Community noticeboard/Archive 9

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Interwiki request for guidewiki
Wiki: guide (interwiki)

Cheers! dross (t • c • g) 02:54, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅-- 04:13, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

I have a problem
Can someone look at this? I can not get any further.
 * looks like you want to set up auto promote, You can do so from Manage Wiki permissions. Bonnedav (talk) 21:35, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Contacting Miraheze
Hi,

I’d like to inform you that effective immediately Miraheze has changed the way you get in touch. Please read below to find the new emails for some teams. The old emails will redirect to the new details until further notice.

You can still contact the board via board@undefinedmiraheze.org. The use of “Miraheze Staff” has been removed due to the lack of formal staff at Miraheze and little need for a shared mailbox.

Thanks,
 * ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - 23:10, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Until further notice? I'd like to echo "forever" &mdash; Don't delete redirects! Cool URI doesn't change. &mdash; revi  12:13, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Only reason I say that is, I have no clue what will happen in 50 years. There’s no intention there to remove but things could happen between now an 2060. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:17, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Adding a interwiki link to the CWCki for my wiki
Greetings, I've wanted to add a Interlink to the CWCki (https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Main_Page) to my wiki, MessengerGeekia (messengergeek.miraheze.org).

It'll likely be only used once, until something major happens to me (as this is for the article all about me) -DreamIsland (talk) 19:51, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * what should be the prefix to use (example: voy:, commons:)? Hispano76 (talk) 15:17, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Fundraising
Hi, in case you haven't seen the sitenotice please have a look at our campaign and help us stay online! Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 07:19, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

New Miraheze Meeting
Please be aware of

Thanks,
 * ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - 15:22, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

New Miraheze Meeting
Please be aware of

Thanks,
 * ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - 15:22, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Name space number
What is the name of the special page where you can see the list of namespace numbers on the local wiki?--辞書城主 (talk) 13:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Is it Special:AllPages? Hispano76 (talk) 18:10, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Alternately you could try editing a page in a namespace and adding the text  to the page and hitting preview. The number it generates will be the namespace number. Otherwise, if you want to access a full list of namespaces, you can use the API with a query like the one at https://meta.miraheze.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces . --  Void  Whispers 18:14, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * This was because the newsletter needed a newsletter namespace number or a local-only namespace number to specify the newsletter in the abuse filter. They have already been resolved. Thank you very much.--辞書城主 (talk) 00:34, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Sitenotice, but for Mobile
FAQ works only for desktop, not for Mobile.

On Mobile the only notice one sees is the Miraheze donations notice.

OK I filed https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T5057

Jidanni (talk) 16:12, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Translation administrator question
Extension:Translate works fine. I can mark pages for translation but list of rights does not show that I am a Translation administrator. Plus how can I grant a user right to be a Translation administrator if I do not see that in membership groups ?

My User Rights:

Member of: Automoderated users, Autopatrollers, Autochecked users, Bureaucrats, Chat moderators, Confirmed users, Editors, Forum administrators, Interface administrators, Moderators, Rollbackers, Administrators

Helper (talk) 16:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Electron PDF extension
Hi, since https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/2852 we've removed the duplicate option of installing Electron. The collection extension is required for the electron extension to work, so enabling just Collection will install electron alongside. If your wiki used only Electron and not Collection, please enable Collection instead as the option to install Electron independently has been removed. Paladox (talk) 19:43, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

My account was being renamed but it stopped getting upgraded 3/4 of the way
I renamed myself from AnimalLovingGuy to ScrewSociety, but since it updated my name on each wiki in alphabetical order by the wiki's name, it stopped at Reception Flame Wars Wiki because the wiki closed down. As a result I lost access to my account a few days ago, and I really want to get it back. Can you please help me?
 * I apologize for this issue, I have fixed it and you should now have access to the account. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:26, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

How can I become an autoconfirmed user?
(this was copied and pasted) I made an account on Miraheze a year ago. On Atrocious Youtubers Wiki, I am still not an autoconfirmed user and it pisses me off. It says I need 10 edits yet I'm not allowed to edit anything on that wiki. Can someone please help me?

Edit: I contacted an admin. Hopefully I'm granted the abilities to edit. User:SaltylakeXD


 * Autoconfirmed status is up to each wiki to decide, not anything global. You should contact the administrators or bureaucrats there to request to edit. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 08:23, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

How do I change the style of mobile Infoboxes to that of Wikipedia?
Hey there, so I’m trying to format my infoboxes on the mobile site of my wiki to look exactly like Wikipedia’s mobile infoboxes. Does anyone know how that is possible? Let me know please, thank you! RuffianLewis (talk) 14:46, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello and welcome! Sec. 4.4 of our FAQ may be helpful.   22:00 16-Jan-2020

I did try that, however it looks different. Is it theme-related possibly? What am I missing? Could I maybe have the mobile theme on my wiki changed? Also, I can provide the link to Infobox my wiki as well as a link to the Wikipedia infobox - the difference is noticeable. RuffianLewis (talk) 07:39, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

How to transclude one wiki in another?
I have a Miraheze wiki about synth DIY but I want it to include something about electronic theory. That subject is of wider interest than to just synth DIY. So if I have another Miraheze wiki solely about elementary electronic theory, how can I get the pages of that wiki to be included in the synth DIY and/or other wikis, (except perhaps for Main Page)? --Rob Kam (talk) 11:01, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You can have the wiki which you want to include on other wikis added to the interwiki list with the interwiki transclusion option enabled. This will require that the setting Enable scary transclusion (under Special:ManageWiki/settings) is enabled, and that the new interwiki prefix has transclusion enabled. -- Void  Whispers 17:59, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * How to specify in the source wiki which section(s) of the transcluded page display and which are excluded in the wiki(s) linking to it? --Rob Kam (talk) 09:53, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I believe it should work the same way as standard controls, such as the tags  and  . --  Void  Whispers 17:36, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this seems to work. Next problem is how to be able to insert some other text into a transcluded page, if it's even possible? --Rob Kam (talk) 22:58, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Community Directors
Hello,

I have now closed Community Directors/Election Commission/2019 Election/Vote with a no consensus for any candidate as not enough people voted. Despite 20 users casting votes, they did not all vote for a candidate so more users would have been needed for any single candidate to pass. I'd like to open a thread to determine what the community would like to do next.

Please consider the below options. This is not a formal RfC but will precede one. Dependant on responses, I will book a Miraheze Meetings slot on 21st January to discuss this as well.


 * Should the community lower or remove the minimum number of voters requirement?
 * Is the community in a position to elect Directors at this time?
 * Is an election commission needed?
 * Should voting limits be changed for Directors as well?
 * What about other advanced roles?

Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:38, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I would definitely disagree with removing a minimum number for both directors and commissioners, as we must guarantee that many members of the community agree with the proposals. The problem is rather users being informed and understanding the purpose of the role I'd say. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:00, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that lowering the numbers would not be ideal. I think we need to work to bring more of the community to meta and possibly look at delaying the Community Directors elections for a period of time. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  18:20, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I have to argue that, at least for the first year, the Miraheze community is not in a condition to vote for directors. As it appears, a lot of this information has just been sprung on several people, who do not fully understand what it means for Miraheze to be owned by an independently acting corporation. For the sake of smooth establishment of Miraheze Ltd. and to give time for the community to adjust to these changes, I would support holding off on any sort of election outside of the typical Miraheze everyday functions (e.g. stewards, dev, RfXs, and the like). dross  (t • c • g) 01:49, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I second this. The announcements were circulated, but I doubt most users—especially those new to Miraheze and already busy trying to set up their new wikis—would have the time nor the expertise needed to make informed decisions to vote. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 22:02, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Motion to delay elections, 1 year
“The Miraheze Community thank the Board of Miraheze Limited for their invitation to nominate users for 3 seats on the Miraheze Board. Following an attempt to partake in this, The Community has opted to decline the invitation for at least 12 months.”
 * In accordance with the Community Directors policy, the standard procedure for voting and definitions applies to this.
 * This vote began: 21:39, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) as proposed.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:39, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  per Dross. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk  ·  Contributions ) 22:02, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  ~  Chip 🐺 00:30, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  I think this is my first contribution to any kind of global community discussion/vote. I hope to keep contributing in that aspect from now on! --Ondo (talk) 13:34, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Oppose
From my point of view we should announce the winners and be done with this. We don't have to go a whole year without new Community Directors. I don't think it counts that the minimum votes didn't get in before the deadline, three of them still won because they got over 60% support in their favor. WickyHoney (talk) 19:34, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That's not what we voted into policy. The rules for the elections set a minimum number of voters. That was not met. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:36, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * For one thing it wasn't public enough, and I am sure that the minimum votes would have gone in if it was. I don't want to waste an opportunity such as this just because enough people didn't vote. I wanted to vote, but I wasn't eligible, so there was also that. Just because someone's account is new doesn't mean they can't understand who they should vote for, but I understand why that rule is there; to prevent inexperienced users from doing something hasty, and to prevent sockpuppets from voting. However, it still is kind of unfair that someone's account was to be old enough to vote when the person typing is experienced enough. I still stand that three promotions should be made sooner that later, because from my point of view three won and one lost. The deadline was also too short. WickyHoney (talk) 19:48, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It was open for the maximum period allowed and advertised across IRC, Discord and wikis via various methods. If you want to adjust policy, open an RfC to change it and ask that the rules are changed in that then open a vote to restart elections. 3 did NOT win under policy unfortunately. These were also only commissioners for the election and I am not aware of anyone who is willing to stand for Director. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:52, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I never said I wanted to change the rules, I was just expressing my opinion. I didn't know it was advertised like that, so I apologize for thinking it wasn't. I still think that Dross lost because they got abstained the most, and that everyone else won because they got the higher support. One problem may be that people on here are just not into politics. I was though, and I guess I just don't like that a satisfying result did not come out of the election. What exactly do you mean by delaying the election anyway? That still confuses me. I am sorry if I sounded rude earlier. WickyHoney (talk) 20:09, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I concur with Rhinos. Rule of Law says we agree on the card game before we look at our own cards!  Wicky, it may seem fine to you to just invent an outcome.  Might seem fine to me too if I were a candidate and didn't get a majority but did pretty well compared to the others.  Point is, if we don't hold to the announced rules, things could get subjective and contentious.  Your point is valid that, despite good announcement and ample time, response was anemic.  (I for one am "just not into politics.")  The proper response is to amend the rules to better match Miraheze reality, and conduct another vote, perhaps without waiting 1 year.   02:26 25-Jan-2020
 * We’ll simply have the election close to a year after this vote closes rather than restarting the process until we get somewhere (probably with an RfC) or cancelling it altogether. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  04:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Voter Eligibilty Checks

 * 1) RhinosF1 - Checked by

NewUserMessage Signature
I recently added the NewUserMessage extension to my wiki. Unfortunately, it always includes a signature below the template, like so:

-- New user message (talk) 00:00, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

I think it looks unappealing and unnecessary. I've tried leaving MediaWiki:Newusermessage-signatures blank, but the signature appears anyway. How do I get rid of it? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 23:00, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Does anyone have any suggestions? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 05:13, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I've done my best to fix the issue, and this is the final result. Although it looks fine, I have to tell you that you still need to close the div tag manually, and that you cannot remove the timestamp no matter what (meaning adding div tag in your signature will result in timestamp written out of the box).-- 07:50, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for all your help! I really appreciate it.
 * But now I have a different problem. When I try to log in to my wiki, I get an error saying "The supplied credentials could not be authenticated". When I try "Forgot your password?", it says "The password reset was not handled. Maybe no provider was configured?". Oddly, I can log in here, but I keep getting logged out every few minutes. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 06:06, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I guess I need to fix that problem. Say, I'll revert MediaWiki:Newusermessage-editor, and you can create an account that is only used for the purpose. Then, set its signature to whatever you want, and add its name to the page. That should fix the issue.-- 09:06, 24 January 2020 (UTC)