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First User Permission Error
Good day,

I am the first user on my newly created wiki, and I keep getting a permission error and cant do anything. Is there something I've done wrong? Thanks!
 * this was handled on IRC if I recall correctly. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 18:35, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Does the size limit of importing XML file exist?
I tried to import XML file on a wiki using the tool special:import. However, the file size(of course XML file) was about 10MB and importing data failed. I wonder what the limit size of file for uploading XML file using "special:import" is. 10MB is too big to upload by using the "import" tool. --Utolee90 (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a limit but IIRC 10 MB should not be an issue. Can you provide any information about the import? Specifically important might be where the xml file came from (wiki it was exported from), the date and time it failed, and any errors that may have been displayed to you, or what made you think it failed. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:21, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your answer. When I checked again, it uploaded sucessfully. However, I should try to import three times to upload fully because the importing consumed a lot of time and even halted with "504 timeout error message". Actually I tried to import an XML file with size about 100MB containing datas of dozens of articles a month ago, but the importing failed at all, even uploading a SINGLE edition.
 * I forgot to log in. This is me, utolee90. --Utolee90 (talk) 00:11, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The 504 errors are probably mostly unrelated (cause wise), but would definitely cause it to fail. Unfortunately it's known that it was happening a lot. Glad you got it working though. Any time you see one of those errors, just try it again. If you keep getting the error very frequently, leave us another note here with detailed information. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 03:44, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Getting permission error
Hello! I requested and was given a wiki last week (thanks!), but I cant seem to be able to do anything. Every time I try and upload an image, edit my user preferences, or click any links on the main page, I get a permissions error that says:

Permission error You do not have permission to read this page, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Administrators, member.

Further, I see that I have a notification alert. When I click the icon, it says "Could not retrieve notifications. Please try again. (Error readapidenied)"
 * Handled via IRC iirc (same as above). -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 18:35, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Change Username (Done)
My name AYST201 I want to simply name to "TriX" because to easy remember and easy to write or call. Thank you. — AYST201 Message!   05:39, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This is done, please login using your new username and the same password as before. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 19:39, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you NDKilla :)

— TriX Message!   21:39, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Message from RDsupport
Hi,

I requested a wiki yesterday for our organization and am not sure the request went through. I also was just joining Miraheze and thought maybe I had to have membership status to start a wiki. Please let me know if the wiki is in process or not.

Thanks!

Kind Regards,

Mark

RDsupport (talk) 15:32, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I've created your wiki. You can access it here. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:41, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

wiki request #826
hi, i did the wiki-request #826 (and accidentially as well #830, since i wasnt sure wether i really pressed the "request" button or not). i see that meanwhile many other wikis are approved, while my request (and some others) keep being in review. my question is if i can anyhow speed up the process by answering questions you may have, or what are your regulations for granting/denying wikis? not that im overly urgent, but i did check for other hosts meanwhile, appearantly miraheze is the only one allowing users full control, and installing MW somewhere on a webserver isnt something i seem to be capable of for im no coding expert, so appearantly miraheze is the thing im waiting for. is there anything i can do to help you in your decisionmaking? those "bookauthors" are hp. blavatski, a. besant and cw. leadbeater, they are meanwhile all public domain. the "philosophical line" is called theosophy, but we are rather into a kind of derivate of that original line. if that helps... thanks in advance!
 * Hi, I have created the wiki at the URL you requested. Sorry for the delay. John (talk) 17:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * thanks alot, and no worries, im glad youre there ;))  ~a student

== another message from User:RDsupport Hi,

Thanks so much for setting up our wiki. We're excited to get started with it. I'd like to invite people to the wiki but don't see any info on users or invitations, etc. Can you help with that?

Thanks,

Mark RDsupport (talk) 19:47, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


 * just link users to your wiki. If it is a public wiki, anyone may view the link and register for an account ("create account" in the top right corner). If the wiki is private they can still create an account but can only read the main page. After they register for an account you would have to edit their user rights to make them members. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:09, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Please either edit your existing sections, or use 'add topic' in the top-right corner. I didn't even realize that your message wasn't related to the section it was in at first. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:00, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Comments from Members
I edited my main page and added a page under Discussion: https://cec.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page

However, I don't see any links that members would follow to comment on this page or section. Is that something that you guys have to add manually? If so, can you add that please? I appreciate your help!

RDsupport (talk) 16:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There is an "Add Section" button, which let's them comment. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 16:26, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * most discussions (such as this current one) are just wikitext. The users would have to just type on that page like this, and preferably use indentation and signatures. For the ways of discussion-board type conversations, there's not really much, but Flow is an option that can be enabled, and could convert all talk pages into flow boards such as this one. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This page might help you. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:39, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I like the way the flow boards look! Can you please enable that?  Also I'm trying to add a user Apuzzio as an admin for this wiki.  I did a search and couldn't find her.  How do I add her?  Sorry for all the questions.  I haven't used a wiki like this before.

(reset indent) I'll enable flow on your wiki in the near future, but could you please request it here? If I enable it, it may be impossible to go back to wiki-markup style talk pages in the future. Also, to add that users as administrators in the future, follow these instructions:
 * Step 1: Navigate to their userpage
 * Either click on a link to their user in contributions, recent changes, or go to ListUsers on your wiki
 * Step 2: Click "user rights management" in the side bar on the left while on their userpage
 * Step 3: Check the box next to 'Administrator' on the rights management page, type a reason, and submit changes
 * -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 00:28, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Database errors on poserdazfreebies (handled)
There's a database error on poserdazfreebies that is causing page-loading problems. Instead of page content, I'm seeing:

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. * Function: DatabaseBase::selectRow * Error: 1146 Table 'poserdazfreebieswiki.pagetriage_page' doesn't exist (185.52.1.77)

I do see the categories that the pages have.

This is happening on all pages in the Main namespace that I've tried loading in the last few minutes. Talk and Category pages load correctly.

--Robkelk (talk) 23:49, 24 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, this was most likely a side-effect of me enabling Extension:PageTriage on your wiki. This should be fixed, and the extension should now work. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 00:21, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, the wiki is back to normal operations. Thank you! --Robkelk (talk) 12:18, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Unblock request for development.mh.o
Could you please unblock me on development.miraheze.org, and oversight the edit summary SleepyMode used to block me ?

Also, if you can, please globally lock SleepyMode himself, as the edit summary he used would actually, possibly make the block illegal due to the summary itself (if you can't, at least please block him on development.miraheze.org; the block was nowhere near necessary, and was more like a block done to attack me than a block done for a good reason).

Lemondoge T C GC 21:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * He will most likely not be globally locked, nor will he be blocked from his own wiki (he could just unblock himself). I'm investigating your contributions there, and the behavior of you both. I may take actions against either of you, both of you, or neither of you, in my role as a Development Wiki Supervisor, or in my role as a Miraheze Steward. Any actions I take will clearly acknowledge what role the action is taken in, so that counter-actions and discussion may be done accordingly. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:26, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I've unblocked Lemondoge on the wiki as a result of this request but under the authority of my local powers, not in my role as a Steward. Also, the block reason will not be suppressed, but I will publicly state that I think all of the block reasons were blatant lies. Additionally, this should now be discussed on that wiki, not here. Thanks, -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * PS, pls discuss here. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Lemondoge T C GC 00:40, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Right, so I wasn't attacking you but watching your inter-wiki actions, and as you did it yourself, you should know It is allowed to block users when feels necessary. SleepyMode (talk) 07:06, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Re: above, Please discuss it on your wiki as this wasn't really a matter for Stewards. Also, it's still my personal belief they did nothing on any wiki that could have warranted any block described as being caused for 'interwiki behavior' -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:13, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

About reassigning user rights on certain usergroups
Actually I don't request reassigning user rights of certain usergroups now but I want to ask whether I can request changing userrights of certain groups from default settings or making new types of usergroups authorized by bureaucrats. (like making new usergroups such as Transwiki importers or adding the rights of deleting pages to Autopatrolled users, etc, NOT giving someone rights of admins). --Utolee90 (talk) 09:06, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, I have one more question: are there any options to change the authority of reading some pages for only autoconfirmed users or sysops? I found there is no option on "protecting pages" to limit the authority of reading certain pages. It is not directly related to "protecting" pages from abusing, but it might be useful to limit spreading secret informations for administrating wikis. --Utolee90 (talk) 09:23, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You can request new user-groups at Request features. See List of permissions for a list of permissions, most of which we can add to custom groups. As for protecting pages, I'd be happy to add a custom 'read protect' over at test wiki and see if it works at all, but MediaWiki is not really meant to be a CMS. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Permanent Future Lab Flow
Since December 2015 (mediawiki update) the flow extension (user friendly discussion board) is not working anymore at https://permanentfuturelab.wiki/wiki/. Southparkfan looked into that by https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122329, but it looks like it took a long time to fix or it is not able to fix. I like to ask of we can start flow from scratch, because also since december it was not possible anymore to add topics to flow. When a user submit a topic, it is not saved.--Jurjendevries
 * Hey there, you can collect a group of people and re-create flow, I'm unsure of the situation but I will do my best and try to remake it myself. SleepyMode (talk) 07:17, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay this sounds stupid now. I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure they mean just re-enabling flow and losing old flow boards because flow is currently not working on this wiki due to corruption. Flow already works in other places. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:12, 28 April 2016 (UTC) Yes, as NDKilla wrote. I remove everything about flow now, install it as a clean one again. Then I can test if it works again. Thanks. --Jurjendevries (talk) 13:13, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Some image files are broken when they displayed as thumbnails
I uploaded some files on wiki Libre Wiki using special:upload. However, the wiki fails to render some files on thumbnails, and I found a file broken on even its file page. I confirmed that it has uploaded sucessfully like this, so broken thumbnails are clearly displaying errors. I want to solve these problems when uploading. Should I inform these errors on Github issue tracker? Were these errors informed already? --Utolee90 (talk) 16:02, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I missed some infos... I should not inform on Github, but might inform on Phabricator... More explicitly, the message "Unable to open image" error code 1 appears. I am not sure why it occurs but Korean file name might cause errors when converting image files NOW...  --Utolee90 (talk) 16:16, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Works for me (I did nothing). Does it still happen to you? Southparkfan (talk) 19:35, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I've checked they display well. Thanks for informing. --Utolee90 (talk) 02:23, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Math formula fails to render again.
I edited help pages about using LaTex, but I found that the  tag cannot convert math formula codes into PNG file when I select the math formula appearance option as "PNG file" on my Preference settings. I reported this problem last month and once fixed, but this converting error often occurs when I write new math formulas using tag. I checked that math formulas once converted into PNG images successfully, do NOT cause rendering error again no matter how they are complicated. Probably only new math formula scripts cause errors. And here is an example of math formulas failed to convert PNG files. It's very serious... Almost all math formula scrips do not work well... --Utolee90 (talk) 10:50, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * And you may ignore the error message "Fails to parse (Unknown function)", like $$\require $$or "Fails to parse (Syntax error)" because there might be some grammatical difference. I want you to focus only on the error message "PNG Conversion failed;", like $$a \qquad b $$... --Utolee90 (talk) 10:55, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This is tracked at https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T262. Southparkfan (talk) 12:20, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Database dump for backup/migration
Just wondering what the database backup/migration policy is, and if wiki-owners can request a dump of the database for their wiki (and presumably associated files, assuming they are not stored as database objects)?