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Added ability to block emails and echo notifications from certain users
Hi. I just wanted to let people know that recently, the ability to block emails and block Echo notifications from users of your choosing has been enabled in Miraheze (see T10684).

This is all done through your preferences page. To apply these settings globally (on all wikis), use Special:GlobalPreferences.

To block emails: Go to the "User profile" tab, and add usernames to the "Prohibit these users from emailing me" option, at the "Email options" tab.

To block notifications: Go to the "Notifications" tab and scroll down to the "Muted users" section. Then add usernames to the "Do not display notifications from these users" option. OrangeStar (talk) 16:26, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Images and files not loading correctly
I took a week-long break from editing my wiki, and when I logged back in to start editing again none of the files and images were loading correctly. The same thing is happening in different browsers and on different devices. I tried to fix it myself but I have no idea what to do. Any help with fixing this will be appreciated and thanks for any info in advance. Effect-kun (talk) 15:54, 11 April 2023 (UTC)


 * We are aware. See Tech:SRE noticeboard for more info. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you everyone for the low-down on the image load issue. I cam here to see what was up since it was occurring on my wikis as well. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 23:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've seen the same thing, and I was shocked. There could be some kind of image outage. Spencers (Hello) 18:00, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Swift (Miraheze's file system) is currently down due to a disk failure. SRE is working on bringing it back up. Tali64³ (talk) 18:01, 11 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok, thank you for that information, as I thought it was just a problem on my wiki. Effect-kun (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Image displaying and uploading issues???
Hey, it's been a while. Is anybody having any problems with images lately?? because I have been on every single Miraheze wiki, and it's unable to display any images, and whenever I try to upload one, I get:

"Could not create directory "mwstore://miraheze-swift/local-public/c/c0"."

Seriously, what's going on??? ManiacACS (talk) 08:13, 12 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Not an administrator here, but it's a known issue right now with Cloud11 and Swift. You can see the relevant section on the SRE noticeboard for more information. Hope this helps any. Hypercane  (  talk ) 08:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * P.S. I moved this topic from the Administrators' noticeboard to here since this seems to be a better place for it. Hypercane  (  talk ) 08:31, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh right. This has to be a very unfortunate development, seeing as I thought it was something wrong with Altcyclopedia or something. ManiacACS (talk) 08:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Again, same issue as before per this forum. This is a website-wide issue that doesn't even involve the admins, but the developers. They could fix the problem if they're really careful not to make any worse issues. Spencers (Hello) 10:31, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. This is sitewide, since when I tried to upload files on the AudioVisual Identity Database, it didn't go through. No images load, likely because they turned off Swift to do repairs. Prior to this there was a faulty SSD. I think they are replacing the SSD and transferring the images so they don't get erased. jrStudios (talk) 12:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The only server affected is the swiftac* server which directs traffic. Image files are fine.

Is it possible to have sidebars collapsed by default on mobile only in Vector 2022?
When the sidebar is uncollapsed on mobile, it opens at the top of the small screen and can fill up almost the entire screen, not letting visitors even notice the actual content. I like having the sidebar uncollapsed and viewable on desktop where there is more real estate, but it would be nice to have it collapsed by default on mobile.

I've tried researching this issue for several hours, but have hit some dead ends. Perhaps I am searching for it wrong, but I can't seem to find it. The best info I have found are this site and this one, but neither really help me as a self-taught mediawiki user.

If it's not possible to collapse by default on mobile only, is it possible to collapse by default on both? I'd prefer only mobile, but both would do the trick too.

Thank you! ParentRatings (talk) 17:03, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Create an abuse filter to block a specific username string
Hello, I am trying to create and abuse filter to block usernames containing "THE REAL" or "emium". I also want this filter to only apply to non-bureaucrat users. I have came up with this:

(action == "createaccount") & !("bureaucrat" in user_groups) & (user_name contains "emium")

But it doesn't seem to work no matter what I do. Can someone help? Globe (talk) 13:26, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


 * You're using the wrong variable;  is the correct variable for checking user names during account creation. Tali64³ (talk) 20:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Change wiki, so that users can't edit articles, but can use talk pages
Make the wiki that you can't edit articles, but you can use talk pages. Patito cafe  00:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You could protect all of the articles to Administrator only editing, and just not protect the talk pages. Globe (talk) 10:39, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * A somewhat more elegant alternative: Change all content namespaces to require 'editprotected' access through Special:ManageWiki/namespaces on your wiki. You don't need to change the interface namespace. Leave talk namespaces as is. The result is automatic protection of all articles (and stuff that affects them ie templates or other spaces like help) but people can talk as they wish. --Raidarr (talk) 23:08, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Patito  cafe  21:14, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

MediaWikiChat and WikiForum doesn't work on zhtranswiki
Special:Chat shows no chat log, and Special:WikiForum does not exist. 沈澄心 (talk) 09:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Your wiki is private and we can't see anything, basically. But as general advice - are you sure the corresponding extensions are enabled? If your wiki was down during November server incident, it might worth to try disabling and enabling them again. KatozzKita (talk) 09:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I tried but it doesn't work. 沈澄心 (talk) 10:13, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * These extensions are now disabled on zhtranswiki. 沈澄心 (talk) 11:29, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * WikiForum was disabled for security as I recall. MediaWikiChat should still work though, please report if the issue is persisting. --Raidarr (talk) 09:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Banned from uploading files??
Noticed that images are back on the Miraheze network, but for some reason, I'm unable to upload and overwrite images! All it says is:

"You do not have permission to upload this file, for the following reason:

The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Administrators, Users."

But I am one, and I founded that Altcyclopedia Wiki? Is it something I've done, or something else entirely?? ManiacACS (talk) 06:31, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Miraheze volunteers have recovered the images, but some extra works are still needed to enable uploading again. You just need to wait for another while. -- JerryHan3 ( T · C · P ) 07:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Have you refresh your browser? I have full services restored including  in the sidebar which was missing yesterday - PercyUK (talk) 09:17, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Templates cause wikitext to be damaged
After using my template the remaining text is in a  tag. How can I fix this? Example: https://tutorials.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Nominations/Speedy_deletion  11:01, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


 * the template had a trailing space that I've removed. Should be good now! --Raidarr (talk) 09:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅, thank you!  07:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Notification of new user account
I recently needed to take my Wiki private, but I want to know if there is a way I can be notified when someone seeks to create a new account on my wiki, so I can review and/or the account and grant them membership to the private wiki. Does this functionality exist? If so how do I go about enabling it and/or using it? – Mitchell Gore (talk) 00:39, 17 April 2023 (UTC) Mitchell Gore (talk) 00:39, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Local roles
I'm having trouble assigning myself roles On my own Wiki Look at your ceiling 01:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC) Look at your ceiling 01:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You'll have to elaborate, you seem to have given yourself more than enough roles (some overlapping each other completely) here. Was there something other than this you wanted to do specifically? --Raidarr (talk) 08:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah I created a role and tried to assign it to myself Look at your ceiling 15:13, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Cross-posting my answer from steward's noticeboard, It sounds like you need to set up who can grant the custom roles. Tp give those rights to a role you already have, navigate the Special:ManageWiki/permissions page for your wiki and select the role that should be able to grant your custom roles. Switch to the 'Group Assignments' tab, and ensure that the 'can add to others' box is checked for each of the custom roles you want to be able to grant. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 20:05, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I tried it and it doesn't work Look at your ceiling 20:34, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Checking out your wiki, it looks like what you did was give the Local_Steward group the ability to add and remove the Bureaucrat role, not the other way around. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 00:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

New 2FA method available: WebAuthn
Just letting everyone know that Extension:WebAuthn has been added to all wikis as an alternative 2FA method (T10700). Instead of codes on an authenticator app, this method relies on hardware-based authenticators, for example USB security keys. I'd also like to note that unlike other websites such as GitHub you can only have either TOTP or WebAuthn enabled, you can't have both at the same time. You can change your 2FA method at Special:Preferences. OrangeStar (talk) 16:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Sporadic image load issues
The other day it seams that the server/image issue were resolved, and for a brief moment, all the images were loading once again (as well as my custom web fonts I have upload to my wiki loading properly). But now I am having some limited image load issues (for instance my site logo is now missing entirely (not even a broken image link icon) and my custom fonts are back to not loading. Is this still a result fo the server/image issue not being full resolved? Or is this some other new issue? – Mitchell Gore (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC) Mitchell Gore (talk) 23:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Managed to fix the issue. It had to do with my changing the wiki to a private wiki the other day, which broke all the static url paths that previously worked fine for my uploaded custom web font files and the site logo. After changing the wiki to a private one, apparently those URL paths were no longer valid, so I had to go to each of the webfont and site logo file pages, and copy the new URL path for the file assets and then paste them into the css page (for the web fonts) and the Special/ManageWiki/Settings page for the site logo. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 01:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Making Extension:NewSignupPage global
Would there be any objections to making mw:Extension:NewSignupPage a global extension (i.e. hardcoded in to the software, not opt-outable in ManageWiki). This extension requires users to check the box saying that they agree to the TOU and Privacy Policy before creating a new account. Will anyone actually read all of that? Probably not. But, if we require users to acknowledge both policies, and then they breach them, it would completely absolve the stewards/sysadmins of any wrongdoing or even allegation of wrongdoing when issuing blocks or bans for such breaches ("You explicitly agreed to follow these policies when you created your account. If you didn't actually read them it's your own fault".) The extension does come with a bypass right, which can allow users to get around the checkbox requirement, IMO this right should be assigned to nobody (and honestly should be blacklisted) so that everyone must acknowledge the TOU before signing up.

If there is consensus for this, I could submit the patch myself once I get back into my GitHub account (I'm currently locked out of it because I changed email providers). – AmandaCath  ( talk ) 15:41, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * This seems reasonable to me. A very minor change in practice, but not harmful and I see the benefit as long as there aren't technical drawbacks I'm missing. --Raidarr (talk) 01:08, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Seeing how there was no opposition in several days, I've created the code patch today, but I'm not marking it as "ready" just yet in case there are other comments. – AmandaCath  ( talk ) 19:16, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Upload a .xlsx .docx .txt .htm .html ecc... file
I would like to know if is possible and how to upload file different fron the allowed file extensions.

I dont wont publish any video or superheavy files, just upload .xlsx .docx .txt .htm .html ecc... files

Many thanks Gianalberto.chini (talk) 12:07, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * You can add additional extensions as permitted for upload on a wiki by going to Additional Settings >> Media, and updating the section titled 'file extensions'. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 17:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

How to enable side preview?
I would like to enable the small preview button on the top right of WikiEditor on my wiki:



How can I do this? 09:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Found it, it was hidden but I accessed the WikiEditor extension settings. Open Special:ManageWiki/settings and check the Editing tab. Turned on the Realtime Preview beta feature.  15:14, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

How do i use Quiz extension?
I do not know how to use the Quiz extension on Miraheze. I need it for my wiki since my wiki heavily depends on quizzes, but i have no clue how to use them. Can someone give me an explanation on how to add questions, mark answers as correct or incorrect, and any other features. Zhongwen (talk) 18:41, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * You must use the manage extensions tab on your wiki to install the social profile and quiz game extension. More information here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuizGame. Globe - (Talk • Contributions • CA) 14:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Bug for DISPLAYTITLE and ShortDescription
Hi, I have a bug regarding DISPLAYTITLE and ShortDescription.

This is because the display title is not displayed and the short description is not displayed either. The template concerned:

https://bda.miraheze.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Titre ValRaimond (talk) 10:57, 25 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, it's not a bug; I get this all the time. The forced category says that it has an "ignored display title". That is because for some reason pages will only do DisplyTitle if the title matches the page name. Although I don't know how to fix it, I hope this helps! Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 16:47, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually on bda.miraheze.org, I use numbers as a page name and force a display name...ValRaimond (talk) 16:51, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know what to do then. Try not using numbers for page names? Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 16:56, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Except I use numbers to use the same page name for multiple pages...ValRaimond (talk) 17:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, then I don't know what to do. I hope someone else can help you! Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 17:03, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks you!ValRaimond (talk) 17:06, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Changing the interwiki due to errors for companyball wiki
(1) https://companyballwiki.miraheze.org ★ Commander Xiaochan ⚡ (Talk to me for fun) 03:14, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Hyebun This is ✅ --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   15:45, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

DiscussionTools
This may seem like a stupid question, but I can't figure it out for the life of me.

On landarwiki, I enabled the DiscussionTools extension because I would like to use the reply tool, however I do not like the new design with the additional information and whitespace and lack of brackets. I cannot find any documentation on how to use the old design. For example: the 'old design' is used on this page. Please help. Bbbtest (talk | contribs | e-mail) 23:24, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

No link in a navigation (Extension:StructuredNavigation)
How do I remove links that appear in navigation (Extension:StructuredNavigation)? ValRaimond (talk) 19:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Which wiki is this regarding? If you're referring to bda.miraheze.org, I don't see the StructuredNavigation extension enabled on that wiki, if it were, it would appear in bda.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Version. Are you perhaps referring to the regular MediaWiki navigation, located at: bda.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar? If so, then this page may be helpful. | -- FrozenPlum   22:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It is indeed bda.miraheze.org, I had activated it to test but since the links appear while I do not want them to appear...
 * ValRaimond (talk) 07:56, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Infobox Help
How do you move text next to an infobox rather than on top of it? I'm typing long paragraphs of text and it's moving the infobox down the screen Danny0800 (talk) 21:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I have closed the infobox which should fix the problem - PercyUK (talk) 22:18, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * a) Infobox should have  in its CSS to appear on the right side of the page and let other nearby content to appear on the left from it
 * b) Write text after infobox and it'll format beside it - if CSS is correct per a)
 * If you are aiming for what Wikipedia has - first paragraph appears before infobox in mobile version, that's achieved only by their overcomplicated infoboxes; I achieved similar effect w/ other infobox types but it requires some additional hoops in both template and styling.
 * KatozzKita (talk) 10:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Online Users
Hello! Is there any way you could see the users that are online? Not the active users that have made edits in the most recent days. (depending on Manage Wiki settings) But the users that are currently online, who have the Miraheze Wiki pulled up? Oh, and also not with Manage Wiki, because I am not a bureaucrat on the Wiki. Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 12:55, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * There is not, no. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 13:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * oh, okay. Thanks for letting me know. Commetia/Kazakhar (talk/Contact) 17:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)