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How do I change the theme of my wiki?
So, I want to turn Dream Fiction Wiki green, but how do I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlegSlaviraheze (talk • contribs) 08:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * First, welcome to Miraheze, and to Meta. Second, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) . Third, to answer your question, your wiki's style and apperance is done through Cascading Style Sheets, principally in your wiki's MediaWiki:Common.css interface file. You want to start with this very basic answer to this question at: FAQ. Beyond that, you could use your Discord account to join our Discord server, where a number of CSS experts exist to provide one-on-one support. You can also ask on IRC, at ; however, I do recommend using IRCCloud as your IRC client, as they provide a complimentary IRCCloud IRC cloak upon registering for an account, as your IP address would otherwise be available in an unmasked format. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Exporting my wiki
Depending on my association request, I may have to move the wiki to a private server. Is it possible to export a whole Miraheze hosted wiki including its pictures (jpg, pdf, svg...)

AMITRAM (talk) 10:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry to see you go :( You can export your wiki via Special:DataDump. Good luck with your wiki! Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 10:06, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't intend to, and I hope I won't have to. But my association may request it.
 * I'm sorry to bother you with this, but all my pictures will be exported along with all the wiki content (pictures and theirs old versions of one file ?) ? And then I can import them into my private server ?
 * AMITRAM (talk) 10:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, actually, Reception123 had not too long ago told me what the purpose of each of the three types of dumps was. XML includes all the public, non-suppressed revisions of your wiki, an image backup includes your uploaded files and images, and a ManageWiki backup includes your configuration settings from ManageWiki. I should also add that by "public," I mean the public revisions accessible to your wiki's audience (i.e., for your private wiki). Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 10:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks to you all for your answers,
 * I have a specific issue, I've added a new member with a read-only permission yet he can still modify existing pages, how can I prevent him from doing so ?
 * AMITRAM (talk) 11:27, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can modify any permissions by going to Special:ManageWiki/permissions. For example, if you want 'members' not to be allowed to edit, you would uncheck the edit right from their group. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:41, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I went to Special:DataDump for this wiki and I didn't find any options for generating the dump. Is this restricted to administrators?  Is the dump compatible with Special:Import? Тишина (talk) 18:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, Special:DataDump requires the,  , and   to use. By default, as seen here, it is assigned to the   user group when wikis are created (though local wiki bureaucrats can change this). There are three types of dumps, one contains the wiki's ManageWiki configuration settings, one contains the wiki's locally uploaded files and images, and the final one is a public XML export of all publicly available information (i.e., non-oversighted revisions, no private user settings, no user IP addresses, etc.). This latter dump is compatible with Special:Import, as it generates a similar XML file that Special:Export does. Note, though, that there is a 250 MB file size limit on wiki imports. Larger imports require a Phabricator ticket. As well, if you are importing a large number of templates and modules with a number of revisions, but which are below that threshold, you may time out and receive a 503 backend fetch error, so you should avoid that and request on Phabricator. Also, you can login to Phabricator using the "click here to login with MediaWiki" button, and it'll use your wiki login credentials to create an account for you. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:44, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * If you want to test the administrator tools, such as Special:DataDump, you can head over to Public Test Wiki, and request permissions, taking care to read its policies and stating a reason for wanting to test the tools. Though less common, you can test the generation of an XML dump of that wiki. Dmehus (talk) 21:46, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Like Special:GlobalRenameRequest
I want to make my local wiki like Special:GlobalRenameRequest, Special namespace's request page. How to make? Thanks. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 01:49, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe that special page can only be accessed on Meta. Can you clarify how you mean? You want to make a new separate special page? You could possibly try the PageForms extension, but not sure if that's what you're after. Dmehus (talk) 02:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I want to make a new separate special page. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 02:56, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That involves some php coding expertise, and would then likely involve you submitting that special page to either Wikimedia's Phabricator or Miraheze's Phabricator, depending on which extension it's related to. This MediaWiki help page provides some instruction on the mechanics involved in creating a special page. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:31, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * To add to (and perhaps clarify) what said, you would have to create a MediaWiki extension in order to have your own kind of special page. This does indeed require PHP developing skills. In addition, the extension would have to be secure in order to pass our security review process which is mandatory for every new extension excluding ones used by the Wikimedia Foundation. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:26, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

My miraheze
Can I get help I'm new here? Hrvcfr (talk) 01:35, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Firstly, welcome to Miraheze, and to Meta wiki. You're off to a great start by signing your posts with four tildes . Second, what do you need help with? Dmehus (talk) 01:44, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can start at FAQ. If you have more questions that aren't covered there then you can ask.  Тишина (talk) 01:45, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I need ppl to help my miraheze Hrvcfr (talk) 01:46, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

My miraheze
Come join criminal world if you are interested in crime topics.

Hrvcfr (talk) 01:58, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You should wait until your wiki has been approved and created. Also, I note you've created two threads with the same section header. Your section header should concisely describe your topic on the noticeboard. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 02:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry Hrvcfr (talk) 02:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 02:07, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

TwinkleGlobal
You can test beta Twinkle! Thanks! Gomdoli4696 (talk) 09:17, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * User:ChipWolf/TwinkleGlobal
 * User:Gomdoli4696/TwinkleGlobal
 * Thank you both for your work in importing that user script version of Twinkle on Miraheze. That will be helpful, and more streamlined, for users than setting up and installing the MediaWiki gadget version. I personally try and avoid the Twinkle templates, as I find them too formulaic and imperfect. However, Twinkle does have some very useful features, notably the pseudo-rollback feature "restore this revision." Dmehus (talk) 22:59, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Cross-wiki contributions
We can view Wikimedia project's cross-wiki contributions, Then how to view miraheze's cross-wiki contributions? Thanks. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 22:53, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * We would love to be able to offer the global user contributions tool on Miraheze; however, it's very resource intensive in that every query of a user's global contributions is a query of every database for every wiki to which the user has attached their account. Hopefully, we'll be able to offer it in the future, but there's no timeline for such an offering. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 22:56, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 23:11, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Scary transclusion is not working as expected
Hi altogether, in this topic I asked for an interwiki prefix. The prefix is working fine, but it seems to me that scary transclusion is ignoring all includeonly/onlyinclude/noinclude tags. Here is a template on my wiki: Transclusion, what it looks like in the same wiki and here an example of scary transclusion in an other wiki. Is this a bug or a feature? Am I missing something? Is there anybody out there who is using scary transclusion? Thank you for your support, Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 07:39, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll have to look into whether scary transclusion ignores the  and   tags. It's definitely possible this is either a known issue or a bug. In the mean time, you might try searching Wikimedia Phabricator as if it's a known issue or bug, that's where it would be tracked as it is a so-called upstream issue (outside of Miraheze's own maintained source code). In the mean time, what I might suggest instead is to essentially use it for very basic pages and templates. For example, you might create a "clean code" version as a subpage of the existing page, without such tags or a several levels deep of transcluded templates. As well, it is after all called scary transclusion for a reason. As just one example, see this example revision in my TestWiki sandbox in which I attempted to transclude the Special:GlobalUsers special page (note that this special page does not have local transclusion built into it, although I was able to transclude the page using scary transclusion, with, as you'll see, unexpected results). Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:10, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it seems this is actually a long-standing, and still open, bug, as seen in this Wikimedia Phabricator ticket. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you so much for your support. I had already the idea of adding a subpage with clean code but this does make life not really easier. With this bug scary transclusion is more or less useless for my purposes, Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 06:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have tried the method with clean code in a subpage of the template and performed some experiments. I could not find a way to pass parameters; compare "normal" transclusion with parameters with scary transclusion with parameters. This fact restricts the usability of scary transclusion to templates without parameters. Maybe there is a way and I just could not figure it out, Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 08:49, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Considering mw:Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding, maybe might work with parameters. K599 (talk) 16:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, having done some tests, it seems like using "raw:" works with "noinclude" and "includeonly" tags correctly. K599 (talk) 19:05, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you so much, raw: does the trick! Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 07:13, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Wiki community project script
I made a script that will display banners for wikis and provide a list of links at the bottom of the page for other wikis that have interesting topics or already have content on them.


 * https://tishina.miraheze.org/wiki/Wiki_community_script

Тишина (talk) 19:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Gazetteer
Could crimeworld be added to the list??? Ty Hrvcfr (talk) 06:58, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have just reverted last time because your wiki was not created, but you can add it now ! HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 07:05, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * How?? And thank you. Hrvcfr (talk) 07:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can add it when you did last time (depends of the category who are your wiki), and for create a link to your wiki, you can use the magic interwiki word  (for example for your wiki, this would be  ) HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 07:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ty Hrvcfr (talk) 07:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Np, you can maybe a little expand your description, but for the rest is OK :). HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 07:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Could someone please get the word out for the wiki I created??? Ty Hrvcfr (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Mywikipedia
Looking for more people to contribute to my wiki. Any ideas? It's https://mywikipedia.miraheze.org -- Iron Sword 22 (talk) 01:18, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

GlobalPreference
How to set? --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 23:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Please use Special:GlobalPreferences. The first column represents whether to set that specific setting globally; the second column, to the first's immediate right, represents whether to enable that specific function or setting. In Special:Preferences, for settings you've set globally, those settings will now be greyed out unless you set a local exception on that wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:49, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I was mistaken. Sorry. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 04:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Multilingual glossary ?
Hi, I started translating some pages of this Meta wiki into French.

Q: is there any multilingual glossary here that we could use to ensure homogoneous and consistent translations? Example: (en) e-mail address -> (fr) adresse e-mail or adresse courriel ? Gerdami (talk) 07:09, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That is an interesting idea, do you know how the Wikimedia Foundation (for example their Meta wiki) deals with this? Maybe we could also use their method. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no idea, sorry Gerdami (talk) 09:51, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually there is one at mediawikiwiki:Manual:Glossary that is currently translated into 3 other languages. Gerdami (talk) 11:51, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for suggesting this, Gerdami, with your question. That latest interwiki link is to the MediaWiki software manual, so wouldn't be a specific Wikimedia standard or practice. I would think the common sense way to handle this would be a Meta Wiki style guide (a Miraheze Meta Manual of Style, if you will), with a specific section focused on translations. Definitely not opposed to such an idea, but would be a rather large undertaking. As well, if it becomes too comprehensive in other areas of writing, it may encourage users to view that as a policy with little flexibility. I do like to follow stylistic conventions in some ways, but moreso for technical reasons than grammatical or vocabulary-type reasons. Even in English, we have some pages that no doubt use certain British or Canadian English spellings intermixed with U.S. English. Ideally, we should use a consistent English variation on a given page, but any WikiGnome can correct these as they see them. So, I would just say, go with whatever you prefer. Someone may prefer something else in the future, so it could get changed. If two French translators disagree on something, they can just discuss it on the talk page (though preferably not the  language subpage of the given talk page). Hope that helps a bit? Dmehus (talk) 14:48, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , the interwiki link I provided was just an example. If you agree I could start making a Help:Glossary page (I think it would be a good location) in English with the terms I find relevant while translating some existing pages into French, for example from the FAQ page. These terms could link to existing pages. Gerdami (talk) 18:15, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that's not a bad location for the final page, but I'm not sure what this would look like, so I'd rather suggest using a subpage(s) of your Meta userspace for now, and we can always move the page into Help: namespace and/or history merge in the earlier revisions from your page(s) as required. Dmehus (talk) 18:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Good suggestion. I will start that way. Gerdami (talk) 07:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Some problems about using out image
Oh, I wanted to show forum users' avatars in the main page automatically. It seems to be easy&mdash;all of forum users' avatars are in mc-uc.netease.com, so I only need to show the image of https://mc-uc.netease.com//data/avatar/userid_avatar_middle.jpg as a out image. Then I looked up mediawiki.org and enabled. I have known the setting will be invalid in Mediawiki 1.35+ so I also enabled.

After that, I used two forms –  and  .But to my surprise, there was only an icon of a damaged image and the avatar was not showed.

I also used widgets, but it was the same end as that two forums. I have tried other image urls, a few of them was success.

I seem to have found a problem - almost every out things such as out images, out js especially hosted in China things (for example China-cdn js) can not work on Miraheze. But in other wiki they can. The same code in zhmoegirlpediain my wiki(NMFWiki)

Why? If some settings are controlling it?

Thanks, --开炸弹车 (talk) 13:25, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Inspecting the console shows CSP blocking "mc-uc.netease.com", so you would need to open a Phabricator task to add that to the CSP whitelist. K599 (talk) 19:41, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Local interwiki request
I'm one of the admins at nssports and I'd like to request this as a local interwiki:

I'd do it myself but I don't think any of our admins has made 500 edits yet. Thanks for the help and I'm happy to address any questions. Kelssek (talk) 22:53, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The 500 edit requirement for local interwiki administrator, as far as I am aware, doesn't seem to be enforced. All that's required is that you be a local  on your local wiki. Nevertheless, I'll add this for you. Not a problem. Do you need either the   or   flags enabled? Dmehus (talk) 23:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ without the   and   flags, but can always be changed should the need change. Dmehus (talk) 23:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This works, thanks! --Kelssek (talk) 23:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 00:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Gadget Cat a lot
Is it possible to have this feature "Cat a lot" in my Wiki ?

AMITRAM (talk) 17:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yep. Gadgets, unlike extensions, don't require security reviews or approvals by system administrators to install. I'm not that familiar with that gadget's installation procedures, but speaking just generally, it involves importing the JS and CS files into your wiki's MediaWiki: namespace, then updating MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition to reference the gadget and its file, configuration variables, and the like. recently installed it on his wiki, so may be able to offer some assistance. Dmehus (talk) 17:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm gonna ask him.
 * Do you know where I can't get help for PDF files support ? I can't get thumbnails for this file format.
 * AMITRAM (talk) 17:50, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

My miraheze vanished
Travelguidesworld is gone. Plz fix. Hrvcfr (talk) 17:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not gone. just fixed the URL, as I told you in the wiki request. Additionally, I should also note that this was tracked on Phabricator as #T6324. You can now use travelguidesworld as your URL. Dmehus (talk) 17:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ty doug. Hrvcfr (talk) 17:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 17:54, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Poor SVG preview quality on commons.miraheze.org
Hi, I have recently uploaded two SVG images on commons. The preview files have a very low quality, this is much better in my wiki, compare to. Maybe the reason is that the SVG Converter on Commons is in default position commons settings (click tab Media). I have changed this in my wiki to Inkscape. Is there a specific reason for the setting in commons, maybe server load? Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 05:50, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This is an interesting problem, and you're right, the uploaded version on Miraheze Commons is of a much lower quality. You've certainly identified one possible explanation, but I must admit as to not being certain as to the exact cause. I am going to, a local  on Miraheze Commons to see if that may be the problem and, if so, to the effect the necessary change on Commons. Even if it's not the problem, as he is very technically inclined with all or most aspects of MediaWiki software, he may be able to identify a solution. Dmehus (talk) 09:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I’ve adjusted the setting, not sure if that’s fixed it. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 11:15, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem seems to be solved. I uploaded another SVG, the quality is nice now. AFAIK the preview images of former uploaded pics stay unchanged Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 11:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Advanced mobile edit
How to use to  function on my wiki? I don't know how to. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 07:32, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Inactivity banner while active
Hello

My wiki shows an inactivity banner even though there were recent edits and the Inactive checkbox is unchecked.

How should I fix that problem?

Thanks

Vincent Vinny (talk) 08:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for signing your posts on Meta with four tildes, and welcome to Meta. Per Dormancy Policy, wikis with no recent changes edits or log actions in at least 45 days are marked as inactive. At 60 days, the wikis are then marked as closed. In either case, if you are a local  on your wiki, you can go into Special:ManageWiki on your wiki and uncheck in the inactive box. Additionally, you should also make at least one edit or log action as well. If your wiki has a fair number of informational content pages (i.e., recipes) made to be read by real people, then you can apply, at stewards' noticeboard for an exemption to Dormancy Policy. Dmehus (talk) 09:04, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I've just re-read your above post, and you do note that the inactive box is unchecked. Have you tried purging given page(s) where you see the banner by adding  to the end of the URL in address bar? It's possible the page just needs to be purged to clear that banner from displaying. If that doesn't resolve it, I'd suggest e-mailing   as there may be a maintenance script of some sort that needs to be run by system administrators. Dmehus (talk) 09:07, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. I tried the  trick, but to no avail. I will send an email to tech. Thanks Vinny (talk) 13:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I am looking into it now... Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 13:58, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It appears I have now fixed it so it doesnt show the notices anymore, you may have to clear your cache however. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 16:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed! Thanks a lot for your help and . I'm very happy to use Miraheze, with the power of a community. Free and efficient! Vinny (talk) 18:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Request for evaluation of the wiki rules
In order to cover all my bases, I would like to have people associated with Miraheze's moderation/overview to take a look at SocDemWiki:Rules just to see if there is any disagreement or possible improvements. I just want to avoid any trouble that could get my wiki deleted. Godless Raven (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * While I haven't looked at your local wiki's rules, it's excellent that you have established them. As long as your wiki complies with all aspects of Content Policy from a content perspective and your wiki's users comply with, and your local rules don't come into conflict with, Code of Conduct, you should be absolutely fine and need not worry. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 11:04, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi,, I just wanted to be safe. I really appreciate Miraheze and don't want to become persona non-grata. Godless Raven (talk) 15:49, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox
I have problems using the infobox template, I have followed the instructions only to get the infobox and a displaying link saying Label:Template Other that does not go away. What should I do? Marcdmc (talk) 11:36, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Miraheze, and to Meta. Thank you also for signing your posts on the noticeboards with four tildes . You're off to a great start. Please note that I have just procedurally moved your question from stewards' noticeboard to community noticeboard, where it is now in scope. Someone should be able to answer your question shortly. Dmehus (talk) 13:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Notification of Directors' Meeting, October 23 2020
Good afternoon everyone,

This is a late notification, however, attached is the agenda for the next Directors' meeting taking place tonight at 20:00 UTC. Late suggestions for discussion at the meeting are accepted until an hour before the meeting. Please either suggest them here or email owen@undefinedmiraheze.org. Agenda is at. Owen (talk) 12:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 1. Why is it exclusively available in PDF? That is certainly not the wiki way of running things. If you need PDF for compliance stuff, that's fine, but please consider using the wikitext version for posting on wiki. That's not that hard. Maybe takes few more minutes, but that's negligible. Especially when Miraheze don't have PDF file preview like Wikimedia Commons.
 * 2. Also, please indicate the license of the file, otherwise I will assume it follows the license of the Wiki, which is at this time CC BY SA 4.0 Intl. Thank you. &mdash; revi  17:57, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox country for Dream Fiction Wiki
I couldn't make it myself, can someone help me recreate the country infobox of Dream Fiction Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlegSlaviraheze (talk • contribs) 12:16, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * First, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) . If you find yourself frequently forgetting to sign your posts with four tildes, you can type the topic title for your noticeboard topic and click "add topic," instead of using "edit source," and a preloaded message template including the tildes will be included for you. Regarding setting up infoboxes, there are several types of infoboxes, some complicated ones like English Wikipedia has that have parameters configured for WikiBase, some portable infoboxes like Fandom has, and some basic ones that are just wikitables, right-aligned to the page, and which serve most peoples' needs. For the more complicated needs, you should see this FAQ question. For the portable ones like Fandom has, you should see this extension page, and enable the extension in this ManageWiki page on your wiki. For the most basic infoboxes that should serve most wikis' needs, you should really see 's helpful tutorial. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 12:28, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Renaming and what it's about?
Hello, I would like to request a name change on my crime wiki and it can be about crime and anything. Thank you. Hrvcfr (talk) 18:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC) Hrvcfr (talk) 18:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * While you can rename your wiki in Special:ManageWiki on your wiki, I would strongly advise broadening your crime-focused wiki to include something as broad as anything, as that becomes an unclear and vague wiki description per Content Policy. As well, it sort of feels like a back door way to reposition your existing wiki while you're currently topic banned from requesting wikis on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 19:40, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I successfully changed the name. And will change it on Gazetteer. Hrvcfr (talk) 19:51, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's great. The name change is fine, but I just hope you've not modified your wiki's purpose to be about crime or anything, as that is far too vague and would not be approved by a wiki creator. Wikis' approval and creation are subject to the terms of reference (i.e., their stated purpose and scope) on which they were approved. A wiki operating entirely different from its stated approval could run into issues down the road and potentially face a range of remediation actions by a steward. Dmehus (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Fair use policy
I have a wiki about politics and I want to have articles about political parties. Wikipedia justifies uploading the logos/icons of political parties based on fair use. Could I apply the same reasoning?

Example: Non-free media information and use rationale – non-free logo for Socialist Party (France) Description This is the logo for Socialist Party (France).

Source http://www.parti-socialiste.fr/

Article Socialist Party (France)

Portion used The entire logo is used to convey the meaning intended and avoid tarnishing or misrepresenting the intended image.

Low resolution? This is an SVG vector image of a registered trademark or a copyright-protected logo, seal or computer icon. This image should not be rendered any larger than is required for the purposes of identification and/or critical commentary. The default rendering of this image is of a size and resolution sufficient to maintain the quality intended by the company or organization, without being unnecessarily high resolution.

Purpose of use The image is used to identify the organization Socialist Party (France), a subject of public interest. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the organization, assure the readers that they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the organization, and illustrate the organization's intended branding message in a way that words alone could not convey.

Replaceable? Because it is a non-free logo, there is almost certainly no free representation. Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, would tarnish or misrepresent its image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary.

Other information Use of the logo in the article complies with Wikipedia non-free content policy, logo guidelines, and fair use under United States copyright law as described above. Godless Raven (talk) 11:32, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * LGTM&mdash;perfect, or nearly perfect, in fact. I would just add a couple points, namely that many logos may not be eligible for copyright protections if they are too simplistic, though I'm not certain under which countries' copyright law that criterion applies. Also, many, or most, political parties already license their logos to media organizations and other research-based uses (of which your wiki would be the latter) to use their logos per their logo use policies. In terms of a fair use policy, this looks fine to me. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

What happened to the Navboxes?
Ever since that MediaWiki update last night, the collapse theatre on navboxes had stopped working - by that I mean the button has disappeared altogether. (Here’s an example: ) Is there a way it can be fixed? - ManiacACS (talk) 06:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, the sidebar and tab color above the pages is now back to the default color. --Trevor807 (talk) 11:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help with a script on my wiki
I attempt to do a script to easily report vandals on my new wiki but it does not work. My script i tried to install is from the Runescape wiki, and slightly modified it to match my pages. Can someone help me with the script? (Cannot post the link to my wiki because the ****ing captcha does not load) Wikieditor668 (talk) 11:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "(Cannot post the link to my wiki because the ****ing captcha does not load)" lol 2A00:7142:4A:B749:D89C:1B40:7BA2:9390 15:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Captchas won't load
"Your edit includes new external links. To protect the wiki against automated spam, we kindly ask you to solve the following CAPTCHA:"

Yeah, but there's literally no captcha whenever I hit submit, this text pops up, but not the captcha.

This website is defective lmao. 2A00:7142:4A:B749:D89C:1B40:7BA2:9390 15:47, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * hello this issue was already resolved it should work now. Cocopuff2018 (talk) 13:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Fix Template Loops
Hey, Can any of you can fix those template loops on Companyball Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Firstly, to your question, template loops are usually one of the more basic template errors to resolve, and are typically caused by a given page or template calling the same template or page at the current page title, or by a template or page that is called by one of the templates or pages transcluded on that page. Hope that helps.
 * Secondly, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) . Dmehus (talk) 13:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Already did that, didn't work, Fix this now plz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I already try it and it didn't work for me, Plz fix it now.
 * Link TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk) 14:43, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Please keep in mind we're all volunteers here, and here to help. A member of the community should be able to assist you within the next day or two. For faster service, you can ask specific questions in a calm and friendly manner on Discord, which I would encourage you to join. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems that mh:companyballwiki:Template:T is causing the template loops. The source code of that template seems to be its documentation rather than the actual template, so I'm guessing this was a copy-paste mistake. K599 (talk) 20:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So how do i fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Putting Infobox on right
Can somebody put the infobox from Companyball Wiki on the right for me? I tried everything but nothing works, so can somebody do this for me? TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk) 00:00, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Should be done. Naleksuh (talk) 00:03, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox Issues
Hello, I have been trying for days now to move an infobox on the right, but I can't do it at all. I want this infobox template on this page https://nsc.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Contest to match the infobox on this page https://msc.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Contest. I have implanted the same code but the box is bigger and also on the left. Can you please help me with this? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CamDaNer (talk • contribs) 13:08, 30 October 2020‎ (UTC)
 * The template calls for an Infobox styling that doesn't exist in your wikis code pages. To test it out, I set up the style used by Wikipedia on my userpage on the wiki and it looks perfect now. Simply copy/paste that code in your Common.css, or Vector.css if you want it exclusive for one skin (each skin has their own special .css page). Hope this helps!-Amelia (talk) 19:01, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Vote
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have a question for you: should we have a wiki on here like the Wiki Gazetteer on FANDOM? Put your vote in the headings below! And remember to sign your posts with ~. Tali64³ (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes

 * 1) Why not? This would not be a bad idea for someone looking for a specific wiki. --Furricane (talk) 21:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) per  InspecterAbdel (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I strongly support this because we can find more specific wikis.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 21:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) I'm not opposed to this idea, in theory, and I do think that we need to rethink Gazetteer of wikis given that we have ~3,800 current wikis (which is too large for a single page). My main concern, which I expressed in declining the wiki request, was that this may suffer from lack of maintenance and timely updates. As well, by siphoning it away from Meta, we now have yet another wiki we have to somehow promote, so that sort of defeats the purpose of a gazetteer of wikis designed to promote customers' public wikis, doesn't it? Secondarily, I honestly think a better way to go about this is to add additional functionality and data output to the automated list, Special:WikiDiscover. That said, it's a good-faith idea, in theory and if well-maintained, so that is why I am expressing some support, albeit weak. Dmehus (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) I think this will help in finding wikis. Admittedly, there was once a list on Wikia, but we've dropped it. Onmp314 (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There are still two: the Wiki Wiki and the Wiki Gazetteer. Tali64³ (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

No

 * 1)  I don't see the need for an entire wiki like this. We already have a page here on meta, Gazetteer of wikis. And in all honesty, a page on meta will most likely be given more notice than another external wiki that some will never visit. As such I am opposing this idea. While a good thought I don't see the need for it. I mean if you want it, go for you, but I don't think it should be a community wiki at all.  15:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * There are wikis currently on Miraheze, too big to list on one page. An administrator could put a link to it on the main page. Tali64³ (talk) 16:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * We also have Special:WikiDiscover which lists every wiki on Miraheze. 14:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  if there were a lot of people to add entries for wikis with short descriptions that would work for me but right now I think that the Meta gazeteer is enough and is helpful. DeeM28 (talk) 07:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) A wiki for this is unnecessary, Gazetteer of wikis on Meta works fine. If there was a way to automate it with Special:WikiDiscover, I might rethink it, but otherwise this would likely get really outdated long-term. K599 (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) and I would like to note, wiki creations are at the sole discretion of wiki creators and global policy, and I view this as a way to circumvent a decline of mine. Thus, I also recommend a closure of this as not done. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 05:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
I think it's a fair enough idea but there are many ways to approach it and would need lots of maintenance and would probably create some form of conflict -Bayugoon (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

 * 1) I'm currently been slowly working on a similar idea over the past month or two just documenting wikis: the Wikiverse. dibbydib 23:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) As a Miraheze wiki creator, when this wiki truly passes through us for approval (I have recently accidentally approved this wiki sent in by, which due to the ongoing discussion and the incorrect subdomain is currently pending steward review for deletion), it is important for us to know when to approve the wiki and who will be creating it. Therefore, who will be the founding Bureaucrat of the wiki if it passes community discussion?  14:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * I would be the founder. Tali64³ (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * When having community discussions like these, who will be the founder is among what should be discussed. I believe who should be the founder should be among what is discussed here. Thanks! 02:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1) Relisting for another couple of weeks. Dmehus (talk) 05:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Relisting for another several weeks. Dmehus (talk) 11:42, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

A new wiki for the website's community
The Miraheze Community Wiki is a wiki for the community so people can get to know each other and welcome each other. I know Meta does that, but I think we need a wiki for that stuff.

Support

 * 1) I think we need a wiki for this kind of thing InspecterAbdel (talk) 22:44, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) but not per any of the above or below, but because community noticeboard has become a catch-all for technical support questions, community discussions, and really anything. The organization is weak, and we could use a community wiki. I have no objections to it, but the main reason for my oppose  weak support here is because the purpose is somewhat vague and unclear. I appreciate  bringing this for a community discussion, though, and, since this wiki was simultaneously submitted for approval and created already, I think we should probably shift this wiki towards defining a clear purpose and terms of reference for its existence and the parameters by which the local   can be removed (via Community noticeboard) here on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)  Amended. Moved from weak oppose to weak support Dmehus (talk) 15:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I think we should have one since fandom has one. Plus it's subdomain is valuable too. AppleCrunchy (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) I really like to have a community wiki for new users to gather, although we have a Community noticeboard.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 17:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) . No, we don't need such a wiki.  This page ("community noticeboard") is exactly for this kind of thing.  I don't want to have to check both this page and a dedicated wiki to find out what is happening on the wiki farm, nor learn how such a wiki is organized.   04:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Spike. There is already not enough engagement and usage on Meta, so another wiki is really not what we need. We should focus on Meta. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) . We DO NOT need a community wiki is needed at this time. We already have this page, the community noticeboard, and Requests for Permissions, requests for global rights and requests for stewardship. It seems that it would serve the same service as as most of this meta wiki, and I just see no possible usage for this. I also agree with the comments that has made about having to go back and forth between meta and a community wiki. Sorry, it is just not going to work. --Furricane (talk) 15:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping you'll consider amending your !vote, per my comments above, as I really don't think 's goal was for this wiki to replace Meta. The problem with this request is that (a) the wiki shouldn't have been created without a community discussion (not, technically, a requirement, as far as I'm aware, but good practice) and (b) it should've had a clearer purpose, scope, and defined parameters, as we are doing with Dev Wiki and have done with Template Wiki and Miraheze Commons in the past. No community proposals or discussions, or even drafts of such proposals, would've occurred on this wiki. Rather, as I saw it (though vague and unclear), this wiki was meant to be a user collaboration and social connection wiki that would've actually sought to deepen community participation. Participation in this community wiki would've been completely voluntary and not participating would not have meant the user would "miss out" on important community discussions, as I don't think that was ever the intent behind 's good-faith proposal. Dmehus (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  I do not think another wiki is necessary for the community because for me Meta is the wiki for the community. DeeM28 (talk) 07:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  This is unnecessary, Meta already serves essentially the same purpose, and there's not really enough of that kind of "community" activity to need a separate wiki. K599 (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  After reading the first two oppose votes I agree with those users.  We should try to engage the community on Meta and we can be doing community oriented activities here.  Тишина (talk) 17:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 5)  I agree that the noticeboard is enough and if there was a whole wiki about the community it would be under used and it would require moving around instead of just looking at this one page Bayugoon (talk) 19:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Comments

 * I think the subject is not whether we need a community wiki or not, as we already have a community-centric wiki, but whether we need a miraheze-sanctioned community wiki.I think CN is sufficient, but it seems unusual for a topic to be set up for communication purposes, so someone may need to give an example. I found an image on ja.wiktionary.org showing the stroke order of my name, so it might be a good idea to post it, but it takes courage to be the first one. --松•Matsu (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 02:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 01:36, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)