User talk:NDKilla/moving on

Okay so I'm going to create a discussion page here that I would like people to stay respectful on, and it will cover several different areas. It is not an RfC yet per-say, but if people comment here that they think an official RfC is appropriate then it will be actioned on.

Please try to follow talk page / discussion ettiquete. Each unrelated comment in a section below should be a level 1 bullet point, replies to that comment should be indented, and all comments on a comment should be indented one more level, unless that would exceed 6 or so indentations, in which case the author may choose to reset the indent all the way to the left margin (no indentation, to avoid confusion with other comments).

I invite the following pinged users to comment on any of the sections below.

Regarding the use of open proxies

 * Several people have been using at least one open proxy that I'm aware of, and I think (haven't CU'd) that two of them just requested Stewardship, as such I think that there should be an official policy along the lines of 'no open proxies' and people using them will be required to appeal to staff (via email) to get global IP block exempt. Account creation on open proxies should be disabled as soon as their use is discovered, and all users using said proxies should be hardblocked IMO. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:51, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the use of shared accounts

 * Personally I think shared accounts should be allowed, although this should be noted on all wikis where the user has a local account, and it will be up to local staff to determine whether it is appropriate to give rights to the account based on whether or not everyone with access to the account should be able to have the rights. For this same reason, shared accounts should never be given global permissions, and users not disclosing this information should be blocked indef/locked -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:51, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the use of multiple accounts

 * Again, I think the use of multiple accounts should be allowed, however vote rigging and anything remotely similar should be expressly forbidden. Users may be able to use multiple accounts for any reason whatsoever, and are under no obligation to link accounts publicly, however the users themselves will be responsible for following a policy of not abusing multiple accounts, and failure to do so, or suspected failure to do so, should result in checkusers and locks/global blocks.

Regarding

 * I have no real objection to most of what has been going on with DQ but I would like to clarify a few things so this section is mostly directed towards them.
 * Depending on what people say in the sections above, your alternate accounts may/may not be unlocked. Staff may ask you to prove that you and Amanda are two different individuals in real life (technically, we have no way on-wiki to determine this).
 * Your requests will probably be granted assuming they only affect your wiki, although I'd like to point out most of the changes you've requested aren't actually doing anything, as Stewards can still bypass all of the technical restrictions you've tried to place (they can grant themselves 'userrights' globally and then revoke your ability to remove their local groups, if need be).
 * Please understand that this is not meant to interfere with you or the operation of your wiki. Everything you, your sister, and MatthewPW have been doing since day one is, whether you agree or not, an attempt to bypass our few official policies and established procedures. The Steward toolset is as large as it can reasonably be to assure Stewards have everything they might need to do anything inside of their scope of responsibilities. An extremely large majority of the permissions inside the Steward user groups (local and global) have never been used. Like I said on the closed RfC (didn't realize it was closed until now), these tools aren't made to be used, and they shouldn't be. If these rights are ever abused, the permissions existing is not the problem, the user abusing them is. Please honestly consider this in all of your future actions, as I honestly think that you should not really be trying to do most of the things you are trying to do. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:51, 6 January 2017 (UTC)