) 00:17, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason why you request so many wikis in such a short time?, have you taken the time to decide on your projects that you will actually do? --Hispano76 (talk) 02:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe there is a limit on how many wikis an individual user account can request, at least within a certain amount of time. Per Hispano76, please explain why you are requesting so many wikis and what you actually intend to do with each of them. For now I am declining your most recent request. Amanda Catherine (talk) 12:59, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There is no limit on wiki requests technically imposed. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  07:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I made two wikis about US Counties so they wont clog up my two wikis about cities. My other two are side wikis of the Crummy and Astonishing Scratchers wikis

How to make the navigation sidebar?
I've been trying to configure and edit the navigation sidebar for my wiki, how do I do it?

@Herzegovina You need to edit MediaWiki:Sidebar. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 05:40, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Delete the VSSW
Please delete the Vapid Scratch Studios Wiki, it is causing a lot of controversy and I closed it and marked it as inactive. Hurry delete this wiki at vapidscratchstudios.miraheze.org

How do you become a steward?
I'm not planning to be one, but I'm just wondering --BadBrakes (talk) 15:24, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Once you have the adequate experience, you need to pass a community discussion/vote at Requests for Stewardship. Amanda Catherine (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Delete badscratch.miraheze.org
When the crummyscratchers.miraheze.org community got banned on scratch.mit.edu for "gossiping", Pacsonic closed the wiki so we can get unbanned. But now someone named Wpetoi made a wiki called badscratch.miraheze.org. Please close the wiki as it's going to cause us more trouble on another website. And make a rule saying no negative scratch.mit.edu reception wikis --PowerDagger15 (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

How to access global edits
I want to see how much edits I made globally --PowerDagger15 (talk) 17:48, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can do this for yourself (or anyone else for that matter) via Special:CentralAuth. Just input your username, and it will tell you how many global edits you have, and then also provide a wiki-by-wiki breakdown of where that global total is coming from. Amanda Catherine (talk) 18:10, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

How to decline a wiki request but the request got accepted
I requested Lousy Reception Wikis Wiki but I didn't want it anymore because there is already a wiki for that but it got accepted. Is there any way to ignore a request or delete the wiki? Because I'm requesting another wiki. Sorry for the inconvenience --PowerDagger15 (talk) 16:25, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like or another steward deleted your wiki for you. Dmehus (talk) 01:51, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Add a small Purge link next to the number of wikis maybe?
For users who aren't logged in or don't have the Purge gadget installed, I'm wondering if we could add a small, unobtrusive text, or graphical, "purge" link immediately after the number of wikis (in parentheses, if a text hyperlink)? It'd be much more convention than adding "?action=purge" to the URL in my address bar and, since the number of wikis changes frequently, this page requires frequent purging. Pinging. Dmehus (talk) 01:50, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Do people even use this anymore
We have noticeboards --PowerDagger15 (talk) 21:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * We do have noticeboards, but for minor changes and tweaks to protected pages, it usually doesn't require a full noticeboard or community discussion. Moreover, people that follow the noticeboards may be uninterested in the minutiae of such changes to certain pages, in design, technical specifications, or content. So, often talk pages still serve a great purpose. I personally think we should enable Flow on this talk page, though, as it's much more conducive for conversations, and topics can easily be marked as 'resolved' when complete. Dmehus (talk) 05:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

How do I auto confirm my account?
How do I auto confirm account? Every time I post a subject, it says it’s only available to auto confirmed users. How do I auto confirm my account?
 * Autoconfirmed status is an automatically, or implicitly, granted local user group when the user meets the following conditions. Typically, on most or nearly Miraheze-hosted wikis, including Meta, this happens when your account is more than four (4) days old and after you have made at least ten (10) edits on that wiki (link). You can request confirmed user status at Administrators' noticeboard, but typically, it's not normally granted as it is fairly easy to obtain autoconfirmed status automatically (the exception for "confirmed" status would be legitimate alternate accounts, such as an account you use when logged in to a public computer terminal or an account in which you perform highly tedious, manual but bot-like edits). In your case, a little pro tip...I would recommend creating your Meta sandbox in your userspace, make a few edits, and add your signature to that page using four tildes that you are required to use when signing noticeboard or talk page comments like this. Speaking of which, I've added an unsigned signature for you. Dmehus (talk) 22:42, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Exporting the wiki
Depending on my association request, I may have to move the wiki to a private server. Is it possible to export a whole Miraheze hosted wiki including its pictures (jpg, pdf, svg...)

--AMITRAM (talk) 12:05, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * See Special:DataDump on the relevant wiki. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:24, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

In The Future, Can It Be Possible To Show Trending Or Most Popular Wikis On The Main Page
Naughtasulawesi (talk) 19:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)


 * It's an intriguing idea, and one we definitely could consider, but I do feel that should have a community discussion on community noticeboard as we'd need to define clear, unambiguous, neutral, and objective criteria for tracking what are the "trending" or "popular" wikis. In the interim, we do have Gazetteer of wikis, which lists some of our more popular and other wikis. There is also Special:WikiDiscover, too. Dmehus (talk) 19:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Weakness in search engines
Why are wikis hosted on miraheze, weak in search engines? I have a wiki hosted here for a month, it has more than 240 articles but never appears on the first pages of search engines, and look that it is not even a search that will appear on strong websites. What should this be, an error from mediawiki, or hosting that is poor?

(Remembering that I'm not complaining, and I don't even care about it) --TheNino (talk) 04:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Future viability of Miraheze
Hey there, not sure if this is the right place to ask this. I haven't been a user here for very long, but I've already created two wikis here, one of which I just recently finished migrated content from its Fandom counterpart over the past year before having it closed (in a general effort of moving away from Fandom). Miraheze has been a great replacement thus far.

Despite reassurances from the FAQ, however, I am still concerned about the possibility of this place being shut down for one reason or another. I have plans on creating a few more wikis in the future, but I wanted to be sure Miraheze would still be a viable host for years to come. Is it worth it to continue putting in the effort, or am I just being irrational here (I think I'm just on edge dealing with all the Fandom/Gamepedia BS over the last year or so)?

- Hathomirr (talk) 16:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. I understand where your question is coming from and that you may be worried that Miraheze isn't a viable option. As you surely know after reading the FAQ, we do depend on user donations, and we have been functioning since 2015 because of our user's donations. We are soon planning a fundraiser, and as far as donations keep coming in, there would be no reason for Miraheze to shut down. Our financial data is transparent and you may consult it here. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply. I can't promise a significant amount, but I'll be keeping tabs on that fundraiser or other opportunities to help this place out. - Hathomirr (talk) 17:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Use an unambiguous date format
In an article like 23-12-2020 Security Disclosure, the date format in the title is DD-MM-YYYY which is used in most of the world. However, if the day is 12 or less, it's ambiguous (dates such as "11-12-2020" can be interpreted as "November 12, 2020" in the US or "11 December 2020" in most of the world). It would be better to use ISO 8601 (YYYY-MM-DD).

Thanks. --YueLing182 (talk) 10:02, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Miraheze intentionally uses the British date format of DD-MM-YYYY as you mentioned above, I believe. This is because Miraheze is registered in the U.K. I personally do not find it ambiguous. R4356th (talk) 10:06, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * In addition to what said, I would also note that I don't find it ambiguous. That being said, all prior security disclosures used the YYYY-MM-DD date format. So, on the basis of standardization and consistency, I would support this retitling, but I do think we should at least wait until the sitenotice is no longer there, to minimize the disruption. This actually would be better from a sorting method as well, as all security notices will be sorted in ascending order, chronologically. Dmehus (talk) 17:50, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I copied the date from the internal drafts to be honest. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  17:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Not ambiguous? In the United States, the date format is either MM/DD/YYYY or MM-DD-YYYY (the separator is people's habit).
 * 13-08-2020: Unambiguously 13 August 2020 (DMY)
 * 06-22-2020: Unambiguously June 22, 2020 (MDY)
 * 09-08-2020: Could be 9 August 2020 in DMY or September 8, 2020 in MDY
 * If a number is 12 or less then you have no way of telling which way around it has been written. If one number is larger than 12 then that number must be the day because there are only 12 months in a year. If the month and the day are both the same number then it doesn’t count.
 * Your service targets many of the world, so it's better to use an unambiguous format. YueLing182 (talk) 08:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This has now been done. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:54, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you add a qualifier to the don't accept advertising claim?
My wikis periodically get a banner ad asking for donations.

Is there a way to pay to not have these appear on my wikis?

Can you remove the claim that Miraheze is ad free?

Thanks, Rsterbal (talk) 18:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Rsterbal I'm going to mark this as ❌, principally because this isn't advertising. It's a fundraising banner that is usually only run annually for a month or two, until our fundraising requirements are met. The banner should appear for only a few more weeks, but please do feel free to make a donation, if you haven't already, to help accelerate the meeting of our fundraising requirements. Dmehus (talk) 18:25, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't want to get technical, but advertising usually concerns commercial products or services. I'm sure you understand that since Miraheze does not have any actual ads, the only way to stay up is via donations, and we do need to organize fundraisers once in a while. Wikipedia, Internet Archive and most donation-based websites do the same. We do however give you the option to dismiss the sitenotice, so you can do that. While I understand that it may be inconvenient to see this banner for so long, it is necessary to allow us to get enough funds to be able to stay up and provide a quality service. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 21:18, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm completely confused.
 * This is advertising. Can I pay to have it removed from my wiki?
 * Rsterbal (talk) 21:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Rsterbal Unfortunately, we don't have a paid, premium tier, though I wouldn't mind that as a source of recurring revenue to fund our infrastructure. In any case, the central notice is due to expire in less than a week, which probably will not likely be renewed as we're coming close to meeting our goal for the year (within a few hundred GBP anyway, with or without the estimated 2020 tax liability). So, until it expires, you can just click "dismiss" and not see it on your wiki. But, I still agree with Reception123 above that this is not advertising. Dmehus (talk) 21:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * @Rsterbal Does enabling "Opt out of global Miraheze notices" in Special:ManageWiki/settings work? K599 (talk) 22:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to pay to have the adverting removed.
 * I'm not sure why you don't want to call it advertising. You are advertising for donations. That is a legitimate activity. Rsterbal (talk) 19:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. I'd call it fundraising, though. Dmehus (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the correct language is that Miraheze doesn't sell ads  Rsterbal (talk) 16:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

On a related note, if that message is a returning one, can that be translated through translatewiki, or are there any plans to enable that in the future? --Sabelöga (talk) 18:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * For the record, the sitenotice will soon expire and no longer show. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 15:45, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * To add to what Reception123 said, we've decided to extend the fundraiser by only ten days, as we're not yet close enough to our annual fundraising target. We're getting there, but we'd rather prefer to be as close as possible to the 4,000 GBP goal, so we only have to account for obtaining an additional 400 GBP (our estimated UK tax liability for the 2020 fiscal year) throughout the entire rest of 2021, which would mean we may not even need to do a midyear fundraiser. In short, 10 extra days is a small sacrifice to another 30+ day central notice in July or August.
 * Rsterbal, Reception123 and I would be happy to hide the central notice banner on your wiki for you. Dmehus (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * There is currently an opt out setting in Special:ManageWiki/settings (as per the comment by K599). If this isn't working, or is not desirable, please let us know so we can work out a better solution. -- Void  Whispers 19:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, is "us" supposed to mean the Board? Thank you. 19:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The message already is translatable here on Meta. I cannot remember what page I used to translate it though. 19:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I thought it was already translateable. Dmehus (talk) 19:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * should be available at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Translate?group=Centralnotice-tgroup-Fundraiser2021 -- Void  Whispers 20:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Though, what does that void translation in the middle really do? I can't fill it with nothing, so should I ignore it or should you remove it? Sabelöga (talk) 21:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Currently nothing, from the looks of it. I have a plan to revamp the CentralNotice system to make translation stuff a lot easier and more convenient for users. But we'll see if I actually get the chance to do so. -- Void  Whispers 19:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay Sabelöga (talk) 02:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe us/we in this context refers to Miraheze community members involved with helping with the annual fundraiser for Miraheze. The board doesn't plan its own fundraisers directly. Dmehus (talk) 19:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not looking for special treatment for just my wikis. I'm looking for a site option for all wikis to hide the box on the top of their wiki pages. I think it is disruptive, and would pay for the removal. Rsterbal (talk) 17:44, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * @Rsterbal Did you try using the setting in Special:ManageWiki/settings I mentioned earlier? K599 (talk) 18:34, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I just took a look:
 * Opt out of global Miraheze notices ($wmgSiteNoticeOptOut)
 * Opts your wiki out of global Miraheze notices, only showing important notices.
 * I would assume funding the site is considered important!
 * Rsterbal (talk) 17:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Rsterbal Funding the site is important, yes, but for this year, we opted not to make the central notice a mandatory one. So, if you opt out, you will not see it any further. That being said, the central notice will disappear globally in seven (7) calendar days or less from now. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 18:01, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I turned it off and it still showed up.
 * Again, I asked a reasonable question and don't have a clear reason why I'm getting workarounds instead of answers. Rsterbal (talk) 16:46, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Rsterbal Well, for one thing, Reception123 and I, as well as others, have provided reasonable answers and workarounds. You contend that the central notices are advertising, but they aren't; they're fundraising banners for Miraheze's business model which relies 100% on customer/user donations. With regard to your question, you've not specified which wiki you opted out of optional central notices, so I assumed you meant  In that case, you've not selected   in Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-notifications. Hope this helps. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:58, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I mentioned before that I didn't want to really get into the semantics of the word but I feel like it's nonetheless important to argue the point regarding the specific word 'advertising'. The Oxford definition of advertising is the following: "the activity or profession of producing advertisements for commercial products or services." We, Miraheze, provide a free donation-based service and hence not a "commercial" service. But as Dmehus said, you are free to opt out via ManageWiki from the banner. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 100.6.94.93 19:46, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * November 2019: Miraheze is now a not-for-profit in the UK. See Incorporation for more information. Rsterbal (talk) 19:47, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Here are some guidelines for fundraising in England:
 * https://www.fundraisingregulator.org.uk/code/specific-fundraising-methods/fundraising-communications-and-advertisements
 * 9.1.9.
 * You must be able to justify how often you contact people, balancing the need to communicate with not overwhelming or bombarding people. Rsterbal (talk) 17:44, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The article you link seems to be referring to charities from a quick glance. Unfortunately, Miraheze was not able to register as a charity, which is why it is called a not for profit and not a non-profit. As much as we'd love not to have a banner for so long asking people to donate, we don't have many other choices, we need these funds in order to continue to properly provide our services. If you have any better ideas that you think could work for our next fundraiser, please feel free to raise them. I would also like to remind that the Wikimedia Foundation also uses the same type of banners for their fundraiser, and they're one of the largest websites on the Internet. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:49, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I have repeatedly offered to pay to have that message suppressed.
 * THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION Rsterbal (talk) 18:19, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It means you've ignored Dmehus' message above, where he offered without paying for you to remove the banner from your wiki. Please read his message which tells you how to (easily) opt-out of the banner. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:22, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Rsterbal So, you could make a voluntary donation of whatever amount you can afford, then opt out of the central notice? Wouldn't that functionally accomplish the same aims of your proposed premium subscription model? That being said, I do like your premium subscription model idea. Dmehus (talk) 18:22, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * You cannot "opt-out" of the fundraiser banner using the mentioned setting. That only applies to notices sent or made using the configuration in the  repository.  18:27, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * R4356th Oh, interesting, I assumed that php variable applied to central notices, but I guess it just applies to the manual MediaWiki default sitenotices then? It's just weird because I thought only the central notices had an opt-out mechanism, not sitenotices. Dmehus (talk) 18:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)