Requests for Comment/Changes to wiki creators

This requests for comment is based on the current issue surrounding wiki creators, how they may be used, and how to hold wiki requests.

Proposal 1 : Community may vote to revoke wiki creator
This is because the community may add wiki creator but not remove it. In addition, stewards may create wikis, and can be revoked by community, but not wiki creator. This effectively gives wiki creators a "safety net" stewards don't have. This was previously discussed in the Examknow RfC and decided against it, however, consensus can change, and it did with the global rollback group which failed to gain consensus in 2020 but passed in 2022 Naleksuh (talk) 06:15, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Support, in addition to current system

 * 1) I believe that wiki creators are both accountable to the community and to the Volunteer Conduct Policy. We have revocation policies for a lot of other roles, and it's time that the wiki creator policy comes up-to-speed on that as well. BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 12:12, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Comments

 * If this is successful: (1) Would Stewards still have the ability to remove wiki creators if they violate the 4 points mentioned in the current policy? (2) Would a community revocation have to take into account the 4 points and be subject to that or would it just be a simple vote? (To note that in the case of Global bans as well, a community vote is also pre-conditioned by some additional requirements). Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:38, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) That depends on the result of the RfC. That's what it's here to decide. Stewards would still be able to remove in emergency or inactivity, however it's up to the community to decide if community revocation replaces or supplements steward revocation. 2) What is the difference? Naleksuh (talk) 06:41, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think for 1 it might be best to clarify that in a proposal as otherwise it wouldn't be clear whether people supporting direct revocation implies that Steward revocation without a vote is no longer possible. Regarding 2, the difference is that with the 4 points, a revocation could potentially be declined by a Steward if none of the 4 points are met, even if there's a vote. --Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:58, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Proposal 2: Revoking (and adding) is done at Requests for global permissions
This is because, while on a software level, the group only exists on Meta, for all intents and purposes it's treated as a global group (managed by stewards and not Meta buaucrats, bound by VCP, and other stuff that applies). Naleksuh (talk) 06:16, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Proposal 3: Who may ask wiki creators to hold wiki request?
Today, user NotAracham stated that wiki requests were on hold, but when I PRed Miraheze to implement this, SRE member MacFan4000 said they were not on hold. This raises the question, who can decide that they are on hold, or not? I believe SRE should, as they're the ones response for the software, and the ones with the ability to turn it off. Therefore, SRE may request holding them, and do this via the disabling of the ability Naleksuh (talk) 06:16, 13 April 2023 (UTC)