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A community Developers wiki

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * The community, after a very long wait for a closure (sorry), supports the continued operation of devwiki as a community hub for CSS+JS. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  20:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

I have a proposition for the Miraheze community. For a while now I have been debating whether or not to create a developers wiki for Miraheze. Unlike the template wiki, this wiki will include CSS and JS scripts that anyone can import using, it will allow anyone who wants it to use scripts built by the community in their own wikis and/or in their own personal global or local JavaScript or CSS files. After consulting with on Discord, I decided to get the communities feedback and/or support on this idea, therefore what does the Miraheze community think of this idea? 22:53, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Yeah, though I don't think it's required to have a community discussion in this case, since it's going to be a community wiki for shared CSS and JavaScript files, among other things potentially, I thought it would be a good practice to have the discussion, especially if it proposes to use the name "Miraheze." Plus, I think it would be helpful for the community to (a) define the initial scope and purpose and (b) establish the founding bureaucrats for the wiki. From there, the local community can help to establish its local policies and further refine its purpose. In general terms, I support this as a community wiki as I think it is sufficiently different than the Template and Miraheze Bots + Tools wikis. I also think it could be useful at reducing the page load times of community-imported and -maintained user scripts, as opposed to always loading them from English Wikipedia and other wikis. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, some of that is part of my initial thoughts for the reasoning of the wiki. As for using the name Miraheze in it, I think it should be called Miraheze Developers Wiki or something similar. As for bureaucrats of the wiki, any candidate recommendations? And I think a community discussion for this is a good idea. It gives the community a way to give input, and their own unique ideas in it as well. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * As proposer I support this, but also because I know JS and CSS pretty well, and would love to have a wiki like this for the Miraheze community. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * This is a great idea for a new wiki. I think that by doing this, lots of new coding things could be enabled, including possibly global modules and gadgets. Great suggestion. I also have no concerns for this proposal. --Furricane (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, I do believe that a wiki like this could be greatly beneficial in the long run, or at least I hope it can be. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * I support this idea because not everyone can do custom CSS and (or) custom JS. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea for having a central place to import JS and CSS. K599 (talk) 20:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * per my comments above. Dmehus (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Good. Waldo (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * would be a nice place to ask questions with in that area Bayugoon (talk) 19:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Potential rename and/or expanded scope of Dev Wiki
asked me a few days, or perhaps a week, ago if I had posted in this discussion thread about the potential renaming and expanded scope for Dev Wiki yet. Other tasks took priority, but seeing as this thread was due to be archived in the next day or so, I wanted to get this done. So, I'm going to ping those that participated above and those who participated in the discussion on potential name ideas/expanded scope on Discord.

So, the question is...given that the  subdomain implies broader usage by and for developers beyond just CSS and JavaScript scripts,  and I (did I forget anyone, ?) basically toyed around with a number of potential new names and subdomains, the top three of which is identified below:


 * 1) Retain   and expand the scope, or allow the community, via a future community noticeboard discussion to expand the scope at some point in the future;
 * 2) Rename subdomain to , which would be roughly in line with the current purpose and scope, but open to possibilities later (again, the community would retain the right modify the scope via a community noticeboard discussion); or,
 * 3) Rename subdomain to , with a narrow scope; limits us in the future, but entirely accurate; it's not too bad, as we could easily create a separate dev later, though we should reserve that subdomain in the blacklist)

Since didn't participate in the Discord discussion and since this doesn't require any advanced rights to close, I nominate him to assess the consensus and close this discussion in a week or two. --Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of RhinosF1 as closer
, please indicate if you would be willing to close this discussion after 1-2 weeks (depending on the weather-related impacts to U.S. eastern seaboard residents).

Additionally, can I get a seconder to second this nomination? (Thought we could probably safely skip a full vote on nominating an uninvolved closer.)


 * Accepted:  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominated closer)
 * Moved: Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominator)
 * Seconded: 02:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 13:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks, plus the duration set by the hidden wikicomment at the end of this thread. Dmehus (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Voting and Vote Tabulation Instructions
You are encouraged to express first and second choices in your !vote. Please do so by indicating, in your !vote for each proposal, whether it is your first or second choice. If no proposal achieves more than 50% of the valid !votes cast, the proposal with the least number of first choice !votes will be dropped, and those users' second choices will then be allocated accordingly, and the results retabulated in a second count.

Support

 * 1)   02:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 2)  as first choice, since the community remains overall authority over this wiki in terms of its   removal (as may be required) and in terms of redefining, or broadening, its scope. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  I think there is no need to rename. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  Looks nice, and is easy to understand. K599 (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I like this idea as well, but it feels like it has other non-computer science-related use cases (i.e., for an archival- or museum-type wiki). Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I also liked 's idea, as it is the most specific and clearly defines this wiki's current purpose, but, at the same time, it really does restrict a future broadening of this wiki's scope to include a broader array of wiki developer resources, for which the community retains the absolute authority to redefine this wiki's purpose via community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcomer UserRight Vote
After a set amount of welcomes, there should be an extension called Mass Welcome, where in the user list, they can select how many people to welcome, but the extension can only be accessed by Welcomer and higher.

Support

 * As the person who created the vote, with some good points, I believe this should be added. Wiki JS  18:09, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Additional Comments

 * WikiJS I have no idea what you are proposing here. Are you proposing for a new extension to be developed and installed, or are you proposing for an existing extension be enabled on Meta or on all Miraheze wikis be default? Secondarily, what is your aim here? This seems like more of a question or an idea, rather than a formal proposal, which would be best incubated as a subpage of your userspace. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 19:12, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm proposing for a new extension to be developed and installed for Meta. And yeah, I see what you're saying, I made the vote in a rush, even though it was more of an idea. Wiki JS  00:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * WikiJS Yeah, this sort of thing doesn't really need a discussion, at least not the development of an extension; for enabling mass welcoming system user extension on this wiki, yeah, that part would need a discussion to be enabled. However, without an extension developed, this is a bit like put the cart before the (proverbial) horse. I'd recommend instead reaching out to Universal Omega on his user talk page and see if he could develop this extension for you. Be sure to list exactly and specifically what features your extension would require and how an existing welcoming extension, such as either of the HAWelcome or NewUserMessage extensions, would not serve your needs. You would also want to clearly specify which wiki(s) you'd want to enable it on (not counting Meta Wiki, since that'd need a separate discussion). As to potentially enabling such an extension on Meta Wiki, my personal view is this isn't really needed and wouldn't be helpful, principally because accounts are often auto-created on Meta just like they're auto-created on Loginwiki, many of which end up being spam only accounts (among other things). Plus, it's also a bit "spammy," if I'm being honest. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This should be made following Tech:Projects. 12:37, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Interwiki
We made a consensus about the interwiki at meta unitedwiki:総合談論室#Unitedwikiの総合方針について#0.議論の前に. Wikilexicon(wl), WikiDemocracy(wd),Worldtrainwiki(wt) and　MilitaryWiki(mw), is under the banner of “meta unitedwiki”(meta united), so we want to interwiki between these six sites including “meta unitedwiki”.

※Exlinkwiki has been closed, so I think you can ignore this wiki. --令和少年 (talk) 06:37, 27 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, I unfortunately do not know Japanese. Could you please clarify which wikis the interwiki prefixes should be added to? Or should we add them to all four wikis (I cannot see the sixth one and am excluding Exlinkwiki as requested by you)? 13:44, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, I moved this thread here from SN per the policy. 13:46, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your help. I ain't good at English very much, so I may be impossible to comply with your requests entirely. By the way, we want to set the prefixes like following.


 * It takes time to make a diagram, so I wrote simply. (If I have a mind to make diagrams really, probably, I'm possible)
 * Wikilexicon→wl
 * WikiDemocracy→wd
 * Worldtrainwiki→wt
 * MilitaryWiki→mw
 * meta unitedwiki→meta united


 * We would like to interwiki between five wikis above.--令和少年 (talk) 15:37, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * 令和少年 That's perfect, and makes sense. We'd assume you want those on all wikis, except for the one about the current wiki where being added. One more question. Do any of them require the "forward" or "transclude" flags? And finally, "meta united" contains a space, which may or may not be possible. Would "metaunited" be alright? Dmehus (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I do not believe there can be spaces in interwiki prefixes. Is it a problem if I remove the space between meta and united in "meta united"?  15:42, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your quick response. foward and transclusion...I don't know these things in detail, but we'd like to interwiki like between wikipedia and wiktionary.--令和少年 (talk) 15:47, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Transclusion will allow you to show content from another wiki without copying it. You could see Wikipedia's policy on this to better understand what it is and how it works. And forward is helpful for robots and if you would like to be able to go to other wikis using Special:Search. I am adding the links without the flags for now. I would be happy to add them for you later. :) 16:41, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * metaunited is okay. you can overlook the space.--令和少年 (talk) 15:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This should now be ✅. Please let me know if anything needs to be fixed. Please also note that I have not added interwiki prefixes for MilitaryWiki as it has been deleted. 17:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I checked. Thank you for your quick management.--令和少年 (talk) 23:48, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ouch, We'd like to set "forward" on because of quick links, also please keep the function of "transclusion" on because we'd like to share information over wikis by intereiki links.--令和少年 (talk) 00:20, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, sorry for the delay. 05:23, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you very much. I checked them. Thank you for your quick and accurate correspondence. However...MilitaryWiki was enduring when I cheaked today...--令和少年 (talk) 05:47, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, dear. I took a mistake in a link to MilitaryWiki. military is correct. please set both "foward" and "transclusion" on... In addition, could you please set the interwiki prefix "mi".（because:mw→mediawiki）--令和少年 (talk) 05:57, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. 07:15, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

How can I add a category on the majority of pages of a site, but also with specific exceptions?
I wanted to add a category to the majority of pages on my site that are in the 'Main' namespace, but if a page already had another specific category on it, I wanted it to be skipped. I'm not sure how I can do that, I was pointed towards AutoWikiBrowser, but I'm not sure how to use it to do this. Here's where I describe this with a bit more detail: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7062 Thermometer (talk) 06:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thermometer Hi, let me see if I can help you out. I saw that they pointed you towards AutoWikiBrowser, which would definitely carry out your task, but requires download, it looks like. That link I gave you has more information about the extension. Another thing that could work (though probably not as well) is the MassEditRegex (Mass Edit using Regular Expressions) extension, which could allow you to mass add the category you want to a range of pages. The only downside to using MER is that you would have to manually type in page names, page name prefixes, category names, or backlinks, and manually separate the pages you want added to from the ones in those categories you mentioned in the Phabricator task. If you're looking for automated, though, AutoWikiBrowser (the first link) can help. I'm not an expert, so if anyone else has better advice, please contradict me. Hope this helps you! Turtle84375 (talk) 07:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You could do this in Lua, but this would require the extension CategoryToolbox which is not (yet) available on Miraheze, LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 08:14, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thaks Sirlance3000 (talk) 16:09, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Questions on adding Wiki skin extensions
I'm just wondering if I were to make a custom wiki skin specificity made for my wiki and I asked if it could be added to my wiki and my wiki only would you? I'm asking this because I am thinking about making a custom wiki skin for my wiki The Official Spirits of Argonoth Wiki, but I don't want to spend time on it without knowing if it would even be worth it. Sirlance3000 (talk) 04:39, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Sirlance3000 Thank you for the question, which I've procedurally moved from stewards' noticeboard to here where other community members can assist you with your question. Dmehus (talk) 14:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Help-me
Hello Goodnight.

I created a theme for mobile, for the skin (MinervaNeue) specifically, therefore, when placing the skin in MediaWiki: Minerva.css, or even MediaWiki: Mobile.css, the skin does not appear. What should I do to make her appear. UTC-3 Xaosk (talk) 02:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Please note I have procedurally moved this discussion from stewards' noticeboard to community noticeboard, where it is now in scope. Please note that questions regarding building your wiki should be asked at community noticeboard, whereas technical requests outside of the ability of local bureaucrats, or where local bureaucrats are not active on a given wiki, should be asked at stewards' noticeboard. Confirmed or likely bug reports or requests to run a maintenance script or perform some other back-end (i.e., database) change are asked on Phabricator. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Xaosk It's probably not working due to T6362. A workaround you could do is use Gadgets to create a CSS gadget that just contains:
 * Then add the following to your MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition (the example uses MediaWiki:Gadget-TempMobileCssFix.css as the name of the gadget):
 * K599 (talk) 00:19, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * K599 (talk) 00:19, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help with File Sharing
I want to connect https://commons.gyaanipedia.com with https://zh.gyaanipedia.com so that if I upload file to Commons then it can also appear in Zh wiki. I had tried it by adding commonsgyaanipediawiki under the Shared Upload Database Name on this link https://zh.gyaanipedia.com/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-media in the Media section but it doesn't work. Can anyone tell me that how can I do it. Thank you so much Shaunak Chakraborty (talk) 07:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Shaunak Chakraborty Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this what Interwiki is for? If so, I think you would need to put both wikis on the same Interwiki table, which I believe requires the  permission. Turtle84375 (talk) 07:46, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your suggestions but unfortunately it doesn't work as I am an Interwiki Administrator I had done it but still it is not working. Shaunak Chakraborty (talk)
 * Shaunak Chakraborty Hmm. Interesting. Sorry I couldn't help, someone else should be able to :) Turtle84375 (talk) 09:00, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Request for Reviewers user group on FAMEPedia
Hi, Miraheze Community, I humbly request that the Reviewers user group be made available in en.famepedia.org Special:ManageWiki/permissions. Thanks. Ugochimobi (talk) 08:36, 2 April 2021 (UTC) Hey! Ask the Bureaucrat of FAMEpedia to create this permission by this link https://en.famepedia.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions Shaunak Chakraborty (talk)


 * Please which extention can be used to Provide the Reviewer user group?? Ugochimobi (talk) 11:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestion Ugochimobi (talk) 08:47, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I think they were asking a question. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:57, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes please, What extension can i use to provide the Reviewers user group on the wiki?? Ugochimobi (talk) 19:25, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi The extension for which you're looking is PageTriage (also referred to as the Page Curation Toolbar on English Wikipedia) FlaggedRevs, I believe. It can be enabled in Special:ManageWiki/extensions on your wiki. Alternatively, you may prefer the simpler ApprovedRevs extension. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 20:09, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sincere thanks @ Ugochimobi (talk) 20:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi, ✅. Dmehus (talk) 20:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi @, Let me quickly notify you that I have been able to create the Reviewers Usergroup.
 * Thanks very much! Ugochimobi (talk) 08:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Login Error
Hi, Please I don't know, No user can log into FAMEPedia currently It shows an error that says ' There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form. '

Please how can this be sorted out??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugochimobi (talk • contribs) 21:53, 3 April 2021‎ (UTC)


 * Ugochimobi Thank you for posting this problem, for which I'm pleased to provide you with a solution. This is almost always related to a cookie issue, so what you have to do is this...


 * Delete all your cookies for  and any Miraheze wikis to which you attached your account that had a custom domain (i.e.   or  )
 * Open the private browsing mode of your web browser and login at Special:UserLogin, then, in the same window, go to Special:UserLogout
 * Open the regular browsing mode of your web browser, delete your cookies for  (and any custom domains again) and try and login (on Meta and on a wiki with a custom domain).
 * Let me know if that resolves it Dmehus (talk) 22:02, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Regarding the link you provided, I believe there is a typo in that domain as  does not resolve. Dmehus (talk) 22:06, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks like they meant en.famepedia.org instead. Joritochip (talk) 23:42, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Joritochip Yeah, that's what I suspected. So, yeah, Ugochimobi, make sure you, and anyone else encountering this problem, delete your cookies for your  custom domain. Dmehus (talk) 23:49, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Many thanks to @ and @. It worked perfectly. I think this should be anounced globally, In a case where any other person from any wiki on Miraheze faces this exact issue of related, So they can know the simple solution. Ugochimobi (talk) 17:08, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi ✅ at all. With regard to your suggestion, we did actually have a central notice last fall when we made the cookie configuration change, and publicized multiple announcements on IRC (in ) and on Discord. Most of the login issues have thus been resolved, but we do still see occasional issues. In fact, my instructions above are copied from my pinned message in the  channel on Discord. Perhaps, though, since we do still get rare issues of this still occurring (presumably from users needing to delete their old cookies), we could add those instructions (or some modification of them) as a FAQ question, to which we could easily refer users to? Dmehus (talk) 17:28, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly . Thanks once more. Ugochimobi (talk) 19:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

The images from Wikimedia Commons cannot be displayed in Chinese mainland
Yesterday, I found that some images couldnot be displayed normally and they were all Wikimedia Commons' images. I could only see the alt of the image. For example, now I cannot see the image File:Emblem-important.svg in the edit notice. other users in Chinese mainland in my Wiki, too.

The following is my questions and ideas:


 * 1) Is there any way to change the url of Wikimedia Commons? Use mirror sites' url to replace the url of Wikimedia Commons(upload.wikimedia.org/xxxxxx). It might be a JS, or it might be a configuration item in LocalSittings.php.
 * 2) Can Miraheze upload the image from Wikimedia Commons in common use to display them for users in Chinese mainland? Static.Miraheze.org is much more stable than Wikimedia commons in Chinese mainland!
 * 3) If the preceding both cannot realize, I have to upload all the images from Wikimedia Commons in use to my Wiki.

--开炸弹车 (talk) 23:30, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


 * 开炸弹车 Interesting&mdash;thank you for raising this issue. I'm not certain whether option #1 would be feasible. We could certainly host mirror versions of common template image icons and such on Miraheze Commons. Do you have an estimate on how many images that might be? You'd just need to make sure you provide appropriate attribution and licensing information for each image/icon you upload to Miraheze Commons. Alternatively, if you and other Chinese wikis share images, you could set up a special purpose shared image repository wiki for your group of wikis to use, and set your Special:Upload URL to point to your special purpose shared image repository wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:24, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus Talk templates, tip templates and some others, about 40. --开炸弹车 (talk) 00:50, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 开炸弹车 Okay, maybe start with about the first 10 images, adding the image summary attribution and licensing information. Once we've reviewed those images, I'll grant you  on Miraheze Commons so you can finish with the remainder. To be clear, these are just the images/icons for the templates, not the templates themselves, right? If the latter, the templates themselves can be hosted on Miraheze Template Wiki. Dmehus (talk) 01:03, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus Yes, these are only images/icons. --开炸弹车 (talk) 02:36, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Archive bot Request
Hi Community, can i get an archive bot enabled on my [en.famepedia.org wiki]? probably 'Autoarchive/config'? Ugochimobi (talk) 11:44, 5 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Meta uses Revibot which is operated by Revi. You would need to ask him if you want this exact bot. Otherwise, there should be a Pywikibot script for this. 12:30, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * There is also InternetArchiveBot --Rob Kam (talk) 13:09, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * How do i get InternetArchiveBot please?? Ugochimobi (talk) 13:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * InternetArchiveBot is a separate bot, which performs a separate function, which is to rescue cited sources (i.e., dead links) by replacing them with links from the Internet Archive. If you want that on your wiki as well, Cyberpower678 operates that, and you should be able to request it from him. Dmehus (talk) 14:11, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't care the bot, all i need is an archive bot for famepedia please @ Ugochimobi (talk) 15:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Or such as the archive bot that archives this community noticeboard, please Ugochimobi (talk) 15:05, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, so the bot that you want is Revibot, which I do see you've already asked Revi about. Dmehus (talk) 15:09, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but no reply yet! can you help out please! Ugochimobi (talk) 18:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I can't, as Revi is the operator of Revibot. He is likely busy with many things, as we're all volunteers. He should respond within a few days. Dmehus (talk) 18:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay Ugochimobi (talk) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm still very worried about not having an archive bot in my wiki 😥 Ugochimobi (talk) 15:30, 6 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I've procedurally merged your good-faith duplicate thread into this thread, to keep the discussion together. It's only been one day, though. I'm sure Revi will respond to your message at User talk:Revi as soon as he is able. Dmehus (talk) 15:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much 👍🏾 Ugochimobi (talk) 15:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Fortnite and or others.
Is their a fortnite wiki yet? And if their is could I try a different subject? Thnx. Bobkattwallace (talk) 16:12, 5 April 2021 (UTC) I found fortnite, so I'll think of something else. Bobkattwallace (talk) 16:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Bobkattwallace There does seem to be a ; however, the Vector CSS is badly broken on that wiki. I had to set my skin to MonoBook. Perhaps you could reach out to KayRandz, the local bureaucrat, at their local user talk page and volunteer to help out with that? Dmehus (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I did. Thnx. Also I put up a gaming request. Bobkattwallace (talk) 16:26, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

How do I set up Twinkle?
How would I setup Twinkle on a Wiki? Thanks, Wiki JS   talk  17:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I am not completely familiar with Twinkle, but I know that there is a documentation page that can be found here. Not all of it applies to the version that is on Miraheze, but you can probably figure it out by looking there and on the Twinkle preferences page. Joritochip (talk) 23:43, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you just want to load the script for you (or everyone) or do you want to make it available as a gadget that can be enabled from Special:Preferences?
 * The Twinkle preferences page is unrelated here. 10:17, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd like the script to load for everyone Wiki JS   talk  12:50, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Then you can simply add the following line to your wiki's MediaWiki:Common.js:
 * Note that this will load Twinkle for everyone on your wiki without following their preferences and the version of Twinkle that will be installed will be different from the version on Meta. If you want to use the Meta version, you should add the following line instead:
 * . 13:13, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Wiki JS   talk  13:40, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Wiki JS   talk  13:40, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Request for Interwiki table configuration
Hi Community, Please I hereby request that 1. 'fd:' links to https://famedata.org, 2. 'f:' links to https://en.famepedia.org. on the inter-wiki table Thanks. Cc: @ Ugochimobi (talk) 23:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Ugochimobi Do you require either of the forward or transclude flags for either or no? (These can always be changed later.) Also, do you want me to add  on Famepedia as well, or just add   on Famepedia and   on Famedata? Dmehus (talk) 23:37, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Its like this, 'f' for famepedia and 'fd' for famedata since we already have 'd' for wikidata. Don't know if we can override that. Ugochimobi (talk) 23:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You can definitely use  for Famedata as a local override. My question, though, is do you want both prefixes on both your wikis, or just the prefix for the one wiki on the other wiki and the prefix for the other wiki on the one wiki? Hope that clarifies. Dmehus (talk) 23:54, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * yes both prefixes on both wikis please, and you can use 'd' for famedata locally. Thanks. Ugochimobi (talk) 23:57, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Understood. Both prefixes on both wikis have been ✅ now. Dmehus (talk) 00:07, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay @, it hasn't reflected though but can this interwiki especially 'f' be global? Ugochimobi (talk) 00:30, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi In keeping with Miraheze's commitment to have as much local control and discretion on each wiki, interwiki prefixes are added locally to each wiki's interwiki table. Thus, the changes are are already effected on Famepedia's interwiki table and Famedata's interwiki table. The global interwiki table is held on Meta Wiki at Special:Interwiki and is mainly used for interwiki prefixes used by many wikis or because they share a common pan-Miraheze purpose. As it would become quite bloated rather quickly, we instead created MirahezeMagic pseudo-interwiki prefixes, which are formatted in the format of . They even work in log actions now, thanks to Universal Omega's recent enhancements! The only things you cannot do is transclude them or use them for locally assigning imported edits, but that's why we can add interwiki prefixes to your wiki. Dmehus (talk) 00:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks man! Ugochimobi (talk) 00:49, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi No problem at all. You may be interested to know that you can manage interwiki prefixes on your locally, if you wish. To do this, all you need to do is hold a local election on each wiki where requesting  and, provided you meet the global policy requirements for local interwiki administrators, can then request Stewards assess your local election after at least 5-7 calendar days. This is generally only required, though, if you expect to regularly add local interwiki or interlanguage prefixes to your wiki(s), but it is nonetheless an option available to you. Dmehus (talk) 00:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Many thanks Ugochimobi (talk) 09:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi @, Could you please guide me in this regards?? Ugochimobi (talk) 09:33, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Generally speaking, it just involves you creating either a special election page somewhere on your wiki or, if you have a specific permissions requests page, adding your request for local  to that page. Unless your wiki has rules defining how long permissions requests or elections should remain open, after at least 5-7 calendar days, you can then post a note on stewards' noticeboard requesting a Steward assess your local election. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, @ you mean I should request local interwiki-admin permission on my local Request for permission page and then after 5-7 calendar days i can come request a steward to assess my request. For example in my Administrators' Noticeboard page??? Ugochimobi (talk) 14:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's right, principally because it's a local user group. It's only restricted to Stewards to grant for mainly security and technical reasons. The page you linked would be fine, yeah. Dmehus (talk) 15:01, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay Thanks @ I'll do just that Ugochimobi (talk) 15:11, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay @ I'll do just that. Ugochimobi (talk) 15:20, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Bug, or glitch?
The results for the site where I manage, is a "". While the first result offers the user, two more appear as if they were different pages, more is the same, this in the search engine. It happens in all search engines, be it Bing or Google. Again: YellowFrogger (talk) 02:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi,
 * We've noticed it before. It's waiting on a fix from upstream as I don't think we found a good workaround. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  06:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Problems with posting talk discussions with flow on the
We seem to be having an issue with the Flow as I can't write on talk pages. Can a Steward help resolve this? Thanks. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:38, 6 April 2021 (UTC)


 * DarkMatterMan4500 If this is a user rights issue, I'd recommend reaching out to MarioMario456 to correct this. If he's unsure what the issue is, I can assist him by taking a look. If it's a technical problem, Phabricator would probably be the better place, but in any case, we need more details on what the issue is. I'll try and take a look and see if it's a user rights issue, though. Dmehus (talk) 15:40, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, then I could file a task on Phabricator if MarioMario456 can't figure it out either. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:41, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, I keep receiving this error: "[6cca2fbcde71c63e07b6ce79] Caught exception of type Flow\Exception\NoParserException". DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Yep, I've just tested it and got . I wonder if this is related to Universal Omega's fix allowing the   content model in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces? In any case, please create a Phabricator ticket, tasked as priority high. Dmehus (talk) 15:44, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Just ✅ on Phabricator. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:51, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Please read my comment on this task. This is an upstream bug. 15:52, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I had no idea he filed it before me. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:53, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if it's related to that upstream bug you linked to, though, as then other wikis' StructuredDiscussions talk pages would not be working. This is a new wiki, so could be related to a local Miraheze configuration issue. In any case, I feel this needs a full local stack trace and investigation. Dmehus (talk) 15:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Images not displaying for FAMEPedia
Uploaded images are no longer displaying on famepedia. Even images from Miraheze Commons and Wikimedia Commons. Take a look at my userpage for an example HERE How can this be sorted out Ugochimobi (talk) 15:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Ugochimobi This looks like you've uploaded the images to your Famepedia wiki; however, I do see they're not loading. I wonder if this is a bug related to Reception123's mounting change to our  file server? Could you please file a Phabricator task? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You already helped me file it here Thanks.
 * I really hope it should be resolved Ugochimobi (talk) 16:24, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @ It hasn't been resolved yet😫 Ugochimobi (talk) 20:07, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Not to worry, RhinosF1 has taken ownership of the task and did say, in on IRC that he expected to be able complete it within several hours (so, presumably, before his sleep time tonight). Dmehus (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks man. Ugochimobi (talk) 20:18, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Importing Wiki Pages From FANDOM
I would like to ask how to import pages from FANDOM into pages on this wiki. BookFandumb1 (talk) 22:12, 6 April 2021 (UTC)


 * BookFandumb1 I assume you mean your wiki, as this is Meta Wiki, the central coordination wiki for Miraheze. To import pages, you can do this in Special:Export on the Fandom wiki, download the XML dump, then in Special:Import on your wiki, select your XML file, locally assign edits where applicable, and enter  in the interwiki prefix field, where subdomain equals  . You may wish to export and import only one revision from each page, provided you include a log summary linking to , as this reduces the likelihood of your getting a 503 backend fetch failed error. If you want to import a lot of pages with all revisions, then it's recommended you request this on Phabricator and system administrators will run a maintenance script for you. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 22:18, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * To add on to Dmehus's comment above, depending on the size of your wiki, using Special:Export to obtain a dump might be inconvenient. If you are a sysop or bureaucrat on the Fandom wiki you are trying to export, it would be easier to request the creation of a dump by clicking the button at the bottom of Special:Statistics on your Fandom wiki and then waiting for the dump to be generated. Once it is generated, you can download it at the same place you requested it at without having to gather a list of pages yourself. Joritochip (talk) 22:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It did not work and it said "Expected tag." BookFandumb1 (talk) 22:48, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you please post a link to your Fandom wiki so I could take a further look? Thanks Joritochip (talk) 23:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The wiki got deleted, but I have the pages downloaded. BookFandumb1 (talk) 00:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

How do I enable Navigation Popups or Popups?
Can I know If its possible to enable navigation popups?? or to have it? Ugochimobi (talk) 10:19, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * You can enable the Popups extension by going to Special:ManageWiki/extensions on your wiki. Details are available here. :-) 10:25, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay @ Thanks. Let me see Ugochimobi (talk) 11:07, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Since you also asked about Navigation Popups, the easiest way to enable this (for yourself) is to follow these instructions. If you want to install it as a gadget on your wiki for other users, it is not too difficult, but generally just involves importing several files and listing the gadget file at MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition on your wiki. Instructions for this should also be on that same page I linked. Note that the Navigation Popups gadget conflicts with the Reference Previews extension. That's not to say you cannot have both installed on your wiki, but it just means that a user cannot have both the Reference Previews extension and Navigation Popups gadget enabled in their preferences. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:05, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @ I have actually installed It as a gadget on my wiki, and Yeah i actually followed the listed instructions here
 * It was indeed interesting Ugochimobi (talk) 14:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It was indeed interesting Ugochimobi (talk) 14:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Interwiki P request for memes.miraheze.org
I request that the interwiki prefix of  to be added/edited to link to memes.miraheze.org. Thank you, Wiki JS   talk  17:16, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * WikiJS Though there is a limited use case adding an interwiki prefix for the subject wiki to the subject wiki's local interwiki table, this is ✅ without the forward or transclude flags. If you are wanting to link to Memepedia from other Miraheze wikis, you can, of course, always use  in both edits and log actions. Dmehus (talk) 17:37, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I can see that Dmehus has already handled this request for you, which is great but I was just wondering if you were requesting the prefix to be added to Meta's interwiki table (which is also the global one). 17:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I was talking about my local interwiki table, not the global one, as I don't see a reason for it to be stored globally. Wiki JS   talk  18:26, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying. I was just very confused. 13:22, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Redirection Issue
I have a button that links to a page on my wiki, but whenever I click on it, it just shows a "cannot load" page. Is there any fix for this? Sorry for the crappy quality, I had to convert the video to a gif. Wiki JS  talk  18:39, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * WikiJS Thank you for reporting this issue. We do prefer screenshots for these things be uploaded to Miraheze Commons, generally with a specific filename (including a date and timestamp in the file name is usually ideal). In any event, we can perform that housekeeping and migration later. Regarding your issue, I'm not sure I see the issue in the screenshot. Can you perhaps clarify what you mean and maybe upload a new version of that screenshot to File:Issue.gif circling or otherwise highlighting the problem? Dmehus (talk) 18:51, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * WikiJS Nevermind. I see that File:Issue.gif is an animated GIF. I've now ✅ the issue for you. The issue was your Template:Main Page, imported from MediaWiki.org, still had the  prefix. Dmehus (talk) 18:56, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Lost the password reset from Simple Electronics Wiki
On simpleelectronics.miraheze.org I've removed all permissions from anonymous (*) users. That has also lost the permission to use Special:PasswordReset and I can't find out how to re-enable it. Please advise. Rob Kam (talk) 23:25, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Rob Kam While I'm not sure which user right controls access to Special:PasswordReset, if I had to guess, I'd probably try  first. Try re-adding that to the   group. If that doesn't work, try re-adding some of the other permissions from the default permissions&mdash;namely   and  . Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:28, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Rob Kam Looks like my theory was correct, as this MediaWiki.org documentation page indeed confirms that  controls access to Special:PasswordReset. Dmehus (talk) 23:34, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks that has sorted the issue out. Rob Kam (talk) 00:28, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, ✅. Thanks for the update. Dmehus (talk) 00:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

VisualEditor and permission restricting
I manage symbian, and to prevent spam, I have configured it so that only manually approved users can edit the wiki, by removing all edit rights from all user groups except bureaucrat and sysop, and creating a new "approved" group that has edit rights. However, doing this causes VisualEditor to complain that "You're not allowed to edit this wiki through the API" for users in the "approved" group. I have found this issue on Wikimedia Phabricator which seems to be what I'm encountering here. I don't fully understand the discussion in the thread there, but it seems that avoiding this problem requires configuration changes that requires backend access. Is it possible (within what's permitted in the Miraheze infrastructure) to keep the permission restrictions and use VisualEditor at the same time? --Jack980517 (talk) 04:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I should have read it more closely. This comment says I just need to grant the "writeapi" right to the "approved" user group. Did just that and now it's working. --Jack980517 (talk) 05:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice ✅ Ugochimobi (talk) 09:31, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Jack980517 While I'm not completely certain if one can edit on a wiki via the API with only the  user right or if they'd also need the   user right (making   a contingent user right), I suspect the latter may in fact be the case. C.Syde65 has done fairly extensive research into MediaWiki user rights and contingent user rights, so may be able to provide that answer. In any case, if your wiki uses the StructuredDiscussions, the Flow talk page manager system user requires that user right as part of the   user group, ostensibly because it is a system user rather a regular, registered user account. It may work by adding the   user right to the   user group instead, but I just haven't tested that. In any case, if the latter is indeed the case, that would mean   is essentially useless without the   user right, so would be no harm in leaving as part of the   to prevent unintended consequences. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't use StructuredDiscussions, and I did already have edit rights granted to the "approved" group. I just didn't expect that the "writeapi" right is necessary, as the description is vague, and I didn't think visual editing falls under API use (the user is not directly using the API after all). This is a weird situation that I hope upstream (MediaWiki) can get rid of. --Jack980517 (talk) 14:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Jack980517 Ah, okay, sounds good. Yeah, looks like you resolved it in a great way. I just thought that additional might might be helpful. In any case, yeah, hopefully, the MediaWiki.org development team can figure out a solution. Dmehus (talk) 14:41, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Assistance
I'm currently procedurally creating a bot for my wiki, so all I need is assistance as much as could get from here. So please my first question is do I have shell access on my wiki? FAMEPedia is the wiki Ugochimobi (talk) 10:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)


 * @, @, @, @ please. Ugochimobi (talk) 11:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. We do not allow shell access for anyone other than System administrators on Miraheze. However, we do have ManageWiki, which allows users to edit settings, extensions, permissions and namespaces on their wiki without needing shell access. Our software and settings are also open source. In addition to ManageWiki, if there is something that is not on there that you need (for example another setting, or to a run a maintenance script), you can request it here. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 11:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Can I request that a directory is uploaded to my wiki server? Ugochimobi (talk) 11:32, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That is not possible I'm afraid, there are no single wiki servers since we are a wiki farm. What exactly would you like to do? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 12:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * While Miraheze does not permit anyone other than Site Reliability Engineering team members to have shell access to the wiki farm's servers for the reasons Reception123 articulated, we do have the MirahezeBots project, an independently-run project authorized to the use the Miraheze name that aims to provide the community hosting of bots (mainly IRC currently, but wiki bots as well) and other tools. Other than their wiki, all of their servers are provided by a separate hosting provider, Fosshost. Their hosting policy is still in draft form and Access Policy may still need some refinements, but potentially the MirahezeBots project would be a great provider to host your wiki bot. I can't provide any timelines on when the community bot hosting will be up running, but RhinosF1 would be the best one to contact about that&mdash;perhaps on his MirahezeBots user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 13:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to review a bot for our hosting. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  13:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * So you suggest I host the bot on MirahezeBots? Ugochimobi (talk) 14:15, 8 April 2021 (UTC)