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Whitlisting main pages of private wikis
Hello, I think that private wiki's mainpages should be whitelisted, as it's not a really good approach for a user to see that he's not allowed to edit the page. It also would be good for the mainpage to be public, so users can have a summary about what the wiki is about. I cannot think of other reasons but there probably are more. --Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 17:08, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * They should be already. John (talk) 17:09, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I asked SPF and he just answered me "They're not.", so I thought they weren't supposed to be. --Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 17:10, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Works now. Seems to be --Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 17:13, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Bug related to multiple sections with the same name
I have a page with three headings named "Criticisms" (all level 3 headings). The internal links are #Criticisms, #Criticisms_2, #Criticisms_3. When I edit #Criticisms_3, upon saving it takes me to #Criticisms. It should take me to #Criticisms_3. Elliotolds (talk) 21:40, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 03:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Will look soon when I have more time. Southparkfan (talk) 11:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a long-standing MediaWiki issue. Wynter (talk) 04:49, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

How is this being financed?
There is no such thing as a free lunch, right?! This seems too generous to be true, so how do you propose to finance the hosting? And is there a back story? Were you frustrated that there was nowhere to put your wiki on Antiguan calypso and decided that you need a calypso spirit of sharing? My guess is probably wrong, but perhaps the founders could share your ideas and ideals in the FAQ. (I tried to post this on the FAQ Talk page but it was lost in an edit conflict) SeekTruthFromFacts (talk) 12:18, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, the founders are pretty busy at the time, but maybe they will respond at a later moment. I am here since Miraheze started, basically, we get financed by donations. John and Southparkfan wanted to make a wiki that had more clear goals than Orain, and possibly a better response time. The rest I will let John and Southparkfan answer fully when they have time. --Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 15:12, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You can find an answer in our FAQ now. Southparkfan (talk) 15:14, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you; I think this is a helpful addition to the FAQ. SeekTruthFromFacts (talk) 12:43, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Uoops, I've set wrong Language!
Sorry about that I left that section, but I just forgot set Language to ko - 한국어 instead of the default value(en - English) in my request. I'm not sure it's possible but may I ask you to fix the Language blank to ko - 한국어? Sorry about that! --Lagoon (talk) 09:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, will change it to ko. --Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 11:13, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, User:Reception123! Thanks for letting know that you have checked my request! However, seems I didn't get any right in there, would you like to check it if possible? Thanks so much! X) --Lagoon (talk) 11:20, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I cannot as it is private  --<font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 11:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Rights assigned. Will look into why the extension did not grant them. John (talk) 11:27, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hehe, thanks so much for both! X) --Lagoon (talk) 11:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Wiki creator
Hello, I would like to apply as a wiki creator. For users who don't know me, I am TheTVFan and I come from Italy. I joined Miraheze in September 2015. In the past, I was bureaucrat and administrator of TestWiki and founder of Serie TV Wiki on Orain. I would like to become a wiki creator to help users creating new wikis and expand the world of Miraheze. Best regards, --TheTVFan (talk) 10:35, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Why not? We do need as many wiki creators as possible. Preferably come on IRC and talk to us. And please read this <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 11:23, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I havre read the page and joined you in the IRC channel. --TheTVFan (talk) 12:17, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Cannot find wiki I created, oops, it just takes a few minutes
Hi, new user here. I'm familiar with editing wikis but not creating a wiki on your site. I created a wiki called rawdata.miraheze.org and I assumed I could get to the first page via https://rawdata.miraheze.org, but when I go there I get... nevermind. It appears to take about 5 minutes to create the page after I confirm my email. Sorry! I'm sure this will be helpful to other new users though. Bulrush (talk) 11:54, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

How do I make my wiki read-only by everyone but me?
How do I set up permissions like that? On my initial creation of the wiki, I set it to "public", but it wasn't clear what that means as far as reading and editing. I just want to be able to edit it but let anyone else read it. I'd also like to later add an occasional user to help me with edits.
 * It will be made public soon, please be patient. <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 15:01, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems it was already done. <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 15:03, 21 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I checked the permissions on my wiki https://rawdata.miraheze.org. Looks like anyone can edit, move, or delete stuff. How do I remove those permissions? Bulrush (talk) 11:15, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * open a feature request describing the changes you want. Do you want anonymous editing disabled or do you want to be the only one able to edit? Also, by default, not anyone can delete stuff. (assuming you mean delete pages, revisions, or logs.. anyone can edit a page and redact content but it shows up in the history) Only administrators have the  permission. By default though, anyone can edit pages and all logged in users can move pages. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 13:10, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I figured it out.


 * 1) Log in to the wiki.
 * 2) Go to the main page, at the top click the More button and a menu will drop down. Click Change Protection.
 * 3) Under the Edit box, click Allow Only Administrators.
 * 4) Scroll down and check Protect Pages included in this Page (cascading protection)
 * 5) Click Confirm button.
 * 6) You're done! Bulrush (talk) 22:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Rename wiki
(Farmer log); 14:02. . NDKilla (Talk | contribs | block) created the wiki "catboxwiki" ‎(Gather ideas for a possible webcomic)

/ Accidentally created this with no 'sitename' (I goofed and thought this was only used when using a custom domain..) so now  on my wiki shows nothing. Could this be changed to "CatBox" (to simply match the url). Thanks! -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Search isn't working
"A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.

Function: SearchMySQL::searchInternal Error: 145 Table './metawiki/searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (185.52.1.77)"

2601:903:8000:5E05:FD9C:920A:F233:74A5 20:26, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, we're aware. The other root user is doing some long term importing work is causing continuous crashes on the searchindex tables of all wikis. Unfortunately it can not be fixed until they're done otherwise it would keep reoccurring. Thanks, John (talk) 20:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

How do I put a counter on my wiki pages?
Since the wiki does not seem to support HTML, how do I put a (page view) counter on each page? I just want to start by putting a counter on the main page. Thanks! Bulrush (talk) 12:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * <tt> Special:Statistics </tt> adds an article number with a link to the statistics page at Special:Statistics. Aryamanarora (talk) 12:51, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll give it a try. Bulrush (talk) 17:53, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that an article is counted only if it has a wikilink to another article. Wynter (talk) 19:12, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * @Wynter and @Aryamanarora, I was looking for a page view counter. Sorry for the confusion. Is there a way to do that? Bulrush (talk) 10:20, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Page view counting was removed in MediaWiki 1.25, but a new extension called HitCounters provides this functionality. Wynter (talk) 18:27, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Sysadmins have decided to not add this extension. <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 18:33, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Where did they say this? Wynter (talk) 21:20, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * SPF said this on IRC. I'm not exactly sure why but something to do with hitcounters drastically reducing wiki performance. (Hence I think this feature used to exist in mediawiki core but was removed.. maybe I'm mistaken and just used to use this extension). Sorry for any inconveniences this causes. I will also invite to confirm this. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 23:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That feature was removed from core in 1.25, and view counter will reduce perfomance of wikis with some level of visitors/articles. &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  03:22, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Recreating wiki from Orain backups
Hi, I would like to recreate the wiki I had over at orain. I hear that you only have backups from 3months ago..be it bad luck: Our wiki was created roughly 3 months ago; therefore, I fear not much content will be available on the backup. We had major content additions in late June and Early August.

Whoops! Wiki was izanagi.orain.org

Anyways... If there is sufficient content on the backup, we would like to start it back up (could you check?) If not, we'd rather ditch the project. Thank you for your continued service! (PS: I was directed to you by Addshore) Oberyn (talk)
 * I found the backup of your wiki. If you request a wiki, I'll handle the import. Southparkfan (talk) 12:50, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

It's great that you found it. The wiki has been created: Izanagi Online Wiki. Let's see how much are in those backups.. Thanks! Oberyn (talk)

Thank you for all your helps. Unfortunately, the backup doesn't contain any aspect of the "current" wiki. Kindly let me know if you are able to recover any more-recent backups... Till then... Thanks! Oberyn (talk)
 * Sorry, but that is the most recent backup we have. If we get another one or if Orain recover data we will let you know. <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 11:28, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Table of Contents not on subpages, only main page
The TOC only appears on my main page, not any sub pages. How do I get the TOC to appear on every subpage? Thank you. Bulrush (talk) 14:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The TOC should appear automatically on any page that has at least four headers. If you want to manually force the TOC to appear on any page, use the magic word . Wynter (talk) 16:15, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * It works! Thanks. Bulrush (talk) 19:02, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Where can a new wiki creation be followed?
I requested a new wiki, right.miraheze.org. Where can I follow up,if the wiki gets created? If possible, that wiki should be a backup of orain's right.orain.org. Fiala (talk) 20:53, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Please see about the backup. You should get a message on your talkpage when the wiki gets created. <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 10:24, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * For more info please see your request <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 10:52, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Dormant wikis policy
Hello everyone, as we are yet approaching the date when some wikis will become inactive per the current dormancy policy draft, I propose that we decide if it should be made an official policy. If so we should start the procedures for closing and deleting wikis. --<font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 16:19, 28 September 2015 (UTC)


 * closing inactive wikis and making it an official policy. --TheTVFan (talk) 16:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Too early, I think. &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  03:20, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The stuff I'm writing in my wiki will be useful for years to come, and sometimes I get real busy at work and don't log in for 6 months. Can we extend the dormancy cutoff to 6 months or so? Otherwise I'll just have to find another provider. Bulrush (talk) 11:12, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I also agree that 60 days is too short. I rather propose to run inactivity cleanup every 3 or 6 months or such mechanism. &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  14:22, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Neo-Nazi holocaust deniers trying to host a wiki!
Rightpedia are wanting to host their wiki with you. They formerly were with Orain, you can read about them here:


 * http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5931
 * http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rightpedia
 * http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Rightpedia

When Orain hosted Rightpedia they received multiple legal complaints. Not only is Rightpedia's content anti-Semitic and extremely racist (e.g. calling Jews parasites, blacks ugly, denying the Holocaust etc.), but also posts libel and slander against anti-racism activists. Rightpedia was also linked to perverts and other obscene people (e.g. members there posted about raping Jewish women).

I really hope you don't go through and host Rightpedia.Tinbox (talk) 08:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


 * This is either Michael D Suarez (alias JuniusThaddeus) or Oliver Smith (alias Atlantid). These two went around trolling on Orain, trying to make trouble for it, and vandalizing.  No one else even cares about Rightpedia.  No one else beside a handful of people are aware of it or even read it.  The JIDF doesn't even notice it or care.  The "multiple legal complaints" in reality means Suarez and Smith sending in complaints and no one else.  The "Rightpedia was also linked to perverts and other obscene people (e.g. members there posted about raping Jewish women)."  The "posts libel and slander against anti-racism activists" is untrue, they're just heavily criticized, of course you could call the stuff "Tinbox" linked to libel and slander to if you compare it that way.  Rightpedia is a very alternative view site: correcting mistruths (eg. about Ben Garrison who's libelled a lot), alternative views from the media (e.g. GMO is bad, mass immigration is genocide, Donald Trump is smart but secretly a Zionist) and alternative history (eg. The Allied of WWII were the villains, Jews persecute people and were not victims).  Although I would say you should be cautious of hosting it.  All that bad stuff about Jews you think isn't true until you see them come after you then you realize it's true.  But more importantly, I think the site people already are familiar with it and didn't want to make it.  I think the site should get its own domain and host personally and quit using wikis.  By the way reCAPTCHA was a real pain in the ass to sign up for the site.  First disable all security so the popup works and then have to go through lots of blurry photographs that were made poorly.  I'm not that much arguing anything except that "Tinbox" is a troll and is either Suarez or Smith.  No one else knows or cares about Rightpedia who opposes it--and what's worse there's so much good alternative media stuff that it should all be put into a wiki but not enough people interested and when they are, they have a very narrow focus.  People are unaware of so much, they don't even know basic things like Windows 10 is major spyware.  And the public view of history honors villains as heroes and condemns heroes as villains -- it's how life is -- good people don't win and bad people say what's history and what's true.  Wyatt (talk) 08:54, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm neither approving nor declining the request but the requirements for closing wiki from senior sysadmin is "Contents is illegal in 1)United States and/or 2) Netherlands". I don't know US code nor Netherlands law. &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  10:52, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * "Wyatt" is "A Wyatt Man" a sysop from Right.Origin (Rightpedia) when it was online. Fortunately, posts were archived from Rightpedia, which show Wyatt to be a liar, e.g. legal complaints were received (these had nothing to do with "JuniusThaddeus" or "Atlantid") which resulted in "local steward action" by Orain staff. The libelous posts in question, were writing malicious false content and smears about anti-racist and human rights activists such as Shane Ruttle Martinez, who is this guy. Fiala1's main method of attack is to just slander any anti-racist activists, including lawyers like Martinez, as child molesters, homosexuals (even when they are hetero) or oddly as Jews (when in the case of Martinez his background is Hispanic) when there is absolutely no evidence for these accusations for the individual pages they created to harass and post libel. Tinbox (talk) 12:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The important point is, as I said, Miraheze staffs need a clear evidence that they violate US Code and/or Netherlands law, and (again) I do not know US Code nor Netherlands law, so I cannot determine from archive.is link. Also, receiving legal complaints does not mean it is illegal, it is the area of judge to decide whether it is legal or not. If you have specific articles you find they violates US code/Netherlands law, I will bring this up to other staffs.
 * TL;DR: You need proof that they violate US Code (because our hosting service company is based on US) and/or netherlands law (because our physical server is located in Netherlands). &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  12:32, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Re: Tinbox. This just proves that you were behind that "complaint" too. You impersonate people.  Every complaint everywhere on the internet was by Michael Suarez and Oliver Smith, whichever one you are.  No one even is aware Rightpedia exists at all except the people those two told -- it's actually sad, no one is aware of the site.  Wyatt (talk) 12:34, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Re: Revi, I'm trying to convince Fiala to go with paid hosting. Wyatt (talk) 12:34, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * "You impersonate people. Every complaint everywhere on the internet was by Michael Suarez and Oliver Smith" -- take your meds, please. You're the same loon that denies the Holocaust and claims Wikipedia, even Metapedia is run by Mossad. It wasn't only two individuals complaining about the libel, abuse and sickening anti-Semitism at Rightpedia.Tinbox (talk) 14:13, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not "Tinbox". Tinbox is likely Krom[scape]. Wyatt's claims of "no one even is aware Rightpedia exists at all except the people those two told -- it's actually sad, no one is aware of the site" is ludicrous. Simple searches reveal the truth:
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=%22right.orain.org%22
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=%22right.orain.org%22+site%3Awordpress.com
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=%22right.orain.org%22+site%3Ablogspot.com
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=%22right.orain.org%22+site%3Astormfront.org
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=%22right.orain.org%22+site%3Areddit.com
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=%22right.orain.org%22+site%3Atwitter.com
 * https://www.google.com/search?q=%22right.orain.org%22+site%3A8ch.net
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?target=https%3A%2F%2Fright.orain.org&title=Special%3ALinkSearch
 * --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 18:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

User rights
I do not have permissions to assign Special:UserRights and I think that is the way to add other users to UnDisConnect as administrators?
 * I am checking out your problem. <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 10:09, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Please access Special:UserRights using this link, if it still doesn't work please tell me. --<font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 11:03, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

The user has signed up on the meta instead. That's why I was using that one (for which I have no permissions). User Wwww is only in the global userlist. Is there no way to get her in UnDisConnect list so I can give her administrator privileges for UnDisConnect? To make a user be a UnDisConnect user please make him/her Login in on undisconnectwiki. <font color="#FA80231">Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 15:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)