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Template:Location map~ doesn't work on my wiki
Hello everyone. On my wiki, https://mypersonal.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page, the template "Location map~" doesn't seem to work. I copied it from a fandom wiki and there it works perfectly, but on my wiki, it displays "<.div style="position: absolute; z-index: 2; top: Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".%; left: Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".%; height: 0; width: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;">" and shows the red dot with the city name next to it. I tried to look for those brackets that it doesn't recognize but found nothing. Thank you in advance, hope you can help me! <3 Btw sorry yesterday I mistakenly wrote this on the archive. :P
 * I'm not familiar with Fandom/Wikia (I preferred the Wikia name, personally), but it's quite likely they use a modified markup to render their pages. Have you tried removing the preceding period for the "div" tag that precedes the "style" attribute? That's the only think stands out to me from your quoted text. I haven't yet looked at your wiki, though. As for accidentally posted to the archive, thanks for letting us know. has already removed it. In future if you make an error like that, you can go back as soon as realize and hit "undo" on your edit(s). If you're the most recent editor, you can still undo both edits without rollback rights. Dmehus (talk) 14:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, please remember to sign your posts with ~ as a bot automatically archives threads according to the date of last activity. Without a timestamp, it's not necessarily able to do its job (although in this case, it would've, since I replied). Still, signing identifies who is posting. I've added your signature for you with unsigned. Dmehus (talk) 15:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

No longer able to add people to groups
Hi! I'm an admin at companybumpers.miraheze.org and after my last visit to the permissions settings, I don't know how, but the admin and bureaucrat groups are no longer able to add people to any other groups. The Group Assignments tab seemed like the logical place to fix this, but nothing worked. Would you have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Hb1290 (talk) 10:07, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I guess it's because of a server-side issue. Try deleting your cookies on all miraheze domains. --Jack980517 (talk) 20:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed! IDK why, but when I tried fixing it the first time, the Group Assignments table had totally different groups in it for some reason. When I went back in today, the normal groups were showing. That outage the other day was just after the problem happened, so maybe that had something to do with it. Hb1290 (talk) 02:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Need help on category suppression
w:Wikipedia:Category Suppression says: "you need to surround the categorization code with, otherwise your template itself will be categorized."

However, I tried this on mh:silentblue:Template:maimai Difficulty, and the template itself is still added into the categories, and I don't want that. The categories are only meant to have the pages that the templates are transcluded on.

How can I achieve what I want? Thanks.

Jack980517 (talk) 18:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see it. My initial guess is that something in this rat's nest is mismatched (curly braces or tags).  If the   is not in order when encountered, then the   would be ignored as well.   03:26 11-Jun-2020


 * Oh, for Pete's sake! Your Usage (with  ) contains a use of itself as an example!  So the template is one of "the pages that the templates are transcluded on"!  Mystery solved   03:31 11-Jun-2020  I recommend that you write code that inhibits output of the categories if the target is in the Template: namespace.   03:34 11-Jun-2020


 * Thank you very much. I somehow overlooked that the noinclude portion contains a transclusion lol... --Jack980517 (talk) 06:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I was going to suggest that, but wasn't quite sure if it was that simple. Glad you got it resolved, . Dmehus (talk) 03:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Code of Conduct Commission reform RfC
As was the case with the CVT reform earlier, it is time to reform the CoCC which in its current form presents many flaws and challenges. Here is my current draft, feel free to make suggestions and edits before it's published as an RfC! Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I have a question about the results of the Zppix poll held in Requests for global rights
Granted, it doesn't meet the appointment requirements stipulated in the Global Sysop policy, but it seems to meet the requirements of Proposal 4.1.I would like to hear your opinion on which standard should be adopted.If you write it in the wrong place, we would appreciate it if you could move it to the right place.Thanks.--松 (talk) 01:00, 12 June 2020 (UTC)fix.--松 (talk) 01:02, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The reasoning behind my approach is;


 * 4.1 states “During this 5 day period they will remain in the group.”
 * There was no time limit enacted on requesting confirmation.
 * A CVT member who never requests a confirmation, retains rights the community have voted to abolish.
 * Therefore, in closing the RfC I said; “Anyone who fails to create one by this deadline will be deemed 'resigned'.” As a CVT member who does not opt to move from an abolished group to an established group, is effectively not requesting access to the new group. As such, abolishment of a group effectively ceases to have the previous group membership.
 * A 7-day period was given from close of RfC for a user to trigger a confirmation before the CVT group was going to be technically abolished.
 * Both CVT and Global Sysop policies have the revocation clause of “rights revoked for any reason, they must make a successful request that satisfies the criteria above in order to regain the rights.”
 * As such, a user who has their rights removed for not initiating a confirmation request in the 7 day period, of which was not objected to by anyone - including the user who acknowledged they needed to start the request within 7 days of the RfC - has had their rights removed. To which policy mandates they go through a full request to regain the rights.
 * Had circumstances which prevented the request from being filed reasonably within 7 days had been notified to a Steward, discretion may have been applied, or alternatively another user could have asked for confirmation of the rights without any issue.
 * The above is full reasoning behind my handling of this situation as backed up by written policy and common sense applied otherwise. John (talk) 01:21, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I see.I still thought Zppix was at CVT, but it seemed to be my misunderstanding.Thank you for teaching me.--松 (talk) 04:17, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

internal error
An internal error has occurred. Can it be repaired?--雪津風明石 (talk) 04:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In Warships Wiki.--雪津風明石 (talk) 04:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * (Add)If it cannot be repaired, is it possible to delete it and have it recreated?--雪津風明石 (talk) 05:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll ping here, in case they hadn't seen this discussion. Dmehus (talk) 03:32, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Void wouldn't be much help here, I've poked a sysadmin to look. Next time, please report on  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  13:41, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, this has been fixed. Paladox (talk) 13:49, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks—I wasn't certain if it was a wiki owner-caused issue or something to do with the server configuration, but in any case, yeah, that's something that should get a quicker response on Phab. Will do., thanks for the follow-up and/or fixing. Dmehus (talk) 14:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

No match was found
I have a problem with the search on my wiki. When user try to find something in the full version of the wiki in the quick tips box it writes that no match was found. When user press enter button, mediawiki redirects to an existing article or search page with results. Sometimes quick results work. Maybe something on wiki broke search? Problems with the fast preview too --Kwack (talk) 13:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

"Loss of session data" happened again
As before, clearing all miraheze cookies fixed it. Just posting here to notify people about it. --Jack980517 (talk) 11:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Need help on Navboxes
mh:silentblue:Template:Kotonoha Project

Why do the lists show as normal lists instead of horizontal ones like on Wikipedia? --Jack980517 (talk) 13:02, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Because they're formatted using asterisks that precede each item. I believe on English Wikipedia, it's customary to use a special character that resembles a small dot, aligned vertically in the middle of the text that precedes and follows it, to separate the list items. Have a look at w:Template:Canadian banks for the character I mean. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:12, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If you look at the source code of the template that you linked to, you'll see that it uses the asterisk as well. All example code on w:Template:Navbox/doc uses the asterisk, and that was what I followed. There's some kind of transformation going on on Wikipedia that converts normal lists to the horizontal ones which is absent on my wiki. FWIW, the guide on copying Navbox to other wikis at w:Template Talk:Navbox isn't quite clear; it doesn't even specify which parts of Common.css to copy, for example, although I worked that out on my own. I did copy all 5 lua modules mentioned there. --Jack980517 (talk) 13:17, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair point. It seems like there's a dependent template, Hclass, that is also needed as it creates the horizontally styled lists. I would recommend exporting w:Template:Hclass, preferably all revisions so you are backward compatible on the CC licensing, and then use Special:Import to import it to your wiki. Let me know if that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:32, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into it. w:Template:Hclass doesn't exist though. --Jack980517 (talk) 13:40, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It does. That's a typo in my wikilink above. It is Hlist. You can grab it at w:Template:Hlist. Hope that helps? ;-) Dmehus (talk) 13:47, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I imported w:Template:Hlist and w:Module:List, and it didn't help. Jack980517 (talk) 14:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: that was a capitalization problem because I turned off $wgCapitalLinks. But now Module:List complains that Module:TableTools is not found. The dependency tree just gets deeper and deeper... I guess I'll just not use this conversion at all. Jack980517 (talk) 14:21, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Go to the wiki page that has the template you want to import and click the edit button on that page. You probably won't be able to edit it, but you should see the modules and templates the template is using.--松 (talk) 16:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

My private wiki is throwing an error saying "Fatal exception of type MWException" on every page, and is unusable

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

This discussion was moved to Stewards' noticeboard (permanent link). Dmehus (talk) 17:20, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

My wiki link is https://prodlegendsdiscussion.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

I was setting up some user groups, then, after pressing "submit", I begin getting this same error on every page. I can't do anything on the wiki now.

I really need help with this, thanks DaChickenKingboi (talk) 16:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC) . Dmehus (talk) 17:13, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like you've changed a setting that now requires reversion by a system administrator or steward. I'm moving this to SN. Please don't reply to this thread.
 * Moved to: Stewards' noticeboard


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

Is my wiki broken?
So i made an wiki called Ideapedia. Source editor works, but VisualEditor doesn't. Also, the icon (not the favicon) doesn't appear. Please help! -AwesomePie16 08:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * When doing the logo/favicon, open up the target file in a new tab, the url should look something like https:// static.miraheze.org/somewiki/xx/x/name.file. So, for example, your favicon would be https://static.miraheze.org/ideapediawiki/8/8b/Favicon_%2813%29.ico instead of https://ideapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Favicon_(13).ico. For VisualEditor, do be sure to go through all the namespaces in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces, and enable visual editor for that namespace. -- Void  Whispers 22:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Popups not working
Hello! I'm unsure if this is an error or something on my end, so I apologize if this is in the wrong place.

On the My Little Pony wiki, the popups function stopped working a few months back when the login server changed. I made a post about it on Phabricator, but it was closed within a day, saying that they should be working fine since some of the extensions got merged. I decided not to make a post about it since I assumed it was something on my end, but nothing I try seems to suggest that. I have both PopUps and TextExtracts enabled, and have checked Show Popups By Default in Special:ManageWiki/settings, but nothing works. I tried logging in and out but still nothng. Same error happens on Hilda wiki.

Any idea how to fix this? Or is it an error? --Amelia (talk) 17:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I Can't Create Garbage Video Game Items Wiki For Some Reason
I am trying to create Garbage Video Game Items Wiki, where I will discuss the worst video game items. However, it won't let me do so because it keeps saying, "Your wiki request contains an invalid character." I typed everything correctly and double-checked for invalid characters, and it turns out there aren't any invalid characters. Can you please figure out the problem? HammerBro101 (talk) 01:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The description may have contained the improper characters specified in the blacklist. Please request again without these characters, or tell us the wiki you want to create and the reasons here. --そらたこ (talk) 06:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Where do I register my thanks to you? From Idea to live in 7 hours!
The subject says it all.
 * Your welcome :) ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  22:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Identity
I am more than confused regarding my identity when interacting with Miraheze or it's representatives and/or community.

Of course, I am a newbie here – my wiki went online only 2 days back. So, much experience to be gathered. This is not a criticism of the resources and free hosting that Miraheze has supplied. It is more in the way of asking a question.

It seems that Miraheze provides a plethora of means by which I can contact a human but they are not all immediately transparent as to how each should be/are used.

I will list them here, for the avoidance of doubt;

Contact us   • IRC: #miraheze (recommended) • Discord: https://discord.is/miraheze • Facebook: Miraheze • Twitter: @miraheze • On-wiki: Help center

For reasons specific to me, none of these are viable means of casual chat like, for example, "How do I get yellow text on a black background?". Sure, the answer is "Look at Mediawiki – they have loads of help". And they do, and that question would be answered. No problem.

It is not the answer that is my problem, it is the medium by which I am forced to ask any question. That is my problem. Maybe it is only MY problem.

We can discard Facebook and Twitter since I refuse to give those entities any semblance of control in my life. I have discarded IRC because I really do not want to learn another new thing (I'm already learning wikimedia and wikidata) and the On-wiki Help centre is not a chat channel.

That leaves Discord. I am very familiar with that and use it for two completely separate slices of my online life. So I went there. It turns out that it needs an email address. Does it? Does it really?

Yes. It does. Not only that – it needs a password to associate that email address to. Which password? A new one? Or one that I use with Discord? Which of my two identities on Discord does it want? Or does it want a third one? Or one that I will only use with Miraheze? Or one that I use with my Bank? No help nor hint is supplied.

Perhaps someone here can do better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianwade75 (talk • contribs) 23:24, 16 June 2020‎ (UTC)
 * I was pretty sure that the discord server simply required having an email registered to your discord account. So long as you have verified that email address, you should be able to participate. If you're still having issues, I'm sure we can try and figure something out. -- Void  Whispers 00:19, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can ask questions on this page (as you just asked your meta-question about asking questions). I've provided formatting help and debugging here, or others might beat me to it.   22:31 19-Jun-2020

Can I change the domain of the URL?
Can I change the domain of the URL? I want to change the domain before ".miraheze.org". What should I do?--雪津風明石 (talk) 06:38, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is possible by changing the connection to the DB. If you can, could you create a task on Phabricator. --そらたこ (talk) 07:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)