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Slow servers / and/or/ slow to login.
Hello. Unfortunately, today 22 January, Miraheze servers were ridiculously slow today, as shown in the section above. It seemed to stabilize now, and has improved (previously it was really good until today). So, one part that has always intrigued me since the day of the update is that it takes a long time to log in to Miraheze (most of the time, 502 bad gateway errors occur). It takes up to several seconds to complete the login, eventually a 502 occurs, which when it occurs we have to fill out the form again and try again! And ball for another eternity. Honestly, I expected more after the migration. The servers may even have been improved (decreasing the delay), but not in the case of login. What is your opinion on this? Does this happen to you? (delay when logging in). --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 21:30, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * As you yourself know very well from the discussions on Discord, stuff happens. Computers will be computers and there'll always be little blips that will occur. This'll hopefully pass soon and there is really no need to make a thread to discuss this unless it's persistent and even then, a discussion on Discord/IRC would probably be better than a Community noticeboard thread. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:46, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * When you mentioned computers I prefer to think that you cited an example: my computer is not so good, but not so bad either. "No need to make a thread to discuss this unless it's persistent", actually this has been going on for days, and it's probably persistent. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 22:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

A problem with Phabricator
I went on Phabricator, and it told me to click the MediaWiki button below and connect with my Miraheze wiki account. However, there are multiple problems: FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 23:42, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) There is no "MediaWiki button", or at least, I don't know what they're talking about.
 * 2) They claim that my username and password is invalid for some reason.
 * 3) They say that my username and password is incorrect.
 * The passwords and username are invalid because you don't have a phabricator account. You must accept the OAuth permission, then it will log in by itself. What do you mean there isn't a MediaWiki button? I believe it's confusion of Fat because it's happened to me to disappear (after I fill in the login form). --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just to make sure, I've outlined the area that's necessary to click first after hitting the login button. It's the only valid one to use and if you don't see it, something is wrong. I know it was down for some time after transition, but that was fixed. If you still don't see it, you may need to reset your cache for miraheze/phabricator or on desktop, hit alt+f5 to force a refresh. --Raidarr (talk) 11:38, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Create a specific AN for incident reporting
I recently made a RfC explaining to terms a new noticeboard that would especially fit the blocks (global and local) and incident reports in Meta. However, all voted against, with one user citing "not against the idea, plus the fact of an RfC for it" as well as another opponent (3–4 of votes are mixed, two cite not against the idea, another quotes "Per", but has supported the idea in the past). Definitely weak consensus, let's say. Where do I get this? If I don't need an RfC. I wish I had an answer. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 06:31, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, Special:IncidentReports actually already exists for this very thing; however, SRE, admittedly, has not been keeping up with IRs of late. Dmehus (talk) 06:34, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YF's meaning is specifically for incidents involving blocks and locks, not the technical reports per the linked special page. --Raidarr (talk) 09:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I actually have more opinion on that - there should be a new channel in the discord server and a new IRC channel for that (if #cvt doesn't already do that).  Anpang 📨 09:39, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The #cvt channel does, and is typically the first destination for that. --Raidarr (talk) 09:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Cannot login to Phabricator
I currently cannot login to Phabricator. First, there is no "MediaWiki" button at https://phabricator.miraheze.org/auth/start/?next=%2F. Second, when I try to login to Phabricator using my GitHub account, an error like the following is shown:

Unhandled Exception ("HTTPFutureCURLResponseStatus")

[cURL/7] (https://github.com/login/oauth/access_token)  The cURL library raised an error while making a request. You may be able to find more information about this error (error code: 7) on the cURL site: http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html#CURLECOULDNTCONNECT

So, when will logging in to Phabricator start working again (with both the "GitHub" and the "MediaWiki" buttons shown)? GTrang (talk) 22:26, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Now, the "MediaWiki" button is back (and logging in using the Miraheze account works), but logging in using the GitHub account still gives the same error message regardless of whether I was logged in on Miraheze or not. This issue has been reported at T8617. GTrang (talk) 23:24, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Phabricator is being wonky lately. I'm sure someone is working on this. 29TB (talk) 20:26, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @GTrang As of right now, logging in using the MediaWiki button works, and it goes through Miraheze, as usual. I was informed the Github button is not the one to use (disabled or non-working because it doesn't use Miraheze username or associate to a Miraheze account they can follow), in case that is helpful. | -- FrozenPlum  (Talk / Email)

Importing templates
Hello guys, Could someone please help me out? I am having trouble importing templates to my Wiki, I tried both the export/import method and the copypaste method, they do not work for me, and I am not skilled enough to make templates on my own. I would like to have two templates on my Wiki: The birth date and age template seems especially confusing even though I thought it would be an easy one as it seems just a calculator template. I would need these two for my Wiki, I don't know if someone has time and is willing to help me with it, I would be very grateful. ShaytonSky (talk) 20:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * https://template.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Birth_date_and_age
 * It seems these templates also rely on Modules to be imported. Also, when importing something from another wiki try to make sure you import everything it depends on. I could try to help out here shortly if you'd like. Hypercane  (  talk ) 21:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Uh-oh, if Moduls are involved I give it up, that is extremely hard to even understand for me, not to mention editing them... Would it be easier to create an infobox and an age calculator from zero on my wiki? Would it be even possible? Thank you very much by the way. --ShaytonSky (talk) 21:36, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I would think creating it from scratch or perhaps even checking the edit history of the template(s) would be optimal. I'm pretty sure in the edit history there's a version that didn't rely on modules. Hypercane  (  talk ) 21:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I tried checking several old versions of the Birth date and age template, but all revisions sound like they were written in Chinese to me, I understand nothing about those expressions, values, incorporated templates etc. I never thought it would be this complicated, I thought it would be a simple copypaste from another wiki... It seems like I have two choices left: I either commission someone who is professional in this field and can make the templates for me, or I give up this stuff entirely and create infoboxes 'manually' by filling in empty wikitables or such. They would be ugly, but I know no better option unfortunately. --ShaytonSky (talk) 22:12, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sorry about that. I am still willing to help you in any way I can. Could I perhaps give this a try? Hypercane  (  talk ) 22:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your help and your offer, of course you can give it a try if you want to, I would really appreciate it! --ShaytonSky (talk) 22:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll give it my best shot. Thank you. Hypercane  (  talk ) 22:25, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm following up to essentially mark this as . I hope you have fun with the template(s) and your wiki! Also, please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you need more assistance. Hypercane  (  talk ) 02:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

User groups disappeared
Hi! In Miraheze, there was an update that redirects all groups (on all wikis, even though they have a page for it) to User groups. In mine, and in many wikis, there was a bug that eliminates user groups!, see an example in this wiki. Passing by to inform about it. Thanks! --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 21:53, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hmm, that's strange indeed. I would definitely pass this on to Phabricator for instance as this does not seem normal at all. Hopefully it gets resolved for you. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 21:56, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm still wondering if this is really suitable for phabricator (or if there's a task in progress). It really is weird. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * We noticed that issue occur on another wiki but strangely, it does not affect some wikis. I'll forward this to SRE. Thanks, Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:12, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Change the appearance of audio files?
Hi there, My audio files appear in a gray form that I don't like as you can see here : https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Fichier:Youre-too-slow.ogg But I would like them to appear as in the form here : https://www.pokepedia.fr/Fichier:Cri_4_d_025.ogg Thanks in advance for your help. Darkrai18 (talk) 12:46, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not normal? See an example at Wikimedia Commons of an OGG file. I myself have uploaded OGG files and they were like this. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 17:43, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's really strange. I'd really like to find a solution to fix this. Darkrai18 (talk) 21:10, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * At Special:ManageWiki/extensions > media handlers tab, change from extension TimedMediaHandler to extension EmbedVideo --Rob Kam (talk) 14:26, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Hiding the "Donate to Miraheze", "Hosted by Miraheze" and "Powered by MediaWiki", and how to change the Terms of Use direct to my own one on my own wiki?
How do I hide stuff like "Donate to Miraheze", "Hosted by Miraheze", "Powered by MediaWiki", and change the Terms of Use to direct to my own Terms of Use (I've seen this before!) TheWiki (talk) 15:06, 26 January 2022 (UTC)The W1ki


 * @TheWiki You can't hide Donate to Miraheze or Hosted by Miraheze. Why would you want to? SoyokoAnis  15:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello! To hide the Powered by MediaWiki and hosted by Miraheze buttons, use li#footer-poweredbyico { display: none;} in your wiki's MediaWiki.common.css, and to hide the links in the Terms footer de Uso and Donate to Miraheze, use; li#footer-places-termsofservice { display: none;} (to hide the terms of use link) and li#footer-places-donate { display: none;} ( to hide the Donate to Miraheze link). But the question remains: why do you want to hide the links of "Donate to Miraheze", and that will not only help Miraheze, as only the servers of all wikis, including yours, donations help the servers to be more fast. I have the impression that you are trying to hide that your wiki is Miraheze, or simply assuming that they are "Wordmark". I would be more embarrassed to host a wiki on FANDOM. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 18:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Additionally, you can change the page that "Terms of Use" links to by changing MediaWiki:Termsofservicepage. However, should you change the "Terms of Use" link, I would advise you link inside your new Terms of Use page a link to the global Terms of Use (all users are bound it and all global policies). And on top of that, I am also curious why one would wish to hide the "Donate to Miraheze" button. We are, after all, a free service that runs exclusively on donations. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:14, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Nobody would want to Donate to Miraheze, I do not want people to waste their money on a free Wiki hosting service. Also, I'm not trying to hide it, they would still see the domain name anyway. TheWiki (talk) 02:45, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It may be a free wiki hosting platform, but to host something like Miraheze is most definitely not free. I don't know the specifics on how much it costs to run a site like this though it probably is a lot. So if people want to donate it would help them out too. As for your statement on "nobody would want to donate to Miraheze" that is quite honestly false. People have donated and will most likely continue to donate. All in all, I don't mind you want to potentially get rid of the donation link on your wiki...but please don't say it's a waste to donate because it is not. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 02:52, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There are people who donate to Miraheze (see Finance page, for example). Also, the donations are done to keep Miraheze well, I would donate if I had the money as it offers voluntary service unlike wiki farms like ShoutWiki (which puts a bitter price on removing ads) or FANDOM. So it's not mandatory, but it's necessary, because the site doesn't have ads and only survives on that. That's why I recommend that you keep this link in the footer, it's better for everyone. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger  ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Issue with infoboxes
Hello! It's not the first time that I ask for help with this particular issue. The other attempts on my part did not lead anywhere, as no Steward could offer any help due to a lack of information from my part. In anycase, that's a mistake that I don't intend on commiting this time.

After importing some .xml files from other wikis, I somehow managed to break all infoboxes, as shown on this link: (It's a Imgur link with screenshots).

Any help is extremely appreciated. -- IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 21:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Still waiting. -- IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 14:34, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * So firstly, please note that this is actually a matter for the Community noticeboard. Aside from that I can try to render some assistance here, moving to the community noticeboard if you would like. Since the wiki this is on is private I cannot troubleshoot directly. Breaking the infoboxes indicates something from your imports overwrote them or some component of them. A key culprit may be your MediaWiki:Common.css file. If it was overwritten, you may have your problem right there, otherwise I'd look into old versions of the infoboxes and any content that affects them in styling. --Raidarr (talk) 09:25, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Right. Thanks for the help, in any case. I would be extremely grateful about moving this to the Community noticeboard, if that isn't too much trouble. And, in any case, I could make the wiki public to help with troubleshooting. Again: Thanks for the help. -- IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 10:06, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Quiz about wiki creations
Some user (preferably WC), can do a quiz on example wiki requests and I'll try to get it right (approve/decline). Thanks! --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:48, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like nobody cares --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 16:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just because nobody responded (yet), doesn't mean nobody cares. Everyone has their own lives. 29TB (talk) 20:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fact. Therefore, because it is unwilling. There are things for them to solve in Meta, and that takes time. They're not so interested in doing. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I intended to assemble an odd 5-6 interesting edge cases for this prompt, but I must admit it is not at the top of my list, mainly because on my part it will entail some digging to get appropriate historic scenarios. I'm particularly interested in prompting for those which have a degree of disagreement between wiki creators, as to better test discretion and offered rationale. --Raidarr (talk) 20:37, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't quite understand your comment. But I was wondering what exactly "odd 5-6 interesting edge cases" means. I'm inclined to know how a wiki request is handled, not least because I think my knowledge is far, far from limited. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The quiz is created here. I opted to add a few more to be comprehensive and make a process that more fully encompasses how requests work. Feel free to address answers at your own time. It's a lot at once, but response time is not an element in the scenario. --Raidarr (talk) 22:02, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Problem with templates in visual editor
I wanted to make templates for a character in a story, with infoboxes (using Portable infoboxes), sections describing them, etc. I created a template for "Character", but once I embed it on a normal page and want to edit it with VisualEditor, I can't do it. Once you click on it, it becomes highlighed, and you can't type anything or edit it in any way. I can't edit it with source code, because it appears only as Template:Character, without its contents. I searched MediaWiki manual but did not find anyone who would have this problem. This is how it looks like: https://ibb.co/X7LVSRt Could someone help me out? Ozymphoenix (talk) 15:42, 29 January 2022 (UTC)


 * What happens if you click "Edit" (the blue button on the right) when the template is selected? It should allow you to edit some of the template's values? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I did a bit of digging and managed to partially fix the problem. I separated the infobox and the rest of the article as separate templates. Then I added every value from the source code to TemplateData and can now freely edit the infobox. However, when I do the same to the rest of the article (where there is just regular headings, text itd), changes are not visible in the article. Ozymphoenix (talk) 18:02, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Issue with Extension:Math: MWException when enabled
I have some problem with math formulas. I recently noticed that some formulas were not displayed (Invalid tag extension name: math). Deactivating and reactivating the extension, the pages containing formulas are no longer displayed (Fatal exception of type "MWException" Exception caught inside exception handler) Persycchiotto (talk) 22:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * This is a late reply but for bugs you should open a ticket at Phabricator to get a system administrator to look at it. DeeM28 (talk) 06:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Math extension stopped working
After the recent upgrade, did the math extension stop working? On my wiki https://wildmath.miraheze.org/ whenever I try to edit a page now and add stuff between $$ x^2 + x_1$$, it throws an exception and doesn't save. Aquatiki (talk) 03:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * @Aquatiki I believe the math extension is having serious bugs and is unusable for the moment. SoyokoAnis  15:12, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. The problem shown is an internal MediaWiki error (exemption) when saving the edit with the tag, this is the third user on CN a talk about it. The error is still unknown. It actually seems to be a bug of something that is in Miraheze rather than the extension itself, according to one user. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 15:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have exactly the same problem (checked yesterday). RedFox (talk) 16:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Should I do something to escalate this issue up the chain? --Aquatiki (talk) 17:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, if this is still a problem, can you please open a ticket on Phabricator and supply the full error message you are seeing? Thanks! -- Void  Whispers 03:39, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like it has resolved. Thanks --Aquatiki (talk) 11:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Advanced mode
Hello. There are recent instabilities with the "Advanced Mode" that you enable in Special:MobileOptions. The problem is: you activate, i.e. click to activate, it updates but does not activate. Does this happen to anyone too? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 23:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Someone with the same problem? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 21:57, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Interwiki request
Hi! You can create an interwiki link to this link:

Do "gw" to link to https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page at https://gtavariants.miraheze.org/wiki/$1

If you can do it. Thanks. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:49, 1 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:59, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Extend a sub-section line in an infobox
Hi, So here it is, I created a sub-section line in my infobox to delimit the sub-sections. However, the line is not wide enough, so the text is compressed, as you can see here : https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Korra I would like it to be like on Wikipedia, that the line is extended : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azula Thanks in advance for your help. Darkrai18 (talk) 18:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * "1 step back to go 2 steps forward" ~ I use the Wikipedia infobox as it is used on many pages by many users, it has a simple system. It has been added to the Test Wiki. It consists of 2 parts:


 * 1) Module:Infobox
 * 2) Template:Infobox
 * I have recreated your infobox using this template on the Test Wiki to illustrate. So "1 step back to go 2 steps forward" you might like to use this and further infoboxes with this template. PercyUK (talk) 21:55, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you sure there isn't an easier way, ? First because I plan to modify other infoboxes afterwards, then because this : https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Korra Darkrai18 (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. Remembering that header must have the same number as label and data. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 22:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think I understood much... Darkrai18 (talk) 22:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Paste the contents of the top box onto mh:fiction:Mod%C3%A8le:Personnage replacing the existing infobox.


 * PercyUK (talk) 08:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, but the problem remains the same, . It puts me : "Erreur Lua dans package.lua à la ligne 80 : module 'Module:Navbar' not found.". Darkrai18 (talk) 12:06, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * do want to give me Admin rights so I can install and detect where the error is? PercyUK (talk) 12:17, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay. But you have to contribute at least once for you to be registered. Darkrai18 (talk) 18:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

RfC rules
Hi, just noting that I've created a draft proposing codification of some existing conventions surrounding RfCs as well as some new rules. Please feel free to suggest changes or add new proposals (but please don't vote on substantive issues). See User:Reception123/RfC rules. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 19:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Abuse of power in Real Life Villains Wiki
the autocratic administrator (Rangerkid51) has blocked me due to personal prejudice and is reverting my changes. too subversive towards others--Nicaragua Villainy (talk) 20:29, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That's pretty bad, isn't it? However, could you give us more details, or even mention this on the stewards noticeboard to see what action they can take? I can go review the wiki for details as well. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:44, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The block appears to have been made on a sockpuppetry charge and was performed on . Ultimately I've opted not to move the topic to the SN, but that doesn't preclude someone else - perhaps or preferably a Steward - from doing so if seen as appropriate. Typically the correct path is to appeal locally, but the charge is serious and was made with restricted talk page access, and so that doesn't seem probable. It doesn't help that the appealing user went on a spree to raise this issue in multiple places on Meta that were clearly not appropriate, resulting in the 1 week block as of this posting and his current inability to follow up with this subject outside his talk page. I think it would be reasonable for someone to ask about the rationale/behavioral evidence behind the sockpuppetry charge resulting in a heavy indefinite block with no talk page access, otherwise there's not much to reasonably do here. --Raidarr (talk) 22:59, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Need some help with my email
No email confirmation code hasn't arrived in my yahoo inbox as I also checked thoroughly into the spam and trash folders as it hasn't arrived for four days now. Peakbread (talk) 14:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * This is a late reply but I suggest you try again and if that still does not achieve a different result you should open a ticket on Phabricator so a system administrator can look into this. DeeM28 (talk) 06:09, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Finally, someone replied! Thanks, hopefully they will fix my problem. Peakbread (talk) 23:41, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The answer was more of a recommendation, not a promise that it will fix something. As suggested, if you're still having these issues, open a ticket on Phabricator Miraheze they'll try to analyze, perhaps, the site's SREs. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 23:47, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ok! Peakbread (talk) 23:52, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

CNotice translations
CNotice translations don't appear in recent changes, or did they? I have not seen. Well, that's an option for vandals, if there's no other way to monitor CNotice translations. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 23:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * By default, translations don't appear in Recent Changes unless you unselect the "Not translations" filter. I don't know how it works on Minerva Neue but with Vector, you can unselect it at the top of Special:RecentChanges. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:00, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I saw. Yes, it works on Minerva too. And, how do you know I'm on Minerva? By the tags? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:04, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Earlier, you posted a link to a diff via Special:MobileDiff which tells me that you primarily use Minerva. Additionally, many of your edits are marked as mobile edits. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I use Minerva's advanced settings, to be specific. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:05, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the bother, but...
Doug hasn't gotten back to me yet. It's been awhile and I would like to request a Wiki please? Thank you. SperosDurrell (talk) 02:53, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * To request a wiki go to Special:RequestWiki Naleksuh (talk) 02:54, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * im blocked because i was requesting to many... SperosDurrell (talk) 02:56, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * He was blocked from creating more wikis when he requested a lot of wikis. But that's a few months ago, and he's waiting for it to be revoked as he didn't try to request more wikis anymore. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 06:55, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , you may still create a private wiki of yours, assuming you only have one public wiki. But if you'd like to appeal the restrictions, go to SN or email the stewards at stewards@undefinedmiraheze.org. --Magogre (talk) 07:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There's no way to reopen your wikis in Special:ManageWiki/core? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 14:38, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Incident disclosure
On 1 February, 2022, Site Reliability Engineering received an isolated report that the MediaWiki interface indicated that a user had been shown as being logged in to the account of another user when browsing Miraheze. As a precaution, we logged everyone out of their accounts and reset all user tokens to ensure no accounts were at risk. We have no evidence that this was abused in any way nor affected anyone other than the user who made us aware.

Your security and privacy are very important to us. As such, we have steps to harden our configuration to prevent future incidents like this from happening. In keeping with our commitment of transparency, SRE is informing the community of this incident so that they are aware. No action is required from your part.

If you have any questions, feel free to reply on to this thread or email us at sre@undefinedmiraheze.org.

On behalf of Site Reliability Engineering, Agent Isai (talk) 05:19, 6 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Has the other affected user been notified individually about the issue? Are there any recommended steps toward security improvements for users? dross  (t • c • g) 06:05, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. In fact, the affected user was the one who alerted us that another user had been able to log in to their account as the other user reached out to the affected user to let them know. As this was something that doesn't have anything to do with passwords and the such, there's nothing that can be recommended to users at this time. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason why you are not mentioning the names of the two users? Or why you seem unable to determine the cause? If users are just being logged into each others accounts and you have no idea why, that is a problem. Naleksuh (talk) 06:49, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * We can name them and you yourself can see the name of the users in this task. We were able to pinpoint the issue and have filed an upstream Wikimedia Phabricator task to address the issue. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 07:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The user affected was in direct contact with SRE via a now public Phabricator task. There's no need to mention them in a wider announcement. We are aware of a possible cause but due to lack of logging there is no way to tell for sure. We've taken measures to improve logging. RhinosF1 (Miraheze) (talk) 14:54, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

wiki analysis???
i have many visitors but no activity i even wrote a listing on gazateer. What needs to be done??? Thank you. SperosDurrell (talk) 22:00, 6 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Generally speaking it is quite difficult to develop a community from nothing, and the founder of a new wiki who does not have background or a community is going to have to put in a lot of personal work to make the wiki worthwhile to new editors. --Raidarr (talk) 20:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * As stated above, and, perhaps because there are already many wikis on different subjects and many of them already have a community, FANDOM, for example, has thousands of wikis. <span style="display:inline-block;border:1px solid black;font-weight:bold;border-radius:0px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #3dff84, #0afcec)"> Ninox (✉️ talk  |  ✏️ edits  | ☁️) 04:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

How to translate $wmgWikiLicense?
It's English by default. How can this be translated? খাত্তাব হাসান (talk) 09:42, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * If you're referring to this Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) unless otherwise noted. that appears at the bottom of the wiki then you can translate it by adding something like this to your wiki's MediaWiki:Copyright;
 * You can mark it for translation afterwards, note that you need the translate extension enabled. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You can mark it for translation afterwards, note that you need the translate extension enabled. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You can mark it for translation afterwards, note that you need the translate extension enabled. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You can mark it for translation afterwards, note that you need the translate extension enabled. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You can mark it for translation afterwards, note that you need the translate extension enabled. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You can mark it for translation afterwards, note that you need the translate extension enabled. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Trademark abuse for the second time this year
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 * A misunderstanding resulting from a joke + Naleksuh being fast at making CN posts resulted in this thread. Just as a note, Miraheze will never ever be involved in the NFT business. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 07:11, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Post closure Steward comment: Admittedly, I do misunderstand Agent Isai's sarcasm, and it seems that was the case here. The sarcasm seems to have gotten Agent Isai in trouble, but that being said, I do concur that Naleksuh should have sought clarification from Agent Isai or another functionary on whether there was any truth to the matter. I'm also uncertain as to why the the thread is titled "trademark abuse." Dmehus (talk) 00:32, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Agent Isai has confessed to me via IRC that they plan to mint Miraheze NFTs later this year. If you see any, please let me know and also email Miraheze legal. Naleksuh (talk) 06:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * By this do you mean Miraheze is minting its own NFTs, or Miraheze NFTs are being created without permission and should by copyright claimed? Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 07:09, 10 February 2022 (UTC)


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Partially retired
Hello everybody. Unfortunately I will have to partially retire (I will only edit Meta eventually) and I will perhaps be more active on my wikis. I would like to be wiki creator in that community than any other right, with all of my two requests being failure. Now I will edit less often and now it's going to be more complicated with my latest edits. Thanks --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 19:20, 13 February 2022 (UTC) .I'll stay on Meta, but I'll be more responsible and clear, CIR: more competent. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 23:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, how so?  is not a prerequisite to apply for  . What is a prerequisite is a solid understanding of and demonstrated ability to apply correctly Content Policy, the substantial majority of the time it in wiki approval or decline decisions. You've been working with raidarr on that, as your mentor, and that's been helpful, so my best advice would not be to seek a self-nomination and let him nominate you when he thinks you're ready. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't say autopatrolled is a requirement, I'm just saying how it feels to use it [revocation] in the future. I also think I'm aware of CP, according to my answers to but for someone to make a request to me it's practically impossible. Anything you can disregard what I said above (in case I undo and go back to edit), so I will only edit the noticeboards more often. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger  ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 19:44, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay. Sounds good. :) Dmehus (talk) 19:53, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, this question is a little more difficult. FANDOM has a lot of ads, no Wikipedia style themes, ShoutWiki is slower to update, charges 5$ to remove ads. It's really thoughtful stay here and hope you stay well! <span style="display:inline-block;border:1px solid black;font-weight:bold;border-radius:0px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #3dff84, #0afcec)"> Ninox (✉️ talk  |  ✏️ edits  | ☁️) 04:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Regarding my RfP
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 * <span style="">Not a use case of Community noticeboard. Also essentially seems to be a thread to stir up drama. <span style=""> Naleksuh (talk) 08:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Since everyone cited "concerns" and the request was closed by WP:SNOW, why not invite me, as Dmehus has already done in an RfP, to become a temporary Wiki creator (1 month for example), to test, how much my conduct regarding requests? If I did well, I'd take rights or open a new RfP to look into it. For me, a genuine option that gives second chances to those who are really interested. I've seen WCs that haven't even created more than 5 wikis. It is worth thinking a lot about the interest of being a user volunteer as well. 6 months/1 year is too much and I still DOUBT that waiting that long would be a reason for success. It's just a while. There are wiki creators who became WC in 4-5 months. It's really something to think about. I also saw that one of the opponents made fun of my English. I expect constructive reception. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 01:39, 14 February 2022 (UTC)


 * You could've requested this in your first, or even your second, wiki creator request, but given that you've now had three requests closed in a short span of time, I don't feel this would be appropriate here, given the concerns expressed. Dmehus (talk) 01:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Nobody has a crystal ball to know how harmful I'm going to be in the future. Also, you mentioned reasons, typical of giving up to the extreme: "I've already made two or three requests, you can't make any more", so I can give up trying to volunteer. Thanks! --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 01:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * While I'm not Dmehus, I really think you should try to calm down. I'm speaking from experience here when I say I get your frustrations, but you can't let it get to you. There's always a next time, trust me. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 01:56, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Look, thanks for the answer but I'm not annoyed with anything, but citing the part that, frankly, I don't agree: there are no policies that limit the number of requests, he mentioned how I had already made a lot of requests and that I can't do it again. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 01:59, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There are no policies, yes, limiting the number of the permissions requests for the same permission you may make in a given period of time because the very fact is, it should be common sense that if one has to keep trying and trying again, for the same permission, without taking into consideration the community's desire for someone to seek a mentor, and seek a third-party nomination from said mentor, then that ought to be enough to suggest that one is quite literally, figuratively speaking, bashing their head against a figurative brick wall, no? Dmehus (talk) 02:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't want to start a rivalry with you, so we'd better stop there. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The fact that you put "concerns" means that you aren't agreeing to those concerns - a concern is a concern. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 01:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Also remember to load the argument itself in your brain. With glue, tape, slime? perhaps. Edits like this: is anything but exemplary. I don't ping you, so I don't expect your opinion. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger  ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:14, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * NO! Just understand me already! I added that because you never understand the word "per" - that's it. The "Also remember to load the argument itself in your brain.", how am I supposed to comment on that if I didn't think of that? You also need to load the argument inself in your brain, you don't understand the argument of my vote. You're telling me to load the argument but you also don't load the argument. You make zero sense. That's it, I'm opposing your next RfPs until you realize. To be honest, it's probably because you don't understand certain english words, but you never correct them even if other people tell. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 07:14, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Being honest here, you're partially correct on the whole "6 months/1 year is too much and I still DOUBT that waiting that long would be a reason for success" statement there. Regardless of how much time has passed, if you don't show noticeable improvement...why would that change the result? I personally think you should just try to work on resolving the concerns and go from there. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 01:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hello
How do I specifically change the username? I went to the designated page but do I have to wait? Thanks! HamiltonRoss (talk) 02:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure you will have to wait for a Steward to complete the request on their end. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 02:56, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I already went to Special:GlobalRenameRequest (which is the designated page). What estimate do you give that s|stewards from Meta-Wiki will fulfill the request? HamiltonRoss (talk) 03:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well Dmehus already did it quickly for you. I hope you like your new username though and have fun! Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 03:00, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Ninox, as Hypercane mentioned, this has been ✅. While your global rename is in progress, you will not be able to use this user account. Dmehus (talk) 03:07, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * and Thanks! I'm login now. If you are interested in the next projects managed by me, welcome! --<span style="display:inline-block;border:1px solid black;font-weight:bold;border-radius:0px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #3dff84, #0afcec)"> Ninox  (✉️ talk  |  ✏️ edits  | ☁️) 03:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Ninox, no problem. Dmehus (talk) 04:44, 14 February 2022 (UTC)