User talk:松

This section without headings is the link page of the archive.--松 (talk) 15:18, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Archive 0(2019)

Requests for Comment/Code of Conduct Commission reform‎‎
Matsu, I have complained to that our "Requests for Comment" are not requests for comment but formal votes that will affect Miraheze rules. So he deliberately conducted a drafting-and-public-comment period in his userspace, gave notification at Community noticeboard, and received comment from other editors. This was the time to make additional proposals. There should be two periods: discussion, then decision. In the decision period, we should not have a new proposal, "Let's do this instead!" If you want to vote to oppose, explaining that we should do something else instead, other voters will read it and decide and maybe change their votes. 12:18 15-Jun-2020
 * The whole system and changes are a bit confusing so it's understandable if new users might not get the hang of it initially. While at the beginning I did things differently for the RfC process after your suggestion I tested out involving users in the drafting process and asking that comments about wording and grammar as well as new proposals are done there. I've noticed that this method works better: wording and proposals are done in the drafting page, comments about the actual merit of each proposal are done in the voting/RfC phase so I will definitely be doing it this way from now on and will make the procedure more clear on top of each draft page. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 12:35, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice.I think I couldn't meet the deadline when I submitted my proposal.The advice given by Spike and Reception123 is very much appreciated for me.I will study more about miraheze.--松 (talk) 12:52, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I am working on a proposal at User:Spike/RfC reform.   12:56 15-Jun-2020
 * Thank you for your invitation.--松 (talk) 14:21, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * And thanks for your input, most recently on Autoarchive, which I've incorporated into the text.


 * PS--Why don't you include "Matsu" (in Romanji) in your signature? On my only PC that supports TLS 2.0 and can talk to Miraheze, I don't see Asian characters at all; and even if I did, I wouldn't know how to sound it out.   19:54 15-Jun-2020
 * I changed the signature and saw it.Please give any advice if there is any improvement.--松(Please call me "Matsu") (talk) 00:28, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, to make it more concise, just put forward Matsu as your name:
 * 松•Matsu (talk) 00:28...
 * In either sequence.  00:59 16-Jun-2020
 * Thank you for the advice.I like the simple design, so I like it.--松•Matsu (talk) 12:51, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Removal of redirect at User talk:Examknow
Hi 松,

When I saw Examknow's user talk page show up in the Special:RecentChanges, at first I didn't see any real need to redirect it to his userpage but I also didn't immediately see any problem with it, either. I checked with on Discord, who also didn't see any problem with it. I see you have undone the redirect at this edit diff, so that suggests we should decide how to handle this. The more I thought about it, clicking on "discussion" from Examknow's user page immediately redirects one back to the user page, creating an effective infinite loop (until one decides to stop clicking). Personally, if a redirect is kept, and I have no objection to that, I think it should be a soft redirect to Examknow's user page. I'm going to ping RhinosF1 here as well, since we discussed it via Discord.

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 23:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)