User talk:DarkMatterMan4500

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Request to be demoted on Upsetting Toys Wiki.
The reason I am making this request is because it is a wiki that I don't really contribute to. While my promotion was clearly to help combat -abigblueworld-, she hasn't tried to attack that wiki recently. Hell, nobody has done anything there in a while. Therefore I don't want to be a sysop there anymore. Marxo Grouch (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello? Apologies for my impatience, but it's been a week since I made this request. Have you seen it yet? Marxo Grouch (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've seen it. In fact, I get emails every time. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have ✅ your request. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:54, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Marxo Grouch (talk) 04:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Helping and not helping
Hi DarkMatterMan4500,

Firstly, I wanted to reach out to you to say for your continued volunteer CVT assistance, and, principally, to your reports in  on IRC. Of particular note, your suspected illegitimate sockpuppetry reports have gotten much better, usually providing both useful context and usually relevant diffs. So, again, for this, and for your continued assistance to the CVT and Trust and Safety teams.

That being said, I have to just sit and shake my head with messages like these, as I'm not sure what your thought process was in this. It feels a bit like this, which isn't helpful. Please take this under due consideration and seek to avoid continuing with such unhelpful comments.

Many thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 03:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * DMM is blocked on many wikis probably for this reason. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 04:08, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, that's a leap you should not make. Please be remember to assume good faith with all users, and to avoid things like this, too. :) Dmehus (talk) 04:10, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Believe me, that wasn't my goal. I know he contributes a lot for the project to improve, no wonder he is a wiki creator. I just find it weird that it's blocked on many wikis. And seeing some of them, he made edits of this type. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 04:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, . I believe that you likely meant well, but it just didn't come across correctly, perhaps because of the language barrier. Anyway, that's good. I appreciate your understanding and contrition. Dmehus (talk) 04:22, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oops. Sorry about that. And speaking of which, I've removed the comment just several hours after you posted this message, which was about a few minutes ago. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500, thank you. That's great. Again, thank you for your constructive counter-vandalism work that you do across wikis. This was meant to be helpful guidance, so that you can avoid negatively offsetting that constructive work in the future. We can chat more in private on this, if you like. :) Dmehus (talk) 16:09, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Question
Why did you undo my edits on mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Channel Awesome and mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Toy Channels on mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Wretched YouTube Videos Wiki? I didn't blank any content on those pages, I don't think. FatBurn0000 (talk) 09:04, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Correction, actually, I did initially blank content on the Toy Channels page, but I restored it later. The part you reverted was the deletion tag and other changes I made. FatBurn0000 (talk) 09:10, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's because your edits came off as disruptive vandalism, and I had to undo those. Please don't blank pages like that again. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * But I didn't blank any content on the Channel Awesome page, and while I did initially blank content on the Toy Channels page, I restored it later, but you also reverted my other edit which wasn't blanking. FatBurn0000 (talk) 14:22, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And also, it wasn't vandalism, because the edits were in good faith. FatBurn0000 (talk) 14:24, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Then again, the blanking was unnecessary. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:35, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Still, why did you undo the edits that weren't blanking any content? FatBurn0000 (talk) 23:06, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, like I said, some of your edits were unnecessary, thus the reason why I reverted them. Please avoid page-blanking in the future. Thank you. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:53, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * But how were the edits "unnecessary"? FatBurn0000 (talk) 01:40, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Request #22310
Hello DMM! I saw that you declined this user's request here, because "he has requested too many wikis". While I agree with that, it currently he has only one wiki. This user is lost and doesn't know which wiki to edit, so I recommend you accept one of them (this recent one that shows the scope) to see their latest excuse. Thanks. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 22:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There was another reason behind it, but I'm not going to reveal that to you, as that is between me, and a few other admin groups. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:15, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course I know, he also told me. Even so, they are external problems, in my opinion, this shouldn't make a user not have a wiki of their own, even if he doesn't have any confidence. Also this is warning is benefit because maybe it will stop requesting wikis. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 22:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Request #22331
I am not saying you should decline that wiki request or delete that wiki now, but the wiki has the same topic as my wiki, making it a duplicate.  Anpang 📨 04:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There is nothing stating in the content policy that wikis with the same subject are prohibited (I think), and therefore he had no choice but to accept the request that has the clear scope. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 04:58, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it does appear to be a duplicate and thus in violation of the "A wiki must not create problems which make it difficult for other wikis" clause of the Content Policy. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:14, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A wiki that creates problems for another wiki has another meaning, that is: citing the wiki creating attacks/defaming. This does not include in the same topic. The requester perhaps, let alone DMM didn't know that this wiki of Anpang existed and requested the wiki of their interest, so the goal really isn't to create a concurrency here, this js accidental, and it doesn't apply here. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 05:23, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That specific Content Policy provision covers duplicate wikis and prohibits them and forks that are very similar in content, not just defamatory attacks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think there should be a clarification of that in an updated content policy.
 * Also there's a conversation on discord about this too  Anpang 📨 05:35, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Anpang, what wiki is your wiki? I don't know if anyone's asked that here. In any case, to clarify, Content Policy doesn't prohibit two wikis from sharing the same topic or topics. That provision covers fork wikis; wikis which are made up of a substantial majority of copied content from an existing Miraheze wiki, with little or no changes to the content. A wiki creator should, if they know that we have a similar wiki covering the same topic, decline the wiki request as needing clarification in terms of the wiki's scope, in accordance with Content Policy. Additionally, as a recommended best practice, the wiki creator should also first invite users to continue contributing and requesting rights on that wiki. As well, as another recommended best practice, wiki creators should, if they don't know if we have a similar wiki, do a bit of very basic research to see whether we do. In any case and in this case, I suspect DarkMatterMan4500 did not know we had a similar wiki sharing this topic, so I thought I'd share these tips with him for the future. Dmehus (talk) 06:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * mh:space:Astronomy Wiki  Anpang 📨 07:43, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, you'd be right about that. I either forgot that wiki was specifying about or didn't even know his wiki came into existence WAY before I approved that specified wiki request. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Special:Diff/226736
What was the reason for this change that left the pages all messed up? I did not understand. Please explain, thank you. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 21:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I wasn't trying to mess up the page. Then again, I think it's best you let another admin talk to me. Admins like, , and/or even or other admins should be the ones telling me to be careful. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:08, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not claiming that you were trying to mess up the page, I'd rather believe that maybe this was accidental, and, any user is free to volunteer and warn about changes that don't help, that's not just the admin's job, even you've done that. related to modules. The point is just to let you know, keep that in mind, thanks! --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 21:15, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Will.maden
Could you please block this user from mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Wretched YouTube Videos Wiki? They keep removing content without explanation. I even messaged them about it and yet they didn't reply, instead they just kept removing content without explanation. FatBurn0000 (talk) 09:18, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You know, you don't have to message me here on Meta. But I'll look at his edits later. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, I do because I can't access your talk page on there for some reason. FatBurn0000 (talk) 06:36, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at his edits as soon as I can. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:11, 16 January 2022 (UTC)