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Global lock request for Buytruefollowers and other spam-bots on the and/or other inactive wikis..
It is an apparent spam-bot as seen here, and there might be other spam-bots on there, and/or other inactive wikis like the ones on the Mad Gender Science Wiki. (Yes, that wiki again also.) I hope my report isn't much of a bother to you Stewards and/or Global Sysops if you are reading this message from me to you. Please have a look into this when you have time. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:29, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hopefully, someone will answer. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:03, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. There's definitely some dictionary-based mass account creations occurring on that wiki; however, as edit privileges are disabled to non-privileged users, they're mostly harmless, notwithstanding the ability for them to still edit their social profiles, which is another knock against that extension, to be honest. I had a quick look and didn't see too many spam only accounts that actually edited their user profiles. Nevertheless, there is some further investigating that could be done here to effect additional preventative measures, so I'll try and come back to this later. However, for now, I'm going to consider this request ✅, so that the bot can archive it in accordance with the specifications. Thank you for your report. Dmehus (talk) 06:30, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

GinaGiovanniello2001.....
Hey, remember when I mentioned something about GinaGiovanniello2001 creating a new account to start over? Well, the thing is..... GinaGiovanniello2001 has been creating WAY too many accounts that I've had to block over and over again. Here's a list of accounts she owns:
 * BellaJewelpet
 * RainbowKitty2002
 * RainbowKitty2001
 * Ra1nb0wK1tty101
 * CocoGirl2007
 * CocoGirl2004
 * CocoYoyo2001
 * KawaiiChan2001
 * KittyJewelpet74
 * MLPG3KawaiiGirl2001
 * KittyJewelpet

Here are some examples of her messing up a specific sandbox using these sockpuppets that I may not have listed in this report, but should not be exempted from being investigated: Diff #1, Diff #2 Diff #3 Diff #4. Also, please note that she did this on Mr. Dready's sandbox without his permission to do so.

And when you get a chance, have a look at her previous blocks, and you may or may not get the full picture right away. I've had just about enough of her persistently creating sockpuppet after another even after she was blocked. has more knowledge about her than I do, as she has done something quite similar on other wikis aside from the  and the   as well.

I would list the rest of them, but all they do is make nearly exactly the same amount of edits as GinaGiovanniello2001. Instead of me just simply going over what she did wrong, (with the exception of messing up a specific page, and stealing from other users), I'm expressing my concern that she's been creating way too many accounts for me to even count. I've lost count of how many she made (considering she has made a rip-off of one of our wikis on FANDOM, although, it's not exactly directly connected to Miraheze in anyway, but it's just an example.) Furthermore, if you were to ask either me or DeciduousWater534 on the matter, you may reach out to either one of us, and we should be able to answer it. I'd like to request a global lock on not only her original account, but also the remaining sockpuppets she has. Thanks for listening to what I had to say here. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:45, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Welp, looks like I found 1 more sockpuppet to add.
 * OjamajoCure DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:46, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Thank you for your report. While it's indeed a bit odd that the user would edit the sandbox of a locally blocked user, they may have done a search for that particular television series, character, or other plot element, and proceeded to edit it regardless of the namespace in which it is in. As to the other diffs, I'm not really seeing how they would be narrowly and globally construed as blatant vandalism. They largely look like constructive editing. So, really, I see two things here. Firstly, I see a lack of discussion of edits. Secondly, I see a lack of edit summaries. So I don't really see anything that warrants locking these accounts as vandalism only accounts when they've all been locally blocked for various reasons. It's up to you and your wikis whether you leave their user talk open, but you might consider advising them of user accounts policy, and how to correctly appeal their blocks. In terms of user accounts policy, there are several similar usernames, so they could well be related to two or three users, but I'm not seeing how they're all potentially related to the user referenced in the section header? Dmehus (talk) 18:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Most of the usernames include a year in the 2000s, are girly sounding in general, and include two different words that are styled LikeThis. If you look at the contributions of the accounts on Best TV Shows Wiki, you will see that the edits across the accounts mostly focus on shows for girls or little kids, with a bunch of these pages made by GinaGiovanniello2001. I don't mean to sound desperate, but she'll just keep coming back until her accounts are locked and her IP address is globally blocked. There's no need for us to just keep on blocking them and continue having something unnecessary to the admins' plate on the wikis, how hard/time consuming can it be just to do a CheckUser? --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I've blocked more of them. I wish it was possible for Void to perform a CU to prevent abuse on our wikis from re-occurring. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:55, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * As I said above, it's possible that there has been some abuse user accounts policy; however, I'm not convinced that any abuse is limited to only one user, based on the evidence you've presented. Additionally, from the diffs I have examined, I haven't really seen what would constitute blatant vandalism for the purposes of locking any of the accounts as vandalism only accounts. I'll try and take a closer look through all of the accounts in the next day or two, unless John, Void, or NDKilla want to take a closer look before then. Dmehus (talk) 18:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, especially since all 3 of them are really good at what they do as Stewards. I don't know if their user pages are a dead giveaway or not. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I see that now. I'll review that with another Steward. There does seem to be clear enough evidence of abuse of user accounts policy, even if the edits by the crop of accounts wouldn't be what I would constitute blatant vandalism. Dmehus (talk) 18:15, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, sounds good to me. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 and DeciduousWater534, so I've discussed this with John and, yes, while there does seem to be very apparent abuse of user accounts policy in that the user is apparently creating multiple accounts to continue their undiscussed editing on local wikis where blocked, it's not clear to me how locking the user accounts would necessarily help prevent account creation and encourage the user to appeal their original block (i.e., at  as just one example) since the user tends just to edit on the same wikis&mdash;that is to say, they don't continue to use any of the apparent alternate accounts on wikis where they've never contributed. You've effectively done the work of global functionaries by locally blocking the user's apparent alternate accounts on wikis where they frequently contributed. Personally, from my perspective, I would instead like to see you post separate talk page messages on the user talk pages of the user's apparent master account, GinaGiovanniello2001, linking to a couple diffs on each wiki where the user is blocked that clearly show which local wiki rule(s) the user is violating on each wiki. You can advise the user of user accounts policy and not to create any additional user accounts, and to instead appeal their original local blocks via their respective local wiki user talk pages. Leave their apparent master account's user talk pages open, so they can put forth a proper appeal of their original local blocks. If the user continues to create additional accounts after these notices have been put in place, then you can either (a) open a new thread on stewards' noticeboard, referencing this thread, if it's been archived or (b) add to this thread, if it's not been archived. Dmehus (talk) 20:28, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I will advise them on either wiki they have contributed the most on, and I am highly doubtful they will ever respond, especially since I tried to warn them to stop evading blocks in their block summaries, so I could try to reach out to them. (Again, I doubt they are going to respond to this.) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:33, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 That sounds like a good approach. It doesn't have to be every wiki GinaGiovanniello2001 has ever contributed to, just several of them, but do be sure to make it clear which rules on each of the wikis, where you advise them, have been broken, and to stop create additional alternate accounts. With that in place, then you can return here, linking to the clear warnings, if further likely sockpuppet accounts are created from this day forward Dmehus (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The only thing this, what if it still continued? Would action still be taken? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 As I said in, ✅, as then we have a clearer case of crosswiki disruption together with the likely user accounts policy violations following your clear warnings that indicate, clearly, which local wiki rules the user is repeatedly breaking. Dmehus (talk) 20:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Welp, she didn't listen to my warning and created another alternate account after I specifically gave Gina her final warning and it seems clear she is only there to cause disruption by creating alternate accounts to evade her blocks. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's good that you did a CU, but I wonder why nothing really happened yet as of now? :/ DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Thank you for your follow up. Please note that I have now ✅ this technically in such a way as to guide the user via either their apparent main account or their latest account to appeal their local block(s) either via their apparent primary account's Best TV Shows wiki user talk page, if you and DeciduousWater534 have still left it open, or via one of your user talk pages on Meta. It's clear to me there's abuse of user accounts policy; however, as the user seems to just not understand that Miraheze wikis require collaboration, I believe that the measure(s) put in place will help guide them to doing so, to discussing with fellow community members, asking pertinent questions where they are unsure, and to appealing their blocks, as they've been asked to do. As they are locally blocked on all the same local wikis and they don't appear to continue disruption onto new wikis, technically speaking, there was little to no need to lock the alternate accounts. Plus, as I'm uncertain if the user even still remembers their apparent main account, I want to give them the opportunity to pick an existing account around which to appeal their blocks and to editing and discussing in compliance with local wiki rules and our global policies. You can see more in my notes here and here. Dmehus (talk) 16:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, but again, I have my doubts on this situation, so we will wait and see. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 In any case, they shouldn't be able to create any new accounts, and they're locally blocked on all wikis of their existing accounts, so they should not be able to edit on any existing wikis where blocked. If you have evidence they appear to have created new accounts in some way, you can follow up with the accounts created after Kittyjewelpet76 was created earlier today, linking to further diffs for each one. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Got it. I'll keep an eye on additional account creations by her. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

, she still didn't listen to you and completely ignored you. At this point, I don't think she's going to listen to you. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh, almost forgot about this one. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:20, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For the reasons I've articulated above&mdash;that is to say that the user does not appear to edit on more than a handful of wikis, for which the user's alternate accounts are all locally blocked, because the edits themselves are made in good-faith but the user seems not to want to engage with the local wiki administrators and/or community members, and because I'm not even sure which account the user would wish to return to&mdash;I've simply ✅ the technical measures put in place a few days ago. The user should not be able to create any further accounts, at least while logged out. If you notice the user create any accounts while logged in to one of their existing accounts, then we can assume the user has identified an account under which they wish to continue editing and to properly appealing their local wiki blocks. For now, though, we should be able to consider the matter ✅. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Globally lock this user
Can you globally block Larryding since he has left several spam comments about time travel on multiple wikis, and has been blocked several times. He also commented death threats on Terrible TV Shows Wiki (which have been deleted), he was blocked for edit warring on Rotten Websites Wiki (though that block has expired), and he has continued to bug me about said things, he claims that “I can’t tell him what to do” after I said that users are getting annoyed with his spam comments. As you can see by his global account contributions he is currently blocked on Awful Movies Wiki and Great Characters Wiki, and he has also been blocked in the past on Terrible TV Shows Wiki for sending death threats, Best TV Shows Wiki for his continuous spam comments, and as I mentioned above, he was blocked for a while on Rotten Websites Wiki for edit warring. So can you globally lock him because I think his behavior warrants a global lock. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:46, 3 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Here are links for proof:
 * https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3ALarryding&type=block (block log on Awful Movies Wiki)
 * https://terribletvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3ALarryding&type=block (block log on Terrible TV Shows Wiki)
 * https://besttvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3ALarryding&type=block (block log on Best TV Shows Wiki)
 * As can be seen in the block logs, his behavior is quite disruptive and warrants a global lock. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:05, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Blubabluba9990 Thank you for your good-faith note to Stewards to look at the user's edits. When you say "spam comments," I think there's perhaps a misunderstanding, as spam in a global context implies that a user account is posting or attempting to post, exclusively, external links to commercial websites selling various products or servers, or is in some other way attempting to hawk commercial products or services. I haven't seen any evidence the user is either (a) a spam only account, (b) a vandalism only account, or (c) an account that has in some way violated our global policies. As long Larryding doesn't attempt to use additional accounts to circumvent the local blocks that have been in place, there's no need for any global action here. Dmehus (talk) 23:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * By “spam” I meant off-topic. I think he has violated the Code of Conduct though, which says death threats and harassment are not allowed. This is more of a Code of Conduct issue than a spam/vandalism only account issue. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Blubabluba9990 Can you link to the specific harassment and potential Code of Conduct issues (i.e., diffs), so I can take a look at it through that lens and with that context? Dmehus (talk) 23:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * He made death threats in some article comments on Terrible TV Shows Wiki, though it seems the comments were deleted. He has also left these off-topic comments on multiple pages, and I think the comments have been deleted. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:04, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Here is his comments log on Terrible TV Shows Wiki: https://terribletvshows.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=comments&user=Larryding&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=
 * He made some death threats there as can be seen there. Here are the comments logs from the other two wikis I mentioned:
 * https://besttvshows.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=comments&user=Larryding&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter= (Best TV Shows Wiki)
 * https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=comments&user=Larryding&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter= (Awful Movies Wiki) Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:08, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * As can be seen there, he has left several repetitive comments and his behavior is disruptive. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:10, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, some of the comments are inappropriate, but looking at the context in which those comments you referenced were made in poor taste based on the user being upset with some aspect of the celebrity's work. Perhaps all that's needed here is just a reminder for Larryding to try and keep their cool during particularly passionate or heated discussions. Dmehus (talk) 03:08, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Though me and several other users have told him to stop but he hasn’t listened. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:47, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Update: Larryding actually admitted to sockpuppetry, if you look at his global contributions page he is blocked on many wikis now and one of the block summaries actually has a link to where he admitted it. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:10, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Also here is one of the sockpuppets he admitted to using in that topic (which has been deleted, but as a steward you can probably still view it): Call of duty lord, and in Call of duty lord’s global account you can see that he is blocked on almost every wiki he has been to. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:13, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Blubabluba9990 We're aware, and have seen the post you're referring to, but we haven't seen (a) where the user has apparently violated local policies and, crucially, (b) where the user has contravened user accounts policy. Dmehus (talk) 20:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It was to evade a block on another wiki. Here is where he admitted to sockpuppeting: https://crappygames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:W4zn93rtnw5iybvd&topic_showPostId=w4zwl7w3voctd3ag#flow-post-w4zwl7w3voctd3ag
 * This link is posted in most of the block logs, and even though it is deleted, as a steward you can probably view it. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:20, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The post is apparently restored. But Call of duty lord does admit to being a sockpuppet of Larryding. Two other users have been suspected of also being sockpuppets of Larryding who are blocked on many of the wikis: Masterblaster and Countdieselbrain Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Blubabluba9990 Yes, but the issue is Larryding hasn't used their Call of duty lord on a wiki where the former was blocked. Originally, Larryding was only blocked on one wiki, then pile-on local blocks occurred despite the user never having contributed to those wikis. So, other than on the one local wiki where blocked originally, Larryding's not violated any local wiki policies. Similarly, they have not violated user accounts policy as they've not edited on any wiki where blocked, other than Crappy Games Wiki and that was to confirm their account, which is a good-faith common sense exception here. So, I'm going to mark this as ❌. Dmehus (talk) 20:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

A request for Dormancy Exception for Santrovelo
Hello, I was wondering if it would be possible to request a dormancy exception for the Santrovelo Wiki. The wiki belongs to a non-profit community bike repair workshop and communicates the operating procedures for the shop to the volunteers that run it. The site is seldom updated as no new information is needed to run the shop but the contents are considered too useful to lose. The site was unvisited during the pandemic but the shop will open again soon. Thanks in advance for your help! Rudi51 (talk) 21:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Rudi51 Per my comments in on IRC (and via Discord thanks to the Discord/IRC relay), I'm placing this request on  until the Phabricator import request is done by system administrators. At that point, I'll be able to assess your wiki for the purposes of granting an exemption to Dormancy Policy. Not to worry, though, there's no danger of your wiki even going inactive for at least 45 days from now, and the task should be completed within the next day or two (at the most). Dmehus (talk) 21:59, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Rudi51 (talk) 23:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Rudi51 Now that the XML import request on Phabricator has been completed by system administrator Reception123, I have now been able to properly assess your request for an exemption to Dormancy Policy. In terms of need, it looks like this was originally created in this wiki request from 2016 by Treebrain (note the "null" database name, which, presumably, is either because (a) the record was imported into RequestWiki or (b) we used to set custom domains in CreateWiki). Looking at this wiki request from 2018, it looks like the wiki was recreated, possibly following a deletion per Dormancy Policy. Given that the wiki has likely been deleted and dropped at least twice and because you said that the non-profit Montreal, Quebec-based bicycle shop is only open seasonally and was closed due to COVID-19-related restrictions, there definitely is a demonstrated need for an exemption. Content wise, while there appears to be only approximately twenty (20) content pages, which might be a bit on the lighter side, looking at most of the content pages, in terms of page size, it's clear that there are a lot of documented store operating procedures and other resources that are used by the store's volunteers and would be potentially devastating if lost. So, accordingly, this exemption is ✅, indefinitely, as an organization's volunteer store training resource that is infrequently edited. As an aside, as Reception123 was able to specify  when he ran the maintenance script to import the XML file using the interwiki prefix I added locally, the edits were locally assigned to the previous users, who were also re-added to the wiki locally, and, as a result, we were able to determine who originally created the wiki. Dmehus (talk) 16:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus Wonderful, thanks to you all for your help! Rudi51 (talk) 16:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Rudi51 ✅. Dmehus (talk) 18:00, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Close wiki
Close this wiki: https://antsauutiset.miraheze.org/wiki/Etusivu. Anton (also known as Maantietaja, sockpuppet known person on wmf wikis) copied all news from Wikinews in Finnish. 85.23.95.148 16:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC)


 * 85.23.95.148, thank you for your report. First of all, would you mind logging in to your Miraheze account? If you do not have a Miraheze account, please consider creating an account and then logging in. Alternatively, if you prefer, you can e-mail more details on your report to . Secondly, regarding your report, we would not close a wiki without attempting to work with the local wiki to provide for the necessary attribution to Finnish Wikinews. This was likely a good-faith misunderstanding on Anton's part, so I will instead reach out to them and ask them to add an edit summary on each of the imported pages linking to the source pages on Finnish Wikinews. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:12, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * 85.23.95.148 I've ✅ for Anton to make the necessary corrections to what appears to be a good-faith, honest mistake on their part, and will follow up in a couple of weeks to ensure the edit summaries have been added to the necessary pages. Dmehus (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, well, well. Look at what I have discovered on the
I'm surprised nobody has even taken notice of these spam-only page creations dating back to August 16th, 2020. I took a look at one of the abuse filters from one of the spambots from that wiki, and when I took a look at the logs, I made a surprising find of multiple spam-only page creations like these. Would you mind having a look at the pages that appear to be created for spam/massive advertising purposes, (if there's any)? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:42, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your report, DarkMatterMan4500. Page creations appear to be too old to use Special:Nuke, so I'll format a bulk page deletion list. Dmehus (talk) 15:51, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds ✅ DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, will there be locks against those spam-only accounts that created those pages, or no? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

QwertyMan&#39;65 Please unblock me in the "Rotten Websites Wiki"

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Steward attention not needed here right now. QwertyMan'65 was referred to a local administrator's user talk page on Meta, if the user was unable to use their local user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 16:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello it's me QwertyMan'65, I want to get being unblocked because I'm very pitiful person. Then I want to edit some unnecessary words like "and/or" because it's very ambiguous and confusing to understand. Please help me to unblock in the Rotten Websites Wiki, I'm trying my best to contribute content. We need some kindness to act soberly without any trouble that you can do in this wiki... Make me smile and never be alone during the pandemic, it's so sad for me being alone without any help. Asperger need some support without any attack to the threat. Autism is a condition that change the behavior forever without any change to the human. Then can I help DMehus to get a mentor to the rotten websites wiki to get unblocked. My heart needs some change to the great friendly manner. Cool huh? Look around to get a gif picture to chat with funny friends around us... Thank You...! QwertyMan&#39;65 (talk) 16:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * QwertyMan&#39;65 This doesn't need Steward attention. Please reach out to DarkMatterMan4500 and explain the above on his Meta user talk page if your local Rotten Websites Wiki talk page has been revoked. I'm sure he'll be amenable to providing you another opportunity to make good-faith contributions and copyedits to that wiki. Dmehus (talk) 16:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

about Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki
That wiki was NOT meant to harass users, it was meant for criticizing toxic fanbases and hatebases (internet groups that can't behave well, internet trolls, people who harass other people over an opinion, etc), it should be reopened now, because that wiki has a lot of important information about those toxic groups of people and those fandoms and hatedoms deserve to be criticized because many of those communities annoy a lot of people on the internet, but some kind of butthurt user misunderstood the purpose of the wiki and reported it, you stewards should change the Terms of Service of Miraheze and/or restore that wiki since that wiki was meant for criticizing toxic groups of people, not for insulting people, because of things like this now users from Miraheze don't know how to defend themselves, this is just disappointing. Everyone should be free of criticizing bad things, freedom is important. SuperSoul (talk) 01:54, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that's not going to happen anytime soon. Plus, it's getting closer to that time of getting deleted anyways. And aside from that, it breached multiple Code of Conduct and Content policies after being warned to administer misappropriations. The closure had absolutely nothing to do with freedom of speech, and I have seen people make similar reports multiple times, but was ultimately declined. Besides that, if they were to reopen it now, then there would be a problem. Hope you understand this. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:33, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You seem to be very narcissistic, no? Because of people like you users get more useless with the time. The administrators of Miraheze need to know the truth of that wiki, free speech is a very important thing, this is not FANDOM. SuperSoul (talk) 11:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * What DarkMatterMan4500 has said above is correct. The wiki will not be reopened. Stewards warned the wiki administrators long before closing the wiki but they did not respond. The wiki will never come back. Please also remember to follow the Code of Conduct at all times. Thank you. 11:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * They misunderstood the actual purpose of that wiki!!!!!! understand that!!!!! you do not know what is this thing!!!! you guys were brainwashed by the those fools who do not know the truth! SuperSoul (talk) 11:54, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Criticizing is not the same thing like harassment nor insulting, their purpose was criticizing bad users, not harassing them. SuperSoul (talk) 12:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Again, I've heard users say that multiple times, and it doesn't really prove anything. It definitely doesn't help your case that multiple users have tried and failed to revive those problematic wikis. Besides that, there was a discussion banning those User Reception wikis, and it passed. Please try to understand that it's not going to be revived, no matter what happens. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Man, not just because they are the admins it means that you should praise everything that they do, they have some flaws, but no one is perfect, everyone commited mistakes, but some people commit really BIG mistakes. SuperSoul (talk) 01:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure why this has come up yet again after the decision has been explained multiple times. I've lost track of how many times I've made this point but the truth is there is a difference between criticising people and making unsubstantiated (and often very serious) claims that are not backed up by any evidence. One can't simply make up claims about another person without proving that these statements are actually true, or else that is called libel or defamation. The wiki in question was closed for that precise reasons: the pages fell short of this standard. I must invite you to re-read the Content Policy. Besides that, making generalized statements saying it was "just criticism" is definitely not going to convince anyone. The wiki as it was in its old form is not coming back. The administrators were given a chance to comply with our global policies, which they did not take. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:32, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I also must insist that this conversation takes place in a civil manner, and there is absolutely no need to throw insults at people: either calling them narcissistic or making silly accusations that we were "brainwashed". Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SuperSoul I don't have anything else to add to what others above have said, but I just have one question for you. Since your account was created just yesterday, how would you know what content is on that wiki? That wiki is currently a private, closed, and locked wiki; therefore, only users with the local  or   user group(s) on that wiki are able to view more than its public main page. Did you previously go by a different account name and you've now adopted a new persona? That's fine, though I would just highlight user accounts policy, a global policy, which I'd encourage you to review as a proactive matter of good practice. Dmehus (talk) 15:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * most information on that wiki was actually true, such as the toxic JoJo's Bizarre Adventure fans that act superior towards other anime fandoms, even some articles had some YouTube videos on it that prove that the information is true, just look at it on the internet, if you are accusing that wiki of defamation, make your research first.
 * what NDKilla did to that wiki is just unforgivable. SuperSoul (talk) 20:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SuperSoul I can assure you that the actions taken by NDKilla were not taken without discussion with other Stewards and even Global Sysops and other community members at the time. While it's been said many times why the wiki was closed, I will just briefly reiterate that it was related to systemic, unresolved Content Policy concerns (specifically provisions, "Miraheze does not host wikis with the sole purpose to spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against a person or group of people," and "A wiki must not create problems which make it difficult for other wikis.") as well as Code of Conduct concerns among the wiki's users, administrators, and bureaucrats, which went unheeded and unremediated when asked by multiple functionaries. As was made clear by your intimate knowledge as to the content of this private wiki, you're most welcome to use your alternate user account to use Special:Export or Special:DataDump on that wiki and export an XML dump of your wiki to self-host this wiki, assuming all the liability that goes along with that, if you wish. Dmehus (talk) 21:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No one is perfect in this world, everyone commited a mistake, but you guys commited a very big mistake, Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki was meant for critizing toxic fandoms and hatedoms, not to spread hate nor rumours against a person nor groups of people, how many times I have to explain it?, in fact that wiki has information that is true, like a group of Steven Universe trying to make an artist commit suicide, Some people trying to act superior to other anime fandoms by worshipping highly acclaimed anime shows, a Rick & Morty fan killing a McDonalds employee because a sauce was removed, a Halo fan killing his father (I knew that before visiting that wiki), some groups exposing personal data of some people, as well some people celebrating and mocking the deaths of people that they hate (such as Michael Jackson, Chester Bernington, XXXTENTACION, Stan Lee, Cameron Boyce, etc. to name a few), aren't those things horrible? those fandoms/hatedoms deserve to be critcized, there was no need to close TF&HW, that's the reason why it should be reopened.
 * I also realize that that site had some flaws, such as some articles being mediocre and part of the userbase consisting of incompetent douchebags, but the community was mostly decent. SuperSoul (talk) 04:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * As I said, you're welcome to use your original account and use Special:Export or Special:DataDump on this wiki and export an XML dump of this wiki if you wish to self-host, but it won't be reopened on Miraheze for the reason(s) I and others above (and previously) have articulated already. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 06:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have to say it, when I was an user on that wiki (with another account) I made and edited pages with data based on my own research and my own experiences with those fandoms/hatedoms, the same can be said for other users on that wiki, I also collaborated with some sandboxes of other users, so do not accuse us of defamation.
 * I can't access to that wiki via an old account, sorry. SuperSoul (talk) 01:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SuperSoul How come you can't access that wiki via the prior account? Can you tell me the error message you are receiving, so that I can try and assist you with being able to access that locked, closed, and private wiki? Dmehus (talk) 02:09, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I need to get unblocked on "Crappy Games Wiki"
Hello guys. Stewards, they must to unblock me in Crappy Games Wiki, because my spamming on multiple wikis is over now. Just to be words that no one shall to be subject on the unfair block. DarkMatterMan4500 is such a questionable man that need to get consultant of the social needs of getting wellbeing. How much in the crappy games wiki could be blocked for no reason huh? Just shall that we need to be happy fun of editing article with contribution while being kindful person to you. Make me smile and help us to grown up into the care of disabled person. Neurotypical people are not like me because they type write normal without a problem. Autistic needs some support, and not to attack them. Please never be offensive on conditionally disabled person of neurodevelopmental disorders like ADHD, Autism, and Asperger. I need help towards stewards to get unblocked me in Crappy Games Wiki. finish... correct me if i am wrong... QwertyMan&#39;65 (talk) 10:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * While I understand that you feel like the block made by DarkMatterMan4500 on Crappy Games Wiki is not fair, it would not be appropriate at all for us to "override" local blocks. While there are some Miraheze global policies, each wiki has autonomy and gets to create their own local policies and as such to decide whether they want to block a user. I would really suggest that you contact DarkMatterMan4500 and make your case to him instead. As a side note, please also note that you do not need to include your signature inside the thread title itself, only at the end of your post. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:39, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Global lock requests
I see on the Public Test Wiki Special:AbuseLog that there are again globally lockable accounts. You can check these accounts and see what you do for them: Special:Contributions/Cherie14J1109 (testwiki:Special:AbuseLog/1434) and Special:Contributions/CandelariaPace4 (testwiki:Special:AbuseLog/1430). Thanks. --Anton (talk) 18:59, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 19:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Closure Request
I want to request the permanent deletion of my wiki, since I barely even update it. HopkinsTheMovie (talk) 22:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * HopkinsTheMovie Though we usually prefer to have wikis closed and deleted in accordance with Dormancy Policy, as this was your personal, private wiki and you've specifically requested deletion, this has now been ✅. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 23:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I would wish to be a Local Interwiki Administrator on the Memes Wiki.
I wish to have Interwiki Administrator perms on my wiki, but as it is new, there is nobody to vote for me. Wiki JS 20:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * WikiJS Please create a local election page similar to this local election page, and return to this noticeboard when your election has concluded. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 20:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * How long would the election last for? Wiki JS  20:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Typically between 5-7 calendar days. Dmehus (talk) 20:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * WikiJS Bear in mind, though, looking at your global contributions, you don't appear to yet meet either the local or global editing contribution requirement for local . So, you'd need to either (a) have at least 500 edits on the wiki where requested or (b) 1,000 edits globally. In the interim, you can always ask at community noticeboard for an interwiki administrator or steward to add any interwiki prefixes you require immediately. Dmehus (talk) 20:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh alright. Thanks for pointing that out. Wiki JS  20:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Dmehus (talk) 20:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you give me a wikitext template for an election? If not that's fine. Wiki JS  20:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * There's no local election template. It doesn't have to be fancy, but see my comment above. Dmehus (talk) 20:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * To start an election copy the local election page from here, you have to add a few templates like Support and Oppose and remove the countdown to simplify the election page. Include the election page into the main page, greetings LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 14:35, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you please lock NoobamationsGD's account?
He left loads of spam & gibberish comments on Best TV Shows Wiki. - Trashanimal (talk) 02:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Trashanimal While I do agree this user has left many bizarre gibberish and disruptive comments, I don't personally feel this necessitates a global lock at this time. At present, the user's account is too new to assess whether it was a throwaway, vandalism only account or not. Please keep an eye on it, and I'd also suggest warning the user on their user talk page on Best Television Shows Wiki. If they're still disruptive, local administrators can locally block, and further action globally can be examined after that point. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 02:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Username usurpation request
Hey, could I usurp the username "Elli" (is my username on WMF Wikis and some others). The user "Elli" here has made zero edits since their account was registered on any wiki. Thanks! 0xElli (talk) 10:10, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * 0xElli Looking at the global accounts for the user in question, it looks like no Meta or Loginwiki accounts were created; however, the account is a global account. Nevertheless, our usual practice is for the requesting user to post a message on the user in question's Meta user talk page, so I will reach out to a system administrator, likely Reception123, to see if he can run a maintenance script that will attach Elli's account to Meta wiki so you can post your message. After a period of typically 2-4 weeks time, you would just return to stewards' noticeboard, replying to this thread or linking to the archive thread and starting a new thread if it's already been archived, so that a Steward can process your request. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:41, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Please ping me when I can leave them the message, then I'll do that and check back here in a few weeks. 0xElli (talk) 09:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * 0xElli You can now leave a message on Elli's Meta user talk page. Referenced Phabricator ticket #T6951. Dmehus (talk) 16:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Left a comment at their talk. Thanks for your help! 0xElli (talk) 07:18, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 07:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Wiki deletion request
Hi, Since I decided to abandon the project is it possible to delete the related wiki (kaia.miraheze.org)? Thanks in advance. Etfs95c (talk) 15:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Etfs95c Though we normally prefer for wikis to be deleted in accordance with Dormancy Policy, as I can see your wiki only four content pages together with the default Main Page and because you were the only recently active contributor to the wiki and the only substantial contributor to the wiki, the wiki has now been marked as ✅ and will be dropped from the servers the next time Site Reliability Engineering runs the applicable maintenance script. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 15:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Wiki family centralized file sharing and uploads
I would like to have  set up to use   as a media repository, for centralized file sharing and uploads. I would like 'Upload file' link of  to redirect to 'Upload file' of. Thanks. Gil Borlin (talk) 20:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Gil Borlin ✅. Please let me us know if you should need anything further, such as interwiki prefixes added to each of your two wikis' local interwiki tables. Also, it should be noted that any files uploaded to  prior to this change remain within that wiki's database. Upon checking, it appears that is only your wiki's favicon and logo. All new files uploaded will be uploaded to , though. Dmehus (talk) 21:11, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, that's about it for now. The only remaining thing is a redirect issue from  to   which I commented about on T6940. Gil Borlin (talk) 19:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, great. Was  always redirecting, or was it just  ? In any case, yeah, that should be easily resolved on Phabricator. Dmehus (talk) 19:03, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, both  and   were used to reach  . Gil Borlin (talk) 19:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Name changing
Can you change my name into "Zes M Young"? Thanks.

By the way,how to change the blank on the left of my wiki? Zespri (talk) 14:23, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Zespri Hi. Please use Special:GlobalRenameRequest in order to request changing your username. I'm also not quite sure what you mean by "the blank on the left of [your] wiki"? Could you please clarify that? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 14:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you Avoid My Wiki To Get Closed
Can you please left The TLS Wiki Open 65.131.117.97 02:02, 13 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure which wiki you're referring to, but if it's, please login to your account, and go into Special:ManageWiki on your wiki and uncheck the inactive box. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 02:22, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I am quitting Miraheze and I want my account globaled.
I will be moving to Fandom so I can work on my pages without the stress of the biased reception wikis deleting my work for no reason... Landslider (talk) 00:07, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Landslider Sure, I can process this request for you, if you're certain this is the outcome you prefer. However, I'd like to understand what the underlying reason(s) are here for your wanting to leave Miraheze (i.e., if you are being harassed by other users, that would be something that would be of interest to me and other Stewards). Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:36, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Basically a user named DarkMatterMan4500 falsely blocked me for being a user that I don't even know because the way I was editing the pages, I went out mad on my talk page on Crappy Games Wiki because I was pissed off that he falsely accused me of being a user I never knew and he also might delete my pages I spent hours working on. So yes please, global my account I hate it when the reception wikis became worse when the new moderators came in and lost the old ones that made the reception wikis good. Good luck out there man. :) Landslider (talk) 00:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Landslider I have noticed a tendency for DarkMatterMan4500 to ask many Reception wiki users on their wiki if the user has additional accounts on Miraheze, and I have spoken to them about that. I think we would do well to have a larger conversation with the Reception wiki administrators regarding civility and remembering to assume good faith. Nevertheless, since you've reiterated a request for a self-requested lock, please consider this ✅. You can e-mail Stewards at  should you desire to return to Miraheze. Dmehus (talk) 02:03, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Spam accounts?
On terribletvshows.miraheze.org, I found this user: User:Glebbus2002hkso

who claims they're User:GinaGiovanniello2001 who's apparently indefinitely blocked from there.

I've opened a new discussion since the old one appears to have ended.

Should the user be globally blocked/locked here? --KingstonuHull-h1986 (talk) 10:23, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Contributions list --KingstonuHull-h1986 (talk) 10:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Should the user block first on that wiki and then see what happens? Global locking is a very big measure considering that it seems that that user is just a traditional vandal on one wiki and that is exactly what only happens on a particular wiki - for example external links to other user talk pages are spambots and should be locked globally immediately. Anton (talk) 11:01, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * KingstonuHull-h1986 Thank you for your report. While not what we'd consider a spam only account, Glebbus2002hkso has been ✅ as a vandalism only account. Dmehus (talk) 15:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Locks
Special:AbuseLog again displays the same spambots that make external links to other talk pages. Could lock these: Special:CentralAuth/ElizabetCoughlin, Special:CentralAuth/WilliemaeX16, Special:CentralAuth/XavierWinsor, Special:CentralAuth/VeronicaBernacch and Special:CentralAuth/ClairBeer4268. Where exactly do these come from now? --Anton (talk) 10:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

502 Bad Gateway errors on wiki
I keep getting the 502 Bad Gateway error any time I try to log in to my wiki, I've tried everything in hopes of fixing it but it keeps giving me the 502 Bad Gateway error, I've tried restarting my computer, logging in on a different device, using a different web browser, signing out and back in to my Google account, deleting my browser history and cookies history but nothing works, all I get is the 502 bad error. And I can't make a my second account an administrator if I can't log into my main account. Please help fix this problem! The odd thing is is that this only happens to that account on my wiki. So I'm not looking to have another wiki, I just want this problem to be fixed as soon as possible. Sirlance3000 (talk) 03:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sirlance3000 If you're getting 502 Bad Gateway errors, this is likely a server-side issue, so would best be resolved on Phabricator. Can you visit Phabricator, register an account, and login using your Miraheze Meta Wiki login? Prioritize your task as high, and system administrators will look into this for you. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 05:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I have done this yesterday already Phabricator (T6966) task but works for me now as normal. --Anton (talk) 09:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Can't log into my account
As of now, I can't log into my account for some reason, I keep getting this error: "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form." I tried resetting my password, but that didn't work. I'm so confused. HELP!!! My username is Myuacc1, and my email is ;Special:Contributions/ 08:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * We have had a problem before. Try clearing your browser's cache and if that doesn't work, incognito mode will work for you. --Anton (talk) 08:57, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * It happened to me a few minutes ago, I was kicked out after a page save. I took me several minutes and trials to login again. But now, I'm back editing :-) Gerdami (talk) 13:36, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, We're glad to hear you're able to log in. Welcome to edit again! Anton (talk) 14:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I am hoping to obtain the Visual Editor extension please!
A few of my friends' pages use Visual Editor and it makes the edits process so much easier (and better looking). I am hoping to get the extension to use for my page. Thanks! BigMike18 (talk) 14:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello,, you can do this yourself using Special:ManageWiki/extensions on your wiki. Please read ManageWiki for additional help. Thank you. 14:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the 502 error I can final edit my wiki again
Thanks for fixing the 502 error I can final edit my wiki again Sirlance3000 (talk) 15:10, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Nothing, it's part of our job. But perhaps the right place to report this is not Stewards' noticeboard? --Anton (talk) 15:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sirlance3000 No problem. For further reference, the problem appears to have been related to a technical change to Miraheze's  system, which now been reverted and the problem corrected. Further details are available in this Phabricator ticket. If you ever have technical problems like this in the future, please register for and login to your Phabricator account to report these issues to system administrators, for more efficient service and reporting. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 15:33, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Global lock request for spammer who tripped the abuse log on the
This user, MargheritaDow has tripped more than a dozen abuse logs dating all the way back to December 19th, 2020. Could you potentially lock it, when you get a chance to? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:38, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * It should be locked, could you do this? --Anton (talk) 15:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, but DarkMatterMan4500, please do keep in mind we spambots are common, the more urgent ones to lock are the ones that get past the abuse filters. If they're just tripping abuse filters, the abuse filters are doing their job. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll take your suggestion into consideration. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:51, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Extension Labeled Section Transclusion
Hello Stewards, can i get enabled Extension Labeled Section Transclusion on Meta-Wiki and Login-Wiki? See discussion, thank you,--MrJaroslavik (talk) 17:38, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ on Loginwiki and on Meta Wiki. This was quite a non-controversial request as there is a strong use case for this extension both wikis. Dmehus (talk) 19:55, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Local interwiki administrator @ ahinfoboxeswiki
I've held an election here as per the policy. Arcversin (talk) 22:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅. Please remember to follow the global policy. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 02:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Could you pls raise $wgExpensiveParserFunctionLimit
The default limit for expensive parser function calls is 99 which is just one too little for my purposes, therefore my question: could you pls raise the default to 100? Thank you in advance, Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 09:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Lily This seems fine, and I assume you meant, though if you could please specify any other wikis where you want this change made, that'd be great. However, due to your wiki's custom CSS/JS on that wiki, I'm not able to change this field value using various means, so would you be able to please either (a) fix your CSS/JS code on that wiki (I note that your wiki appears visually broken on the Vector skin, so that's possibly related) or (b) temporarily set your wiki to use the MediaWiki default CSS/JS code so I can effect this change? When I'm done making the change requested, you can restore your CSS/JS code. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 19:54, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This is perfectly fine from a technical point of view if there's legitimate reasons and there clearly is but I'd recommended slightly higher as that number can change if it's not fully evaluated when it's calculated. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:10, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have no concerns with raising that limit even a bit higher than 100. The issue is a Lilypond Wiki-specific issue with the CSS/JS whereby the change I attempt to effect is not changed yet when I changed this field on Test 3 Wiki, it was effected immediately. Dmehus (talk) 02:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your answers. It is new to me that lilypondwiki is visually broken in Vector skin bcause Vector skin is the only skin that I allow on this wiki. Could you please post a screenshot? When I visit my wiki anonymous I do not see anything unusual everything seems fine to me. Please raise the limit on        thank you so much LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 04:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I guess I figured in the meantime what you mean by "broken", I fixed it now (if it is what I thought). Pls add  to the wiki list, greetings LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 05:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily Thank you for your reply. I'll post several time-limited screenshots to WeTransfer, to prevent cluttering up Miraheze Commons with single-purpose screenshots. The first screenshot from the Main Page of Lilypond Wiki illustrates what I mean by visually broken in Vector. Notice mainly how the WikiBase-added menu is covered up by other tabs and the search bar? (This is on a Chromium-based web browser, Vivaldi.) The second screenshot from About PCs Wiki shows how the search bar also partially covers up the tabs. Anyway, regarding your request, I've now ✅ this request as described above except for for Lilypond Wiki. At first, I wondered if it was because on most of your wikis, except for About PCs Wiki, the little  button toggles that surround the   field do not appear (see screenshots #1 and #2 from About PCs Wiki and Lilypond Wiki respectively for examples of what I mean). However, I was able to change the setting on all wikis except for for Lilypond Wiki. Universal Omega and I still suspect it's something related to the CSS/JS on your wiki, but we're not sure what. Perhaps you can take a look? Dmehus (talk) 14:16, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Now I see what you mean, this is not what I thought. I have disabled all the bars at the top of the screen (it covers nothing essential on my screen), the rainbow colored bar can be closed by clicking the "x", but now it is gone anyway. You can disable it by turning off Javascript, the purple bar is stored in mh:lilypond:MediaWiki:Vector.js and the rainbow bar a gadget definition which I have removed now. About PCs Wiki was founded by an other user, he tried to do some css. This wiki is not urgent as there not that many pages, I will ask for this later, thank you very much, greetings, LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 17:04, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there is no button to thank you for the changes in my wikis, so I thank you here and hope that is possible to change in  now, LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 17:23, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily ✅ for the changes done so far. If there is no button to thank me for the changes made, you may not have the Thanks extension enabled on your wiki, which may be either an unintentional or intentional configuration you've set. Anyway, I just tried upping the  limit to   on Lilypond Wiki per this request, and was still not able to do it. Your wiki, however, looks awesome now, and you could probably safely add back in the top navigation menu if you wanted. Anyway, I'm wondering if this is related to the problem you describe below in this thread, and if it might be worth creating a Phabricator task for system administrators to look into? The fact that a Steward isn't able to set   on just that wiki and you're having issues with user CSS/JS on your wiki, suggests maybe there's a configuration problem with your wiki, or maybe ManageWiki cache needs to be cleared or something? (And maybe ManageWiki cache has nothing to do with it...I'm just spitballing possible ideas here. At any rate, it seems like there's a technical problem with your wiki maybe.) Dmehus (talk) 17:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Deleting a wiki?
I requested my wiki, https://altuniverseuk1182.miraheze.org which is now closed; can it be deleted since I intend to re-create my wiki from scratch as a new wiki in the future? --KingstonuHull-h1986 (talk) 13:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I should add, no local wiki policy on closure since I was the only editor --KingstonuHull-h1986 (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I only see the message "Wiki not Found" in that link. It seems to have already been removed. --Anton (talk) 13:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I set it to Private and Inactive. --KingstonuHull-h1986 (talk) 14:00, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Special:WikiDiscover lists it as Closed, which I set it to. --KingstonuHull-h1986 (talk) 14:01, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay, then I can't help this anymore because I'm not a steward. Thanks anyway. --Anton (talk) 14:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That is because there was a typo in the URL. 14:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, a Steward will delete the wiki for you soon. :) 14:06, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Note your subdomain will not be immediately available until the wiki deletion script is next around in another 7-10 days. So, you'll need to request a new wiki with a different subdomain. In future, if you're just wanting to reset your wiki, standard practice is to request this on Phabricator and system administrators can run a script that forces your existing wiki database name to be dropped immediately. Dmehus (talk) 19:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Titles of articles
I believe there's a way to "disguise" a title; I've done it before on FANDOM, but I forgot how. It does not change the overall name of the article, only the title at the top of said article. Can you help me?

FreezingTNT (talk) 18:18, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * What exactly do you want to do? Not display the title on a page? There are several ways to do so. If you want to remove the title on all pages, add following entry to the Common.css (of course in your wiki)  but be really carefully when you do this you could easily destroy your wiki. You can hide the title on specific namespaces if you want, hth, LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 19:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Here is a very good tutorial with tips how to manage a wiki: MediaWiki Tutorials on Hostknox read also the How To's LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 19:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * FreezingTNT If Lily's links above weren't what you were meaning by "hiding a page title," you may have meant the  magic word/parser function. Details on how to set this on a given page are available at this MediaWiki help page. Note that you may also need to change the MediaWiki variable in the "parser functions" tab of Special:ManageWiki/settings on your wiki. Dmehus (talk) 20:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * BTW, isn't this rather a thread for Community noticeboard? LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 06:04, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily Yeah, this probably should've been moved to community noticeboard. Sorry, I was away most of the day yesterday, so didn't get a chance to move it. Anyway, I also figured we should maybe wait until we saw whether FreezingTNT's question was answered before it moving it. I'll wait another day or so, then move it to community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 14:22, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * What I mean is, for example, I want to make the title of, say, "Bob" look like "Robert", without changing the overall title of the article.
 * EDIT: Nevermind!
 * FreezingTNT (talk) 16:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * FreezingTNT That sounds like the  magic word described above and on that linked page, which I've again linked. Please see above and review that MediaWiki help page. Note that you may need to uncheck   in the Parser Functions tab of ManageWiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 16:54, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Lock March 17
Special:CentralAuth/NorbertoMilerum and AbuseLog (Anti-spam). --Anton (talk) 06:01, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Anton I've ✅ this spam only account, but since we do get a lot of spam bots, it's usually best to report these in batches of a dozen or so, rather than one-offs. If they're flooding the local TestWiki abuse logs, feel free to locally block them for a month or so as a "spambot" or "spam only account" and then post a batch when you have a dozen or so spam only accounts that need locking and investigating. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:25, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Agreed, thanks Dmehus! --Anton (talk) 15:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Marijn Venhuizen Version
TheYellowFox15 (talk) 11:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm not even sure what your question is, so can't determine whether stewards' noticeboard or community noticeboard is the best venue for this question. Please reply, in English, using machine translation required, with your question or request. Otherwise, I'm going to just assume this has been resolved and can be archived according to this noticeboard's autoarchive specifications. Dmehus (talk) 16:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Allowing user CSS/JS fails in my wiki
Some time ago I unchecked the boxes for user CSS/JS in my Lilypond Wiki section Manage this wiki's additional settings Styling and wanted to revert that now. I checked the boxes and submitted, but this had no effect, next time loading the page the boxes are unchecked again. Maybe the reason is that the box  is empty. Maybe the reason for that is that in the section preferences  Vector is listed which I cannot remove. Can you pls help me out, thank you Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 17:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)


 * You can enable them from Special:ManageWiki: "Styling" section. --Anton (talk) 17:29, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This is the problem: I cannot LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 20:34, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I believe Lily's request isn't so much about where to enable this, but rather that they're trying to enable this on their wiki, and it's not working. Dmehus (talk) 20:34, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly, this is the problem, greetings LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 04:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Found a wiki violating numerous Content policies
Please note that I have sent an email to the Stewards at  about waoryouwiki having numerous Content policy violations on all the pages that were submitted on that wiki. So, I suggest having a look at my email I sent you enlisting all the details that you'll ever need to conduct an investigation on that wiki. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:27, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * And there are a lot of examples of Content policy violations like this one on, which has a lot of private and sensitive information (just like 9 other pages on that wiki itself). DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:48, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Deleted, thanks for the report. -- Void  Whispers 03:10, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ I'll let either you or the other Stewards know if I spot anymore wikis violating the Content policies. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:39, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * And while I was searching around, I found another Content policy violating wiki which has the same reason why the wiki I reported last night was deleted. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Local interwiki administrator @
I have held an election here as per policy. You can use Google translator or ask me for translation there. Election can be closed by using Discussion top and Discussion bottom templates. Thank you in advance. Yahya (talk) 11:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Yahya ✅. Dmehus (talk) 20:49, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Please investigate the as soon as possible:
The reason why I am asking this again is because I have discovered yet another wiki that is not only violating the Content policy, but is also violating the Code of Conduct as well. The owner, 小牧 has been found to be violating the Content policy by publishing private or sensitive information (just like I stated in my last report on another wiki that was shut down) Take this for example. This link I am showing you isn't the only one that has private or sensitive information, but it's also on nearly all the pages I've visited, including this one, which also has insults, leaked names, leaked addresses (which is personal information, and a big violation of the Content Policies anyway), etc. I would highly suggest for all the contributors involved in that wiki to be globally locked as soon as possible from this User creation log, although I only came to that wiki to investigate it, and nothing else. I'd appreciate it very much, and you have my thanks. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:57, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * This is being investigated and discussed with other Stewards. Dmehus (talk) 01:13, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Extension "ShortDescription" request
Good morning / afternoon / night.

I'm Nino from OW.

I am making a request for you to add this extension: -G. I need her. TheNino (talk) 00:29, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * TheNino I'm surprised we don't have this extension installed on Miraheze actually, as this is a very commonly used extension. Nevertheless, these sort of things are requested on Phabricator, so I will request it for you, and link the ticket here. Dmehus (talk) 01:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * TheNino Please see and follow the Phabricator ticket. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 01:12, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for the justification of: I don't know how to use Phabricator so I had to ask right here
 * (I use translator) TheNino (talk) 01:15, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's fine, I suppose, though Phabricator is not too difficult to use. It's usually just a matter of creating an account by clicking on the MediaWiki login button, then you'll be redirected back to Meta Wiki to authorize Phabricator to use your MediaWiki sign-in through OAuth. Once logged in, just click on "Maniphest," then the "feature request" form. Dmehus (talk) 01:29, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus, Wikimedia wikis don't really use this extension, as you said on Phabricator. I asked for this extension for the only way to open small words near the title. TheNino (talk) 02:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * TheNino Oh, okay, I guess that was a misunderstanding then as English Wikipedia does use a ShortDescription feature, which I assume must be a community-maintained gadget rather than an extension. Also, just for future reference, when replying to me and if you wish to address me by a certain name, please use either "Dmehus" or "Doug," not my full name. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:17, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I need my password reset. I've been trying for MONTHS I can't get in
Please help me! 172.93.177.172 00:41, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * 172.93.177.172, do you have an e-mail address associated to your user account? If so, then please request a new password e-mailed to your e-mail address on file unless it is an Outlook.com e-mail address, there may still be mail delivery issues. If it is an Outlook e-mail address, perhaps you could e-mail system administrators at  and ask them to e-mail you manually at your confirmed e-mail address on file? Following your receipt of that manual e-mail message, you could confirm receipt by replying to their message, and they may be able to change your e-mail address on file to a non-Outlook.com e-mail address? If you have no confirmed e-mail address on file and do not either (a) use your real name as part of your username or (b) have a committed identity somewhere on Miraheze, then restoring access to your account is unlikely to be possible. Best bet would be to think hard what your password might be. Failing that, I'd suggest creating a new account. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Dormancy Policy Exemption for MH-142 (industrialroboticswiki)
Hello. I would like to request an exception to the dormancy/inactive policy for Industrial Robotics & Automation (mh142.com). This wiki is set up as a free open alternative for the very expensive textbooks for the classes I teach, to save the students from having to purchase one. The classes sometimes run every other semester and may not need editing when the class is not in session. I do not wish to lose the work I have put into it while I focus my efforts into other classes between the robotics courses. Mike138 (talk) 21:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Mike138 In terms of need for an exemption to Dormancy Policy, you've articulated a clear a need, and this is evidenced by the fact that you are the sole editor of this wiki. In terms of content, I found at least 65 content pages, some of sub-stub- and stub-level, but many of which contained important and detailed procedures and information that would be potentially detrimental if lost. So, this is ✅ as an educational resource related industrial robotics and automation intended to supplement existing open access textbooks and even potentially to replace comparable paid textbooks. Please do advise us should you no longer need this exemption. Dmehus (talk) 22:24, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Update on Larryding
After some thorough investigation, I have found that Larryding has been abusing multiple accounts, because four total users have been accused of being Larryding sockpuppets. https://terribletvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=Masterblaster&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B0%5D=comments&wpfilters%5B1%5D=newusers&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop
 * Call of duty lord is a confirmed sockpuppet of Larryding, as I showed you in the above thread. Also, he used that account to message another user, SuperStreetKombat, in defense of Larryding: https://crappygames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserBoard&user=SuperStreetKombat&conv=Call+of+duty+lord. He also left a comment in defense of Larryding. That does seem to be all that sockpuppet did apart from the account confirmation.
 * Special:Contributions/Countdieselbrain is another suspected sockpuppet who hasn’t done much either except for a few comments in defense of Larryding.
 * Special:Contributions/Masterblaster, another suspected sockpuppet has done more, as can be seen by his comments logs on Awful Movies Wiki and Terrible TV Shows Wiki, where he exhibits behavior similar to Larryding: https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=Masterblaster&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B0%5D=comments&wpfilters%5B1%5D=newusers&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop
 * Special:Contributions/Popthesmoke03 is a more recently discovered suspected sockpuppet of Larryding. This is the thread given in the link to his block on Crappy Games Wiki which is deleted so I have no way to see it, but from the deletion description it seems like he either admitted to being a sockpuppet in the thread or displayed similar behavior: https://crappygames.miraheze.org/wiki/Topic:W5f0iwckkbw7xkvc

I think you should run a CheckUser on these accounts, as this is proof that he is ban evading. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:05, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Blubabluba9990 What local policies did Larryding violate that led to their being blocked on each wiki? Can you also link to a warning, whether on a talk page (ideal) or in an edit summary (somewhat less than ideal), again on each wiki, where the user was warned about contravening said policy prior to being locally blocked? Without that, I don't feel a lock would be appropriate given these circumstances, and you should instead properly warn and Larryding on exactly which policies they were violating and to appeal their local blocks via their user talk pages, which should be left open. Dmehus (talk) 23:38, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * There haven’t been any warnings, at least not to my knowledge.
 * I could try to talk to Larryding here about it. I am not an admin on any of those wikis so I am not in any position to give warnings though.
 * He is blocked as well as his suspected socks on those wikis, though he didn’t violate a policy on each wiki.
 * They also do not have talk page privileges on any wikis. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:46, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If you should contact anyone about giving Larryding a warning, it would be an admin, preferably DecidiousWater234 since he is an admin on all of those wikis, at least I think so. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:47, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Global lock for Ihatetrevor
Username violates the Username Policy, specifically: "Usernames that are offensive, contain insulting material, harass a user or are in violation of any global Miraheze policy.". The "Trevor" is apparently Trevor807, an admin on a lot of wikis. MarioMario456 (talk) 23:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * MarioMario456 We can't assume that "trevor" refers to Trevor807. In any event, Username Policy states that good-faith should be assumed unless the edits strongly suggest otherwise, so I've appropriately warned Ihatetrevor at their user talk page. This gives them an opportunity to request a rename. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 23:40, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Request for local "UserMerge" rights on TurtleWiki
Greetings, I would like to request local UserMerge rights for the wiki TurtleWiki, in which I am the sole Bureaucrat. Is it possible that a Steward (who according to this page have local and global UserMerge permissions) could add just the local merge permissions to the Bureaucrat user group? The reason for this request is that there are several accounts which were accidentally created when I was attempting to import templates, and a few more that users managed to create before I restricted account creation to a certain user group. I understand that I could just ask a Steward to merge these with an account I created for the purpose on TurtleWiki, but I think that it would be easier if I were able to do it myself, instead of having to request and wait for a response. It just seems like it would be a pain and a bother to have to do that every time I want to remove an account from TurtleWiki. Thank you in advance! Turtle84375 (talk) 23:42, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Turtle84375 While it's not feasible, at least currently, to delegate the  user right, if you'll specify the user accounts that you wish to be merged, it should be possible for a Steward to perform this for you. How does that sound? Dmehus (talk) 23:44, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, I was afraid of that. Oh well, that's fine, let me put a list together real quick... Turtle84375 (talk) 23:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Turtle84375 Alright. I've just checked Special:Log/newusers on, and it looks like two of the users might be DeletedUser and Turtle84385. I see both accounts were created by you while logged in as Turtle84375, so that's good. The issue, though, is that because you already logged in to both accounts, you created a global account, which automatically attached the accounts to Loginwiki and this wiki. Thus, they're no longer local user accounts, so even if there were the community-endorsed policy for the delegation you describe, these couldn't be handled by a local wiki   anyway as it affects multiple wikis. Plus, procedurally, it's a bit of a pain as the accounts would need to be unmerged, then locally merged into your local wiki user accounts on each of those wikis. I can see a case for doing that for DeletedUser, but for Turtle84385, my preference would be for you to just retain that as an alternate account. You could self-request a lock of that alternate account, if you wished, instead. Dmehus (talk) 23:57, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, both of those accounts were ones I created, and for those ones I don't want them merged. I created DeletedUser after reading about the UserMerge MediaWiki extension, but then saw that it wasn't an extension listed. Turtle84385 was just me testing the anti-username-spoof filter, which didn't seem to work, at least for the number, so I just kept it for testing. I plan to keep Turtle84385. So, if I understand correctly, there's a complicated process that you would need to go through in order to merge the extra accounts ("created automatically") with DeletedUser? Turtle84375 (talk) 00:10, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Turtle84375 Yeah, I mean, it's a bit of effort certainly. To provide some perspective, the workflow for a Steward would work something like this:
 * Add local  rights on each of   and
 * Unmerge DeletedUser at Special:CentralAuth/DeletedUser
 * Merge DeletedUser into Turtle84375 using Special:UserMerge on
 * Merge DeletedUser into Turtle84375 using Special:UserMerge on
 * Merge DeletedUser into Turtle84375 using Special:UserMerge on
 * Remove local  rights on each of   and
 * Potentially add  to the title blacklist to prevent recreation
 * It would be much simpler and quicker, if you preferred, to just globally rename DeletedUser to another username, which you could request at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or via reply to this thread. Hope that provides some helpful information and clarification here. Dmehus (talk) 00:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think there might be some confusion here; I'm keeping DeletedUser so that these accounts on TurtleWiki can be merged into it, if that's possible:
 * Bonnedav
 * Anpang
 * Rob Kam
 * Stranger195
 * ENCYCLOQWEDIA
 * Lily
 * Pppery
 * Thomas.H1
 * MacFan4000
 * Southparkfan
 * Dmehus
 * Ahmsaqib
 * Joey717
 * Sabelöga
 * MrJaroslavik
 * Sau226
 * Hispano76
 * Cy
 * Or is there another way to remove these users from TurtleWiki? Because them being there allows them to log in and view pages... Turtle84375 (talk) 00:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Turtle84375 Oh, that's definitely not possible as accounts are automatically added to local wikis merely by visiting them while logged in. Those are all Miraheze users. Your adding an  user group to each of them is an appropriate way to handle this. You could instead make   private in Special:ManageWiki, which would mean that only users granted the   or   local user groups would have   access to your wiki (not counting stewards and system administrators) which have global   access for mainly technical and global policy reasons). Dmehus (talk) 00:56, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That's effectively what I tried to do; the only problem is that I deleted the "members" user group and haven't found a way to restrict read access. The problem is, I think I broke something... TurtleWiki is marked as private, but I can still read pages using my alt, Turtle84385, even without "read" permissions. I think I messed something up by deleting user groups not knowing the full impact of doing so. Is there such thing as a wiki reset? Because I think that may be the best course of action; I haven't added much content-wise to TurtleWiki yet, and I believe that I need the user groups put back to default. Turtle84375 (talk) 01:12, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Turtle84375 The  is a MediaWiki default user group, so you'll need to remove the   user right from Special:ManageWiki/permissions/user on your wiki, and just assign the   or   user group (to users you want to have view access to your entire wiki, of course). By default,   is the user group that defaults to having   access on private wikis, though this could be changed with a GitHub pull request on your wiki if you were absolutely concerned with it being named something else. It just couldn't be   Dmehus (talk) 01:30, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ahhhh it all makes sense now. Thank you for your help! Turtle84375 (talk) 01:33, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Turtle84375 No problem...I've ✅ your wiki with just single log action to illustrate how simple it is and all that needs to be done. Now looking at your list of users, the only users, as of this reply's posting time, that can view your wiki are yourself, as a local, myself (as a steward), and Southparkfan as a system administrator. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yay! But now I can't view the wiki. I mean..that's ok for now. Anpang (talk) 01:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Anpang Yep, that's how private wikis work. Turtle84375 would need to add the  (or  ) group to you to view more than the Main Page on the wiki. Dmehus (talk) 01:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * @Turtle84375 That means you need to change the main page to something else, not about Planet Turtle. Else people that you didn't add can still see it. Anpang (talk) 01:50, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, best practice is to create a public Main Page like this wiki. One can also redirect the Main Page to an internal page on the wiki, too, as a workaround. Dmehus (talk) 01:53, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is exactly what I'm thinking about. My wikis hytalewiki and myceliumwiki also uses that trick (I do that just to change the page name of the homepage, those wikis aren't private.)Anpang (talk) 01:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for annoying, but I have a suggestion that that thing happened because you deleted the Member user group. Users in the Member user group are only registered users. That means you can't edit permissions on registered users. Anpang (talk) 01:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm...maybe that's not the thing - I logged out and then I can still see the wiki Anpang (talk) 01:20, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, my account's merged too lol Anpang (talk) 01:15, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Anpang Hrm? I don't understand what you mean. Dmehus (talk) 01:30, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean that in the list of users that Turtle post, I am included in there. Anpang (talk) 01:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Anpang Ah, okay, thanks for clarifying. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure why Turtle84375 effectively pinged that list of users above by linking to their Meta user pages, so each of those users will receive an Echo notification on this wiki. Dmehus (talk) 01:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yikes, sorry about that... forgot about the pinging. Turtle84375 (talk) 01:59, 21 March 2021 (UTC)