User talk:Money12123

How to create wikis
Here's the link if you want to create a wiki. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWiki-- Iron Sword 23 (talk) 22:38, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That special page doesn't exist. Musicismylife (talk) 01:58, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Here. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWiki Iron Sword 23 (talk) 02:02, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Iron Sword 23 just included the  without a space following the link, so the link did not work. Dmehus (talk) 02:17, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Your wiki ideas
I noticed your blog about other Reception Wikis. I have plans to create two wikis for stores, however I have temporarily halted my future plans until I get unblocked from Qualitipedia and until the rebrand is complete. For reference, I will link your blog here: mh:crappygames:Blog:Uncreated/unknown wikis. I also noticed that you trimmed it down. I would like to create a new network so that we can lump a bunch of the non-Qualitipedia wikis together into their own network. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:09, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * In addition to that, I'd like the wikis to specifically be called Hateable Shops & Products Wiki and Adorable Shops & Products Wiki because I think "Shops & Products" sounds and looks better than "Products & Shops". I'm not 100% sure why I feel this way, probably because Shops is a shorter word than Products so Shops should go first. Also, about the new network, I think that it would be a good idea to make a network focused on reception related to real life rather than media. To be specific, wikis like the school wikis, the shops and products wikis and the action wikis (which is another idea I have) could go on the network. To avoid drama though, the Godawful Schools Wiki will only contain closed schools and the Decent Schools Wiki will have a rule saying that you should NOT add your own school to the wiki for your own safety. Musicismylife (talk) 08:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Musicismylife (talk) 09:34, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Sign your comments
Hello Musicismylife. I am Mazzaz. Please don't forget to sign your posts on the discussion pages by adding ~ at the end of your comment. Thanks! --Mazzaz (talk) 16:30, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Mazzaz My apologies for not signing before, I already know that you have to do that, I just kept forgetting. Musicismylife (talk) 22:28, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Quick deletion of User:Bluetigerelevenblue
The page you wrote, User:Bluetigerelevenblue, has been selected for quick deletion. If you think this page should be kept, please add wait below the line QD and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. You can find more information about the reason here. --Magogre (talk) 10:46, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

WP:2RE
Hello FatBurn0000, I am Magogre and I wanted to leave a note here about the page where you've reverted my edits. Presently, MediaWiki software doesn't follow the double redirects and user's aren't to encouraged to make ones. Double redirects are fixed by bots on other projects. But we don't have bots to do this task here, we sometimes put the effort to fix these. But it looks like you don't want us to fix a certain page because you like that, that way. Please see w:WP:2RE for information on double redirects and let me fix that page. Thank you. Ma͡gogre (talk) 05:11, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Can confirm that there is zero functional purpose for a page to redirect twice, in fact only inconvenience. I'm sure would agree. --Raidarr (talk) 09:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No idea why my opinion is needed but yes what you've not said is fine. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:23, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Regarding discussions
I have reverted an edit on DarkMatterMan's talk page via this edit for two reasons; one, because it is entirely incorrect by established conventions of Meta which you frankly should have seen by now across the noticeboards and even the above conversation and 2, because it disrupted my own reply and the reply to me that were following the far better established conventions that Meta uses. I ask that you do not enforce or continue to use an arbitrary spacing standard for discussions when in practice that is clearly not how it is typically used. If you need more rationale how the responses reply to each other, thus go down a chain of replies in a way similar to reddit format, I can explain for the conversation in question. Thank you. --Raidarr (talk) 23:32, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Right, but according to WP:TALKREPLY, that is how it is supposed to be. FatBurn0000 (talk) 02:04, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello
I apologise for my actions, I did not know I was not allowed to do what I did. Could I please be unblocked? FatBurn0000 (talk) 09:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It will have to wait until Trust & Safety decide whether to take any action or refer back to the community. If they choose to leave it up to the community, that would depend on why you thought it okay and whether I think it was an accident or deliberate outing. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  09:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't realise that it was a personal thing. I just thought that it was odd to not rename someone's talk page when they're renamed. Also, if it's a personal thing, then I just want to mention that by looking at the history and difference between revisions, it was still pretty clear that they were the same account, so the talk page should be deleted if anything. FatBurn0000 (talk) 09:18, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes the talk page probably should be removed alongside the userpage (which should have been when the account was deleted) but that's up to T&S to do. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  09:21, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * What's going on now? FatBurn0000 (talk) 03:47, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Doug to read his IRC PM ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:20, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Could I please be unblocked now? FatBurn0000 (talk) 08:28, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Still same situation. I've asked to check his PM multiple times.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  10:10, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no objections to FatBurn0000 being unblocked. I personally preferred a time-limited block of a week or two, if a block was required at all. This was a good-faith mistake, but one which was misguided. Dmehus (talk) 19:20, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Finally unblocked based on the above. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:52, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * RhinosF1, ✅. A quick comment re: your log summary, though I can see your rationale for consulting with the Trust and Safety team on this, per the guidance I received from Owen that this was not a Trust and Safety matter, it is really a local/global community decision on whether it's appropriate to link or not to link former anonymized, renamed, and locked user accounts that were otherwise ineligible to to consent to the legal user agreement with the apparent new user accounts that are now otherwise eligible/presumed to be eligible. While I suppose I could've made a comment from Doug, stating that Trust and Safety has no interest in expressing a view in this thread, I was replying mainly in a Meta administrator capacity since you pinged me for my opinion on the block/potential unblock. Dmehus (talk) 20:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't expect you to take 11 days to answer my PM asking you to put that in an email. I was well aware of that 11 days ago but I wanted it somewhere documented so if anyone asked in future I knew where it was. IRC logs are messy and hard to search. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  20:28, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Signature test
FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 23:23, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey
Why is ur name fatburn0000 Something (talk) 00:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I couldn't come up with anything else that's good. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 00:32, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

I just found out that Creative Wikis Wiki got declined.
I think it's because that the proposed wiki would allow pages on users, which may cause conflicts over a user having a page on the wiki or not. Tali64³ (talk) 14:23, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I was afraid that it would have libelous information or contain hateful content, so I declined it due to my concerns, unfortunately. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:55, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Why would it have hateful content? It's a positive wiki. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 20:31, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't even trust a title like that at first glance anyway. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:46, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Why not though? Also, no need to ping me, this is my talk page. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 20:55, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It just hit me that the problem that DarkMatterMan raised can be avoided by making sure that pages are supported by references, even though the wiki is positive in nature. Tali64³ (talk) 17:54, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I was gonna do that anyway. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 19:58, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 00:23, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

I have some bad news
The RfC I made failed. This means that we can't revive the wikis. Luckily, there are still 25 other Reception Wikis, 22 on Miraheze and 3 on ShoutWiki. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:14, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Also Amazing YouTubers Wiki, Perfection Roblox Games Wiki, and Garbage Roblox Games Wiki got reopened. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * no shit sherlock, it was doomed from the start, besides, archive.org exists. LovingHaydeL (talk) 03:29, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * We gotta figure out how to bring the wikis back on a external site that uses MediaWiki. Nidoking (talk) 11:44, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * tbh, I'd rather not bring them back. LovingHaydeL (talk) 15:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The only other MediaWiki wiki farms are either outdated or have to be paid for. The only other good wiki farm is ShouwWiki and their wiki creator is broken, and they also have a lot of ads. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Adblock exist LovingHaydeL (talk) 19:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Adding on to what LovingHaydeL said, I'd recommend Adblock Plus if ads are a problem for you. It's free and blocks most ads. Tali64³ (talk) 19:12, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Idk how to install an adblocker on a Mac, and I don't want to accidentally download a virus. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * There's Whiki in which they do wikis for Television, Movies, Gaming and Anime. So we could bring those wikis back there. They use MediaWiki for their service. Nidoking (talk) 19:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Or NeoSeeker as well. I just requested CGW on Whiki, so I gotta wait and see if it will be accepted or not. Nidoking (talk) 19:50, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok. So it seems like Whiki is our last hope, even though there is very little information about it online. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:22, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sticking with Miraheze, but what exactly is Whiki? Never heard of it Bawitdaba (talk) 22:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh wait, never mind -- I took a look. It's a commercialized ripoff of Miraheze, which is extremely messed up. Bawitdaba (talk) 23:20, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * cool. Have fun. I am planning to go back to my pre-reception wiki life. LovingHaydeL (talk) 22:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The only problem with that is, what will happen to the Literature wikis? Will they just be lost forever? Also does Whiki support dumps from other wiki farms? Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Commercialized rip-off or not, if NRW doesn't get reopened, then it is our second to last hope (if NRW doesn't get reopened and Whiki doesn't work out then there is always going independent and paying for our domain with ad revenue. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 14:02, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * what the heck is even going on here??? LovingHaydeL (talk) 02:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ignore that comment please LovingHaydeL (talk) 02:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, a couple of things:

FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 23:15, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Archive.org is not a way to continue wikis.
 * No, don't request or move the wiki to any other site. I haven't agreed to this yet, and more importantly, we don't need to move to another site.
 * Yes we do since Miraheze bans forking content and they refuse to change it. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:57, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Well yes, but we can start from scratch. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 23:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It would be easier just to get the dumps though so we can save their history. Also they won't let us copy pages since that is still forking. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 02:08, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, The New Reception Wiki is closed. So Whiki is our only hope. If they don't accept our request then we are doomed and Qualitipedia will be gone forever because Anananai gods forbid we fork a non-copyrighted network of closed wikis in order to preserve their history and continue the project, using the unitary system that TigerBlazer proposed (though he even hated his own system, which doesn't make sense. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:43, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If Whiki doesn't work out, then we may have to go independent. We can pay for the domains with ad revenue by hosting ads on the site, like with Wikisimpsons. There are plenty of independent wiki sites out there that are still in operation. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:51, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * However, we will have to use TigerBlazer's unitary wiki system and hope it works out. Please make a blog post on Qualitipedia Meta notifying everyone of this possible revival. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:52, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Make the blog post when you have something to post about. "Maybe we will go somewhere" is not news. --Raidarr (talk) 23:35, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes it is news. The fact that the wikis could be revived on Whiki or even independently is news. There has been significant backlash against the closure all across Qualitipedia Meta. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 01:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * All across like two or three threads from people who were under a rock and failed to vote in time. Terrifying. --Raidarr (talk) 02:24, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Please stop it. It is better we start from scratch, as there have been lots of complaints about pages anyway, also the discussion about the NRW is still ongoing. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 01:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I have to to what FatBurn said, there are multiple issues with the wikis so a fresh start would be better. --  Bukkit  [ cetacean needed ] 01:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Well those people's opinions should still be taken into account. There is resistance forming to this decision. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * But nine years of history will be lost! Blubabluba9990 (talk) 01:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * And it would take much longer to start from scratch then to just import the dumps. But no, the Content Policy says we can't import dumps of closed wikis. If Whiki doesn't work out, then we go independent, and put ads on our site so we can pay for the domain with ad revenue. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 01:53, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Blubabluba9990 You're better off starting over from scratch (longer but better) than just import the dumps as the QP have multiple issues that ruined Miraheze's reputation (due to someone who can't distinguish Qualitipedia from Miraheze, therefore hating the Miraheze itself). TF3RDL (talk &#124; contribs &#124; FANDOM &#124; Wikipedia) 01:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Then wouldn't it be easier to move to another service. I refuse to start over from scratch and leave nine years of user contributions to die. We can import the dumps and clean up the existing articles, rather han just recreating the articles. or, we can simply wait for the current wikis to be deleted. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, even if we do import the dump files, the discussion of the NRW being closed is not finished yet, so wait for it. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 02:03, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * what is even happening here:??? LovingHaydeL (talk) 02:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to convince Bluba (and to an extent, Nidoking) that we don't need to move to another service. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 10:40, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If you are talking about the discussion on Agent Isai's talk page, then it does seem to be finished. Also, we can always wait for the current wikis to be deleted. That said, we should also archive Qualitipedia Meta's content on NRW when that wiki gets deleted. I do hope NRW gets reopened though, because they are considering forbidding me from discussing Qualitipedia here on Meta Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:40, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also we should archive the pages on the Websites wikis, since there has also been backlash against those wikis closing. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I also suggest that we form a Qualitipedia Government in Exile (or QGE for short), the leader of which will be FatBurn0000. Also now that I think about it, starting from scratch may not be that bad of an idea, especially since we can recreate them using TigerBlazer's unitary system. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 13:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Though we are technically the Qualitipedia Government in Exile already, since we are currently the remnants of Qualitipedia. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 14:16, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I changed my mind. I will allow the pages to be remade from scratch, as long as all pages are remade from scratch and we do not exclude any. This is if NRW does re-open. For now the base of operations for the QGE will be here on Meta until NRW re-opens. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
 * if anyone is reading this, and doesn't know what whiki (or its website) is, here it is. (I know FatBurn doesn't want to switch services, but I'm putting this up in case anyone is interested, in fact, I think it could be a plan B to open the wikis again, if NRW doesn't reopen, and Bluba is blocked from talking about QP on Miraheze.) Juan90980 (talk) 00:36, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Forget what I said about plan B, it wouldn't work because they declined requests for "Awesome Games Wiki" and "Crappy Games Wiki" on Whiki. Juan90980 (talk) 00:54, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Well if NRW doesn't get reopened we may have to go independent. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)