Requests for global permissions

Agent Isai's Request for Interwiki Administrator

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 * Clear consensus. Dmehus (talk) 01:51, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

User: Agent Isai ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request
I am requesting Interwiki Administrator as I wish to help out more, not only locally but globally. I believe that by becoming an interwiki administrator, I would be able to improve user satisfaction with Miraheze by helping process interwiki requests in a timely manner. At this present moment, 6 of the 9 Interwiki Administrators have not had any significant community interaction in over a few months and about 3 of those haven't had any log actions on Meta in nearly 2 or more years. Of the remaining 3 Interwiki Administrators, since the beginning of July, Ugochimobi has mostly been handling interwiki requests (as far as I can see on Discord) which is understandable as the remaining 2 interwiki administrators are busy as, apart from their real life duties, they also help Miraheze globally (for Doug, as a Steward. For Universal Omega, as a sysadmin.). For the aforementioned reasons, I would like to help the current Interwiki Administrators to continue processing interwiki link requests in a timely manner while not compromising security to help improve user satisfaction with Miraheze. Thank you.

Requirements: Agent Isai Talk to me! 19:08, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Global edits (1,000 required): ✅ (1,437 locally)
 * 2 months account age: ✅
 * Be involved in community matters: ✅, I actively help on the noticeboards and on Discord/IRC

Questions for candidate

 * 1) One question: What do you plan to do once you have acquired the right? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:19, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * As stated in the request, I plan to help in processing interwiki requests in a timely manner. There is not a whole much an interwiki administrator can do other than processing interwiki requests. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:28, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  I mean, there's no limit to Interwiki administrators, right? So, why not? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:27, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  I think the rationale is reasonable and the user is quite capable of the responsibility that's needed. --Raidarr (talk) 20:02, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * 3)  Will be a good addition to the interwiki administrators' team. --Mazzaz (talk)  01:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * 4)  Agent is an extremely active user (both on Meta and discord, which are both ways to make a IW table change request), very trusted user, and overall seems likes a great addition to the team.  —［ <span style="font-weight:800; padding:0.25em 0.5em;border-radius:.35em;background-color:#d2527f;background:background-image: linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -ms-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -khtml-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228););color:rgba(255,255,255,1);text-shadow:0 1px 1px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2)">Bukkit  ］［  Talk  |  Contributions  |  Barnstars  15:56, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * 5)  Agent Isai appears to currently be very active on Miraheze and I would have no problem with supporting for interwiki admin per the comments made above. --DeeM28 (talk) 13:21, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  YellowFrogger (talk) 15:53, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, could you give a reasoning why you strongly oppose this request? Thanks,  —［ <span style="font-weight:800; padding:0.25em 0.5em;border-radius:.35em;background-color:#d2527f;background:background-image: linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -qmoz-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -ms-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -khtml-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228););color:rgba(255,255,255,1);text-shadow:0 1px 1px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2)">Bukkit  ］［ Talk  |  Contributions  |  Barnstars  16:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It just doesn't help others much, and makes a lot of repetitive responses. I try to be an interwiki admin myself, but I can't. YellowFrogger (talk) 16:05, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan took me to this page, saying it was here to request the interwiki admin, but I want to be interwiki admin locally only. YellowFrogger (talk) 16:07, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * As per the discussion we had on my talk page, we have a policy on Interwiki Administrators which must be followed. I linked to discussions on the Stewards' noticeboard which establish precedent for being granted rights locally on a wiki where no community exists but you seem to have unfortunately disregarded that. The reason why some of my responses seem repetitive is because there's not much to add to already established policies, I am unable to add my own commentary or override the policies. I will note that I am not a Steward, you seem to have confused me for one, and a such cannot assist you or even grant you the rights if I did believe you met the criteria. I am sorry for not being able to assist you but I did direct you to the Stewards' noticeboard where a Steward can give you additional advice or determine your case on a discretionary basis. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:30, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought you were a steward (who can do anything) and that's why I charged you... YellowFrogger (talk) 17:29, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Current stewards are listed in a few places and will also have that clearly noted on their main profile. It's best to make sure before assuming, for something of this scale especially. --Raidarr (talk) 23:30, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


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Raidarr's Request for Global Sysop

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 * Request successful. John (talk) 16:40, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

User: Raidarr ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request
This is a fairly bold request. After conferring with various users including a current Global Sysop, I believe this is as good a time as any to make the request and let the collective decide.

I have been on the platform for a while now, and while there is always more to learn, I believe I have a strong grasp of global policies, including ones especially pertinent to a Global Sysop's scope - Code of Conduct, Username Policy, Content Policy (in addition to my capacity as Wiki Creator), and of course others including Terms of Use and Privacy Policy which I may partially address, but defer as necessary to other operatives including Stewards, Trust and Safety and SRE.

I would offer offer an additional hand on deck CVT matters (deferring for advanced cases), community support through the capacity described in the opening lines of Global Sysops policy (which allows me to mediate as a third party in communities that clearly request for it in the event Stewards may simply be too busy or not necessary), and allow for more proactive outreach and investigation by having another hand on deck. I would also offer an alternative perspective and field of contribution, as existing members of CVT (GS/Stewards) are often overcome with life or their other duties, and I am in a position where I can offer daily availability. I am a firm believer that multiple eyes make better decisions; even where I am confident, there are cases I'd still like to seek additional input to refine my own process and to make the decision stronger. For issue resolution if I cannot fix it personally or collectively with peers, I like to set what groundwork I can and pass the issue to someone who can resolve it cleanly.

I make a point of at least observing, if not participating in many notable communities hosted by the platform on top of Meta itself. Some, such as AllTheTropes, are administratively quite stable even if I make a point of knowing and visiting as a reader from time to time. Others including the recently added Ball wikis, the renowned reception wikis, and others newly created (perhaps by me :p) and found via Special:WikiDiscover (which I make a point of looking at periodically) may require extra hands. In several cases I have offered support and participated. With or without this global group I intend to continue efforts to try and stabilize them, for their own stakes and for the image of Miraheze. But I do think this request can make me more useful.

In my view, I have the required blend of basic competence/familiarity, ability to defer and improve, and an assortment of pre-inputs necessary for this request to make sense. Naturally though, this is a question for the wider community of Meta, global operatives I have not had a good chance to discuss with, and the global community who may or may not know of me. In any of those cases I am open to advice, feedback and discussion in public or private. Thank you for your consideration, and my apologies if this came off as too wordy. --Raidarr (talk) 14:28, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

 This Global Sysop request shall remain open until at least 19:00, 23 December 2021 (UTC) 

Questions for candidate

 * 1) What do you plan to do when this is accepted by all means, aside from helping with doubling up CVT reports? --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Firstly, familiarize with the resources I have little ability to experience as a regular user, such as cvt (I have heard of this page, but lack full context). Any adjustments including logging process, perhaps a bit of action on the test wiki as necessary should be explored before I use the tools outright. From there I intend to support in handling clear cases in shorter time and where needed, deferring for advanced matters but observing their process so I may handle them optimally in the acceptable bounds of a GS. From there, I'm afraid my plans are unformed and speculative. As much as I would like to act in a community operative capacity as the policy indicates is possible, it is an unexplored area and not something I would be comfortable working with immediately, outside of what I could do as an ordinary user of course. Avoiding intrusion on the wide and clear scope of a Steward on this topic would be important and likely require a dedicated conversation with them to explore how I may support them within the bounds of policy. --Raidarr (talk) 15:14, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) How would you monitor and respond to vandalism or violations of policy? --DeeM28 (talk) 18:33, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * In monitoring I expect to depend on user reports often provided via chat to CVT, but additionally keep an eye on known areas of vandal and/or CoC problematic activity. A majority of reports that I have seen and situations that arise tend to come from areas that predictably are subject to unwanted attention. From time to time I'd also give the CVT feed a glance as it offers useful flags of what may be problematic both from the regular areas and less known locations. In other words, a combination of addressing reports and proactive glances at areas that could be sources of concern. --Raidarr (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) What previous countervandalism experience (if any) do you have that would make you a good choice for this position? --DeeM28 (talk) 18:33, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Via the usual reporting outlets, this is a weaker point for me. Not because I am unable or have never produced reports, but because situations are typically caught and forwarded by a variety of users who proactively scout for issues. Ultimately I prefer to fill gaps in coverage and attempt to see situations through in their entirety; I am not the best candidate to be on the front lines proactively identifying them. However, between Meta and a variety of other wikis including sweeps through recent entries of WikiDiscover, I have found and attempted to address, resolve, or properly forward local issues to users who can help. These ranged from mundane instances, to potential incivility/light CoC disruption requiring mediation but not global intervention, to manual reversions of vandalism alongside other responders (such as when Meta was attacked by the 'noncyclopedia lta' not long after I received patroller right and before getting rollback) and observing, reporting or lending input regarding more serious cases, ie, background discussion and light investigation of a well known LTA who uses sentences for usernames. --Raidarr (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Do you plan on being regularly active? --DeeM28 (talk) 18:33, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I do, ideally to usually appear on the platform and resolve pressing matters within a day or so, and at least keep tabs on more intricate ones to hopefully resolve them sooner than later. I don't forsee my current activity being compromised in the near future. --Raidarr (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Global Sysops assist Stewards and support the community. Based on your interpretation of policy, what is the scope of Global Sysops and when do they become involved in matters?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:15, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Global sysops in a nutshell 'take the edge off' for Stewards. While more intricate matters and functions such as CheckUser, Oversight, reopening wikis for adoption requests, providing exemptions and so forth all are and will remain in Steward hands along with ultimate discretion on tricky subjects noted within their scope, CVT/GS traditionally has and currently does resolve fairly routine cases of vandalism and other clerical/typically obvious violations. At times they may act more deeply to address a community on behalf of and with oversight from Stewards.
 * Less tested in the current writing of the policy is: "supporting the community and working with communities to address issues facing them locally". Currently I do not know of any precedence where communities have gone out of their way to solicit a Global Sysop in place or on behalf of a Steward aside from functions noted above. If solicited to mediate an issue, I'd be inclined to follow up on it if convinced it is the community's will. That said, in scenarios with substantial ambiguity or if a request is made with say, particular users unhappy about local administrative actions that are in line with local policy/convention and do not counteract global policies, it would not be my place to engage, especially not without the aforementioned oversight. Either way for communal issues I believe multiple eyes are better. --Raidarr (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Do you have previous experience in using some of the tools without the Global Sysop toolset? Namely the CentralAuth interface for locking users?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:15, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I consider myself proficient in all notable administrative interfaces, special pages and naturally the CentralAuth tool in a local administrator and ordinary user capacity. I claim awareness and proficiency, but admit I am not the most efficient or expert with MediaWiki tools. In particular I am not confident with AbuseFilter, and I'd leave it to an experienced colleague until I've become sure I won't do something exceedingly dumb. Likewise I intend to be conservative with interfaces I haven't used much or require a certain process to be done accountably (though from what I see, this is typically just performing the actions through Meta so they are centrally visible). --Raidarr (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) What are your definitions of a long-term abuser, what about someone who abuses multiple accounts? Additionally, when would you lock a user? For example, when would you lock a user for a Username Policy violation? What about a Code of Conduct violation? Vandalism?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:15, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Roughly, multiple account abuse is measured as an isolated case where a user has used another account to deceive or abuse presumably only once, up to a few times with the understanding that it will stop. Long term abuse marks where the previous case is taken well past the point of stopping, many accounts for obvious bad faith intentions where remediation is no longer the key and instead patterns emerge to identify and eliminate the LTA when they appear. In both cases I may need to defer the matter to Stewards, as LTA tend, but don't always make themselves obvious, and multiple account abuse typically requires sufficient evidence as provided by Steward investigation including the use of CheckUser.
 * A lock is typically employed when (per above) there is no apparent chance from the start that the user is present to bring something good to Miraheze, or when the activity is sufficiently disruptive/repeated despite warning. Duration may apply by the nature of the issue (ie, I believe it is 6 months to block a proxy, a special case where it is a clerical violation of the no open proxies policy), otherwise if they're necessary they would typically be applied on an 'appeal manually' basis. In the second scenario and in any case where a user has reasonable benefit of the doubt, a lock is a measure of last resort. The more ambiguous, established and justifiable the user, the more remediation should be considered unless it becomes apparently impossible to do so. Typically (and especially when the topic is clearly 'sticky') this should involve the consultation of fellow GS and/or Stewards.
 * In general for a UP violation, it is preferable to leave a message reminding of the policy, a note that specifies where the issue is, and direct them to the rename request form to resolve the issue. In cases where the username is sufficiently disruptive on its own, an outright lock may be employed - there is a line, if a little tricky to define, where a user is acting in good faith and just didn't realize the policy and when remediation is not worth the time. Behavioral evidence (ie, account created with a questionable name then used to perform vandalism) makes this question easy. Often these violations transparently accompany LTA behavior as well. Otherwise, there's no reason it can't be resolved amicably.
 * Typically I would prefer to escalate based on the nature of the violation with steps being a) local warning/discussion, b) local block/stronger warning, c) global warning + whatever extra local action is needed, and d) global lock. Severity is measured by the nature of the violation (user who gets into fights with certain other people but generally contributes for example, vs a user who is constantly argumentative on just about anything, employing homophobic slurs to result in quick wipe of the content + firm globally-applicable warning if not an outright lock if that is the sum of their value based on contribution history). I would be inclined only to act at a) and b) scale if local management is not present or not able to resolve the issue, most proactively (but hopefully not too frequently) at c) scale and if necessary at d) scale. I'd escalate more quickly for users who only perform CoC violations as their Miraheze activity and in cases where the abuse crosses multiple wikis, especially if it enters the vein of targeted harassment. Otherwise I prefer a stance of conciliation and being conservative with the tools.
 * While vandalism may be subject to modifiers requiring discretion, it typically falls in two camps; local vandalism which wouldn't merit my action if suitably handled, and lock in the case of an account made to vandalize multiple wikis. --Raidarr (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * 1) So far, I've seen a lot of support for Raidarr to become the next global sysop, and it seems like it's going well. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:33, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Close now. I think it will be unnecessary to let it take up to a week to close, although that is the rule YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 22:36, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * A week is a good standard practice, I feel (beyond being policy). Things can happen in that time and I notice various names are not present on the vote, and may be taking more time to consider. More power to them in doing so. --Raidarr (talk) 22:49, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  This guy has been helpful in providing advice on here and on other wikis on this platform, but we'll see if this passes by any means necessary. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  He is one of the most helpful and active members of the community, and has worked alongside high-authority users in the community countless times. I would say he would be able to do this job well. TigerBlazer (talk) 16:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 3)  Definitely support this request. Always been helpful; definitely active; definitely trusted.  17:16, 16 December 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * 4) I'm voting support here because it doesn't seem to hurt: although it's a bold choice, or your account isn't a year old yet, it would be nice of you to have that role. He has already created several wikis without injustice and has already helped some users on the noticeboards. YellowFrogger (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 18:00, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 5)  It's like an early Christmas present for the community. Raidarr is an excellent and active community member who regularly interacts with everyone on IRC/Discord and provides thoughtful ideas and insights. I completely support this and am very glad to see it. I hope this leads towards a Steward request in time too when you've had a bit of experience.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:57, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 6) Raidarr is an amazing user here, definitely a great volunteer. I also believe I have said that he should be a Global Sysop. If only there was a strongerest support. -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 22:02, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Not to mention his cross-wiki support, helping wikis have an amazing opportunity to be great, is a great example. I really hope that you later become a steward. :) -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 00:38, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  Strongest support chain!!! haha <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨
 * Just to interject and not shoot my own supporters, while I certainly appreciate what seems like a record set of enthusiastic supports, I'd like to see and encourage supports that provide concrete rationale and reflect a honest personal assessment, rather than support for a trend. Superficial supports can and should be dismissed upon Steward review. --Raidarr (talk) 01:33, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I actually support you in that comment, per Bukkit. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨 02:07, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * He's asking you to express your opinion because you want to keep him as a global sysop. You just randomly voted like it was just 'fashion' because the others were just voting in a humorous way . But I think that, in my opinion, he didn't need that on his part. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 02:41, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Anyway, thankfully you cited Bukkit as an example, although that's not really recommended (Bukkit just said he was a volunteer fighter). As you've been editing for months, I suggest you speak because you want Raidarr as global sysop YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 02:45, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I meant I would say the same thing as bukkit: Raidarr is an amazing user here, definitely a great volunteer., but I'm just busy at that time and also lazy to type :P <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨 02:48, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the clarification ^ --Raidarr (talk) 08:30, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  After reading the responses to the questions posed and also the contributions of Raidarr it is my opinion that he is fit for the role. In an ideal world I would have preferred that Raidarr applied for Global Sysop at a later point in time to amass even more knowledge about the functioning of Miraheze as this request is made only 5 months after having registered. That being said the responses to the questions demonstrate that Raidarr has a good understanding of Miraheze's global policies and also has a good idea about how he would enforce said policies and what the role of Global Sysop entails. I also appreciate Raidarr's proposed approach of conciliation rather than immediate use of tools and think that it is something important that has sometimes been ignored by some. I can therefore see no reason to oppose this request and believe that Raidarr will do a good job enforcing global policies and engaging with communities and will be helpful to the current Stewards and Global Sysop whose activity has not been great in the last few months. I would like to recommend to Raidarr that at the beginning of his tenure as Global Sysop he takes things a little easier and does not hesitate to ask his colleagues for help regarding the customs, conventions and other aspects of the position as to not do things substantively differently than the current 'Team' does it. Good luck! --DeeM28 (talk) 08:47, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  I may be only a little active at the moment (student life is hard...), I see that this user is active, and can be trusted with these tools, so I can only support that. :p HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 14:46, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 3)  --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 16:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 4)  After reading all responses, plus the fact that Raidarr is actually gonna be a good GS, I know this personally even before this request came up. --Ugochimobi (talk) 16:58, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 5) Was busy but had to spare some time to vote  here (as HeartsDo said student life is hard). Raidarr has been helpful and active around meta and #CVT on Discord/IRC. I trust them and their judgement and I believe MH is more likely to benefit from having one more non-sysadmin functionary/GS. --Magogre (talk)  04:17, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 6)  Per other support !voters. It appears to be a avalanche down here. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

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YellowFrogger's Request for Interwiki admin
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 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Though there's no minimum support ratio for interwiki administrator, the arguments presented are rather weak, referencing an English Wikipedia essay on hat collecting rather than asking the candidate policy- and technical competency-based questions, perhaps the strongest argument here comes from the candidate themselves in that, rather than taking the time to ignore the growing chorus of users chiming in with references to an English Wikipedia essay, if the user had taken the time to reply to Raidarr's questions, he might've actually had a supportive argument from Raidarr, if he demonstrated both technical and policy competence, as this really is a rather minor global group, policy-wise, even moreso than wiki creator. I wouldn't suggest waiting three months or anything, as nothing in policy suggests that to be the case, but I would suggest joining us on IRC and Discord and engaging with one or more active community members in terms of the best way to volunteer, on Meta Wiki or globally, with the hat(s) that would be the best fit. Dmehus (talk) 04:10, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

User: YellowFrogger ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request
In priority with users who request interwiki table changes mostly on their own wikis, usually including the server channel on Discord in the interwiki request channel and here on Meta-Wiki with users who rarely ask on the Community noticeboard or stewards noticeboard, I will serve all these users by consolidating the existing interwiki administrators who actively contribute by serving interwiki requests on these servers or noticeboard. This here is an interesting contribution form and following the content policy and the main rule highlighted which is about not adding malicious or random sites in the other's interwiki table, this will also include me checking all the URLs cited by the requesting user. Note: I also often call interwiki 'interlanguage' or "In other languages" as this is added by the wikibase extension. Thanks for reading. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 02:20, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Questions for candidate

 * 1) Why do you believe this is necessary, given the quite acceptable response times + activity of existing interwiki administrators as well as the rarity of these requests in the first place? --Raidarr (talk) 02:34, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Subsequent to your prior requests for permissions, can you offer anything else as reason for why you believe you should hold this right? --Raidarr (talk) 02:34, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) What is the scope of interwiki administrator and their responsibilities, in your words? --Raidarr (talk) 02:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 4) How active are you going to be as an interwiki admin? <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨  03:27, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Oppose
Also, I'm a he not she <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨 03:57, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  per WP:HAT and WP:NOTYET. YellowFrogger, as I have indicated countless number of times, you are a very valued contributor but the fact that you keep requesting hat after hat locally (patroller, wiki creator, and translation administrator) and have just had your patroller flag revoked and were barred from translating pages locally on Meta is concerning. Your request, while in good faith, does not instill trust at all. Users in advanced user groups, especially in global groups, should have a high level of community trust. Based on what I've seen on Discord and on-wiki, I do not believe you have the community's trust. You were advised to wait before making new user rights requests and I do think you should follow that advice and not hastily request more rights and hats without first gaining the community's trust and becoming acquainted with policy and conventions along with addressing any issues raised by local users and administrators. If you do do that, I will have no problem in supporting you in, say, 3 months, if you address all my and the community's concerns.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:44, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not that I'm harvesting hats, it's also the fault of the very complicated questions on the noticeboards, with that, any comment given is a peanut, moreover, prohibited from editing translations. The interwiki would be a way of contributing to consolidate these. There isn't much for me to do in these three months, if you see me editing a little, you already know what it is (lack of what to do). Anyway, until you voted to oppose my RfGr, thank you for your comment and constructive criticism. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 03:28, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Whoa, this is WAY too soon. And besides, you already recently gotten your autopatrolled status back after another admin revoked your flag for questionable behavior. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 03:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * All cited issues have been resolved. And I don't think it's too soon, my account was created in October 2020 (and I started actively editing in September). I have nothing against your vote, much less you, but given the positive change in my behavior, I see no reason to vote to oppose. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 03:20, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you just got your autopatrolled flag back. That's why I referred to this as too soon or at the very least, too early for you to request new permissions. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 03:29, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your constructive criticism. But I need you to mention what I should be doing in these months (not including translations). Besides that in the next 3 months my free time will probably be reduced. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 03:40, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) I per Agent Isai and DMM. September? 3 months? No that's too soon! Can you just stop requesting more rights for a month, your patroller just got revoked few weeks ago <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨  03:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you say why not wanting me as a global interwiki citing beyond the opinions of others? This will make more sense to your vote, it will help me with things I should improve rather than a summary loop - anyway, when we are worried we see and cite the person's concern feeling their motives, especially when it's absurd . But her own opinion, running away from what users said above, would help the candidate a lot (and especially what he should exercise in matters) not integrating what has already been alluded to. Thanks. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 03:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It's just too soon and it's hat collecting to me. Also, you've done some weird things here on meta like putting messages on Bukkit's talk page about a broken twinkle edit that he can't do anything about, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on an RfC, or deleting fullstops from templates. Although those are unrelated it just gives you less community trust.
 * "But her own opinion, running away from what users said above, would help the candidate a lot" can you understand the word "per"? I just have the same opinion as Agent and DMM.


 * I'm just sorry if I don't trust the community even though I'm contributing a lot. That RfC no longer counts for doing a month beyond and still being an opinion - this shouldn't count as an excuse to vote for an RfC/RfGR. In the case of the Bukkit, being save this to oppose is discouraged at least for me. You should take this as a warning and not a curse or a joke, this one was making unnecessary edits, having to end up with Meta being hurt by peanut-style edits. As I give people second chances, he won't do that when he isn't winning an RfC again. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:10, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Strongest - I get the feeling that they are planning to open a HATSHOP on Miraheze Meta Wiki. Definitely, I won't consider any request until a fair amount of time has passed (3 months per Agent or even more in my view). --Magogre (talk)  04:04, 20 December 2021 (UTC)


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Ugochimobi's Request for Global Sysop
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 * Unsuccessful; does not meet the requirement for ten (10) unique users, other than the candidate themselves, to have expressed a view. Though Magogre has replied to Anpang and may or may not count towards one of the unique users, it still is not met because that would only be nine (9) users, other than the candidate themselves. Aside from that, chief concerns seem to be the candidate's ability to not only understand but interpret and apply our global policies as well as a lack of a Counter Vandalism Team activity, though the candidate is thanked for their efforts as an interwiki administrator globally. Dmehus (talk) 22:21, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

User: Ugochimobi ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request
I'd like to express my interest in joining Miraheze's Counter Vandalism Team of Global Sysop and also assisting current Stewards.

After speaking with some active community members and of course, looking at my unsuccessful request for stewardship, when I was advice to go with the GS role, I have decided to request this bit at this time.

I want to be a plus one to the current global sysops, in fighting cross-wiki spam and vandalism. I believe I have a sufficient understanding of and command of MediaWiki to use pages like Special:Multilock (where I need to fill in the box with a list of spambot or vandal accounts, one per line, select lock, and provide a good reason.) and Special:GlobalBlock (which blocks the IP address across all of Miraheze based on what was set; does not apply on meta unless the option on meta is ticked, which should only be used for good reason because it removes the IP's ability to appeal on meta). In accordance with the policy of Global Sysops, I comprehend that I will have limited sysop-style rights across all wikis, and that I should only use my tools if the local sysop or crat fails to respond to vandalism, If global or local filters are triggered and not responded to in a reasonable amount of time, or if I receive a direct request for assistance from a member in good standing with that wiki community. I am capable of dealing with issues on a global scale, and I have demonstrated this ability. Because I live in Africa, specifically Nigeria, I am going to be able to cover the UTC+1 timezone. I regularly monitor all wikis' recent changes feeds via IRC/Discord, which has aided me in personally determining when something happens on Miraheze. I have a competent knowledge of the current global policies, including but not limited to our Code of Conduct, User accounts policy, Username Policy and of course the Global Sysop's policy. I am generally active accross all Miraheze's platforms (Noticeboards, Discord, IRC, et cetera.) I believe even in my deepest "I know what to do", that I wouldn't hesitate to seek advice from a fellow Global Sysop.

Please do not hesitate to use the comment section below to leave your comments, Thank you very much. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   00:22, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Questions for candidate

 * 1) Global Sysops chiefly work in the field of counter vandalism. What previous experience do you have in global counter vandalism?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this question. Counter vandalism from a global viewpoint is a serious part of Miraheze that needs a close headup. I normally watch the feeds and report any fishy behaviour I see from there. Globally, since I haven't been a global sysop before, I haven't directly handled requests to lock or block any account. However, with my technical understanding of how the role works, I can handle global counter vandalism. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:08, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Did you speak with any members of the Counter Vandalism Team about your Request for Global Sysop before you filed it? If so, have they mentored you about this?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I spoke with a current CVT member, and No, I was not mentored (perhaps I misinterpreted what you meant by mentored). --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:08, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Recently, a dispute occured in a wiki you helped manage which resulted in you mass deleting pages, could you clarify why that was and additionally assure us (and demonstrate) you can keep a cool head under stressful situations?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:31, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I normally have a cool head under stressful situations. I mean that incident occurred when He (the other user) started threatening me on telegram with sort of words, although I don't want to go deeply into that, but I don't think that has to do with my request. But in a nutshell, I don't easily get tensed under stressing and pressing situations, I am normally cool tempared. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   01:08, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) Under what circumstances would you apply a global lock/block and why? When global locks/blocks should not be used and why? --Magogre (talk)  03:06, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mag for this question, I'm am not the wordy type, but my reply to this in a nutshell is that Global locks/blocks should only been used on IPs or accounts that have spammed cross-wiki (globally), or account(s) that's was created as a suckpuppet of a globally locked or block user (and that should be obvious) for example this Abigblueworld's case that has been ongoing for the past weeks now, or an account that violates the Username Policy (before a total block/lock, the user should be notified that their username violates our username policy), et cetera. This action shouldn't be taken if the account vandalises just one wiki, perhaps a local block by a local staff of that wiki would be better. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   05:13, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) What is long term and cross wiki abuse? What does the word abuse mean to you as the global sysop? How would you deal with it (LTA, X-Wiki and abuse)? --Magogre (talk)  03:06, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Generally Long Term/CrossWiki Abuse is when a user uses their account to continuously spam, vandalise, disrupt wikis for a long time probably after a notice or warning. Abuse isn't just about misusing an opportunity, abuse is to repeatedly misuse an opportunity. But for LTAs, I wouldn't mind giving them a warning on their talk page about their editing behaviour. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   05:36, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) How will you find out if an account is a spambot or not? --Magogre (talk) 03:06, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * If an account is bad egg, it would be visible and clear to anyone watching the Global Recent changes feed. Their editing behaviour could also tell. (I might have more reply to these later on, as I'm currently on mobile). --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   05:36, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) I was waiting for him to answer here. In general, I have never seen this user doing anything wrong and we may need global sysops (2) these days. He helps by putting interwikis on the table by discord (as joseph) and on the wiki. If he's already made a serious mistake (I never noticed), it's normal and you learn from mistakes. --YellowFrogger  (Talk — ✐) 02:29, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Helpful and kind. Generally seems to be  a helpful  guy, so  this is my !vote., if any sketch happens regarding canvassing I'll move to oppose. I  get Global Sysop. -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 00:21, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1)  <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨  01:05, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , will you please describe why are you neutral and leaning towards weak oppose on this request. Your reasoning may be helpful for other to determine their !vote. --Magogre (talk) 14:41, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  I thank Ugochimobi for his boldness and willingness to help undertake the counter-vandalism workload but I do believe this is a very strong case of WP:NOTQUITEYET, particularly in the field of Ugochimobi's global countervandlism work. I would strongly suggest Ugochimobi first participate in the work more by reporting global vandalism and reverting it before requesting tools once he's demonstrated a clear need for them as I do not see any a valid need in this case for tools due to his general lack of global counervandalism work. I spoke with Ugochimobi in private who said a current Global Sysop told him to wait and I do agree with that assessment, it would be better if he waited and participated more in the work before requesting the Global Sysop hat. Additionally, the recent incident on FAMEPedia does make me question his ability to maintain a cool head so I would like for Ugochimobi to work during this time to assure the community he can keep a cool head during stressful situations to prevent taking rash decisions.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 08:43, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) I cannot support this >>  <<,--MrJaroslavik (talk) 12:11, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  Sorry, but I have to agree with what  has said in his oppose. Maybe come back in about 6 months when everything is squared away. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:53, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have full respect for your oppose, also, I'm not the candidate but this little problem cited occurred 5 months ago, so we should give it a chance. Since then he must have changed a lot. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 00:57, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  After thinking about this request for some time, I feel I have to NOTYET this request. Looking over your CA and the associated contribs, I also don't see much evidence of effort within global countervandalism. As I frequently express, learn to use "undo" to the best of your ability before requesting additional tools.  dross  (t • c • g) 05:49, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  I have to concur with Dross here. I don't think it's necessarily fair to still hold the previous canvassing over you, which occurred 5 months ago, but I do feel that the lack of demonstration to the need of these tools and the ability to perform in counter-vandalism leads me to oppose this request. I encourage you to do to the best of your ability counter-vandalism without these tools before re-requesting.  05:55, 28 December 2021 (UTC) ］ |


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Arcversin‎'s Nomination for Global Sysop
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 * There is a strong consensus here that the candidate is trusted, technically competent if not very proficient, amicable, and generally well liked. It's so strong, in fact, that this view is unanimous, as far as I can tell from my read of the salient points of this community discussion. The community's principle concern is Arcversin's relatively modest number of global edits on Miraheze and on Meta Wiki together with the relative new-ness of his account. It's important to stress, though, that as Arcversin rightly pointed out, to which Agent Isai concurred, it is edit quality over quantity that matters. That being said, quantity does matter to a certain extent when it comes to assessing current and recent Miraheze counter-vandalism experience, as the community does not want another "fly-in, fly-out" Global Sysop as several users, including DeeM28 but chiefly Agent Isai, have pointed out. They want to know the user will be here to stick around over the medium- to long-term and maintain a reasonable level of volunteer activity for the specific role. Sadly, though, to do an effective job actual counter-vandalism and spam remediation work as a Global Sysop requires global permissions. To obtain an advanced permission such as Global Sysop requires activity and on-wiki Miraheze counter-vandalism experience. Without even a minimum of global user rights as a counter-vandalism volunteer, one is at a strategic disadvantage against a vandal, vandalism only account or LTA. This presents the age old catch-22 situation where the situation is difficult either way. We do struggle with attracting and retaining active, technically competent, policy-compliant, and policy knowledgeable community volunteers as well as technical volunteers, especially technical volunteers, but the community, and, indeed, Stewards as well, have set a particularly high bar of expectation for the Global Sysop role, chiefly because the role has the  user right and assists Stewards with enforcing our global policies, so are expected to have solid analytical and judgment skills. So, this global permission request actually underscores that we don't have a sufficient number of global groups able to assist Stewards and serves to inform an RfC I will aim to bring forward in the next several weeks to establish another global counter-vandalism role. As an alternative, I would also present an alternative proposal for the community's alternate consideration, which would be to instead remove certain high competency, "high bar" user rights (i.e.,  ) from the Global Sysop toolkit, but the current situation of having two very "high bar," high community expectation global user groups is insufficient to continue with Miraheze's growth (and no, Bukkit, I've already got the draft partially started, so do not create one). Additionally, as permitted by the Stewards policy, I will be consulting with existing Stewards regarding the potential creation of a Steward-delegated   group, as Arcversin clearly has the technical skills (as evidenced by this abuse filter suggestion implemented) the Steward and Global Sysop groups (excluding Void, of course, who clearly has the technical competency/proficiency when it comes to JavaScript and abuse filters that Arcversin does). Stewards would then, in turn, consult with the community on the ways in which this group should be used, any prerequisites that should be required, and any revocation criteria. That being said, Arcversin is thanked for agreeing to have raidarr put his name forward for consideration, and for all that he does for Miraheze, whether it be improving or adding Lua modules on Meta Wiki, gadgets on TestWiki and Meta Wiki, or with approving and declining wiki requests (for which he's one of the most active wiki creators). Dmehus (talk) 02:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

User: Arcversin‎ ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log )

Reason(s) for request
Greetings Miraheze. After conferring with the candidate and a few others, I have decided to nominate Arcvee as a platform Global Sysop. I believe he has a more than adequate understanding of global policies, and importantly judgement to oversee them properly and defer when uncertain, or communicate when multiple opinions are needed. Aside from that he has considerable experience on Miraheze and a strong background, quite acceptable activity and invaluable knowledge in handling abuse filters and other technical issues that would be a boon to have in CVT duties and in assisting Stewards. Thus, I first request that he accept this nomination - I don't expect trouble - and for the community to see his potential, as well as the value of more talent and more hands on deck as Miraheze grows. Thank you for your consideration. --Raidarr (talk) 23:56, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I accept this nomination, and am grateful to Raidarr for his kind words. I welcome the community's questions. — Arcversin (talk) 00:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Questions for candidate

 * 1) Global Sysops are chiefly a countervandalism role. What previous countervandalism experience (if any) do you have that would make you a good candidate for the bit? Judging from a quick glance at your Miraheze and Wikimedia CentralAuth, you do not seem to have any so is there something I am missing potentially?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * In terms of countervandalism experience, I am an antivandalism patroller and rollbacker on the English Wikipedia, and on Miraheze, I am engaged in combating vandalism and LTA activity (particularly on Meta, as you can see from my activity), and have in fact designed a userscript to assist in combating RequestWiki vandalism. Furthermore, I actively monitor Miraheze's IRC feeds, which are important tools in monitoring for vandalism and responding to user reports. — Arcversin (talk) 01:14, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response. Reviewing your English Wikipedia contribtions, I will note many contributions are concentrated in on certain days/few days before a total halt in them for a while and then a repeat in the cycle a few weeks/months later. I see you make use of tools such as Huggle extensively to make the bulk of your edits. Do you primarily use tools all the time when engaging in any countervandalism duties on the English Wikipedia or any other wiki? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I find tools to be incredibly useful in countervandalism activities on the English Wikipedia, given their ability to automate common tasks such as warning and filing reports, and to digest sheer quantity of edits on enwiki. — Arcversin (talk) 01:32, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Do you plan on staying active should this request be successful? We do not need another Global Sysop who pops up once in a blue moon.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I already plan on remaining active, and will necessarily become more active should this request succeed given the assumption of greater responsibilities. — Arcversin (talk) 01:14, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reassurance. I look forward to that commitment should this request be successful. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Global Sysops "assist Stewards in supporting the community and working with communities to address issues facing them locally," based on your interpretation of policy, what is the scope of Global Sysops and when do they become involved in matters?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * As defined by policy, Global Sysops have the responsibility to assist local communities and the Stewards by becoming involved in situations in which local sysops/bureaucrats have not responded to disruptive activities in a reasonable amount of time. A Global Sysop thus becomes involved in local matters when their involvement would be unambiguously welcomed by the local community, which primarily consists of combating routine vandalism and LTA activity. What exactly is meant by a reasonable amount of time is dependent both on the egregiousness of the vandalism and whether the local sysops merely haven't responded, or are inactive long-term. In situations where the local sysops merely haven't responded, Global Sysops should lean towards deference, preferring only short-term blocks in most cases, while if the local sysops are inactive, Global Sysops should be more willing to take action. This balance also takes into account the severity of the disruptive, as, for example, porn vandalism is essentially always worthy of immediate involvement. In situations which are ambiguous or controversial, ultimate discretion lies with the Stewards, and Global Sysops should refrain from taking unilateral action, and consult with others. Furthermore, Global Sysops have the responsibility to enforce global policies and counter disruptive actions on a global basis, which ranges from blocking LTAs, cross-wiki vandals, and particularly egregious single-wiki vandalism-only-accounts, to enforcing the Username Policy and the No open proxies policy. Situations in which a wiki itself is engaged in the violation of global policies are the responsibility of the Stewards, and the situations in which I can imagine GS action being warranted (goatse on the main page, malicious scripts, that sort of thing) moreso resemble account compromises or someone requesting a wiki for trolling purposes. — Arcversin (talk) 02:49, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response. I have no issues with your understanding of the Global Sysops policy page though I will note that Username Policy enforcement action should only be carried out by Stewards though Global Sysops are well within their right to warn any offending user and request they change their username. Additionally, please note that Global Sysops do not enforce all global policies. Policies like the Terms of Use are rather obviously enforced by Trust and Safety and there are also a few other policies which are not enforced by Global Sysops either. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) To those who would point out that you have little edits on Meta (~360) and globally (~1500) and a very short track record, what would you say to them?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I would remind them that it is the quality, not the raw quantity of edits that matter, and that neither logged actions, such as wiki creations, nor off-wiki engagement with the community, are included in ones edit count. I would also ask them to define what they mean by a "very short track record", and to substantiate that claim. I would also ask them to elaborate as to why they disagree with the judgment made in the nominating statement. — Arcversin (talk) 03:10, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed, edits are not always a good way to measure a candidate's preparedness but they can assist in gauging the amount of community interaction one has had. After all, the community cannot agree to promote someone who they've barely interacted with. In order to assess a candidate, the community should be well acquainted with them in order to be able to determine whether their behavior, their knowledge and application of local and global policies, along with other factors make them a good candidate. For that reason, I would argue that community engagement is very important for this role and that edit counts are one way to, at a glance, get a gist of the user's interactions with the community and to know whether they've been around enough to help the community get a good glimpse of them. As for "very short track record," one could argue that you have a little countervandalism track record that mainly concentrates on clusters of edits on the English Wikipedia and not many here on Miraheze apart from the occasional rollback here on Meta. What would you say to them? That may not paint a good image of commitment to some or, if you were requesting the bit yourself, could paint an image of hat-collecting. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) This request reminds me very much of your very recent previously unsuccessful requests for administrator (1, 2) where your main points for the bit was your experience in Abuse Filter and the main points against you were that it was too soon to be requesting the bit. What makes this request different to those? What has changed in the past month from both of those requests that allows you to take on a much higher global role?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I would disagree with your assertion that the primary point of opposition was WP:NOTYET (which is about early closures for very new users), rather, it was a lack of a properly articulated rationale alongside a feeling that there wasn't much of a need for additional Meta sysops. — Arcversin (talk) 03:25, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair, the main points of opposition to your RfP were that there wasn't really a need demonstrated in your request reason which could stem from a lack of articulation but there were a few points raised against you in the area of low activity (other than wiki creations which is your main specialty currently) which could correlate into the request being done too soon. This still does not answer my question of what makes this request different from that and what makes you feel confident that you can tackle a higher global role. Additionally, to those who may question why despite low activity (apart from wiki requests), locally and globally, you are seeking the bit, what would you tell them? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Are there any recent examples that can allow us to see clearly that you are well acquainted with both local and global policies?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Would you mind asking a specific policy question? This is quite broad and I'd like to know what you're looking for here. — Arcversin (talk) 03:47, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Any really. Whether it's a good example of you being able to mediate a dispute using a policy, citing a policy correctly, handling a difficult wiki request correctly in accordance with policy and global convention/best practice, etc. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * One example in which I applied the Content policy would be in the case of wiki request #23690. The Miraheze Content policy requires that Content on wikis must be fairly balanced, meaningful or substantiated by independent referencing, although Wikis which have a clearly identifiable comedic or satire value are exempt from needing to substantiate claims. The (initial) contents of this request indicated that the user was requesting a Wikipedia-style general encyclopedia (as opposed to an ideological encyclopedia such as socdemwiki) in which the contents of the wiki would "follow Beijing's official stance on all issues". The request indicated that this "official stance" would be presented as factual information in the wiki's own voice, as opposed to being presented as the stance of the Chinese government. As this characteristic was defining, the requested wiki thus ran afoul of the aforementioned provision, and considering that the wiki did not fall under the exception for comedic wikis, I declined the wiki request citing said provision. — Arcversin (talk) 04:07, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  This user has shown knowledge of the policies, and in my opinion, would fit for Meta Sysop. With their knowledge of JS, policies, and AF, they would help with the CVT work significantly. -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 00:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  Has been very supportive, and helped out with handling wiki requests alongside a few other things that I can't really list from the depths of my head at the moment. It would feel more of a headache if I listed them all, but yeah. All-in-all, I hereby support this. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:59, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  silly me, obviously as nominator. --Raidarr (talk) 12:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  Trusted user Silicona (talk) 15:21, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 5)  Thanks for your help! AlPaD (talk) 13:56, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 6)  A trusted user. It seems that he also understands miraheze policy.-- 1108-Kiju /talk 16:48, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 7)  while I believe they are trusted and understand global polcies, I'd also have to agree with some of the opposes below that it may be a bit early for this. Nonetheless I still give my support (albeit semi-weakly) here.  07:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC) ］ |

Oppose

 * 1)  – Looking at their CA, I don't see any x-wiki counter vandaliam work and would expect some before going to RfGR. Startus (talk) 03:49, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  Even if I think it is absolutely a welcome change that the candidate has not nominated themselves as was the case for the administrator requests since that was a very repetitive process I would unfortunately still not feel comfortable supporting this request at this time. I would like to first thank Arcversin for their detailed and reasoned responses to all the questions being asked which prove that the knowledge of Miraheze policies is certainly not the issue here. The main issue which is why I do not feel comfortable supporting is the fact that even if Arcversin seems to be qualified in theory for this role my perception is that he does not have enough experience in practice and is not active enough in discussions on Meta. I unfortunately was not able to access #miraheze-cvt IRC logs in order to check whether Arcversin has been active there because of to an error ("No logs found, try a different filter") but if he has not been then my argument stands. If he has been active on IRC by way of reporting vandalism, etc. I would doubtlessly reconsider my vote to a support as due to my belief the main aspect that is missing for Arcversin is that interaction which I believe is chiefly important for Global Sysops whose main role is to rapidly respond to reports and resolve them. Finally I would like to point out that I understand that it is hard for Global Sysop candidates to understand what is needed from them in order to become Global Sysop but it is also important for there to be a bar set somewhere otherwise anyone who appears to know Miraheze policies and has been on Miraheze for a few months could qualify for Global Sysop. For me that bar should be good knowledge of Miraheze policies, activity and interactions with users and the current Global Sysop and Stewards team. I would consider supporting such a request in the future if this step is taken or alternatively if I am mistaken and the user has indeed been active on IRC or Discord in terms of Global Sysop reporting. --DeeM28 (talk) 06:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I am active in reporting vandalism in #miraheze-cvt, and I monitor the IRC channels (including the both -cvt and the varioys feeds) consistently while online, so I would be available and ready to rapidly action reports. — Arcversin (talk) 12:23, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I confirm as well he is reasonably active and helpful in IRC CVT, as well as present on the irc/discord channels in general, and I find his communication (at least with me as a Steward) to be quite satisfactory. Direct reporting is infrequent, but often times it's not necessarily the reporting that is the key in my experience, and he tends to be useful in followup advisory. The technical background that is limited in CVT ranks helps as well. Not unlike John, I consider his strength to be in his measured approach and knowledge more than 'quantity'. --Raidarr (talk) 14:04, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , sadly. I have spent the past few days thinking about this, consulting others on the topic, and reviewing everything pertinent to this topic and I cannot support you just yet. I think it is great that Raidarr is going around recruiting people to Global Sysop but I cannot support this nomination. While it is great that you have a good understanding on the Global Sysops policy page, I think you still need more experience for this role. Unlike Raidarr when he made his RfGS, you do not have the commitment, community engagement, or edits I would look for in a potential candidate. It's great that Raidarr is vouching for your communication with him (as expected with him being your nominator) but I haven't really seen you around much on #miraheze-cvt doing much reporting apart from, say, a potential Username Policy violation or two once every week or two. You say that you've engaged with the community on Discord/IRC but as a Discord/IRC regular who is on those two platforms every single day answering questions, I have not seen you around too much. Your activity has risen a bit but only in this past month. Your activity mainly consists of just wiki creations, nothing more. You cite your English Wikipedia contributions but most of them are concentrated in a cluster of a day or two/three of tool usage before disappearing once more for months. I would like to see more commitment from your part for the bit before thinking about requesting it. We already have one Global Sysop who pops up once every blue moon, we do not need another one who artificially inflates the count without actually doing anything. I would also like to see some more long-term community engagement, on-wiki or Discord/IRC and more cross-wiki vandalism work. How can the community support somehow who might disappear randomly and who they're not too acquainted with? I believe it is too early for you to be running for the bit and ask you to consider and address these outstanding points, all of which are absolutely crucial to being a Global Sysop. With all this being said, Arcversin, do not think this is criticism of you. I am simply stating that I feel that it is way too early to be requesting the bit. I encourage you to continue your contributions to Miraheze, especially in non-wiki creation fields, before thinking of requesting advanced permissions. Make no mistake, your contributions are very valued and I encourage you to continue on Miraheze and remain undaunted. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 04:35, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  I agree with Agent Isai. I think it is NOT ELIGIBLE FOR GLOBAL SYSOP YET!
 * 2) I just think its still early --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 14:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  I have put more thought into it, and has decided, as per the above, and my careful consideration, have decided that it is a not quite yet case. I do not change my above points about the candidate, but I believe that he should wait a bit more after this request (a month or so). -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 00:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)


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