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Vote
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have a question for you: should we have a wiki on here like the Wiki Gazetteer on FANDOM? Put your vote in the headings below! And remember to sign your posts with ~. Tali64³ (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes

 * 1) Why not? This would not be a bad idea for someone looking for a specific wiki. --Furricane (talk) 21:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) per  InspecterAbdel (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I strongly support this because we can find more specific wikis.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 21:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) I'm not opposed to this idea, in theory, and I do think that we need to rethink Gazetteer of wikis given that we have ~3,800 current wikis (which is too large for a single page). My main concern, which I expressed in declining the wiki request, was that this may suffer from lack of maintenance and timely updates. As well, by siphoning it away from Meta, we now have yet another wiki we have to somehow promote, so that sort of defeats the purpose of a gazetteer of wikis designed to promote customers' public wikis, doesn't it? Secondarily, I honestly think a better way to go about this is to add additional functionality and data output to the automated list, Special:WikiDiscover. That said, it's a good-faith idea, in theory and if well-maintained, so that is why I am expressing some support, albeit weak. Dmehus (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) I think this will help in finding wikis. Admittedly, there was once a list on Wikia, but we've dropped it. Onmp314 (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There are still two: the Wiki Wiki and the Wiki Gazetteer. Tali64³ (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

No

 * 1)  I don't see the need for an entire wiki like this. We already have a page here on meta, Gazetteer of wikis. And in all honesty, a page on meta will most likely be given more notice than another external wiki that some will never visit. As such I am opposing this idea. While a good thought I don't see the need for it. I mean if you want it, go for you, but I don't think it should be a community wiki at all.  15:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * There are wikis currently on Miraheze, too big to list on one page. An administrator could put a link to it on the main page. Tali64³ (talk) 16:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * We also have Special:WikiDiscover which lists every wiki on Miraheze. 14:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  if there were a lot of people to add entries for wikis with short descriptions that would work for me but right now I think that the Meta gazeteer is enough and is helpful. DeeM28 (talk) 07:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) A wiki for this is unnecessary, Gazetteer of wikis on Meta works fine. If there was a way to automate it with Special:WikiDiscover, I might rethink it, but otherwise this would likely get really outdated long-term. K599 (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) and I would like to note, wiki creations are at the sole discretion of wiki creators and global policy, and I view this as a way to circumvent a decline of mine. Thus, I also recommend a closure of this as not done. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 05:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) There is gazetteer of wikis. (But that alone may not fit.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waki285 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 2 December 2020‎ (UTC)
 * 6) I kind of think it's a good idea, but there'd be too many problems. Waldo (talk) 02:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
I think it's a fair enough idea but there are many ways to approach it and would need lots of maintenance and would probably create some form of conflict -Bayugoon (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

 * 1) I'm currently been slowly working on a similar idea over the past month or two just documenting wikis: the Wikiverse. dibbydib 23:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) As a Miraheze wiki creator, when this wiki truly passes through us for approval (I have recently accidentally approved this wiki sent in by, which due to the ongoing discussion and the incorrect subdomain is currently pending steward review for deletion), it is important for us to know when to approve the wiki and who will be creating it. Therefore, who will be the founding Bureaucrat of the wiki if it passes community discussion?  14:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * I would be the founder. Tali64³ (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * When having community discussions like these, who will be the founder is among what should be discussed. I believe who should be the founder should be among what is discussed here. Thanks! 02:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1) Relisting for another couple of weeks. Dmehus (talk) 05:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Relisting for another several weeks. Dmehus (talk) 11:42, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) For those of you who oppose this on the grounds that it would get outdated, if this proposal passes, I'm planning to make a bot that works with Special:WikiDiscover to add entries. Tali64³ (talk) 16:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

A new wiki for the website's community
The Miraheze Community Wiki is a wiki for the community so people can get to know each other and welcome each other. I know Meta does that, but I think we need a wiki for that stuff.

Support

 * 1) I think we need a wiki for this kind of thing InspecterAbdel (talk) 22:44, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) but not per any of the above or below, but because community noticeboard has become a catch-all for technical support questions, community discussions, and really anything. The organization is weak, and we could use a community wiki. I have no objections to it, but the main reason for my oppose  weak support here is because the purpose is somewhat vague and unclear. I appreciate  bringing this for a community discussion, though, and, since this wiki was simultaneously submitted for approval and created already, I think we should probably shift this wiki towards defining a clear purpose and terms of reference for its existence and the parameters by which the local   can be removed (via Community noticeboard) here on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)  Amended. Moved from weak oppose to weak support Dmehus (talk) 15:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I think we should have one since fandom has one. Plus it's subdomain is valuable too. AppleCrunchy (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) I really like to have a community wiki for new users to gather, although we have a Community noticeboard.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 17:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) . No, we don't need such a wiki.  This page ("community noticeboard") is exactly for this kind of thing.  I don't want to have to check both this page and a dedicated wiki to find out what is happening on the wiki farm, nor learn how such a wiki is organized.   04:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Spike. There is already not enough engagement and usage on Meta, so another wiki is really not what we need. We should focus on Meta. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) . We DO NOT need a community wiki is needed at this time. We already have this page, the community noticeboard, and Requests for Permissions, requests for global rights and requests for stewardship. It seems that it would serve the same service as as most of this meta wiki, and I just see no possible usage for this. I also agree with the comments that has made about having to go back and forth between meta and a community wiki. Sorry, it is just not going to work. --Furricane (talk) 15:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping you'll consider amending your !vote, per my comments above, as I really don't think 's goal was for this wiki to replace Meta. The problem with this request is that (a) the wiki shouldn't have been created without a community discussion (not, technically, a requirement, as far as I'm aware, but good practice) and (b) it should've had a clearer purpose, scope, and defined parameters, as we are doing with Dev Wiki and have done with Template Wiki and Miraheze Commons in the past. No community proposals or discussions, or even drafts of such proposals, would've occurred on this wiki. Rather, as I saw it (though vague and unclear), this wiki was meant to be a user collaboration and social connection wiki that would've actually sought to deepen community participation. Participation in this community wiki would've been completely voluntary and not participating would not have meant the user would "miss out" on important community discussions, as I don't think that was ever the intent behind 's good-faith proposal. Dmehus (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  I do not think another wiki is necessary for the community because for me Meta is the wiki for the community. DeeM28 (talk) 07:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  This is unnecessary, Meta already serves essentially the same purpose, and there's not really enough of that kind of "community" activity to need a separate wiki. K599 (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  After reading the first two oppose votes I agree with those users.  We should try to engage the community on Meta and we can be doing community oriented activities here.  Тишина (talk) 17:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 5)  I agree that the noticeboard is enough and if there was a whole wiki about the community it would be under used and it would require moving around instead of just looking at this one page Bayugoon (talk) 19:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Comments

 * I think the subject is not whether we need a community wiki or not, as we already have a community-centric wiki, but whether we need a miraheze-sanctioned community wiki.I think CN is sufficient, but it seems unusual for a topic to be set up for communication purposes, so someone may need to give an example. I found an image on ja.wiktionary.org showing the stroke order of my name, so it might be a good idea to post it, but it takes courage to be the first one. --松•Matsu (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 02:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 01:36, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Steward attention requested: This really should be closed. I already posted an updated proposal, and it was closed as a "duplicate" of this discussion. Justarandomliberal (talk) 16:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

A community Developers wiki
I have a proposition for the Miraheze community. For a while now I have been debating whether or not to create a developers wiki for Miraheze. Unlike the template wiki, this wiki will include CSS and JS scripts that anyone can import using, it will allow anyone who wants it to use scripts built by the community in their own wikis and/or in their own personal global or local JavaScript or CSS files. After consulting with on Discord, I decided to get the communities feedback and/or support on this idea, therefore what does the Miraheze community think of this idea? 22:53, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Yeah, though I don't think it's required to have a community discussion in this case, since it's going to be a community wiki for shared CSS and JavaScript files, among other things potentially, I thought it would be a good practice to have the discussion, especially if it proposes to use the name "Miraheze." Plus, I think it would be helpful for the community to (a) define the initial scope and purpose and (b) establish the founding bureaucrats for the wiki. From there, the local community can help to establish its local policies and further refine its purpose. In general terms, I support this as a community wiki as I think it is sufficiently different than the Template and Miraheze Bots + Tools wikis. I also think it could be useful at reducing the page load times of community-imported and -maintained user scripts, as opposed to always loading them from English Wikipedia and other wikis. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, some of that is part of my initial thoughts for the reasoning of the wiki. As for using the name Miraheze in it, I think it should be called Miraheze Developers Wiki or something similar. As for bureaucrats of the wiki, any candidate recommendations? And I think a community discussion for this is a good idea. It gives the community a way to give input, and their own unique ideas in it as well. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * As proposer I support this, but also because I know JS and CSS pretty well, and would love to have a wiki like this for the Miraheze community. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * This is a great idea for a new wiki. I think that by doing this, lots of new coding things could be enabled, including possibly global modules and gadgets. Great suggestion. I also have no concerns for this proposal. --Furricane (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, I do believe that a wiki like this could be greatly beneficial in the long run, or at least I hope it can be. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * I support this idea because not everyone can do custom CSS and (or) custom JS. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea for having a central place to import JS and CSS. K599 (talk) 20:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * per my comments above. Dmehus (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Good. Waldo (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * would be a nice place to ask questions with in that area Bayugoon (talk) 19:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Potential rename and/or expanded scope of Dev Wiki
asked me a few days, or perhaps a week, ago if I had posted in this discussion thread about the potential renaming and expanded scope for Dev Wiki yet. Other tasks took priority, but seeing as this thread was due to be archived in the next day or so, I wanted to get this done. So, I'm going to ping those that participated above and those who participated in the discussion on potential name ideas/expanded scope on Discord.

So, the question is...given that the  subdomain implies broader usage by and for developers beyond just CSS and JavaScript scripts,  and I (did I forget anyone, ?) basically toyed around with a number of potential new names and subdomains, the top three of which is identified below:


 * 1) Retain   and expand the scope, or allow the community, via a future community noticeboard discussion to expand the scope at some point in the future;
 * 2) Rename subdomain to , which would be roughly in line with the current purpose and scope, but open to possibilities later (again, the community would retain the right modify the scope via a community noticeboard discussion); or,
 * 3) Rename subdomain to , with a narrow scope; limits us in the future, but entirely accurate; it's not too bad, as we could easily create a separate dev later, though we should reserve that subdomain in the blacklist)

Since didn't participate in the Discord discussion and since this doesn't require any advanced rights to close, I nominate him to assess the consensus and close this discussion in a week or two. --Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of RhinosF1 as closer
, please indicate if you would be willing to close this discussion after 1-2 weeks (depending on the weather-related impacts to U.S. eastern seaboard residents).

Additionally, can I get a seconder to second this nomination? (Thought we could probably safely skip a full vote on nominating an uninvolved closer.)


 * Accepted:  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominated closer)
 * Moved: Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominator)
 * Seconded: 02:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 13:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks, plus the duration set by the hidden wikicomment at the end of this thread. Dmehus (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Voting and Vote Tabulation Instructions
You are encouraged to express first and second choices in your !vote. Please do so by indicating, in your !vote for each proposal, whether it is your first or second choice. If no proposal achieves more than 50% of the valid !votes cast, the proposal with the least number of first choice !votes will be dropped, and those users' second choices will then be allocated accordingly, and the results retabulated in a second count.

Support

 * 1)   02:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 2)  as first choice, since the community remains overall authority over this wiki in terms of its   removal (as may be required) and in terms of redefining, or broadening, its scope. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  I think there is no need to rename. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  Looks nice, and is easy to understand. K599 (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I like this idea as well, but it feels like it has other non-computer science-related use cases (i.e., for an archival- or museum-type wiki). Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I also liked 's idea, as it is the most specific and clearly defines this wiki's current purpose, but, at the same time, it really does restrict a future broadening of this wiki's scope to include a broader array of wiki developer resources, for which the community retains the absolute authority to redefine this wiki's purpose via community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Collapsible elements no longer appear/function
(This is a repost from the original task posted on Phabricator)

On the Constructed Worlds Wiki for over a month now, the wiki's collapsible elements (show/hide function) has stopped working and no longer appear. The wiki utilizes several templates which rely on this function (namely navboxes) and has forced us to manually expand each template in order to show their contents. We have asked for assistance on this issue before to be told that it can be resolved by fixing our common.css page's code. However, we have already tried multiple iterations from other wikis, including other Miraheze wikis, to test and see if the collapsible elements would re-appear to no success at all. Prior to the disappearance of the collapsible elements (which happened around November 8), we did not do any changes to the .css at all (it was last edited in 2018), the .js, or implement any wiki extensions which could have possibly caused this. We would like to resolve this issue because it has been a major quality of life problem.


 * Common.css page
 * Common.css history

Example of broken templates:
 * Template:Sierra (standard navbox with non-functioning collapsible option, forced to expand in code)
 * Template:Derzhavism sidebar (standard collapsible sidebar with non-functioning collapsible option, expanded automatically)

&#32;  centrist16 |  |   &#32; 14:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


 * @Centrist16 Try replacing any uses of the  class with  . I see that Module:Navbox has a line with , so changing that to   should work. K599 (talk) 16:39, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, your suggested edit worked! The only issue which remains is that the collapsible sidebars still do not work (perhaps there is something in the sidebar module with a similar problem?). &#32; Miraheze Logo.svg centrist16 | P mail.svg | Discord color D.svg  &#32; 20:27, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * @Centrist16 Try replacing the code for  in your MediaWiki:Common.js with the   code in w:MediaWiki:Common.js, since the collapsible sidebars appear to use  . K599 (talk) 21:51, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No luck unfortunately. &#32; Miraheze Logo.svg centrist16 | P mail.svg | Discord color D.svg  &#32; 04:03, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you have any other suggestions possibly? &#32; Miraheze Logo.svg centrist16 | P mail.svg | Discord color D.svg  &#32; 09:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I apologize, please disregard my ping. It appears to have finally worked! Thank you! :) &#32; Miraheze Logo.svg centrist16 | P mail.svg | Discord color D.svg  &#32; 09:16, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Link removal
How do I get rid of the beta features and links to watchlists in the upper right corner of the site in my personal common.css?--虎之介 (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC) 虎之介 (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Tell me as soon as possible the "# pt-darkmode-link" part to remove the link to the watchlist or beta so that you can do # pt-darkmode-link {display: none;} when removing the dark mode link.--虎之介 (talk) 13:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

How to change the site name in template stub?
I've exported Template:Stub from sdiy.miraheze.org and imported it into simpleelectronics.miraheze.org. However the stub message on simpleelectronics.miraheze.org retains "Synth DIY Wiki", (e.g. Resistors). How to change it to "Simple Electronics Wiki"? Rob Kam (talk) 21:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Does  from this help page not work? Dmehus (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No, that's already set to "Simple Electronics Wiki". Rob Kam (talk) 21:33, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The sitename correctly appears for me. Please consider clearing your browser cache and trying again. R4356th (talk) 21:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus has fixed it by editing Module:Asbox, (thanks). Rob Kam (talk) 22:02, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, great. :) R4356th (talk) 22:12, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikibase extension issue.
Hello. I have the WikibaseClient and WikibaseRepository extensions on my wiki. Now the problem is that I can't create new properties. Why? Yes I can create new items, but I don't use them in properties. Yes. --Anton (talk) 00:01, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Edittools
Tell me: Why doesn't the MediaWiki page MediaWiki:Edittools work correctly? I insert the code as here: uk.wikis.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools   Usik 64   обговорення  12:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * First, thank you for posting question for the wider community to examine on community noticeboard. Second, please only post screenshots where they are helpful and relevant at explaining your question. A screenshot with no specific, articulated question is just a screenshot. In this case, you've noted your ShoutWiki (where MediaWiki:Edittools works), but you haven't noted your Miraheze wiki(s) (where it doesn't work). So, if you could please note that, it would be helpful. Additionally, it would also be helpful if you could note any possible problems you think it may be (i.e., with the code), or solutions you've tried. Finally, you still haven't replied to my answer here and here, so can you please advise if you have read and understood the recommendations of those replies? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki has an extension panel that works with the CharInsert tag. This allows you to insert sections of code (individual tags, section headings, templates, symbols) by simply left-clicking on the active blue icon. It seems that on Mirahez this extension (CharInsert) does not work, so in MediaWiki: Edittools when switching to edit mode, all these elements are inactive (displayed in black).   Usik 64   обговорення  16:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you&mdash;this is exactly the kind of more helpful information and context you can prove. I'm certain we do have the CharInsert extension, but I know for a fact that MediaWiki:Edittools does work, as, in fact, had me do this very thing on TestWiki at mh:test:MediaWiki:Edittools. Likely if you're using VisualEditor, it may not work, so you may need to switch your personal preferences (on your wiki) to use the standard WikiEditor. I've pinged her on this thread, so there's no need to message her at her user talk page. She or someone else should reply to this thread within a day or two, typically. Please remember we're all volunteers here and patience is a virtue. Dmehus (talk) 16:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, let it be. So far, thank you   Usik 64   обговорення  16:10, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hrm, so is your question resolved? Or, would you like continued replies and assistance? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:13, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Everything works properly on the test wiki test.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools   Usik 64    обговорення  16:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Patience in anticipation is a virtue. Your words?   Usik 64   обговорення  16:20, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. Just a reminder because I found your response above a little rude, we are all volunteer here and we can only responds when we have time so be patient and if you have a other question, you can always ask it here on Community noticeboard as you will have other people that can respond to your question than asking directly on other users talk pages. :)
 * And for respond to your question, you should enable CharInsert on Special:ManageWiki/extensions on your wiki and copy/paste the fix for your "Edittools" based on the current revision that should work on your wiki here after enabling extension (removing  tag as that will invalidate your   tag). Hope that's helpful! :) HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 19:06, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I can't give rude or gentle answers. Because I use the technical translator Google. From Ukrainian to English. Google translates without emotion.
 * On the topic. I changed the edit panel. He described the order of change in the article quite extensively . https://ukrwikies.miraheze.org/wiki/Довідка/Розширення_панелі_редагування . However, in Ukrainian.   Usik 64    обговорення  17:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Russian-speaking or Ukrainian-speaking helpers
Please: help find in Mirageze active Russian-speaking or Ukrainian-speaking helpers   Usik 64    обговорення  16:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, maybe you can find someone you need at Category:User by language of Babel Extension. --开炸弹车 (talk) 03:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

A proposal regarding the now abandoned Miraheze Community Wiki
I'd like to propose we turn the now defunct Miraheze Community Wiki into a general community hangout, in addition to, but not replacing, Meta Wiki (this one). Miraheze has gotten bigger since the last proposal, and it's about time we have a general hangout. Filing a request for adoption to go with this proposal... Justarandomliberal (talk) 15:04, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think all discussion should be in one place. Meta does not need a companion for its community. Instead all community discussion should be here, in Meta's Community Noticeboard; as for non-Miraheze discussion, I believe they are just fine on user talk pages. R4356th (talk) 15:38, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * From my understanding, user talk pages on meta are used for Mirahezians to collaborate on Miraheze, not to hangout. Justarandomliberal (talk) 15:42, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * This appears to be a duplicate of a discussion above related to the same wiki. R4356th (talk) 15:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Steward attention requested: The so called discussion that this is duplicating had it's last reply on November 1st, and is therefore inactive, and should probably be closed as such. Justarandomliberal (talk) 15:51, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Justarandomliberal We could close it, yes; however, it ended up being outstanding so long that it's now only about a month away from deletion per Dormancy Policy, so there's not really the urgency. Dmehus (talk) 16:09, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. Justarandomliberal (talk) 16:10, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Justarandomliberal Looks like you did that, so that's great. This seems to be more or less ✅ then. Dmehus (talk) 16:13, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yep, resolved. I made an adoption request for this proposal, so I that request. Justarandomliberal (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Is there any way to get users' edit counts into Module?
Hello, we have ever used a Widget called UserScoreLevel in NMFWiki. It can be gotten one's edit count by extension Editcount, and show the level of one from Level One to Level One Hundred. But with the issue of Widgets, it could not work at all because of the disabling of the Widget extension.

Then we try using other extensions to realize the same effect. But all the attempts failed. I would like to use Module, but the most main problem is that I cannot get the counts into it as the extension Editcount's outputs can not be parameter for input.

So, is there any way to get users' edit counts into Module?

Excuse my terrible English.

--开炸弹车 (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

SEO Issues
For some reason, the descriptions of articles are not appearing properly in search engines, for example this article in Google. Rather than the description of the article, it shows the description of Miraheze. This could create SEO problems. Please let me know if you can help, and if you feel it is easier to do it yourself, feel free to do so. By the way, the wiki in question is Ingenpedia. You can see more details at this diff. Thanks in advance, Integer (talk) 19:48, 10 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I have noticed that you have enabled the Add HTML Meta and Title and WikiSEO extensions. However, you are not utilising them on that page. You should add parser tags for them following the documentation on MediaWiki.org. I hope this helps. R4356th (talk) 20:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, good point. Yeah, I suggested using one of those extensions, but didn't look into whether the tags were used on a specific page(s) or not. Can the tags be added to MediaWiki:Common.css, perhaps, so they don't need to be added to every page? I'm not quite sure how either extension works. Dmehus (talk) 20:02, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find the proper tag for either extension here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parser_extension_tags. Integer (talk) 20:34, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You are looking at the wrong page, Click both of the links I gave in my reply above. You can create templates for this if you do not want the description and other SEO-related stuff to be different on every single page. It is safe to do it for keywords, I believe. R4356th (talk) 20:53, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So I can use a tag from either one of those extensions? Either way, if it would be possible, it would be great to not have to put the tags on each page. Is there a way to set a default amount of words, and some type of title to automatically get set? Integer (talk) 20:57, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, it really depends on you. Do you have a basic understanding of SEO? If not then I recommend doing a little bit of research regarding this to understand what suits your need. R4356th (talk) 21:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, I can try. Hopefully I will find something. Integer (talk) 21:02, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Honestly, if I could get it to just be like Wikipedia's SEO, it'd be great. Integer (talk) 21:06, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I do not know how Wikipedia does that. But as I mentioned earlier, you could make templates. R4356th (talk) 21:11, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for so many questions, but do you have some examples or some sort of idea on how I could start making these templates? It would make the job much easier. Integer (talk) 21:15, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe that R4356th meant by creating templates is to create like a basic template that you would, presumably, insert at the top of every article page, or any page where you want to optimize search engine search results. It would just be a matter of creating template parameters for, say, ,  , etc., that would be inserted into the relevant   tags. Hope that helps. It's too bad, though, that this has to be done on every page, and couldn't be set globally. Dmehus (talk) 21:40, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. Thanks anyway. Integer (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, please follow Dmehus's suggestion. R4356th (talk) 22:16, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Subtitle
Can any admin please tell me that how I can add subtitle to the articles and pages in my wiki Gyaanipedia?

--Shaunak Chakraborty (talk) 05:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Shaunak Chakraborty Please note I have procedurally moved this request from Administrators' noticeboard to community noticeboard, where it is now in scope, as this can be answered by anyone, not just a Meta administrator. A Miraheze community member should respond shortly, I suspect. Dmehus (talk) 06:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That on Wikipedia has to do with the local extension Wikibase, if you don't have that on your wiki then you either can't do it or have to some other way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabelöga (talk • contribs) 21:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * To add to what Sabelöga said, you can enable the Wikibase extension in Special:ManageWiki/settings (on your wiki, of course). Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:52, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Login problem
Is there a page on common login problems/solutions? I looked in Help and FAQ, didn't see one.

I find that our users' most persistent problems are usually just getting past the first successful login. Also since our Wiki is a reference resource, people access it sporadically and they often forget/misplace credentials.

I know that there have been some changes awhile back that required some folks to dump their browser's cache; I tried that with a user this morning but without success.

As always, much thanks for the awesome service the folks at Miraheze provide. Chuck.Beckett (talk) 19:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the question, and for your suggestion(s). Do you mean that it would be useful for us to have a general help page on Meta Wiki related to common login problems not addressed in FAQ, or do you mean that a specific user is having problems logging in? If the former, certainly, we could create such a page, though there is also Help:Logging in on MediaWiki.org, which contains an array of freely licensed, public domain MediaWiki help pages. We're also planning on splitting FAQ into separate frequently asked question pages, sub-arranged by topical focus / area. In the interim, though, are there any common questions and proposed solutions you recommend adding to FAQ? If the latter, can you provide a few more details on the exact error the user is receiving? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:16, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply Dmehus. I was suggesting a Meta Wiki help page, particularly for any issues specific to miraheze, but I may have not adequately searched the existing help.  Thanks for the links.  I'll go thru the MediaWiki help pages. What I'm seeing is users who can't log in with the temporary password the Wiki sends them when I create their account.  I think it would be more helpful all around if I were to provide more specific observations to diagnose my problems so I'll start taking notes as we onboard more users.  Perhaps it's just user error and/or new bureaucrat error :-) Chuck.Beckett (talk) 01:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Twitter widget not working?
I have the widgets extension enabled on my wiki and I've been using the Twitter extension for a couple years now without issue, but today I noticed it was broken, it only showed the text/code for it. I haven't changed anything else that would've broken it and recopied the twitter widget code just to be safe. Did Miraheze disable it? Polyrhythm (talk) 04:34, 13 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Yup, see 2020-12-23 Security Disclosure. I'll be around tomorrow to see if I can help you find an alternative. -- Void  Whispers 04:46, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah I figured it was something like that. I'd definitely love an alternative so thanks in advance! Polyrhythm (talk) 12:11, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * @Polyrhythm You can enable the TwitterTag extension to embed Twitter timelines. Instructions are on this page. K599 (talk) 20:26, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That worked, thank you! Polyrhythm (talk) 02:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Template:Graph:Street map with marks
Something happened to this template which is making it not work. That is affecting several pages throughout the wiki. Any help would be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KheeraAnda (talk • contribs) 14:23, 13 January 2021‎ (UTC)

Add the Visual Editor!
Add the Visual Editor. It is needed for beginner editors. And it's more simple. This means adding it to User Pages. I already know it's technically added. SoyokoAnis (talk) 16:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you mean adding VisualEditor on your wiki, or on Meta? If the former, this can be added and configured in ManageWiki on your wiki. If the latter, I would have no problem extending visual editing mode to  namespace as there's a clear use case, so I will ping  to see if he concurs. Dmehus (talk) 16:58, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah! Great idea because it could be applied to all pages. SoyokoAnis  14:50, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * And I meant on Meta. SoyokoAnis  14:51, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Problem with ArticleRatings extension
Hello. On my wiki Queenpedie I've turned on ArticleRatings extension (using Special:ManageWiki/extensions), I've created MediaWiki:Are-ratings, which is page needed to make the extension working (it defines rating levels) – that page seems OK for me – and I think, that in this moment the extension should be able work. However, when I try to rate the article using Special:ChangeRating/, it shows me the message "Ratings has been disallowed for this namespace". I've tried several namespaces, and the same thing happens every time. The help in mediawiki.org, already referenced, states that the namespaces where this extension will work can be managed using. And now the question: How and if I get to this file at all? I have no idea where to find it. Can someone please advise me? Thank you very much, best regards --Robins7 (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Currently working to add this configuration option to Special:ManageWiki/namespaces, it should be there soon. -- Void  Whispers 22:04, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. I hope it will be soon and that it will work. Robins7 (talk) 19:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)