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Question
hi excuse me but in my wikitrash I can not see anything and I am told that in order to see my wikis or even the contributions I have to be part of my group. can anyone help me out of this situation ?? when I go to wikitrash the only thing I see is "NOT SUFFICIENT PERMITS" A1cb3 (talk) 22:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi! So, a quick look at CentralAuth reveals that the issue is exactly that, you don't have the necessary user rights to access the wiki because it is a private wiki. The people that can help you are the Stewards, this is the Meta admin noticeboard, they can't help you. I'll move your thread over to the Stewards noticeboard.
 * I also noticed that you're not the original founder of that wiki, checked using the farmer log. If local admins decided to remove you, it is very unlikely Stewards will intervene. OrangeStar (talk) 22:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thread moved from the meta administration noticeboard . OrangeStar (talk) 22:24, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Dormancy Policy exemption for
After an anonymous user made a report about Decyclopedia on this noticeboard in October, I announced that Decyclopedia was moving to an independent domain. That issue has since been resolved, but I still went ahead with the move, completing it by importing the images to the new domain last night. I would like a Dormancy Policy exemption for the Decyclopedia on Miraheze, since that wiki has now been archived and is no longer meant to be edited. Tali64³ (talk) 21:05, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If the wiki moved, why does it need an exemption? Wouldn't a deletion be better? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:38, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If the wiki were to be deleted, visitors would be confused on why the wiki suddenly disappeared. Google's search results still show the Miraheze version, so it would be necessary to keep it up until the new domain appears in search results and all the relevant links are updated. Tali64³ (talk) 14:24, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Exemption Request
Can you please add an exemption to our The Lion King wiki? It's private and meant to be viewed by us and our other irl friends only. Admittedly we don't have much on it yet, but we will be adding more content to it soon.

https://thelionking.miraheze.org/wiki/ Keznen (talk) 17:17, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * ❌ I myself revoked your Dormancy Policy exemption as you had not used the wiki in years per Special:Log. Before today, you had 1 page with 2 sentences on the wiki. As such, I will not be inclined to grant it until much later once you have a good number of substantive pages. 1 page after 4 years of a wiki being open does not justify an exemption. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:18, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If we add more full pages next week, would we still have to wait until "much later"?
 * Also, what would "a good number of substantive pages" be? We can go ahead and copy off one of the public TLK wikis and edit out the stuff that doesn't adhere to our canon if need be.
 * But we can't add something like 50 pages with full paragraphs when our TLK universe doesn't have that amount of content yet. It simply isn't possible. Most characters are minor and wouldn't have that much to be said about them.
 * Please clarify so we can decide whether to keep our The Lion King wiki here or try to find somewhere else to host it (ShoutWiki if that gets fixed, not sure where we'll move it otherwise since Wikia/FANDUMB is unusable). Keznen (talk) 22:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, you would have to wait. You've held an empty wiki for 4 entire years without any need to have activity on it, a privilege none of our 5,000 other wikis and 10,000 wikis ever created on Miraheze had, have, or will ever have, and would've probably not returned to it any time soon had your exemption not been revoked and an email sent to you about your wiki being closed. Please read Dormancy Policy for information on how we determine requests. We will be inclined to grant a request once your wiki has a good number of pages and once time has passed. Your pages don't have to be huge paragraphs but the wiki has to be of substantive value and not just the one singular stub page your wiki had for over 4 years. For example, if your wiki discusses more topics in depth and more aspects of your universe then that'd count as substantive and I'd be inclined to regrant the exemption. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 01:46, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Well we will not wait another 4 years or even 1 year. We couldn't if we wanted to. We don't have that time even with schoolwork and writer's block aside.
 * If we have to wait a long time even after adding more content, we might as well not add anything at all. Why go through the effort for basically nothing? If the wiki is still in danger of being nuked we might as well not risk losing anything substantial. Especially infoboxes, which we don't have for our TLK Wiki yet and don't have any backups of. Maybe we'll add a little occasionally but we won't go adding tons of stuff if there's a looming threat of it being deleted.
 * Also, again, we mostly just have character pages in mind right now. We have a couple things of our own lore written down, but most stuff about the first movie (the only fully canon movie in our TLK universe; the sequel movie and show aren't for the most part) would have to pulled from elsewhere. We can only post what we have already and what we can find elsewhere that's usable. (Writer's block is a pain.)
 * We'll touch up the pages with some much-needed pictures and some basic info, and then just keep bumping it every few days until ShoutWiki finally fixes their broken creation wizard so we can move it there and delete the one here. Keznen (talk) 02:59, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm very glad to hear that 4 more years or even 1 more will not pass. As a reminder, you can backup your own wiki at Special:DataDump and Miraheze wikis are only deleted after 6-12 months of inactivity. If you add character pages then that'd be wonderful and would certainly help build your case towards an exemption. Hope to see your exemption application in a few weeks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:59, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, phew! We'll continue adding more character pages, then. The templates should be working now so hopefully we'll have at least half of the character pages up in the following weeks.
 * Sorry for jumping the gun on you like that. It's been stressful for us all lately. Keznen (talk) 04:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Adding steward on my wiki for my account
I want to add steward on my account for my wiki easwiki.miraheze.org Please and thank you. Lolkikmoddi (talk) 14:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Please read User_groups. This group is only self-granted to Stewards on extremely rare occasions and you are not a Steward. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * ohhh ok sorry Lolkikmoddi (talk) 16:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Please revoke dormancy exemption for modular.miraheze.org
modular.miraheze.org is not in use, it can be deleted. Rob Kam (talk) 18:50, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 19:30, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

i'd like to be globally locked
my time in miraheze has finally come to an end. with qualitipedia gone and nothing else to do here, i want my account to be globally locked for good, with no chance of appealing the lock

RokettoPanchi (talk) 09:28, 12 November 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅. Please note that should you decide to come back you should email stewards[at]miraheze[dot]org and not create a new account. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 11:05, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Dormancy policy exception for hepro.miraheze.org
Please make a dormancy policy exception for the hepro.miraheze.org Wiki. This Wiki contains mostly unchanging information that does not need frequent updates. Thanks in advance!

Vesala (talk) 12:49, 14 November 2022 (UTC) Vesala (talk) 12:49, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there, would you be able to provide a bit more explanation as to why you feel a Dormancy Policy exemption is necessary? I get that you feel the wiki has mostly unchanging information, but perhaps an example would be good? Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contribs • global • rights) 03:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Could you remove the link posted on MarioMario456's userpage?
https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/User:MarioMario456

It contains a link to a website that contains harassment pages filled with doxxed info and some of them harass the deceased, the contents on the site contain CP, Child Abuse, and other illegal content. I believe this needs to be done, for the safety of the users. Nidoking (talk) 14:27, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Login Wiki
Okay, technically this doesn't need steward attention, but more like Login Wiki admin attention. The issue is that I want my userpage to be deleted. Thank you. CRAB-2 (talk) 17:25, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Done. -- Void  Whispers 21:09, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

I forget my password!!!
I'm Korbsov, but I forget my password so that I create this account AtheistWH. I didn't enter my email when I used the account Korbsov so that now I have trouble...... AtheistWH (talk) 13:13, 27 November 2022 (UTC)


 * See reset lost credentials. As you don't have an email associated, SRE is unable to verify if you really are Korbsov, so we can't reset that account. Sorry. OrangeStar (talk) 13:40, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Allistayrian
Hello, I would like to request a reversible vanish from Miraheze. I created an account just to contribute to Qualitipedia, which eventually has shut down and I have no intention of ever coming back to Miraheze. I recently visited Miraheze once in August-September 2022 and earlier on March of the same year. There's really little chance I'll ever come back here again. Allistayrian (talk) 22:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

= Permissions =

Removal
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Hispano76@metawiki
Hello, I request the removal of my Wiki Creator permission. I reserve my right not to clarify the reasons for the termination. --Hispano76 (talk) 02:07, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅, thank you for your service! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:30, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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Enable Cargo
Hi, I would like to request the Cargo extension for my wiki. The pages depends mostly on structured data for various information on works we want to document, such as author, genre, format, related titles, etc., and there will be a lot of entries. (Our excel sheet has already exceeded 500 rows, and we've barely scratched the surface.) In the future. Cargo will help with storing the data in a better, more accessible format. Thanks in advance. Rocielshinonome (talk) 06:22, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Averagesocdemenjoyer15@metawiki

 * This has been ✅ by Agent Isai. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:45, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like we may have yet another evasion/re-request, please see the fourth user I just added. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 00:39, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Melba_Fiona

 * Sockpuppet of and used for lock evasion. AlPaD (talk) 19:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Users is now ✅ --The user who loves human heads on alien/animal bodies in cartoons for no reason (talk to me uwu!) 15:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Users is now ✅ --The user who loves human heads on alien/animal bodies in cartoons for no reason (talk to me uwu!) 15:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Multilock

 * Sockpuppet used for lock evasion. --富士見野男 (talk) 08:51, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I've merged all your reports on a single thread for easier management. Can you elaborate on how these are sockpuppets used for lock evasion? OrangeStar (talk) 18:19, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * irrelevant page Move repeat in chakuriki.miraheze.org --富士見野男 (talk) 11:01, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, marking as not done. OrangeStar (talk) 11:13, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Four Leaf Fics

 * The wiki in question was deleted by a Steward for violations of the Content Policy, specifically the provision prohibiting sexual content related to minors. Tali64³ (talk) 19:42, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, appears there were sweeping content policy changes in October 2022 (and specifically the addition of written fictional content to this policy) that meant this wiki can no longer be hosted here. Can you close this request? Startle Stars (talk) 22:15, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Marking as not done, wiki was deleted for policy violations. OrangeStar (talk) 12:50, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

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Ucronias Wiki

 * --Hispano76 (talk) 21:13, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, this is now done. -- Void  Whispers 22:12, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi User:Void, on this topic. The Wiki was affected by error db141 ., and had to be recreated. Could you redo the extension on my wiki please. --Hispano76 (talk) 00:41, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Real Life Villains Wiki Potential Content Policy Violations?
At least 95% of the pages on there, do not have a source for reference. Considering that this wiki also features Internet users, I believe the wikis need to be warned for not having references to what they did wrong (EX: News report, or Wikipedia info) and they should delete pages that do not have sources. Nidoking (talk) 19:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Moved to wiki reports. --Blad  (talk • contribs • global) 20:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with Nidoking, there are some pages throwing the kind of accusations you don't want to throw without solid references. Some sanction is in order. OrangeStar (talk) 21:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you provide some examples? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:22, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * There are various pages on there that don't have any references at all, like this page for example https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Jake_Martin and https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Heather_Martin Nidoking (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Any update? Nidoking (talk) 14:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * All the wiki really. When it covers relatively unknown living people being accused of stuff like child abuse, murder, and all that, it shouldn't assume that these are common knowledge, they should include solid references for such claims. OrangeStar (talk) 19:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe at this juncture it would be ideal to raise the idea locally and see how receptive local managers are to cleaning up sources. Seeing how willing they are on this in public could give Stewards some ground to raise this topic as a priority if their intervention is required. --Raidarr (talk) 15:42, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll give that a try. OrangeStar (talk) 19:33, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Listen, what the wikis say will be heard of, and people will use that as their source much more than anything else.
 * If you're gonna go out of your way to get a wiki meant to educate people about real life villains and why people should not be them, then that means you are enabling bad people. RoboticBloxxer (talk) 17:34, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The concern raised here is that the wiki is mostly unsourced. Given that it has many articles dealing with people, this could be a potential violation of CP 3 (and anyway, ignoring whatever the policy may say, it's best to include sources for the claims in any article whenever it's dealing with real life stuff, be it living people or other things). It's not our intention to enable bad people. OrangeStar (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Complicated issues with Polcompball Wiki
Was browsing the wiki during my unallocated free time, and I noticed that the local admins are planning to ban those 14 and under, which prolly violates the CoC. I attempted to raise the issues with the local admins as instructed by the CoC, but creation of pages in the user talk namespace was restricted. As such, I am posting about it here. Firestar464 (talk) 10:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


 * 13 and under is against the Terms of Service. 14 is not required under the terms of service but the code of conduct makes no mention of this. Mostly it is a privacy issue and an irrelevant and redundant rule: they have no right or means to verify this and T&S only cares one year below. So it's a bit of a dumb rule for this reason.
 * Community discussion there takes place on their discord server, which should be found on their front page. --Raidarr (talk) 14:21, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The Code of Conduct governs how users should behave. Wikis are free to restrict those under a certain age above 13. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

= Discussion closure =

Kindly close RfC about CP amendments
This has been kind of left alone for a few days now. Can someone kindly close the RfC? Thank you! Firestar464 (talk) 09:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

= Miscellaneous =

My wiki lost its immunity to the Dormancy Policy
Hi there, I'm the creator of the Crazybloxian Empire info wiki, which was one of my oldest worldbuilding projects. I had informed the people here many years ago that it was meant to be read and would not be updated for months, which gave it immunity to the Dormancy Policy. I recently found out when checking my mail that the immunity was revoked when I got an email saying the wiki had been closed. May I know exactly why it was revoked?

I don't use this website much, but I do wish for my wiki to remain up for archival purposes.

And yes, I did download a full data dump of the site. •• Fair0002 • Bureaucrat and Administrator of Crazybloxian Empire Wiki 07:13, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I revoked it as it was chronically inactive, empty, and unread. Please add a few more pages or show some signs of activity and we will consider regranting, thanks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * What exactly counts as "activity"? If I never add any new content but show up every few days to fix spelling and grammar does that count as enough activity for Dormancy Policy immunity? •• Fair0002 • Bureaucrat and Administrator of Crazybloxian Empire Wiki 10:39, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess so The user who loves human heads on alien/animal bodies in cartoons for no reason (talk to me uwu!) 16:37, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Averagesocdemenjoyer15@metawiki

 * This has been ✅ by Agent Isai. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:45, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like we may have yet another evasion/re-request, please see the fourth user I just added. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 00:39, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

The Real Red Man
Please delete meThe Real Red Man (talk) 05:57, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there . Do you mean delete as in a global lock, or in accordance with the GDPR? Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 06:00, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * global lock please!
 * ty The Real Red Man (talk) 06:01, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Pinging to assist. Would you be able to provide some reasoning for why you'd like this lock? Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 06:15, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:20, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Melba_Fiona

 * Sockpuppet of and used for lock evasion. AlPaD (talk) 19:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Users is now ✅ --The user who loves human heads on alien/animal bodies in cartoons for no reason (talk to me uwu!) 15:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Users is now ✅ --The user who loves human heads on alien/animal bodies in cartoons for no reason (talk to me uwu!) 15:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Multilock

 * Sockpuppet used for lock evasion. --富士見野男 (talk) 08:51, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I've merged all your reports on a single thread for easier management. Can you elaborate on how these are sockpuppets used for lock evasion? OrangeStar (talk) 18:19, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * irrelevant page Move repeat in chakuriki.miraheze.org --富士見野男 (talk) 11:01, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, marking as not done. OrangeStar (talk) 11:13, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Four Leaf Fics

 * The wiki in question was deleted by a Steward for violations of the Content Policy, specifically the provision prohibiting sexual content related to minors. Tali64³ (talk) 19:42, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, appears there were sweeping content policy changes in October 2022 (and specifically the addition of written fictional content to this policy) that meant this wiki can no longer be hosted here. Can you close this request? Startle Stars (talk) 22:15, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Marking as not done, wiki was deleted for policy violations. OrangeStar (talk) 12:50, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

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Ucronias Wiki

 * --Hispano76 (talk) 21:13, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, this is now done. -- Void  Whispers 22:12, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi User:Void, on this topic. The Wiki was affected by error db141 ., and had to be recreated. Could you redo the extension on my wiki please. --Hispano76 (talk) 00:41, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

TimeWisely

 * note: the wiki is wiki.timewisely.net. OrangeStar (talk) 14:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:19, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Complicated issues with Polcompball Wiki
Was browsing the wiki during my unallocated free time, and I noticed that the local admins are planning to ban those 14 and under, which prolly violates the CoC. I attempted to raise the issues with the local admins as instructed by the CoC, but creation of pages in the user talk namespace was restricted. As such, I am posting about it here. Firestar464 (talk) 10:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


 * 13 and under is against the Terms of Service. 14 is not required under the terms of service but the code of conduct makes no mention of this. Mostly it is a privacy issue and an irrelevant and redundant rule: they have no right or means to verify this and T&S only cares one year below. So it's a bit of a dumb rule for this reason.
 * Community discussion there takes place on their discord server, which should be found on their front page. --Raidarr (talk) 14:21, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The Code of Conduct governs how users should behave. Wikis are free to restrict those under a certain age above 13. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

= Discussion closure =

Kindly close RfC about CP amendments
This has been kind of left alone for a few days now. Can someone kindly close the RfC? Thank you! Firestar464 (talk) 09:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

= Miscellaneous =

Wiki Backup Restoration Request
Hello, I am the creator for the wiki with the subdomain acheronrho.miraheze.org, it also redirects using the custom URL beaconspace.unrestrictedlorefare.com. It has been affected by the db141 outage and since recreated, but I have been unable to find an XML backup to use the Special Import Request form. I would like please for the Acheron Rho Wiki to be restored to the Miraheze October 2021 backups. If this is in the wrong place I apologise. Thank you for your hard work. Turbo566 (talk) 17:52, 10 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, that wiki seems to have been a private wiki (Special:RequestWikiQueue/13465, Special:Redirect/logid/338229). For privacy reasons, private wikis are opted-out of archive.org backups. Only public wikis have archive.org backups. It appears there may be private XML dumps in the servers (Backups), nevermind what I wrote. OrangeStar (talk) 18:41, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Is this your wiki? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:17, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It is, Thank you very much for your assistance Turbo566 (talk) 04:07, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Backup Restoration Request
Hi, I am the owner for the wiki wiki.insideearth.info (insideearth.miraheze.org). This wiki has been affected by the db141 outage and since recreated, but I have been unable to find an XML backup to use the Special Import Request form. I would like please for the insideearth Wiki to be restored to the Miraheze August 2022 backups. Thank You AlphaOmega (talk) 00:01, 11 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there. Is this your wiki? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:16, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi!, oh yes it looks like it is. AlphaOmega (talk) 12:13, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * When going to "Special:RequestImportDump" it says "Disabled - Import dump requests are disabled on this wiki. Please request an import dump from the central wiki." AlphaOmega (talk) 15:25, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This is the central wiki. Click on Special:RequestImportDump and fill the form. If you need help let us know. OrangeStar (talk) 15:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * logged a request here: ⚓ T10123 Wiki Restore (miraheze.org) AlphaOmega (talk) 18:52, 11 December 2022 (UTC)