User talk:Redmin

Welcome to Miraheze
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Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 19:19, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Translation administrator granted - 2020-11-13
Hi, R4356th. An administrator on Meta has granted you the  user group permission, which gives you the ability to mark updated source pages for translation and prepare additional, untranslated pages for translation, among a few other permissions related to the administration of translated pages. You should also be aware that the granting of this user group is at the discretion of Meta administrators, so different administrators will have slightly different criteria for granting. Likewise, just as it is a discretionary appointment, revocation is also at the discretion of Meta administrators and, again, each will have their own criteria for revocation.

Nevertheless, the following are some of the main guidelines for translation administrators. If you follow these guidelines completely, it is unlikely your translation administrator user group should ever be revoked.


 * Don't mark or prepare pages too quickly. Administration of translation pages is handled by a system maintenance bot, FuzzyBot, whose tasks are handled by  and  . Accordingly, it is strongly recommended that you check FuzzyBot's recent edits and log actions to see when it has completed your request. A good rule of thumb is to wait approximately 5-10 minutes between marking pages
 * Noticeboards and talk pages should never be translated. Due to the dynamically changing nature of the content on these pages, translation of these pages is undesirable, so they should never be prepared for translation. If you note that a noticeboard is proposed for translation (i.e., pages which contain translation tags but which haven't yet been marked), it's best to remove the  and   characters from the given discussion thread(s) that note the example translation syntax, to remove the noticeboard or talk page from pages proposed for translation
 * Never remove a translated page from the translation system. This is not recommended, mainly because the translation page units (in Translations: namespace) remain. Instead, if you believe a page should no longer be translated, start a new thread at Administrators' noticeboard recommending the given translated subpage(s) for deletion by an administrator. Once all the translated subpage(s) have been deleted, then a page can be removed from the translation system
 * Make use of  and   tags. The former is especially helpful with translating the displayed text of wikilinks (including interwiki wikilinks) and external links, and the latter is particularly helpful where the linked destination page is translated into languages other than English
 * Consider the utility and usefulness before preparing new pages for translation. For example, additional untranslated pages in Tech: namespace aimed at explaining to system administrators how to perform certain procedures are unlikely to ever be read in languages other than English. A best practice here is to propose new pages for translation at Administrators' noticeboard and obtain consensus there to prepare the page
 * Ignore, generally, pages in userspace proposed for translation. Often these are userspace drafts contain translation tags. You can usually just ignore these. If in doubt, you can ask at Administrators' noticeboard
 * Bookmark this help page on MediaWiki.org. Aimed specifically at translation administrators like you, it contains very useful, well written information on the Translate extension's translation administration tools

In addition, a couple of technical limitations regarding the  user group:
 * 1) You cannot mark fully protected pages that have been updated. If you see such a page that needs to be re-marked, please leave a note on the user talk page of any administrator on Meta or at Administrators' noticeboard; and,
 * 2) You cannot delete translated subpages. Again, you can recommend long outdated and unmaintained translations, as well as poor translations, for deletion by leaving a note on the user talk page of any administrator on Meta or at Administrators' noticeboard

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Thank you! --Dmehus (talk) 19:20, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. I have a question, should I start new threads in Administrators' noticeboard every time I want to prepare a page for translation or is my conscience enough in most cases? R4356th (talk) 20:09, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Good question. I would say, in most cases, your common sense is a good enough. A good rule of thumb might be to stick to pages in either  or   namespaces as long as they're not categorized at Category:Noticeboards, and are not subpages of the same; for other namespaces, I would suggest asking at Administrators' noticeboard.   namespace is also a reasonable namespace in which you can use your good common sense, again provided it's not a holding category for the noticeboards. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. R4356th (talk) 06:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Dmehus (talk) 06:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Removing pages from the translation system
Hi R4356th,

It's not too significant of an issue, but I did notice, in actioning your request for deletion of Template:Essay/en, the deletion was not processed by FuzzyBot. It looks like you removed Template:Essay from the translation system. So, I just wanted to remind you of the best practice, which Meta Wiki follows, of instead posting a note somewhere for an administrator to delete any translated subpages. Once FuzzyBot has completed the deletion, then the page should be removed from the translation system.

Thanks again, and thanks for all of your translation work on this wiki. :)

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 01:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I am sorry about that. I did not mean to remove the page before it was deleted but I did have a reason behind it; the template's formatting got messed up as a result of adding the translate tags and this seemed like something that had to be rollbacked fast. I apologise again for the inconvenience. R4356th (talk) 08:54, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. In this case, as I say, it wasn't too much of a big deal, as there weren't too many translation units for me to manually delete. In the future, when considering translating a template like Template:Essay, I might suggest duplicating it at Template:Essay/sandbox, then preparing Template:Essay/sandbox for translation. That way, when the template sandbox is no longer required if it didn't work out, you can simply swap the transclusion back to Template:Essay, and request deletion of Template:Essay/sandbox. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:44, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion. :) R4356th (talk) 17:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

বাংলা অনুবাদে সাহায্য
উইকিমিডিয়া ফাউন্ডেশনের মেটা উইকির পাতাগুলি যদি অনুবাদে সাহায্য করতেন তবে খুব উপকৃত হত বাঙালি পাঠকরা (যেমন https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy/bn)। --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 22:23, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * বাংলায় অনুবাদ করা হয়নি এমন পৃষ্ঠাগুলির কি কোনো বিভাগ করা আছে? আমি হয়তো ডিসেম্বরে দেখবো। ধন্যবাদ। R4356th (talk) 10:08, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * এখানে অনুবাদযোগ্য সব পাতার তালিকা আছে। তবে সবগুলি করা সম্ভব হবে না। তাই বেছে বেছে গুরুত্বপূর্ণগুলি আগে করা প্রয়োজন। যেমন উপরে যে লিঙ্ক দিয়েছি। --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 22:41, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ঠিক আছে। আমি শীঘ্রই দেখবো। ধন্যবাদ। R4356th (talk) 09:18, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Help
Hey Can you please tell me that how can I use translation interface while translating pages as you mentioned in my translation? It will be helpful for me if you explain the proper translation process Shaunak Chakraborty (talk) 17:00, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, I left a message on your talk page. Please let me know if you have any additional queries. Thank you. R4356th (talk) 17:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

About Special:RequestWikiQueue/15477
"나무" -> "tree" is correct. But "나무 + 위키"(나무 + Wiki) is not "Tree Wiki". That is a wiki that runs elsewhere, (namu.wiki) run by Umanle S.R.L. And, namu wiki is a famous wiki in Korea along with Wikipedia, licence is also CC BY-NC-SA. Thank you. Gomdoli (talk) 23:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. But is there a fork of that on Miraheze already? Thank you. R4356th (talk) 07:47, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello
I update the request about Wikipedia Jokes, can review it?--Shadi12 (talk) 20:57, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅ R4356th (talk) 21:16, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Patroller granted - 2020-12-9
Hi, R4356th. An administrator on Meta has granted you the  user group permission, which gives you the ability to   recent changes and new pages of other Miraheze users (both registered and anonymous) who are  not either autopatrolled or an administrator. In addition, this group also means that your edits are, so other patrollers or administrators don't have to patrol your edits. You should also be aware that the granting of this user group is at the discretion of Meta administrators, so different administrators will have slightly different criteria for granting. Likewise, just as it is a discretionary appointment, revocation is also at the discretion of Meta administrators and, again, each will have their own criteria for revocation.

In the medium-term, plans are in the works to develop a Meta Patrollers School, likely led by one or two active administrators, that will provide a comprehensive set of guidelines for patrollers and answers to commonly asked questions.

Nevertheless, the following are some of the main guidelines for patrolling. If you follow these guidelines completely, it is unlikely your patroller user group should ever be revoked. In technical terms, even when you find content that requires deletion by an administrator or otherwise requires remediation, undoing, reverting, or rolling back (if you are also a, of course), you should always first mark as patrolled any revisions regardless of whether that content is destined to remain extant to the page or even on Meta entirely.


 * 1) When patrolling talk pages, user talk pages, and noticeboards (in Main and Meta namespaces), you should first check to see whether the user properly signed their posts using four tildes . If they have not, you should add unsigned by substitution, where username is the user's username or IP address and the timestamp is the full timestamp from the diff page. As a best practice, you should also link to the diff in your edit summary, so other administrators and patrollers can easily tie your modification to the original edit being modified. To speed up this process, you can copy the   user script from line 5 of this page into either your (a) common.js or (b) global.js page (the latter applying globally on all Miraheze wikis);
 * 2) When patrolling the noticeboards, ask yourself whether this topic is on the correct noticeboard. If it is not, you should move it to the correct noticeboard, by either undoing the edit or manually removing the topic (if there have been intervening edits), again linking to the original noticeboard of the topic and the new noticeboard where it was moved in your edit summary. On the new noticeboard, you would simply paste in the topic (including the section header), linking to the diff page as in the first step. An example edit summary might be , where  ######  represents the numeric revision ID of the originally posted topic;
 * 3) Also when patrolling the noticeboards and talk pages (including user talk pages), as a best practice, take care to kindly fix any formatting mistakes (such as excess line breaks or incorrect wiki code), per WP:LISTGAP;
 * 4) If something requires deletion, you can add delete to the top of the page in question, taking care to follow the instructions on that template page;
 * 5) If you come across a user who repeatedly makes the same mistakes, send them a guidance note on their user talk page, informing of the steps need to edit and post constructively on Meta; and, finally,
 * 6) If in doubt whether something requires remediation or not, patrol it, and then ask any administrator via their user talk page or at Administrators' noticeboard if any further action needs to be taken.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Thank you! --Dmehus (talk) 15:49, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note that this is related to my privately recruiting you for the role on Discord on 4 December 2020. Dmehus (talk) 15:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. :D R4356th (talk) 17:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)