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Vote
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have a question for you: should we have a wiki on here like the Wiki Gazetteer on FANDOM? Put your vote in the headings below! And remember to sign your posts with ~. Tali64³ (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes

 * 1) Why not? This would not be a bad idea for someone looking for a specific wiki. --Furricane (talk) 21:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) per  InspecterAbdel (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I strongly support this because we can find more specific wikis.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 21:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) I'm not opposed to this idea, in theory, and I do think that we need to rethink Gazetteer of wikis given that we have ~3,800 current wikis (which is too large for a single page). My main concern, which I expressed in declining the wiki request, was that this may suffer from lack of maintenance and timely updates. As well, by siphoning it away from Meta, we now have yet another wiki we have to somehow promote, so that sort of defeats the purpose of a gazetteer of wikis designed to promote customers' public wikis, doesn't it? Secondarily, I honestly think a better way to go about this is to add additional functionality and data output to the automated list, Special:WikiDiscover. That said, it's a good-faith idea, in theory and if well-maintained, so that is why I am expressing some support, albeit weak. Dmehus (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) I think this will help in finding wikis. Admittedly, there was once a list on Wikia, but we've dropped it. Onmp314 (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

No

 * 1)  I don't see the need for an entire wiki like this. We already have a page here on meta, Gazetteer of wikis. And in all honesty, a page on meta will most likely be given more notice than another external wiki that some will never visit. As such I am opposing this idea. While a good thought I don't see the need for it. I mean if you want it, go for you, but I don't think it should be a community wiki at all.  15:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * There are wikis currently on Miraheze, too big to list on one page. An administrator could put a link to it on the main page. Tali64³ (talk) 16:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * We also have Special:WikiDiscover which lists every wiki on Miraheze. 14:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  if there were a lot of people to add entries for wikis with short descriptions that would work for me but right now I think that the Meta gazeteer is enough and is helpful. DeeM28 (talk) 07:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) A wiki for this is unnecessary, Gazetteer of wikis on Meta works fine. If there was a way to automate it with Special:WikiDiscover, I might rethink it, but otherwise this would likely get really outdated long-term. K599 (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

 * 1) I'm currently been slowly working on a similar idea over the past month or two just documenting wikis: the Wikiverse. dibbydib 23:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) As a Miraheze wiki creator, when this wiki truly passes through us for approval (I have recently accidentally approved this wiki sent in by, which due to the ongoing discussion and the incorrect subdomain is currently pending steward review for deletion), it is important for us to know when to approve the wiki and who will be creating it. Therefore, who will be the founding Bureaucrat of the wiki if it passes community discussion?  14:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * I would be the founder. Tali64³ (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * When having community discussions like these, who will be the founder is among what should be discussed. I believe who should be the founder should be among what is discussed here. Thanks! 02:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1) Relisting for another couple of weeks. Dmehus (talk) 05:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Relisting for another several weeks. Dmehus (talk) 11:42, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

A new wiki for the website's community
The Miraheze Community Wiki is a wiki for the community so people can get to know each other and welcome each other. I know Meta does that, but I think we need a wiki for that stuff.

Support

 * 1) I think we need a wiki for this kind of thing InspecterAbdel (talk) 22:44, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) but not per any of the above or below, but because community noticeboard has become a catch-all for technical support questions, community discussions, and really anything. The organization is weak, and we could use a community wiki. I have no objections to it, but the main reason for my oppose  weak support here is because the purpose is somewhat vague and unclear. I appreciate  bringing this for a community discussion, though, and, since this wiki was simultaneously submitted for approval and created already, I think we should probably shift this wiki towards defining a clear purpose and terms of reference for its existence and the parameters by which the local   can be removed (via Community noticeboard) here on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)  Amended. Moved from weak oppose to weak support Dmehus (talk) 15:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I think we should have one since fandom has one. Plus it's subdomain is valuable too. AppleCrunchy (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) I really like to have a community wiki for new users to gather, although we have a Community noticeboard.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 17:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) . No, we don't need such a wiki.  This page ("community noticeboard") is exactly for this kind of thing.  I don't want to have to check both this page and a dedicated wiki to find out what is happening on the wiki farm, nor learn how such a wiki is organized.   04:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Spike. There is already not enough engagement and usage on Meta, so another wiki is really not what we need. We should focus on Meta. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) . We DO NOT need a community wiki is needed at this time. We already have this page, the community noticeboard, and Requests for Permissions, requests for global rights and requests for stewardship. It seems that it would serve the same service as as most of this meta wiki, and I just see no possible usage for this. I also agree with the comments that has made about having to go back and forth between meta and a community wiki. Sorry, it is just not going to work. --Furricane (talk) 15:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping you'll consider amending your !vote, per my comments above, as I really don't think 's goal was for this wiki to replace Meta. The problem with this request is that (a) the wiki shouldn't have been created without a community discussion (not, technically, a requirement, as far as I'm aware, but good practice) and (b) it should've had a clearer purpose, scope, and defined parameters, as we are doing with Dev Wiki and have done with Template Wiki and Miraheze Commons in the past. No community proposals or discussions, or even drafts of such proposals, would've occurred on this wiki. Rather, as I saw it (though vague and unclear), this wiki was meant to be a user collaboration and social connection wiki that would've actually sought to deepen community participation. Participation in this community wiki would've been completely voluntary and not participating would not have meant the user would "miss out" on important community discussions, as I don't think that was ever the intent behind 's good-faith proposal. Dmehus (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  I do not think another wiki is necessary for the community because for me Meta is the wiki for the community. DeeM28 (talk) 07:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) This is unnecessary, Meta already serves essentially the same purpose, and there's not really enough of that kind of "community" activity to need a separate wiki. K599 (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Comments

 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 02:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 01:36, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

A community Developers wiki
I have a proposition for the Miraheze community. For a while now I have been debating whether or not to create a developers wiki for Miraheze. Unlike the template wiki, this wiki will include CSS and JS scripts that anyone can import using, it will allow anyone who wants it to use scripts built by the community in their own wikis and/or in their own personal global or local JavaScript or CSS files. After consulting with on Discord, I decided to get the communities feedback and/or support on this idea, therefore what does the Miraheze community think of this idea? 22:53, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Yeah, though I don't think it's required to have a community discussion in this case, since it's going to be a community wiki for shared CSS and JavaScript files, among other things potentially, I thought it would be a good practice to have the discussion, especially if it proposes to use the name "Miraheze." Plus, I think it would be helpful for the community to (a) define the initial scope and purpose and (b) establish the founding bureaucrats for the wiki. From there, the local community can help to establish its local policies and further refine its purpose. In general terms, I support this as a community wiki as I think it is sufficiently different than the Template and Miraheze Bots + Tools wikis. I also think it could be useful at reducing the page load times of community-imported and -maintained user scripts, as opposed to always loading them from English Wikipedia and other wikis. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, some of that is part of my initial thoughts for the reasoning of the wiki. As for using the name Miraheze in it, I think it should be called Miraheze Developers Wiki or something similar. As for bureaucrats of the wiki, any candidate recommendations? And I think a community discussion for this is a good idea. It gives the community a way to give input, and their own unique ideas in it as well. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * As proposer I support this, but also because I know JS and CSS pretty well, and would love to have a wiki like this for the Miraheze community. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * This is a great idea for a new wiki. I think that by doing this, lots of new coding things could be enabled, including possibly global modules and gadgets. Great suggestion. I also have no concerns for this proposal. --Furricane (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, I do believe that a wiki like this could be greatly beneficial in the long run, or at least I hope it can be. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * I support this idea because not everyone can do custom CSS and (or) custom JS. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea for having a central place to import JS and CSS. K599 (talk) 20:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * per my comments above. Dmehus (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Good. Waldo (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Potential rename and/or expanded scope of Dev Wiki
asked me a few days, or perhaps a week, ago if I had posted in this discussion thread about the potential renaming and expanded scope for Dev Wiki yet. Other tasks took priority, but seeing as this thread was due to be archived in the next day or so, I wanted to get this done. So, I'm going to ping those that participated above and those who participated in the discussion on potential name ideas/expanded scope on Discord.

So, the question is...given that the  subdomain implies broader usage by and for developers beyond just CSS and JavaScript scripts,  and I (did I forget anyone, ?) basically toyed around with a number of potential new names and subdomains, the top three of which is identified below:


 * 1) Retain   and expand the scope, or allow the community, via a future community noticeboard discussion to expand the scope at some point in the future;
 * 2) Rename subdomain to , which would be roughly in line with the current purpose and scope, but open to possibilities later (again, the community would retain the right modify the scope via a community noticeboard discussion); or,
 * 3) Rename subdomain to , with a narrow scope; limits us in the future, but entirely accurate; it's not too bad, as we could easily create a separate dev later, though we should reserve that subdomain in the blacklist)

Since didn't participate in the Discord discussion and since this doesn't require any advanced rights to close, I nominate him to assess the consensus and close this discussion in a week or two. --Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of RhinosF1 as closer
, please indicate if you would be willing to close this discussion after 1-2 weeks (depending on the weather-related impacts to U.S. eastern seaboard residents).

Additionally, can I get a seconder to second this nomination? (Thought we could probably safely skip a full vote on nominating an uninvolved closer.)


 * Accepted:  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominated closer)
 * Moved: Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominator)
 * Seconded: 02:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 13:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Voting and Vote Tabulation Instructions
You are encouraged to express first and second choices in your !vote. Please do so by indicating, in your !vote for each proposal, whether it is your first or second choice. If no proposal achieves more than 50% of the valid !votes cast, the proposal with the least number of first choice !votes will be dropped, and those users' second choices will then be allocated accordingly, and the results retabulated in a second count.

Support

 * 1)   02:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 2)  as first choice, since the community remains overall authority over this wiki in terms of its   removal (as may be required) and in terms of redefining, or broadening, its scope. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  I think there is no need to rename. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) Looks nice, and is easy to understand. K599 (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I like this idea as well, but it feels like it has other non-computer science-related use cases (i.e., for an archival- or museum-type wiki). Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I also liked 's idea, as it is the most specific and clearly defines this wiki's current purpose, but, at the same time, it really does restrict a future broadening of this wiki's scope to include a broader array of wiki developer resources, for which the community retains the absolute authority to redefine this wiki's purpose via community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

I can embed YT videos: how about Vimeo, niconico, and others?
Such as here. Thanks :) DMBFFF (talk) 05:59, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The YouTube extension has tags to embed niconico videos, just like tags. For other video services, you can enable mw:Extension:Widgets and copy the corresponding widget from this website. Note that some video services might not work if they aren't on the CSP whitelist, so you would have to open a phabricator task to add those sites. K599 (talk) 18:13, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I copied from here, to make this, and it still doesn't work for Vimeo, though your suggestion for niconico does. DMBFFF (talk) 06:52, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems like you didn't call the Vimeo widget correctly in that page, the correct syntax would be . You should also undo this edit, as the previous revision is the correct one. Finally, I looked at Miraheze's CSP whitelist, and they don't have *.vimeo.com on there, so you would need to open a phabricator task to add *.vimeo.com to the CSP whitelist. K599 (talk) 16:54, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for assisting here, and for your observation that   is not in the CSP whitelist. So, I've created the task on Phabricator proactively, and its status can be tracked at T6129. Dmehus (talk) 17:08, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, thank you for assisting me, and you too. May both of you be requited for your help. :)    DMBFFF (talk) 01:51, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * So what do I do now? DMBFFF (talk) 07:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I might suggest following 's advice earlier in this discussion, now that Phabricator ticket #T6129 has been resolved by and   has been added to the Content Security Policy (CSP) whitelist. Dmehus (talk) 16:19, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought I did. Thanks for whitelisting Vimeo; and something seems embedded in my sandbox, but nothing I can seem to play, nor is the Vimeo video "private." DMBFFF (talk) 06:49, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, it's somewhat working. This https://vimeo.com/groups/173360/videos/13796779 doesn't work, but this https://vimeo.com/66454459 does, though I've yet to be able to alter height and width in mh:fictionandfictionalsettingswiki:User:DMBFFF/Sandbox. DMBFFF (talk) 08:01, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You should be able to adjust the height and width with . K599 (talk) 20:54, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

May we create the mirror site of mediawiki.org?
As everyone knows, users in China cannot visit some site of Wikimedia, such as zh.wikipedia.org or mediawiki.org (It works at a few time of July)

Wikipedia has lots of mirror site in China. For example the WanWeiBaiKe.

Now mediawiki.org does not work in China. And it has lots of helps about using Mediawiki, especially extensions and versions. It is important.

Then I have a thinking: may we create the mirror site of mediawiki.org like wikipedia?

Or, create some infowikis. Such as MediawikiExtensionWiki, MediawikiHelpingWiki, MediawikiVersionsWiki, and so on.

I do not have enough power .It is only throw away a brick in order to get a gem.

--开炸弹车 (talk) 03:46, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Would this result in all of Miraheze becoming inaccessible in China too?  16:54, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * raises a good philosophical question. As I understand it, users from China already have to request either a local or global IP block exemption on Miraheze, so this wouldn't be my primary argument against this. My main concern would be both the timeliness and accuracy of keeping the forked MediaWiki.org website up to date, to be honest. It's a good-faith idea, and I can't say I'd be opposed, per se, but I'd want to see an exhaustive and thorough proposal, to be sure. Dmehus (talk) 18:13, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, some wikis of Miraheze are inaccessible. For exameple the [//uncyclopedia.miraheze.org/ uncyclopedia]. And unnews is all right. So I think do not worry about all of Miraheze becoming inaccessible. With all due respect, Miraheze permit obscene(Esu) Wiki is more dangerous than this. 开炸弹车 (talk) 02:02, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The "esu" wiki(s) you cited were indeed shut down, deleted, and are now kaput by stewards. As a wiki creator, I take a critical eye to proposed new Chinese language wikis with vague or unclear descriptions, and routinely decline them as such. Dmehus (talk) 02:33, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It is sure. I have got some information about the mirror site of zhwikipedia. They use upload.wikimedia.org (it is not inaccessible now) to see media file. And we can also use leading-out and leading-in. Most of wiki uses reverse proxy开炸弹车 (talk) 03:12, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

I requests one wiki about mediawiki extensions.开炸弹车 (talk) 07:27, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Template error
Hello,

I have a wiki, a Hungarian wiki. I want everything to work. But it's not so. I made the mineral infobox (Ásvány infobox). And writes this: Warning: This page calls Sablon:Ásvány infobox which causes a template loop (an infinite recursive call). But why? My wiki is here Thank you so much :) - Lois (talk) 13:31, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for providing a link to your wiki. Only, I don't have permission to even read its pages!
 * When you get that error message, it is usually telling the truth. The last person I helped with this had an example on the template of how to call it.  And, for illustration, the example called it (called itself)!  Which would call itself, which would call itself, etc.  Please look to see if you are doing this too.   16:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


 * This was discussed in this archive. In  another template problem, a template included itself in a category meant only for pages that called it.   16:53, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Okay, I read it, I understood. I exported the infobox to my wiki. Now the error: "Script error: There is no infobox module". But why? What's not good? I don't understand... - Lois (talk) 14:02, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Templates are easy, all they do is repeat themselves in any page that calls them like this, although they can also make substitutions and do simple computing. Modules are actual programs that can do more complicated computing, I've never used them.  However, as we say in FAQ, if you import something from Wikipedia, you must import the entire thing.  That's all I know.  I still don't have permission to read the template in question and point to where you are calling a module.   15:37, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I have limited experience with Lua modules as well, but it sounds like you may need to import the Lua module Module:Infobox. Can you see if that's imported to your wiki? If it is, check for a configuration subpage. The configuration is usually fairly self-explanatory. Dmehus (talk) 18:12, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, I imported the Module:Infobox. But not good. Error:"Script error: the image function does not exist". What is the error? My wiki is hereI would be so happy if someone would help me :) - Lois (talk) 17:08, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I need help adding twinkle to my wiki
I added some interface pages, but I don't see any twinkle gadgets in there. I might choose Dmehus or Universal Omega to help me if I have many issues, and I'll make them both interface admins. AppleCrunchy (talk) 18:23, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I thank you very much for the kind words and offer, and hope you won't mind, but I will likely have to ever so politely decline your most generous invitation, as installing Twinkle is a lot of work. Installing the actual gadget files is not too complicated, but you have to de-Wikipedia-ify all of the gadget code, mainly through updating the templates that it calls and your namespaces and all of that. Plus, you have to import all the templates and modules. So, in short, it's probably the most complicated gadget to install, and I would note that even Wikimedia's Meta Wiki does not have Twinkle (likely for this reason). Dmehus (talk) 18:33, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I want a crat to implement the advanced search option, I need to search things only in the MediaWiki namespace AppleCrunchy (talk) 18:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "advanced search option"...in Twinkle? Dmehus (talk) 18:51, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a MediaWiki extension AppleCrunchy (talk) 18:54, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. I was misunderstanding as we were discussing the Twinkle gadget in this thread. Do we have that extension installed on Miraheze? If so, you can enable it in Special:ManageWiki/extensions on your wiki. If not, you'll need to request it using the feature request form on Phabricator and our security reviewers and system administrators will review it for both security and compatibility, among other things. You can sign in to Phabricator using the MediaWiki sign-in, and your accounts will be linked. Dmehus (talk) 20:51, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Using a different domain name as a URL
Hi, I have a custom domain name (www.callipedia.org) purchased; I wanted to know if there is a way to use it or have it redirected to my wiki on Miraheze, thanks.--Callipedia (talk) 13:26, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read Custom domains. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 14:06, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Not related to your custom domain request for which provided you with the informational page, but I have also made your wiki's address into a MirahezeMagic interwiki wikilink. You can link to any Miraheze customer wiki using  . It works currently on all pages, but does not yet work in log summaries and edit summaries. That is on my list of Phabricator feature requests to file. Dmehus (talk) 14:43, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--Callipedia (talk) 17:06, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem! :) Dmehus (talk) 17:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Special:Nuke not working for imported pages
I noticed that the Special:Nuke feature does not work for pages imported via the Special:Import feature.

There is a thread here about this along with someone offering a fix; I was wondering if it is possible to implement this fix on Miraheze wikis, thanks. (link) --Callipedia (talk) 17:09, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe this would likely be an upstream issue that would have to be resolved in MediaWiki, so would likely require a Wikimedia Phabricator feature request. Dmehus (talk) 17:49, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Looking at the page you linked to, it seems like this is a manual patch of the Nuke extension, which can be done, but is often not done as it would require cherry-picking the code with every Wikimedia update that filters downstream to us, but I will ping to this thread to offer his opinion. In the meantime, you can file a Phabricator task on Miraheze Phabricator under the MediaWiki project and Maintenance workboard to list all the pages you require deleting. Dmehus (talk) 17:53, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I can confirm that we won't accept any modifications to Nuke other than those coming from the upstream extension. If this hack that you have linked us to works, I'd be surprised that the WMF haven't implemented it themselves. As Dmehus said, please feel free to open a task and a sysadmin will run a script to remove the pages. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:58, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I did that.--Callipedia (talk) 23:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Adding a template to a large number of pages
Hi, I'd like to know if there's a way to add a template to a set of pages, instead of manually having to add it individually, thanks.--Callipedia (talk) 02:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

"429 Too Many Requests"
When I try using Miraheze on my computer I’m constantly getting the error message I stated in the title. If I manage to get past the error, the page I pulled up doesn’t fully load most of the time. Is there anything I can do to fix this? —DeciduousWater534 (talk) 22:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I, too, am getting these error messages, so this suggests it isn't a problem with only me or only you. I suspect there is an issue with either (a) Varnish or (b) the cache proxies (Cp1&mdash;Cp9). I will ping to this thread; he may or may not see this notification, but he would be the one that would know for certain what the issue is. Dmehus (talk) 23:06, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Just clarifying something, we don't have 9 cache proxies, only cp3, cp6, cp7 , cp9 are in the, the rest have been decommissioned and were only in use previously. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:30, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought you might say something, but yeah, I knew that, I was just listing the cache proxies (whether past or present) from the lowest numbered one to the highest numbered one. Dmehus (talk) 13:35, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

In other languages
Hello,

How do I add other languages to my wiki? (in the menu on the right?)(Add links, add interlanguage links). Thank you :) - Lois (talk) 09:22, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. You can enable UniversalLanguageSelector and Translate via Special:ManageWiki/extensions :) Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 10:29, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Thanks your answer. Yes, I know that. It works. I'm sorry, I wrote my question wrong. So on the left is a menu item: In other languages, Add links. When does it work? Need to create an English or other language wiki too? (The language of my wiki is Hungarian) :) - Lois (talk) 12:17, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Is your hope the same as the Sidebar of Wikipedia? If true, as far as I know, it only give urls to jump. -开炸弹车 (talk) 00:52, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Those are added from interlanguage links to other separate wikis. You'd need an interwiki admin to add the interlanguage prefixes for your wiki. Then you'd add something like Title in English to the respective page. K599 (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * All you need is that–do not forget to put on your pages a following code, but remember to wrap the tags in less than and greater than  signs, which cannot be used for illustrative purposes as they appear to be incompatible with the   tags) Inserted text added by Dmehus (talk) 13:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC):
 * That way you prepare the page for translation. After saving, click on "translate this page" to indicate to translators that this page is available for translation.
 * Then a translator creates additional pages like PageName/bg, where /bg or /he be the two letters of language code. Plus, translated pages would be found in subcategories of YourCategory with suffix /bg or /he. Helper (talk) 13:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That way you prepare the page for translation. After saving, click on "translate this page" to indicate to translators that this page is available for translation.
 * Then a translator creates additional pages like PageName/bg, where /bg or /he be the two letters of language code. Plus, translated pages would be found in subcategories of YourCategory with suffix /bg or /he. Helper (talk) 13:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That way you prepare the page for translation. After saving, click on "translate this page" to indicate to translators that this page is available for translation.
 * Then a translator creates additional pages like PageName/bg, where /bg or /he be the two letters of language code. Plus, translated pages would be found in subcategories of YourCategory with suffix /bg or /he. Helper (talk) 13:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Then a translator creates additional pages like PageName/bg, where /bg or /he be the two letters of language code. Plus, translated pages would be found in subcategories of YourCategory with suffix /bg or /he. Helper (talk) 13:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Why Special:import doesnot work?
I use Special:Export to export some pages of Wikipedia, then import it in Special:import. But it does not work and notice "Expected tag, got html". Why? -开炸弹车 (talk) 12:45, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Duplicate search results for redirects?
If I start to type a few characters in the search box, if a redirect matches the title of an article and also matches the title of a redirect to that same article, it will show the target page twice as a suggestion. Daily5 (talk) 13:00, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This is actually by design, and is one of the reasons to consider deleting redirects, particularly extraneous redirects that very closely match the actual title of an article, to allow the MediaWiki search engine to do its job more effectively by removing the duplicate title matches. It is actually the first reason for deleting redirects on English Wikipedia, as seen here. Note that there about ten reasons for potentially deleting redirects, there about as many different reasons for potentially keeping them. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:12, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the answer! (wow that was quick) Daily5 (talk) 06:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 13:47, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Revocation of FireBarrier101's Wikicreator

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Closed as procedural irregularity. Please provide examples of wikis created against the Content Policy to Stewards + an attempt to educate regarding the Content Policy after an inappropriate creation has taken place. John (talk) 09:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I do not trust him to be able to enforce content policy when approving wiki requests (see his comments on Unfavorable Fandoms Wikis Wiki). Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 09:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * See also this wiki he created. https://thestarin.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page, which he created for his suspected friend, and more than likely knew the wiki would have content policy violations per this https://unfavorablefandomwikis.miraheze.org/wiki/Topic:Vu7pgdemdjfpqsb2 Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 09:25, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  as nom Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 09:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Abstain

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

Dark Mode
Hi, I use the Dark Mode extension, but whenever I change the page, it goes back to the default. Anything I can do? Already looked up the extension page (didn't find anything there), looked up the talk page (someone already forked the extension because of this issue) and couldn't go any further. I want to make it available as a cookie (for me, but also everyone else). Appreciate any help! Godless Raven (talk) 09:40, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, since nobody answered so far, let me try phabricator instead. Godless Raven (talk) 11:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for missing your post. The current DarkMode is not set up to persist on each page, though I believe there is some CSS code you can add to MediaWiki:Common.css in order to fix this. Perhaps the developer, has an idea. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 11:58, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

The Pioneer has steward rights revoked?
Hi everybody. I've came back after a long period of hiatus. On the Stewards page, it says that The Pioneer is a former steward. I nominated him for steward last year; I don't understand why his rights were revoked. I don't think that his rights was revoked due to inactivity, as he is moderately active on Meta and other wikis, nor do I believe that he has done any wrong thing. Can you give me any pages or RfCs that passes to revoke the right of a steward? That would be very much appreciated. OwenFung87 09:57, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry I have made this post, I know where the links are. But may I ask can I nominate somebody for stewardship during my sanctions of RfCs? OwenFung87 10:13, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * While a revocation request was initiated regarding The Pioneer, he resigned his rights, as he's just not active on Miraheze anymore. He's issued a statement in his resignation. As to your topic ban, I don't believe nominating someone for steward is covered by your topic ban, but you really should not be nominating someone unless you've talked to them, and received their consent to do so, first. If you have someone in mind, you can e-mail me, and I'll let you know if they might be a good fit to approach them. Dmehus (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * His only recent edits in September were so that he could resign so I do not think someone can call this "moderately active". And here you will find the policy that says a steward can be revoked by the community which is very normal. DeeM28 (talk) 07:25, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I need help to disable Universallanguageselector extension
I have enabled Universallanguageselector extension. Now I cannot disable it. Kindly advice .--Emad4ald (talk) 08:45, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * To manage the extensions on your wiki, you have to go to the Special:ManageWiki/extensions page, a link to which should be in the wiki's left sidebar. Once there, you should see the list of extensions, which starts with 3D, AddThis, and HTML Meta and Title. Scroll down the alphabetical list until you reach the Universal Langauge Selector extension, or use CTRL+F to search the page for it. Assuming that it's enabled, it will have a blue checkbox, which you should click to disable. Once you have disabled it, to confirm your modification you return to the top of the page, click on the "Submit" tab, enter your reason for making the modification, and click the blue Submit button. After that, the extension should be disabled. - CoolieCoolster (talk) 02:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * @CoolieCoolster: I did this before . No response; I think it is a bug. I have reported this issue to https://phabricator.miraheze.org/. Thanks Emad4ald (talk) 07:41, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

How to enable STL file uploads
To add to my wiki's user experience, I'm looking into adding support for 3D model viewing using the 3D extension. To use it I need to be able to upload STL files, which seems to be disabled by default. Is there a way I can enable STL file uploads on my wiki or request that the change be made? Thanks, - CoolieCoolster (talk) 14:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This should be possible. I would think, since it's technical-related, this is within system administrators' purview, and you should thus file a Phabricator task to request the  file extension be enabled on your wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:22, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.35
The release of MediaWiki 1.35 has now been finalized. So, when can we start upgrading Miraheze wikis to MediaWiki 1.35? GTrang (talk) 19:18, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, we will work on it as soon as we can. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 19:22, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Editing sidebar
Hello,

Sorry for the error. How do I edit the side menu in my wiki? How to create new menus? Because I typed a menu but didn’t accept it, because there was an error in it: The requested page title contains invalid characters: "%C3". Thanks :) - Lois (talk) 16:03, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe the sidebar likely has acceptable character limitations, likely due to the way in which the MediaWiki regex is followed. If you have a look at MediaWiki:Sidebar, you can follow that syntax. For translations of interface messages, though, you should use translatewiki.net, the updates for which are piped in to to Miraheze (presumably with a modest time lag/delay). If you are wanting to translate the links to specific pages linked in your sidebar, you can create a MediaWiki namespace interface page titled exactly as the full page name (including namespace) of the page being translated followed by the backslash and the applicable language to which you wish to translate that link. In the page content, you specify the name of that page in that language. For example, if I wanted to translate the Community noticeboard link into Swedish in the sidebar, I would format it as . In the page content, I would specify the Swedish translation of that page name. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 16:23, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you so much for your exhaustive help, this little description helped a lot :) Then tomorrow I will have time to edit and learn wiki editing. I will honestly say that it's a very good time for me to be here and to edit or to learn. :) - Lois (talk) 16:42, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Don't hesitate to follow up with any related questions to this thread, if within the next week or two; otherwise, you can always start a new thread. :) Dmehus (talk) 16:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Some links to study: (Helper (talk) 07:50, 29 September 2020 (UTC))
 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sidebar
 * MediaWiki:Sidebar
 * MediaWiki:Mainpage
 * MediaWiki:Mainpage/en where /en is language code of user interface.

I can’t upload images
I tried to update images on Different History Wiki, but I only get an error message every time. Trevor807 (talk) 18:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * First, please note that I have procedurally moved your question from stewards' noticeboard to this noticeboard, where it is now in scope. Second, can you give us exactly what error message you receiving? Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 18:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

How do you edit the top bar of wikis?
You know, the bar that contains your username and preferences? Thank u, next, Eiji (talk) 19:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a good question and, though I'm not sure this can be done by modifying the interface messages, it may be possible with your wiki's common.css file. I would think that this would be a good question for either of . Dmehus (talk) 20:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This line is called a portlet, and the items in it are simply links to other pages. You can indeed affect its appearance, including making some items invisible, by edits to MediaWiki:common.css (for all users) or to User:EijiZeBoi/common.css (for yourself only).  You can do more complicated things, such as rearrange them or insert code, by editing the corresponding common.js file.  I do a little of this with jQuery here on Meta in my User:Spike/common.js.  In Firefox, you can use Tools / Inspector to find out what each element's ID is.   22:08 27-Sep-2020

Will be preparing for upgrade to 1.35?
Soon. 180.191.142.223 12:09, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 180.191.142.223 Yes, absolutely, this is one of the top priorities for system administrators, and the upgrade is likely to occur in the next one to three weeks. Dmehus (talk) 14:28, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Help required: Cargo extension recurring events (Template:Event Infobox)

 * Wikis:
 * magic.miraheze.org
 * testcargo.miraheze.org

Hello guys. After testing Extension:JsCalendar and finding several things we are not happy with, we decided to go on learning Cargo, which could be used for storing many variety things, included events, and Cargo Calendar wins for truly multi-language support and easy way collecting information from pages by posting Infoboxes and easy editing with PageForms. We spent a several days to learn and experimenting with Cargo on testcargo.miraheze.org and our magic.miraheze.org wikis. The building tables is learned. There are many examples we found on the Internet. But we stuck with creating a Calendar with recurring events, and no examples found, except some hints:
 * Extension talk:Cargo/Archive August to October 2019#Recurring Event Syntax
 * Extension talk:Cargo/Archive March to April 2020

Still not clear how to make it working. Could somebody kindly help us out by posting a working template? The source, served as an example to build a working one-time events Calendar was https://icannwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:Event. --Helper (talk) 21:19, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

How to make interwiki link?
like gomdoli.miraheze.org. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 23:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for posting this question on the correct noticeboard. There are two types of interwiki links, those which use prefixes from the interwiki table on a given wiki and MirahezeMagic interwiki wikilinks, which are a sort of pseudo-interwiki wikilink for Miraheze wikis. The former will work on pages and in edit summaries and log actions, while the latter will currently only work on pages. Each wiki has a Special:Interwiki interwiki table that is inclusive of both global and local interwiki tables. Any local interwiki prefixes override the global prefixes. Any interwiki administrator can add interwiki prefixes to any wiki's local interwiki table, except the global interwiki table on Meta. Other than AllTheTropes wiki, it is usually not necessary to add Miraheze customer wikis to the global interwiki table, notably because it would get unwieldy in a short hurry. So, with that in mind, what is that you would like to do? If you just want to link to your wiki, you would use a MirahezeMagic interwiki wikilink, like . Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If you would like to add interwiki prefixes to your wiki's interwiki table, you follow the example set by Community noticeboard/Archive 12 in starting a new thread on community noticeboard. I should also mention that it is possible to become a local interwiki administrator on your wiki. Currently, requirements are that you must hold  rights on the local wiki and, for larger wikis, show some evidence of support for you holding that position. Simply start a local election or selection page on your local wiki, then go to stewards' noticeboard, linking to your local wiki's election page, and a steward will grant you local interwiki administrator rights on your wiki. Hope this also helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:49, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Some links to study:
 * Help:Interwiki linking
 * Extension:Interwiki
 * Extension:InterwikiMap
 * Manual:Interwiki table -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helper (talk • contribs) 23:56, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

I want to change URL on my wiki
How to change "Entry point URLs"(on Special:Version)? to Where can I request this?
 * NOTE: mh:Gomdoli:

Thanks, Gomdoli4696 (talk) 02:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't believe these access URLs can be set on a wiki-specific basis, as those files refer to the relevant MediaWiki  configuration files on the web server. Thus,   doesn't exist locally on the server. Potentially, it could exist as an empty folder, with a 301 web redirect to , but to what end? I'll ping system administrator  to this thread to offer a second opinion, but I'm going to (somewhat) BOLDly say this ❌ for technical reasons. Dmehus (talk) 13:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

89AnimeChampMaster couldn't sign in
I've heard that 89AnimeChampMaster is having trouble with logging in. He has tried may times to log in but he has never actually gotten to logging in. Is there some way for a Miraheze staff member to email 89AnimeChampMaster about his login issues? - DeltaRuneFan2001 (talk) 03:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Please have e-mail   with any technical issues he may be having with being unable to login, and a Miraheze system administrator, after first determining the error he is receiving, will help him appropriately. It could range from a client-side issue whereby 89AnimeChampMaster just needs to delete his Miraheze web browser cookies and browsing history to a forgotten password issue whereby 89AnimeChampMaster simply needs to have a new password sent to his registered e-mail address to something server-side (i.e., potentially caught up as collateral in a global IP rangeblock requiring a global IP block exemption, for which he'd be referred to  ). But, without the exact error, it's difficult to assist, particularly when said user is not here. Dmehus (talk) 13:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Page with usage of tag "math" is not displayed correctly
Hi, I have several pages with use of  e.g. this page. I tried several browsers, but not of them displayed the page correctly. What happened? Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 06:39, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Probably related to T6146. K599 (talk) 19:18, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

ParserFunctions
Do you know how to enable StringFunctions? They don't work. Cozy Glow (talk) 07:44, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It works on our wiki, at least that:
 * If lower case is needed, use lc: function to control output:
 * → one
 * — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helper (talk • contribs) 12:40, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * But these functions  don't work. Cozy Glow (talk) 15:20, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * have you enabled it in Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-edit of your wiki (Enable string function functionality ($wgPFEnableStringFunctions))?. Hispano76 (talk) 18:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I have fully forgotten to do this. Thank you for reminding. Cozy Glow (talk) 19:00, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

JsCalendar not on list of installed extensions
is missing on Miraheze Extensions

By the way, Extension:Calendar-Wikivoyage, which is installed on Miraheze, is missing on Mediawiki Calendars. Helper (talk) 12:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Firstly, as an organizational and formatting matter, could you format new threads on community noticeboard with a concise, several word summary of your request, and then state your full question in the body of your thread? That is, please do not begin your question in the section header and conclude your question in the first or second line of the body, as it makes for difficult reading by others. Second, while not essential, please consider using wikilinks and interwiki wikilinks as an alternative to external links. Finally, regarding your question, please note that the Extensions page is not, and may never be, an exhaustive list of all extensions enabled on Miraheze. For the complete list, please see this Miraheze GitHub repository (note this will change to the  tree when Miraheze upgrades to MediaWiki 1.35). You, or anyone, is most welcome to add additional approved extensions from that repository to the Extensions page, but please make sure to use Special:MyLanguage and   tags where and when appropriate, and, of course, double-check your work for typographical and grammatical errors. Dmehus (talk) 13:15, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

How do I create new wikis?
Please tell me how to create a new wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by The-D*vil (talk • contribs) 17:51, 29 September 2020‎
 * Regular users may not directly create wikis, they can request them and they will be approved or declined by a wiki creator. Please also remember to sign your post using 4 tildes ( ~ ) Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:55, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Recent Changes
In Ain't It Funny?, I no longer show up in Recent Changes but everyone else can due to an error than one of the admins have put. Can you please help me fix it? ItMeansNothing (talk) 18:52, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I have moved this question to this noticeboard from stewards' noticeboard, where it is now in scope. Someone will answer your question shortly, but will likely need more detail in terms of the problem. Can you articulate exactly what the issue is? It could be anything at this point. Dmehus (talk) 19:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Copyright Violations
Photos play important part on my wiki(s). Album covers, book covers, movie posters, photos of people and events are just few examples of media files I plan to include on my wiki(s). I know it's important to ask for permission when posting copyrighted content but, in my case, it would be very long and tedious process to ask copyright holder's permission for each photo I post. However, I'm pretty sure my usage of media files would fall under fair use but I'm not sure if a fair use law is applicable on Miraheze. For the record, I don't need to post high resolution photos, I am perfectly fine with posting smaller resolution photos (practice pretty common on Wikipedia when it comes to copyrighted content). But, it's important for me to be able to post (sometimes copyrighted) photos for illustrative, educational and referential purposes. Otherwise, my wiki(s) wouldn't be complete. So, Miraheze guys, do you think I could get permission to post copyrighted photos under the fair use rule on my wiki(s) without infringing on Miraheze's terms of use? Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 20:27, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a good question, and prudent of you to ask this question, but in answer to your question, yes, I think that it is absolutely in keeping with fair use and fair dealing laws in your country. As Miraheze just hosts the wiki, the applicable fair use/fair dealing laws are applicable to the wiki owner(s), as I understand it. So, you should be fine. That being said, if a rights owner complained that your use was not in keeping with fair use/fair dealing (i.e., not being used in a minimal) way, we would simply remove the offending content, but would never shut down a wiki for a single or even a few copyright complaints. As a general rule, I would recommend limiting the number of copyrighted images to one per unique rights owner on a given page on your wiki. You should also establish a local policy governing Fair Use or Fair Dealing, too. Dmehus (talk) 20:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC)