User talk:Void

Hi Void
We invite you for discussion about 2016 Community survey/Steward. Please leave your comments.

Cheers TriX (talk) 13:16, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Requests for adoption/boilerplate

 * Hi, if you go on Requests for adoption you can see that if you put "yes" or "no" as an option it still says "No answer given", that is what I was trying to fix. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 07:16, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it looked like it should have worked. I'll try something else when I get the chance. -- Void  Whispers 15:56, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Request features on a wiki

 * I want to install MediaWiki:Edittools on Worldpedia ( https://worldpedia.miraheze.org/ )--Msnhinet8 (talk) 02:45, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 02:45, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Can my wiki be created?
Please? PokestarFan (talk) 22:03, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Are you a steward?
Are you a steward? Rsterbal (talk) 23:30, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No? If you are referring to this, I removed it because I felt it added nothing to the discussion, as a summary of all viewpoints should include the statements made by users as they support/oppose. If you feel differently, feel free to restore it, although keeping it updated is up to you and whoever else wants to. -- Void  Whispers 23:37, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Meta sysop
Hi, as you're already helping out a lot here, I'd like to propose you as Meta sysop on Requests for permissions as your actions would be more appropriate as a Meta sysop than CVT. If you're interested either tell me or make the request yourself :) Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 06:34, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations on your successful steward request, and on being the first non-sysadmin steward, and on managing to acquire the 20 votes necessary! I'm sure that as a steward you will continue doing great work here, and that the extra tools will help you to continue combating vandalism (and taking care of any other requests). Good luck!

Issue with the efn template
Hello. I've asked for help with this on the stewards' noticeboard, and was pointed towards you for help with this. If this is an issue outside of your scope, sorry for bothering you. Also, if you don't mind, could you point me to a sysadmin who could help me with this, if that scenario is the case?

Copied from the noticeboard:

I've been using the efn template on my wiki but I struggle with it. Instead of outputting lowercase letters from the Latin/Roman script, it gives out the type of letter followed by a number (example here). Is this something a steward can help with or will I have to fill a feature/extension request? If its the second, what do I have to request specifically? Waffitti (talk) 16:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey there, sorry for the late response. I first started looking into it as soon as you had posted about it, and I figured out that it has something to do with the way that the ref parser tag works. Unfortunately, I haven't had much time recently to learn the specifics on how it is supposed to do what you want it to do. However, I do believe I figured it out. If you import the pages located here it is likely that it will function properly. -- Void  Whispers 02:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello. Sorry for the pushiness, this had long been an issue with my wiki I wanted to solve but had no idea how to. Importing those pages did fix it, I can't thank you enough for helping me with this. If you do figure out the specifics behind it, I'd love to understand them, but don't feel pressured to learn them if you don't have time. Waffitti (talk) 19:04, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Last Week in the Mirror
Thanks for creating the wiki that I requested! But I find that, to re-create the presentation I had used elsewhere, my wiki needs the DPL and OPTION/CHOOSE extensions. I clicked on the link and got daunting messages that, before I could proceed, hopefully to discover whether these extensions are even available, I had to disclose my real name and email address to a third party. This is not necessarily a deal-breaker, except that it came up in the name of OAuth, which I had read required me to sign up with Google and let random people plant software in my cellphone, and these are deal-breakers. Are you able to just switch on these features at TheMirror? I've elected to deal with you folks; why does it seem that non-routine requests have to go through someone else? Spike the Dog (talk) 18:17, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * A list of extensions we have available are listed here. Since my only guess for DPL is DynamicPageList, and I have no idea what OPTION/CHOOSE would be, might I suggest selecting what you know you need from there? If you cannot find an extension you need on that list, they can be reviewed and added. Please note that in order to look into an extension, we will need to know it's exact name, and preferably have a link to any available documentation. Also, if you were referring to signing up on phabricator (provided that you were at phabricator.miraheze.org), it's not actually a third party - it's hosted by us as well (the ticketed system is easier to manage and keep track of than a page on this wiki). However, if you are unwilling to sign up, I am willing to relay any request you make here through. -- Void  Whispers 18:38, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for calming me down! I am now registered in Phabricator. (It did not insist on disclosure of my real name, so the pop-up window should stop saying that Phabricator will need to know it.) (In fact, when I eventually pay you for this access, I am very willing to mail a personal check, and very unwilling to disclose anything to PayPal.)

It appears that what I need is to install  and   at TheMirror.miraheze.org (PS--and install myself as a bureaucrat), and although Phabricator appears to be marvelously structured, I don't see anything about configuring a wiki. So I am now confused at a higher level.

Here is a separate question. At Uncyclopedia, when uploading photos, one option was to assert "fair use for parody." I see that Miraheze is more diligent about protecting copyrights, and agree that, if you got a DMCA request, you would probably delete a photo rather than waste time debating whether its use was permitted. I have stolen photos with impunity, not to benefit from the photography but to use thumbnails as a springboard for original comedy; is that disapproved here? Spike the Dog (talk) 20:35, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * For future reference, if you click the star at the top right, you should see an option for "Request features", which will take you to this form. I've requested that the extensions be enabled without the need for opening a task though (but in the future, similar requests should be directed there). No current comment on images and copyrights. -- Void  Whispers 20:57, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Installation/opping worked. Spike the Dog (talk) 21:46, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Categories
One more question from TheMirror.miraheze.org: The new archive page "Donald Trump" calls for itself to be added to the new category "News archive" but this hasn't happened, even overnight. In addition, using Special:Categories, I see artifacts pertaining to a page I brought over from the old website but have since deleted. Is there a background process that has stalled? Sp&#305;ke (talk) 13:00 12-Sep-2017
 * Yeah, jobqueue stopped running again. -- Void  Whispers 19:17, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Spike the Dog
Thanks for the promotion to autopatrolled. I don't need patroller as well, but it is surprising to see the ! indicating an unpatrolled edit, given that I can't do anything about it. 21:06 15-Sep-2017 Please ignore that; I simply hadn't brought over my familiar toolkit. 03:19 16-Sep-2017

Please add and change MediaWiki language
Hi. There are things that need to be changed for Turkish language. If you help me, I'm happy. Thank you.

About Miraheze

 * MediaWiki:Miraheze-helpcenter/tr
 * Change Turkish language : Miraheze hakkında

Categories

 * MediaWiki:Miraheze-categories/tr
 * Change Turkish language : Kategoriler

Donate

 * MediaWiki:Miraheze-donate/tr
 * Change Turkish language : Bağış

Request a wiki

 * MediaWiki:Miraheze-requestwiki/tr
 * Change Turkish language : Bir viki isteyin

Request features on a wiki

 * MediaWiki:Miraheze-requestfeatures/tr
 * Change Turkish language : Bir viki için özellik isteyin

Thanks. --Hersitede (talk) 18:42, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Void  Whispers 20:49, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Issue with col templates
I've been wanting to use "col" templates in my wiki, but they seem to break entire pages (example here. Is there anything I can add to my wiki to stop this issue or would I have to fill a feature/extension request? Waffitti (talk) 06:26, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Try changing Col-end to be  |}   . It looks like Col-end has the same content as Col-2. --  Void  Whispers 20:16, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that. Wish I had an answer as to why that happened, but the editor who handled that has no memory of the event. Waffitti (talk) 00:18, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Vandal arrives
I noticed that "Willy on Wheels" has created a user name here and asked to create a wiki. I permabanned him from Wikia Uncyclopedia for installing himself as a site-wide personal meme and general vandalism. This might not disqualify him here, but at the least, I will go out on a limb and suggest that the wiki he requested will have nothing to do with automobiles. 19:19 1-Nov-2017
 * I'm waiting to see what the account does first. I've kept my eye on them since they turned up. -- Void  Whispers 20:04, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Ban appeal
Hi,

Please provide a staff opinion on my ban appeal. Thank you. Amanda123 (talk) 00:34, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Images via CSS
On the rfobasic wiki, why does the Common.css file fail to provide a background image (blue texture) for DIV.sidebar (as specified in {Start sidebar}? Example in this page.  The fallback blue pastel background is present but the blue texture fails.  Am I specifying the filename correctly in Common.css?  Is it not allowed to specify a .GIF?  This is a frill, but I'd like to get it right if Miraheze supports it.   02:35 9-Nov-2017
 * It looks like it's working properly to me, have you tried bypassing your browser's cache? -- Void  Whispers 20:24, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Rats! Yes, I have flushed the cache several times. Have you merely used the feature, or did you look at my page and see the textured background? It is failing for me right now, though the Object Inspector confirms that the page is calling for the texture and the page it is calling for is present at static.miraheze.org. Thanks for investigating. 20:45 9-Nov-2017
 * The easiest way to answer is to show you what I see. -- Void  Whispers 20:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Cancel red alert! Decided I ought to try this with a modern browser (Fennec on Android) and it's all right there. Sorry for the wasted time! 21:02 9-Nov-2017 Double the apologies, as it works fine even on Firefox 10 if I simply switch on Images. "Penny-wise, pound-foolish." 03:22 10-Nov-2017

Hey
Nice to see you here. Artix Kreiger (talk) 20:44, 15 November 2017 (UTC) I"ve been browsing wikis recently and I discovered Miraheze so I thought I pop by and say hi. Artix Kreiger (talk) 20:44, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Ban appeal revert
Hi, please don’t remove support votes from my ban appeal just because you believe that they were made by a troll. Any and all votes count. Amanda123 (talk) 01:18, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * So you tellin me that someone asking you for a panties shot is ok? Sure. Refactoring comments because you disagree with them? Sure. Taking only the parts of comments you agree with? Sure. Careful. -- Void  Whispers 01:42, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I never said that the comments themselves were okay. For the record, they are not. However, the support vote itself still counts as a valid vote, especially when the results are very close like they are here. Additionally, I didn’t refactor comments just because I didn’t like them — I removed a comment that was making a blatantly false statement about me. I have never operated porn spambots or done anything remotely like that, which is what the user was claiming. Amanda123 (talk) 01:53, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Just to note, as per Special:Diff/37075, a rationale should be provided for a vote. The user did not provide any rationale pertaining to the actual subject that is being discussed, so it would not have much weight anyway. I also disagree with trolls/abusers being able to keep their votes when their only purpose is clearly to disrupt. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 06:26, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello!
Thanks for the welcome Void. I just have a question for you. Are all wiki's public here? I was hoping to make mine private, with the ability for users to only be able to edit their own pages. Is that possible here?

Thank you in advance. NWNJade
 * No, a wiki can be prívate if you would like it to be. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 23:10, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * In fact, the wiki you requested is private, so only you (and users you add to the member group) should be able to read any more than the main page. If you want it to be more visible, but with editing restrictions instead of read restrictions, you can make a request on Phabricator. -- Void  Whispers 23:38, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

I only want the wiki visible by people I add, and editable only by people I give permissions to. Does that make sense? For example, I want users only to be able to edit their personal pages, and not other people's.

Questions about Void-bot
Dear Void,

I noticed you have a bot. I have 2 questions about the bot:
 * 1) Is it a modified version of wm-bot?
 * 2) Is the source code (including your modifications if applicable) open source?

Thank you for answering my questions in advance

--Sau226 (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

It is not a modified version of wm-Bot as wm-Bot is written in a different programming language entirely (c#) whereas void-Bot is written in JavaScript and Python. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 13:35, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * And to answer the second question, no the bot is not open-source at this time. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 14:50, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Extension of rights
Dear Void,

Could you please review my rights and take appropriate action? My rights will expire soon. While I have not used my local account much my bot has made many page imports and attempted to fix many of the issues found in content. Therefore I would request that you either extend the rights for a reasonable amount of time for all accounts, let them expire or process the adoption fully.

I await your response

--Sau226 (talk) 13:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Added permanent 'crat and sysop to your main account. If you need to extend the rights on your bot, you should be able to do so on your own now. Cheers -- Void  Whispers 16:49, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Phabricator
Dear Void,

I requested a feature on Phabricator. Please view it. --Vlad26t (talk) 18:39, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Help with citations
For my wiki, I pretend to implement a quoting system like the one used here, linkable in pages like this example. I've managed https://hirapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Magazines/'90s to get the text blocks in the wiki], but all text contained within comes off as centrered instead of to the left, and there seems to be lacking parts for the blocks to be cited within articles.

Besides that, there is an issue with the "Reflist" template. On some pages, its been set up to output 2 columns of text. However, when the segment that makes it so is removed, it keeps outputting 2 columns instead of the expected single column, as seen here. What could be causing this? Waffitti (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like there is an  missing somewhere. I'd suggest putting it in the same space as   (in Template:Reference). The reflist seems to be designed by the software in order to have "smart" behavior. For example, on my screen, the page you linked to that should have two columns has three (until I zoom in, and it becomes two). It would seem that not specifying a number of columns defaults the software to deciding the number of columns based off the size of the display. --  Void  Whispers 21:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Help with converting infobox templates from wikia
Hello, I need help with converting the infobox templates that I used for my wiki on wikia to be compatible with miraheze. For example, how would the template for the infobox on this page look?: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ambush_on_Suurja

I need to be able to have certain rows divided into two columns as shown in the example. Back when my wiki was on wikia, I used this source code for one of the infobox templates, which is going to be very similar to the code used for the example I linked:

Previous Concurrent Next Details Beginning End Setting Outcome  Combatants  Commanders  Forces Civilian casualties

You can also view the exact code for the template used in the linked example here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Template%3ABattle

Please help me understand what changes I need to make, and then I'll be able to update all the other infobox templates on my wiki as well and finally have it up and running on Miraheze. --^Vitiate^ (talk) 18:24, 10 March 2018 (UTC)