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How much storage space does Miraheze have?
Well, My wiki, Crazybloxian Empire, could get large pretty soon. How much storage space does the wiki-hosting service have? , or. The one in Illogicopedia might be a good sample of this.-- 16:17, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Visual Editor not scaling SVG files
Sorry to post again in such a short period. I have run into a conundrum, I'm not exactly sure where this question should be directed. I really like using the visual editor but I have noticed that it displays SVG files at full size. This is a bit problematic because I use SVG files for my flags. When I go to edit this page the flag in the infobox scales to the default 600x300px size. I was going to go on phabricator until I noticed that the visual editor did the same thing on this page. So it seems to be universal. However, it does not do this when using visual editor on Wikipedia, for example when editing Canada the flag in the infobox stays the same size as it does when viewing the page. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm posting it here because you all were very helpful earlier. - CerebralPolicy (talk) 20:07, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have checked that it actually happens myself, but I'm not sure why. I think it's related to the configuration of Miraheze, so you should ask it on Phab.-- 20:40, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Help with the proofreadpage extension
I was wondering if anyone has ever used or has an understanding of the proofread page extension I would like to use this properly on my Great War wiki and am in the process of trying it out. I have most of it working (having had to include a few other things to make it function correctly) with the exception of two things that I can see. I would really appreciate any help in trying to fix these as the first issue is just aesthetically unpleasing to the eye and the second issue is the main the reason I wanted to use this extension. Apologies for being absent on meta for quite some time; I've had some stuff to deal with and have been busy with adding pages on my wiki. Thanks. 21:12, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) There is a Lua error message on my page here compared with Wikisource's same page here I don't know what this is or how to fix this.
 * 2) The page numbers, shown thus in square parentheses: [1] [2] [3] etc., which when hovering over highlights the text for that page (of the original source), don't appear on my page or any other page. This is the one main thing I really want to work but doesn't.
 * Ah, the first error has nothing to do with the extension. I'll have to try and clean up some of your modules as they seem to require extraneous features. The other one is a script or gadget. I'll find out what you need shortly. -- Void  Whispers 00:54, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The script you're looking for is PageNumbers.js, and can be loaded with . --  Void  Whispers 00:56, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for having a look, and so quickly too. What do you mean by it can be loaded using the code above? Do you mean this is all that's needed on MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js to load the appropriate code directly from Wikisource? I've haven't done anything like this before so don't know how it works, however, this is what I've done. Is it a case of waiting to see if the changes take effect? 08:11, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to be working, did I do it correctly? 06:39, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Should have been more clear here, but the best place to put that line would be MediaWiki:Common.js as it won't load for anyone in its current place. -- Void  Whispers 16:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, tried that. How long does it usually take to work as it's still not show those page numbers? Does it matter where that code is placed on Commons.js? 20:54, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Update: there seems to be some strange behavior happening. The page numbers have appeared, but only when logged out. When logged in they disappear. In addition to this, when hovering over the numbers, the highlighted area is not highlighting the correct text. Also, the numbers don't have enough indented white space around them. Is this a skinning issue or is something else at play here? Thanks. 07:24, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Help with infobox
Hi, I've been having trouble trying to get my infobox to work correctly (the template in question shown here). I've been trying to create a cell box (if that's the right word for it) for it and for it to be shifted to the right (shown here). I'm very new to the MediaWiki style of editing after editing on Wikia for the past few years so any help would be great! Coldcherrii (talk) 02:56, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You are missing styling most likely from MediaWiki:Common.css, depending on where you took the infoboxes from. I'm not too sure since I don't usually deal with Wikia templates. I think what you need is the styling:

.infobox { background-color: #f2f2f2; border: 1px solid #cccccc; clear: right; color: #3a3a3a; float: right; margin-bottom: .5em; margin-left: 1em; padding: .2em; }
 * But I'm not sure that will handle everything. -- Void  Whispers 03:04, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It worked so far! Thank you so much! Coldcherrii (talk) 03:09, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Wiki does not make
When trying to make a wiki, you can not make it by displaying the message "The database name may not contain non-alphanumeric characters." Why are the messages displayed, although they should not be typed except for alphanumeric characters?--大根やろう (talk) 08:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me what the wiki name is?
 * Have you checked that you entered your subdomain WITHOUT, and in one word (without spaces)?
 * I've had such error in the past because I have mistakenly added miraheze.org, which is unnecessary.-- 09:21, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--大根やろう (talk) 12:02, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * My pleasure :) (but it's a bit ironic, because it was I who answered this question, and at the same time who lead you to Miraheze meta instead of talking about this issue at Enpedia, isn't it? 結局日本人が答えている訳ですし).-- 12:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)modded.-- 12:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

How much longer are we going to be without images?
I have a major publicity push going for my wiki the month of July, and images started acting up two days into this initiative (no uploads, then no images at all, then images, and now no images at all again.)

What is the ETA of having full image functionality be restored?

And why did we not get advance notice of something that would make such a major impact on all of the wikis on Miraheze? If I had known in advance, I could have re-scheduled the publicity push, but it's too late for that now. I saw no notices of any planned upgrades.

--Robkelk (talk) 16:53, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello we apologise for the lack of communication and for not notifying sooner, which wiki is having no images? Paladox (talk) 18:20, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I've ran a script to make all containers public so that you can view your images now. (only 1 container is still private per user request). Please let us know if it still does not work. Paladox (talk) 18:51, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * The image issues were taking place on poserdazfreebies and allthetropes. --Robkelk (talk) 14:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * So are the issues now fixed? Again, we are sorry for not having communicating this in advance, and hope it has not caused any serious disruptions, and we will make sure to communicate such actions in the future. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 14:42, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * , I've double-checked, and it appears to be fixed now. Thank you. --Robkelk (talk) 17:41, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Bots and anyone interested in creating one
I was wondering if anyone has a particular skill in creating and using bots. I am starting to get going now with my Great War transcribing site, having recently installed the Proofread Page extension, and one of the laborious tasks for each book in the early stages is creating a new page for every page of a book. If a book has 600+ pages, like the one I've just started, you can imagine it is a time-consuming process even if you only have to click on "create," click the "Not proofread" button and then save. It is, after all a raw page that hasn't been proofread, but the page still needs creating nonetheless. I am hoping a bot will be able to this for me so I can get on with the actual proofreading, which in itself is a lengthy process. Is anyone, with a particular interest or skill in this field, able to create a bot with this task in mind to help and save me considerable time. If not, no worries, just thought I'd ask at this early juncture. Thanks. 15:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I know and  have created bots. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 17:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Depending on where the book material originates from, I don't think it would be too difficult to get something working, especially since it looks like those pages can be altered and created with a standard edit and default to "Not proofread". -- Void  Whispers 18:10, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have been using archive.org as my base for out-of-copyright material, some I'm interested in and many I'm not. The main current one, I noticed later, is on Wikisource as well and I'm using .djvu files. It would be great if a bot could be created to take the burden of creating the page first, and as it is literally one click on the "Not proofread" button and save, the operation, at least for a bot, I am hoping, would be fairly simple (not that I actually understand how they work). Please do let me know if you're interested in creating one. As always, your help makes a big difference, cheers.  18:58, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not to familiar with proofread ext and stuff like that when it comes to bots, so i wont be any help here... sorry! Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 17:26, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Since this could be useful for people outside Miraheze as well, maybe you should also try asking around MediaWiki.org, since there might be someone willing to help there. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 19:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem pal. 20:29, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't actually have an account on MediaWiki.org. It would seem a bit odd to create one and my first post there to be a request for someone to create a bot for me. I think I'd have to establish myself a little first. For the time being it looks like I'm going to have do this the longer, more laborious way, which in itself isn't too bad, it's just boring. I just wish I knew how to code stuff! 20:29, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Adding MsCalendar to my wiki
Hi, I am trying to add the MsCalendar to my wiki, I have enabled it in Special:ManageWiki, but the simple text

UTOPIAE calendar

is not doing the drill. Any help is much appreciated!

It takes about a minute for changes from ManageWiki to take effect, I have checked the page and the calendar works for me. Please tell me if you are still experiencing issues. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 19:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

File doomed
Hi, looking on the filelist i see, that some files are lost. What is to do? Is an NEW upload an good methode? greatings Rimbao (talk) 21:50, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * a New Upload was reporting the error message

In der Datenbank „miraheze-swift“ ist ein unbekannter Fehler aufgetreten.
 * --Rimbao (talk) 22:06, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


 * We are looking into this. Paladox (talk) 22:12, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


 * it is an general problem see --Rimbao (talk) 23:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Problem is solved! Thanks --Rimbao (talk) 03:42, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Problems with images and thumbnails
Is anyone else experiencing some problems with images and thumbnails not showing? I don't know if the .djvu or .pdf files are corrupt or there is an issue after uploading. One of my .djvu files has missing thumbnails (and I need these so I can see what to transcribe) and then I tried to upload a .pdf version of the same file and I received this error notice: "An unknown error occurred in storage backend "miraheze-swift". This just started this evening. Any solutions? 22:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, which wiki is this for? Paladox (talk) 22:08, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It's for thegreatwar.miraheze.org I think all of the .djvu files are affected in some way or another, but it does seem quite sporadic as to which images within those files are displaying and which aren't. They are accessible from the Transcribing projects page, and any with "Yes" in the first column "Index" has an index of the .djvu files. Clicking on random pages reveals some images not displaying, with the following message: "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination". Other images are fine and display properly; it's purely random. This is what happened the other day when work was being done on the images update/upgrade etc. Cheers. 22:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * All of my images have gone now, including my logo. Is anyone else having the same issue or is it just me? 06:47, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, your images now work. Paladox (talk) 17:06, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the fix. What causes the issue? 17:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Permission errors on your wiki's image container. We are considering switching from swift to a alternative as it seems since the switch to swift there has been more problems. We will announce before doing it though (switch). Paladox (talk) 17:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Has this happened on a few other wikis then, permission errors on image containers? I didn't know image containers had permissions associated with them. I noticed that my images didn't always load properly, they were a bit temperamental at times but they gave up entirely last night right in the middle of some transcribing I was working on. I've always got other things I can work though. 18:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep other wiki's have had this problem. The permission is by default only read only and write only to the user. We have all containers apart from one open to anons (so you doin't need a container account to view the images). Sometimes it seems it is loosing the permission to view the image as a anon. Paladox (talk) 18:27, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Why not create something like Wikimedia Commons (a shared image repository for all Miraheze wikis)?
Hi. I'd like to propose to create a wiki like Wikimedia Commons here on Miraheze. Miraheze hosts over 2000 wikis, but, as far as I know, there's no wiki working as a globally-shared image repository, though there's one for templates.

By creating such wiki,
 * 1) Users won't have to upload the same image on every wiki, when necessary. Users can use it on all wikis by uploading it to Commons.
 * 2) Miraheze can save its disc space, because we can reduce uploads of duplicated images on multiple wikis.

Since this wiki will be a wiki that affects all other Miraheze wikis, I think it should be run by Miraheze personnel (such as Stewards), if we are to create one. However, before making a decision, I propose that this issue of creating Commons should be discussed by the community, thus here I am to post this.

Thanks for reading.-- 03:32, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't think we need to do the work to create an analog of Wikimedia Commons, when Miraheze wikis have automatic access to the real thing; please read here.  05:04 13-Jul-2018
 * I know that we can use images from Wikimedia Commons, but we have to visit the website OUTSIDE Miraheze to upload images, if we wish to use it as something like "Miraheze Commons." On the other hand, by creating our own Commons, we no longer have to create another account to go to Wikimedia. I should also note that some images can be deleted because they aren't necessary for Wikimedia and its projects, even if we need them on multiple Miraheze wikis (since Wikimedia and Miraheze have different policies), while creating our own Commons wiki will allow us to upload any images as long as we follow our Content Policy.-- 05:27, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is a bad idea. It did seem a little redundant to me at first because I have used Commons for quite a few images and it's a simple way to instantly show them in your articles without the hassle of uploading, adding descriptions and licences, however, what harm could it do to have our own Commons? I know I have a ton of photos I could upload but whether they'd be any use to anyone is another matter. 18:05, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

I have several problems with my wiki.
Hi. I'd like to report several problems regarding my wiki. I need a solution for these issues. Could anyone help me? Thanks.-- 18:33, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) I can't see Special:RecentChanges, with an error "504 Gateway Time-out" returned. Other pages are displayed fine, and it's only seen on RecentChanges.
 * 2) I need to use the alternative widget of Extension:html5mediator shown at Extensions in order to play some mp3 files. However, the link provided there is a link to a private wiki, and I cannot see the contents, nor import it to my wiki. I need a valid link that enables us to check how it works.
 * It seems that the problem of RecentChanges only happens when I try to see 500 recent changes (when limited to 250, it worked properly). Do you have any ideas why this happens?-- 03:31, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Styling for login and preferences pages
I was just wondering why the login page and the preferences page doesn't have the same styling that I have included in Vector.css. These seem to be the only two pages that do not use my additional styling. Is there a particular reason for this? Is it a security issue or something? I would like to be able to have both these pages use the same styling as everything else if possible. Just let me know if it requires a ticket on phabricator. Thanks. 21:04, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Certain special pages don't load custom styling. I'm not actually sure what needs to get done in order to do styling to those pages. It might not be possible without completely customizing those pages. -- Void  Whispers 18:42, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have had a look on Mediawiki.org and found this: Manual:$wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages Do you think this something Miraheze would allow? 20:59, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What do you think about the above? Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 10:51, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm cautious. It's a very valid security issue, esp given how we operate with unified logins, unvetted administrators without a strong community backing, lack of trust etc and so on. I'm not saying yes, I'm not saying no - I'm leaving it as a judgement call. John (talk) 18:29, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't want to ruffle any feathers. Just seems strange to have styling for the whole site except specific pages, especially when the styling is substantially different between those pages. If yes, the great. If not, that's fine too. 20:39, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

ManageWiki help page
Hi folks, I've setup User:Void/ManageWiki in order to have a help page/user documentation page for Special:ManageWiki. If there's anything critical missing, please either suggest it, or add it. Otherwise, I'll be moving it into the mainspace and linking to it from the FAQ and request features pages. If anyone thinks images are necesary, I can plop those in as well. -- Void  Whispers 18:40, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That's great, just what we needed. As soon as the newest change for ManageWiki is rolled out I will update the page with the relevant information (there will be a separate extensions page for convenience). This help page should also definitely be linked somehow (help button?) From the special page. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 20:17, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks good, just what we need. This is something I brought up in the year 3 survey, well not exactly a help page but certainly more information about the extensions on the Manage a Wiki special page. It isn't automatically apparent, especially for new users maybe, what it is you are supposed to do here; and the extensions don't even have a heading (to say that's what they are). It looks obvious to those already in the know but there will always be others that aren't sure. This is why I suggested to have a couple of sentences about what the extensions section does and how it works etc. directly above the list of extensions on the Manage a Wiki page. Your help page material though is beneficial to all, good job. 21:13, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Recently, we've implemented links to the MediaWiki.org pages of the extensions into ManageWiki, so you can read all about them by clicking on the links. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 10:50, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I noticed that yesterday and thought that was a great improvement. The Manage a Wiki special page is huge step forward for Miraheze and an impressive leap for user front-end wiki management. I, personally, think it's a great tool and look forward to seeing any other features that may appear in the future. Great work by the creators/authors. 17:20, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

New "interwiki admin" group for Miraheze (RfC?)
For a while now, we have a number of users unhappy with the fact that Special:Interwiki can only be edited by sysadmins, who would like to be able to edit their own interwiki as that would be more practical and easier for them. The reason for which interwiki is restricted for sysadmins is the fact that if any wiki administrator could edit it, they could link malicious sites (phishing, spam) and disguise them as wiki links, which can be dangerous for our users. Therefore, as a solution I would propose the creation of a new "inter-wiki" global group granted by sysadmins to some users who enter a certain criteria (TBD). I would like to know if the community is interested in such a thing, before starting an RfC. This group would be a global group only for changing interwiki, and would be granted to trusted users. These users would only change interwiki for the wikis who requested it (or for their own). Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 11:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with the basic idea. For the criteria, I have 2 drafts.
 * Draft 1: Users having autopatrolled permission on meta, and/or global staffs (Steward, Sysadmins, CVT, etc), indicating global trust.
 * Draft 2: Users fulfilling the draft 1 above or users who request the permission, and is supported by more than half of the voters (including, at least 1 staff).
 * -- 11:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Incorrect information - we delegated interwiki management to meta admins not sysadmins. Therefore all it takes to increase this is more meta admins or a discussion on meta to increase it locally as we delegated this responsibility to meta to take it out of the global sysadmin purview. John (talk) 18:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Theese day it does not make things much different, as only one of our sysadmins is not a local sysop. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 19:06, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Meta admin is waaay easier to get than sysadmin. It makes a massive difference. John (talk) 19:26, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that most users who could have this right wouldn't really be interested in performing other Meta duties; they mostly just want to change their interwikis when they want, since many current requests take time, this would be way more convenient. I also think that interwiki should be something added locally to wikis, and the global Miraheze interwiki list should not be changed often. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 22:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to make an alternative for mw:Extension:DynamicFunctions?
Hi, I've migrated our old wiki here on Miraheze, and have a technical issue regarding mw:Extension:DynamicFunctions. Some of our pages depends on this function and doesn't work. However, at the same time, I think Miraheze will not install this extension because it's currently archived. Thus, we need an alternative. Can anyone help us with this? Thanks for helping.-- 02:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * P.S. The wiki in question is Usopedia. For the pages that should be modded, I'll provide you a list ASAP (just not now, because I'm kind of packed up, but general solutions are welcome).-- 02:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

zh-tw

 * Hi, you can will my wiki change domain zh-tw.internetpedia.miraheze.org?thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 00:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC)