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Hate speech
I found hate speech on the Rotten Websites Wiki under the comment section area of the article about "social justice warriors".

-CarlosFernandez says: "These people deserve to be genocided, i'll show no remorse because they caused some people go mentally ill"

-Saltillo says: "Heck they along with people who think video games cause violence and Alt Right should be sent to concentration and re-education camps"

Why is this allowed?

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2A02:120B:2C60:8280:6566:1D01:6FE3:DC8B 16:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I removed the comments immediately as of Monday, when I saw this pop up. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:59, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Recover account
I do not know where to write directly to “interwiki admin”, but knowin’ that I cannot, I’ve to improvise, so… and, I have problem to access my previous account Utente:Executive to Nonciclopedia… I tried hard, but due to being repeatedly banned I think my email will arrive during next few eras… I sent 2 emails without reply, I really like Nonci and I always will. I must recover my account because of years spent working hard for this site, I apologize for my behaviour that could be justified only in a sense that defy logic… by the way, logic defys me every crunchy day, but this is also part of my act… simply made to bring a little joy and more work to the current admin. If anything is possible, I’ll be waiting for further instructions… I do not vandalize and never did… you can easily check… so please be merciful or mercy-fill or full of mercy with very old Users… it is not my fault all LTAs on this site, THANK YOU ALL… hope I used ping correctly.---ExHaProblemiSempreQndTorna (talk)
 * What is your original account, and is it locked? If it is locked, I'd potentially be open to unlocking it, depending on the timeframe around which it was locked. If it is blocked, though, I won't be able to do anything about that, but I can provide you with instructions on how to engage with local administrators (including on Meta Wiki, if needed). Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 12:20, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * User:Executive2 was his previous account. Trijnstel talk 15:26, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks you both, but I have already discuss with local Admin, almost everything is fine, thanks all you, in particular Dmehus & Trijnstel.--Executive2 (talk) 19:28, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, glad you regained access to your account ✅ this issue locally. Dmehus (talk) 19:31, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Reviving the bureaucrat
I accidentally deleted the bureaucrat on the following page. Is it possible to recover the bureaucrat? USSR-Slav (talk) 10:06, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * USSR-Slav, ✅ the  group to you on   following my locally recreating the local group (#1 and #2) in accordance with the default permissions for the group. As a recommended security and best practice, it's recommended you not locally grant bureaucrats the ability to remove the   bit from other bureaucrats, to prevent inadvertent removals, chiefly, but secondarily to ensure that the actioning Steward ensures local removal requests are done in keeping with local policies and/or practices. Thanks. :) Dmehus (talk) 18:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * As an addendum, note that if your wiki had any existing bureaucrats other than yourself, you will need to re-add the bit to them. It didn't seem like there were other bureaucrats other than you, though, based on my review of the local users list. Dmehus (talk) 18:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Please close :
A couple of days ago, I investigated this wiki, and made a surprising find. I originally emailed the Stewards, Trust & Safety and SRE (Site Reliability Engineering), but the latter two told me something I probably should've known by then. Anyways, the wiki I investigated has a lot of libelous information and/or defamation involved. One example of this is this article on Isaac referring to him as a literal "nazi racist kkk evil hitler", which I honestly doubt that is the case with whatever happened to that user. There are WAY too many examples of this on their Special:AllPages page. If you go through all the articles on that page, you'll find that there are absolutely no reliable sources to back up those claims whatsoever. A lot of them have insults, racial slurs, and more libel on those pages. So apparently, that wiki was set up to bully, disparage, attack, or even harass a person or a group of people, as stated in the email I sent days ago regarding that wiki. I hope you take all the time you need to look into that wiki and investigate it like I did. Thanks. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:06, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * This wiki has been under review by Stewards for awhile now, and I do not believe this is in scope of Trust and Safety. There are some issues, certainly, with respect to Content Policy; the trouble is, many of the pages appear to have been created by the apparent subject users which are being profiled (positively or negatively). The difficulty, though, is in terms of verifying whether they are the subject users. Dmehus (talk) 17:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't know that it was under scrutiny for quite a while. 1 thing that did catch my eye was the one on the Joeson article, which has (surprise surprise) racial slurs. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:46, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Just chiming in here, maybe DarkMatterMan4500 has already reported them, but there also appears to be two other examples of such slur being used, here and here. Additionally, this search query returns some questionable results. Agent Isai (talk) 17:55, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah. The trouble I have with this wiki is that it was posed to the then approving wiki creator at the time as a wiki related to the Free Birds movie. It is definitely not that, so that is a strike against the wiki requestor(s) acting in good-faith. I will be discussing with existing Stewards, but one option which I might favour might be to lock and make the wiki private, as this would allow the users to poke fun at each other, without the negative consequences of their false statements (ostensibly made out of some sense of self-deprecating humour) being publicly visible in Google web search results. (Side note: locking a wiki doesn't prevent on-wiki editing, but it does preclude local ManageWiki changes being made by users without the  user right.) Dmehus (talk) 18:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh please do lock the wiki and make it private, as there are clear Code of Conduct and Content Policy violations all over the place. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:06, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Please approve my wiki request
Hello Sir...I'm a user of free encyclopedia Wikipedia. Please see. But I'm very sad because I want a wiki for myself, to which I can contribute with a lot of heart, I have requested for a wiki, please approve it, so that I will be able to contribute happily. Please see my wiki request -. Best Regards, Jiggyziz (talk) 04:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome to Miraheze! It's not that wiki creators don't want to create your wiki, it's just that your description is simply not very detailed. Your latest request just says that's it an encyclopedia for good readers, that doesn't tell Miraheze what your wiki is about. Be descriptive about what your wiki will cover, like if it covers current events, then write a description about what it'll cover, etc, and a wiki creator will gladly accept it. Agent Isai (talk) 05:11, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I have since ✅ that wiki request since the details were updated to make it look good. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:37, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Could you please shut down mh:rottenwebsites:Rotten Websites Wiki?
Ever since the shutdown of The Outcast Network, the wiki became flooded with pages about users, with some of them unsourced, which is against Content Policy. If you close the wiki or at least warn the admins, that would have been appreciated. SPEEDYBEAVER ( talk ) 10:54, 2 July 2021 (UTC)


 * We've been removing a ton of unsourced pages, so I don't really see the point of shutting it down though. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:07, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * But there's still too much of them. SPEEDYBEAVER  ( talk ) 11:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm still trying to see which ones shall be removed. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:12, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The article on Hbomberguy for example. I do think it is funny how that same wiki got reported twice within 48 hours though. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 11:19, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Still though, it's slowly becoming the new Atrocious YouTubers Wiki, even though it's a Mainline wiki. SPEEDYBEAVER  ( talk ) 11:22, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * So, forced closure and/or deletion of a wiki in accordance with Content Policy is almost always the last step we would take. Your request, citing no specific evidence and, crucially, how the problem is both pervasive and local administration turns a blind eye are not sufficient for any action here. I will say that Stewards received a complaint via e-mail regarding a page on that wiki, and we were able to resolve it by redacting the individual's full real name from the page in question. Critically, DarkMatterMan4500 showed themselves to being responsive to my suggestion to improve the rest of the page in question by either (a) removing unsourced statements of fact or (b) adding citations to reliable sources for the same. So, even if you provided additional evidence, Stewards would merely engage with local administration to remedy any problematic pages. Dmehus (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, they have a "rule" that doesn't allow channels with less than 100K subscribers, yet there are articles about Peluchin an Ech0chamber despite having less than that. SPEEDYBEAVER  ( talk ) 12:40, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That could easily be resolved by either removing the rule or simply deleting the page on its own. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * From the standpoint of Stewards, we have zero interest in that concern. I'd suggest opening a discussion on the companion talk page. If the community agrees to amend that "rule," then it should be amended. Stewards would be concerned only if local bureaucrats refused to implement the prevailing community view without articulating a clear and valid reason for why it was not implemented (i.e., locally-provided veto authority, subject to certain limitations, of course). Dmehus (talk) 13:31, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * But, could you at least warn the admins? SPEEDYBEAVER  ( talk ) 14:21, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Please drop the stick. We're trying to resolve this issue. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:27, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The coup that happened today has been suppressed. —Mario Mario 456 16:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * And please note that DmitriLeon2000 has gotten his rights revoked due to not only abuse of permissions, but also for attempting to turn Rotten Websites Wiki into the new Atrocious YouTubers Wiki. We just couldn't let this continue. I have also blocked him as a result of this whole mess. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:51, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Coup? Oh dear, I click on this page and now I learn there was a coup on Rotten Websites Wiki. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 17:47, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, we cannot shut down any of the Qualitipedia wikis, as doing so would halt the rebrand. We would have to redesign the logos and everything. And if Rotten Websites Wiki gets shut down then Fresh Websites Wiki will also have to be shut down and the logos will have to be changed. Unfortunately, this rebrand is halfway done, as Horrible TV Show Episodes Wiki and Marvelous TV Show Episodes Wiki have both been merged and are now closed, and the logos have been changed. It is too late to go back. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 17:56, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Requesting a wiki?
Hi! I was trying to create a new wiki but was unable to do so. I got a message to contact the adminsitrators? Francesmiriam (talk) 20:07, 2 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Which one? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 20:08, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, were you trying Special:RequestWiki or Special:CreateWiki. Normal users like us don't have the permission to access Special:CreateWiki page but it is accessible by Wiki creators who create wikis after you request at Special:RequestWiki. In short, if you want to create a wiki, you can't do it yourself, you'll need to request it to be created at Special:RequestWiki and a wiki creator will respond shortly who will either decline or approve your wiki request. Hope that helps! ~ Mazzaz (talk)  03:06, 3 July 2021 (UTC)