User talk:MBL

=Ficreation= Hi MBL, could you please reopen Ficreation, you need to give prior notice to the users before an action like that is taken. Freighttrain (talk) 05:39, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * As I noted in the Stewards' noticeboard, any bureaucrat of the wiki can reopen the wiki. If they don't, the community as a whole can hold a vote and then have a Steward reopen the wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:45, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * This happened only a couple of hours ago though, and MBL altered the notice to say that it was closed for good this time, also none of the pages are even loading now, does that mean they are deleted? I'm just a user there so I don't know about any of that, but I've messaged one of the new admins Milcery elsewhere though he doesn't usually reply quickly, anyway no users there want Ficreation closed, activity was just starting to pick up again but the new admins were infighting and MBL who must have been watching decided to use it as an excuse to close Ficreation because of some inane semi-personal feud with Geoshea the creator of Ficreation.
 * Anyway it's really annoying because I regularly update and maintain my sci-fi blog there, and because of some silly feud I'd rather not have to first find another suitable miraheze wiki to post it, and then reupload hundreds of blog images, so is there anything you can do about this in the meantime? Freighttrain (talk) 06:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * What MBL did was simply put the wiki in private mode, all the pages are still there. As I said, any of the bureaucrats can reopen the wiki. Per CentralAuth, Milcery has no rights on the wiki and has been banned. As none of the Stewards are members of the wiki, they can't really decide if it's their place to reopen the wiki or not. If no one reopens the wiki but you know that the community is against closure, rally them and hold a vote to reopen the wiki. After a week passes, Stewards will assess the vote and reopen the wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: If this action was done by a rogue bureaucrat, the local bureaucrats could petition Stewards to revoke their rights on the wiki.


 * Well Milcery was a bureauocrat on Ficreation until a couple of hours ago, there were about four other new admin who have been active over the past few days or so, and MBL was not one of them, I didn't even know that MBL had admin rights there, so I would say that he is a rogue bureacrat, and who knows if the other admins/bureacrats still have their rights there, I just don't know what has happened.


 * Anyway I don't really know any of the other admin or users on Ficreation other than Milcery and Geoshea, and even if I was going to try and 'rally' them I don't even think I recall their usernames and I can't look them up there because MBL set it to private, so that is not an option at the moment, but I definitely know that none of the active admin wanted it closed, otherwise they wouldn't have been squabbling for control, and none of the other users there would want it closed either.


 * This is very inconvenient as there was no prior notice, and we are not able to contact anyone locally there or even view the pages, so we require Miraheze sysops to step in and sort that out for us, whether that means finding a way of getting in contact with MBL, or manually reopening Ficreation and restoring our user rights. Freighttrain (talk) 06:42, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I've forwarded all your concerns to the Stewards. Please standby. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:49, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok thank you. Freighttrain (talk) 06:54, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the late reply and sudden change on what happened. Many of the admins wanted it to be immediately closed down to prevent yet another power struggle within the wiki due to how much drama was going on there. In Geoshea's last words to me before he left the internet, he said he wanted me to take down Ficreation as he felt it was a mistake and will only harm others to come and he didn't want that. How long do you want me to reopen the wiki? MBL (talk) 15:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)