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Discussion: Central notice changes
This is for the sake of having an open discussion on the changes proposed in this RfC, though I won't really touch much on the last proposal that was added by another person (of course, you're welcome to talk about that as well nonetheless). Hopefully this comment will at least make it clear what the proposals I brought up are intended to mean. Also, please ask nicely if you would like clarity on anything at all.

The first one to discuss is the following:

Central notices with the purpose of soliciting participation from wiki communities for an event or a discussion should last while that event or discussion is open for people to participate. As in, the central notice would only be removed after the event or discussion has closed.

Let's start by saying that this is not changing what a central notice is made for. It's not saying that every discussion gets a central notice, what it's saying applies in the instance when the people who make central notices decide that a discussion will get a central notice, which is still at their judgement. This talk page comment might show some insight on what such judgement it is, which again they would still retain. What changes is specifically the duration of such particular central notices, in that it would be in relation to the discussion that it would be notifying of.

The discussions being referred to can be gleaned from Special:CentralNotice (click "Show archived campaigns" to see the older ones). It is what is meant to gather people to provide their input and feedback, and this description fits, for example, Requests for Comment or Requests for Stewardship. And if they have yet to be closed by the closer, then the closer presumably decided that it needs more time to gather more comments before a conclusion can be drawn. If so, the methods used to notify of the discussion's existence should get continued use to gather more discussion from people.

Another proposal to discuss is the following:

A campaign type can be set for central notice campaigns, allowing users to opt out of specific campaign types in their preferences, specifically in the "Banners" section. Here is a proposal for what campaign types Miraheze should use:
 * Fundraising
 * Surveys
 * Maintenance
 * Requests for Comment
 * Requests for Stewardship
 * Requests for Community Director

To make it clear how to use preferences to opt-out of campaign types, some text instructing people how to do so should be added to central notices.

In technical terms, campaign types are configured with $wgCentralNoticeCampaignTypes in LocalSettings.php.

This can presumably work with ManageWiki to apply for a whole wiki. To sysadmins, this would presumably be done by using a custom variable to set $wgDefaultUserOptions['centralnotice-display-campaign-type-whatever'] = 0.

Now, in regards to how to decide on the campaign types to be used, I'd say that having the communities' consensus is still relevant, in the case of disputes over what should be grouped together or partitioned. And the RfC does show a dispute over whether Requests for Global Sysop should be included, excluded, or grouped with another type. So it would at least be useful to have some sort of discussion with wiki communities to figure out what's best.

In response to other comments in the RfC: Including Requests for Global Sysop in the list of campaign types does not mean that every single one of that request gets a central notice, it is meant to mean that a RfGS would be allowed to get a central notice, which would still have the judgement of the people who make central notices to actually get one. And people should be able to decide for themselves if they want to opt out of seeing certain central notices, and I figure that if someone desires a tool to stop seeing a certain kind of notification, they likely aren't interested in what's being notified about in the first place. Finally, it was concluded in this RfC that there is consensus for community-oriented posts to be posted on Miraheze's social media accounts, therefore a community-elected role would be appropriate.

Feel free to say your thoughts on any of these topics. K599 (talk) 15:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * And will there be a way to disable CNotice for some, and leave only fundraising? YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 15:33, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @YellowFrogger As said in the explanation of how campaign types work, people should be able to go into their preferences and opt-out of the types that they don't want to see. K599 (talk) 16:27, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * But there has to be an option to hide it across the whole wiki (not just in preferences), but yes, all visitors to a particular wiki would be better. Nobody is obligated to see CNotice either, so it had to have that. Showing only CNotice for fundraising, which is important for Miraheze to maintain the wikis maintenance, the others don't matter (or only matter in Meta). YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 19:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @YellowFrogger I mentioned above that there's presumably a way to make campaign types work with ManageWiki, though I suppose a sysadmin should comment on the method I talked about. K599 (talk) 20:19, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note that the list of campaign types proposed in my initial comment is based on past central notices as seen on Special:CentralNotice. Of course, feel free to discuss any desired changes to the list. K599 (talk) 03:04, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * For some added context, the banner preferences can be seen in Special:Preferences, where it's currently the extension's defaults. These options have been unused probably due to being unrelated to Miraheze. K599 (talk) 03:46, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * This talk page discussion has a review of the proposed list of campaign types. In response:
 * Okay, but I would prefer that "Community Notices" have a page that explains what would fall under this label. Then this page would be linked, if possible, from the related user preference and, if implemented, the related ManageWiki setting proposed in the community wishlist proposal. K599 (talk) 01:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it'd be useful to consider above suggestions like the instructions thing as well. K599 (talk) 03:25, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Finding a conclusion on campaign types
It would be good to at least have some course of action that outlines whether or not this wikifarm will make use of campaign types, and what those campaign types will be. K599 (talk) 03:51, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There was a talk page discussion that reviewed a list of campaign types, but it seems that no sort of action has been concretely decided on.
 * Reiterating what's been explained before, campaign types refers to Special:Preferences, a user preference that is used to choose what types of central notices to have displayed for your own account.
 * Currently, as can be seen by checking your preferences, the configured campaign types don't particularly reflect how Miraheze uses central notices (see Special:CentralNotice). Hence the suggestion above for a more appropriate list of campaign types. The description for the preference also makes reference to Wikimedia rather than this wikifarm, which probably confuses people.
 * This community wishlist proposal would also need campaign types to be configured to be useful. I'll also note the suggestion of using ManageWiki on a custom variable to set $wgDefaultUserOptions['centralnotice-display-campaign-type-whatever'] = 0.
 * If campaign types do get properly configured and used, it would be helpful to take the suggestion of including some text in central notices that instructs people how to use the user preference and ManageWiki setting, to make it clear that the banner isn't forced to appear.


 * I still want some sort of concrete conclusion on this, as I do think this would be helpful to people. K599 (talk) 23:03, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Problem with seo metakeywords
I have now the next error:

"Error: tag must contain at least one non-empty attribute."

But my seo tag has worked well so far:

&lt;seo metakeywords="szabadkőműves,freemason,páholy,lodge,freimaurer,loge" google-site-verification="GDJ-MOvKL9I-W-eoQsEp958AsMp8QOUILjH5N27YgWU" /&gt;

What has changed?

What can be done?

László Lalo5555 (talk) 16:23, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, I apologize for the lack of responses so far (to be frank, things have been quite busy :p). Does this error continue? If so I can try to point someone authoritative to this thread. --Raidarr (talk) 20:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello @Raidarr, Very interesting, the error message is gone from all pages except my home page: https://szk.miraheze.org/wiki/Szabadkőműves_Wiki,
 * László Lalo5555 (talk) 08:29, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Cannot login to Phabricator
I currently cannot login to Phabricator. First, there is no "MediaWiki" button at https://phabricator.miraheze.org/auth/start/?next=%2F. Second, when I try to login to Phabricator using my GitHub account, an error like the following is shown:

Unhandled Exception ("HTTPFutureCURLResponseStatus")

[cURL/7] (https://github.com/login/oauth/access_token) <CURLE_COULDNT_CONNECT> The cURL library raised an error while making a request. You may be able to find more information about this error (error code: 7) on the cURL site: http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html#CURLECOULDNTCONNECT

So, when will logging in to Phabricator start working again (with both the "GitHub" and the "MediaWiki" buttons shown)? GTrang (talk) 22:26, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Now, the "MediaWiki" button is back (and logging in using the Miraheze account works), but logging in using the GitHub account still gives the same error message regardless of whether I was logged in on Miraheze or not. This issue has been reported at T8617. GTrang (talk) 23:24, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Phabricator is being wonky lately. I'm sure someone is working on this. 29TB (talk) 20:26, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @GTrang As of right now, logging in using the MediaWiki button works, and it goes through Miraheze, as usual. I was informed the Github button is not the one to use (disabled or non-working because it doesn't use Miraheze username or associate to a Miraheze account they can follow), in case that is helpful. | -- FrozenPlum  (Talk / Email)

Need some help with my email
No email confirmation code hasn't arrived in my yahoo inbox as I also checked thoroughly into the spam and trash folders as it hasn't arrived for four days now. Peakbread (talk) 14:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * This is a late reply but I suggest you try again and if that still does not achieve a different result you should open a ticket on Phabricator so a system administrator can look into this. DeeM28 (talk) 06:09, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Finally, someone replied! Thanks, hopefully they will fix my problem. Peakbread (talk) 23:41, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The answer was more of a recommendation, not a promise that it will fix something. As suggested, if you're still having these issues, open a ticket on Phabricator Miraheze they'll try to analyze, perhaps, the site's SREs. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 23:47, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ok! Peakbread (talk) 23:52, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Issue with Extension:Math: MWException when enabled
I have some problem with math formulas. I recently noticed that some formulas were not displayed (Invalid tag extension name: math). Deactivating and reactivating the extension, the pages containing formulas are no longer displayed (Fatal exception of type "MWException" Exception caught inside exception handler) Persycchiotto (talk) 22:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * This is a late reply but for bugs you should open a ticket at Phabricator to get a system administrator to look at it. DeeM28 (talk) 06:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Math extension stopped working
After the recent upgrade, did the math extension stop working? On my wiki https://wildmath.miraheze.org/ whenever I try to edit a page now and add stuff between $$ x^2 + x_1$$, it throws an exception and doesn't save. Aquatiki (talk) 03:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * @Aquatiki I believe the math extension is having serious bugs and is unusable for the moment. SoyokoAnis  15:12, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. The problem shown is an internal MediaWiki error (exemption) when saving the edit with the tag, this is the third user on CN a talk about it. The error is still unknown. It actually seems to be a bug of something that is in Miraheze rather than the extension itself, according to one user. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 15:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have exactly the same problem (checked yesterday). RedFox (talk) 16:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Should I do something to escalate this issue up the chain? --Aquatiki (talk) 17:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, if this is still a problem, can you please open a ticket on Phabricator and supply the full error message you are seeing? Thanks! -- Void  Whispers 03:39, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like it has resolved. Thanks --Aquatiki (talk) 11:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Messed up the namespace, now all pages are unavailable
Hello everyone! I just had my new wiki created (attractivecelebs.miraheze.org) and I seriously messed something up, I tried to add a "Special" namespace in the 'Manage this wiki's namespaces' section (to have a namespace where basic rules and such material goes), and after saving, I don't know what got messed up but now all the links, including all tools, stuff like logging out, watchlist, preferences, recent changes, everything, gets the 'Special' prefix added to them, even when I try to erase it from the https search bar or recover the page from browser history, I still get the issue, and at all times I get this message: 'There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or create this page.' Even the logs and settings are unavailable. I tried all methods but no success. I basically locked myself out of my new wiki.

Please could someone with the required user rights and sufficient technical knowledge come and see if anything can be done? I am pretty desperate, don't know what I messed up accidentally but it pretty much nuked any options to edit anything on the wiki anymore.

Thank you in advance! ShaytonSky (talk) 22:43, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't know if what I wrote is clearly understandable, so I made a video I uploaded here to actually show you what happens: https://youtu.be/oXPbU0-hRGA. I really hope someone can help, otherwise this wiki can be deleted. --ShaytonSky (talk) 22:59, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The namespace "Special" is reserved by MediaWiki for builtin pages, such as ManageWiki and the login box, so you can't use it as a namespace for content. You probably shouldn't have been able to do that in the first place. The Stewards should be able to delete the namespace on meta, so it shouldn't be broken too hard. — Arcversin (talk) 01:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * See T8649. — Arcversin (talk) 02:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * He replaced it to be exact, (accidentally deleting after creating a "Special" namespace in ManageWiki/namespaces). I don't know why the user proceeded to do this, knowing that special pages are important. Now let's wait for an expert SRE or Steward to see if it fixes it. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:01, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have now fixed the issue 02:19, 22 January 2022 (UTC) ］ |
 * Thank you very much for the help! I am really sorry for causing trouble, it was completely unintentional. I am an editor on the Hungarian Wikipedia, and we have a 'Special' namespace there, and when I tried managing the namespaces, I noticed it was not there so I thought it had to be created. I am really sorry about it, I will never go anywhere near those options again. Thank you again for helping me out! --ShaytonSky (talk) 14:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please don't be discouraged entirely, you ran into a rare scenario where ManageWiki can break a wiki function. The other, more common issue I would note though is ManageWiki; you should never mess with bureaucrat, because if you lose the ManageWiki permission you will need outside intervention. Otherwise, you've learned. But by all means feel free to ask again anytime such as with the below thread, and even join us on Discord/IRC for informal questions/responses. You're good :) --Raidarr (talk) 11:40, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Miraheze starts to slow down and bug again, right?
It was better for a week but now it's starting again Darkrai18 (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, very very slow for me too. 502 errors also happening. Must be something --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 18:48, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Namespace for rules etc.
Hello! It's me again, sorry for disturbing but after what I caused yesterday I do not dare to do anything 'major' by myself before asking.

I would like to ask what is the namespace that the stuff like rules of the Wiki go? In Wikipedia, we have Wiki/Wikipedia namespace for that, but I can't find either among the namespaces listed. What namespace should I use for the rules page?

Thank you in advance. Best regards, --ShaytonSky (talk) 20:27, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Use the Project namespace. The "Project" namespace will always redirect to the namespace you're looking for. For example, here, we have Project:Bots which redirects to Bots. Naleksuh (talk) 20:36, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! --ShaytonSky (talk) 20:40, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can use the project namespace to create the conduct entries, pretty much most wikis do that. But also I always considered creating a namespace in ManageWiki/namespaces with different names in my wiki. This is an interesting way. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:12, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's also a good name because it's the default namespace where various wiki 'meta' pages are linked to, such as the About, Policy, General disclaimer and other such pages. --Raidarr (talk) 11:42, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Slow servers / and/or/ slow to login.
Hello. Unfortunately, today 22 January, Miraheze servers were ridiculously slow today, as shown in the section above. It seemed to stabilize now, and has improved (previously it was really good until today). So, one part that has always intrigued me since the day of the update is that it takes a long time to log in to Miraheze (most of the time, 502 bad gateway errors occur). It takes up to several seconds to complete the login, eventually a 502 occurs, which when it occurs we have to fill out the form again and try again! And ball for another eternity. Honestly, I expected more after the migration. The servers may even have been improved (decreasing the delay), but not in the case of login. What is your opinion on this? Does this happen to you? (delay when logging in). --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 21:30, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * As you yourself know very well from the discussions on Discord, stuff happens. Computers will be computers and there'll always be little blips that will occur. This'll hopefully pass soon and there is really no need to make a thread to discuss this unless it's persistent and even then, a discussion on Discord/IRC would probably be better than a Community noticeboard thread. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:46, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * When you mentioned computers I prefer to think that you cited an example: my computer is not so good, but not so bad either. "No need to make a thread to discuss this unless it's persistent", actually this has been going on for days, and it's probably persistent. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 22:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

A problem with Phabricator
I went on Phabricator, and it told me to click the MediaWiki button below and connect with my Miraheze wiki account. However, there are multiple problems: FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 23:42, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) There is no "MediaWiki button", or at least, I don't know what they're talking about.
 * 2) They claim that my username and password is invalid for some reason.
 * 3) They say that my username and password is incorrect.
 * The passwords and username are invalid because you don't have a phabricator account. You must accept the OAuth permission, then it will log in by itself. What do you mean there isn't a MediaWiki button? I believe it's confusion of Fat because it's happened to me to disappear (after I fill in the login form). --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just to make sure, I've outlined the area that's necessary to click first after hitting the login button. It's the only valid one to use and if you don't see it, something is wrong. I know it was down for some time after transition, but that was fixed. If you still don't see it, you may need to reset your cache for miraheze/phabricator or on desktop, hit alt+f5 to force a refresh. --Raidarr (talk) 11:38, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Importing templates
Hello guys, Could someone please help me out? I am having trouble importing templates to my Wiki, I tried both the export/import method and the copypaste method, they do not work for me, and I am not skilled enough to make templates on my own. I would like to have two templates on my Wiki: The birth date and age template seems especially confusing even though I thought it would be an easy one as it seems just a calculator template. I would need these two for my Wiki, I don't know if someone has time and is willing to help me with it, I would be very grateful. ShaytonSky (talk) 20:44, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * https://template.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Birth_date_and_age
 * It seems these templates also rely on Modules to be imported. Also, when importing something from another wiki try to make sure you import everything it depends on. I could try to help out here shortly if you'd like. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 21:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Uh-oh, if Moduls are involved I give it up, that is extremely hard to even understand for me, not to mention editing them... Would it be easier to create an infobox and an age calculator from zero on my wiki? Would it be even possible? Thank you very much by the way. --ShaytonSky (talk) 21:36, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I would think creating it from scratch or perhaps even checking the edit history of the template(s) would be optimal. I'm pretty sure in the edit history there's a version that didn't rely on modules. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 21:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I tried checking several old versions of the Birth date and age template, but all revisions sound like they were written in Chinese to me, I understand nothing about those expressions, values, incorporated templates etc. I never thought it would be this complicated, I thought it would be a simple copypaste from another wiki... It seems like I have two choices left: I either commission someone who is professional in this field and can make the templates for me, or I give up this stuff entirely and create infoboxes 'manually' by filling in empty wikitables or such. They would be ugly, but I know no better option unfortunately. --ShaytonSky (talk) 22:12, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sorry about that. I am still willing to help you in any way I can. Could I perhaps give this a try? Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 22:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your help and your offer, of course you can give it a try if you want to, I would really appreciate it! --ShaytonSky (talk) 22:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll give it my best shot. Thank you. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 22:25, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm following up to essentially mark this as . I hope you have fun with the template(s) and your wiki! Also, please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you need more assistance. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 02:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Create a specific AN for incident reporting
I recently made a RfC explaining to terms a new noticeboard that would especially fit the blocks (global and local) and incident reports in Meta. However, all voted against, with one user citing "not against the idea, plus the fact of an RfC for it" as well as another opponent (3–4 of votes are mixed, two cite not against the idea, another quotes "Per", but has supported the idea in the past). Definitely weak consensus, let's say. Where do I get this? If I don't need an RfC. I wish I had an answer. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 06:31, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, Special:IncidentReports actually already exists for this very thing; however, SRE, admittedly, has not been keeping up with IRs of late. Dmehus (talk) 06:34, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YF's meaning is specifically for incidents involving blocks and locks, not the technical reports per the linked special page. --Raidarr (talk) 09:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I actually have more opinion on that - there should be a new channel in the discord server and a new IRC channel for that (if #cvt doesn't already do that). <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 09:39, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The #cvt channel does, and is typically the first destination for that. --Raidarr (talk) 09:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

User groups disappeared
Hi! In Miraheze, there was an update that redirects all groups (on all wikis, even though they have a page for it) to User groups. In mine, and in many wikis, there was a bug that eliminates user groups!, see an example in this wiki. Passing by to inform about it. Thanks! --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 21:53, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hmm, that's strange indeed. I would definitely pass this on to Phabricator for instance as this does not seem normal at all. Hopefully it gets resolved for you. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 21:56, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm still wondering if this is really suitable for phabricator (or if there's a task in progress). It really is weird. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * We noticed that issue occur on another wiki but strangely, it does not affect some wikis. I'll forward this to SRE. Thanks, Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:12, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Change the appearance of audio files?
Hi there, My audio files appear in a gray form that I don't like as you can see here : https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Fichier:Youre-too-slow.ogg But I would like them to appear as in the form here : https://www.pokepedia.fr/Fichier:Cri_4_d_025.ogg Thanks in advance for your help. Darkrai18 (talk) 12:46, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not normal? See an example at Wikimedia Commons of an OGG file. I myself have uploaded OGG files and they were like this. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 17:43, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's really strange. I'd really like to find a solution to fix this. Darkrai18 (talk) 21:10, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * At Special:ManageWiki/extensions > media handlers tab, change from extension TimedMediaHandler to extension EmbedVideo --Rob Kam (talk) 14:26, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Hiding the "Donate to Miraheze", "Hosted by Miraheze" and "Powered by MediaWiki", and how to change the Terms of Use direct to my own one on my own wiki?
How do I hide stuff like "Donate to Miraheze", "Hosted by Miraheze", "Powered by MediaWiki", and change the Terms of Use to direct to my own Terms of Use (I've seen this before!) TheWiki (talk) 15:06, 26 January 2022 (UTC)The W1ki


 * @TheWiki You can't hide Donate to Miraheze or Hosted by Miraheze. Why would you want to? SoyokoAnis  15:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello! To hide the Powered by MediaWiki and hosted by Miraheze buttons, use li#footer-poweredbyico { display: none;} in your wiki's MediaWiki.common.css, and to hide the links in the Terms footer de Uso and Donate to Miraheze, use; li#footer-places-termsofservice { display: none;} (to hide the terms of use link) and li#footer-places-donate { display: none;} ( to hide the Donate to Miraheze link). But the question remains: why do you want to hide the links of "Donate to Miraheze", and that will not only help Miraheze, as only the servers of all wikis, including yours, donations help the servers to be more fast. I have the impression that you are trying to hide that your wiki is Miraheze, or simply assuming that they are "Wordmark". I would be more embarrassed to host a wiki on FANDOM. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 18:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Additionally, you can change the page that "Terms of Use" links to by changing MediaWiki:Termsofservicepage. However, should you change the "Terms of Use" link, I would advise you link inside your new Terms of Use page a link to the global Terms of Use (all users are bound it and all global policies). And on top of that, I am also curious why one would wish to hide the "Donate to Miraheze" button. We are, after all, a free service that runs exclusively on donations. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:14, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Nobody would want to Donate to Miraheze, I do not want people to waste their money on a free Wiki hosting service. Also, I'm not trying to hide it, they would still see the domain name anyway. TheWiki (talk) 02:45, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It may be a free wiki hosting platform, but to host something like Miraheze is most definitely not free. I don't know the specifics on how much it costs to run a site like this though it probably is a lot. So if people want to donate it would help them out too. As for your statement on "nobody would want to donate to Miraheze" that is quite honestly false. People have donated and will most likely continue to donate. All in all, I don't mind you want to potentially get rid of the donation link on your wiki...but please don't say it's a waste to donate because it is not. Hypercane  <font color="#8152C6">(  talk <font color="#8152C6">) 02:52, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There are people who donate to Miraheze (see Finance page, for example). Also, the donations are done to keep Miraheze well, I would donate if I had the money as it offers voluntary service unlike wiki farms like ShoutWiki (which puts a bitter price on removing ads) or FANDOM. So it's not mandatory, but it's necessary, because the site doesn't have ads and only survives on that. That's why I recommend that you keep this link in the footer, it's better for everyone. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger  ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Issue with infoboxes
Hello! It's not the first time that I ask for help with this particular issue. The other attempts on my part did not lead anywhere, as no Steward could offer any help due to a lack of information from my part. In anycase, that's a mistake that I don't intend on commiting this time.

After importing some .xml files from other wikis, I somehow managed to break all infoboxes, as shown on this link: (It's a Imgur link with screenshots).

Any help is extremely appreciated. -- IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 21:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Still waiting. -- IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 14:34, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * So firstly, please note that this is actually a matter for the Community noticeboard. Aside from that I can try to render some assistance here, moving to the community noticeboard if you would like. Since the wiki this is on is private I cannot troubleshoot directly. Breaking the infoboxes indicates something from your imports overwrote them or some component of them. A key culprit may be your MediaWiki:Common.css file. If it was overwritten, you may have your problem right there, otherwise I'd look into old versions of the infoboxes and any content that affects them in styling. --Raidarr (talk) 09:25, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Right. Thanks for the help, in any case. I would be extremely grateful about moving this to the Community noticeboard, if that isn't too much trouble. And, in any case, I could make the wiki public to help with troubleshooting. Again: Thanks for the help. -- IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 10:06, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Quiz about wiki creations
Some user (preferably WC), can do a quiz on example wiki requests and I'll try to get it right (approve/decline). Thanks! --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:48, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like nobody cares --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 16:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just because nobody responded (yet), doesn't mean nobody cares. Everyone has their own lives. 29TB (talk) 20:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fact. Therefore, because it is unwilling. There are things for them to solve in Meta, and that takes time. They're not so interested in doing. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I intended to assemble an odd 5-6 interesting edge cases for this prompt, but I must admit it is not at the top of my list, mainly because on my part it will entail some digging to get appropriate historic scenarios. I'm particularly interested in prompting for those which have a degree of disagreement between wiki creators, as to better test discretion and offered rationale. --Raidarr (talk) 20:37, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't quite understand your comment. But I was wondering what exactly "odd 5-6 interesting edge cases" means. I'm inclined to know how a wiki request is handled, not least because I think my knowledge is far, far from limited. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The quiz is created here. I opted to add a few more to be comprehensive and make a process that more fully encompasses how requests work. Feel free to address answers at your own time. It's a lot at once, but response time is not an element in the scenario. --Raidarr (talk) 22:02, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Problem with templates in visual editor
I wanted to make templates for a character in a story, with infoboxes (using Portable infoboxes), sections describing them, etc. I created a template for "Character", but once I embed it on a normal page and want to edit it with VisualEditor, I can't do it. Once you click on it, it becomes highlighed, and you can't type anything or edit it in any way. I can't edit it with source code, because it appears only as Template:Character, without its contents. I searched MediaWiki manual but did not find anyone who would have this problem. This is how it looks like: https://ibb.co/X7LVSRt Could someone help me out? Ozymphoenix (talk) 15:42, 29 January 2022 (UTC)


 * What happens if you click "Edit" (the blue button on the right) when the template is selected? It should allow you to edit some of the template's values? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I did a bit of digging and managed to partially fix the problem. I separated the infobox and the rest of the article as separate templates. Then I added every value from the source code to TemplateData and can now freely edit the infobox. However, when I do the same to the rest of the article (where there is just regular headings, text itd), changes are not visible in the article. Ozymphoenix (talk) 18:02, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Advanced mode
Hello. There are recent instabilities with the "Advanced Mode" that you enable in Special:MobileOptions. The problem is: you activate, i.e. click to activate, it updates but does not activate. Does this happen to anyone too? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 23:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Someone with the same problem? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 21:57, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Interwiki request
Hi! You can create an interwiki link to this link:

Do "gw" to link to https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page at https://gtavariants.miraheze.org/wiki/$1

If you can do it. Thanks. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:49, 1 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:59, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Extend a sub-section line in an infobox
Hi, So here it is, I created a sub-section line in my infobox to delimit the sub-sections. However, the line is not wide enough, so the text is compressed, as you can see here : https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Korra I would like it to be like on Wikipedia, that the line is extended : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azula Thanks in advance for your help. Darkrai18 (talk) 18:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * "1 step back to go 2 steps forward" ~ I use the Wikipedia infobox as it is used on many pages by many users, it has a simple system. It has been added to the Test Wiki. It consists of 2 parts:


 * 1) Module:Infobox
 * 2) Template:Infobox
 * I have recreated your infobox using this template on the Test Wiki to illustrate. So "1 step back to go 2 steps forward" you might like to use this and further infoboxes with this template. PercyUK (talk) 21:55, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you sure there isn't an easier way, ? First because I plan to modify other infoboxes afterwards, then because this : https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Korra Darkrai18 (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. Remembering that header must have the same number as label and data. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 22:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think I understood much... Darkrai18 (talk) 22:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Paste the contents of the top box onto mh:fiction:Mod%C3%A8le:Personnage replacing the existing infobox.


 * PercyUK (talk) 08:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, but the problem remains the same, . It puts me : "Erreur Lua dans package.lua à la ligne 80 : module 'Module:Navbar' not found.". Darkrai18 (talk) 12:06, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * do want to give me Admin rights so I can install and detect where the error is? PercyUK (talk) 12:17, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay. But you have to contribute at least once for you to be registered. Darkrai18 (talk) 18:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

RfC rules
Hi, just noting that I've created a draft proposing codification of some existing conventions surrounding RfCs as well as some new rules. Please feel free to suggest changes or add new proposals (but please don't vote on substantive issues). See User:Reception123/RfC rules. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 19:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Abuse of power in Real Life Villains Wiki
the autocratic administrator (Rangerkid51) has blocked me due to personal prejudice and is reverting my changes. too subversive towards others--Nicaragua Villainy (talk) 20:29, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That's pretty bad, isn't it? However, could you give us more details, or even mention this on the stewards noticeboard to see what action they can take? I can go review the wiki for details as well. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:44, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The block appears to have been made on a sockpuppetry charge and was performed on . Ultimately I've opted not to move the topic to the SN, but that doesn't preclude someone else - perhaps or preferably a Steward - from doing so if seen as appropriate. Typically the correct path is to appeal locally, but the charge is serious and was made with restricted talk page access, and so that doesn't seem probable. It doesn't help that the appealing user went on a spree to raise this issue in multiple places on Meta that were clearly not appropriate, resulting in the 1 week block as of this posting and his current inability to follow up with this subject outside his talk page. I think it would be reasonable for someone to ask about the rationale/behavioral evidence behind the sockpuppetry charge resulting in a heavy indefinite block with no talk page access, otherwise there's not much to reasonably do here. --Raidarr (talk) 22:59, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

CNotice translations
CNotice translations don't appear in recent changes, or did they? I have not seen. Well, that's an option for vandals, if there's no other way to monitor CNotice translations. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 23:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * By default, translations don't appear in Recent Changes unless you unselect the "Not translations" filter. I don't know how it works on Minerva Neue but with Vector, you can unselect it at the top of Special:RecentChanges. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:00, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Now that I saw. Yes, it works on Minerva too. And, how do you know I'm on Minerva? By the tags? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:04, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Earlier, you posted a link to a diff via Special:MobileDiff which tells me that you primarily use Minerva. Additionally, many of your edits are marked as mobile edits. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I use Minerva's advanced settings, to be specific. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:05, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for the bother, but...
Doug hasn't gotten back to me yet. It's been awhile and I would like to request a Wiki please? Thank you. SperosDurrell (talk) 02:53, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * To request a wiki go to Special:RequestWiki Naleksuh (talk) 02:54, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * im blocked because i was requesting to many... SperosDurrell (talk) 02:56, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * He was blocked from creating more wikis when he requested a lot of wikis. But that's a few months ago, and he's waiting for it to be revoked as he didn't try to request more wikis anymore. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 06:55, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , you may still create a private wiki of yours, assuming you only have one public wiki. But if you'd like to appeal the restrictions, go to SN or email the stewards at stewards@undefinedmiraheze.org. --Magogre (talk) 07:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There's no way to reopen your wikis in Special:ManageWiki/core? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 14:38, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Incident disclosure
On 1 February, 2022, Site Reliability Engineering received an isolated report that the MediaWiki interface indicated that a user had been shown as being logged in to the account of another user when browsing Miraheze. As a precaution, we logged everyone out of their accounts and reset all user tokens to ensure no accounts were at risk. We have no evidence that this was abused in any way nor affected anyone other than the user who made us aware.

Your security and privacy are very important to us. As such, we have steps to harden our configuration to prevent future incidents like this from happening. In keeping with our commitment of transparency, SRE is informing the community of this incident so that they are aware. No action is required from your part.

If you have any questions, feel free to reply on to this thread or email us at sre@undefinedmiraheze.org.

On behalf of Site Reliability Engineering, Agent Isai (talk) 05:19, 6 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Has the other affected user been notified individually about the issue? Are there any recommended steps toward security improvements for users? dross  (t • c • g) 06:05, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. In fact, the affected user was the one who alerted us that another user had been able to log in to their account as the other user reached out to the affected user to let them know. As this was something that doesn't have anything to do with passwords and the such, there's nothing that can be recommended to users at this time. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason why you are not mentioning the names of the two users? Or why you seem unable to determine the cause? If users are just being logged into each others accounts and you have no idea why, that is a problem. Naleksuh (talk) 06:49, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * We can name them and you yourself can see the name of the users in this task. We were able to pinpoint the issue and have filed an upstream Wikimedia Phabricator task to address the issue. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 07:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)