Meta:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive 2

Index Wiki
Can it have a link on the main page or sidebar so new users know they can go to it and create a page about their wiki or find information about existing wikis? D4rkst4r (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Please check Stewards' noticeboard as Administrator's noticeboard is not the appropriate page for other wikis than meta. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 03:56, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Removal or Switiching of Administrator rights for User:QuimGil
Hi everyone. I have noticed that User:QuimGil is an administrator but has no edits globally or on meta. I think that it's not a good idea to have inactive administrators on Meta. Therefore, I propose that either his rights are removed or they are switched to his other account used more often, Icaria36. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 05:40, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Comments

 * The user is Inactive and shouldn't stay with Administrator permissions. SleepyMode  18:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Neither really appears active on Meta. to see if either replies. (This is also assuming the two are the same user. I haven't seen this on wiki, don't know them well, and will not be performing a check). -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 21:55, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * (I didn't even support it myself) As I don't think we should have inactive sysops on meta. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 19:19, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Rollback permissions on the Meta
Hello there,

I simply Request Rollback permissions permissions on the wiki, as It is a quite basic Permission that might be required in some specific situations and That is only one Administrator active, It would be likely to help him in such a basic thing, And let him do the Real job he needs to do. SleepyMode 11:04, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Votes

 * Not against the user having permissions, in fact I support the user themselves, but I'm not sure how much these rights are needed as Meta isn't very active and there's already more than 5 sysops. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 17:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Per NDKilla. The user is active and helps a lot at Miraheze but there is no need for rollback as we've only had 2 vandals on Meta since the creation of Miraheze. If there will be vandalism you will probably be assigned. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 20:05, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm actually thinking of writing an essay on the subject matter. In my own opinion, and not representing any policy or view of Miraheze staff, I think that if something needs to be done, it should be done by anyone able to, and as many people should be able to as possible. IMHO the only reason rights shouldn't be granted is if there is a reason to believe that they will be misused, the request for rights is made in bad faith, or there is a security/privacy reason to deny the request. Examples for such requests that should be considered more in depth would include server access, stewardship, crat, and Oversight/CheckUser. Autopatrol/confirmed/etc (including rollback) can be easily removed. Rollbacks can easily be reverted, including rolling back the rollback. Well sysop can not be as easily removed, it can still be removed by any active steward or bureaucrat. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅, until I hear from SPF or I see these rights used abusively or in bad faith, I'm going to go ahead and assigning these rights. I'd honestly like some discussion about why they SHOULDN'T be assigned, instead of this. :) -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I think this was the best way to solve the problem :) And I generally give autopatrolled to users who are active on Meta and don't need to be patrolled. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 05:15, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Translation Main page/de
Hey there, just saw the translation of the german main page is not yet complete. May I translate it? Clicking the "translation" button brought me to another page but there is obviously no link to go one step further. How to do it? Simple editing seem to be blocked --Supermohi (talk) 18:26, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * done --Supermohi (talk) 21:10, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Approval of requested Wiki
Hi guys,

I requested a Wiki two days ago. I am surprised that it is not approved yet. I saw on the request page that other Wikis which were requested later are already approved. If you need more information from me, please let me know. If you don't want to approve it, that's fine too, but please let me know. I requested the Wiki under the user name hdegen.

Regards, -Helmut
 * Hello there Helmut, Please sign using " ~ " next time, also, It would be nice if you link me to the request?[some are missed]

Creating new meta account yields database error
I submitted the form to create a new meta account and got this error: "A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. Function: User::idForName Error: 1205 Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (185.52.1.77)"

I was using Chrome Version 48.0.2564.103 (64-bit) on Ubuntu 14.04 64bit on Monday February 22, 21:09 CST Tried twice, same error message resulted. Then tried 3rd time, got message that my user name was already in use. I logged into Meta without a problem.

Greetings! We're aware of such issues, and will get them fixed ASAP. Sorry for the inconvenience! Samuel (talk) 00:44, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Another approval of requested wiki
Hello guys,

I've requested a wiki page two weeks ago. I've checked it out everyday. But, it looks still 'in review' status. Could you please review it and approve the request quickly? The link is https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/581 Thanks. - Sahara

✅ per the queue. --S (talk) 05:40, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Add a donation section to the Main Page
I put a request here:
 * https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Miraheze

Can someone add a donations section to the Main Page?

Maybe below the Contact us IRC: #miraheze (recommended) Facebook: Miraheze Twitter: @miraheze On-wiki: Help center section?

Donations

for details on how to make a donation, please see the Donate page.

Wondering how your donations have been used? Look at the Finance page.

Thanks! --Robert Sterbal 412-977-3526
 * I will talk to the founders of Miraheze and see what they think. Reception123 <font color="#4418E1"> (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 05:32, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Duplicate Wiki Request (Alberhill Community)
Hi, I'm new and accidentally made a second request for this Wiki. Thanks. Cass

Hi. Both a request wiki was declined, because the custom domain are contains (space) " ". Before your make request you may read this.Thanks TriX (talk) 06:28, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have created the wiki temporarily at alberhill.miraheze.org. Could you please send an email to csr@undefinedMiraheze.org in order to progress the custom domain. Thanks, John (talk) 06:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Not Safe for Work Content Policy?
Hello, I just wanted to ask whether or not Miraheze has a policy concerning wikis that have content considered NSFW? I noticed there were wikis for subjects such as fanfiction, which although not inherently NSFW, does venture into that type of content frequently. If an archive wiki dedicated to a genre of NSFW content was requested, would it be closed immediately or would it just be marked as being home to NSFW content and allowed to exist in the Miraheze community? Thank you, 178.17.170.99 00:15, 2 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi; content policy is a work in progress. Until that anything (as long it doesn't violate law in the United States and The Netherlands) should be fine. But - if in doubt, please ask our staff member . Southparkfan (talk) 12:15, 2 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The only thing we're really concerned about in terms of NSFW content, at a farm-wide level, is hosting pornographic pictures/video of real humans. And that's only because running such sites is so hard to police, and may need legal things like an over-18 clickthrough that we haven't figured out technically.  Individual wikis may have more stringent requirements.  Metawiki has a policy of no NSFW content, because everyone needs to be able to read here.  I hope that answers your question.  Were you going to request "Bubblegum Pink: Raging Fires Wiki" 😝? --Vorticity (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Actually, I was thinking about creating a Yiff Comics archive. There exists an archive on Reddit ( www.reddit.com/r/pureyc/ ) Couldn't post a hyperlink., and although Reddit is ok for the time being, it would be a lot easier to manage and organize if the archive was located on a wiki. 188.138.9.49 05:58, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll be using this account from now on to avoid confusion. Pyrexcys (talk) 06:45, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Would a wiki of this nature be acceptable since it doesn't have to do with real humans? Pyrexcys (talk) 04:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't put in a request until you hear back from Vorticity (He'll probably have the final say on the content policy), but I think the answer would be yes as long as no images of real people or animals are ever uploaded to the site. I've asked several times and never really demanded a yes or no answer, and it hasn't been a problem since I haven't actually done it yet, but hopefully you get an answer soon. If he gets on IRC I'll poke him about this section. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I totally wasn't going to do this or anything. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:27, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty close to approving this, but let me pivot to a different question: How much image data would be involved with storing this wiki? We're not really set up to host a large amount of data right now, but if it's measured in megabytes we'll probably be OK.  I think an over 18 "Adult Content" warning would be appropriate, but I would essentially have to write a Mediawiki extension to do that.  And ED doesn't care about warnings, so why should we?  (Also hosting this wiki could earn Miraheze an ED page, lol.)  --Vorticity (talk) 23:56, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You'll have to inform me on the initialism ED and what an "ED page" is. In terms of storage requirements, the comics are only linked to, the actual images are stored on the original author's website. If the original author's website is inaccessible the comic might be stored on a third-party server. Each article is formatted similar to the novel articles that currently exist on Wikipedia (reference). The only part of the wiki that would take up any significant space is comic book covers, but even those could be hosted from the original comic location or a third-party site. Concerning the warnings of "Adult Content," there wouldn't be any graphic images from a comic in any particular article (exception being too graphic covers that would either have to be censored or provided through a link), but the text of the article would still likely be considered adult content. Pyrexcys (talk) 06:15, 5 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I decided to submit the wiki request so I can get working on the wiki as soon as possible if it gets approved. Does anyone know of a place where I can preview articles before the wiki exists? I know that I can use the preview button on some random wiki but I'd rather not risk submitting a unrelated page to another wiki (low probability I know, but I'm paranoid). Pyrexcys (talk) 02:34, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅. Just use your own wiki to edit 😀.  Let us know if you need any features installed on your wiki.  Also ED = Encyclopedia Dramatica, which is a wiki filled with horrible people and lulz. --Vorticity (talk) 21:13, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

(reset indent) Wanted you to see the disclaimer here and just get your thoughts on it. Should hopefully still be acceptable. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 19:25, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't see a problem there. It's not my job to verify the accuracy of statements on wikis, just to make sure that anything they say doesn't get us in legal trouble. Not seeing any long wavelength-colored flags here, either for the farm policy or the law. LGTM. --Vorticity (talk) 07:37, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Working on Meta
How does one begin work/tasks on the Meta wiki (changing pages, creating new pages, etc.)? Tankobot (talk) 07:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Replying here instead of on various talk pages. Your edits to Helpful People were blocked by the Abuse Filter. Once your account gains 'autoconfirmed' status (10 edits + 4 days account age, IIRC), then you will be able to edit pages without tripping any of the filters (on this wiki). I kind of like the Helpful People page, but having duplicate lists (one of which is now out-dated because I updated the HP one) is a bad idea. I'm thinking about removing the one on IRC and doing something like below.

For a list of staff and volunteers, please see Helpful People.


 * Anyways, sorry about that :) thank you for contributing. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:22, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Requests and Custom Domains
There's no place for this really so dropping a note here (in addition to what I said on IRC). In future, please create wikis which ask for a custom domain under a subdomain which some-what distinguishes the domain name (e.g. xx.yy.org would be xxyywiki, wiki.xxy.org would be wikixxywiki etc.) instead of leaving requests marked as 'inreview'. If a user really wants a custom domain for the wiki, they'd follow it up, there's no reason to prevent creation because of it. Also it would have to be done anyway so just makes work easier later on. Thanks, John (talk) 16:20, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * For the record, Custom domains says In the meantime a wiki creator will create the wiki, and associate a .miraheze.org it., so this is supposed to be done, there just shouldn't be a delay to it. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 00:54, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Template broken
You can see the template TriX (talk) 09:15, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Scributno is not enabled on Meta Wiki and Module:Message box wasn't imported. Is there a need for this or are you adding random templates from Wikipedia? -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 11:10, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi NDKilla Yes it is needed a scributno so I can imported from wp and also enabling a sintax highlight. Thanks :) TriX (talk) 12:59, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay I see you want to import this stuff but why do you need it or syntax highlight? There shouldn't really be any code on this wiki and I think the templates we have are good. If you have a specific template you need, let me know and we may enable Scribunto or create a work around, but I don't think Meta should be cluttered with multi-purpose templates we never use. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 13:17, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I think template in meta should be complete. I just wanted to complete the template on meta. However, if not used, then I do not to created. :) TriX (talk) 13:28, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * In my personal opinion things on Meta should be created as needed, to not create extra work. If you don't currently have a reason to enable it, then I'm going to hold off on enabling it. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 13:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Need permissions to add users
Hi,

I need to be able to add users, especially after I get the wiki made private (previous request today).

Thanks,

Rulmer


 * You already can add users. (On your wiki) please see the pages Special:CreateAccount and Special:UserRights which (after your wiki is made private) would be used to add users to the 'member' group. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:36, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * PS, since this is about your wiki, this would usually go on SN not Administrators' noticeboard. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Lack of general disclaimer
I noticed that the Meta wiki has a lack of a general disclaimer, I apologise if this is the wrong place for this but I imagine that the creation of such policy would be in the hand of administrators only. My wiki is lacking a general disclaimer and I was going to use what I thought Miraheze would have however it does not have one, it might be useful for a lot more wiki owners if such a one was created. Apologies for any inconvenience. LulzKiller (talk) 15:48, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Is this a valid edit?
Is this a valid edit to somebody's User page other than one's own?

https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:RedditNavy&curid=5370&diff=20815&oldid=20636

--Robkelk (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No, it is not a valid edit. I have told Amanda on IRC that doing that is unacceptable and it should not repeated. 14:11, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Should the page have been deleted, then? --Robkelk (talk) 15:20, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The page was not deleted because of Amanda's request, it was deleted because 1) the user blanked the page which indicates that they want deletion 2) the content before wasn't really userpage content and it should be wiki content. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 15:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * So then it was a valid action and request then? Nothing stipulates certain people have to request deletion neither only certain accounts can edit user pages. Validity is in the action not the person to me. John (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Was it the user who blanked the page? Since the page has been deleted, I cannot double-check, but I thought that the Recent Changes list indicated that it was Amanda who blanked the change. Could an admin verify this, please? --Robkelk (talk) 16:49, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The page was blanked by the user. -- Void  Whispers 17:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Meta policy
As there are a lot of issues with recent actions on Meta made either by Stewards, by non-stewards or by Meta administrators I think that a policy is required to ensure that the rules on Meta are clear. I have created User:Reception123/Meta policy (draft) and anyone is invited to edit it and/or comment on it. After the version is seen by users a vote would be required to decide if this should be the Meta policy, but for now I think we should just leave it to comments.

Comments
There's some sloppy wording in there that will be likely twisted to malefactors' benefit if it's left as-is. I've left specific comments in the document. --Robkelk (talk) 16:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The sentence regarding removing comments at RFC should be removed from the draft, or excluded in a final policy. This contradicts the previous sentence about disallowing incivility and insults. Users should have the right to remove derogatory comments from RFC or other discussions. Amanda (talk) 17:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That was added back as it was removed without the consent of the person that wrote it, removal can be discussed here or on the specific talkpage. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 17:59, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * As I already said on the talkpage, removing someone else's comments from an RfC is the ultimate incivility. I'm repeating this here for emphasis. --Robkelk (talk) 01:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Bumping this as there is no recent activity. Please feel free to contribute to the policy! Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:53, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

No personal attacks
Please share your thoughts on my draft NPA policy for Miraheze. Amanda (talk) 20:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Far too over-reaching - applying that to "all Miraheze" would mean that some stranger could remove text from a wiki other than Meta if that stranger found the text offensive, or if it was determined that the earlier wiki editor referred to himself with the wrong pronoun, no matter what that wiki's individual Terms of Use and that wiki's Content Policy might be. Also, it doesn't guarantee that disagreements of opinion will not qualify as personal attacks simply because they are disagreements of opinion. --Robkelk (talk) 01:09, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Can't login
Just bringing to your attention not being able to login on Meta (and, therefore, no logged in access to own website). Probably just a temporary and/or minor issue but this is the message I get after I have entered my login credentials:
 * (Cannot access the database: Cannot access the database: Unknown database 'zgradetenniswiki' (81.4.127.157)) – 86.160.46.10 22:46, 19 April 2017 (UTC) (Borderman)
 * ✅ this was caused by miscommunication in that I was told the database was okay to drop so I presumed it had been deleted correctly several months ago. John (talk) 22:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Working again.  Borderman   talk 23:15, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Merge Histories of Images
Hi, I wanted to upload an improved version of File:Miraheze admin.png, however for a strange reason I did not want to save the file and I had to upload a new one. I request that the histories of the 2 files be merged to preserve the authorship of the same ones. Thanks. —<font color="#1406D0">Alvaro Molina (<font color="#137500">✉  - <font color="#137500">✔ ) 07:50, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The original file has been updated, I think you just had to wait. I deleted the newer one as it was identical. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91525"> contribs  ) 07:58, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

CheckUser group
Would it be possible to chang the  group display name to read  ? This is the form that is used on Wikimedia globally and it looks better IMHO to not have the space. This would require:


 * Changing MediaWiki:group-checkuser to "CheckUsers" or "Checkusers"
 * Changing MediaWiki:group-checkuser-member to "checkuser"
 * Changing MediaWiki:grouppage-checkuser to "CheckUser" or "Checkuser"

-- Amanda   (talk)  22:13, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * This should be done in MirahezeMagic, I have already requested the change in GitHub . What of the page I think should be discussed before being renamed. —<font color="#1406D0">Alvaro Molina (<font color="#137500">✉  - <font color="#137500">✔ ) 23:00, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I forgot that the extensions are hosted on Wikimedia, so the request was denied. A request will have to be made in translatewiki.net since only the administrators of that site can edit the original versions in English of the MediaWiki system messages. I'll open a thread on the support page to do the modification, but that can take weeks because almost nobody cares about that page there. For now I think you can close this since the administrators can not do anything in this case. —<font color="#1406D0">Alvaro Molina (<font color="#137500">✉  - <font color="#137500">✔ ) 05:32, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No, you can edit the MediaWiki pages linked above to change the group name only on Miraheze Meta Wiki. -- Amanda   (talk)  11:17, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You can, but I see no valid reason to do so personally. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91525"> contribs  ) 15:46, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Addition of Interwikis in Special:Interwiki
Hi, I would like to know if it is possible for an administrator to add the following link in the "Interwiki prefixes" section of Special:Interwiki:


 * Prefix: "test" or "testwiki" / URL: https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/$1

And add the following links in the "Interlanguage prefixes" section:


 * Prefix: "es" / URL: https://es.publictestwiki.com/wiki/$1

This would allow generating the section "In other languages" in both wikis and would allow the users of the primary wiki to know that there is a Spanish version, besides it would facilitate the theme of the links between both wikis. I do not know if this is possible, but from my point of view I do not see it as controversial. I hope you consider yourself. Thanks. —<font color="#1406D0">Alvaro Molina (<font color="#137500">✉  - <font color="#137500">✔ ) 13:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I could add testwiki, but for the Spanish PublicTestWiki I'd rather at esttest, estest or pruebawiki rather than jsut "es", if that's okay with you. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91525"> contribs  ) 14:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It could be, but I fear that the original goal I had raised would not result. Do the same as you suggest (with "pruebawiki") to see if it works. —<font color="#1406D0">Alvaro Molina (<font color="#137500">✉  - <font color="#137500">✔ ) 14:24, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Translate available languages top or bottom
The box that shows what translated languages of a page are available is either placed on the bottom of a page (for example Miraheze or Help center) or the top (CheckUser). For consistency reasons I think we need to decide whether it goes on the top for all pages or on the bottom for all pages, or else users will be confused. Please leave your comments and opinions below. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#d00404"> contribs  ) 07:57, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Comments
I think it looks better at the bottom of the page, but that is purely based on aesthetics rather than function. However, on long pages it's not always apparent there's other languages available unless you scroll all the way down. With that in mind it might be better at the top. Depends what is more important: aesthetics over function or the other way round. Borderman  talk 10:50, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I think that some users aren't necessarily aware that we have several languages, so maybe having it on the top would be a better idea. Though I will point out that on the WMF Wikimedia, they have it on the bottom for their Main page, and at the top for other pages. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#d00404"> contribs  ) 18:49, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Having had a look at Wikimedia Meta's main page and several random pages afterwards I'm inclined to agree with you. Keeping the languages at the top certainly makes it obvious that some pages have more than one language. I'm not particularly keen on the language boxes that have 30 or 40+ languages in them as the box becomes quite large and somewhat of a distraction from the article. But, that's just me and I guess function over aesthetics, in this particular case, is probably more important. Borderman   talk 20:23, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that when there's 25-30 languages+ it already becomes something that we don't want on a Main Page. I just want there to be some obvious indication that we have multiple languages, even though it will not look as nice, even a "Scroll to the bottom to change language" would be a more effective than now, in my opinion. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#d00404"> contribs  ) 06:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

My two cents are that I like how it is at Wikimedia. Bottom of main page and top of all other pages. If it really hurts the ascethics that much then we can put it on the bottom of every page, but then I'd like some indication it's there. Maybe a small box in the top right corner listing subpages or a box saying scroll down for translated pages. Kind of like the position and size of RightTOC -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 11:22, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I like NDKilla's idea. We can have small box that says "This page is translated! Scroll down.", and that wouldn't ruin the aesthetics of the page. We also need to find a suitable place on the Main page (as that is my main concern for people not knowing there are multiple languages). Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#d00404"> contribs  ) 11:29, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * That would work and it catches the eye. What about having it clickable instead of scrolling down. I know it's not a major thing to scroll but on long pages it might be better to have a link to the bottom of the page. Maybe word it similar to Reception's suggestion: "This page has been translated! Click here to see all available languages." or words to that effect. Borderman   talk 12:56, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

No MP3s?
MP3 is not a valid file type at Special:Upload? Is this farm-wide or can I enable it on TheMirror? 05:20 12-Oct-2017
 * Hi, while that can be done, we ask that you please direct all feature requests to phabricator. The page is for contacting local metawiki admins. MacFan4000 (talk) 11:42, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry; will do.  15:15 12-Oct-2017

About Sidebar
On Sidebar, About Miraheze is linked on help page. Is there not any page which describing about Miraheze? If it is, Please, Add help and about Miraheze page link on sidebar "differently". And if not, Please, Create it to know Miraheze perfectly. I think, It will be more better.

আ হ ম সাকিব TALK   CONTRIBUTION  07:59, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * "About Miraheze" redirects to "Help center". Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 16:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Olivebuilder
User "Olivebuilder" seems to be here solely to plant advertisements and not to advance the goals of the wiki farm. 04:34 13-Oct-2017
 * Thanks for spotting that. I have blocked the user. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 13:36, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Update the list of administrators of Meta
I recently tried to get some changes done on meta and I received this response:

It happens that some sysadmins are also Meta administrators (like myself), in that case they would be acting in their capacity as a Meta administrator and not a sysadmin. Reception123 (talk) (C) 15:35, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Please update this page:

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators

to make that more clear.

Can you point me to the page that describes how someone becomes a meta administrator and how you challenge their decisions?

Rsterbal (talk) 11:09, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * There's no formal policy on administrators on meta. Users can gain permissions at Requests for permissions. Challenging decisions is done the same way as everything else - discussing. Administrators have no rule of law, their comments are opinions and carry the same weight as everyone elses unless they're enforcing one of the relatively few policies that exist on Meta. John (talk) 11:22, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * In addition, I think that we should discuss having some guidelines for what pages should exist on Meta, so that we stay consistent. This should be discussed by the users. To clarify again, my comments about the page were just my opinion as a user, not as an administrator, and they were just suggestions. I make these suggestions, because as I said above I'm trying to keep pages on Meta consistent with each other, and their style. If we have different pages set up differently and named differently, it can become confusing for users to find them. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 05:26, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Rewritten FAQs
I had wanted FAQ to reference the new Gazetteer of wikis (inspired by Community noticeboard) but FAQ is protected against editing. I took a copy, at User:Spike the Dog/FAQ, fleshed out some sections, eliminated duplication, and provided new material, such as: Would you please evaluate these edits and, if suitable, install this version? 11:36 19-Oct-2017
 * What a wiki is
 * Overview of CSS/JS
 * How MediaWiki extensions work.


 * I've gone ahead and done a major update to FAQ, largely using your work. You could probably diff your FAQ and the current FAQ to see that I've made a couple of small edits. Mostly just replacing a little bit of odd wording, the thing about nobody knowing how to pronounce Miraheze (I also changed that to a permlink), and I replaced several instances of Stewards with sysadmin since they're different. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:49, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much! It might look better to use so that the Intro is what the reader sees first, rather than the entire Table of Contents. And to be really nitpicky, the Main Page does nothing hopefully. You may delete the version in my userspace if you like. 16:06 19-Oct-2017
 * I have made a few minor edits to the FAQ. I think it's great that we now have a more detailed version of the FAQ. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 16:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Okay, but if dismissable site notices are only available globally, then you want to delete the paragraph after that one too. Also, you changed "More complicated changes" to "Other changes not listed" (for changes that require a request). But they are listed, further on down the page. My strategy was to have a section of the things a wiki owner could do himself, followed by the things that have to be done for him. That we hope, for the future, to move items from the second group into the first won't be relevant to the reader of this page. 16:50 19-Oct-2017
 * Thanks for noticing. I have modified both. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 16:17, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Rename Part-up wiki
Hi, can you rename wiki: https://partup.miraheze.org to https://r2.miraheze.org. I already discussed this with Laurens Waling. He agreed. Regards, Tim, Timboliu999 (talk) 19:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you make this request on phabricator? This noticeboard is for matters involving metawiki only (and your request should be tracked properly anyway). -- Void  Whispers 20:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Void, I have created a task. See https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T2344. Regards, Tim, Timboliu999 (talk) 05:27, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit Abuse
Dear Admins,

I think that next to the centralauth-lock permission in the table the explanation says "This allows the staff member to lock accounts when they need to be locked for other official reasons, such as global bans, abuse, or legal concerns. It also allow the staff member to unlock accounts, either because the lock was done in error or because the concern has been alleviated. This right is exercised only from Meta, for better logging and transparency." It should say "This allows the staff member to lock accounts when they need to be locked for official reasons, such as global bans, abuse, or legal concerns. It also allow the staff member to unlock accounts, either because the lock was done in error or because the concern has been alleviated. This right is exercised only from Meta, for better logging and transparency." . The difference between the 2 statements is the deletion of the word other after the first sentence. I therefore suggest that sysops be more careful when importing pages. Also I think the page should be moved to  and that MediaWiki:Grouppage-abuse be updated to reflect the new page.

Sincerely

-Sau226 (talk) 05:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've adjusted the wording. I'm rather of the opinion of moving the page to the mainspace, considering that it is a global toolset. -- Void  Whispers 00:01, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia interwiki
My Phabricator task 2384 has resulted in discussion about process but no decision. 's opinion was that it should be brought up here, so I am doing so. My Phabricator request stated:


 * In 2013, Uncyclopedia (uncyclopedia.wikia.com) forked into two projects. The Fork (en.uncyclopedia.co) started a campaign to induce as many wikis as possible to point to it rather than the original site on the basis that "the community has moved" and the original site was "unused and abandoned." Requestor remained on the original site, became an Admin just after the split and is now a bureaucrat on sabbatical. My opinion is that, in the intervening years, the Wikia site has valued the reader while the Fork site has been operated for the sake of the authors. In the cases where the content is not identical, the Wikia site is better maintained and has more mature and entertaining content. Your call; but at the least, the arguments given for the original switch are not truth but one side's spin.

Reception123 granted the request for my own TheMirror wiki but the global issue is unresolved and the Phabricator task remains open. 12:08 17-Nov-2017
 * This clearly needs discussion between the community so that it can be decided which one of the sites is preferred to be linked in the interwiki, and if we perhaps want to have two links (one for the Wikia wiki, one for the other). Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 08:06, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The Wikia version can already be accessed at wikia:c:uncyclopedia, just like every other Wikia wiki can be accessed with wikia:c:SUBDOMAIN-NAME. Meanwhile, the only iw link for Uncyclopedia.co is . 12:32, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Remove uncyclopedia, leave uncyclopedia blank, and add two variants for .co and .wikia.com. I don't think we're in position to make a decision which one is "authentic". &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  15:45, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Do we really need to make a(n another) interwiki prefix for uncyclopedia.wikia.com? Just like every other Wikia wiki, it can already be accessed with wikia:c:uncyclopedia. Besides, the people over at Interwiki map once did what you suggested (which is to delete uncyclopedia: because now they're on .wikia.com), but then the editors from the true Uncyclopedia asked Wikimedia Meta to link it to the fork and they agreed. 02:35, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You know what, now I support 's proposal (at least farmwide). Add uncyclopediaco: and uncycco: for  and uncyclopediawikia: and wikiauncyc: for  . What does everyone think? ?  11:36, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * What I think is that reaching a decision here is like pulling hen's teeth. The farm-wide proposal is fine with me; I have the interwiki I wanted on my own wiki.   21:17 10-Feb-2018

Authentication Required popup when logging in
When logging in on miraheze, I get an 'authentication Required' popup (firefox) saying that https://wiki.lspdfr.de is requesting my username and password, and a warning that those will not be sent tot the website I am visiting (miraheze). Strange thing.

It will keep me logged in on miraheze if I cancel the popup.
 * Hmm I got that on miraheze the other day. you are the owner of said wiki, do you know anything about this? MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 21:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This is very strange. I invite you to file a task on Phabricator about this (maybe also provide a screenshot) so that we can investigate this better. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 05:56, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I, too, get exactly the same thing on Safari whether I login on Miraheze and my own wikis. Seems pointless as it doesn't serve any purpose. It only started appearing the other day after the site went really sluggish and then went down for a short while. After that I started getting this annoying popup. 11:09, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Interwiki link for Wikisource needs updating
I noticed the other day that when using the interwiki for Wikisource it didn't link correctly. I checked Special:Interwiki and it is missing the "en" prefix. It currently looks like this  instead of like this. The interwiki link I use in a reference template doesn't link to the appropriate Wikisource pages because of the missing "en" prefix. Instead it links to pages on Wikisource that don't exist. This is a problem when trying to reference material properly. Is it possible to get this updated so that the interwiki links point to the correct location? Thanks. 11:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I this change only if  is created. You see,   is the old and original multilingual Wikisource, and is linked to as  on Wikimedia wikis. Just like your proposal, Wikimedia currently has  linked to  .  11:31, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. Created oldwikisource, and changed wikisource to the "en" version. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 13:59, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Interwiki link for Miraheze Template Wiki
mtw for Miraheze Template Wiki please. So that for e.g. other wiki can use. Then users can collaborate on templates instead of every wiki having to re-invent the wheel for themselves.
 * I like the idea of having one wiki where users can get templates from. Though, I would like to see what other members of the community think as well. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 20:13, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Should we have another vote, or should we just comment? I think that having a template wiki is a good idea. CoolieCoolster (talk) 20:22, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not my wiki, I'm just one of the collaborators. I'd really like to see the community working together on this wiki. I strongly support the idea. It's something that should have happened before now but MW are too tied up in their own bureaucracy to be able to implement it. Users will still be able to have unique templates on their own wikis. --Rob Kam (talk) 22:14, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I think having a wiki just for templates is a great idea, especially if those templates were categorised for easier identification and navigation (instead of just listed on the special page). If a user has created his or her own set of templates that he or she thinks would be useful for others, can they export/import themselves to template wiki or do templates have to go through some sort vetting process first to check for suitability?  23:10, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Apparently it's a free-for-all, just put the templates up and see what happens. Perhaps other people will edit them. --Rob Kam (talk) 14:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I am happy to assign permissions to anyone that wants them. You can consider it as a community owned wiki. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 21:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Done. Interwiki is Meta administrator's discretionary area, for now. Added as, so it is easier to understand than "mtw". And people: Discussion about templatewiki on elsewhere (ideally on templatewiki or on Community Noticeboard) please. &mdash;  <tt>revi</tt>  08:00, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For discussion about templatewiki, use template wiki's community portal, linked in the sidebar there. --Rob Kam (talk) 10:37, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Please note the template edit on that wiki might have BIG impact on other wikis - please make sure your wiki get proper attention and if vandals are not managed we might have to disable the interwiki. &mdash; <tt>revi</tt>  10:50, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The possibility of disastrous changes, and of malicious changes, are two good reasons for wiki owners to pull over a copy rather than just use what happens to be at  right now.  Unfortunately, the interwiki link encourages wiki owners to "simply" use the copy at   and consider the problem solved for good.  I don't know of a Special:WhatLinksHere that searches all other wikis, so there is no way to know, when improving a template there, who will be affected.   12:25 6-Feb-2018
 * Anyone can monitor Recent changes on template wiki and fix any damage. --Rob Kam (talk) 13:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)