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How can I give administrator privileges to an user in my wiki?
I am trying to give administrator privileges to an user in my wiki, but I do not know how to. LanomniZ (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Go to the page Special:UserRights and enter the username. Then check the administrator box at the bottom of the right-hand list and click save user groups. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 16:16, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Page placement errors
Any help would be appreciated, I have pages like 2021-08-02_%E2%80%8BSan_Jose adding %E2%80%8B in the requested page url and I'm having issues fixing it, the page url should look like 2021-01-04_Abu_Dhabi but for some reason it's not, I've noticed it's messing up some of my other pages as well. Any help I would why it's doing this, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. PlatinumYellow (talk) 12:30, 14 August 2021 (UTC)


 * This is a normal reaction on the browser side, iirc. The _ still works perfectly. Raidarr (talk) 13:37, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm still unsure how I did it on my browser then, as it's not like I added the pages differently than I have other ones. Thank you for the assistance. PlatinumYellow (talk) 21:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I've been messing around with it, but it still recognises 2021-08-02_Washington,_D.C. as differently than 2021-08-02%E2%80%8B_Washington,_D.C., and I'm not sure whats causing it or how to fix it. PlatinumYellow (talk) 21:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

How can I format my template so that text is displayed a certain way when a user edits a form with the dropdown input type?
(I'm still learning mediawiki through the documentation, so forgive me if I'm not using all the correct terminology. And please let me know if this is the wrong place to ask this question and direct me where to go. :))

I know how to change the values that are chosen from in a dropdown form field by using syntax something like the following:

I'm struggling figuring out how the page forms call pulls information from the template onto the page when it passes through a dropdown or radiobutton input type. I know that what will be displayed depends on what is in the template that is called, but I'm having trouble creating a template that will display things the way that I want. I currently have some type parser function calls on my template that I'm calling, and I believe that makes sure that the are no problems if the field is left empty. But after reading the documentation for page forms, templates, and parser functions, I can't figure out how to get the results I want.

Here is a short description of what I am hoping to achieve:

A user wants to rate the mature content on a movie they have recently seen. They create a new page and are looking at a form. The first section is called "Language" and has several items (Bad Words, Cruel Language, etc.) each with a single checkbox. When they click on the checkbox, more options appear on the form (I've got this working with the show on select feature) such as Rude Language, Mild Swearing, etc. Each of these new items is a dropdown input type. (I can create these just fine). The user then selects Frequent from the dropdown for Rude Language and Occasional for the dropdown for Mild Swearing, and they then save the page.

When the user then looks at the page, on it is displayed a wikitable with column 1 labeled "Language" col 2 labeled "Violence" and so on. In the first row, under column 1 for language are all of the dropdown items that were selected, but none of the checkbox ones. (In this case, it would not display "Bad Words" or "Cruel Language" (because those were subsections of the form used only for the "show on select" but "Frequent Rude Language" and "Occasional Mild Swearing" because those were selected from the dropdown). Ideally, the form would read "Rude Language" (dropdown field with brief, occasional, frequent, constant), while within the table on the page would be displayed "Brief Rude Language" not "Rude Language: Brief".

I believe that the formatting for the wikitable being displayed on the page should be in the template, as well as the items I want to be displayed. And finding how to format these templates is where I am getting confused.

Here is a link to one of my (incomplete) templates and a form definition page with a call to that template (as well as a page created with that form) so that you can see what I have been trying. Template and Form-Definition-Page and also Page-Created-with-that-Form

Thanks so much! ParentRatings (talk) 19:28, 14 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Solved. I figured out that I was looking for the #switch parser function and had an error in my table formatting. I've got it working now. ParentRatings (talk) 17:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Deleting my account
I can't do what I wanted with wiki, so please close my account. Santtu (talk) 06:58, 15 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Santtu We can't delete accounts, per se, but we can anonymize them in one of two ways. We can either rename the account globally to something random and lock it, allowing you to request reinstatement of the account later, or we can do all of that and remove all personally identifying information from the account. Which would you prefer? Dmehus (talk) 04:08, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Santtu Please consider responding to this request if you would like further action taken here. Dmehus (talk) 01:07, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Organizing the categories list
So, the list of categories on the wikis I'm an admincrat on are a mess thanks to these "categories" that simply state the date a blog was made. Here's an example. I would remove them, but I've been told that doing so would screw up the MediaWiki Sitenotice id on the wiki, so is there any sort of way I can hide them from the list to clear up the list? --Blazikeye535 (talk) 04:05, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * If you can, I'd rename them to 2021-08-16 for example, it'll have them in numerical order and thats how I've organised my articles/categories on my wiki. PlatinumYellow (talk) 10:03, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure who told you that, but it sounds superstitious. Automatically added blog categories have nothing to do with the sitenotice id. To reference local conversation, id was only brought up as an excuse for a poorly executed block move.
 * Unfortunately they are generated by mw:Extension:BlogPage and I don't have a useful lead on disabling it aside from suggesting to file a Phabricator task about it. In the meantime to drop them out of lists that should be functionally useful (like Special:UncategorizedCategories]]), consider adding them to an 'Articles by date' global category to make it look natural. Though it would take work to maintain, you can hide them individually with the HIDDENCAT magic word to simply make them disappear from nearly everyone. Aside from the current initiative to manually remove them however, there's not much to be done from truly preventing them to exist. Again, unless you file a task where someone technical can take a look at stripping the function or make it opt in/out. --Raidarr (talk) 13:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Looking for contributors to Shaw's Nightmare Wiki
Hello I am looking for contributors to the Shaw's Nightmare wiki. It is a first person shooter game inspired by Doom and it is for DOS and Windows PCs. It is about a little boy named Shaw, who fell asleep and began to have a nightmare. He must find his way out of the bizarre world, fighting strange creatures along the way.

The wiki is here: https://shawsnightmare.miraheze.org/

Mickey96 (talk) 08:44, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Is it possible to change the username?
I might plan to change my username in the future so i wanted to ask directly if that is possible on Miraheze. Its fine if it isn't. Smashidachi (talk) 11:08, 21 August 2021 (UTC)


 * You can. Just confirm your e-mail here (if you haven't done it yet), and request your account to be renamed here. SPEEDYBEAVER  ( talk ) 11:44, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Taiwan Rail Transport Wiki
Hello, I have a question regarding files on my wiki. My wiki (which is by far about Taipei Metro) uses a lot of files, but I noticed that a lot of them are quite old. Since my wiki isn't Wikipedia, it probably doesn't follow the same licensing rules for images on my wiki then it does on Wikipedia. My question is, can I use images on my wiki that I find on the internet of MRT? Or are there still specific rules I have to follow? 54nd60x (talk) 13:26, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


 * You still have to be compliant with copyright legislation. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Large wiki logo
Hey, I noticed a bug in my logo. The wiki's logo is too large.

https://vincent05.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

What can I do? WindowsViennaFish2010 (talk) 07:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The logo has to be no larger than 160x160. As your logo is bigger, it uses the centre square. Can you reload the logo in the smaller size? PercyUK (talk) 08:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * How? WindowsViennaFish2010 (talk) 09:26, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I have uploaded the new size. I use Firefox and press CTRL + F5 purged my browser and now displaying the new size. At the top of this page will advise how to purge your browser, PercyUK (talk) 10:19, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It worked! WindowsViennaFish2010 (talk) 10:44, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Google maps
I want to embed a google map layer into my wiki - the google map code uses iframe. Does miraheze support iframe, and if it does, do I need to import or add anything. Bertie (talk) 03:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC) Bertie (talk) 03:50, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Miraheze has Maps. It needs to be switched on via  PercyUK (talk) 07:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Request to change the interwiki table
Thank you very much. — XComhghall (talk) 12:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) I would like to request to add the prefix 'miraheze', the url https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/$1, forward = yes, to the interwiki table of XComhghall Wiki.
 * 2) I would like to change the language of XComhghall Wiki's MediaWiki (or database, idk) to traditional Chinese or English, and keep the language of the wiki as Chinese. Could that be possible?
 * This is what I mean: https://xcomhghall.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere (en) and https://xcomhghall.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:连入页面 (traditional Chinese) both redirect to https://xcomhghall.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:链入页面 (simplified Chinese). So it seems to me that the MediaWiki or database of XComhghall Wiki is in simplified Chinese. I do not want any simplified Chinese in the link of my wiki.
 * The reason that I want to keep the language of the wiki as Chinese is that, on https://xcomhghall.miraheze.org/, to the right of the Main page and Discussion tabs on the top, there is a drop-down menu for converting between traditional and simplified Chinese, and even converting regional words. If the language of the wiki is set as either traditional or simplified Chinese, this feature seems to be lost, as in the case of https://hkculture.miraheze.org/.


 * I have added the prefix for your wiki (although, you could also link to miraheze meta by using the  interwiki, But for your other request, When a wiki is set to Chinese for example, when I go to the wiki and enter (on the URL box of my browser) Special:SpecialPages, It won't tell me there's no such page, instead, it will redirect me to how the text should look like according to the language of the wiki (although sometimes it just work like that).
 * That's basically how MediaWiki works, I am unsure there's a way you'd have your wiki set to Chinese language and expect the titles to be in whatever language.
 * FYI, You could change the language of your wiki at this page.
 * Thank you. Ugochimobi (talk) 18:13, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. I understand how to change my wiki's language. I want my wiki to be in Chinese (which includes simplified and traditional). The default titles and urls of a Chinese wiki is in simplified Chinese, but I want them to be in traditional Chinese. It seems that I am not able to achieve that, but thank you still. — XComhghall (talk) 04:17, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Disappearing Pages
Recently all the templates pages and a few others have suddenly disappeared if anyone can help me as I don't know what the problem the wiki link is https://wikian.miraheze.org Genuino467 (talk) 18:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry for the late response. Could you please give us more details? For example, a link to a page which disappeared? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:16, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This page was one of the ones that disappeared: https:// wikian.miraheze.org/wiki/Predefini%C3%A7%C3%A3o:Nobr Genuino467 (talk) 20:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Where to find jokers ;)
I need to know if there are other Wikis about jokes like Nonciclopedia (that I raccomand ;)… just to better bring a smile in Miraheze (believe me) We ALL need it. My intention is to create and communicate within a wikis entirely focused to make fun and joy to random people, so I ask if Miraheze staff knows other satiric/parodistic sites/wikis to suggest me… always yours, Executive2 (talk) 16:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. Unfortunately I don't personally know of any such wikis but you might want to check out Gazetteer_of_wikis, maybe one of them is to your liking. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Do not want wiki edited
Hi is there anyway I can allow our wiki to be seen by a gamer but they cannot edit pages example you just see the source code on pages but cant physically edit them or vandalize them? here is our wiki https://departmentofstarfleet.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page    Admiral Marcus (talk) 17:05, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. Yes, of course. If you only want approved users to be able to edit your wiki you need to go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions, select * and then remove the  permission from that group and then do the same for user (assuming you don't want logged in users to edit either). Then you can assign the edit permission to custom groups. Hope this helps. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:15, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay many thanks Admiral Marcus (talk) 10:09, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

red presets
Please I ask you to fix an error that is messing up my wiki look at some pages and see the templates some are in red as if they never existed but when you click to open and create they are right there.

Example pages: https://wikian.miraheze.org/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal

https://wikian.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikian:Esplanada

Examples of presets that don't appear:

https://wikian.miraheze.org/wiki/Predefini%C3%A7%C3%A3o:Irclogin

https://wikian.miraheze.org/wiki/Predefini%C3%A7%C3%A3o:Eventos_atuais 45.6.58.32 22:39, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Clean CSS and Wikitext
The pages that use the template below say that the page should be Clean CSS and not Wikitext, but as you can see it's in Clean CSS, please, if you can help the page it's: https://wikian.miraheze.org/wiki/Predefini%C3%A7%C3%A3o:Ambox/styles.css Genuino123 (talk) 22:54, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Easypedia contributions
The wiki is in need of some extra help. Its on gazateer under other. Any other questions just ask! Thanks. Sperosdurell (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Its called easypedia Like an encyclopedia. Sperosdurell (talk) 00:51, 28 August 2021 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I'm concerned of commitment here. I've been on a few of your past projects and contributed a fair bit to one, and then it was allowed to simply vanish. Is there any plan as far as really seeing this one through, or is it just going to have a great deal of stubs like previous entries I've seen?
 * Also, this makes me extremely concerned. --Raidarr (talk) 01:25, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Im committed to this wiki. Sperosdurell (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Feel free to help out, sorry about before I was going through stuff mentally. Sperosdurell (talk) 02:01, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Why do you not add a direct link to your wiki? You do not even link the gazeteer. I know where to find it but this means extra effort, greetings, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:26, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * easypedia.miraheze.org Sperosdurell (talk) 10:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * easypedia.miraheze.org Sperosdurell (talk) 10:29, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * https://easypedia.miraheze.org/wiki/ Sperosdurell (talk) 10:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Look under gazeteer easypedia bottom of page. Sperosdurell (talk) 18:23, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

How long does it take to receive a response to a wiki request?
Forgive me if it is mentioned somewhere that I'm yet to read but are the turnaround times at the moment in the order of minutes, days, weeks or longer? David.th340d.Hopkins (talk) 20:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Usually it takes between a few minutes and a few hours. This is a bit late but both your requests have been approved already. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 07:43, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Quotes
If you like quotes check out quotes Sperosdurell (talk) 01:30, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Citizen skin on Meta
Though Citizen skin is available on Miraheze it's not enabled on Meta. I want to use it here because it looks waaay too good and it is also configurable and responsive. WerySkok (talk) 08:23, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Break or even gone for good???
Everyone hates me on here, i can't help the fact i have OCD. I don't know what to do anymore... Should I stay or leave? Thank you for input. Sperosdurell (talk) 11:41, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Improving password standards on Miraheze
Hello all,

In order to comply with the latest security standards, the SRE team wishes to slowly increase password requirements to require that passwords are at least 12 characters.

The plan we thought of would be to progressively institute these requirements: first for global groups, after for local administrators, bureaucrats and bots and finally to extend the longer password requirements to the entire user base.

Before we go ahead with these changes we would like to get feedback from the community, so please do feel free to raise any concerns or provide any feedback you may have or ask us questions about this change and we would be happy to respond.

Thanks, Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 15:09, 4 September 2021 (UTC)


 * My feedback is that this policy is as dumb as most of our Covid-related policy that assumes attaining Zero Risk is more important than living our lives. Anyone who wants the additional security of a longer password can have one instantly.  There is no need to mandate that the entire user base do anything (except perhaps to those with power over the website) except to pat yourselves on the backs for having done something.  If someone is actually asking for this, then implement a customization option for individual wikis where their administration can enforce password length if desired.   20:34 4-Sep-2021


 * Is there a demonstrated need on Miraheze that would entail people changing in this way? I have not seen enough of a wider requirement or evidence on the internet of widespread compromise to think this is in any way necessary. --Raidarr (talk) 00:26, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Adding Custom Font
I have created a custom font face that I want to use (as a web font) for my RPG gaming wiki. Is there a way to upload the .woff (and/or the other format font files) and then utilize it as part of the custom css for my wiki?

As this is a font face I have created from scratch, licensing of it is not an issue as I am the rights holder for the font.

What are the precise, and full steps I need to take to actually get my custom font uploaded then installed and referencing it properly within css as a web font, for use across the entire wiki?

I would be grateful if someone could fully walk me through (or spell out precisely) the all steps needed.

Thanks in advance.— Mitchell Gore (talk) 21:03, 4 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I refer you to the section above.  The   code shown might work if the font is on an accessible website.  Ultimately it would be better to locate the font file on the same server that is serving pages, and I can't help you with that.  But my tutorial on what CSS to write may be helpful.   00:05 6-Sep-2021


 * I've used Goggle fonts in customized CSS in skins on wikis before. It's actually hosting/using a custom font that is the issue. But I do appreciate you sharing your previous post on the topic of partial font loading issues. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 19:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * So does anyone have any experience with uploading and using (i.e. hosting) custom web fonts to their wiki? — Mitchell Gore (talk) 18:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Interwiki for Wikidata?
Hi! Apologies if I'm posting in the wrong place, but I'd like to ask if it's possible for my interwiki table to be changed to allow for interwiki links to Wikidata (I believe "Wikidata" and "d" are the prefixes). Not entirely sure how the interwiki thing works, but I know I've been able to link straight to Wikipedia pages using the "w" prefix. My wiki is vgportdb (maybe vgportdbwiki), any assistance would be appreciated! Njsmooth2600 (talk) 02:14, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Njsmooth2600 This is the correct place, but looking at your local interwiki table, I'm seeing the  prefix pointing to the global interwiki configuration on this wiki, which is currently  . You can definitely override global interwiki table values locally, but it seems like what you're wanting is already set globally, unless I'm misunderstanding? Dmehus (talk) 02:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't notice. My mistake. Well, would it still be possible to add the "Wikidata" prefix? If not, I'll be able to work with just 'd', but the option would be nice. Thanks for your help Njsmooth2600 (talk) 19:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I just added the  prefix for your vgportdb wiki, I hope you're satisfied with that and sorry it was quite late. Greetings. Ugochimobi (talk) 11:21, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Infobox template glitch
This wiki is imported from Fandom to Miraheze, the infobox and the main page have some technical problem.

The main page: https://chromeball.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

Infobox glitch example: https://chromeball.miraheze.org/wiki/Google_Chrome

Instead of having infobox, it becomes this:

Google Chrome General information Release date  Producer  End of support  Available for

I need some assistance to fix this. Thanks

--SchizoACC (talk) 07:26, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Whilst doing this I notice you have found a solution to the Main Page. ThatDudeRightHere requested this wiki on 13 August but not made any edits. The wiki needs a bureaucrat with access to enable services, so I would recommend that you apply for adoption explaining the need for rights. PercyUK (talk) 11:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * is available on Miraheze but needs a bureaucrat to enable it. I use Wikipedia's module infobox which I find easy to create infoboxes. I have added it to the wiki and changed the inuse infoboxes to this system.

Travel guides.
If your interested in travel guides, please check out this Wiki. traveltheworld thanks. Sperosdurell (talk) 17:41, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Free games wiki
Support would be great, freegames Sperosdurell (talk) 03:49, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Can we get statistics on how often particular search terms are used on a wiki?
We're having a discussion on All The Tropes as to whether a particular group of categories are useful. We can't answer that unless we know whether they're being used. Is there any way to get a report on what is being searched for at Special:Search or in the search bar on our wiki pages? Robkelk (talk) 20:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


 * There is not to my knowledge. We could grep access logs and do weird stuff to parse the parameters but I'm not sure how possible or worth it that would be. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  08:47, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

WikiSEO Not Working On Main Page
The WikiSEO extension is not working on my wiki 's Main Page, instead showing a description and image neither first on the page nor relevant. How can this be troubleshooted? Niharuca (talk) 23:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


 * How do you know that it's showing a different description and image? I checked manually in the Element Inspector and saw that the extension has correctly placed a meta tag in the page (the meta tag is used to inform search engines what description and image should be displayed). Thanks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * When the link is posted in platforms such as Discord or Twitter, the previewed description and image is different than the ones set, specifically showing ==== NEWS ==== as the description and File:Logo-gyroaxia-white.png as the image. Niharuca (talk) 01:14, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * An update—I managed to correct the image displayed by disabling Extension:PageImages. However, this solution also causes pages besides the Main Page to display the logo, and the description has not changed. Niharuca (talk) 02:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Character reception wikis
I don't understand why Incredible Characters Wiki and Loathsome Characters Wiki were closed. The wikis did not have any reason for closure. Also, why were they privated, because now I can’t even see any of the content on the wikis. Could these wikis be restored, or at least have their content ported onto the other Qualitipedia wikis if restoration is not an option. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:27, 30 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Also, the websites wikis were closed but are now re-opened somehow, even though there is no log showing that they were re-opened. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This is much the same issue with an admin 'jumping the gun' for closure, with several early supporters of closure having second thoughts later on. --Raidarr (talk) 00:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 01:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I just saw a post saying that there is a discussion on the Qualitipedia meta wiki about the character wikis. There is also a vote about the fate of the websites wikis as well as the creation of neutral reception wikis. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 17:27, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * So why were they closed? Three days since I left this message and still no answer. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:25, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

How do I change the font for everything on my wiki?
I'm wondering what the CSS is to change the font on my wiki https://endlessnightswriting.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page for the whole wiki so I can have it the same as I did on my old Fandom wiki. I did this with CSS on the old one and I already have the font that I'd like to use (Questrial) installed. Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 13:47, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * This is done with font-family applied to the body element, at the most basic level. Not having done this much, I am pretty sure you'd need to do extra from there - ranging from using !important to drive in that you really want to use the font, to inspecting and targeting the straggler elements that have their own font selection. I don't believe Cosmos has a specific function to change fonts with. It's not a very elegant solution and I tend to just try it until it works myself, which I cannot do given your wiki is and presumably will always be private. But it's an interim response until someone more CSS savvy stops by. --Raidarr (talk) 08:26, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm going to try that real quick Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 08:53, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Also I should note I'm using the Cosmos skin and I don't know if it's possible to change the font on that? Just it's the very last thing I need to make my wiki exactly the way I pictured it. Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 08:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

So this is the exact CSS I've used for the font. I've probably done something wrong but also something at least right as my name on my profile is coming up in the font I want, but nothing else. If I've done something wrong, I'll need someone to point it out for me because I'm not very good at this. I'll make my wiki unprivate temporarily if it's needed. The fact something is coming up in the font means it did install right and an aspect of it is working. When I checked inspect element on one of my pages, a lot of the code for the font was crossed out, it was saying the default fonts but crossed out. I don't really know what else to do, I'm kind of stuck. Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 13:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Font is only changing partially on my wiki
I'm sorry to write this topic again but I'm feeling a bit lost with this. The code to change the font on my wiki (which I directly copypasted from here but with the font I wanted to use) and I can tell it's been installed because my username on my profile and the title when I make a new page are in the font I wanted, but nothing else. When I go into inspect element on a page, it says it should be in the font but it's crossed out so I guess it isn't working. I don't know if this is because of the Cosmos skin I'm using but I hope it isn't. I'm not very good at coding and this is the last thing I need to make my wiki perfect so I hope I can have some help with it. Since my wiki is private, I'll put it on unprivate if you ask me to if you're not one of the people who can see it globally. I'll put the code that I'm using in on my next edit. Again, I'm sorry I'm posting this twice, but I'm really lost and I don't know what to do. Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 08:46, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello . The thing we're working with here is called Cascading Style Sheets (CSS); "cascading" means the style sheets can come from many places other than Common.css, including the user's own browser and in-line in the page. There is a hierarchy for which style sheet to follow in the case of a conflict.  The fact that you can see the font in your username and in titles proves that you did @import it correctly.  The strikethrough lets you see that the browser did pick up the command to use Questrial font but that it was overridden by some other style sheet.  You may be able to scroll upward in the pane where you see the strikethrough and see a competing style that did take effect.  As skins dictate a lot of styles to produce a desired visual effect, my guess is that there is a competing style command elsewhere in Cosmos.css that is overriding yours.  Good luck!   23:50 1-Sep-2021


 * PS--I have gone to your wiki and done that very thing. The topmost command I see is a command governing all children of the page's "body" element; it comes from load.php:1 (I think that means from Miraheze itself!  This may be unconditional, or it may be because you chose the Cosmos skin.) and it specifies Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, or else any sans-serif font.


 * In CSS, specific commands override general commands. Helpfully, your two commands include , which makes them override any commands without it.  Your first command dictates your font for "body", but again, Miraheze dictates the font for all of its children!  Your second command dictates your font for H1 (first-level heads; this includes page titles) and H2 (second-level heads).  I think a step forward is if you edit the first command to read as follows (note the change on my line 1):


 * This would cancel out the Miraheze standing order and dictate your style for all children of "body". See if that works.   00:03 2-Sep-2021


 * PS--If this works, then I would remove the second command, the one governing H1 and H2. If they are not direct children of "body", they will inherit the font from an element that is, so this command should now be redundant.


 * Incidentally, I never saw your font, as I have a CSS command on my PC (in my userContent.css) saying what font I want Miraheze to use to render everything.  00:11 2-Sep-2021

Sorry this is a bit of a late response I only just saw this. I first copied and replaced the code you gave me onto Common.css and deleted the other one but nothing happened. I went into inspect element and I think it was the Cosmos skin overriding the default fonts so I put the code into Cosmos.css instead and the font loaded in for everything. Thank you for the help! ^^ Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 15:37, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

#sub
It is available on TestWiki but currently not on my private wiki. I have looked through Special:ManageWiki and can't locate where I need to enable it. PercyUK (talk) 11:13, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Special:ManageWiki/settings > Parser Functions > "Enable string function functionality". --Routhwick (talk) 05:09, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you PercyUK (talk) 07:35, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

My wiki's logo can't appear at many pages except namespace Special
I just upload a new picture as my new logo but it doesn't display properly on the home page and many pages. What should I do next? 永定河 (talk) 14:52, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello.
 * It seems that these sections of CSS in your mh:tounae:Mediawiki:Common.css are overriding your logo selection and replacing it with a non-existent file:
 * If you remove them, the issue should be fixed. Hb1290 (talk) 02:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * If you remove them, the issue should be fixed. Hb1290 (talk) 02:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

New Wiki ideas
Any ideas on a new Wiki to be created, or if interested comment please. My wikis fail so.... Sperosdurell (talk) 23:57, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I would suggest exploring why your wikis fail currently, rather than adding more potential failures. It's not the ideas that are wrong. It's the execution. --Raidarr (talk) 00:28, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * As Raidarr has said above, it would be better to discover why your wikis are failing or else even if we give you ideas, they'll still fail. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:32, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * What exactly do you mean by your wikis are failing? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 20:37, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't edit them enough. Sperosdurell (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Why is that? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 03:45, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I have a Wiki pending so I'll try... U seem interested? Sperosdurell (talk) 03:50, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for asking, I have several wikis myself which I am frequently editing, currently I have no extra time for third party wikis, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 09:39, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Anyone using extension PDFEmbed?
Does anyone use the extension PDFEmbed in their wiki? It seems as if it is not working due to a block of the static.miraheze.org sever. I have already filed a phabricator task, greetings --Lily talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 12:40, 10 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi there, Good job for filing a phab task, let's see how the response goes. I trust the sysadmins to make it work. Ugochimobi (talk) 09:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your interest, the problem has been solved now, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 11:05, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Ugochimobi (talk) 11:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Use the same domain for a wiki and other things
Hello, I would like to use a custom domain for my wiki, but I would also like to use it for other things. I would like to know if it is possible to use the same domain for both a wiki (example.com/wiki/) and for other topics (e.g. example.com/info) that would be separate from the MediaWiki interface, so that the /wiki/ part is just a topic of the complete site and that when you just type example.com, you don't go directly to the wiki, so that you have to type example.com/wiki to access it (I don't know if I'm clear). Have a nice day, Soronos (talk) 18:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi there, AFAIK, once your domain DNS records have been mapped to miraheze's nameservers, you can not use your domain elsewhere, you can only use it on miraheze.
 * I believe this information I just share has answered a lot more of your present quest. Greetings. Ugochimobi (talk) 09:38, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Not to contradict, but I'm quite sure you can adjust the destination subdomain, and even if you can't it only reaches yourdomain.com/wiki, not yourdomain/everyotherlinkhere unless you go out of your way to redirect it to be so. I would make a Phabricator task to verify what you're trying to set up as I haven't personally attempted the process. --Raidarr (talk) 10:25, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

View internal top search terms?
Fandom allows you to see the top internal search terms via the analytics dashboard - is such a thing available on Miraheze? I found the ExtendedStatistics extension (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExtendedStatistics) but it is not available as a default on Miraheze so I wonder if there's an easier way. Thanks in advance ~ HanTheGene (talk) 17:15, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi there, you might want to request this extension to be installed on miraheze using our bugzilla, an Extension Reviewer will review it and if it passes, it will get installed. Ugochimobi (talk) 09:53, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Side note that the software is Phabricator, but potato, potato. Bongo Cat (talk) 15:13, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Now requested at T8038 --Rob Kam (talk) 17:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * And declined:
 * Unfortunately this extension is made for BlueSpice, and therefore likely won't work on normal MediaWiki.
 * --Rob Kam (talk) 13:56, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Unfortunate, but it was worth the ask. Thank you all! ~ HanTheGene (talk) 14:30, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Is there a sitemap I can submit to Google Search Console?
I would like to submit a sitemap of my wiki to Google Search Console.

Is there a sitemap I can submit to Google Search Console?

If so, it would be helpful if you could tell us where to find it.

If not, how can I prepare one? menndouyukkuri (talk) 04:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Added  . - menndouyukkuri (talk) 08:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * We automatically handle sitemaps. I can manually kick it if it's being slow for you wiki if you tell me which. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  08:32, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Problem with tabber in infoboxes
Hello, so here it is: I have a problem with the tabbers that I place in my infoboxes. Indeed, as you can see on this page (https://personnages.miraheze.org/wiki/Ghetis), in the infobox, the tabber is unable to be applied. Why is this? Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 12:30, 17 September 2021 (UTC) Darkrai18 (talk) 12:30, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Tabber is disabled in presets. Ticking the box on this page hopefully gets tabber working - PercyUK (talk) 13:40, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks you very much ! Darkrai18 (talk) 14:12, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Adding Custom Font ( bumped ) SOLVED
I have created a custom font face that I want to use (as a web font) for my RPG gaming wiki. Is there a way to upload the .woff (and/or the other format font files) and then utilize it as part of the custom css for my wiki?

As this is a font face I have created from scratch, licensing of it is not an issue as I am the rights holder for the font.

What are the precise, and full steps I need to take to actually get my custom font hosted (i.e. uploaded then installed) and referencing it properly within css as a web font, for use across the entire wiki?

I would be grateful if someone could fully walk me through (or spell out precisely) the all steps needed for uploading and hosting the custom font. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 23:45, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * if you want to use custom fonts, use: https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Name%20of%20the%20font:400,400i,600,600i&display=swap%27 for example: want Montserrat font? use: @import url('https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Montserrat:400,400i,600,600i&display=swap'); ​in your MediaWiki:Vector.css (or Common.css). Therefore, this issue of using a font in the content of the pages that you created yourself is very complicated YellowFrogger (talk) 23:19, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. The issue was more about uploading (i.e. hosting) a custom made webfont within my wiki's space here miraheze, than using Google fonts within the CSS for my wiki. But again, thank you for the reply. That said, I did manage to figure it out now and I think I have it solved (I hope). Here's an example of my custom Lakise script (fonts) being used on a test page for my fantasy RPG wiki. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 06:39, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Please contribute on my wiki
To anyone that reads this: My wiki needs contributors. Its name is Decyclopedia, it is at decyclopedia.miraheze.org, and it was founded on September 24, 2019 (its two-year anniversary is right around the corner!). It's a humor wiki (at least, it should be). And it needs people like you to contribute to it! Join today! Tali64³ (talk) 01:34, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I will see. But, pornographic content, well, there are a lot of people who don't like it. More is just not overdoing it. The only ones who like it are the ones who come to the site just to... instead of editing, because it's a wiki, not xvideos YellowFrogger (talk) 17:51, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I cut down on the porn. One of the parts of contributing is spreading the word, so, if you have any friends, please tell them about Decyclopedia. Tali64³ (talk) 23:43, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * To provide a counter argument, pornographic content can be acceptable if you stick with it in premise and introduce proper content warnings so the wrong users can't stumble on it. But Miraheze has a significant underage audience, so it may still be a problem in general and it's especially a problem trying to get just anyone to spread it off this section. You might consider appealing to more target audiences than this Meta or a suitable description in the Gazetteer if you haven't already. --Raidarr (talk) 10:21, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Expiry of X3 Root Certificates
Hello all,

From the end of this month, the following users may encounter issues accessing Miraheze due to the expiry of upstream SSL signing certificates:
 * Windows before XP SP3
 * MacOS before 10.12.1
 * iOS before 10
 * Android (2.3.6 - 7.1.1 may be impacted) less than 7.1.1
 * Firefox before 50
 * Ubuntu before 16.04
 * Debian before 8
 * Java: 8 before 8u141 and 7 before 7u151
 * NSS before 3.26
 * All versions of FireOS Silk Browser
 * OpenSSL prior to 1.0.2u

This is not an exhaustive list and others may fail. You may also find devices on that list already has issues due to TLS versions supported.

Please see articles on the Iden Trust X3 Expiration on google for information.

Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Translation request
Hello. Please help translate Template:Shortcut caption in your language. Thanks, --Mazzaz (talk) 08:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ for zh-cn. --SolidBlock (talk) 12:51, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Wiki being stubborn; can't change skin to Chameleon, wiki stuck on MonoBook
Hello people

I manage a Wiki for my Discord server.

Here's my problem:

I wanted to replace the skin on my wiki (MonoBook) with Chameleon, but my wiki is being stubborn, I removed all the skins I added, except Chameleon, and I switched to some other skin, and then I switched back to Chameleon, but nothing happened, and the wiki still defaulted to MonoBook despite how I obviously told it that Chameleon was the default from now on, can you help? Do you need to wait some time before your skin changes? Magicpeartree (talk) 06:03, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Well firstly, upon entering the wiki (I assume Discordia) the first skin I get is actually Apex. I don't see anything named 'Chameleon' as an option in user preferences. Upon examining the skins section it doesn't seem your addition saved. I would try to get it to be used one more time and if that fails, perhaps close out of the browser you're using entirely and let it start over when trying again. Let us know if it doesn't catch - use the skin menu to verify it's there with a checkmark. Only then can it properly become default. The current default I see here appears to be apex, which does seem to be properly added and saved. --Raidarr (talk) 10:13, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * any progress on this issue? --Raidarr (talk) 08:33, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

The role of Global Sysop
I might have the wrong idea on this, so I'd like to present the scenario before presenting something like an RfC to address it. Global sysops are opened with the following line:

"Global Sysops on Miraheze are users who assist Stewards in supporting the community and working with communities to address issues facing them locally as well as cleaning up vandalism, preventing it when possible and enforcing Miraheze's global policies."

This is the opening premise of the page, where the three 'blocks' of duties are supporting communities/addressing their problems in general (clarified in 'Local interference' as being on request or policy need, not just meddling whenever they want), CVT duties and policy enforcement.

However, based on conversations in the past (I sadly do not have diffs to offer at this time) I have gotten the impression that only the CVT portion is regarded, and policy enforcement only with respect to CVT duties. The community support aspect is effectively absent in practice, both with current membership of a few GS with their performed duties and expressed opinions elsewhere on Meta that Global Sysop should effectively stay out of the way of Stewards making decisions on all community matters straight up and stick to CVT. I think this has raised a problem where community dramas or lighter issues that require an authoritative, but not 'top level' take have been left sitting for extended periods, waiting for the absolute top of community managers on Miraheze to review. The current situation here started by a Steward's oversight has been left languishing because it totally depends on the involvement of a Steward who frankly only participates in sprees, not consistently to maintain and review, or various adoption requests that mainly depend on a few community members handling the most obvious cases with any final decisions taking an extended period of time to be made. Likely it would only take a direct poke or mention (like this) for these things to soon be addressed, but otherwise they may be addressed months down the line or whenever somebody decides to get to it. This is not to condemn the Stewards, but note the need of someone acting to review topics like these in a timely manner of their own volition without putting yet more on a Steward's busy plate between here and real life. Faster turnaround to address them would surely look better on Miraheze as a platform, as the response time of Stewards has come up a number of times in observations. Meanwhile nobody can or will address even some of these tasks.

Perhaps this reflects the need for more Stewards, but it's my impression that there is nobody with plentiful time who would really get the position if they tried due to the (reasonable) high conservatism in making appointments, and those who might get it do not wish to take on more given they are already quite filled up with duties such as sysadmin. The clear compromise is staffing a position just below top that can be accountable to both community and the trusted Stewards. The position that is not the final arbiter, but 'good enough' to cover a majority of communal issues in a timely way and defer only if the top (Stewards) are truly needed with their current availability. By stated policy above I think this gap is already filled. But it seems to me there is a strong current that it should not be filled by anyone except Stewards. Am I wrong? Can Global Sysops be more useful and I've mislead myself into believing nobody trusts them to do more, and if someone were to request the role they can get the position on grounds of community support over purely CVT duties? If I am right then I think the language should be changed to reflect this, as it would misleadingly imply and put first the idea that GS are a community support role with CVT as 'another' duty rather than the primary one. But that would mean there is a gap in addressing issues that should be solved another way, as I think the current turnaround time on Steward-level actions should not continue if only for their sake. Thanks for the read. --Raidarr (talk) 13:37, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


 * This is most truly an interesting question. Pursuant to this RfC, the old CVT group's scope was expanded and renamed accordingly. In fact, that section about supporting the community was codified by the aforementioned RfC. I would say your interpretation is correct. Various comments on the RfC thought so too as they also interpreted this as being an expansion of the Global Sysops scope with one user calling the new group "Deputy Stewards". The proposer of the RfC, Reception123, stated in a section supporting the rename of the group that "I think global sysop best describes this group because the role of a sysop is to support the community as well as to combat vandalism, so the name works," suggesting that by expanding Global Sysops scope, they would efficiently be acting as a local sysop would but in a global sense. Additionally, it was suggested that a new "Global Rollback" group with focus only on vandalism be created further reinforcing the idea that Global Sysops are supposed to help the community should they face issues and should be more involved in community affairs as this RfC's purpose ultimately seems to be that.
 * Indeed, focus is primarily put on CVT only and not the latter part of supporting communities. Based on this, I believe Global Sysops could probably help more in the community apart from Counter-vandalism. I don't know what others think but that has been my interpretation of the RfC and scope of Global Sysops. I invite Reception123 to opine on this above and give us his view seeing that he started that RfC and is a current Global Sysop. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:34, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Join Allpedia today!
Join Allpedia today! We are currently looking for trial administrators. If you're interested, message SoyokoAnis on her talk page on Allpedia!

We are also looking for more editors! Come visit us today! SoyokoAnis 19:01, 24 September 2021 (UTC)


 * What does allpedia offer that other general purpose wikis cannot? --Raidarr (talk) 21:37, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

I need to know something
How do I import pages? Musicismylife (talk) 05:30, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You could try using Special:Import on your local wiki if the file is small enough. If it's too big, you'll need to make a Phabricator request. Hope this helps. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:34, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Apparently it appears you can only import pages if you are an administrator. Musicismylife (talk) 08:49, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It's a specific permission to opt into groups I believe.--Raidarr (talk) 09:03, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, the  permission is (by default) granted to administrators. If you don't have the permission, ask that a local admin import the file or ask them to grant you the right to import.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:11, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

It's a bit more difficult than that. There's these reception wikis about foods and restaurants that I originally contributed to, but I stopped because the users from Qualitipedia thought they would be biased and they would cause drama. I do definitely see that know, however, this page could probably be imported to mh:horriblecompanies:Horrible Companies Wiki since it mainly focuses on the actions of the people who run the restaurant and therefore is not biased like most other pages. Musicismylife (talk) 22:50, 29 September 2021 (UTC)


 * The example you mention has no extra content outside of page code (such as comments, the key reason I expect you'd like to use the import feature), so in that case at least the layout can simply be duplicated. Otherwise you may contact, a bureaucrat of the wiki with involvement and good standing across Miraheze to give you the right if you truly need it there. Raidarr (talk) 23:52, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

unitedstatesofamerica.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
My wiki is dead, need help. SperosDurrell (talk) 21:47, 28 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Have you applied any of the suggestions I made in regards to wiki management? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:09, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * im frustrated sorry. Sorry for asking. SperosDurrell (talk) 22:11, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries, I just suggest you try to follow up on some of my suggestions. Perhaps find a group on Discord or the web who would like to document the U.S. and tell them to contribute to your wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:13, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Fandom
i tried fandom again, failed. Im back. SperosDurrell (talk) 21:15, 29 September 2021 (UTC) SperosDurrell (talk) 21:15, 29 September 2021 (UTC)


 * A wiki is a wiki whether you go to Fandom or Miraheze, the key is on how you advertise or manage it. Welcome back. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:23, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 👍👍 SperosDurrell (talk) 21:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * can you give me a topic to make a Wiki on here? Thanks SperosDurrell (talk) 21:41, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please note that you are the subject of a Requests for Comment because of your excessive wiki requests. Even without that, you already have 11 wikis. Please focus on one wiki instead of requesting multiple ones. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:45, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I so badly want to contribute to a new wiki I can manage and gain a following. SperosDurrell (talk) 21:46, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Your previous 11 attempts have failed so far because you cannot focus on only one. If the previous attempts have failed, I doubt your new ones will succeed. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:47, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * can I atleast create 1 more? If no progress ban me. SperosDurrell (talk) 21:49, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No, I will not create 1 more wiki. You promised that if I created  you would stop requesting wikis and yet you requested   and got an unsuspecting wiki creator to approve it. As such, no further wikis will be created for you.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:55, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * close my wikis, let me create 1 more, and no progress ban me. Sorry. SperosDurrell (talk) 21:56, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * U don't have faith in me do you? That is why I don't stick around. Im frustrated and upset by your actions. I suffer from depression, don't judge me. SperosDurrell (talk) 21:59, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Understand from a functional perspective why someone without reliability who has had over a dozen chances and left every one of them alone eventually faces a point where they are no longer accommodated. Frankly, wiki creation may not be your business. --Raidarr (talk) 22:03, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * i disagree. Sorry but u joining my wikis u left them. SperosDurrell (talk) 22:06, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * There's nothing to disagree about. You create wikis and you leave them in the dust. There was nothing for me to contribute to. What you do with that statement is your discretion. --Raidarr (talk) 22:12, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. SperosDurrell (talk) 22:13, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I suggest one of these topics. Possibly this one. --Raidarr (talk) 22:00, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * raidarr please i m sorry im not trolling. SperosDurrell (talk) 22:03, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Do you truly wish for all your other wikis to be closed? Agent Isai Talk to me! 21:58, 29 September 2021 (UTC)


 * yes, please. Im hurt by your pushing me away. I just want to get along. SperosDurrell (talk) 22:00, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I deeply apologize if you believe I am "pushing you away" however, all I want is for you to focus on one topic and wiki, that's it. We run on donations and have finite space. My main concern is that you seem to contribute to a wiki for a few days (on average, 2 days!) and then abandon the wiki. According to my calculations, had you not stopped requesting wikis, you'd have an additional 36 wikis by the end of the year which is unfeasible. Understand that we aren't trying to be mean, we're just trying to use our resources wisely. Again, our sincerest apologies if you believe we have been mean to you and I thank you for your understanding. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:13, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * i appreciate that, agent. I don't want to waste your time, everyone. Can we make a compromise?? Im seriously willing. SperosDurrell (talk) 22:19, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * close wikis please i want a clean slate. SperosDurrell (talk) 15:10, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please make the request on the Stewards' noticeboard to close all your wikis. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:12, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Belgium wiki?
ill put effort in to it watch me. If you see bad editing tell me. SperosDurrell (talk) 04:50, 30 September 2021 (UTC) that a no? SperosDurrell (talk) 04:52, 30 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Nvm im out, for now ✌ SperosDurrell (talk) 05:25, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Limits.
i thought wikis were not limited, just me? My mental health gets in the way but i like to comprimize. SperosDurrell (talk) 15:08, 30 September 2021 (UTC)


 * It's not a rule in concrete but general wasting of Miraheze resources is frowned upon. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:09, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * how many times do I have to tell you, can we come up with a resolution please? SperosDurrell (talk) 15:11, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * There is a simple resolution. Pick a wiki and make it happen, while not requesting many wikis and making them not happen. Follow it and the issue does not exist. --Raidarr (talk) 16:24, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * But there is no rule about requesting wikis. Anyone can order as many wikis as they want! There was even a steward who said that there is no limit to asking for wikis. YellowFrogger (talk) 16:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I beg to differ. Could you show me where they said that? To my best knowledge, they all carry a similar point of view that excessive wikis should not be created as they use resources and are prone to be abandoned unless a justified reason is present. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 17:02, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I've seen a steward say that. But I don't know where it went.
 * Are you the same guy who turned down all my wiki requests? Another wiki creator went there and accepted! You have to review your concepts YellowFrogger (talk) 17:10, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Once I informed said wiki creator, he agreed that you requested way too many wikis. In addition, even a systems administrator agreed that you had requested too many wikis. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 17:13, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * But did you feel obligated to refuse all wikis?. Also because another wiki creator arrived and created others (not all). YellowFrogger (talk) 17:20, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please review the portion where the creator who accepted had not been updated on the concepts and proceeded to agree with why they were declined en masse. --Raidarr (talk) 17:23, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * A limit on wikis and creations is not hardcoded. However, it's my impression that the social limit is how many you can maintain at a given time, and in severe circumstances wiki creators may use their judgement for an excess of provably invalid creations or stewards may step in with cases where users have gone excessive to tell them to knock it off (which does have precedence). --Raidarr (talk) 17:09, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I had only asked for the wiki version in other languages. Only that. YellowFrogger (talk) 17:16, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * On the surface this is an acceptable reason; however the issue as far as I was informed was a) the quantity that would be prohibitively unreasonable to expect from one person at the same time, and b) the lack of sufficient details for the wikis that were requested. The compromise might have been to start one or two alternates, and use their progress as evidence that the rest are sustainable. Please correct me if this impression is wrong. --Raidarr (talk) 17:26, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Infoboxes not working on my wiki
I have been sent here from Phabricator.

On my wiki Ocromia Wiki, infoboxes imported from Wikipedia or other wikis are not working. They are supposed to be right-aligned and a grey colour (like this) but instead, they are left-aligned and transparent (like this). I have been told that a) CSS is missing from the template import and b) doesn't contain what it should. Neither of these were explained on the comments posted on the Phabricator tasks, so does anyone know what might help? TheEagleNebula (talk) 11:47, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


 * It looks like your entire Common.css is blank. You can simply copy and paste the Common.css from Wikipedia's MediaWiki:Common.css. As to the specific part of the CSS in the common.css that hands most of the basic infobox styling, I copy and pasted it here MediaWiki:Common.css syntax for infoboxes. Hope this helps. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 22:12, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It also has to have several important modules, including: Yesno and Infobox for example Yellowass.png (talk) 23:11, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

I am trying to import the infobox template
Hello, I am working on customizing my wiki a bit, and I have been trying to import the Infobox template from template.miraheze.org however, I keep getting an error for this when I try to use the code, and I am unsure why and was wondering if someone can assist me with this.

The error I get is (paraphrasing) "Lua error 80 module:Navbar/configuration" I tried also installing Template:Navbar as well, but it didn't help me either. I am unsure why this is, so anyone who may be willing to help me, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance. Kind regards, Chloe. (talk) 03:49, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I decided to try it one more time, unfortunately, it didn't work.
 * Here is the full error message:
 * undefined Kind regards, Chloe. (talk) 03:55, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , hello. It needs Module:Navbar/configuration which isn't available on templatewiki. However, you can copy wikipedia:Module:Navbar/configuration to Module:Navbar/configuration on your wiki. --Magogre (talk) 05:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh that worked, thank you very much! Kind regards, Chloe. (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

I have one more problem I'm a bit unsure how to fix.
Hello, i was downloading infobox template, I had gotten it installed, however I realized that the documentation looked a bit wrong, so I downloaded all of the CSS files for each respective theme, and imported them into my wiki.

However, I have an error when trying to use them.

Module:Documentation/styles.css must have content model "Sanitized CSS" for TemplateStyles

I downloaded TemplateStyles, as it said that's what you use to get that to work.

I am unsure how to resolve this, as I'm unfamiliar with the term, "Sanitized CSS", and I couldn't find anything online. Any help would be much appreciated, thank you. Kind regards, Chloe. (talk) 15:59, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Please visit Special:ChangeContentModel on your wiki and change the content model of Module:Documentation/styles.css to sanitized CSS. That should fix it. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:33, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Kind regards, Chloe. (talk) 21:22, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Code Editor doesn't note errors, warnings and info
@SolidBlock When SolidBlock and I edit CSS, JavaScript or Lua modules on RSWiki, the code editor does't note errors. Are there any wikis having the similar problems with Code Editor? Zes M Young (talk) 12:42, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

In addition, the following logs that may be relevant are found in the console: Content Security Policy: 页面设置阻止读取位于 blob:https://rs.miraheze.org/fce8550f-73e7-4237-97ef-c826cb8f9c02 的一项资源("script-src"). The same issue happens on Meta as well. --SolidBlock (talk) 12:49, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


 * This issue should be fixed by this but nobody has approved it yet. 13:36, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Now it has been fixed. Zes M Young (talk) 13:07, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Help, embeded content not working
I was doing well building up the content for the land wiki alliance, but recently all my embedded content stopped loading (video's from youtube and vimeo, and google sheets). It all used to work. It just says "this content is blocked. Contact the site owner to fix the issue."

Can someone tell me how to fix this? here is the wiki:

https://landwikialliance.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Jono.hughes (talk) 11:00, 24 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Possibly a CSP issue. I've alerted sysadmins about it but I would recommend you also create a Phabricator task about it. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 17:00, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

I was going to make a post about this because I'm having the same issue on the Random-ness wiki and my friend's private wiki won't load them either. (On Firefox it's coming up as completely blank space.) However on the CLG Wiki the videos are loading fine, so I'm not sure what's going on. Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 16:51, 24 September 2021 (UTC)


 * just to follow up, has this changed or been resolved? --Raidarr (talk) 09:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, no, the same thing is happening, places where videos should be come up as blank. This is also happening on my own wiki as well as the Random-ness wiki I think it might have something to do with the extentions because CLG Wiki displays videos fine, and I think they use a different extention for videos. Raichu&#39;s Endless Nights (talk) 10:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Import multiple images at once
Hello, I would like to know how to import several images at once, like on Fandom. At the moment, I can only import one at a time and it's quite long. Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 09:34, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * If you have all the images already, what some do is enable MsUpload in Special:ManageWiki/extensions and then drag and drop the images in the wiki editor. If you're a bit more tech-savvy, consider using PyWikiBot. Hope this helps. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 13:39, 27 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, the images I want to import are not yet on my wiki. Darkrai18 (talk) 11:47, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
 * has this been resolved? If not, I'll ask for a bit more context to see if this can be settled. --Raidarr (talk) 09:12, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

EditTop Gadget, and Wikiplus
I am trying to add the EditTop (EN Wikipedia) gadget to my wiki (XComhghall Wiki). I imported the definition, the js page, ad the css page, but it does not show up in preferences. What is wrong, and what do I need to do?

I installed Wikiplus (EN Wikipedia), a user-maintained script (see the  discussion on MW), on  my global.js page. It was working fine in August. The edit box appeared on top of the section I edit, as shown in this gif, and can be expanded and moved. Currently, Wikiplus works fine on both EN and ZH Wikipedia, but I am experiencing problems with it on my wiki. The edit box appears at the bottom of the page, cannot be moved, and has lost the original background color, border, design, etc. Do you know what the problem might be? What can I do?

Thank you very much. — XComhghall (talk) 02:34, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Likely you have not imported everything, which might CSS and possibly even JS data outside the JS itself that you imported that is a wikipedia customized dependency (might integrate with something else done wikipedia side that isn't in default mediawiki), and there may be a conflict with whatever skin you're using locally for your own wiki. This is all vague-speak though - is it still an issue? If so I can try to troubleshoot more deeply, or point someone more experienced to this thread. --Raidarr (talk) 09:10, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Both problems (1. the EditTop gadget, 2. Wikiplus) still exist.
 * For the EditTop gadget, I imported MediaWiki: Gadget-edittop, MediaWiki: Gadget-edittop.css, MediaWiki: Gadget-edittop.js, and MediaWiki: Gadgets-definition. However, I cannot find it in Special: Preferences.
 * Wikiplus used to work just fine on Miraheze. The only thing I imported was my global.js page.
 * Thank you very much, XComhghall (talk) 22:15, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Could you please raise $wgExpensiveParserFunctionLimit
The default limit for expensive parser function calls is 99 and altering the $wgExpensiveParserFunctionLimit in the “Manage this wiki's additional settings” page(s) seems to require: Permissions - managewiki-restricted

Is there any way I could get the limit on my wiki raised to over 200 or higher?

One of the Lua modules in some of the templates I have ported over from Wikipedia is currently asking for 189 parser functions.

Thanks in advance. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 06:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Has this been answered elsewhere? I'm behind on watching noticeboards, so just checking to see if it has, and if not, point the attention of someone appropriate to this thread. --Raidarr (talk) 09:07, 9 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I put in the request at phabricator and got it raised to 200, but the Template:Taxonbar I ported over from Wikipedia is still demanding a higher number of parser functions, so it’s still erroring. I have a second request in to have it raised to a higher number, but it hasn't been raised yet (going on 4 days now). – Mitchell Gore (talk) 17:25, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notice. I'm afraid it's a waiting game from here, especially if the limit is getting particularly high (at that point they may prefer to see something less expensive used than keep upping the resources). They'll certainly reply eventually, but I know there's a few rather key tasks that just hopped on their plate, so it might be a bit. --Raidarr (talk) 09:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Little question
Hello, I have a question. If I decide to change the subject of my wiki, for example change a wiki that talks about the characters of the fiction into a wiki that talks about all the fiction (i.e. characters, weapons, games...) while keeping my content, would I have the right to do so? If so, how? Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 14:19, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Are you talking about changing the wiki name? Yellowass.png (talk) 19:14, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe they're talking about changing their wikis scope. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:21, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I talking about scope, effectively. Darkrai18 (talk) 20:26, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * with a community, this must be done with consensus and a clearly defined vote/decision with community support. Without a community I believe this requires special approval to ensure it still fits with Content Policy. That said, I think the change you're making is fairly small and quite reasonable, and there should be no trouble in this case. Just to be safe I'll bring into it (sorry, I think this is the third ping I've thrown today >.>). --Raidarr (talk) 09:05, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, keep me posted then. Darkrai18 (talk) 17:12, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Marble House of PHP recruiting
Hello user, I have had a website I have created that has been abandoned for some time now, and I want to revive it. The Marble House of PHP is a wiki I created dedicated to storing, collecting, discussing, writing, and storytelling literature. It has been over 6 months since I created the wiki, however, there was 0 contributions or users who edited what so ever.. I have posted this topic to encourage activity in this wiki, and if you have enough activity and contributions, you can become an admin. Book and literature lovers, this site may be for you.

Link: marblehouse.miraheze.org

Best regards, Hoxen (talk) 16:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately wikis for creative writing on Miraheze in particular let alone in general is heavily oversaturated, and truly serious projects typically use other platforms or create their own wiki for their setting. So time in the wild has nothing to do with traction I'm afraid. --Raidarr (talk) 19:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * My intent of the wiki was to be somewhat as Wikisource, but with different measures and policies. But creative writing wikis are truly oversaturated. User:Raidarr--Hoxen (talk) 21:17, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I wish you well on this; for what it's worth, perhaps you could do more to develop the structure, since refining the platform might help you get more users than it simply being offered as a 'blank slate' on its own. --Raidarr (talk) 09:00, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Join Shaw's Nightmare wiki
Join the Shaw's Nightmare wiki which is about the Shaw's Nightmare series of first-person shooter games. I'm looking for administrators/moderators, if you are interested go to my profile and talk to me on there.

I'm still looking for editors too to help create articles. Mickey96 (talk) 16:48, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion: search in wikidiscover
Why does Special:WikiDiscover not have search? I mean, i could use Ctrl+F but its painful as i need to navigate to every of the pages

I understand it's gonna probably be hard but this just a suggestion

Also, can someone make a physics wiki and computers wiki? Anpang (talk) 01:47, 8 October 2021 (UTC)


 * A search might be nice to further its usability. I know I've seen physics wikis around, but ironically without a search feature I'm afraid I can't help much. There's AboutPCs for computers, for what it's worth. Though you'd have to put quite a bit of effort into making it happen. In the meantime I'm afraid the Gazetteer of wikis is vaguely your best bet for what it is, and I know it's not an answer here. --Raidarr (talk) 08:58, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

How do I stop the flood of email notifications?
I'm administrator of a wiki. I keep getting email notifications whenever a user edits a page. I specifically set email options to not send me anything but I'm still getting dozens and dozens of emails.

I also tried setting global preferences to no avail.

The only thing that worked outright was to delete my email address.

Should I try anything else? Bulbizarre (talk) 01:38, 9 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Per your wiki's ManageWiki settings, you are set to receive notifications for every edit done on the wiki. To stop this, click the aforementioned link and remove yourself from Users Notified On All Changes ($wmgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges). Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Bulbizarre (talk) 18:00, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Problem with DISPLAYTITLE
Hi. So here it is. I've set up the Displaytitle extension, which allows the title modified by DISPLAYTITLE to appear in categories, for example. But I would like to remove the "Category:" to show only the "Characters of". I can't remove the "Category:" directly in the DISPLAYTITLE, otherwise it doesn't work. The screenshots of my DISPLAYTITLE (above): The problem (below): Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 08:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Upon investigation on my own wikis, the UrlShortener special page extension is conflicting with custom uses of DISPLAYTITLE. I couldn't tell you how to remedy this so they both work together, but if you can pitch the former you may be able to do a quick solve on this issue. --Raidarr (talk) 09:53, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * But concretely, what do I do? Darkrai18 (talk) 10:03, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You either disable UrlShortener or put in a phabricator task to see if that behavior is deliberate. I'm not sure, it might be. Either way, that's the conflict I found. --Raidarr (talk) 10:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I disabled urlshortener, but it didn't change anything. I didn't do anything else. --Darkrai18 (talk) 11:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Request for feedback regarding enabling database compression

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * There appears to be at least a rough consensus here in favour of enabling database compression on all wikis (though we should consider not all users may full understand what this means in technical terms; nevertheless, we should not presume that to be the case and should instead assume that they do), noting that database compression is already enabled on all or most the largest wikis hosted by Miraheze (in terms of database size). While this change would effectively neuter the ReplaceText extension, there is no consensus, as of yet, on removing or otherwise effectively disabling the ReplaceText extension, so SRE is advised to explore every potentially feasible alternative with regard to allowing the ReplaceText extension to be still be used by wikis, for users not familiar with MassEditRegex syntax. Dmehus (talk) 18:16, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Update: SRE has already enabled database compression, but have done so without enabling compression on the current revision of the page, which means that, so far, ReplaceText has not been effectively neutered and can still be used. It would've been nice for SRE to wait for a Steward to close this discussion, but it also nice that they've found a solution that achieves their aims whilst also allows the ReplaceText extension to remain operable. Dmehus (talk) 18:30, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Greetings Miraheze community, SRE is requesting your feedback and input on a proposed change:

While revising our strategy of backing up wiki databases, SRE discovered that compressing wiki databases (a method used by Wikipedia and which will not lead to any database corruption at all) would result in us being able to save database backups for longer and would allow us to save resources (database compression doesn't generally impact wiki performance/loading times). The only issue is that some extensions (namely ReplaceText) do not support database compression and would break. An alternative for the extension is MassEditRegex (note that though the extension says it was last updated 2 years ago, the documentation is misleading. Last update was a few days ago in May by the developer and SRE is working to make it compatible with 1.37 and seems to be nearly done) which offers many more features than ReplaceText and is compatible with database compression. However, even so, SRE is requesting your feedback about the proposed change.

While the affected extension has a replacement, we'd still like to hear what you think about this change and about any possible concern you may have. Please reply under this thread with your thoughts on the matter. Thank you! Agent Isai Talk to me! 16:39, 12 October 2021 (UTC)


 * If incompatible content can be replaced with equal or better with a minimum of work from the user side and there are otherwise only benefits, I think it would be prudent to do this as soon as possible. Honestly I think I assumed this was being done in the first place. --Raidarr (talk) 16:43, 12 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Is ReplaceText the only extension that would stop working? Bongo50 (talk) 18:09, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's currently known of. If knows of others that would be affected, I invite him to mention them or confirm that there should be no more trouble. --Raidarr (talk) 23:27, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't really understand what these compression stuff means but it sounds good so i support. Anpang (talk) 00:55, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I 100% this change, as it is better for the farm, and it’s users.   —［ <span style="font-weight:800; padding:0.25em 0.5em;border-radius:.35em;background-color:#d2527f;background:background-image: linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -ms-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -khtml-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228););color:rgba(255,255,255,1);text-shadow:0 1px 1px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2)">Bukkit  ］［  Talk  |  Contributions  |  Barnstars  22:11, 12 October 2021 (UTC)


 * ReplaceText is indispensable in wiki administration. --NimoStar (talk) 01:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hence why we linked the MassEditRegex extension. It does all the same functions as ReplaceText and offers even more features. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 01:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Replace_Text has last version july 2021, MassEditRegex is from 2019. SRE refused before to add extensions which have been unmantained for two years. Besides, what is statistically the real performance impact of compression in load times and administrative tasks? I reckon that if it is compressed, it needs to uncompress - that must consume server side resources, necessarily. --NimoStar (talk) 01:57, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It seems that the developer hasn't had time to update the MediaWiki.org documentation to reflect the updates but the update is being currently updated and is deployed across Miraheze (Special:ManageWiki/extensions -> Special pages -> Mass Edit via Regular Expressions). As for (de)compression and load times, it would not affect it at all. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * ReplaceText does its job really great and I use it almost every day. I haven't used MassRegEdit, but it doesn't seem actively maintained which worries me, and also don't know if have all characteristics as ReplaceText. Another strong point in favour of ReplaceText is that comes by default. And what about data integrity? Handling compressed databases could lead to easier data corruption. Have you evaluated to introduce data compression support in ReplaceText? 02:18, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Please see the above comments. The extension is actively maintained and is even deployed here on Miraheze. Data integrity is no issue with compressed databases so don't worry about that, it's even used by Wikipedia (see their config here which means that they have tried it out and that there is no issue on their part that would prevent them from rolling it out. We have evaluated that and we believe it will even benefit you as we'll be able to better back up your wiki and keep backups for longer. As for evaluating using data compression in Replace Text, an upstream dev would need to introduce support for it. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:37, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Conservation of resources takes priority over the inconvenience of having to switch to MassEditRegex from ReplaceText. Wikis should be given a head's up of at least two weeks (or whatever duration deemed reasonable) in advance before the transition to database compression. --SchizoidNightmares (talk) 03:56, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * MassEditRegex seems to have very comparable functionality to ReplaceText, and increasing data and backup retention time is always a plus in my opinion. I should note, though, that the last real update (excluding the automated translatewiki/libraryupgrader commits) to MassEditRegex was May 2021, not "a few days ago" as the original post states. That being said, the last updated date is not always a good metric for determining the state of an extension's maintenance, as many extensions do not require much maintenance to begin with. Joritochip (talk) 05:18, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Will it be possible for individual wikis to have this change reversed after it has been made? Also, a couple of notes regarding MassEditRegex: 1) it is not bundled with MediaWiki core unlike ReplaceText making it less reliable, 2) please do not try to mislead people like paid PR people in for-profit organisations, you will only lose trust that way; the last actual code change to the extension happened on May, 3) the extension does not work at all on 1.37. Also, why is this a vote?
 * PS. I get why SRE wants this change but please do not proceed with this without providing alternatives to all affected features people are using. 14:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Database decompression hasn't been tried out before but as it only compresses MediaWiki's text table using zlib, it shouldn't be too hard to do. Now, onto your questions. 1) I will note that sometimes bundling extensions causes slower security fixes 2) I apologize for the incorrect statement. This was not done on purpose to mislead people but instead due to an oversight on my part for not fully checking the commit history and seeing that automated i18n changes were done. Indeed, the last update was done in May. 3) SRE is working to make MassEditRegex MediaWiki 1.37 compatible and seems to nearly be done in porting it over. As for the votes, I don't know why people started voting as this thread was made only for feedback and not as a vote. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * We have now updated the extension so it works with 1.37 :) ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  18:59, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Belated thanks, Agent and Rhinos. :) 13:29, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * . It looks like it would be easy to switch to the new extension to solve the lack of support from the old extension. The rest are merely upgrades in my opinion. Matthew Cenance (talk) 15:27, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I've read the documentation for MassEditRegex and Replace Text, and I have some concerns about various features that MassEditRegex seems to lack:
 * Replace Text has the feature of replacing text in page titles (as in moving those pages), which MassEditRegex does not seem to have. Is there any easy-to-use replacement for this?
 * When using Replace Text, after searching for the text you get a list of checkboxes so that you can unselect pages where you do not want text to be replaced. MassEditRegex does not seem to have this feature.
 * According to MassEditRegex's documentation in the "Known issues" section, it has the issue of not being able to replace text only in certain namespaces. Replace Text does not have issues with specifying by namespace, and can even target multiple namespaces.
 * @Agent Isai
 * Considering these issues with MassEditRegex, I don't think the loss of Replace Text is okay, unless the features mentioned here can be replicated in an easy-to-use fashion. K599 (talk) 23:39, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies for not seeing your reply, your ping didn't show in my mentions. 1) There does not seem to be. 2) MassEditRegex allows you to specify what pages you want it to edit and what pages you don't want it to edit in it's main page. 3) It seems this only happens when using the page prefix option but I am unaware of whether this issue is still present or not. If you wish, I can forward your concern regarding the bug to SRE who has worked recently on the extension to ensure comparability with MediaWiki 1.37. Overall, while MassEditRegex may not be a one-stop replacement for ReplaceText (though they do do similar jobs and MassEditRegex supports regular expressions), we hope that the proposed change allows us to better server you as it allows us to better secure your wikis with long-term backups now that disk usage is slashed in half and better utilize resources now that disk space is freed up. While it may feel like a bit of a tradeoff, we want users to know and to give their opinions on it, especially those users who actually do utilize ReplaceText. We do hope to be able to possibly provide more alternatives in the future or perhaps be able to tweak MassEditRegex to support title renamings. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:28, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * @Agent Isai For #2, if I understand the documentation correctly, MassEditRegex only allows you to specify pages before the search, while Replace Text allows you to choose which replacements you want after the search. Therefore, MassEditRegex would require you to know what the specific pages you want to target are beforehand, while Replace Text allows you to search and get a list of replacements that you can then deselect what you want, so to me, Replace Text is more convenient than MassEditRegex in this case.
 * If the only benefit to this is long-term backups, then I don't think this is worth losing Replace Text, because the backups that I believe would be important would be backups of the page contents and edit history of wikis, and such backups of public wikis can simply be uploaded to Internet Archive, which they already are, unless I'm mistaken on any part of this. K599 (talk) 01:31, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd like everyone in this discussion to at least be aware of the issues I've pointed out with MassEditRegex, and why it isn't really a good replacement for Replace Text, so I'm going to ping everyone here.
 * @Raidarr@Anpang@Bukkit@SchizoidNightmares@Joritochip@Matthew Cenance K599 (talk) 20:22, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps could you not ping everyone?  —［ <span style="font-weight:800; padding:0.25em 0.5em;border-radius:.35em;background-color:#d2527f;background:background-image: linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -o-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -ms-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228); background-image: -khtml-linear-gradient(45deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C,#F83A0C,#FF6347,#FFD228););color:rgba(255,255,255,1);text-shadow:0 1px 1px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2)">Bukkit  ］［ Talk  |  Contributions  |  Barnstars  21:25, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, I prefer that people are aware of issues with this, and I know that people aren't going to look at this discussion again unless someone tells them about it. K599 (talk) 01:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You just pinged all the people Anpang   Talk  01:05, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Question: Is it at all possible to make regular use of compressOld.php to only compress old revisions? This way the current revisions could remain uncompressed and accessible to ReplaceText? -- Void  Whispers 01:45, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That is something we could consider to achieve what we require while causing minimal disruption to wiki users. John (talk) 11:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Given the above post highlighting flaws in comparison to ReplaceText (which I'm frankly not familiar with), I think this is very much worth exploring. Given the utility of these changes being mainly sold for backups it's especially compelling, although I'd assume there's some loss given compression on live wikis saves a fair bit of space as well? The other thought, perhaps naive, would be changing ReplaceText to have utility on compressed data. I'd assume this is at least difficult or I'd expect it would have already been considered. --Raidarr (talk) 12:26, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


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