User talk:BrandonWM

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Redirect
Nice to meet you! Regarding the redirect CP, as you pointed out, the community portal does not seem to be used much, so I thought that redirecting to the Community noticeboard together with the redirect source is one of the best methods. I agree with the archive, so thanks for that idea! --松•Matsu (talk) 00:25, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course. Nice to meet you too! 00:27, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for the reminder. Community portal was previously used as community noticeboard, and we do have some plans to repurpose it into a Meta-only community discussion portal, as it's in Meta namespace. However, what to do with the historical page archives is challenging. I'd ideally likely to history merge them into the applicable community noticeboard archive pages, adding the wikitext back into the active revision of the page. This will take a bit of fine-tuning, though, so it's a medium-term project. In the interim, I've sysop protected it again to prevent accidental posting. Hope that clarifies. Dmehus (talk) 00:48, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought of a way. History consolidation is irreversible, so I thought about it carefully.

--松•Matsu (talk) 01:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) First, prepare a wiki that does not have a community portal and the page that inherits.
 * 2) Next, import the community portal and the page that inherits the history into the prepared wiki.
 * 3) Perform the integration work.
 * 4) Import the completed page into meta.

Editing other users' comments on talk pages and in permissions' discussions
Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,

Please do not edit the content of other users' comments on talk pages, on noticeboards, and in permissions' discussions, broadly construed, as you did here, here, and here. In addition, if you edit your own comment after someone replies to it, you must strikethrough the words you wish to redact or withdraw, taking care to follow established conventions.

Given that this is not the first time you've been advised of this via edit summaries and the fact you were advised of this in edit summaries three times in the same permissions' request discussion, following discussions with another administrator, Reception123, we've mutually agreed that a final written warning regarding this is needed. Please kindly govern yourself accordingly.

Additionally, per the terms to which you agreed in your conditional unblock, I note that I've had to delete several unneeded redirects you've created, so I would just reiterate to you to please ask an administrator or experienced user before creating a redirect.

Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 17:50, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The first one was an accident, I meant to delete my comment, but I apparently deleted part of Naleksuh's comment and didn't realize. The second time I got rid of paragraphs, which I now realize didn't make any sense. The third one I thought oppose came BEFORE abstain, apparently that's not true. And I created the redirects per a request from Discord, which the message is now deleted so I can't show you. Cocopuff2018, I believe, requested it. 17:56, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I've decided to partially block you from editing the Requests for permissions page after having ignored Dmehus' advise above and continued your disruptive editing. I'd suggest against appealing this block as it is only for a short period of time. I reiterate that it is not acceptable to edit other users' comments, anywhere. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 19:10, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have had to again remove your editing a user's post at Requests for global rights, as unless SkarletWitch edits their post, unsigned is correct. I won't add that page to your short partial block, described above, but I mean this in the nicest possible way, please discuss all planned edits on Meta first, as the current approach isn't working and you don't seem to be understanding the core problem. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 21:19, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Read my summary. Per request via Discord. 21:32, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't be editing the content of other users' posts on Meta, though, even if requested on Discord. It's simply not permitted and doesn't follow established talk page and noticeboard guidelines. This is largely because we can't verify the request was made on Discord. Dmehus (talk) 21:46, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * BlackWidowMovie0000Editor, why, after being partially blocked from Requests for permissions for disruptively editing comments after being told not to multiple times, did you then start doing the same thing to a different page? Naleksuh (talk) 22:31, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Competency is required
Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,

I know that your comments are made in good-faith, and that you mean well with your comments, but comments like this one when a Meta administrator has already replied to the user are problematic for a couple reasons, which are itemized in turn.
 * 1) They don't add anything or provide the user with any additional information;
 * 2) They may be providing inaccurate information&mdash;it hasn't even been determined whether the user is blocked on one or more wikis.

Taken together, while made in good-faith, replies like this suggest you are (a) replying for the sake of replying and (b) without having fully understood as to what the problems are. So, while you are trying to help, your replies invariably are seen as disruptive to both the requestor and the administrator handling the case.

I would encourage you to please take a step back, and not reply unless you are 120% certain that your answers are correct and only where your response adds something of value to the discussion (i.e., something that hasn't yet been said).

Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 16:44, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * For #1, I simply suggested something, for #2, it's why I mentioned a global block, global sysops/stewards generally won't block locally without community consent, and even then the user is blocked for a good reason. 16:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I know that, and I'm not suggesting that it's wrong to make suggestions; however, as I articulated, where you are uncertain of something, your replies end up being more of a hindrance to everyone involved. As well, your suggestion to use an  template wasn't correct, as that wouldn't be the correct way to handle a user blocked, legitimately or as collateral, by a hard global IP block. It's okay to make mistakes, and I'm not really looking for excuses, but rather trying to guide you to prevent you from making the same mistakes again. What concerns me more is that you are learning from the advice given. Dmehus (talk) 16:54, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * When'd I suggest an unblock template? 17:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like you may not have specifically suggested a unblock template, but nevertheless, you assumed that the user was blocked, which was an assumption you didn't need to make. Moreover, was handling it, so I would just let him handle it. Dmehus (talk) 17:22, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I said IF the user was blocked. I'll let Zppix handle it. 17:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Why are you continuing to argue with me when I've simply asked you to avoid replying to discussions where you are not providing any additional information beyond what's already been provided, where you are unsure what the problem is based on the available information, and where the administrator has the discussion well handled? As I said above, I'm not looking for excuses or for defensiveness. Rather, I'm looking for some indication that you've understood the core problem(s) here. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've understood. 17:39, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, as Doug has already mentioned theres no reason to believe that this user is evading or locally blocked somewhere. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 17:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅! I will be observing your contributions to ensure that I see that. Dmehus (talk) 18:06, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Appealing your Discord sanction on multiple user talk pages of the same steward
Hi BlackWidowMovie0000Editor,

I understand and sympathize with your frustration of being banned on Discord related to your conduct; however, please note that PuppyKun is the legitimate alternate account of steward NDKilla. As you've already asked for a local reconsideration of your conduct-related Discord ban at User talk:NDKilla, which, I might add, is the correct place to ask for such reconsideration, asking multiple times, as you did at User talk:PuppyKun and User talk:Pup, makes a nuisance of yourself, and doesn't help your case. As such, I have now deleted those duplicate requests, and NDKilla will address your local appeal after a reasonable period of time. If, after, say, thirty calendar days (30) from today, you have not heard back, you may be able to appeal to the Code of Conduct Commission; however, I strongly recommend against trying sooner than that. Even if you do end up appealing, and are able to appeal, your sanction to the Commission, you would do well to address the problems that let to your sanction and, crucially, what steps you will take to remediate the problematic behaviour and what, if any, restrictions would serve you well to help enforce that.

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 22:07, 3 November 2020 (UTC)