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Cannot create new page from search
Normally to create a MediaWiki page, you can simply search for the article in your search box. If the page is not found, MediaWiki will prompt you to create the page. However, on my wiki, I am not prompted to create a new page. I can create a new page if I create a link of a word that does not have a page, but I don't get the link to create a new page from searching a page that does not exist. Is there any feature that must be enabled?

"Exception" error
Hello, and thank you again for your beautiful work!

My wiki is working well, but I have a problem when a new user has to set a new password at first access. The password input works, but after that I see a page which says (italian version):

Errore interno [6ed00020e037182f9468e092] 2020-01-16 10:55:53: Errore irreversibile di tipo "Exception"

Is it possible to fix it? (the best thing should be redirecting the user to a news page, like "Your account is ready, welcome and begin navigatioN"...

Why is new group in "Groups you cannot change" list?
I just created a new group (Editors2) to test. My current editors group members lost their ability to edit. I created a task on Maniphest (T5197). Meanwhile, I'm trying to set up a new group to see if it works better. But the group ended up in the column Groups you cannot change.

Flamebait/Trollbait Wikis
I have some concerns about wikis are are becoming flamebaits or trollbaits. Some of the wikis hosted here in Miraheze are probably triggering flamewars or trolling like Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki, Atrocious Deviants Wiki, & Atrocious YouTubers Wiki.

There are many complaints/rants from users outside Miraheze about these 3 wikis. These are possible samples: (1) (2)*.

*Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki moved to this site from FANDOM due to being a Trollbait/Flamebait.

Conclusion, I think the 3 wikis needs investigation. Zirukurt01 (talk) 02:39, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, looks like ED mentioned Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki in their article of Atrocious YouTubers Wiki. Now some ED noobs will ridicule these two. At least they admire some members. I'm gonna worry about Bleedman-Hater wars going to be intense because ED knew BM is a pedophile and not in Atrocious Deviants Wiki. --Zirukurt01 (talk) 19:33, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The matter should be looked into by a Steward shortly. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Oboy, that is really f-c-ing dramatic. PiotrGrochowski (talk) 19:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Did anyone do an investigation yet? I think this problem is serious.   . --DeeM28 (talk) 09:12, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Void is looking into this. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:17, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki is not a trollbait/flamebait wiki; it just provides facts (not biased opinions) to each hatedom or fandom that can exist. Anyone that inserts bias will get blocked on the wiki. The wiki is informative, and not the kind for causing heat. I don't know about the other two wikis, but I am sure TF&HW is okay to exist. WickyHoney (talk) 20:33, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think what it really suppose to be, the wiki itself is becoming trollbait/flamebait. Even how hard you try to disprove it, it will become a trollbait/flamebait eventually. Those Pewdiepie Fans, T-Series Haters, Anti-Baby Boomers and other popular fandoms/hatedoms are all aware that TF&HW existed and may prepare an attack. Zirukurt01 (talk) 07:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * As you probably have seen I am in favor of the community role in Miraheze. The community has asked for an investigation into the wikis that may break the policies, but we have got no answers from Stewards about if it started or about its results.    Can we have an update? --DeeM28 (talk) 09:26, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Stewards will not be able to comment on open investigations. A review could take 2 months and a response will likely be made on completion. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:54, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You either have lost hope or have the gall to lie. New users can't even edit unless they message an Administrator for access, so trolls and vandals are unlikely. I have found articles that sound like they mock people or have seen biased pointers, but that's why editing exists. Why give up when we can just edit the blemishes away? Anyone that wants to help should work as a team to make the wiki as informative and up-to-date as possible. The new Admins are working on making things orderly and altruistic. What are you doing?
 * Are you that dense? ? The admins are terribly outnumbered, i'm sure the pewds fans and memers are likely to troll first. If I interview Kiwifarms and ED admins (even if they're atrocious), they're likely to attack too. You're a spiteful opposser as i see. --Zirukurt01 (talk) 22:28, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Have you looked at yourself lately? You're the spiteful one. We have worked extensively to make the wiki great, and you want to throw all of that effort away. WickyHoney (talk) 22:37, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What's the problem, can't feed enough trolls? I saved your asses from ED but now i knew it was a bad idea because i'm trying to stop the inevitable. --Zirukurt01 (talk) 04:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Let’s leave it guys. We don’t need to debate whose spiteful or not. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  06:11, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I had a look and comparing it with the Content Policy, I don't find any real violations of the policy. It would be extremely useful to have evidence of specific examples to look at. On an off-topic note - the huge amount of reoccurring emails we receive regarding this wiki don't help the case being forward either. If anything, the existence of this wiki consumes our time by the number of people who email us the same content rather than the need to investigate issues. As a team, Stewards are extremely overran either in terms of personal, professional or other commitments in general/Miraheze specific. While we appreciate the time this has taken to get a response is not acceptable, the constant inundation of emails we receive does far from give us time to look at this matter. Therefore to summarise what I said - I don't see anything specific needing action here. I'd request people provide specific examples of things which violate the Content Policy or local policies and if possible - please attempt to resolve this locally before coming to us. We explicitly act in a capacity to fill holes where they exist - not to act as an overriding authority people can use to skip local community avenues. If these have been tried and have been unsuccessful - please also provide us examples of these too. Thanks, John (talk) 20:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your answer, better late than never! While I may not agree with the action at least someone finally took the time to check the issue out and see if there are any violations and I understand that you would need more specific examples. DeeM28 (talk) 08:16, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Database error Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"
Hello,

I get the below Error when I try to confirm a new user

Unable to create account requests after review using "Extension:ConfirmAccount"

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.

[XlqhX1j8TVgeQ-VWcDebrQAAAI8] 2020-02-29 17:37:35: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"

Can someone on the Atrocious YouTubers and Toxic Fandoms and Hatedoms wikis make me a autoconfirmed user?
I want to be part of those wikis, helping users out and such.


 * You can message an Admin on those wikis on their UserBoard and request access that way. WickyHoney (talk) 00:52, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Can someone please give me a very basic and easy to follow guide to creating infoboxes and infobox templates to use on my wiki? Thank you
I mean the subject says it all- I've been trying for hours to figure out how to get an infobox to appear. I would like to create a template for an infobox for cities- so that when I use it for multiple pages, each one about a city, there will be an infobox with facts such as when it was founded, where it is located, who rules it, etc. Everything I have found is written by experts for other advanced users, and extreme absolute beginners like me can't understand a single word. Would somebody know what to do- how to get this result?

From what I've tried, I've received a template loop error, and now all it comes up with is "Template:Infobox" in red, not even "Template:Infobox city" like what I had written. I have a page called Templaet:Infobox city which has some code that looks (for example) like:

and on the page where I want the infobox to appear, I have something (once again, just an example) like:

The examples are just super basic and not actually what I use, but they're to the extent. If someone could please help me understand why the infobox is not appearing, instead saying there's a loop or plain red text, that would be much appreciated.

Side note, if I manage to understand how to get this up and running, having an image in the infobox would be much appreciated. I'm not sure if I'll be able to figure it out on my own, so if you want to explain how that works as well I won't be complaining :)

Thank you very much


 * Welcome to Miraheze! Basically, typing   into a page simply copies ("transcludes") the text of the specified template and inserts it at that point.  You've figured out how to pass parameters.  There is no secret to getting images to appear; the code of the template, after being transcluded with the parameters substituted, simply has to make sense at its new home.  If you are seeing "Template:Infobox" in red, it means that Template:Infobox doesn't exist on your wiki.  Naturally, as your examples suggest that you named it "Infobox city".  This part of the problem I suspect is the result of a simple typo.


 * MediaWiki's help page is here. Wikipedia and other wikis already have "Infobox city", as well as a generic template to build infoboxes for specific uses such as cities.  Our FAQ may help you import their templates.


 * Two general tips: Find a wiki that's already doing what you want to do, and steal the code.  Also, type what you want into the page without using a template, then transfer more and more of it into the template.  But first, solve the naming problem!   11:21 26-Mar-2020

I'm unfortunately back again with more infobox problems :/
Thank you for your message before, but I unfortunately couldn't figure out the problem. I read the wiki, FAQ and revised my Template pages, to no avail.

Firstly, I checked the page I want to infobox to appear on and it said that it was getting templates from both Template:Infobox and Template:Infobox city, even though I only had written in. The Template:Infobox page wasn't needed (or at least I hope not) so whatever I had been messing about in there, I deleted the page, clearing it. I left just Template:Infobox city, but the page where I wanted my infobox continued to say it was pulling templates from the two pages.

It seems like there are two types of templates- the template you have on the "Template:Infobox whatever" page that tells the wiki what parameter goes where, and how to build the infobox, and the template you put on the page where you want the infobox to go. I believe that my problems are with the first kind of template. SO I went to the FAQ to see if there was something about how to use these first kind of infoboxes.

Reading the FAQ I saw you had to import and export templates to get infoboxes to work. In that case, since I don't want a premade infobox template but a custom template to create a custom infobox, I went to Wikipedia and found Template:Infobox, the page I believed had the template to create templates- in specific, the first kind of templates I was talking about, the ones that go on the "Template:Infobox whatever" page. And now I found myself with even MORE problems as I couldn't get the Special:Import page to work.

I had copied the link of the Template:Infobox page from Wikipedia, and using Wikipedia's Special:Export page, I exported it as a XML file. From here, I went to my own wiki's Special:Import page, and placed the file in. Once I got it to work by some miracle, and it said it had imported some pages such as modules and stuff, things I didn't really want. But there it was- the Template page. I went there and... nothing at all. It was blank- even in the script editor. I had gone back to the page where the infobox should be to find nothing at all.

I went back to Wikipedia's Template:Infobox page to try and copy some of the syntax (I think that's what it's called?) of what looked like the template into my own Template:Infobox page. And yet, it read it as the second kind of template I was talking about, the template that draws upon the first. It called upon itself and created a template loop.

I'm going to read about Import and Export, and I would like to read about the first kind of template, but I haven't found any information that I can understand yet. It's like reading a dictionary, but all the definitions are made up of words you don't know the definitions of.

I'm also going to search other people's wiki's on Miraheze to try and find instances of infoboxes and see if I can figure out what they've done.

If you see anything I'm doing wrong, or anything I should be doing, please tell me- it'll be extremely appreciated. Thank you!


 * First of all, rules:
 * Post to talk pages by appending to the relevant section, or creating a new section.
 * Do not erase your previous posts to a talk page.
 * Especially do not erase my response. When you call up an edit box and type in new comments, that's what you're doing.
 * Sign and timestamp your post by typing  at the end of your final line.


 * I think the reason it tells you you are calling both Infobox city and Infobox is that the former calls the latter, because the former is built in terms of the latter. Most Infoboxes, if you try to view them as a page rather than transclude them, will show you instructions on their proper usage.  Typically this includes how to code images:  It may be that you have to type the complete   or even   syntax, or it may be that you just type the name of the image file.  This depends on how much of your parameter the template transcludes and how much the template adds on its own.


 * FAQ won't give you information anywhere this detailed on a specific template. Moreover, what we wrote at FAQ only described the case where you want to import complete templates from a wiki such as Wikipedia.  I use templates and would not want to deal with these complications.  Again I suggest that you get a page to appear the way you want it to, and only then think about using templates to automate the process to simplify creation of additional articles.   00:33 28-Mar-2020

Abuse Filter Problems.
I thought I had it, but I didn't. It didn't work and it just blocked editing all together. I was hoping someone here could inform me of how I can create a filter that can block certain words from being published? I thought I figured out a formula but I just fooled myself. It doesn't work. WickyHoney (talk) 05:04, 26 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Careful with those abuse filters! Fortunately, editing an abuse filter is not "editing" and you should be able to go back in and undo your work; if not, contact a steward.  At Uncyclopedia, we used to have a tool called "SpamRegex" (until Wikia took it away from us!) that does exactly what you want (using UNIX "regular expressions" for pattern-matching).   11:23 26-Mar-2020

Still have issues with the coordinates template
Last month I asked if anyone had knowledge of the Coord template. replied here and the upshot was to file a phabricator ticket to attempt to fix the issue with maps not displaying properly, which I did here It has been actioned but I am still having the same problem with maps not displaying properly in all browsers. However, my original request was for the Coord template showing a message and that is still coming up every time I use the following   to display the coordinates. The coordinates render, but not properly as seen in the image. I don't know what Validator is or what it's trying val pagidate but it's messing things up and I haven't the faintest idea how to fix it. Any suggestions? Thanks. 20:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

How is miraheze doing financially?
Im asking because i'm interested in the nordVPN's advertising request (Here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/NordVPN)

Does miraheze make enough money to stay afloat? How much extra? If we're deficit, how deficit are we? I've looked at the Finance page

--Syrian (talk) 02:33, 31 March 2020 (
 * "make" is a question of what "make" refers to. Miraheze has no confirmed and steady financial income. It's all one-off donations. Over the past 3 years, Miraheze has made losses of:
 * $494 in 2019;
 * $1134 in 2018;
 * a profit of $1456 (but there was a one time $1910 donation).
 * 2016 formed our first full year, so there had to be a profit, therefore, I'm not considering it here. So, over the past 3 years, Miraheze has made losses. We stay afloat, but it's because of one-off large donations. For other information:
 * Miraheze has made a total income of $5650 for 2016-2018.
 * $2712 has been donated by organisations in a one-off donation.
 * $1040 has been donated by a single person over 2016-2018 (Labster).
 * This equates to around 66% of our donations coming from single sources. I hope this helps understand the wider situation in more detail. Thanks, Owen (talk) 17:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I should also add, the Board published a financial summary for December 2019-February 2020 which can be viewed at [[File:Miraheze-Limited-Financial-Summary-Dec-Feb-2020.pdf]] Owen (talk) 17:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Please
Please see this. I have added information "what the wiki is for". Hakuline (talk) 06:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) Hakuline (talk) 17:35, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Most users on my wiki forget the ~ on Talk pages
As noted, many users on my wiki forget the ~ on Talk pages. I wish something would auto sign it for them. Jidanni (talk) 11:59, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * What about mediawikiwiki:Extension:DiscussionTools? That shouldn’t be too far away. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Infoboxes don't work on my wiki
So I'm reporting the same problem once again. On my wiki, MyPersonal, the template 'Infobox' that I pasted from the Miraheze Template Wiki just doesn't work. I don't know how to solve the problem and if I lose my patience I'll move to another wiki hosting service. A while ago I reported the same problem, but the paragraph I wrote on this exact page was cancelled. I don't know who did it, why they did it or if I did something wrong or not, but if you didn't want to help me or want to solve the problem, you could just have answered me. You would've made something way better than just ignore me.
 * First of all, last time when you asked for help you did so on an archive page where people don't actively look because it is a page used for archiving. Second, I think you should be more understanding and acknowledge that this is a free service provided by volunteers, instead of threatening to move to another hosting service which will not change anything or make us deal with your request in any other way. As for the issue itself "doesn't work" isn't enough for us to know anything you would have to give us a link or an error for us to be able to look into it. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:31, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

How do I comment on Toxic Fandoms and Hatedoms Wiki?
When I create my account on Toxic Fandoms and Hatedom wiki. I can't comment whatsoever, I just wanted to comment a wiki. How can I do that?


 * You may message an Admin for confirmed rights on the wiki. You can message one on their UserBoard. WickyHoney (talk) 16:46, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * If you cannot do that because editing is disabled, you can try sending them an email via Special:EmailUser or using their talkpage on Meta. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm a newbie at working Miraheze and infoboxes aren't working
Hello I'm sort of new to Miraheze and I'm trying to add infoboxes to a wiki and I followed the Void tutorial, but even after putting in MediaWiki:common.css and common.js, they still look like this: https://speakoniacommunity.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person

Is there something I'm missing? Do I need to import any other modules? Help would be much appreciated SavageBoy69 (talk) 13:13, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Greetings @SavageBoy69. I believe your problem is that you are still missing some modules. Try exporting and importing the following modules:
 * Module:Check for unknown parameters
 * Module:InfoboxImage
 * Module:Separated entries
 * You can use this link to quickly export these modules from the English Wikipedia and then use Special:Import on your wiki to import them. Please let me know if this works. Cheers EK ● 📝 ● 🌎 13:47, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Crummy Scratchers Wiki won't let me comment nor view poll results.
Is there any way to fix this or can you guys fix it? If so, thanks. Pacsonic9000 (talk) 20:41, 6 April 2020 (PST)

Can you fix this page please?
It doesn't load up anymore because it's broken. Can you guys please fix it? https://animatedfeet.miraheze.org/wiki/Wile_E._Coyote Cartoonlover20 (talk) 18:15, 7 April 2020 (UTC)