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Wiki Request #21180
Hi DarkMatterMan4500,

Could you describe for me your thought process in how you rationalized approving wiki request #21180, not just as okay-ish/a conditional edge case, but a bit vague, but otherwise pretty good against, principally, Content Policy? This is the fundamental policy against which wiki creators must consider when approving a requested wiki.

Notably, the requestor themselves even acknowledged the request was highly unlikely to be approved, saying there was about a 1 in 5 chance it would be approved.

Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 06:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Please see 's question on Discord, as a long discussion of it can be seen there, as I was just asked this the other day, and I regret approving that wiki request. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 09:48, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Thank you for your reply, and for the link, which I've re-read; however, not all Miraheze community members are members of the Miraheze Discord channel. For their benefit, I'll summarize Agent Isai's, Raidarr's, and Ugochimobi's responses. Agent Isai asked you whether or not the proposed wiki sounded like a content of Public Test Wiki, to which you replied that because the name was not similar to TestWiki, it was not a content fork. Raidarr, Ugochimobi, and others, affirmed Agent Isai's views, with which I'd agree. It was your response, and subsequent responses to others' questions, in which you said you were "skimming" the request in order to approve it. Equally so, you should never feel compelled to "skim" wiki requests in order to manage a requested wiki queue backlog or otherwise. Review of wiki requests requires thoughtful consideration of what the wiki's purpose is (i.e., what it is in a broad, general sense), what does it propose to write about (i.e., what it is about), and whether we have any substantially similar wikis, to which it might be better to guide the requesting user to consider contributing there, and requesting any permissions locally as they may require. As I've guided you on a number of either hastily approved or questionably/incorrectly approved wikis a number of times, notably back in May/June of this year, I was hoping to get more of a sense of your thought process behind this approval, beyond the link to the Discord server thread you shared. Do you have anything else to add to that, or does this suitably summarize that thought process? Dmehus (talk) 15:31, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, as of now, I'm just being cautious about whether or not wiki requests are to be approved. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:37, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Now I'm dealing with the same LTA who's been rampant this year. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:50, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Let's not get sidetracked with unrelated discussions about LTA(s). Anyway, thanks for your reply. While you do decent work in terms of helping to manage the wiki request queue, your "batting average" (that is, the ratio of wikis you correctly approve to those that should've been declined, whether outright per Content Policy or as needing more clarification and details in accordance with Content Policy) is not great. Agent Isai has reported this wiki request. That one is not as bad as the wiki request described in the section header of this thread in that it does describe what the wiki is about, it does not describe how that wiki will write about its video games. As well, since it's ostensibly being created by the video games developer, to what extent, if any, will that wiki be used for commercial purposes? Companies can have wikis on Miraheze, and many do, but what matters is whether the wiki is being used for commercial (i.e., for monetary gain) purposes. A wiki providing providing product support documentation would be fine, but a wiki that solicits users to purchase its video games would not. In other words, we don't know from that wiki request's description how this wiki will be used. While this is certainly not your first warning on the matter, I am also cognizant of the generally good work that you do, but please know that I will be reviewing your wiki requests more closely over the near- to medium-term, and will be looking for improvement in your overall capacity to learn from mistakes and demonstrate increased overall judgment in wiki request approvals and declines (in your case, your good decline ratio is much better than your good approval ratio). Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 14:15, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I had a feeling that was why you unarchived this section here. I admittedly had to look up what 62studio was about, given the conversation that I had with Agent Isai last night, and I didn't know that it was NSFW-related until I looked it up on Bing just today. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:18, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply, but again, it's interesting that you still approved it even though you had a conversation with a colleague (Agent Isai) on it. NSFW wikis are generally fine, but convention is to recommend that they add a content advisory to their wiki that the wiki is not recommended for users under a certain age (usually 18), and again, it needs more detail on what that content will generally be. Please do not only keep this in mind, but apply it to your future wiki request approvals. Dmehus (talk) 14:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Right. I'll keep that in mind for future approvals or declinations of wiki requests. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:48, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 14:50, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:25, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

A request
Could you please change mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:MediaWiki:Mainpage on Wretched YouTube Videos Wiki from Terrible YouTube Videos Wiki to Wretched YouTube Videos Wiki and delete the mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Terrible YouTube Videos Wiki page? There's no need for two versions of the main page, and the original main page shows the full history. The reason why I'm requesting this here and not on WYTVW is because for some weird reason, there is an error on your talk page there. FatBurn0000 (talk) 21:52, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I tried fixing it, but I might need either or  assistance, as there are multiple errors that need to be fixed. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:05, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Also, there's something that needs to be done on mh:dreadfulbooks:Dreadful Literature Wiki. I took a look at these logs, and I have realised that this wiki is actually a migration of the Fandom version, and therefore, it contains the original main page at mh:dreadfulbooks:Dreadful Books Wiki and is older than I thought. However, Eiji deleted the page rather than deleting the automatically created new main page (which is the page that is usually deleted when a wiki migrates to another site). Could you please rename the main page to Dreadful Books Wiki, restore the deleted edits, and rename it back? The full history should be there. FatBurn0000 (talk) 08:02, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * They have been redirected to the Dreadful Literature Wiki main page. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the history still isn't there. FatBurn0000 (talk) 21:56, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * , please see w:WP:TALKREPLY. Thanks! --Magogre (talk) 06:23, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Custom domains
hi, the miraheze custom domain, I can use changeip this free subdomain server in my wiki?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 11:45, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:53, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I want to miraheze have provide it ip number? No name service--Msnhinet8 (talk) 11:56, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think they would provide "IP numbers". DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:57, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * so only can name service?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 11:58, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * sorry i can little english.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 11:57, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This question is better asked on Phabricator I think. --Raidarr (talk) 12:49, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ok, thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 13:58, 26 November 2021 (UTC)