User talk:Integer

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Thanks,

DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:33, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * @DarkMatterMan4500 Ok, thank you!

Wiki Request #15724
Hi Integer,

Thank you for your kind words on your user page about Miraheze, and for your asking users to donate to Miraheze.

Regarding your above wiki request, it has been approved and created as a non-exclusive, general interest youth-targeted encyclopedia wiki, but a couple quick notes for you on that:
 * 1) Please do not try and attempt to create a complete fork of English Wikipedia, with its some 64 million content pages, as we simply do not have technical capacity to spare to just one wiki for that. As a more philosophical reason behind this, it becomes impossible for one user to realistically manage, enhance, edit, maintain, and combat vandalism on that many pages; and,
 * 2) General interest and knowledge encyclopedia wikis on Miraheze generally struggle to attract participating interest from members of the community, mainly because there's already Wikipedia, so you will quite likely be the only user editing your created wiki for a considerable period of time.

Again, thank you for choosing Miraheze, and for your kind words. :)

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 14:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I understand and accept this. Thank you! Integer (talk) 14:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, cool, and ✅. Dmehus (talk) 15:00, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus Can you kindly enable the Extension:Validator for this wiki? It would make articles much better, and is quite important to retain article quality, otherwise there are lots of errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Integer (talk • contribs) 02:26, 19 December 2020‎ (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem like Validator is installed on Miraheze, when I look in Special:ManageWiki/extensions. So, can you please use this feature request form on Phabricator to create a request for this extension to be installed on Miraheze? Once security reviewers have given it the green light, then it can be installed by system administrators on Miraheze. Use the MediaWiki login button to create your Phabricator account if you haven't already done so. Dmehus (talk) 03:06, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you! Integer (talk) 04:49, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅! Dmehus (talk) 05:06, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Spamming
You been blocked for spamming numerous user talks without reason, you can appeal, and if satisfactory you may be unblocked before then. Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 23:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * @User:Zppix My intention wasn't to spam, but put a welcome message. I did not realize that would be considered spam. If I am unblocked, I will not put these messages again, I promise. Integer (talk) 23:39, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Unblocked with a restriction of not being allowed creating pages that contain only a template for a period of 7 calendar days. If violated user will be re-blocked. Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 23:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Understood. Thank you. Integer (talk) 23:43, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * To expand on what said above, while your welcome messages were good-faith, so I wouldn't consider them spam, the reality is that we do not add welcome to a user's Meta Wiki user talk page until they have made their first editing contribution (i.e., not just a log action) on Meta. The reason for this is two-fold. For one thing, users' accounts are automatically added to Meta and they may never participate here. Secondarily, often user accounts end up being sockpuppet accounts, spam only accounts, or throwaway vandalism only accounts, so there's no need to welcome those accounts merely for attaching their account. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:23, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That makes more sense. I will keep that in mind in the future. Thanks for letting me know! Integer (talk) 18:24, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Test
Test --Integer talk 01:11, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Userbox template categories
Hi Integer,

I'm going to ask you to please investigate, and fix, Template:User hindu and Template:Thank Button so that your user page is correctly categorized by the templates. I could probably figure it out, but thought it a useful task for you to perform.

Many thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 18:52, 19 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Alright! Give me just a moment. Integer talk 18:53, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you please import them on Login Wiki? 19:03, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you please make these templates on Login Wiki as all global user pages (which are shown on all wikis unless a local one has been created is shown) are hosted there? You could then request them to be imported here on AN. 19:24, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, I can try. Integer talk 19:25, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! Creating them on Login Wiki ensures that a greater number of users can use it. :) 19:27, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, and no problem! Integer talk 19:31, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstood me. I asked you to create new templates on Login Wiki only and request them to be imported here on AN. As for the already created ones, you should request a Steward on SN to import them to Login Wiki. And in my honest view, we do not really need so many userboxes. But having said that, I cannot see any harm in having them either. 19:53, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, ok. I thought you meant to just add them over there. Ok, I will keep that in mind going forward. Integer talk 19:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it has been done. Integer talk 19:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Just a Friendly Note
Hi, I noticed that you removed your message because you apparently thought my answer was better. Even though it is really your choice, this is not necessary. Thank you. 22:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Right, I just thought it was better to not confuse a new user. for the personal message though! Integer  talk 22:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

About unsigned template on User talk:Void
Hi,

Just to let you know that as a patroller, we have guidelines when we add unsigned template, so if you want to help add it, you can read point 1 on this page. HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 06:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks! Integer talk 13:17, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Your Recent Template Creations
As I have already told you on AN, please do not copy-paste content from Wikipedia or really, anywhere without any attribution. You should at least, include a link to Wikipedia in your revision summary. A better idea is requesting Meta Sysops to do this for you on AN. Also, why are you creating so many templates which do not appear to be necessary? There are many ways you can help us out. And one of them is translating pages. You can find the full list of untranslated strings here. With your knowledge of different non-English languages, I think you can help us a lot there. Thank you. 15:43, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I just thought that Meta could use more of such templates, as we really only have much of the voting ones. Regardless, yes, I can translate as well. Thank you too. Integer talk 15:44, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, you can always create templates on Template Wiki. 15:51, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Mass creation of templates for Meta Wiki
Hi Integer,

As with DarkMatterMan4500, your creation of templates for Meta Wiki is done in good-faith and laudable, so for that (that is one example of a useful template, by the way). However, I can't help but feel like you are both adding templates en masse from English Wikipedia, principally, without regard to the templates' utility. Additionally, please consider that Meta Wiki is not Miraheze Template Wiki, the free template repository. In my local capacity as an administrator on Miraheze Template Wiki, I'd be willing to grant you local importer privileges on that wiki if you are wanting to assist in importing useful templates that have broad, pan-Miraheze applicability, but only if you commit to importing templates that are (a) not too Wikipedia-specific, (b) in keeping with Miraheze Template Wiki's community-approved scope, and if (c) you commit to de-Wikipedia-ifying them. I wouldn't want to add  on that wiki, though, until I get a feel for whether or not you understand the wiki's approved purpose and scope.

Additionally, while being bold is good, please do consider the rate of your page and template creation on Meta Wiki. There isn't a terrible lot more that needs doing, but if you're interested in helping to translate or update translations, that is always appreciated.

I'm going to allow your  user group to stand for now, but bear in mind that if administrators feel your revisions need a bit of extra review with the heightened awareness that unpatrolled revisions provide, it may be revoked for broad, discretionary reasons.

Thanks for your understanding. :)

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 15:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I understand and sorry if I was a bit of a pain in the ass there. Integer talk 15:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Wow though, this whole translating thing is pretty tough! Hats off to all who translate here at meta. Integer talk 18:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

テキストの改ざんをやめてください
(あなたは日本語を理解できるということで、日本語で書きます) こんにちは. 先日Gazetteer of wikis/jaでの投稿を拝見いたしました. しかし、あなたはリンクなどのテキストを改ざんしていますこのような編集はおやめください. (私が差し戻しました. )-- 03:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)


 * わかったわ、ごめんね. いじったつもりはなかったんだ、そんな風に見えたらごめんね. 私がしようとしていたのは、時代遅れの翻訳を置き換えることでした. ここから先はリンクの差し替えはしないようにしようと思います. メッセージありがとうございました. Integer  talk 05:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)


 * リンクは、 の「mh」を書き換えないでくださいね. ありがとう！-- 10:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * では、 の代わりに何を入れればいいのでしょうか？ Integer talk 18:42, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * たとえば、原文のテキストに と書かれていたら、 のように書けばいいということです、つまり、わざわざ に書き換えたり、 に書き換えなくていいわけです. -- 22:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ああ、わかった. ありがとう！ Integer talk 23:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Wiki creator helpful tips
Hi Integer,

First off, I will just start by welcoming you to the wiki creator team. Thank you for volunteering. As you are no doubt aware, Content Policy is our key global policy that guides us in creating wikis for customers. Essentially, every wiki needs to have both a clear purpose, some sort of scope (broad or narrow), and a topical focus. This is the main criterion that helps us to determine whether a wiki will have any potential Content Policy problems.

Second, I wanted to share with you a few tips that I found helpful when I first joined as a wiki creator:


 * 1) "Request comments" tab. Intuitively, one would think to use this tab when requesting more information, but as Amanda Catherine (and others) pointed out to me shortly after I joined as a wiki creator, there used to be a known issue with this in that the requestor wasn't notified via e-mail unless their wiki is either (a) approved or (b) declined. While there are now notifications, it's still advantageous to decline wiki requests needing more information to maintain a streamlined queue and to take "ownership" of requests, in a sense. Thus, when requesting more information on a wiki request, you really either (a) use the "decline" tab, referencing your follow-up comments in that text box and telling them to back into Special:RequestWikiQueue/  in order to add to, but not replace, their existing description with the needed information or (b) use either the "request comments" or "decline" tab in combination with a message on the requestor's user talk page on Meta. The approach you use is entirely up to you. I personally prefer option A, but either one is fine;
 * 2) Private wikis. Private wikis can generally have a shorter description and a less specific purpose, scope, or topic, but they do still need one. If you have some reservations about approving it as, say, a public wiki, due to that vagueness, you can tell them, in your comments prior to approving it, that you're approving it only as a private wiki and remind them to ensure their wiki complies with all aspects of Content Policy;
 * 3) Eurovision song contest and fictional worldbuilding wikis. These are two types of wikis that have few, if any, problems with them. So, as long as there's a clear sitename, URL, and at least a few words in the description that indicates this as the purpose, it's fine to approve them;
 * 4) Reception wikis (positive and negative). Many of the Reception wikis tend to give us the most the grief, especially in terms of content that is very negative about users. If it's a Reception wiki that focuses on terrible fast-food restaurants, that's usually less problematic than, say, one that focuses on gamer or YouTube celebrities, mainly because you're not dealing with content about real, living people. Please don't hesitate in asking follow up questions, sometimes multiple times, of these wikis, trying to narrow down whether the wikis will write about real people in some way and, if so, how they will do it. And, at the end of the day, if you are still not comfortable approving, you can write "on hold" for review by another wiki creator in "request comments";
 * 5) Chinese language mini-world wiki requests. These ones are tricky, but cause us arguably the most grief, particularly when they publish personal information of real people without their consent. Stewards have recently closed a swath of them following a detailed report on stewards' noticeboard, but some of the tricks I've observed them using are odd descriptions like "anti-dog wiki" or to "expose the truth and scandal". Somewhat less common, they will use a completely different, but vague, description, then change their tune when you follow up with them and use some of those key phrases I mentioned in the previous sentence;
 * 6) Google Translate. Don't hesitate to use Google Translate to review non-English public and private wikis. Notwithstanding the above point, most of these wikis' descriptions translate surprisingly well. As you've probably already noticed, I like to copy and paste the translated to English description into "request comments," so other wiki creators can see it easily. This is optional, but it's a good practice, I think; and,
 * 7) Don't hesitate to reach out on Discord and ask for a second opinion. If you are still unsure about approving a wiki, or just want a second opinion, don't hesitate to reach out to any wiki creator on Discord. This might be the most important guideline.

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 22:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

A couple more great best practices
Hi again Integer,

A couple more essential best practices I thought I'd share, one or both of which may already be doing...


 * 1) After approving a wiki, it's a very good  required practice to either (a) visit the wiki you created and use Special:ListUsers to make sure the requestor has   rights on the wiki or (b) use Special:CentralAuth on Meta to verify the requestor has   rights on the wiki. I personally use option B now as it is (a) quicker, (b) I manage the number of wikis to which I attach my user account, and (c) with private wikis, you can't view Special:ListUsers anyway; and,
 * 2) It's helpful, I think, to provide comments prior to your approving a wiki. Again, this is technically optional, but is definitely a good practice to continue, if you want.

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 22:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! I highly appreciate the advice, feedback, etc. I certainly will try to live up to Miraheze standards! Integer talk 04:58, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Not sure if you use Discord or IRC or not, but it's definitely recommended to use at least one of the two group chat platforms. If you use IRC, you can use IRCCloud, which provides a complimentary cloak. Alternatively, you can use any IRC client, register your nickname with NickServ, and then ask either John or NDKilla (PuppyKun) on IRC for a Miraheze IRC cloak. However you choose to communicate (i.e., Discord, IRC, on-wiki, etc.), don't hesitate to reach out if you have questions, though. Dmehus (talk) 05:05, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * once again! Integer talk 05:13, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

おめでとうございます！
おめでとうございます！あなたはウィキ作成者に就任しました. これからも頑張りましょう！ (利用者ページには がおけますよ！)-- 23:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


 * 👍 <font face="Roboto" color="#65e6ce">Integer talk 05:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Template:Thank Button
Hello, i have moved Template:Thank Button to Template:User likes thank button, so if you want, you can replace it on your userpage :),--MrJaroslavik (talk) 12:24, 26 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Sure, thanks for letting me know! <font face="Roboto" color="#65e6ce">Integer talk 03:45, 1 April 2021 (UTC)