Meta:Requests for permissions

ChioGaming2007 (Administrator)

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 * Request made in error; rights are not being requested on Meta. Please request on Stewards' noticeboard. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:22, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Group: Administrator Reason: I was in miraheze for about 2 years, I initially went to miraheze because I was interested in moving my wiki in the fandom to miraheze but because of problems the activity was canceled but after I was taken down from the Fandom I tried to move here, my friend has a Wiki here that is no longer used (link : https://tolololpedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Halaman_Utama ) i've opened the wiki but now i want to get more permissions so i can manage the wiki completely

Discussion
Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * 1)  Too early, as you only have 8 edits as of the time I'm writing this, not to mention the concern of hat-collecting, and it's too soon for you to be requesting Meta rights at this time. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:12, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * This is because I haven't used this account for 2 years and besides I have got permission from my friend to manage the wiki ChioGaming2007 (talk) 12:29, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @ChioGaming2007:Hello, you want to have sysop/admin on your wiki? HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 12:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course ChioGaming2007 (talk) 12:35, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Could you please confirm that you actually want admin rights on your wiki and not Meta? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 12:51, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Admin rights on my wiki are not meta ChioGaming2007 (talk) 12:54, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Because the friends who own the wiki don't need the wiki anymore, so I'm welcome to be an admin/owner there but unfortunately they forgot their account on miraheze ChioGaming2007 (talk) 12:57, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


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Arcversin (Administrator)

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 * Withdrawn with thanks to all participants for their comments and advise. — Arcversin (talk) 14:20, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Group: Administrator Reason: In light of recent vandal attacks, I would like to volunteer myself to take part in the development and maintenance of abuse filters used to counter vandal/LTA attacks. I have experience both with the abuse filter syntax (primarily from fighting spambots) and the regular expressions used by filters to detect potentially unconstructive edits (and other actions) with varying degrees of certainty. I will of course also be available for routine maintenance tasks/antivandalism, but my primary realm of activity as an administrator will be the abuse filter. — Arcversin (talk) 02:46, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Discussion
Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.


 * 1)  We have a lot of vandalism here now. Quantity is becoming more important now  Anpang 📨  02:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , regrettably. While I do thank you for stepping up to the administrator batting plate, I think it is too soon for you to be requesting the  bit. Indeed, regex knowledge is helpful but you seem to base yourself off that entirely in this RfP and not so much so on other aspects of adminship. You are more than welcome to assist administrators on Discord, IRC, or in private on those two venues on making effective abuse filters and that should be no impediment to you helping the Meta community. Additionally, I feel like this request was made too soon after your previous, unsuccessful RfP. Furthermore, you seem to barely have 260 edits, I would like to see more activity too before supporting. For these reasons, I must oppose. Let this not be a stumbling stone to you however, you are more than welcome to continue contributing to Miraheze Meta and to keep assisting users as you do on Discord and on-wiki as a wiki creator. I think there is great potential in everyone and I would like to encourage you to keep volunteering as you do currently.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:01, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I certainly did not mean for the focus on the abuse filter in my request statement to interpreted as an indication that I would neglect or ignore other areas of adminship, which I most definitely would not. Rather, I focused on that aspect because countering the recent flare-up in vandal attacks is my primary impetus/rationale for making this request. I will also note that developing effective filters is not particularly feasible without access to the tools, as you cannot use the testing/development/debugging interface provided by the extension, nor can you access the content, logs, or history of private filters, which severely hampers your ability to evaluate their effectiveness, for example by using log-only mode to safely test the usefulness of new filters. I will also note that solely looking at edit count can be a bit misleading, given that they don't include logged activity such as wiki creations. — Arcversin (talk) 03:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Some of our abuse filters are actually tested first on the Public Test Wiki, that could serve as a test ground for any proposed abuse filter. Additionally, there is precedent where local administrators have shared some abuse filters with highly trusted users for the purposes of helping tweak or improve them. As for the edit count, my main point was that I would like to see you interact more with the community, not so much see more activity. I know you're one of our most active wiki creators but I would certainly like to see trust in you built up before seeing you as an administrator. Trust is very important, how can the community support an administrator who they've barely interacted with? My point still stands too that this request feels like it was made too soon after your previously unsuccessful RfP. I would've at least liked you to have waited a few more months along with having contributed more to Meta on the noticeboards and such. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:44, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That is a good point about the Public Test Wiki, but I will note that requires the vandal to actually target that wiki (and that it's not an LTA who would get sysop there), and that still does not allow access to the filter development tools or logs with regards to edits on metawiki. I understand the concern regarding this being potentially too soon after the previous request, I wouldn't have done so this soon afterwards if not in response to the recent vandal attacks. — Arcversin (talk) 04:02, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Why would it be required that a spammer first spam the test wiki before you're able to make an abuse filter? You can observe behavior on Meta and tweak your filter on the PTW accordingly and then propose it to the attending sysop and see what happens. Additionally, what logs could you need from Meta that are not publicly visible? What matters are the edits that were let through, the ones which weren't caught by any AbuseFilter. The ones which were caught by the AF aren't very relevant but even so, we can usually examine the caught entries. We also have many Meta sysops would are Consuls and sysops on there, certainly development can't be hindered because a Meta sysop here doesn't have rights over there. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 04:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, I thought you were referring to using PTW as a place to actually test filters. In the process of developing abuse filters, you'll very often set a new filter to log-only mode in order to catch false positives before actually setting it to warn or deny. — Arcversin (talk) 05:07, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  My comments since the last request remain valid despite the vandalism attacks that took place since that was simply an isolated event. With the addition that I do not think it is a very good idea to try to request administrator so soon after having withdrawn a previous request. I would recommend waiting another month or so at least before reconsidering to request. --DeeM28 (talk) 06:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) . per above Comments, i have no concerns towards this candidate --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 13:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)


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Muhammad Alfarezal (Wiki creator)

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 * As for your RfGR, your reason is copied word for word from this previous thread. This amounts to plagiarism and is inappropriate for a permissions request. Closing rather than reverting due to existing vote. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 05:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Group: Wiki creator Reason: I am going to try this, I understand the policies/per content policy and know that there are hours of requests being stale for hours. Most of my requests are well understood. but, I know how Meta operates and can contribute a lot more as a wiki creator to help users get their wiki's made faster. Muhammad Alfarezal (talk) 08:48, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Discussion
Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * 1)  I have two main reasons for opposing this request. First of all even though this is not strictly a requirement for wiki creator I am concerned that your level of English is not sufficient in order to effectively function as wiki creator as I do not even fully understand your rationale for requesting wiki creator (for example -"my requests are well understood"). Second of all  my main issue is the fact that have not been very active at all and most of your edits are either to your own sandbox or edits that do not necessarily improve Meta which makes it is difficult to determine whether you would be an appropriate choice for this role. I would recommend that you wait until requesting again. --DeeM28 (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


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Agent Isai (Administrator)
Group: Administrator Reason: I am requesting the administrator right as I wish to help out more locally and would be able to do so better with the tools in the administrator toolset. At this present moment, I am a local wiki creator, patroller, rollbacker, translation administrator, and interface administrator. Globally, I am also an Interwiki administrator. I am active in all roles as can be evidenced by logs.

As a regular contributor to Meta, I frequently embark on rewrites of pages to expand them from stub status or to make them easier to read and more intuitive for our newer users with over 3,000 total edits here on Meta. Some examples of pages I’ve rewritten or expanded are Help center, Wikimedia Foundation, Extensions, Skins, ManageWiki, MediaWiki, Contributing and many others. As any Meta, Discord or IRC regular can attest, I am always online and always reachable via public means such as our Discord server and IRC. As a wiki creator, I am one of the most active with over 2000 actioned requests and over 1000 created wikis since I became a wiki creator.

I am requesting administrator so that I can further help the community and improve Meta. There are some pages that are rightfully protected at a sysop level such as Requests, FAQ, Security and others which could use an expansion to make them more intuitive for our newer users and I would like to embark on that task. It might be unduly burdensome to request that our often busy sysops unprotect a page and then reprotect it after edits are finished or to copy over drafts for pages and such so I believe it would benefit me to be able to edit these pages in order to expand these and make them easier to understand. Another tool which I believe would be of great use is  which may be useful when moving pages, especially when moving pages with lots of subpages. I have run into some issues where I have moved pages with lots of subpages (an example would be Community Wishlist 2021) and have inadvertently caused dozens of useless redirects or move a page and then have to wait for an administrator to delete an old redirect that had no use.

Equally,  would be of great use. I often times find myself having to fix existing, highly used Meta templates which were wrongly copy and pasted without importing all of it’s dependencies and thus cause some inadvertent issues on some high traffic pages. For example, I have had to manually import templates such as such as Template:BCP47 and many highly useful documentation pages or style subpages in order to fix some broken templates like Ambox and all of it’s derivatives. This is not the best approach as I am unable to import the history too which is recommended to import and I have to add a notice in my initial edit summary that a page was imported from an external wiki. It would be beneficial to have the ability to import the history for proper attribution and to fix many templates which were mainly copy and pasted from other wikis and have no attribution at all which is definitely a copyright violation so as to not overwhelm the current administrators with these tasks. I would also attend to normal administrator duties such as clerking the nominations for deletion and Administrators’ noticeboard. I have pages such as the AN on my watchlist and as a regular patroller of the Meta IRC feed, I am always up to date and informed on current activities happening on Meta and would be able to action requests in a timely manner and resolve any issues that may face the local community.

As a local administrator, I would also be able to to action and deter any attempts at spam and vandalism against Meta. While Meta has historically been a small project, as we grow, so do the number of long term abusers and vandals that attack Meta (which is to be expected as Miraheze grows and nears 7000 wikis). While historically the spam and vandalism has been low, there are moments where it does increase. A few weeks ago, we had 3 long term abusers active at the same time on Meta which is a new record. These LTAs disrupt the project by making bad use of the wiki request queue and making many spam pages that sometimes overwhelm whichever sysop is online to handle it (that is, if there is an active administrator online). It’s understandable that sometimes our administrators are busy as they juggle their day to day activities and volunteering through their multiple hats so I believe having another user who is active to assist in administrative duties would be very beneficial to the project. I speak on a regular basis to many local administrators and global officials so I know we’re all sometimes busy and that’s perfectly understandable. As an administrator, I would be able to temporarily protect targets for vandalism, delete any spam pages that were created and block any disruptive users or long term abusers in the meanwhile while global functionaries look into it along with being able to set up some AbuseFilters which would help deter any spam temporarily or in the long run. As an active user too, I would certainly help relieve some backlogs that are created. I will admit, Meta does enjoy of 7 administrators but out of all of these, a good portion is unfortunately unable to devote time to Meta due to other obligations and aren’t regularly around or are around but sometimes only to handle one thing every month or so. There are moments in which we have no administrators around to action some simple tasks which has caused some users to wonder if we need more active administrators so I believe that the addition of an active administrator to the administrators group here on Meta would be beneficial to the project. I look forward to any questions and I thank you for your consideration.

Discussion
Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.


 * 1)  Trusted, member of the SRE team. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 18:18, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  I have no doubt that being a Meta Administrator is going to be much easier for you. Go for it dude. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  Having considered the rationale provided I have decided to support this request. I have had a look at Agent Isai's contributions to Meta and I think that they demonstrate that not only is he very active but he also regularly does changes in order to improve Meta and is very helpful generally. As for the necessity of new administrators I would not go as far as to say there is a pressing need but since the previous time I have voted in such a request the number of administrators has decreased and it seems to me that the activity of the administrators has also somewhat decreased, so in this case I would think another addition could be good for the project. As a final point I hope that if this request is successful (or even if not) Agent Isai will help with more reforms on Meta to allow it to reach its potential because it currently seems underutilized. --DeeM28 (talk) 07:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 4) Support – no concerns. Startus (talk) 12:10, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 5)  I believe considering all he's done to help users...it would be wise of me to support the request. Good luck!  Hypercane  (  talk ) 12:41, 6 May 2022 (UTC)