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I want to add a CodeMirror extension to this wiki
I would like this wiki to introduce CodeMirror Extensions with. Reason ... It's hard to see when writing in wiki text. This tool can be turned on and off at any time by the individual user. Waki285 (talk) 03:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


 * First, thank you for this suggestion, which I have procedurally moved from community noticeboard to here, where it is now notionally in scope, as I can actually see a good use case for enabling CodeMirror on Meta Wiki. At the same time, I believe Universal Omega has also enabled it on his DC Multiverse Wiki together with VisualEditor. Generally speaking, we should probably leave this discussion open for approximately 3-5 calendar days or so, to encourage anyone else to express an opinion, and then I'll reach out to the steward bureaucrat John to effect this change. Thanks again. Dmehus (talk) 04:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * With no objections from anyone in more than a week, this is ✅ as it's a reasonable request. Dmehus (talk) 22:32, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Please specify Category Pages as the translation target
Please specify Category:Stewards as the translation target.--Waki285 (talk) 05:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Sabelöga (talk) 05:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If you like, you can also prepare the rest of the categories in Category:Global user groups to be consistent. Sabelöga (talk) 05:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please also Template:Update. Waki285 (talk) 04:05, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm less familiar with translatable templates, but this does seem fine to me, so ✅. I assume you'll need to use it conjunction with TNT, correct? Dmehus (talk) 04:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, otherwise the translations tags will show on the target page ;) --Sabelöga (talk) 06:16, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Removing my flag
With my recent successful election to steward, I really do not require the  flag on Meta Wiki, so if any Meta bureaucrat could kindly remove the flag for me, that would be great.

Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 01:47, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * unless you’re resigning the relevant rights. Steward is not a permission to supersede local rights. John (talk) 01:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . Though you and I ended up having a conversation on IRC, I felt that it would be important for me to clarify on-wiki the intent behind my unusually brief request. Indeed, I know that the steward role is not a substitute for local user groups, but was mainly wondering whether a Meta bureaucrat would be able to provide me a local authorization to use the user rights as part of the Meta interface administrator user group (since that group itself is a discretionary appointment). Following my conversation with you, while that could be done in theory, in practical terms, from the sounds of it, there exists no local policy on providing for this delegation. Perhaps that's a local discussion the Meta Wiki community could have at some point, defining the user rights the global groups may use and under what conditions they may use them regardless of whether the local user groups are also held. At any rate, following your suggestion, I'll hang onto the user group for the time being. Thanks again. Dmehus (talk) 22:52, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Update list of current stewards at Stewards
Since Dmehus is now a steward, may a Meta administrator update the list at Stewards? Justarandomliberal (talk) 03:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I will try and have all the user group lists updated later this evening. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 03:30, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This has been ✅ by . If you ever see minor inconsistencies between the user list subpages, please don't hesitate to make the update(s) yourself, taking care to leave a clear edit summary and, optionally, linking to a relevant permalink/diff in said edit summary. Thanks again for your reporting this, and for your community contributions. Dmehus (talk) 17:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is unfortunately, ❌. List of Stewards has not been updated yet. R4356th (talk) 20:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * And I cannot edit that page since it is protected. :( R4356th (talk) 20:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I didn't even know that List of Stewards existed, actually. It looks like it existed prior to Stewards/List being created, so I've simply ✅ in the revisions prior to today, since the wikitable was broadly similar to that at Stewards/List, and now is appropriately credited as page creator of Stewards/List. So, now ✅. Dmehus (talk) 21:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. R4356th (talk) 21:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Dmehus (talk) 21:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I have destroyed User:Lily/global.js
I did not realize that I was in metawiki when I moved my global.js and edited the redirect link, now I cannot edit the page because it redirects to a page outside user namespace. Pls delete the page, so I can restore my old global.js, thank you very much Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 14:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I've moved it back to the original page. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 14:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Greetings LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 15:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note that I have procedurally moved this request from stewards' noticeboard to Administrators' noticeboard. Basically, Administrators' noticeboard is the venue for any requests about users or pages on Meta that requires administrator intervention]], local, small-ish community proposals, and local discretionary appointment permissions requests granted by either a local administrator or bureaucrat. Community noticeboard is technical support questions regarding your wiki, small-ish global community proposals, questions about Miraheze or MediaWiki generally, and requests to add interwiki prefixes to your wiki. Stewards' noticeboard is basically for anything requiring steward attention that isn't handled elsewhere on other related noticeboards (i.e., requests for adoption). Hope that helps. Glad the issue was ✅, too. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Unassigned user right
I noticed that the steward user group is able to view the number of page watchers of a given page on Meta Wiki, something the local Meta administrators cannot do, presumably because the user right  is unassigned locally. It's included within the  and   global groups, but not any local user groups. On TestWiki, we have it assigned to the  user group and, indeed, on English Wikipedia, they, too, have assigned it to the   user group, though interestingly, the number of page watchers is still visible to non-administrators on that wiki, so that suggests, perhaps, there's some sort of additional configuration change we'd need to make? Nevertheless, as I can see a use case for Meta administrators, or even all users, potentially, being able to see the number of page watchers of a given page, I'd like to add the  user right to either (a)   or, perhaps, (b)   and   maybe? As Meta Wiki is rather unique in its management structure in that it is a steward-managed wiki with local Meta bureaucrats managing the closing of local permissions requests, RfCs, and Meta community discussions at AN, I thought I'd post this idea here to see if anyone had any objections to me making this change? Though local bureaucrat approval is not likely required, since it does affect the the user rights of Meta administrators, feedback from any Meta bureaucrats is of particular interest to me. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 13:59, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no objections to this and think it was likely an oversight. Sysops on EnWiki also have the right, and I don't see why sysops here on Meta shouldn't. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 14:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * With the endorsement of local Meta Wiki bureaucrat and no objections from anyone in more than two days, this is now ✅. Meta administrators can now view , something that was most likely an inadvertent oversight. Dmehus (talk) 22:41, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Request for Enabling Extensions Report and EditCount
The Report extension will allow registered users to report revisions privately to sysops (default, can be changed). And sysops will be able to review the reports from Special:HandleReports. I think this will be helpful for fighting vandalism and sharing private information with admins. said that he would propose it for enabling here on the Phabricator task for installing this on Miraheze and on Discord. EditCount will implement a special page for showing users' local edit count allowing users to transclude their edit count in their signatures. This extension is not very important but would be good, in my opinion. R4356th (talk) 17:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I would have no objection to these extensions be enabled on Meta Wiki as they're both either useful or small, but will wait to see if either of have any thoughts, so will give it a few days before enabling. My only concern with the Report extension is whether or not that extension will create a new   user group and overwrite the existing   group. If not, that is to say, if the extension first checks if an existing group exists prior to overwriting and creating, then I have no concerns. Dmehus (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It adds a new user right called  which is assigned to Sysops by default (but as I mentioned earlier, it can be changed). R4356th (talk) 17:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, my mistake...I was thinking of Patroller, which I haven't requested be installed on Miraheze yet&mdash;still debating whether to request it, but may file a Phabricator task in a few weeks. I'll wait until at least adds a comment, giving his blessing to Meta administrators having no opposition to having that added user right. Dmehus (talk) 17:35, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think EditCount should be fine to enable and may be useful. As for Report, I'm not sure how useful it would be to us really, but I don't object to us giving it a try and if it doesn't work out disabling it afterwards. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 07:35, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Considering Report might turn out to be problematic if there are spam reports or new users mistakenly using it, do you think community consensus is necessary here? R4356th (talk) 07:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a potentially valid question, but considering that Meta administrators are the only ones that would be viewing the special page, I would say no, actually. And actually, that would be a stronger argument against requiring a formal community proposal to enable the extension, as we want to be able to disable the extension quickly if it were misused. I see no problem trying it out, as the use case for this would be for Meta patrollers to report problematic revisions requiring revision deletion (i.e., editor who logged out or grossly defamatory or insulting comments, etc.), since revision deletion requests can't simply be tagged with delete like page deletion requests. Since administrators are the only users that can see the reports, this is an ideal way to report such requests. Plus, creating a new thread at Administrators' noticeboard for every grossly defamatory or insulting revision requiring deletion is a bit much, in my opinion (though reporting revisions of users who likely edited while logged out would normally be reported privately; however, since administrators are the only ones that can see the page, this is a reasonable reporting avenue). Dmehus (talk) 13:44, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that I don't think there's much harm in at least trying it out and seeing if it works for us, it could be an interesting tool for us. If it doesn't, it can be quickly removed as Dmehus says. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 15:58, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * okay, great. R4356th (talk) 16:35, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * With that, this is now ✅. Dmehus (talk) 22:50, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! R4356th (talk) 09:57, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Enabled the Purge extension on Meta Wiki
Hi everyone,

As Meta Wiki has somewhat of a unique governance structure in that it is a Steward-managed wiki, with Meta bureaucrats overseeing such things as local Meta community proposals and RfCs and stewards managing most other aspects of the wiki, I have enabled the Purge extension by way of this log action, and am providing this courtesy notification to the Meta Wiki community of this action. For one thing, I am constantly having to alter my web address by adding  to the end of the URL, so having a purge link in the "More" tab would be quite helpful. Additionally, most or all of the Wikimedia wikis have this extension enabled. The extension's documentation recommends assigning the  user right to registered, logged in users, to prevent search engine crawlers from crawling purge links and adding to server load. I have verified with this special page that this indeed the configuration. Though unlikely to bring any objections, should the Meta Wiki community have any thoughts on this, this thread would be the place to do it. Dmehus (talk) 03:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Request to delete my Meta user page
Hello, I would like to delete my Meta user page, so that I could create a global user page in the Login wiki instead. JasonHK (talk) 14:41, 16 December 2020 (UTC)