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Update the list of administrators of Meta
I recently tried to get some changes done on meta and I received this response:

It happens that some sysadmins are also Meta administrators (like myself), in that case they would be acting in their capacity as a Meta administrator and not a sysadmin. Reception123 (talk) (C) 15:35, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Please update this page:

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators

to make that more clear.

Can you point me to the page that describes how someone becomes a meta administrator and how you challenge their decisions?

Rsterbal (talk) 11:09, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * There's no formal policy on administrators on meta. Users can gain permissions at Requests for permissions. Challenging decisions is done the same way as everything else - discussing. Administrators have no rule of law, their comments are opinions and carry the same weight as everyone elses unless they're enforcing one of the relatively few policies that exist on Meta. John (talk) 11:22, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * In addition, I think that we should discuss having some guidelines for what pages should exist on Meta, so that we stay consistent. This should be discussed by the users. To clarify again, my comments about the page were just my opinion as a user, not as an administrator, and they were just suggestions. I make these suggestions, because as I said above I'm trying to keep pages on Meta consistent with each other, and their style. If we have different pages set up differently and named differently, it can become confusing for users to find them. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 05:26, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Rewritten FAQs
I had wanted FAQ to reference the new Gazetteer of wikis (inspired by Community noticeboard) but FAQ is protected against editing. I took a copy, at User:Spike the Dog/FAQ, fleshed out some sections, eliminated duplication, and provided new material, such as: Would you please evaluate these edits and, if suitable, install this version? 11:36 19-Oct-2017
 * What a wiki is
 * Overview of CSS/JS
 * How MediaWiki extensions work.


 * I've gone ahead and done a major update to FAQ, largely using your work. You could probably diff your FAQ and the current FAQ to see that I've made a couple of small edits. Mostly just replacing a little bit of odd wording, the thing about nobody knowing how to pronounce Miraheze (I also changed that to a permlink), and I replaced several instances of Stewards with sysadmin since they're different. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:49, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much! It might look better to use so that the Intro is what the reader sees first, rather than the entire Table of Contents. And to be really nitpicky, the Main Page does nothing hopefully. You may delete the version in my userspace if you like. 16:06 19-Oct-2017
 * I have made a few minor edits to the FAQ. I think it's great that we now have a more detailed version of the FAQ. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 16:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Okay, but if dismissable site notices are only available globally, then you want to delete the paragraph after that one too. Also, you changed "More complicated changes" to "Other changes not listed" (for changes that require a request). But they are listed, further on down the page. My strategy was to have a section of the things a wiki owner could do himself, followed by the things that have to be done for him. That we hope, for the future, to move items from the second group into the first won't be relevant to the reader of this page. 16:50 19-Oct-2017
 * Thanks for noticing. I have modified both. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 16:17, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Rename Part-up wiki
Hi, can you rename wiki: https://partup.miraheze.org to https://r2.miraheze.org. I already discussed this with Laurens Waling. He agreed. Regards, Tim, Timboliu999 (talk) 19:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you make this request on phabricator? This noticeboard is for matters involving metawiki only (and your request should be tracked properly anyway). -- Void  Whispers 20:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Void, I have created a task. See https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T2344. Regards, Tim, Timboliu999 (talk) 05:27, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia interwiki
My Phabricator task 2384 has resulted in discussion about process but no decision. 's opinion was that it should be brought up here, so I am doing so. My Phabricator request stated:


 * In 2013, Uncyclopedia (uncyclopedia.wikia.com) forked into two projects. The Fork (en.uncyclopedia.co) started a campaign to induce as many wikis as possible to point to it rather than the original site on the basis that "the community has moved" and the original site was "unused and abandoned." Requestor remained on the original site, became an Admin just after the split and is now a bureaucrat on sabbatical. My opinion is that, in the intervening years, the Wikia site has valued the reader while the Fork site has been operated for the sake of the authors. In the cases where the content is not identical, the Wikia site is better maintained and has more mature and entertaining content. Your call; but at the least, the arguments given for the original switch are not truth but one side's spin.

Reception123 granted the request for my own TheMirror wiki but the global issue is unresolved and the Phabricator task remains open. 12:08 17-Nov-2017
 * This clearly needs discussion between the community so that it can be decided which one of the sites is preferred to be linked in the interwiki, and if we perhaps want to have two links (one for the Wikia wiki, one for the other). Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 08:06, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The Wikia version can already be accessed at wikia:c:uncyclopedia, just like every other Wikia wiki can be accessed with wikia:c:SUBDOMAIN-NAME. Meanwhile, the only iw link for Uncyclopedia.co is . 12:32, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Remove uncyclopedia, leave uncyclopedia blank, and add two variants for .co and .wikia.com. I don't think we're in position to make a decision which one is "authentic". &mdash; revi  15:45, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Do we really need to make a(n another) interwiki prefix for uncyclopedia.wikia.com? Just like every other Wikia wiki, it can already be accessed with wikia:c:uncyclopedia. Besides, the people over at Interwiki map once did what you suggested (which is to delete uncyclopedia: because now they're on .wikia.com), but then the editors from the true Uncyclopedia asked Wikimedia Meta to link it to the fork and they agreed. 02:35, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Edit Abuse
Dear Admins,

I think that next to the centralauth-lock permission in the table the explanation says "This allows the staff member to lock accounts when they need to be locked for other official reasons, such as global bans, abuse, or legal concerns. It also allow the staff member to unlock accounts, either because the lock was done in error or because the concern has been alleviated. This right is exercised only from Meta, for better logging and transparency." It should say "This allows the staff member to lock accounts when they need to be locked for official reasons, such as global bans, abuse, or legal concerns. It also allow the staff member to unlock accounts, either because the lock was done in error or because the concern has been alleviated. This right is exercised only from Meta, for better logging and transparency." . The difference between the 2 statements is the deletion of the word other after the first sentence. I therefore suggest that sysops be more careful when importing pages. Also I think the page should be moved to  and that MediaWiki:Grouppage-abuse be updated to reflect the new page.

Sincerely

-Sau226 (talk) 05:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've adjusted the wording. I'm rather of the opinion of moving the page to the mainspace, considering that it is a global toolset. -- Void  Whispers 00:01, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Authentication Required popup when logging in
When logging in on miraheze, I get an 'authentication Required' popup (firefox) saying that https://wiki.lspdfr.de is requesting my username and password, and a warning that those will not be sent tot the website I am visiting (miraheze). Strange thing.

It will keep me logged in on miraheze if I cancel the popup.
 * Hmm I got that on miraheze the other day. you are the owner of said wiki, do you know anything about this? MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 21:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This is very strange. I invite you to file a task on Phabricator about this (maybe also provide a screenshot) so that we can investigate this better. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 05:56, 1 February 2018 (UTC)