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Requesting edit on MediaWiki:Sidebar
Could someone change the FAQ string to ? This will enable translation of that label from MediaWiki:Faq/sv, MediaWiki:Faq/sv/de, etc. --Sabelöga (talk) 02:23, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your request, but it's not clear that (a) this can, or should, be changed on-wiki and (b) how you want this effected. Can you confirm this can be done on-wiki and not, say, through translatewiki.net or some other venue? Additionally, can you please specify your requested change in the format of "change x into y". Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 02:30, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe I've understood what you're after, but this really should be done in our GitHub MirahezeMagic repository, so I've ✅ this pull request for you. Once it's merged, I'll update the MediaWiki:Sidebar per your request and follow up here. However, keep in mind the localisation updates are only processed on a weekly basis (every Monday at 0:00 UTC, if I remember correctly), so it'll be just a bit yet before you can translate. Trusting this works for you. Dmehus (talk) 02:42, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, . On MediaWiki:Sidebar, I would want the string  to be changed into , this will make the program fetch the displayed text from the system message  , which, for instance Swedish, would make it Frågor och Svar and for German Häufig gestellte Fragen. The way it is now, the text is written in raw text which displayed the English   regardless of language. Sabelöga (talk) 02:47, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, okay, I don't see why we would have to go through GitHub to change something in the sidebar, but if that's praxis I suppose it's fine, as long as it gets done. --Sabelöga (talk) 03:07, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Interface messages, whenever possible, are supposed to be done through translatewiki.net, mainly because editing certain messages locally can have unforeseen side effects. So, this would be my preference. Moreover, editing it through translatewiki.net will mean the change can be used globally. That is to say, other Miraheze wikis can use the  interface message flag in their sidebar, and it doesn't need to be retranslated over and over. Dmehus (talk) 04:59, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course we should be translating through translatewiki, but that requires us to use the translation they provide, and in this case we don't. The translations are already here (see: MediaWiki:faq/sv, MediaWiki:Faq/ar, etc.). Writing FAQ in lower-case will uitlize these, and display them to readers if they set their system language to a certain language. Do note that we do the same thing in MediaWiki:Sidebar already with  which calls for MediaWiki:mainpage-description/de, MediaWiki:mainpage-description/pl, etc. All I ask for is that we do the same thing with the FAQ that's all. Sabelöga (talk) 05:07, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe  is a MirahezeMagic-controlled interface message, though. Dmehus (talk) 05:13, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Isn't it on every MediaWiki wiki though? Sabelöga (talk) 05:15, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe  is, but is  ? If you can show me evidence on MediaWiki that it is, then I'll add it. Otherwise, I'd be inclined to delete those other local MediaWiki interface messages and shift them to translatewiki.net. Dmehus (talk) 05:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Faq/sv it is. Sabelöga (talk) 05:23, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That doesn't tell me, though, if  is a defined message description in core MediaWiki. For all I know, they could be just piping the wikilink in MediaWiki:Sidebar. So, I really would prefer to go through translatewiki.net, in absence of further evidence. Dmehus (talk) 05:28, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Faq/sv here it is, in all its translated glory. Sabelöga (talk) 05:42, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, so to be clear, you're not asking me to create a local  subpage in MediaWiki: namespace. If I add   to the MediaWiki:Sidebar, this will just properly translate the link in the sidebar. The actual Swedish translation of MediaWiki:Faq will be done on translatewiki.net? If so, I can do that, and this was after I just got my GitHub commit merged to create a separate   interface message. LOL ;-) Dmehus (talk) 05:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * In a nutshell, yeah. Sabelöga (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, great, then this seems to be ✅, assuming what I asked is accurate. Dmehus (talk) 06:04, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the label is now translated, thanks very much :D If you'd like you could temporary change your system language and see how it changes along with the rest of the links in the sidebar. Sabelöga (talk) 06:06, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

✅! Yeah, it's weird that MediaWiki:Faq can't be deleted, and there's not even a page history for it, so it must indeed be a special core MediaWiki message. Yes, I might do that temporarily one of these days. ✅. Dmehus (talk) 06:16, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for deleting a page
Could an admin please delete Userboxes/dr? It is a subpage of a translatable page and the title and page content makes me feel like it was supposed to be a translated page but the Translate extension's translating interface was not used. It is currently showing up in Special:PageTranslation as a page proposed for translation because of having the  tag in its Wikitext. While this is not really a problem, I do not see any use of that page either. Thank you. R4356th (talk) 16:04, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅, thanks to . R4356th (talk) 16:07, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, ✅, and thanks both for your report and for your clerking, as I was just coming here to say that. I've also separately verified that all existing translation subpages are valid translation subpages, not manually created ones. Dmehus (talk) 16:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thank you very much. R4356th (talk) 16:12, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Requesting edit on Copyrights

 * 1) There's a  missing on the page, it's no big deal since it doesn't break the page but still, it looks like something's wrong when translating the page. The whole translate unit should be inside the span since it then removes the span entirely from the translating unit, with the link in tvar.
 * 2) There's also a Special:MyLanguage missing from the Miraheze link. --Sabelöga (talk) 07:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Dmehus (talk) 14:10, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks you. --Sabelöga (talk) 20:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

I want to add a CodeMirror extension to this wiki
I would like this wiki to introduce CodeMirror Extensions with. Reason ... It's hard to see when writing in wiki text. This tool can be turned on and off at any time by the individual user. Waki285 (talk) 03:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * First, thank you for this suggestion, which I have procedurally moved from community noticeboard to here, where it is now notionally in scope, as I can actually see a good use case for enabling CodeMirror on Meta Wiki. At the same time, I believe Universal Omega has also enabled it on his DC Multiverse Wiki together with VisualEditor. Generally speaking, we should probably leave this discussion open for approximately 3-5 calendar days or so, to encourage anyone else to express an opinion, and then I'll reach out to the steward bureaucrat John to effect this change. Thanks again. Dmehus (talk) 04:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Please specify Category Pages as the translation target
Please specify Category:Stewards as the translation target.--Waki285 (talk) 05:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Sabelöga (talk) 05:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you like, you can also prepare the rest of the categories in Category:Global user groups to be consistent. Sabelöga (talk) 05:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please also Template:Update. Waki285 (talk) 04:05, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm less familiar with translatable templates, but this does seem fine to me, so ✅. I assume you'll need to use it conjunction with TNT, correct? Dmehus (talk) 04:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, otherwise the translations tags will show on the target page ;) --Sabelöga (talk) 06:16, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Removing my flag
With my recent successful election to steward, I really do not require the  flag on Meta Wiki, so if any Meta bureaucrat could kindly remove the flag for me, that would be great.

Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 01:47, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * unless you’re resigning the relevant rights. Steward is not a permission to supersede local rights. John (talk) 01:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . Though you and I ended up having a conversation on IRC, I felt that it would be important for me to clarify on-wiki the intent behind my unusually brief request. Indeed, I know that the steward role is not a substitute for local user groups, but was mainly wondering whether a Meta bureaucrat would be able to provide me a local authorization to use the user rights as part of the Meta interface administrator user group (since that group itself is a discretionary appointment). Following my conversation with you, while that could be done in theory, in practical terms, from the sounds of it, there exists no local policy on providing for this delegation. Perhaps that's a local discussion the Meta Wiki community could have at some point, defining the user rights the global groups may use and under what conditions they may use them regardless of whether the local user groups are also held. At any rate, following your suggestion, I'll hang onto the user group for the time being. Thanks again. Dmehus (talk) 22:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Update list of current stewards at Stewards
Since Dmehus is now a steward, may a Meta administrator update the list at Stewards? Justarandomliberal (talk) 03:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I will try and have all the user group lists updated later this evening. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 03:30, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This has been ✅ by . If you ever see minor inconsistencies between the user list subpages, please don't hesitate to make the update(s) yourself, taking care to leave a clear edit summary and, optionally, linking to a relevant permalink/diff in said edit summary. Thanks again for your reporting this, and for your community contributions. Dmehus (talk) 17:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is unfortunately, ❌. List of Stewards has not been updated yet. R4356th (talk) 20:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * And I cannot edit that page since it is protected. :( R4356th (talk) 20:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I didn't even know that List of Stewards existed, actually. It looks like it existed prior to Stewards/List being created, so I've simply ✅ in the revisions prior to today, since the wikitable was broadly similar to that at Stewards/List, and now is appropriately credited as page creator of Stewards/List. So, now ✅. Dmehus (talk) 21:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. R4356th (talk) 21:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Dmehus (talk) 21:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I have destroyed User:Lily/global.js
I did not realize that I was in metawiki when I moved my global.js and edited the redirect link, now I cannot edit the page because it redirects to a page outside user namespace. Pls delete the page, so I can restore my old global.js, thank you very much Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 14:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I've moved it back to the original page. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 14:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Greetings LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 15:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note that I have procedurally moved this request from stewards' noticeboard to Administrators' noticeboard. Basically, Administrators' noticeboard is the venue for any requests about users or pages on Meta that requires administrator intervention]], local, small-ish community proposals, and local discretionary appointment permissions requests granted by either a local administrator or bureaucrat. Community noticeboard is technical support questions regarding your wiki, small-ish global community proposals, questions about Miraheze or MediaWiki generally, and requests to add interwiki prefixes to your wiki. Stewards' noticeboard is basically for anything requiring steward attention that isn't handled elsewhere on other related noticeboards (i.e., requests for adoption). Hope that helps. Glad the issue was ✅, too. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 5 December 2020 (UTC)