User talk:Dmehus

Confirm me
I want to request bot permission (to lock people with unacceptable usernames), but I can't edit Requests for permissions --NameBot (talk) 15:47, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * btw this account is owned by --NameBot (talk) 15:52, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your request, welcome to Meta, and, ordinarily, I'd lower Requests for permissions' page protection level; however, given that your proposed bot proposes to perform a Global Sysop or steward function, I'm going to say this will be a ❌. If you want to submit your bot code to Miraheze for an existing global functionary to operate, that is fine. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I thought maybe we can lock all users with questionable words in their username, as I saw A LOT of usernames that haven't been locked --NameBot (talk) 15:56, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I could see a bot potentially adding value, but we do have Title blacklist, which handles this in MediaWiki software directly, too, and which applies globally. You're welcome to propose suggested changes or additions to that page on either (a) stewards' noticeboard or (b) Talk:Title blacklist. But to your point, the key problem with your proposal is that is not a Global Sysop, so Tom191 cannot operate a bot account performing Global Sysop functions. Does that make sense? Dmehus (talk) 15:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, ok. --NameBot (talk) 16:02, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding. Let me know if you have further questions on this. Dmehus (talk) 16:04, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Could we remove the reception wikis
These wikis to be precise Atrocious YouTubers Wiki, Horrible Vyonders Wiki, and Unfavorable Wikis and Users Wiki.

They are harassing users, and they hate SJWs. We need them banned ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D Mob (talk • contribs) 18:52, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * First, while I am not a steward, I will say that I, too, have noticed highly problematic content on those wikis. However, your reports will get more attention of stewards if you link to a series of pages on each of the wikis and explain how and in what way(s) the given wikis are violating Content Policy and their users are violating the Code of Conduct. In terms of the latter, linking to specific revisions and/or specific users' Special:Contributions pages on the given given wikis is also helpful. Second, you should remember to sign your posts with four tildes . Third, you should also, ideally, make only one post, ideally on stewards' noticeboard, but it is also acceptable to use a steward's or my user talk page, and I'll forward your report to a steward. Finally, please do not change other users' posts, as you did here, which has been reverted. If I see that again, in such an egregious manner, I will have no choice but to temporarily block or partially block you on Meta to prevent this egregious disruptive editing. As well, activities like that seriously undermine your credibility in what might otherwise be the early workings of a very legitimate complaint to stewards. Dmehus (talk) 21:34, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

ilogicopedia
Hello, Dmehus. I have a problem with illogicalpedia. The founder does not have an email address, and I cannot make a consensus in the absence of active users, how do I go about adopting it now? --Anthony8IA (talk) 16:28, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Interwiki request
Hi there! Please consider adding a  table to Special:Interwiki on meta, pointing to   with forwarding on. Let me know if there are any concerns about this. Thanks. Naleksuh (talk) 00:02, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * While I'm a Meta administrator and can technically edit the global interwiki table, procedurally, I really shouldn't be as Meta administrators have never really been authorized to edit the global interwiki table. I'm in the process of working on an interwiki reform RfC that should be ready for discussion in a couple weeks or so, so I will diarize this request, and update the global interwiki table once the reforms pass. Having said that, I do think the URL should be . In the mean time, we can use  . Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:07, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I was not referring to the global interwiki table, but only to the Meta table, as I saw you on Interwiki administrators/List. Naleksuh (talk) 00:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, yeah, I should've clarified that Meta doesn't have a local interwiki table, and interwiki administrators are only allowed to edit the local interwiki table on any wiki that hasn't opted out (currently, there are none, except Meta). My RfC will hope to change that, as it does make sense, I think. Proposal 1 will propose moving the global interwiki table to Loginwiki, allowing Meta to have its own local interwiki table to be editable by Meta administrators and interwiki administrators. Proposal 2 would propose to retain the global interwiki table on Meta, for greater transparency, but opt it back into interwiki administrators, and then there will be another proposal to either (a) specifically authorize Meta administrators to edit the global interwiki table or (b) specifically exclude Meta administrators from editing the global interwiki table. A further proposal will add an inactivity clause of 12 months to interwiki administrators, another will add a couple minor readdition clauses, and there will also be some housekeeping amendments to local interwiki administrators, to better clarify who is eligible to be a local interwiki administrator (currently, it is notionally a, but on TestWiki and other wikis, they have bureaucrats who don't have the   user right, so I would like to propose that anyone is eligible, provided they have certain minimum local edit requirements met, they've been ratified by a local functionary with the   user right, and a steward then grants rights). What do you think of that? Dmehus (talk) 01:03, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

You don't have a vaild email address
Mr. Dmehus, when I try to email you about the steward candidate I wanted (I'm not gonna tell you due to privacy reasons), I couldn't because it says that "This user has not specified a valid email address.". Can you get an email address so I can email you? The Fastastic Mr. Owen (please call me Owen) OwenFung87 05:35, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note, Owen. That is very strange, as I am certain I had added and confirmed an e-mail address on Miraheze, as I do get the e-mail notifications for those which I have opted into. Nevertheless, I have re-added and confirmed it, so you should be able to e-mail me here now. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 13:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

DFA
How do I promote my wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katholica (talk • contribs) 15:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You could add your wiki at the Gazetteer of wikis, for starters. Secondarily, you could join us on Discord or IRC and discuss ways to promote your wiki. Hope this helps.
 * (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) Dmehus (talk) 15:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Images
Hello,

How to place the images to the right or left on a wiki page? And sorry for the "simple" question :) - Lois (talk) 18:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. In order to do that you would need to add a "|right" or "|left" to the image in question. For example, you'd do Examplefile.jpg in order to display that on the left of the page. I suggest that you also read The MediaWiki help page for images for more details and more options for images. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 19:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, thank you, I already understand it :) I will review these html codes again. Thanks :) - Lois (talk) 13:16, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Wrong URL for my wiki
Sorry to disturb you, but my wiki Codewiki is at wikicode.miraheze.org, when the URL in the request says codewiki.miraheze.org. If there was some issue with that one then it's fine, but if I can have the URL changed that would be great.

Thanks,

Seemplez (talk) 06:35, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I'll change the name. Seemplez (talk) 06:39, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the question. I didn't change your URL, as this is a discouraged practice for wiki creator to do. Now that it's created, though, this will require you to request on Phabricator, using your MediaWiki login for Miraheze with the magic of OAuth, and then a system administrator will be able to change both your subdomain and your database name. Unless you just meant your sitename, maybe? If just your sitename, then yes, you can change that easily in Special:ManageWiki on your wiki. Dmehus (talk) 14:52, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Question
Hello Dmehus,

I would like to ask you, that can I be a member on the Test wiki? Can I translate it too? (Maybe translation admin?) Thanks :) - Lois (talk) 16:36, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Certainly. We don't have a separate translation administrator user group on TestWiki, since anyone can be an administrator (and a bureaucrat after at least 24 hours and 10 edits and assuming they're trustworthy, which you are). So, I'll grant you administrator, and with that, you can practice with the translation tools. On TestWiki, the key things to keep in mind are the following:
 * Adhere to TestWiki:Policies, especially TestWiki:Main policy and mh:test:TestWiki:Testing policy, reverting all tests in the reverse order in which performed;
 * We have special purpose test pages on which you can test administrator tools;
 * For translations, it's a really good practice after marking a page for translation with Special:PageTranslation, to check the Special:Contributions/FuzzyBot and Special:Log/FuzzyBot pages to make sure that FuzzyBot has completed your request before marking additional pages
 * For test blocks, it's recommended to test on either (a) yourself or (b) User:Example, a globally locked testing account on which you can perform tests; and,
 * If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me or the community at the community's portal.
 * -- Dmehus (talk) 17:09, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear Doug, thank you so much :) I read them. And I'll be a good admin and translator :) - Lois (talk) 05:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for fixing my userbox on my page and also for the correction on the Request for Steward page. I think you can probably tell that I am not very good with the more technical parts of wiki editing... DeeM28 (talk) 11:57, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech:Adding a new extension
The string I removed here doesn't fill any purpose, as the translation would only be the dummy string. So I removed it. --Raltseye (talk) 23:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's fair, but concern is that for that translation unit, which has already been created in Translations: namespace, it will still exist as FuzzyBot does not automatically remove dropped translation units from active pages. So I am mainly concerned about trying to prevent the build up of extraneous clutter in that namespace. Is it possible to just leave it as a valid translation unit, if it's not hurting anything, or possibly we could renumber the translation units by moving all the units from that number up by one? We'd still end up with T:20 that we don't need, which we could either (a) manually delete or (b) just leave as a blank translation unit, shelved for future use? Dmehus (talk) 23:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I actually don't how these things work behind the scenes, so I don't know what would be the best thing to do, but to delete it and not touch the other ones I think sounds like the best sollution. If it doesn't create any trouble I'd say just delete T:20 and let it be? Save it for future use if necessary. But if it's left in it doesn't really do any real "harm" perhaps, but it's unnecessary for translators to have an empty block just to copy the text and let it be. --Raltseye (talk) 00:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, I will do that then, sometime between now and tomorrow morning. Thanks again, and thanks for all your Swedish translation work. :) Dmehus (talk) 01:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries about when, it's no rush, also thank you! :) --Raltseye (talk) 03:33, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

A Wiki I requested
I mentioned on the Stewards' noticeboard that a Wiki I requested was still yet to be reviewed despite it being a while since I requested it. You told me you'd review it. Did you (or any other volunteer) review it, because it's still yet to be made? Imjustthere (talk) 21:10, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the question. I did check the "inreview" queue, but there was nothing. I did some quick digging, and found this wiki request. Is that the one? If so, it was declined by wiki creator as it needs more information on what the contents of your wiki will be. What will be the topic, scope, and purpose of/for your wiki be, essentially? Also, you should've received an e-mail notification for this, so you may want to check if you have provided a confirmed e-mail address in your preferences. Hope that helps Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 21:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Translation administrator
Hi, sorry to bother you, but how long will this take? I also wonder if this applies to the Template wiki and the Commons? Because I have translated all the pages there. I also edited on all the pages on the template wiki and would like to edit the main pages as well, but those are protected. Could you perhaps take care of this? --Raltseye (talk) 22:18, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the delay. I have to prepare the translation administrator guidelines, so I should be in a position to make you a translation administrator on Meta or later tomorrow. There's no global translation administrator group, that would be a useful global group, I think, to be honest. Nevertheless, when I add you as a translation administrator on Meta, I will ping a Commons and Template wiki bureaucrat to add you as a translation administrator on those wikis. Dmehus (talk) 22:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. --Raltseye (talk) 22:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Wiki Request #14621
Sorry for sending a message at early morning at your time zone, Dmehus. I have replied to your message at Special:RequestWikiQueue/14621 although it seems a bit late, so I just want to leave a message here just in case you might didn't see my reply. Thanks! 谷杭小包子 (talk) 15:50, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's not too early, actually, only around 9:30 am now. I am looking at your wiki request, and have just edited the request so it goes back to "inreview," from "declined." It seems pretty good to me, as it's mostly or entirely historical. So, just to be clear you don't propose to write about current living people? It's all related to the social, political, and cultural history of the People's Republic of China during the Qing dynasty? Do I have that right, or mostly right? Dmehus (talk) 16:36, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No, I don't propose to include real living people in the wiki. There might be some made-up characters and stuffs based on the role play setting of our forum, but I think a portion of the wiki will also be about historical people and places, even political systems of China at the Qing Dynasty (not really the PRC, there wasn't PRC yet at that time).谷杭小包子 (talk) 01:08, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the clarification. This LGTM now then. I will approve. Dmehus (talk) 01:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! 谷杭小包子 (talk) 01:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Dmehus (talk) 02:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Regarding this edit on Gazetteer of wikis
I removed those wikis since they were small and not active anymore so I saw no reason to keep them, besides it's an informal list so we have obligation to keep them either. --Raltseye (talk) 09:11, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, fair enough, though to be honest, I think any wiki can be included in the Gazetteer of wikis. As long as someone wants their wikis in there, we include them, as far as I'm aware, though they can be removed if the wiki becomes closed. Also, I don't think it makes sense to include private wikis' in the Gazetteer; I should check with what the conventions and customs are for the Gazetteer though. Regarding your translation administrator, I haven't forgotten, and aim to have the guidelines finalized and should be able to grant you rights today or tomorrow at the latest. Dmehus (talk) 09:35, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright, that seems fair. --Raltseye (talk) 09:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi
I'm new here. How can ppl find my miraheze?? Hrvcfr (talk) 01:44, 11 October 2020 (UTC) Reentered my miraheze Hrvcfr (talk) 01:51, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you mean your wiki? If so, you can add your wiki to the Gazetteer of wikis. You can also enable Extension:Add HTML Meta and Title on your wiki to be able to add metadata HTML tags to improve your search engine score. You can also post a single thread on community noticeboard noting your Miraheze wiki and inviting volunteers for your wiki. You can join us on Discord, promote your wiki's Discord server, and discuss search engine optimization strategies. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I'm not good at writing but I try my best. Bear with me please. Hrvcfr (talk) 02:20, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It's no problem, though your wiki request still needs more detail before it can be approved. Why don't we start by reframing your Miraheze and wiki introduction. What prompted you to create this wiki? How did you find Miraheze? Do you have any account(s) on other wikis (not necessarily Miraheze)? If so, which one(s), and what's your account username(s) there? This will help me help you better. Dmehus (talk) 02:24, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ty Hrvcfr (talk) 19:22, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

What are your thoughts on the Gazetteer of wikis?
Normally, you won't edit much except for wikis that use your Native language. (i.e. It can be edited and the description of the wiki you are interested in can be understood without translation.) Therefore, I don't think the Gazetteer of wikis needs to be translated. I think it is necessary to discuss what to do with pages other than the English version. I'm wondering whether to discuss with CN or RfC.thanks.--松•Matsu (talk) 02:25, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a good argument, and I'm personally indifferent on maintaining or discontinuing translations of Gazetteer of wikis. We do have some multilingual wikis, for instance, so translations could be helpful, but they don't list their wikis as frequently in the Gazetteer. That probably needs a short discussion (lasting at least five calendar days) on community noticeboard. With a clear proposal and at least 5 people expressing view (other than the proposer), that should be sufficient. Though not required, I'd recommending drafting a proposal as a subpage of your userspace outlining the pros and cons and your rationale for how you arrived at your recommendation. Dmehus (talk) 02:30, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice.I agree to create a user subpage because we need to discuss what to do with non-English pages.The title is "About the handling of each language of Gazetteer of wikis", but I would like advice if there is any good title.--松•Matsu (talk) 02:41, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry.Withdraw.It seems that it's better to think of a new page or wiki than to revise an existing page, which is working well.--松•Matsu (talk) 10:13, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for deleting the page.I chose to keep the status quo because I don't know if the newly created page will stay active even if the proposal goes well.It would be nice if there were more translators, but the current situation is not enough.By the way, I really like the features of your talk page on the test wiki and the summaries you created.--松•Matsu (talk) 12:22, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Just lost admin access to my Wiki
Hello, while I was working on user groups for my Wiki, I accidentally deleted  rights which made me manage the Wiki settings. Now I can’t manage my Wiki settings. What can I do? --Synoman Barris (talk) 17:03, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Is that the only user group with  access? If so, you will need to have a steward attend your wiki. This is such a common sense case that I could ping them on Discord to re-add your right, without you going through the hassle of holding a local election. Dmehus (talk) 17:11, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ for you. I see what happened; you accidentally removed all user rights from your top-level user group. Dmehus (talk) 17:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do that. FWIW I got your message and I am ready with the list.--Synoman Barris (talk) 17:19, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much --Synoman Barris (talk) 17:20, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * By the way, I assume this is the case, but are you the same as the Synoman Barris on the Wikimedia wikis? If you are able to do a quick Miraheze confirmation edit to any page of any Wikimedia wiki from that account, that would be awesome. I'd like to grant your account  on Meta, but given the low number of Meta edits, I'd have an easier time justifying it with a confirmation edit. Dmehus (talk) 17:25, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Done, see your en.wiki talk page. Cheers --Synoman Barris (talk) 17:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * See your Discord, I just sent a request as MG (M.Barris). I want to ask you something concerning public test. Cheers --Synoman Barris (talk) 19:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ John (talk) 19:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Protection on Community noticeboard
Hi, thanks for protect the Community noticeboard but, if I remember, this would not preventing Revibot to archive dicussions because of "Allow only logged in users" ? 👀 HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 05:20, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm wondering if I should create a new wiki
I'm thinking of a narrower range than the template wiki.The wiki contains only a few templates that we really need to get started with the wiki.Ideally, just copy the dump file for this wiki and the wiki will start right away.thanks.--松•Matsu (talk) 16:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you define narrower range of Miraheze Template Wiki a bit more? We also have Miraheze Developers Wiki, which focuses on gadgets and user scripts, but lack of activity, really, has me contemplating a merge with Template Wiki eventually. Your idea of having a few essential templates to get started could be solved, I think, by creating a page in Main namespace, linking to the essential templates and describing their purpose. I wouldn't think there would be any issues with you adding templates to Template Wiki. As long as they have a clear Miraheze focus or use case, they should be allowed. If you need any additional permissions, such as  or , let me know, and I can request them for you. Dmehus (talk) 16:45, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for introducing me to the wiki and I'll check it out.The reason I suggested it was because I would like to make it easier for people without knowledge of wiki templates, modules, and CSS to get started.I think copying the template in the template wiki is one solution, but I think there are too many templates in the template wiki. (i.e.It is necessary to understand the necessary templates and select only the necessary templates.) I find it difficult for wiki beginners to understand template dependencies. Miraheze can create a backup file for an entire wiki, so I think this feature will make it easier to get started with the wiki.--松•Matsu (talk) 17:31, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not opposed to your idea, but I do think we could overcome this challenge by categorizing all templates included as part of a "template starter pack" category. Then, we could use a wikilink or external link to link to that Special:Export page with that category prefilled in the export solution. Whether on a separate wiki or Miraheze Template Wiki, they'd still need to use Special:Export. Nevertheless, if you still decide a separate wiki is required, I'll create it for you, with the stipulation that this be a community wiki, and that local bureaucrats can be changed either (a) locally on that wiki or (b) on community noticeboard by the global community. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 17:40, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That's a nice idea.If we put it in a category, it seems easy to do. It might be nice to put the category "template starter pack" in the meta.--松•Matsu (talk) 17:50, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd definitely be keen to link to the finished template starter pack on Meta. We would create a brief, not too long, page on Meta that describes, or even transcludes, the starter pack page on Miraheze Template Wiki to new wiki creators. We could then add a link to the starter pack on Miraheze Template Wiki on the default Main Page that is included on every wiki's creation. Would that be helpful? Dmehus (talk) 18:19, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * First of all, thank you for deleting the accidentally created page on the developer wiki and for giving me the necessary permissions to do the work. Well, your suggestion, I think it will be very helpful. Default Main Page already posted a link to the MediaWiki guide, but when I started the wiki I didn't know what I didn't understand in the first place. I tried to do what I could do with other wikis and introduced templates for other wikis, but it didn't work.In short, I didn't know the CSS, modules and templates needed for the template to work. Many editors don't think they are very interested in what tools are needed to make the template they are using work when editing. (i.e. They aren't interested in MediaWiki features themselves, they often want to edit them conveniently.) Therefore, the "template starter pack" list is very helpful for users who have their own wiki for the first time. If there is any addition to your suggestion, it would be to add a link to this guide in the "But Miraheze, I still don't understand X!" Section.This guide will give you a better understanding of "X!".(Just joking);-)--松•Matsu (talk) 03:48, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Declined
I understand just thought a simple news wiki would work. That's all. Hrvcfr (talk) 22:30, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That's fine, and it may well be a great idea for a wiki, but as of now, you have 9 edits on one of your wikis and 13 on the other one. In total, you have 75 global edits. As I stated in the wiki request, I understand, but I would rather see you work on your other two wikis and help out on other wikis first. Give it 30 days and come November 13th or so, you can go back into Special:RequestWikiQueue/14750 and rerequest this wiki. How does that sound? Dmehus (talk) 22:38, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It's good but no one has contributed to my vgs wiki yet. Hrvcfr (talk) 22:40, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * And they may not, to be perfectly honest. As I said on your user talk page, creating and editing informational wikis can be a very solitary activity, edited only by you and, sometimes, a few friends or colleagues. Eventually, if your wiki has significant content made to be read by people, the content, invariably, will bring readers and, in turn, contributors. Dmehus (talk) 22:53, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * sorry again Doug but I love travel and would contribute a lot to the travel guide miraheze if created. Just asking not expecting anything since news wiki got declined. Thnx. Hrvcfr (talk) 08:09, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Doug you around??? Hrvcfr (talk) 23:15, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly busy with Miraheze community-related things. I would suggest try asking on Discord. Regarding your travel guide, I would strongly recommend against it. You do seem to be creating wikis for the sake of creating wikis. A wiki with no or little content is hardly a wiki. Dmehus (talk) 13:17, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Mywikipedia.miraheze.org
What is your opinion on mywikipedia.miraheze.org? --Iron Sword 22 (talk) 18:31, 16 October 2020 (UTC)