User talk:Agent Isai/Archive 3

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Account rename request update
@Agent Isai I requested an account rename and haven’t seen any progress, I apologize if this seems like I’m rushing you on it and unnecessarily pinging you for an answer to the request that is still within processing. Thanks Paramount1106 (talk) 03:46, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Will content policy RfCs affect wikis I run
Hi Agent, I was just wondering if any of the RfCs for Content Policy will affect any of the wikis that I run, particularly ones regarding the scope, as I like to include as much relevant content within wikis as possible while keeping it on topic to a certain degree. (e.g. my Donkey Kong wiki also allows for related franchises like Banjo and Conker & I believe that was stated in the Special:RequestWiki). Then there's the Mario titles from Square Enix and Sega on their respective wikis. Bawitdaba (talk) 10:22, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * There's not really anything that changes if the RfC is successful regarding the scope except that it can't be completely and radically changed from the one that was requested without Steward approval. There's no strict scope requirements or anything like that, so you should be fine if that's what you're worried about. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 11:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok this is understandable -- thank you for explaining to me :) Bawitdaba (talk) 11:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

A user adding false information on the CLG Wiki
Since blocking privileges for admins on said wiki has been disabled, as well as inactivity on the Discord server where Hibiscus and my reports are issued, I want to direct this report to your talk page:

There is a user on the wiki named ChildishDadFanatic2000 who is a sockpuppet of AngryGrandpaFan2001. He has continuously inserted false information into the Mohawk Productions page. Also from HibiscusCrown20 on the Discord server, she reported his edit "contain false information regarding the logo's lifespan (both edits have changed it to September 1, 1991 when it's actually been in use since March 14, 1994) and claim the company worked on a series called "Childish Dad", which is actually a series of GoAnimate/Vyond videos that Mohawk Productions has zero involvement in, and both accounts have the name "Jeffrey" in the Real name field on their social profile". He has also repeatedly edit warred on that and a few other articles. Camenati (talk) 19:55, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Uploadtext
By default, MediaWiki:Uploadtext has in it, although not all wikis use that template, so was wondering if can be changed to like Note:. Bawitdaba (talk) 21:48, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for catching that, I'll make a PR to change that. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 23:15, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Also, I asked about fair dealing to Reception123 & am hoping it won't drastically affect the wikis that I run. I remember I already added U.S. fair use templates on the wikis, but if it helps, I manually added the notice into wikis I run, as most I've already customized the MediaWiki:Uploadtext (e.g. Sega Wiki, as shown in the link here). Bawitdaba (talk) 23:30, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

About the wiki I'm planning
Previously I made a request to open the Programas Brilhantes da TV Brasileira, a wiki which will feature only well-received Brazilian TV shows from my country Brazil, due to the closure of Best Shows & Episodes Wiki and Qualitipedia as a whole, but was rejected, friends of mine wants the wiki be open and edit there, given the Brazilian television has a lot of well-received shows and the wiki will not have any relation with the now-defunct Qualitipedia, since it is separated MariaJúlia1718 (talk) 20:10, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * That sounds like a fork of Best Shows & Episodes Wiki, which is not allowed by the Content Policy (Agent correct me if this is wrong). Marxo Grouch (talk) 22:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It won't be a rip-off of the now-defunct BS&EW, since it won't include shows from other countries, to avoid to be a complete rip-off from the already mentioned wiki, and also the wiki will be apolitical, with no mention of SJWs MariaJúlia1718 (talk) 11:03, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Please lock this RfC

 * Requests for Comment/Allowing blog posts to be made here

This was an RfC created back in July that you closed on the day it was created, yet when I revisited it I noticed that despite being closed the RfC is still editable. Can you please fix this? Marxo Grouch (talk) 13:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * We generally don't protect pages unless disruption occurs, that includes all Requests for Comment. If someone edits the page, we'll ask them not to and if they repeatedly don't listen, we block them. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 13:50, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

The New Reception Wiki
Why is this wiki closed? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 03:09, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, I didn't realise it had been closed by a steward, but why didn't it appear on the logs, why was I allowed to reopen it, and why was it closed? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 03:11, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

LovingHaydeL (talk) 17:11, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) You don't have any logs that say recent changes.
 * 2) Dunno, but it is now locked.
 * 3) to quote Reception123: "Vast majority of content is direct fork from other wikis which is not allowed by the Content Policy. The RfC in favor of allowing such a practice for QP wikis was not successful."
 * Well I was going to remove the imported pages. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 00:21, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ok LovingHaydeL (talk) 15:53, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

So reception wikis are now banned for "Miraheze does not host wikis with the sole purpose to spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumors against a person or group of people."
And requesting one will be declined. So they are fully banned off of the site, this includes CGW, AMW, TTV, and many others Nidoking (talk) 16:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Yet Terrible SML Videos is allowed, and that wiki also criticizes user's videos Nidoking (talk) 16:48, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This is false. Reception wikis are not banned. The type of reception wiki you requested is banned. The Goose Named Zeus  (talk|contribs|accounts|uploads|email) 17:06, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Then explain why Terrible SML Videos and Trashy Vyond Videos are allowed, when those wikis also criticizes user's videos. Nidoking (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * So? Will the wikis be removed or not? Considering I made a statement in the wiki request if it gets declined those 2 wikis may get closed for having similar content in it (In which criticizes user's videos) Nidoking (talk) 22:59, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Badminton
Your profile says you play badminton. I rarely hear of it here in America, though it is present on Mario & Sonic Olympics 2012 (London) and 2016 (Rio) games (i played the 3DS ones in particular). have you played badminton on the Olympic-sponsored Mario & Sonic titles?

(sorry if this sounded random -- I realized badminton was on those olympic titles & it reminded me of your profile for some reason) Bawitdaba (talk) 02:57, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I have not sadly. I've always only owned 'Mario and Sonic at the Winter Olympic Games' but never the standard, normal summer Olympics edition of the game neither on the DS nor the Wii. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I have a question
Do you like Dhar Mann's content? And you don't want me to criticize it? Nidoking (talk) 12:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I wasn't able to post this yesterday but I will get to the bottom of your issue here now. We've covered it on discord at length but I will summarize, and it is up to you to take it or leave it and preferably not take it personally. But I can't stop you if you do I suppose.
 * This has nothing to do with all reception wikis being topic banned, and it is absolutely disingenuous to assert that Agent is personally trying to protect Dhar Mann by rejecting the request. It would be rejected for the same reason a wiki would be rejected about any living person: Miraheze as a platform, as per Content Policy wants to avoid at all costs having wikis which direct negative attention to individual people by scope. Just because videos on wikis like 'Vyond Videos' were made by people doesn't mean that the wiki has a topic specifically addressed to that person, it's just a platform. Your request specifically singles out Dhar Mann and it is absurdly easy for that to extend to unacceptably bashing him via a wiki on the service. This wouldn't be accepted at any time no matter who you name as a person.
 * This is not the reception wiki world where decisions are made on a personal basis or for basically no reason whatsoever: there is precedence, background and caution in the decisions that are made here, especially by a Steward in accepting wikis. Mistakes happen but this is a mistake the platform has already made (scopes like yours) and doesn't plan to make again. So please, consider that there may be a sincere reason behind the rejection; spare me attempting to lawyer out of the basic point of targeting an individual by scope; and try not to insinuate basic bad practice and instead try to find the actual, policy based reason why the decision was made.
 * Finally to address the above topic: you are making a false equivalence. The reason above does not apply to the two wikis you're trying to glue into this. If they have violations of the content policy (not, as you stated in the request, 'code of conduct' which is unrelated) then they should be reported on their own merits and you will get reasons why that is accepted or denied at that point. --Raidarr (talk) 12:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Doesn't Terrible SML Videos also have it's wiki addressed to one person? Nidoking (talk) 12:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * we are not criticizing celebs again. I mean, I could make a review wiki where I hate on an artist work and praise another, but that DOES NOT MEAN I hate the artist, I just don't like that music in particular. LovingHaydeL (talk) 14:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * SML is allowed because it is a web series. Money12123 (contribs | sandbox | CentralAuth) 03:43, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Dhar Mann is also a web-series too Nidoking (talk) 15:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That may have not been clear. Money12123 (contribs | sandbox | CentralAuth) 21:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

On-hold
So, other than me you were the person who talked about the on-hold status the most, but now you're not using it? Please don't decline wiki requests while asking for more info, instead declining requests that should be declined. On hold status exists for a reason! Naleksuh (talk) 03:03, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The on hold feature is broken at the moment which prevents users from being able to edit wiki requests unless the request is declined hence why I do that. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Universal Omega confirmed it is the other way around, that declined requests cannot be edited. Which is the way it is supposed to be. Naleksuh (talk) 03:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * From my testing, you can't edit a wiki request unless it's been declined, even if a request is in review. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I was pretty sure on hold requests was the only ones that could be edited, not even pending or declined. But, I could be wrong on the logic of it. If that is the case, my apologies for the confusion here as well. Universal Omega (talk) 21:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

If you are saying "Please look for a new wiki host."
That means you don't want the reception wikis on here anymore, and they should be locked and deleted. It's like you are banning them from being created when you say this. Nidoking (talk) 15:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * "PlEaSe LoOk FoR a NeW wIkI hOsT" aka we don't want QP wikis here anymore. We have stated numerous times NONE of the reception wikis assoicated with QP are closing (associated: CGW, AGW, GMV, AMV, BTVASW, WTVASW, DLW, MLW, TNRW) Please touch grass. LovingHaydeL (talk) 17:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Touches some grass* There I did it. Also I meant new reception wikis Nidoking (talk) 19:43, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok. I dare you to request kpop music review wiki LovingHaydeL (talk) 19:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * There is already Excellent Music Wiki and Horrible Music Wiki. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:01, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * AntiQuals trying not to say "touch grass" challenge (99% fail) -- Bukkit  [ cetacean needed ] 00:26, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-victor-spongebob-movie-the-thug-tug-gif-18020103 LovingHaydeL (talk) 00:42, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It was rejected because it was going to be the exact same topic as several closed wikis. Allowing it, imported pages or not, completely disregards the RFC to close them. They aren't completely banning them, it was the decision of the community, please stop blaming Miraheze staff for things they aren't doing. They've had enough of that when the wikis were open. Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 19:51, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


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Stop reverting my edits

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * A case of fat fingers turns into this unsightly near-brawl like condition. As evidenced by the patrol log, it seems I clicked "Rollback" rather than "Mark as patrolled" for your edit. Now, if users wish to contest the proposed changes to the GoW, they are always free to do so. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:35, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Why are you reverting my edits on Gazeteer of wikis? I removed where it said that they are Miraheze's most popular wikis (even though they are). I don't want to get into an edit war. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:53, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I removed where it said that they are Miraheze's most popular wikis (even though they are). This is false. There are several other wikis that are more popular than Qualitipedia. --Zeus  (talk|contribs|accounts|email) 20:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I still removed that part though. Also that is not false. Why else would people confuse Miraheze with the Reception Wikis? GoAnimate/Vyond will forever be known for grounded videos, Reddit will forever be known for memes, and Miraheze will forever be known for the Reception Wikis. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know the statistics, but I heard it mentioned that the Polandball wikis are actually the most popular. But you'll just make up another definition for what you mean as soon as your statement is disproven. Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 21:11, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I agree with you. I think the Polandball Wiki is more popular than the Reception Wikis, as someone who has been on the PB Wiki since the FANDOM era.  CameralTea or KumihoWolffey  (talk) 22:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * On top of that, there's Closing Logos, recently rebranded to AVID, All The Tropes, and more, all of which are way more popular than Qualitipedia. --Zeus  (talk|contribs|accounts|email) 22:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I found this website that tracks the largest wikis on Miraheze, and yeah, there are basically no Qualitipedia Wikis here. (Be forewarned this site is extremely slow) --Zeus  (talk|contribs|accounts|email) 22:26, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That list that you linked is sorted by the number of pages, not the amount of active users. If you sort by the active users, the main 6 Qualitipedia wikis and the Character reception wikis are some of the most active, along with the Polandball wikis, AVID, and Real Life Villains Wiki. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:33, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ALL THE TROPES IS NOT POPULARǃǃǃ It only has 53 active users, as opposed to Qualitipedia, Polandball Wiki, and AVID wihch have a few hundred. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:28, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * In terms of active users we are among the largest. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:29, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Given the topic is already de-facto an edit war it would probably be best to have this as a subject on the Gazetteer's talk page. And for that matter I thought there was a movement to abolish that page anyway since its usefulness is very limited and made obsolete by WikiDiscover. --Raidarr (talk) 22:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Damn Mr. Isai

 * It looked like you got a very ugly argument on your talk page. LovingHaydeL (talk to me uwu!) 16:19, 6 October 2022 (PST)

Some question
Is there any way to add the trending pages part on categories like the ones on Fandom? Also, other than that, how can I find all wikis I edited/visited on? Icantthinkofanamexd (talk) 23:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * 1. I don't think there is.
 * 2. Use Special:CentralAuth. Tali64³ (talk) 17:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

The New Reception Wiki (2)
Question: If I delete all of the imported pages, can this wiki be reopened? Money12123 (contribs | sandbox | CentralAuth) 03:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This would require a reset in essence as Nidoking's imports has caused this wiki to be 99% fork. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The wiki did state the pages need to be imported rather than being copied/pasted. Nidoking (talk) 16:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The wiki was evidently wrong and needs to change its approach. --Raidarr (talk) 19:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * So what exactly do I need to do? Money12123 (contribs | sandbox | CentralAuth) 21:01, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello? Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 20:17, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Question
Why did you remove the comments and blog posts (at least on AMW) from the Qualitipedia wikis before closing it? Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 06:03, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * actually a few days after the shut down some people found out on TTSAEW that they can still make blog posts The user who loves human heads on alien/animal bodies in cartoons for no reason (talk to me uwu!) 19:38, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I know, I'm talking about AMW. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 20:37, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * What log entries indicate he did so? --Raidarr (talk) 03:22, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * When you try to find a blog on AMW, it does not exist, and seeing the blog creator's contributions page shows that the blog is under the namespace Special:Badtitle. TSEW no longer has a comments log and the comments do not appear. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 08:14, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If you have no log entries of actual deletions and what you describe resembles an error, then you're probably dealing with a technical glitch and it is inappropriate to ask Agent why he specifically deleted them when he has absolutely no reason to do so. --Raidarr (talk) 13:02, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems disabling SocialProfile broke the namespace as they weren't real pages on the namespace it seems but rather 'psuedo' pages which relied on BlogPage? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * If you still want to read them, they're still in the dump as it was made before they were disabled. --Zeus  (talk|contribs|accounts|email) 12:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * So should I ask Phabricator or... Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 20:15, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You could, especially if Agent doesn't know about this off the top of his head. From my experience there is nothing in a Steward or even SRE member's toolkit that leaves that kind of trail so I expect it's some weird bug that happened at the time of closure. I'd be as descriptive as possible and leave any error codes found in the report. --Raidarr (talk) 23:41, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * "Closing" a wiki doesn't disable any SocialProfile features such as comments or blog posts so I disabled that on all wikis. Additionally, it seems most wikis had an awful amount of spam on their SocialProfile anyhow. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Why does it matter now that it's closed though? Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 00:55, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * How can a wiki be "closed" when people can still edit? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:58, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * What I mean is, when a wiki is closed, it can't be edited regardless. For some reason you can still create blogs on some wikis, but still. Money12123 (contribs | CentralAuth) 04:06, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

is it ok to request custom domain switch for a wiki
I know I made a Phabricator request for that, but I just wanted to make sure that it's okay I did Bawitdaba (talk) 18:42, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's allowed. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Great to know, thank you! Bawitdaba (talk) 00:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Taiwanese
Hi, please miraheze have provide taiwanese can use?like to this ,thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 04:47, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * We support all the languages MediaWiki supports. It does seem however that MediaWiki doesn't support that yet. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ok,thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:26, 12 October 2022 (UTC)