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I still can't log on to my account.
Every time I log in, it always show the session hijacking. I'm feeling uncomfortable from this and to be honest, I've tried everything I could do in order to succesfully log in. I got rid of cookies and it still won't let me log on. - Tarbiz

I can't log in
When I log in, it just shows something about that action getting cancelled because of session hijacking. User:Lamborghini446

Cannot create new page from search
Normally to create a MediaWiki page, you can simply search for the article in your search box. If the page is not found, MediaWiki will prompt you to create the page. However, on my wiki, I am not prompted to create a new page. I can create a new page if I create a link of a word that does not have a page, but I don't get the link to create a new page from searching a page that does not exist. Is there any feature that must be enabled?

"Exception" error
Hello, and thank you again for your beautiful work!

My wiki is working well, but I have a problem when a new user has to set a new password at first access. The password input works, but after that I see a page which says (italian version):

Errore interno [6ed00020e037182f9468e092] 2020-01-16 10:55:53: Errore irreversibile di tipo "Exception"

Is it possible to fix it? (the best thing should be redirecting the user to a news page, like "Your account is ready, welcome and begin navigatioN"...

Why is new group in "Groups you cannot change" list?
I just created a new group (Editors2) to test. My current editors group members lost their ability to edit. I created a task on Maniphest (T5197). Meanwhile, I'm trying to set up a new group to see if it works better. But the group ended up in the column Groups you cannot change.

Database error Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"
Hello,

I get the below Error when I try to confirm a new user

Unable to create account requests after review using "Extension:ConfirmAccount"

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.

[XlqhX1j8TVgeQ-VWcDebrQAAAI8] 2020-02-29 17:37:35: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"

What do we do? -MeMeGuY

Can someone please give me a very basic and easy to follow guide to creating infoboxes and infobox templates to use on my wiki? Thank you
I mean the subject says it all- I've been trying for hours to figure out how to get an infobox to appear. I would like to create a template for an infobox for cities- so that when I use it for multiple pages, each one about a city, there will be an infobox with facts such as when it was founded, where it is located, who rules it, etc. Everything I have found is written by experts for other advanced users, and extreme absolute beginners like me can't understand a single word. Would somebody know what to do- how to get this result?

From what I've tried, I've received a template loop error, and now all it comes up with is "Template:Infobox" in red, not even "Template:Infobox city" like what I had written. I have a page called Templaet:Infobox city which has some code that looks (for example) like:

and on the page where I want the infobox to appear, I have something (once again, just an example) like:

The examples are just super basic and not actually what I use, but they're to the extent. If someone could please help me understand why the infobox is not appearing, instead saying there's a loop or plain red text, that would be much appreciated.

Side note, if I manage to understand how to get this up and running, having an image in the infobox would be much appreciated. I'm not sure if I'll be able to figure it out on my own, so if you want to explain how that works as well I won't be complaining :)

Thank you very much


 * Welcome to Miraheze! Basically, typing   into a page simply copies ("transcludes") the text of the specified template and inserts it at that point.  You've figured out how to pass parameters.  There is no secret to getting images to appear; the code of the template, after being transcluded with the parameters substituted, simply has to make sense at its new home.  If you are seeing "Template:Infobox" in red, it means that Template:Infobox doesn't exist on your wiki.  Naturally, as your examples suggest that you named it "Infobox city".  This part of the problem I suspect is the result of a simple typo.


 * MediaWiki's help page is here. Wikipedia and other wikis already have "Infobox city", as well as a generic template to build infoboxes for specific uses such as cities.  Our FAQ may help you import their templates.


 * Two general tips: Find a wiki that's already doing what you want to do, and steal the code.  Also, type what you want into the page without using a template, then transfer more and more of it into the template.  But first, solve the naming problem!   11:21 26-Mar-2020

I'm unfortunately back again with more infobox problems :/
Thank you for your message before, but I unfortunately couldn't figure out the problem. I read the wiki, FAQ and revised my Template pages, to no avail.

Firstly, I checked the page I want to infobox to appear on and it said that it was getting templates from both Template:Infobox and Template:Infobox city, even though I only had written in. The Template:Infobox page wasn't needed (or at least I hope not) so whatever I had been messing about in there, I deleted the page, clearing it. I left just Template:Infobox city, but the page where I wanted my infobox continued to say it was pulling templates from the two pages.

It seems like there are two types of templates- the template you have on the "Template:Infobox whatever" page that tells the wiki what parameter goes where, and how to build the infobox, and the template you put on the page where you want the infobox to go. I believe that my problems are with the first kind of template. SO I went to the FAQ to see if there was something about how to use these first kind of infoboxes.

Reading the FAQ I saw you had to import and export templates to get infoboxes to work. In that case, since I don't want a premade infobox template but a custom template to create a custom infobox, I went to Wikipedia and found Template:Infobox, the page I believed had the template to create templates- in specific, the first kind of templates I was talking about, the ones that go on the "Template:Infobox whatever" page. And now I found myself with even MORE problems as I couldn't get the Special:Import page to work.

I had copied the link of the Template:Infobox page from Wikipedia, and using Wikipedia's Special:Export page, I exported it as a XML file. From here, I went to my own wiki's Special:Import page, and placed the file in. Once I got it to work by some miracle, and it said it had imported some pages such as modules and stuff, things I didn't really want. But there it was- the Template page. I went there and... nothing at all. It was blank- even in the script editor. I had gone back to the page where the infobox should be to find nothing at all.

I went back to Wikipedia's Template:Infobox page to try and copy some of the syntax (I think that's what it's called?) of what looked like the template into my own Template:Infobox page. And yet, it read it as the second kind of template I was talking about, the template that draws upon the first. It called upon itself and created a template loop.

I'm going to read about Import and Export, and I would like to read about the first kind of template, but I haven't found any information that I can understand yet. It's like reading a dictionary, but all the definitions are made up of words you don't know the definitions of.

I'm also going to search other people's wiki's on Miraheze to try and find instances of infoboxes and see if I can figure out what they've done.

If you see anything I'm doing wrong, or anything I should be doing, please tell me- it'll be extremely appreciated. Thank you!


 * First of all, rules:
 * Post to talk pages by appending to the relevant section, or creating a new section.
 * Do not erase your previous posts to a talk page.
 * Especially do not erase my response. When you call up an edit box and type in new comments, that's what you're doing.
 * Sign and timestamp your post by typing  at the end of your final line.


 * I think the reason it tells you you are calling both Infobox city and Infobox is that the former calls the latter, because the former is built in terms of the latter. Most Infoboxes, if you try to view them as a page rather than transclude them, will show you instructions on their proper usage.  Typically this includes how to code images:  It may be that you have to type the complete   or even   syntax, or it may be that you just type the name of the image file.  This depends on how much of your parameter the template transcludes and how much the template adds on its own.


 * FAQ won't give you information anywhere this detailed on a specific template. Moreover, what we wrote at FAQ only described the case where you want to import complete templates from a wiki such as Wikipedia.  I use templates and would not want to deal with these complications.  Again I suggest that you get a page to appear the way you want it to, and only then think about using templates to automate the process to simplify creation of additional articles.   00:33 28-Mar-2020

Using chosen value from a field as a category for second field
Hey all, been running myself in circles trying to sort this one out, so hopefully someone has an idea or two I haven't thought of. I'm primarily using PageForms and trying to make a second field use the value of the first field as it's category, which I think needs to just be carried over as a string, though my knowledge sort of fizzles out beyond whats readily found on the internet and I might just be speaking gibberish. Anyway, this is a nonfunctional quasi-code snippet that I think represents what I'd -like- to do, but it seems not nearly as simple:

'System' field|System|mandatory|values from category=Systems|existing values only

'Planet' field|Planet|mandatory|values from category=value_chosen_in_System_field|existing values only

I can reference these fields on the following page of course, but not right on the form page itself. And I know the show on select option exists, but that requires adding all trees into the form manually, whereas I'd prefer it be dynamic as new data will be regularly added to all of the categories. I feel like I am overlooking something obvious, as I certainly can't be the first person to want to do this, and I appreciate any guidance!

Where add template?
I feel so clueless.

I just want to compile research, articles & photos to provide for leaders & others to reference as they're figuring out methods to deal with Coronavirus. Was hoping to do in basic format like this:

Main Title

Section Title Citation Summary of research  (& maybe photo in there somewhere)  ~Just text. No additional title needed Explanation of significance -Some little way to signify transition to new topic, by indent, italic or ??

with ability to add more sections.

Where do I make a template like this & will it automatically be inserted whenever I make a new page? I'm sorry to ask so many questions--I'm trying to learn but also get doing research faster. If you can help me figure out, thanks a TRILLION!!


 * I'm catching on some about formatting, but don't know where to make a template file that will appear on all pages.
 * I saw a reference to "local settings" (I think for css) but I am not able to find. Please help?

Update: I better not keep try to use another format to try to keep records in right now. This has turned out to be too high of a learning curve for me, lol!


 * You might look at my recommendations to someone else in Sec. 5 above.


 * The coding that might help you is a Wikitable:


 * Get the code to work first. Then transfer it to a template to mass-produce it!   22:34 11-Apr-2020

Lost ability to post comments and create pages on Terrible TV Shows Wiki
I was a autoconfirmed user on the wiki but for some reason, I lost the rights. I talked to an admin and he made me as a confirmed user but the problem still hasn't been resolved. How can I become a autoconfirmed user again? I have no issues on Crappy Games Wiki or Awful Movies Wiki where I am a autoconfirmed user. On Rotten Websites Wiki, I'm not an autoconfirmed user but I can still make edits and post comments.

'''Can someone solve my problem? Why are you answering the questions posted after me without answering mine?'''

I can't log in
User:OishiLover75: I'm having trouble logging in. Technical problems are not restored. What should I do? Why don't the instructions above work for me.

Only the Edit Source option is available when trying to update my sandbox plus previous issue still not solved.
I want to update my sandbox on Awful Movies Wiki but it's only letting me edit the source only and not edit the page itself. That's very inconvenient for me because it's much faster to edit as the page should be displayed unless I'm uploading videos.

And I still haven't gotten a reply with the previous issue that I posted last week that I'm having on Terrible TV Shows Wiki. Can someone please let me know what's going on and why Miraheze is becoming worse to use with each passing day?

This is getting ridiculous. Once again, the users who posted after me are getting help from the staff but I get ignored. Can you at least post something so I know what the reason is?

Asian/Far Eastern Wiki Requests
I'm not sure if we have any other users who speak one or more Asian or Far Eastern languages fluently besides (The Pioneer) and  (both of which do not appear to be super active right now), but as of writing there are several requests in the Wiki Requests Queue that are in Korean, Japanese, and I think one in Chinese that need to be serviced by someone who speaks the language. I don't trust machine translations when it comes to Eastern Characters because they have a notorious history of outputting world salad for that kind of stuff. Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:12, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * In Japan, English is not included in the official language, but within the scope of compulsory education in Japan, English is included in the content to be learned.Due to the age restriction of miraheze, it is not necessary to assume that preschoolers will have access.By the way, what is the meaning of "Far Eastern"?Where is my country far from?

I don't know where the center and the end are because the earth looks almost spherical. Would you please teach me where is the center and where is the end?--松 (talk) 06:22, 4 May 2020 (UTC)fix.--松 (talk) 06:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Far East/遠東/極東 is a term used to describe East Asia, Northeast Asia and Southeast Asia. I believe User:Amanda Catherine means CJK text in this context.

As I have put on my user page, my native language is Chinese, and I can understand most written Japanese in daily conversations. So I think I can help. I probably won't be able to help often, though. --Jack980517 (talk) 02:07, 5 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Please do not take unnecessary offense! England, which invented English, has for a long time drawn maps of the world with England (usefully) at the center.  "Far East" denotes those nations on the right edge of the map; "far" does not mean "extreme" in any other sense.  I've seen identical maps in the United States, but with the United States (usefully) at the center.  On these maps, Asia is the Far West.  But "America" is the English term for the United States, and Latin America bristles at the supposed racism because they are parts of the Americas too.  China's name in Chinese, I'm told, means "Middle Country," the same (useful) self-centeredness.   02:19 5-May-2020


 * What I was taught as the only accurate world map was a map with the land and sea drawn on the surface of the ball.The straight line on the earth is essentially a curve, with two points where all meridians meet.It is extremely difficult to project such a figure on a plane so that it is continuous, maintains a size ratio, and maintains an angle.So, what I consider a planar map to be useful is a narrow map of a sufficiently short distance that a straight line can be considered a straight line.So, I thought of miraheze as a global community, so I felt uncomfortable with the expression "Far Eastern".-- Posted by 松 (talk) on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 06:45 --松 (talk) 07:43, 5 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the suggestion that you can understand Japanese and help users.-- Posted by 松 (talk) on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 06:45 --松 (talk) 07:43, 5 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for explaining the relationship between maps and history, which I could not explain well. I promise to make an effort to speak as calmly as possible.-- Posted by 松 (talk) on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 06:45 --松 (talk) 07:43, 5 May 2020 (UTC)


 * It is probably possible to instruct a user who requests the wiki in Japanese to reissue the request in English. This will reduce the concern that there are few users who can understand Japanese.-- Posted by 松 (talk) on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 06:45 --松 (talk) 07:43, 5 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree entirely that there is no map that is planar and accurate and of the whole world. The rectangular map I describe above has huge inaccuracies; its purpose is to show where everything is relative to everything else, and Asia is in the "Far East."  But my point was not to explain maps but to explain why such an expression is in English.  Cheers!   22:51 12-May-2020


 * I have great respect and appreciation for your wealth of knowledge about the content of this discussion and for taking the time to share that knowledge.The examples you have provided are sufficient to make me understand that some parts of Asia are called "Far East" in English.The reason I talked about the ball and the map was because I wanted to explain why I got to the first statement, why I think the ball and tell the place.Thanks.--松 (talk) 10:44, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with Flow
My wiki TV Censorship Wiki, when I set talk to flow and save it, it goes back to wiki text. I have the flow extention enabled and I don't have this problem on my other wikis. Any help? I'm also having this problem with Astonishing Scratchers Wiki --Pacsonic9000 (talk) 13:38, 8 May 2020 (PST)
 * Also experiencing this issue on my Wikis, except for general namespace content model changes as well, not just Flow. I opened a Phabricator task here to hopefully get some eyes on it to see what the problem might be. --Elaeagnifolia (talk) 05:02, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Per the Phabricator issue, this should be resolved now. --Elaeagnifolia (talk) 02:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Detachment from other wikis
I found out that, if I browse any other wikis hosted by Miraheze with my account logged in, my account get attached to that wiki without my recognition and thus the record pops up in the Global account information page. I wish to have only my wiki and miraheze meta on that list. Is it possible to remove all the history I made in those other wikis? --M. Kim (talk) 19:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * While this is technically possible to do, it is almost never done as it can create glitches if you ever want to change your username, among other things. I have only ever seen this done for accounts that are severe violations of a local username policy, but not violations of any global policy, as this allows the account to be locally hidden from public view but still globally active. Note that even if detached, the local wiki will still show up on the global account information page for your username, albeit indicated as "not attached" in the attached date column. It does remove the account from the local wiki's Special:ListUsers page, but again, this is only done in rare circumstances. Amanda Catherine (talk) 20:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC
 * I understand. Thanks! --M. Kim (talk) 20:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This annoys me too. You should become a user of a wiki when you edit the wiki.  You ought to be able to peruse wikis without being tracked!   21:11 9-May-2020
 * If you don’t want to have a local account created, use a private browsing mode which should log you out. The whole purpose of CentralAuth’s SUL2 is automatic account creation & login seamlessly on wikis. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That's only possible when you already know that the site you're about to browse is a Miraheze-based wiki. Especially if the wiki is using its custom domain, you'll never know before you actually access the site. It is absurd to ask someone use a private browsing all the time so this unfortunate incident will happen unless you keep logging in and out whenever you want to edit your own wiki. --M. Kim (talk) 22:46, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21161 or https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T30369 Pppery (talk) 21:48, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with aligning
On the Cookie Clicker Wiki, I use a HTML div to align the infobox template to the right. However, it seems to cause article content to not show to the left of it. Any way to fix this? Daily5 (talk) 20:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem was that the infobox was occupying the full width of the window. I do not know what's in your Infobox, but I went to your wiki and surrounded it with a DIV of my own.  This specified a style of:
 * so that it leaves room for other content, and
 * . Alignment only concerns how the text aligns within the element; float specifies that the element hugs the right edge of the window and other content can "float" around it (to the left).
 * Feel free to revert my edit to your wiki, or take it further to meet your own needs.  22:42 12-May-2020
 * Thanks! Daily5 (talk) 07:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Remove user groups
Hello, I'm relatively new to Miraheze and I was wondering if there's any way to remove some usergroups. Some of them were created by extensions, and I have no use for them since they're jobs are covered by other groups. Jackboog21 (talk) 20:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome! I am not able to fulfill your request, but it will help those who can if you will specify which wiki this concerns.  Cheers!   03:39 16-May-2020
 * It would be helpful had I provided that, apologies. Here's the link: https://yanderesimulator.miraheze.org/ --Jackboog21 (talk) 05:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Criteria for being automatically granted exemption from inactivity
Hello! I noticed while checking out our wiki's settings that the "Exempt from inactivity" box is enabled permanently. Now, I appreciate this because I feel like our community wiki is secure but I want to learn more about the criteria for granting this without us requesting for it. Is there any specific type of wikis that get automatic exemption? On what basis do wikis get exempted without the said wiki staff's request?

Merci. --Audoin (talk) 18:11, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If you did not request it, an exemption should not be there. What is the URL of this wiki? Also, more details can be found at Dormancy Policy/Exemptions regarding the criteria. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 09:07, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

I can't create articles on Stock car racing
I been trying to create articles on https://stockcarracing.miraheze.org but I been seeing this error, 500 Internal Server Error, It has been popping up four times.
 * For the record according to Phabricator this appears to be fixed. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 09:08, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Interwiki links for myndmess.miraheze.org
I would like to make some changes to the myndmess wiki interwiki table:

electoramawiki	https://wiki.electorama.com/wiki/$1	no	no electowikiwiki	https://electowiki.miraheze.org/wiki/$1	no	no myndmesswiki	https://myndmess.miraheze.org/wiki/$1	no	no

When put Main_Page on https://myndmess.miraheze.org/wiki/User:RobLa, the link goes to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (as one would expect). At least on https://myndmess.miraheze.org/ locally, I want the following redirects to work:


 * electoramawiki:Main_Page should direct users to https://wiki.electorama.com/wiki/Main_Page (the legacy version of Electowiki)
 * electowikiwiki:Main_Page should direct users to https://electowiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page (the Miraheze-hosted version of Electowik)
 * myndmesswiki:Main_Page to go to https://myndmess.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page (the one and only myndmess wiki)

I may ask to make these changes on Electowikiwiki, but let's make sure that myndmesswiki is configured correctly first. -- RobLa (talk) 00:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I just fixed a broken link in my comment above. While I'm replying to myself, I'm going to ask y'all nicely, since I forgot to do that. Could someone with Interwiki editing access make the local change I'm asking for above on myndmess.miraheze.org? -- RobLa (talk) 00:37, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You can confirm that this is what you want:
 * {| class="wikitable"

! colspan=4 | For myndmess.miraheze.org ! Prefix !! URL !! Forward !! Transclude
 * electoramawiki || https://wiki.electorama.com/wiki/$1|| no || no
 * electowikiwiki|| https://electowiki.org/wiki/$1|| no || no
 * }
 * I find it unnecessary to create the myndmesswiki interwiki for the myndmess.miraheze.org wiki because it would not be different from the local internal links. Greetings. Hispano76 (talk) 01:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The first two (electoramawiki and electowikiwiki) look great, thanks for the quick response! I would prefer to make "myndmesswiki" links too.  I imagine that there will be content that moves back and forth between the wikis, and I would like to make sure that interwiki links continue to work. Thanks! -- RobLa (talk) 01:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Hispano76 for taking care of this so quickly on Discord/#general. This ticket is complete as far as I'm concerned. -- RobLa (talk) 08:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I find it unnecessary to create the myndmesswiki interwiki for the myndmess.miraheze.org wiki because it would not be different from the local internal links. Greetings. Hispano76 (talk) 01:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The first two (electoramawiki and electowikiwiki) look great, thanks for the quick response! I would prefer to make "myndmesswiki" links too.  I imagine that there will be content that moves back and forth between the wikis, and I would like to make sure that interwiki links continue to work. Thanks! -- RobLa (talk) 01:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Hispano76 for taking care of this so quickly on Discord/#general. This ticket is complete as far as I'm concerned. -- RobLa (talk) 08:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

SiteScout
Hello,

We discovered in T5617 that SiteScout no longer functions. We will shortly be removing this extension from all wikis. See https://git.io/JfuQk for the PR to undeploy it.

Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Gallery tab image switching


How can I enable tabs and images to be switched with "Gallery" tags like this site?

このサイトのように”Gallery”タグでタブが表示され画像を切り替えられるようにするにはどうすればよいですか？—Pencilboryser (talk) 13:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You can enable  from Special:ManageWiki/extensions to enable Extension:Tabs, Extension:Tabber, and Extension:Header Tabs. You can then use one of them (Probably either Tabs or Tabber) to create different tabs and put different images in each tab. --Elaeagnifolia (talk) 15:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

All deleted wikis are displayed as miraheze.org on CA
On CA all deleted wikis are listed as. Is this the intended behavior? Or is it a bug? Was it like this before? --そらたこ (talk) 01:57, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This is indeed a bug caused by some ManageWiki changes. Due to the fact that it is just a "visual" bug and doesn't affect anything else, it has a low priority to be fixed currently. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Reception123! I'm glad I understood why this happen. Thank you as always for your help. I hope this farm will be better. --そらたこ (talk) 15:32, 22 May 2020 (UTC)