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 * Archive 1 (23 July 2018 - 8 August 2018)

CnocBride's Request for interwiki admin

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 * ✅ John (talk) 22:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

User: CnocBride ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reasoning for request
This is something I have always requested for. I remember making Phabricator requests specifically for the purpose of trying to get this feature implemented, but they were closed due to being not feasible at the time. However! The time has come now that being able to edit the interwiki for non-system administrators is actually a thing. I would love to help Miraheze wherever I can. With my function as an extension processor diminished, I would like a new task to complete in my free time. I believe I am a well trusted and well liked member of the Miraheze community, I always help whenever and wherever I can. I am also a CVT member, a wiki creator, I also work on helping wikis get their extensions enabled and so much more!

Eligibility

 * Have at least 1000 total global edits on Miraheze (on more than one wiki) (Note: These edits may not consist of directly copy/pasting content from other wikis, they must be edits done by the user) ✅ 2712 global edits


 * Have had their Miraheze account for at least 2 months ✅ 2 years


 * Be involved in some way in community matters (in discussions on Community Noticeboard, etc.) ✅

Additional comments given by user (if any)

 * Thank you all for the lovely support! &#32; Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs  10:08, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * 1) I propose a pre-7-day close as successful. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 17:38, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) cause why not?. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 14:45, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 2) per above. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 14:53, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) Trusted user. Can be trusted not to abuse rights and technical level sufficient for use of tool. Regards --Sau226 (talk) 15:00, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 4) User is already CVT, and we need more interwiki-admins. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 15:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 5) Hard working and trustworthy user. &#32;  Miraheze Logo.svg centrist16 | P mail.svg | Discord color D.svg  &#32; 15:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 6) Trusted.-- 16:16, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 7) Amanda Catherine (talk) 17:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 8) Videojeux4 (talk) 18:54, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 9) —AlvaroMolina (✉ -  ✔ ) 00:33, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Oppose

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開拓者's Request for interwiki admin

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 * ✅ John (talk) 22:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

User: 開拓者 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reasoning for request
I know we need more interwiki admins. The interwiki links of Uncyclopedias on Miraheze, for example, should be fixed asap, but they're not done so far (as an assigned admin/BC of the forked Japanese Uncyclopedia, I know there are tons of those links in different languages). I can monitor requests made by Japanese wikis as a Japanese native, and check whether I can add the requested links (Please note that there are some Japanese LTAs already creating several wikis; now they might want to request for a spam interwiki link). I'm also a CVT, a wiki creator, and a translation admin, which would be enough to show that I'm trusted on Miraheze.-- 16:15, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Eligibility

 * Have at least 1000 total global edits on Miraheze (on more than one wiki) (Note: These edits may not consist of directly copy/pasting content from other wikis, they must be edits done by the user) ✅ 10108 global edits


 * Have had their Miraheze account for at least 2 months ✅ 2 months


 * Be involved in some way in community matters (in discussions on Community Noticeboard, etc.) ✅

Additional comments given by user (if any)
I also checked that I am old enough to run for it (which was why I didn't run at first), btw.-- 16:15, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Rights accross multiple wikis, CVT. More interwiki-admins are needed. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 16:21, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 2) Great contributor and trusted user. &#32;  Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs  16:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 3) MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 16:43, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 4) +1 Wiki1776 (talk) 16:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 5) Videojeux4 (talk) 18:54, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 6) —AlvaroMolina (✉ -  ✔ ) 00:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 7) Most active member of CVT (my opinion only) and shown skill at using advanced MediaWiki features. Regards --Sau226 (talk) 07:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC) (under investigation)
 * 8) &#32;  Miraheze Logo.svg centrist16 | P mail.svg | Discord color D.svg  &#32; 17:06, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) I have not had a large amount of interaction with this user, despite them being in CVT, so I am not sure what to make of them. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 19:58, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Oppose

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Pkbwcgs's Request for CVT
User: Pkbwcgs ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reasoning for request
For those who don't know me, I am Pkbwcgs on publictestwiki and on Wikipedia (confirmation diff here). I have been fighting spambots on publictestwiki for a while and I am an experienced vandal fighter on Wikipedia. I am also a rollbacker on two other wikis (see here). I have been a rollbacker for five and a half months on the English Wikipedia. My experience on fighting vandalism on Wikipedia and blocking spambots on publictestwiki would be vital and useful to join the Counter Vandalism Team. Therefore, I would like to have the global CVT right on my account.

Additional comments given by user (if any)
I am not too active on meta but I am quite active on publictestwiki. Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:03, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, I am quite active in reverting vandalism on English Wikipedia and looking into the abuse log there and reverting. So, despite not being active in reverting vandalism here, I already have enough knowledge in reverting vandalism and I don't what an abuse log is and how to handle vandalism. Therefore, CVT will be useful for me and I will become more active globally and the process to handle vandalism will be faster with both the rollback and block buttons included in the CVT package. Pkbwcgs (talk) 08:12, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, please feel free to ask any questions if you have any below. Pkbwcgs (talk) 08:14, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of vandalism and spam which I can handle in Special:AbuseLog. However, unfortunately I don't have the delete or block buttons so I am unable to despite being capable of handling it with only a delete and a block button globally. Pkbwcgs (talk) 08:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I also disagree with the fact that there are enough members in the CVT. There are six members in the CVT and four stewards. That is not enough. I will be active on the CVT and there are more than 3,050 wikis and only ten users for CVT (including stewards). Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:28, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, if the issue is about global contributions. I do agree that I don't have many (under 200) but my knowledge of reverting and handling vandalism on English Wikipedia should be enough to be able to do things correctly with the CVT tools. Pkbwcgs (talk) 11:03, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, the way it is looking, I will probably have to withdraw this because I don't think I will receive any supports despite being extremely active in reverting vandalism on English Wikipedia and having good knowledge of handling vandalism. However, I won't give up yet and I won't withdraw just yet. Pkbwcgs (talk) 11:06, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I am looking to withdraw soon (the chances of this succeeding is certainly 0 %) but I would like to know what is the next step and what global permits can I gain to help out Miraheze as much as I can. At the moment, I am not feeling optimistic about the way this is going but I am not going to withdraw just yet. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:13, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I blocked a spammer at publictestwiki today at . If I had CVT globally, I would be able to help Miraheze and be able to do this globally as well. Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:28, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I have withdrawn and then reverted it because I had a bit more confidence now I have more than 200 global edits. Pkbwcgs (talk) 12:41, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no more arguments to put down so if nothing turns around, I will withdraw tomorrow on Saturday. Pkbwcgs (talk) 20:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * What people are trying to say is - They want to see you have more of a public presence on the Meta Wiki and interact with the community on a daily/weekly basis. By participating in RFC, helping users on the noticeboards, reporting spam and so much more. While your contributions to other sites are exemplary and do stand to you, I believe what people are looking for is a larger presence, one that is positive. A goal that I believe you can achieve based off your help elsewhere. &#32; Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs  16:56, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for you comment. I have a few diffs that show that I reported spam on meta. Here, I attempted to report spam but I reverted my edit here. However, I still reported it here and I got a response. I managed to get a response and a steward locked hundreds of spambots. I reported spam before but only once. However, I want to handle spam myself which is why I requested this right. Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:18, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Abstain

 * Not much interaction with this user. If other members of the community can vouch for them, I may reconsider. &#32; Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs  18:23, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Wiki1776 (talk) 22:10, 28 August 2018 (UTC) I would like to see more activity before I vote in favour.

Oppose

 * 1)  Being active on publictestwiki is not adequate by my standards, since vandalism on publictestwiki tends to be less than on other wikis, and the threshold for being granted admin/bureaucrat there is extremely low. Additionally, the user only has just under 200 edits globally across Miraheze, including the majority of those being to publictestwiki. Finally, the user does not hold any sysop-like permissions (doesn’t really hold any permissions at all for that matter) on any wikis other than publictestwiki and their own wiki. Amanda Catherine (talk) 20:33, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I have both the rollback and block buttons on publictestwiki so I am able to respond to and combat vandalism. Perhaps, if I had those buttons globally then I can combat vandalism globally. Secondly, is exactly 25,861 edits on English Wikipedia and 224 reports to their vandalism reporting page not "adequate"? The problem with the users who are opposing is that they haven't checked my contributions on Wikipedia and the amount of vandalism I have reverted over there. The threshold of being granted rollback on Wikipedia is a lot. Yes, I agree that I don't have enough global contributions on Miraheze but I have plenty of experience in reverting vandalism on Wikipedia. That is sufficient. Pkbwcgs (talk) 12:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, you are mistaken. Contributions on Wikipedia or any other Wikimedia Foundation project for that matter do not directly influence any operations here at Miraheze, since Miraheze is not directly affiliated with the WMF. Amanda Catherine (talk) 14:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, Wikipedia has nothing to do with Miraheze. Still, why can't Wikipedia edits be taken into consideration as it is the same thing which is reverting vandalism. I am unfortunate to not have the rollback button, block button or delete button globally on Miraheze so I am unable to help out in handling vandalism without any of those. Also, why can't I be trusted with a post like CVT? Pkbwcgs (talk) 15:08, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * So, I only wanted to help out with handling vandalism globally on Miraheze and I got four opposes. This is going nowhere. What is the next step? Pkbwcgs (talk) 15:22, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you feel this is going nowhere and you have already utilized every argument, counter argument and whatnot and people still won't budge, I would recommend you withdraw this request and apply for wiki creator. Wiki creator is a job that many people will have no issue entrusting with willing people. From there, build your presence as a helpful user. &#32; Miraheze Logo.svg CnocBride | Talk | Contribs  16:02, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your helpful advice. However, I have one more argument to make and I don't think I have utilized every counter argument. There is a user who has only a few more global edits than me and has CVT permissions. They also said in their request that they hold advanced permissions like rollback on enwiki in their request (I also hold advanced permissions on enwiki). I said before that I have over 26,000 edits but globally, I have more than 38,000 edits. They also said that they hold sysop and bureaucrat on publictestwiki (I do too but it is not too difficult to gain perms on publictestwiki so I will put that aside). They said they operate two bots which is what I don't do. However, I blocked spambots on publictestwiki and reported spam on the administrators noticeboard recently and to the steward's noticeboard a few months ago. I don't use IRC because I am afraid that my IP address will be revealed to the public and I don't want that to happen. I don't use e-mail because I do not wish to use it for security reasons. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:46, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the massive reply as well. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:48, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 1)  not enough interaction in the global aspect of the community as far as I know, we also have enough CVT members at this time (in my opinion). I suggest reapplying when you've done more interactions on Meta itself or in some way that will be for a lack of a better word, impactful, on the global miraheze community. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 21:56, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 2)  I do think there should be more CVT members (mainly because not all of them are always active). However, I don't think the user has enough global contributions, and thus cannot support him/her.-- 10:58, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Is lots of global contributions really required when I have almost 26,000 edits on English Wikipedia and heaps of experience reverting and handling vandalism over there? Pkbwcgs (talk) 12:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is a completely different wiki. I may consider your contributions there, but only if you have enough contributions on Miraheze. Additionally, I'm rather reluctant to consider contributions on any Wikimedia projects, because I don't even have an account there.-- 13:08, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is a very big Wiki. If I am handling a lot of vandalism there, then there should be not concern here. Wikipedia see loads of vandalism daily. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:16, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but I also know a Steward on Wikimedia has an account here, and even if you were him/her, I would cast the same vote. Contributions on Wikipedia can have different meanings; it could mean you're in fact capable, but it could also mean you're too busy working on Wikipedia to work on Miraheze.-- 13:35, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I can handle vandalism globally on Miraheze if I have at the block, rollback and delete buttons but I don't have the block and delete buttons and I don't even have rollback globally. This is why I am requesting to join the CVT. I can help out and I am willing to help out and I have the knowledge to handle vandalism. By saying that I don't have enough global contributions on Miraheze, it is letting me down. I have the rollback buttons on Wikipedia which is why I am able to help out in handling vandalism over there. What is the problem if I want to help out handle vandalism here? Yes, I am most of the time busy at Wikipedia reverting vandalism. However, if I have these button globally on Miraheze, I can spread out my time evenly and help out on both Miraheze and Wikipedia. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:53, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Then you should show that on Miraheze. Maybe it's a good idea to start from working as a wiki creator to show what you can do here (not on Wikipedia).-- 14:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I have requested the Wiki creator at Community noticeboard. Thanks. Pkbwcgs (talk) 14:17, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 1)  the user should be more active on other wikis instead of only test wiki, the user needs more contributions and trust on this project  Psl631  (Let's Chat!) 15:12, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If you look into, you will see that I am not just active on publictestwiki. Also, I don't know what is the problem with trust as I have done nothing wrong on Miraheze. Pkbwcgs (talk) 15:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd just like to point out that "trust" doesn't mean you've done something wrong, it means that you've just not been around enough for users to be sure that you are trustworthy to be a CVT member. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 05:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 1)  A large amount of issues, including little interwiki activity - Wikipedia is very different from Miraheze. If the user shows a large amount of interwiki activity, then I might support.   Malcolm Aces! Aces!  22:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 2)  Wikimedia/Wikipedia ≠ Miraheze. You need to get more involved in the global community of Miraheze and in the tasks that are done daily before obtaining any community permission like this. Contributing only to PublicTestWiki and your own wiki is not enough to be considered an trusted user in the global Miraheze community. Regards. —AlvaroMolina (✉</b> -  ✔ ) 00:26, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment. However, there is a user with almost the same number the same number of global edits who has this global permission. Why can't I obtain this permission. Pkbwcgs (talk) 06:58, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 1)  Per the reasons already provided by fellow colleagues. &#32;  Miraheze Logo.svg centrist16 | P mail.svg | Discord color D.svg  &#32; 00:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)