Requests for Comment/Changing the Powered by Miraheze footer button

Last night the Powered by Miraheze footer button was changed by SRE without prior community consultation. SRE needs to consult the community before making global visual changes like this. This RFC is primarily to ratify that change, but other versions can also be proposed. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 14:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Option 1
The proposed footer button (was deployed for about half a day).

Support

 * 1)  I don't suppose this footer button would be better suited, but meh, that's just my opinion. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:31, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  I find this current footer button a tad bit ugly, and I wish there was a discussion prior to this change. -- Cheers, Bongo Cat ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  This looks awful.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  18:01, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) It's ugly. The letters without margin YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 17:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 4)  Really, really ugly.--アンジェロ先輩 (talk) 18:55, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 5)  Poor margin.  21:21, 8 November 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * 6)  imo, whoever designed this should get globally locked. :P  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 23:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 7)  more padding/margin  Anpang   Talk  01:34, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 8) . Magogre (talk) 02:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Comments

 * I am fine with this one except I'd rather expect the Miraheze logo to visually align with the MediaWiki logo's thin font... That's way too thick as it is. &mdash; revi  16:49, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I largely concur with this; I like the idea and the example as a draft, the trick was getting it to pass by more eyes to have a refined form as seen in proposal 3. --Raidarr (talk) 01:18, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Option 2
The existing footer button (now restored).

Support

 * 1) YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 21:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  I like other options better than current.  22:29, 8 November 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * 2)  Current suggestion (proposal 3) fits better in the footer alongside the mediawiki button. This one in comparison is not a particularly great fit. At most I would use this as an interim until a polished form of Proposal 1 showed up, and it's appeared. There's no reason to continue with this one. --Raidarr (talk) 01:20, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * But this is perfect button. Respects margin and has no cut. The one above (option 3) the letters are close to Honeycomb YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 01:44, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Option 3
A version with the proper margins and the current font used by Miraheze. It's also a vector image instead of a raster. &mdash;Lakelimbo (talk)&emsp; 19:03, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Better than the originally proposed one.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:09, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) Exactly the cleanup I was hoping for. --Raidarr (talk) 20:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 3)  This looks cleaner.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 4)  looks nice; clean margin; better then current (or other options), in my personal opinion.  21:23, 8 November 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * 5) I support the "Hosted by Miraheze" wording. K599 (talk) 21:33, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 6) I have a for this; I was about to personally propose this change tbh, But it seems  was a bit faster ;) heh. The Miraheze that's the only text there makes almost no sense, because it doesn't pass the message appropriately, Hosted by Miraheze sends the message, that's supposed to be passed across viewers, appropriately. Ugochimobi (talk) 22:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 7)  Anpang   Talk  01:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 8) looks great with the text centered. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 01:58, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 9) – LGTM. Magogre (talk)  02:00, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) The sides are cut!!! YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 21:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I suspect this is due to ImageMagick. The actual image (if you have clicked on it) does not have problems with the borders. &mdash;Lakelimbo (talk)&emsp; 21:50, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with the sides. --Raidarr (talk) 01:21, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Are you blind? ha YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 01:40, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Situationally. --Raidarr (talk) 11:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you mean the left border doesn't exist? Anpang   Talk  01:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes! YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 01:55, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It blends in with the background and the MediaWiki icon next to the miraheze icon to me Anpang   Talk  01:59, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Option 4
The same as the previous one but without the "Hosted by". It's also a vector image instead of a raster. &mdash;Lakelimbo (talk)&emsp; 19:03, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Comments

 * 1) Also ugly. What Miraheze would have was to change your logo, this honeycomb makes things ugly and it's weird. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 19:07, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) To change the logo (the honeycomb) would need a major community consensus, and I doubt most people would like, because the hexagons are already kind of a aesthetic signature of Miraheze, despite being quite simple.  &mdash;Lakelimbo (talk)&emsp; 19:14, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Option 5
The same as the previous one but the font is blue. It's also a vector image instead of a raster. &mdash;Lakelimbo (talk)&emsp; 19:03, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1)  To reiterate, this wouldn't be a bad idea, even if I have to choose between this logo, and the other choice from above. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:10, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Option 6
Images must be SVG <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 21:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Comments
The images are in vector and the probable answers are already SVG. I find this suggestion as well as the nature of your oppositions above to be rather strange. --Raidarr (talk) 01:23, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean 'Strange'? Could you tell me how? <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 01:57, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not raidarr but I think I can explain, the options you opposed WERE svg. So now you're opposing svg there but supporting svg here. Anpang   Talk

General comments
I know this is about the logo specifically &mdash; and IMO I like both &mdash; but would be possible to add .5em of margin to the left of the icon? It always bothered me how the Powered by MW and Hosted by MH icons do not have any X-gap. &mdash;Lakelimbo (talk)&emsp; 16:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This can be done easily be changing “poweredby” in this line to something like “hostedby”. That string defines the button group and MediaWiki only puts space between groups and not individual buttons. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 01:56, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

How about just make the miraheze footer button be able to be changed by the wiki owners? And make the most voted one in this RfC the default one. Anpang  Talk  01:37, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

The proposed differences in the deployed, and revised but as yet to be deployed, logos are quite minor. I can hardly see a difference between two of them. That being said, I wonder if SRE could create a hook or ManageWiki variable that would allow users to define one of two or three possible Miraheze logos? Logos would be housed on Miraheze Commons, of course, but just some fodder for discussion. Dmehus (talk) 07:05, 9 November 2021 (UTC)