User talk:Raidarr

Criminal wiki
Hi Raidarr, how are you? The criminal wiki is still available if you wanted to edit more? Thanks. Sperosdurell (talk) 22:34, 6 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I believe I left you a comment regarding organization there, and that is what I would likely start with. Bear in mind that two other wikis are my creative focus, although actually focusing on them is a tricky business and the only reason I try to 'muse up' looking elsewhere. So your mileage may vary, and unfortunately it would not be daily. If you have a platform like Discord we could discuss things all at once to come up with a creative direction using whatever you have in mind and what I can manage in offshoots of my ideas. Thank you. -- Raidarr (talk) 10:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Shaw's Nightmare
Hi Raidarr, how are you? Shaw's Nightmare Wiki needs some help, so maybe try to edit it more? The levels articles in particular need some love. Thanks. Mickey96 (talk) 19:10, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I haven't edited at all, and that is because I have little interest in the wiki subject. But if you would like advice or administrative work, feel free to specify what you'd like to see and I can give it a look. For content itself - the stuff that requires most familiarity with the material - I'm afraid I am not useful for. --Raidarr (talk) 20:23, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

What do you think of the Home Page and how attractive it is to newcomers? Mickey96 (talk) 09:24, 20 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Stark average for Miraheze, which is essentially no real draw to outsiders. If people are pulled in I think it would be strictly out of interest in the game. There's nothing particularly advanced on it, which isn't necessarily a bad thing; however, it is not in any way designed, and I consider design to be something like this. Of course how you'd have it would be whatever fits the game - frankly, you couldn't do too much and still offer an accurate impression of how the game itself is - but the point is that it's distinct from a default Vector skin, which is stereotypical on Miraheze and doesn't do favors in the question of design. Though there can be design through Vector as well (see the Miraheze front page for a basic example), and what you have going I'd consider fairly simple. Still, that can work, so I'll move to content. It's also worth noting that some front pages on Miraheze actively hurt the wiki's cosmetic appeal, and yours does not do that (imo).
 * The official site link could be built into the wiki's sidebar for ease of access. The news layout is not too shabby, but perhaps could be done in a box, and the user page notice could be a part of it as well since they're both announcements. Alternatively you could blend one or both (user page + looking for staff) into a MediaWiki:Sitenotice block, which would appear at the very top of the page and also appear on every wiki page until dismissed so you can snare people coming in from any page. Important Articles is not too bad, clean enough to work fine. If you want to get fancy, I'll suggest possibly duplicating an information layout that's something like these (any particular way, don't mind the mediocre color of the examples). Only if it appeals to you of course, but the extra advantage being that you can put the box(es) into relevant pages as well if you use templates. The file links may perhaps carry descriptions or even dedicated pages about their function, troubleshooting and so on, even if they seem relatively self-explanatory at a glance. While people can pretty much get all they need out of the current screenshots listed (and I think having them was a good idea), perhaps a few more can be used. But per some of the examples above I'd try to leverage the horizontal space of the page as well. Much of this may include digging a little into the interface, the CSS, and templating, so only take this as far as you'd be able/want to do/need.
 * I should also note (slightly off topic), you can actually make a talk page for any username and it will ping that user (although if it pings them globally depends if they opted into that, but that applies with or without a user page). Hope it helps ^ --Raidarr (talk) 10:53, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Not to be a pest...
I do have a lot of stubs. My mind works in weird ways sorry. If your around sometime easypedia is there. Thank you talk to you later. Sperosdurell (talk) 14:12, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I didn't intend to be mean, personally. However, I do worry a little about the long term future. You have an account that appears to be an alt that requested the wiki, which seems odd. Previous projects seem to be left behind with nothing more than the stubs. To contribute to a place, I need to know that it will last, and that its leaders intend more for it than hoping that someone else (ie, me) will be the ones to give it depth. One-line promises cannot do this. If you have more ideas for what the wiki will do, please share. In particular I need to believe that the wiki stands for more than just being an alternative wikipedia with a lot less stuff and no content curation.
 * I give anything with a clear idea a chance, but there at least should be proof to more in the idea. A passion if you will. Evidence that this is 'the one' that won't be what I have seen before. --Raidarr (talk) 14:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I live in a hard environment to do miraheze or any wiki project for that matter. Saying that i will try and edit every day so the wiki doesn't go stale. I hope you can work with me and the Wiki. Sperosdurell (talk) 14:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I can respect not having much time. I'm not sure when I will go back to EP, but I'll give it another look and try to see if there is something structural I can offer. --Raidarr (talk) 15:06, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Much appreciated. Im sticking with it!!! Sperosdurell (talk) 15:10, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies, i hope you can accept my apology. Sperosdurell (talk) 15:03, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * hi raidarr, apologies for bothering you, news you visited, any chance you coming back? Sperosdurell (talk) 01:10, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Well frankly it depends on a question. Is that wiki going to get more than a week's attention, or will it go the way of every other? 'sticking to it' didn't age well when your talk page and logs indicate you then went on an unsustainable creation spree for seemingly every other topic to exist. --Raidarr (talk) 08:06, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Patroller granted - 2021-08-30
Hi, Raidarr. An administrator on Meta has granted you the  user group permission, which gives you the ability to   recent changes and new pages of other Miraheze users (both registered and anonymous) who are  not either autopatrolled or an administrator. In addition, this group also means that your edits are, so other patrollers or administrators don't have to patrol your edits. You should also be aware that the granting of this user group is at the discretion of Meta administrators, so different administrators will have slightly different criteria for granting. Likewise, just as it is a discretionary appointment, revocation is also at the discretion of Meta administrators and, again, each will have their own criteria for revocation.

In the medium-term, plans are in the works to develop a Meta Patrollers School, likely led by one or two active administrators, that will provide a comprehensive set of guidelines for patrollers and answers to commonly asked questions.

Nevertheless, the following are some of the main guidelines for patrolling. If you follow these guidelines completely, it is unlikely your patroller user group should ever be revoked. In technical terms, even when you find content that requires deletion by an administrator or otherwise requires remediation, undoing, reverting, or rolling back (if you are also a, of course), you should always first mark as patrolled any revisions regardless of whether that content is destined to remain extant to the page or even on Meta entirely.


 * 1) When patrolling talk pages, user talk pages, and noticeboards (in Main and Meta namespaces), you should first check to see whether the user properly signed their posts using four tildes . If they have not, you should add unsigned by substitution, where username is the user's username or IP address and the timestamp is the full timestamp from the diff page. As a best practice, you should also link to the diff in your edit summary, so other administrators and patrollers can easily tie your modification to the original edit being modified. To speed up this process, you can copy the   user script from line 5 of this page into either your (a) common.js or (b) global.js page (the latter applying globally on all Miraheze wikis);
 * 2) When patrolling the noticeboards, ask yourself whether this topic is on the correct noticeboard. If it is not, you should move it to the correct noticeboard, by either undoing the edit or manually removing the topic (if there have been intervening edits), again linking to the original noticeboard of the topic and the new noticeboard where it was moved in your edit summary. On the new noticeboard, you would simply paste in the topic (including the section header), linking to the diff page as in the first step. An example edit summary might be , where  ######  represents the numeric revision ID of the originally posted topic;
 * 3) Also when patrolling the noticeboards and talk pages (including user talk pages), as a best practice, take care to kindly fix any formatting mistakes (such as excess line breaks or incorrect wiki code), per WP:LISTGAP;
 * 4) If something requires deletion, you can add delete to the top of the page in question, taking care to follow the instructions on that template page;
 * 5) If you come across a user who repeatedly makes the same mistakes, send them a guidance note on their user talk page, informing of the steps need to edit and post constructively on Meta; and, finally,
 * 6) If in doubt whether something requires remediation or not, patrol it, and then ask any administrator via their user talk page or at Administrators' noticeboard if any further action needs to be taken.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Thank you! --Dmehus (talk) 02:13, 30 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Excellent. I believe I'm good right now, but I'll let you (or at least someone :p) know if something comes up. Thank you. --Raidarr (talk) 08:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

To Raidarr
I left a message for you on sixsentencespedia, thnx 😊 Sperosdurell (talk) 22:36, 17 September 2021 (UTC) Morning Sperosdurell (talk) 10:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello. I have replied there, but is there more you wanted to discuss? --Raidarr (talk) 11:27, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Just saying hi and im working on the Wiki as best i can. Ttyl. Sperosdurell (talk) 12:46, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

I also sent you a message on my new wiki. Tootle-loo! FreezingTNT (talk) 18:43, 19 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Responded there as well. --Raidarr (talk) 22:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

So I finished my response on the wiki, had some personal-related issues in IRL which prevented me from finishing the comment. FreezingTNT (talk) 21:18, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Morning.
It's me, Speros. SperosDurrell (talk) 10:59, 23 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello? --Raidarr (talk) 11:55, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

A bit of background about the Rebrand

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Further edits will be reverted.
 * You are ignoring my points, my suggestions for due process, and the simple facts including:


 * Your arguments lack a proper community concensus to stand on; the primary source is a lengthy back and forth exchange unilaterally composed and imposed by a small handful of users on behalf of all of the wikis
 * Your case has no backing or interest shown by bureaucrat members of Qualitipedia's administration
 * There is no demand, indeed a snowball response to the many things you have proposed in pursuit of a rebrand only you are pushing
 * Said rebrand has done nothing to administratively stabilize an inherently unstable leadership structure, in other words, what you are proposing I don't care about because it does not solve actual problems
 * You have no authority based on the above to tell me, the Qualitipedia staff, or the Miraheze Sysadmins and Stewards what to do, and you certainly cannot demand technical changes be done or not done because you're singlehandedly pushing a rebrand
 * The primary engineer of the rebrand is not in good standing and has in fact entirely abandoned Qualitipedia to pursue his own vision per his right, but that does not mean the ideas that became a part of the wikis are in any way his to change now

If you want to discuss this topic, take it to a sympathetic Qualitipedia bureaucrat or use due process to suggest its implementation on Qualitipedia Meta when you are able after the unblock (such as by Request for Comment). I am not interested in what else you have to say about this and I will refuse any further discourse via my talk page on any wiki. What you do with other users or due process in community is your business, but I strongly suggest avoiding the bossy imposition of your positions as 'the only options' both for the sake of your case being respected by anyone and to avoid trouble that comes with that behavior. It's become easy to understand why Mario and Duchess were frustrated with you. Though my temper is somewhat longer, it has run its course. There is nothing more to say. --Raidarr (talk) 19:51, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Since you seem to not know much about the rebrand, I will catch you up. In August 2020, a user named FreezingTNT came up with the idea to reform what was known at that time as the Triangle of Opinionated Entertainment. It went through a few name changes, however. The rebrand was originally known as Operation Phoenix. The plan was to group all of the entertainment wikis existing at the time into one big network. After September, the plan mostly went stale. However, in December, I discovered these plans when I searched up Triangle of Opinionated Entertainment to see what would come up. I left a message saying that I liked the idea, given that the Outcast Network had fallen just three months earlier. Then, me, FreezingTNT, and a few other users discussed ideas, including name changes and some merges. First, the logos were changed to logos inspired by those used by MatPat. Then we decided to merge Horrible TV Show Episodes Wiki with Terrible TV Shows Wiki to form Terrible Shows & Episodes Wiki, and merge Marvelous TV Show Episodes Wiki with Best TV Shows Wiki to form Best Shows & Episodes Wiki. We then renamed some of the wikis to new names, but only the actual wiki names and not the domain names/database names. We then did main page redesigns for all of the main pages, to what they are now. Even though we were almost finished, FreezingTNT unfortunately got blocked, and MarioMario456 and DuchessTheSponge then steered the rebrand way off course by changing the logos, closing the characters wikis, and creating Worst Music & Songs Wiki and abandoning the election on Horrible Music & Songs Wiki. They both had a clearly different agenda from FreezingTNT's vision, and they used his block as an excuse to set back a lot of the progress. Now that Duchess is locked and Mario is retired, we may be able to set things back to normal. This rebrand is not optional: It is for the future of Qualitipedia, and it is to unify the entertainment wikis following the fall of the Outcast Network. There is an entire thread on Awful Movies Wiki discussing the rebrand, which bumped my contribution count on that wiki from about 50 to over 400, though I have done other edits. This rebrand is what invested much of my interest in Qualitipedia and is why I started becoming much more active. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:20, 26 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Here is the thread which basically provides most of the background: mh:awfulmovies:Topic:Vslpo86sxynoddjn. It is actually on the talk page for FreezingTNT's sandbox which gives even more background. Warning: The thread is very long and may take a while to load. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:26, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I am familiar with the attempted rebrand, and considering its original engineers are gone and the current admins have no apparent desire to continue it, the only rebrand I think will happen is the kind I personally try and execute since there is nothing binding in the content you state now. FreezingTNT is still gone. Need for change is not optimal. The methods including what you state is. It is merely your opinion that your method described is mandatory. I invite you to contribute to the current discussions and efforts, including my latest regarding policy review. This aspect along with zero effort at a staffing-first approach to fixes I suspect are critical to why the rebrand had severe issues in the first place, more than individual users being an issue. It should have considered their problems in behavior in the first place. Know the current environment. Being inflexible in this is what will result in failure. --Raidarr (talk) 15:58, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Whoa whoa whoa, you can't just suddenly undo months of progress. I am one of the engineers. You can't just randomly go and change everything that took months to build. Nothing is wrong with the rebrand. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:16, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I haven't personally undone anything. The progress, however, has clearly not been done for quite a few months straight (certainly not since I've been here), and a good portion of what you describe was already undone. The full details of what to do were not even fully concentrated into a final plan and the actual engineer with powers has long since been demoted; you were not an engineer with authority. Said plan is clearly not successful. If you want to propose an actionable plan to the people actually responsible with the power, do so with the bureaucrats - probably DarkMatterMan who you are already in contact with. But do not presume you can order people to follow a plan that was never definitive (if the best you can provide for it is an incredibly lengthy thread with disagreements + back and forths) and a position of authority that never existed, because you remain unpopular today for this impression among influential users of QP. --Raidarr (talk) 23:24, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately yes, it does seem like some of it has been undone. I would not call the rebrand "failed", however, because the wiki merges, wiki renames, and main page redesigns are all finished. Also, the wikis are now known as Qualitipedia because of the rebrand. Also, the plan is definitive. The rebrand, or Operation Phoenix as it was originally called in early stages, has been mostly successful. The only reason that Operation Phoenix did not completely succeed was because of FreezingTNT's demotion and Trevor807 and Masson Thief leaving the wikis, thus resulting in MarioMario456 and DuchessTheSponge usurping the throne and undoing a lot of the progress. Operation Phoenix is already complete. Other than the logo changes and the characters wikis being kicked out of the network, Operation Phoenix has been successful. So it is not the "failed experiment" that you claim it is. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:44, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I will ping here so he can give his two cents, since this whole rebrand was his idea and he may have more to say. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:49, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Believe as you wish, the conditions I noted remain the same. Also, for the record, I don't hold much faith in it if those main pages were the intention. They are due for a further redesign so they can actually be responsive and have less wasted space. They are not something to unilaterally impose as your near flooding of the noticeboards with largely your own issues would try, whether you see it that way or not. If you want to discuss it further, heed the above or take it to the bureaucrats. I shall not enter yet another prolonged argument about your opinion verses mine with little progress in each exchange. --Raidarr (talk) 00:49, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please do not change anything about the rebrand. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:33, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please leave administrative work to administrators and use the proper functions to influence them. --Raidarr (talk) 19:38, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The rebrand is complete, and there is no need to revert anything. Things are fine just the way they are right now. All that needs to happen is Worst Music & Songs Wiki needs a main page redesign. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:43, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I know I said I would not bite further, but I note the change from 'don't jeopardize it' to 'it's already done don't change it'. Rather contradictory since hardly anything has changed between statements. Regardless, if this is the final result, it deserves to be overwritten. It is a small step towards civility from before in some parts, but it has a long way to go. The main page templates are poorly designed and the 'rebrand' has hardly improved anything from a staffing and policy perspective. This 'completeness' continues to leave Reception Wikis an inconsistent disaster and a drawback to the reputation of Miraheze as a platform from a design and content perspective. What I see in the wikis is the small sliver of a chance they can be constructively focused and improve this reputation, not just ego circles for a few users of influence or sullied with a total lack of standards or traffic and far too many wikis to be useful or manageable by administrators. Frankly what you are purporting now is a threat to this idea. Forgive me if I act to mitigate a threat of that nature in my actions going forward.--Raidarr (talk) 19:54, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * If you have problems with the rebrand, talk to FreezingTNT. But this was his idea, so it is either this rebrand or we go back to the Triangle of Opinionated Entertainment. We are not just randomly reorganizing the wikis. You will need FreezingTNT's consent before you can do anything with this. This is meant for unification. That is why we incorporated the music, literature, and character wikis into the network (before the characters wikis were kicked out). Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:19, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * FreezingTNT is not an administrator on Qualitipedia. In fact I believe his block still stands across Qualitipedia, which he is free to appeal through an actual appeals process that came into existence outside of your barely tangible rebrand. You have no legs to stand on. Desist. --Raidarr (talk) 19:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

I’m sorry
I’m sorry about that argument, I just got frustrated because you were talking about reverting the rebrand. I asked DMM to redesign the main page of Worst Music & Songs Wiki and that should be done soon. In the meantime, I feel it would be safest to leave things the way they are on Qualitipedia for right now, and improvements can be discussed when improvements are needed. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi
i decided to come back. SperosDurrell (talk) 09:00, 30 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok. --Raidarr (talk) 09:10, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * just letting you know no hard feelings. SperosDurrell (talk) 09:13, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Likewise; by all means, feel free to come and go. --Raidarr (talk) 09:16, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated. SperosDurrell (talk) 09:21, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * if ever, dict could use some help. Thnx. SperosDurrell (talk) 09:22, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm only looking, no current interest as a contributor. If you have questions though, I can try to answer. --Raidarr (talk) 09:48, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Wiki creator helpful tips
Hi Raidarr,

First off, I will just start by welcoming you to the wiki creator team. Thank you for volunteering. As you are no doubt aware, Content Policy is our key global policy that guides us in creating wikis for customers. Essentially, every wiki needs to have both a clear purpose, some sort of scope (broad or narrow), and a topical focus. This is the main criterion that helps us to determine whether a wiki will have any potential Content Policy problems.

Second, I wanted to share with you a few tips that I found helpful when I first joined as a wiki creator:


 * 1) "Request comments" tab. Intuitively, one would think to use this tab when requesting more information, but as Amanda Catherine (and others) pointed out to me shortly after I joined as a wiki creator, there is currently a known issue with this in that the requestor isn't notified via e-mail unless their wiki is either (a) approved or (b) declined. Thus, when requesting more information on a wiki request, you really either (a) use the "decline" tab, referencing your follow-up comments in that text box and telling them to back into Special:RequestWikiEdit/  in order to add to, but not replace, their existing description with the needed information or (b) use either the "request comments" or "decline" tab in combination with a message on the requestor's user talk page on Meta. The approach you use is entirely up to you. I personally prefer option A, but either one is fine;
 * Note: this was prior to RequestWiki changes made since last fall, so this one no longer applies, but I included it, albeit with strikethrough text for posterity
 * 1) Private wikis. Private wikis can generally have a shorter description and a less specific purpose, scope, or topic, but they do still need one. If you have some reservations about approving it as, say, a public wiki, due to that vagueness, you can tell them, in your comments prior to approving it, that you're approving it only as a private wiki and remind them to ensure their wiki complies with all aspects of Content Policy;
 * 2) Eurovision song contest and fictional worldbuilding wikis. These are two types of wikis that have few, if any, problems with them. So, as long as there's a clear sitename, URL, and at least a few words in the description that indicates this as the purpose, it's fine to approve them;
 * 3) Reception wikis (positive and negative). Many of the Reception wikis tend to give us the most the grief, especially in terms of content that is very negative about users. If it's a Reception wiki that focuses on terrible fast-food restaurants, that's usually less problematic than, say, one that focuses on gamer or YouTube celebrities, mainly because you're not dealing with content about real, living people. Please don't hesitate in asking follow up questions, sometimes multiple times, of these wikis, trying to narrow down whether the wikis will write about real people in some way and, if so, how they will do it. And, at the end of the day, if you are still not comfortable approving, you can write "on hold" for review by another wiki creator in "request comments";
 * 4) Chinese language mini-world wiki requests. These ones are tricky, but cause us arguably the most grief, particularly when they publish personal information of real people without their consent. Stewards have recently closed a swath of them following a detailed report on stewards' noticeboard, but some of the tricks I've observed them using are odd descriptions like "anti-dog wiki" or to "expose the truth and scandal". Somewhat less common, they will use a completely different, but vague, description, then change their tune when you follow up with them and use some of those key phrases I mentioned in the previous sentence;
 * 5) Google Translate. Don't hesitate to use Google Translate to review non-English public and private wikis. Notwithstanding the above point, most of these wikis' descriptions translate surprisingly well. As you've probably already noticed, I like to copy and paste the translated to English description into "request comments," so other wiki creators can see it easily. This is optional, but it's a good practice, I think; and,
 * 6) Don't hesitate to reach out on Discord and ask for a second opinion. If you are still unsure about approving a wiki, or just want a second opinion, don't hesitate to reach out to any wiki creator on Discord. This might be the most important guideline.

There's probably some additional tips I could include, based on more contemporary types of recent wiki requests, notably recent 4chan- and Polandball-type wiki requests, which will possibly require sending back to the requestor for additional clarifying information at least once. Feel free to share suggested additions to these tips, and let me know if you find them useful. :)

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 03:51, 1 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the assorted notices; some bits I knew from observation and others are helpful to fill holes in the gaps. I'd like to have a small discourse on some what-if scenarios I've either seen or that might strain the precedence I know to make me defer the listing.
 * Theoretically from what I understand the principle is not so much wikis about or including people in a negative light, so much as the fact they are consistently unsourced, tend to be subject to wild accusations and politically partisan 'common knowledge' and are irregularly considered by the local administrators or even contributed to by them. Is there a scenario where a reception wiki say, regarding youtubers (negative or a combined premise) may offer a proper explanation of its techniques and offer a plausible guarantee that it will curate the quality of its pages so as to not result in systemic Content Policy violation? Namely I'm exploring any boundaries you might consider to have precedence where a wiki might offer a description that toes the line or is made by an unknown or even a well established user without the usual reception wiki record of bungling these topics.
 * Also relevant to above, there is a common trend on the reception wikis as well to now entirely block references to people, communities, and sometimes controversies in page matter. While it is reasonable as local policy to do this (and on most wikis where this is done, they had little business having pages about people anyways), it is often justified as them being automatic violations of the Code of Conduct and otherwise an automatic violation of Miraheze global policy. I'd like to clarify if they're onto something, or if my assumption is correct that they should be more worried about the Content Policy instead, and the rules aren't so much because pages on people and fandoms are automatically restricted, they just require a certain level of care so they don't at minimum potentially create problems for other wikis as well as count negatively in a legal sense that would violate CP and in particular, describing controversy is not a problem as long as it's done in a neutral way and puts some time into offering sources.
 * URL is a relatively less frequent issue to encounter, but still a relevant portion of the process; I believe I have a good idea of the sorts of URLs that are not desirable for a wiki to have at all and how to judge URL association with wikis, but I wonder if you have additional advice regarding this and where to spot fringe cases as well.
 * There may be other thoughts as time goes on since this is more of an 'early morning' list; no need to consider this a priority, since if any case does strain my judgement you've already noted the two most critical tools, deferring and second opinion (I'm particularly fond of the latter). In any case, thank you again for both these messages and for approval. --Raidarr (talk) 08:30, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Basic help
Hi Raidarr! I'm recently learning English and I intend to improve. However, it's not good as far as I can understand things. According to your userpage, you are a native English speaker. You are able to help me by listening to this audio:. What she said? It was posted in a group on a media, but I didn't understand this "joke" (only the ending). YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 02:09, 13 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Frankly, the audio sucks to figure out even for a native speaker - it has unnecessary noise and interruption on a few parts. From what I understand, "Okay so, there's good and bad news, the cat I got you is great but has no tail because I gave it up I was really hungry okay?" I may be wrong and the English here is unclear, but presumably the cat had a tail, but apparently the tail needed to go because it was either food or it got her food. As far as jokes go, maybe I'm missing the point too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --Raidarr (talk) 22:08, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Changes to the dormancy policy
Why did you go "revive this topic"!? Now there we go again YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits )</b> 20:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)


 * What are you talking about? --Raidarr (talk) 21:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * From that here. Just edit someone and come more people and vote, as if it were contagious. It's been a few days since and it was supposed to close this discussion. I can imagine you're little crazy for me to say something, so in the next poll you can quote this comment, ha! YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 21:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what the point of your commentary is here. The last day I edited before today is December 1st with this edit. On that day there were edits by 6 other unique users with ongoing conversation that was not resolved on that day, along with more discussion in the days before that. Between the 1st and today, TheDungeonMaster replied on December 3rd with several edits. December 6th with the latest edits was started with 10 by El Komodos Drago before I even showed up with my three so far.
 * Discussions close when Stewards assess that the points have been discussed as far as they will go. One of my edits today was a direct response to a comment made to me. Other conversations are ongoing and there has been no evidence that it should simply be closed now. As much as I think the proposal is probably as far as it can usefully go in its current form, that's not for you or me to assess.
 * So again, I'm not sure what you're talking about. --Raidarr (talk) 21:43, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Private wikis
Therefore, there is a difference between a public test wiki (for testing resources only) and a private wiki that will be used to test the CSS and the interface of the pages. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 17:24, 9 December 2021 (UTC)


 * For any wiki requested on the basis of testing features, resources, CSS and so on, Public Test Wiki is available and overwhelmingly encouraged, with very limited exceptions to be considered and argued case by case. This was the basis of my adjustment to the wording here, on top of your otherwise quite correct edit and good initiative. --Raidarr (talk) 17:35, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

One Question
Hello, Sir! My name is Ravin. I'm new here, can you tell me how can I rank my post on google that I want to create on my wiki? thank you. Ravin23 (talk) 09:25, 18 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello . Ranking a wiki (through something called "SEO") is a complicated topic, one I would addressed later today since it is advanced. However, because you asked this concurrent with a wiki request, I think I have a better idea where to start. It seems to me you're trying to create a page about a person, rather than necessarily starting a wiki with all of its software and technical features (which is what the wiki request process here truly means). For individual pages you would want to go to a specific wiki (one that is likely hosted by Miraheze, I imagine :p) that covers your topic, though we could arrange something via wiki request if you have technical reasons or other reasons why an existing wiki would not work. I ask you to clarify if I'm on the right track, and this will help support you as far as then getting the page the right location and the right attention.
 * For outside review, the request is here. --Raidarr (talk) 09:46, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not creating wiki about "One person", whole teachers of India; being a science student, I want to note of the biography of minimum 100-200 teachers on this wiki. That's why I'm requesting for... If is it not possible to create, sorry for disturbing :( Ravin23 (talk) 09:56, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Teachers of famous Edtech company like BYJU'S, Unacademy, PW, Vedantu etc. Ravin23 (talk) 09:59, 18 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Ah okay, the biographies of many teachers with, I assume, a standard encyclopedic type of writing. My apologies for the confusion, as that does strike me as a sufficient scope. In that case, please update the request with that information, and I or another creator will be able to return to it later. Please also note that the selected URL was too general; something more specific (unique) to your scope is necessary, as a two letter domain by default is a bit too general. That would likely get the request through the door, and at that point we can consider what to improve for reach. You would definitely benefit from enabling WIkiSEO in the ManageWiki extensions menu immediately upon receiving the wiki or when the content is 'release ready', as a first step to getting traffic. Beyond that what is needed is mostly semantic, with things like having as few stubs as possible and perhaps using some technical tricks so engines like Google have more to work with. --Raidarr (talk) 10:12, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much sir 🙏 Ravin23 (talk) 10:18, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm got my wiki now, thanks again sir! I'm so happy & excited 😊😀 Ravin23 (talk) 10:50, 18 December 2021 (UTC)


 * There is an extension called WikiSeo: mw:Extension:WikiSeo, you should expect to spawn a toolbar in ManageWiki/settings and put a Site Verification Key on something, for example: in Google Console Search and analyze data from your wiki. I already do that. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 15:32, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

The Meta Project Sandbox
Hello raidarr, Just wantedt to ask, can we have a sandbox for this Project? Probably in subpage like Raidarr/The Meta Project/Sandbox or somewhere else, so we can use for probably explanations of how things should be or something? I mean, I want to explain something to all Volunteers at The Meta Project and the general public based on what I have arranged on my own. Wdyt? just let me know :) --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   22:21, 22 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Based on what you're asking, I believe using the discussion page and creating a dedicated section to present your findings/input would be best, and for others to do the same (plus sections can be focused by topic. If it's large enough to entail a page for your ideas as a whole, you could create a dedicated one in your userspace, mark as essay and add it to the links of pages associated with the project. But if you see this and still believe a dedicated sandbox would be best, I wouldn't stop you. --Raidarr (talk) 22:31, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, I never thought of the TP tbh, maybe the TP wouldn't be a bad idea. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   22:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I like to encourage it :) --Raidarr (talk) 22:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

One question
Thanks for unblocking me, but I have one question. You said in the final message that you had shortened the block to one week, yet the block is still indefinite? I am guessing this may have been a mistake. It is good to have this issue finally resolved. Also, I do plan to make an RfC on the QP Meta wiki discussing changes to the blocking policy as a result of this, with similar points to those that I addressed in my RfC here on Miraheze Meta. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh, and can you restore my deleted userpages on Terrible Shows & Episodes Wiki and Rotten Websites Wiki, they were deleted a long time ago for no apparent reason and still have not been restored. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:25, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I suspect Raidarr will restore the user pages. I personally saw no reason for those to be deleted. As to the shortening of the block, I suspect that was an unintentional oversight and should be corrected shortly. Dmehus (talk) 21:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Per dmehus's statement, the QP unblock was blundered and has been fixed. Userpages restored as they were indeed removed for no good reason. --Raidarr (talk) 21:34, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. I also noticed that you said to discuss other blocks with wiki administration, though many of those wikis do not have active administration and seem to be dead. For those I guess we could wait for the Dormancy Policy to take its course. I didn't intend to contribute to many of those wikis anyway. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:39, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You may be able to reach members of their administrations elsewhere, ie, I know DarkMatterMan and Fatburn are on a number of wikis in a management position. In the end for some though, they probably will expire for inactivity. --Raidarr (talk) 22:17, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Most of those wikis do not seem to be active, a few are semi-active though I don't plan on doing much. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:49, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Wiki
I need a private test wiki due to how unstable the bots will be when madeThe zone (talk) 06:30, 31 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I would update the wiki request you made itself with exactly what the bots do, including what makes them so unstable, so WCs can decide if it would be acceptable for PTW, unacceptable for the platform depending on what the danger and instability means, or create the wiki as an acceptable niche use. --Raidarr (talk) 09:05, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The bots a a extreme risk on this site it would be better off to place them in a private site The zone (talk) 15:45, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * If the risk is as extreme as you reiterate, perhaps it is not a good fit for Miraheze hosting. --Raidarr (talk) 17:02, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your answer, Raidarr. I can't reply on the community board due to some tech problems. RedFox (talk) 13:40, 3 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Miraheze is struggling a bit I'm afraid. If you haven't tried source mode give it a go, I know the reply button doesn't work well but editing source should do it. --Raidarr (talk) 14:05, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi
What permissions do you get for adopting a Wiki Rn 001 project wiki making (talk) 21:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Adopting a wiki reopens it. You become a normal editor, like anyone else who then visits. What you can do from there is start a local election to gain more advanced rights. --Raidarr (talk) 22:00, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh maybe I'll just request oneRn 001 project wiki making (talk) 22:04, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi
can u approve my wiki request plsOctahedron foundation (talk) 23:57, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

hi
so what do you think for my satire wiki plan be honest Octahedron foundation (talk) 19:29, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I think you have been requesting too many wikis, been demonstrating rather strange behavior as a whole and should take particular stock of what is posted on your talk page regarding the use of multiple accounts and other behavior advisories before committing to a project or direction. --Raidarr (talk) 20:02, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Favor
Can I be a sysop on my wiki? Spoon.miraheze.org Octahedron foundation (talk) 21:13, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Sorry, no. --Raidarr (talk) 22:36, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey
So on my Wiki I was editing a couple groups and then I deleted the bureaucrat group basically locking me out of my Wiki please help restore the default permissions Octahedron foundation (talk) 23:13, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Translation
Hi! On your user page you mention that you are not good in some areas (or prefer to delay), and you mention "Proper translation". Which "translation" are you referring to? Translate the pages or just tag using tags? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Tags, administrative things surrounding translation, and of course the act of properly translating itself. --Raidarr (talk) 13:11, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Conversation
I can't find or there isn't a subpage you mentioned in a conversation with me on Discord. Where can I find such a way in which I can reply to messages? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 16:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Log summary!
Hi Raidarr. Will you please avoid the log summaries like this. It feeds the LTAs and they should be denied. Moreover, it is annoying and it looks like you are trying to communicate with them. Thanks and best of luck with your RfS :) --Magogre (talk) 03:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, Raidarr. This is weird. It's like feeding trolls. When you do, say "long-term abuse" and don't even care. They want attention and it amuses them. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 03:07, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Typically I do just that. In this case I felt inclined to indicate my amusement. I am not against communicating with them especially if they seek to communicate with me, though obviously the preference there is constructive communication for a positive result. Thank you for your input in any case. --Raidarr (talk) 03:08, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Log summaries
You have already been asked before to be more careful with log summaries. Now there are even more problems such as Special:Redirect/logid/700920. I will ask once again to please stop using log summaries like this, especially mere hours after getting the Steward bit as this may worry users as to what the future will be like. Naleksuh (talk) 21:54, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Frankly, please lighten up. 'Cease' is the only possible issue with the summary. It is not a particularly controversial word to include. If users en masse are concerned about that sort of occasional word, I'm afraid I should have never been elected as Steward. --Raidarr (talk) 21:57, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you'll be fine, but do be careful from now on. Naleksuh's concern is indeed valid, and if I was a Steward, I would have no issue just not using those types of log summaries when globally blocking IP addresses or ranges, and just used some of the reasons like Web host or proxy, long-term abuse, or crosswiki abuse, depending on the checks I would do (if I was ever elected to begin with). Perhaps could give you some guidance on how to do so. As for you, your concern (like I mentioned above) isn't wrong at all. All he needs is a little guidance, and that's it. :) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:13, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Could you indicate exactly what part of my summary was in error? --Raidarr (talk) 23:14, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * To be quite honest, I don't see the issue here. I would agree if perhaps Raidarr had said something provocative in the log entry but all he said was "Cease." Could someone please point out the fault in that? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 23:33, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it's the "detected creation of quite a few accounts with disruptive actions" summary (possibly that part) is what Naleksuh was talking about. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * But other than that, I don't really see the problem in this particular log summary, but I will advise to not do so again, as it could be a problem later if left unchecked. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Understand that if there is an issue, I very much want to correct it. But you went from a strong suggestion to be careful and fully reassuring Nale that he was not wrong at all, to speculating that the issue is what looks to me like an entirely harmless piece of text. You then say you don't see the problem at all, but advise me not to do 'it' again. If you cannot provide me with something clear that is indeed problematic, I have nothing to improve on and it makes this exchange at best entirely frivolous. Please clarify what the issue is that you backed up from the original post which I should not do again (and I pose the same question to Nale), or rescind the request if it does not have grounds that you can personally verify and advise based on. --Raidarr (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * My name is Naleksuh, please do not refer to me by any other name. My problem with it is that is the detected creation of quite a few accounts with disruptive actions. Cease., just "Cross-wiki abuse" would be fine. Naleksuh (talk) 00:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I cannot fulfill your request if you consider supplementary context as to why the IP was blocked (such accountability I thought was seen as desirable) to be an issue. Frankly, I do not consider it a matter of 'careful' at all as you originally indicate, making it shorter and vague seems to merely be a preference expressed solely by you, and even if 1-2 others explicitly did not care for it, it is hardly unheard of for actions to be taken with custom, vague, or silly summaries. The future will likely be like more elaborate log summaries where it is suitable on my part even if there are some (which have been conspicuously unaddressed here, and would be fully admitted as procedural errors on my part) which I do intend to reduce or correct next time. You're welcome to initiate a more involved community discussion if you believe Stewards should not have discretion to be specific, or indeed make the occasional log summary that does not suit individual taste.
 * I could understand if the summary was misleading, entirely unsuited to circumstance, outright silly as I admit to having done twice that I recall or an actual, citable error in Miraheze process, but so far I see none of those applying to what you take issue with, and to be quite honest this would not be the first time I've had to wonder what your grounds are for presenting the matter as a big deal especially in the opening post, implying delinquency in my global actions and taking a very stark position where hardly any issue has been raised or backed up with more substantive reasoning. I hope you can understand where I'm finding it difficult to see the point here. --Raidarr (talk) 01:11, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The log summary was not terrible in terms of trying to inflect humour into the log summary. That being said, I do agree a bit in that it's better for global block log summaries, opaqueness is actually preferred here. Users will invariably infer, correctly or incorrectly, based on timestamps of when you add the  bit and globally blocked an IP address, but actually specifying accounts, notwithstanding spambot accounts, explicitly is potentially making that public link too explicit. In this case, I would just specify what the issue is (i.e., "crosswiki abuse" in this case is correct). You could optionally link to some sort of IP address database, if it's a compromised IP, a VPN, a web host, or some or some other problematic IP, as that's totally fine. Dmehus (talk) 03:13, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This contains the necessary specificity, background experience and context for me to derive useful conduct results from. Thank you. --Raidarr (talk) 09:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Request for adoption
Hi, I'm new here in Miraheze. I just want to adopt this wiki: https://solace.miraheze.org but there are no respond on my request at the request for reopening wikis page. Thank you. --IAmCauseStillYou (talk) 06:07, 1 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there. Apologies for the delay. A Steward will get to it soon, have no doubt about that. Requests for wiki reopenings generally take a few days to process but are given response. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:15, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I was actually interested in the reason for the request. Note that adoption isn't necessarily a formal process on Miraheze; I have an essay on how it would work, and if you would like a full adoption (including permissions) that's a good page to look at. It says it's incomplete, but it's complete enough for this case.
 * It seems like solace was requested to build someone's worldbuilding ideas as a more personal project. Of course, that didn't get far. Nonetheless, despite not being private it is built to be private-ish in nature. I wonder what interests you about the wiki; the domain, the ideas, or were you associated in some way?
 * Either way if you are looking to develop your own ideas and if you were not associated with the project as requested, you're well within your rights to create another wiki since what you're looking at is both a bit shoehorned in premise (the work of a few select people) and very lacking in the first place (not much for you to build from anyway). Typically I would have asked this on the RfR page itself, but I can reference the outcome of this inquiry as well on that page. --Raidarr (talk) 09:18, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm interest on that wiki but I observed that there are only few pages and there are no enough information on every pages and I don't have problem to adopt a private-ish wiki. But if they reject my request, it's fine.
 * --IAmCauseStillYou (talk) 10:51, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , I'm afraid that does not really answer what your particular interest is in what appears to be someone else's project, when your request indicates you want to develop your own worldbuilding. It seems like it would be best to just request a wiki for your work if you are in no way associated with the wiki you wish to adopt, and doing so would be quite acceptable. --Raidarr (talk) 12:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi
How do I contribute? Water eater120 (talk) 21:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

become staff

 * Hi, please i can become chinese miraheze staff?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 09:46, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * What do you think 'chinese miraheze staff' is, exactly? Everyone who is in a position, has learned a fair amount about how the structure works first. --Raidarr (talk) 09:54, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Is can help use chinese version wiki user, deal with some Issues.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 09:58, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * What position exactly are you looking for, though? There is no 'miraheze staff' rank. You can otherwise help users of chinese version wikis as an ordinary user to a pretty wide extent. --Raidarr (talk) 10:00, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * i want to become staff, can you give me?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 10:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Please refer to the above comments. --Raidarr (talk) 10:05, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * so i can not becom staff?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 10:06, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Again, what do you think 'staff' is? It's not a position we have. See this. --Raidarr (talk) 10:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * yes, we are family, i want to become Global_Sysops, thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 10:11, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If you want to become a global sysop, you can make a request here. Be warned however - this position requires community vote, and your odds are not good. Frankly I would not support, though that doesn't mean that others wouldn't. --Raidarr (talk) 10:17, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ok, i can try it, thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 10:18, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank for your reply for harassment (Also, etc) problem. Even it replied long long later. Luckily you solved it in time. If not, the consequences will be unimaginable. You are a new but excellent steward. Thanks!


 * No trouble on following up, I wish I'd gotten to it sooner but had to confer with someone before tackling it first. --Raidarr (talk) 15:38, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Yo
Sorry mate for the vandalism Octahedron foundation last account (talk) 19:57, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The only contact or discussion that will be humored is by email to stewards@ per the terms as set, and the only conditions that will be humored via the associated SN request will be defined in response to the appeal at the minimum time. Creating accounts is not a valid way to demonstrate any cause for unlock. I expect no response to this via wiki, only via email to stewards@. Thank you. --Raidarr (talk) 20:25, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for quickly self-disclosing your incorrect sockpuppet creation. I had forgotten that I had implemented some underlying technical measures to align with the expected unlock date of 20 April 2022. With more contemporary events that did not, unfortunately, have that agreed to conditional unlock pan out, I have since ✅ this. As such, and perhaps was the reason for Raidarr noting in his global lock global lock log summary, the agreed to consideration of appeal date has not been extended by 1 day, in part, due to this oversight. Dmehus (talk) 03:12, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I need your help
You'll have to unblock me at Best TV Shows Wiki, Terrible TV Shows Wiki, Greatest Movies Wiki, Awful Movies Wiki, Awesome Games Wiki and Crappy Games Wiki. I was supposed to be nicer to these users at all six wikis. If I'm being unblocked, I would return to duty. Be a friend, okay? Just unblock me. Eric Bagwell (talk) 20:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * From what I understand and have been informed, you have been significantly disruptive, immature and unwilling to meaningfully change on multiple of the involved wikis (informally 'Qualitipedia'). I've been hearing about, thought not majorly involved in the issues for some time; though, I recall giving you a few chances myself. The decision to block you was made with the joint approval of the other two bureaucrats, plus general favor from others in the administration. In light of the long term issues I am at best uncomfortable with reversing the decision, especially now. I recommend you take some time off from the wikis and better your approach, and appeal later through the central Qualitpedia wiki where more users and network staff can weigh in. The minimum needed for an appeal is a clear idea of what went wrong and what's going to change with an unblock since I will not overturn it unilaterally. --Raidarr (talk) 21:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I just told you, I was supposed to be nicer. Just unblock me. Eric Bagwell (talk) 21:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You certainly can't command me to do it. If you were supposed to be nicer but weren't and it became a problem (and I know it has, since I'd seen it brought up several times in qp staff channels) then surely you see the issue. If you insist it was unjustified, should be changed and so on, then I recommend you make a thorough appeal on your talk page through the linked wiki where a discussion can be held properly and a decision can be reached. --Raidarr (talk) 21:23, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Look, I've created some pages about the TV networks at Best TV Shows Wiki, and I've created the page about Hyperion Animation Company, Inc. at Greatest Movies Wiki. I'm a good user at all six wikis, okay? Unblock me, please. Eric Bagwell (talk) 22:09, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Why DarkMatterMan4500 Still Not Unblocking Me at Best TV Shows Wiki, Terrible TV Shows Wiki, Greatest Movies Wiki, Awful Movies Wiki, Awesome Games Wiki and Crappy Games Wiki?
I was trying to tell DarkMatterMan4500 to unblock me, but he wouldn't listen. I'm supposed to be a good user at all six wikis. That's why, I need your help. You have to tell DarkMatterMan4500 about unblocking me at all six wikis. Eric Bagwell (talk) 17:47, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Refer to the above conversation. --Raidarr (talk) 18:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Refer? I was gonna tell you, about DarkMatterMan4500 unblocking me. Eric Bagwell (talk) 18:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * We've discussed it on both my talk page and his. Nothing has, nor with this approach will change. Please cease unless you have something new to state. --Raidarr (talk) 18:24, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Please, unblock me. I was telling you the truth about unblocking me. Eric Bagwell (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

why discriminate against me
My request to open a new wiki was rejected, and my request to adopt a defunct wiki was rejected. This shouldn't be a "patience is a virtue" issue, obviously miraheze is targeted cyberbullying. What did I do to be classified as "inadmissible and inconsiderate"? I don't remember what vandalism I did? If you hate me, just come straight and let everyone know that miraheze isn't a neutral and impartial wiki farm.--黑底屍 (talk) 13:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Please do not cast aspersions without having any solitary proof. There was no indication that he was even discriminating against you on your recent wiki requests which were declined for a reason. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:49, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not defaming, I'm not referring to a single administrator, but the miraheze as a whole.
 * Why is it that someone else wants to apply for a new wiki, and it's so easy to approve that I've been put on hold even if I explain a clear purpose?
 * I want to adopt a wiki that has ceased operation, and it also explains the operating policy and purpose, why is it also put on hold?
 * I'm sorry, but I can't understand why I need to be scrutinized for special treatment?
 * If miraheze does not welcome ordinary people to use it freely, and must be qualified, then I don't know what qualifications I must have?
 * Or maybe I just move my uncyclopedia out of here and find another friendly wiki farm.--黑底屍 (talk) 14:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Miraheze is a farm that works on volunteers who inevitably have a degree of bias and can never be completely neutral and impartial, though it tries. The practical reality is that there are two day-to-day stewards (among other roles each occupied with what they are volunteering for/their own lives), one of them being irregular and the other (me) being limited. The result is:
 * volunteers not always having the time or direct ability to resolve certain problems (I've been updated on the unbooks situation, expect a resolution not after the 8th at this point),
 * confusion when many things are attempted at once and the bigger picture is not being considered (ie, I was trying to get more information from you on the adoption request and did not decline it - you make it unclear which issue you want at a given time, are notoriously impatient when not getting your way and we seem to have a communication barrier in general per the reopen request),
 * Volunteers, yes, getting frustrated when the above are weaponized when they are attempting to do many things at once and need to follow the processes of the platform while coming to measured conclusions. You did not perform vandalism, but I would agree that the approach is inconsiderate.
 * Please respond to the queries made on the request for reopening. Please understand the reasons given when wiki requests are declined and address them as necessary. Please give in this case Doug some time to fully remediate the unbooks problem on which I'm only an observer brought in to lend an opinion, though I intend to handle it myself if it draws past the date I specified.
 * Claiming cyberbullying is hyperbolic and certainly does not make me more willing to work with you, and is clearly not the best you can do in getting what you want. I stand by all of the above to resolve when developments come, otherwise cannot do more for you in the meantime. If you want to move to another farm in light of this, it is your decision and I wish you luck. Doubly so since you seem to have an issue with all proceedings on the farm. Yes, Miraheze can often be inefficient, and this is a problem to address over time. But instant change will not happen and maybe Miraheze is simply not for you if you can find little you like. --Raidarr (talk) 14:06, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm no longer pressing the issue of unbooks disputes, I'm referring to new issues.
 * I'm adopting a defunct wiki, why has my request been put on hold?
 * All subsequent applications were approved, why was mine put on hold? Can you explain?


 * PS.
 * Please don't put uncyclopedia (伪基百科) on miraheze's hosting list.
 * Because I have to move out, the site here is going to be changed to a private sandbox and not open to the public.
 * So uncyclopedia is not one of miraheze's series of sites, thank you.--黑底屍 (talk) 14:25, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Well frankly, you never let me follow up with your response on the reopen on hold. There were oddities in your request that made me ask for background. 'sbs' is not a valid domain name to reopen - you haven't answered if you meant, which is a wiki dedicated to spongebob squarepants, or a different wiki, since   does not exist. The reopened wiki needs to be known, and any intended changes to its scope need to be made clear and approved.
 * The adoption page previously gave users admin/bureaucrat right + reopen if the wiki was abandoned without further notice and closed, per the Dormancy Policy. The process changed since then - it is to reopen wikis only, getting permissions and changing the wiki is another process.
 * Two of your wiki requests were declined. Both are trying to 'fork' the concept of the original unbooks. That is directly related to the dispute, and is addressed in the Content Policy. There must be sanction from a Steward (in this case, Doug is handling the dispute) for a fork to be made. Once addressed/approved the fork would be able to exist in peace and any issues resulting from content duplication would be understood. Plus, one request asked for the same domain name as a wiki that exists - that is never approved.
 * Both cases were unusual, the 'reopening' because it is completely unclear what you are trying to adopt/reopen and 'the request for wiki' because they related to an active dispute and one had a redundant domain name.
 * To clarify since there is a language barrier, do you mean to close the wikis you are operating, or something else? Except for here we don't have a special list. Special:WikiDiscover is just a catalogue of everything that exists. If you want your wikis to be removed once you get their XML dumps, that can be discussed/arranged.
 * 我会尝试使用翻译器，看看我们是否可以更好地沟通，特别是因为我正在谈论平台政策的细微差别. 这可以理解吗？ 如果是这样，我可以这样写以澄清上述内容或将来的答复. --Raidarr (talk) 15:09, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's a translation communication problem.
 * Because all my requests have been put on hold or rejected, which is already targeted.
 * I want to stop the previous disputes, and I don't want to force miraheze to change the decision to adopt. I start a new wiki, or adopt other wikis that have been abandoned and ceased operations, and propose improvement plans.
 * But no matter what solution I came up with, it was rejected or ignored. Am I making trouble unreasonably?--黑底屍 (talk) 07:17, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid at this point now you're just missing the responses I gave, elaborating what was wrong in each case.
 * I assure you that needing corrections, or there being discrepancies happens much more than you're doing credit for, it just seems inconvenient to acknowledge them here in favor of claiming targeted refusal. In this case and if you do not consider the above, I can do little for you here. --Raidarr (talk) 08:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about?
 * I've only seen my requests to add wikis or adopt defunct wikis, all being rejected and ignored.
 * And it's targeted.
 * Because everyone else's request was approved, only I rejected all of them.--黑底屍 (talk) 08:31, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ignoring all explanation on the first part, blatantly wrong on the second. I don't think there's anything else to be said or done here. --Raidarr (talk) 09:00, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem of unbooks is not that difficult to solve, as long as the original settings are restored, the adopters themselves are not capable of operating the website, so I can recruit competent assistant administrators to assist the operation of the website.
 * I also explained that I follow the Wikimedia Foundation model to set up and create wikis, and I can recruit assistant administrators to jointly run the wiki group without letting the site go to sleep.


 * I don't understand that my request is very simple and clear, why is it very complicated in your cognition and do not understand my intention?--黑底屍 (talk) 09:54, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem is that if a wiki is essentially abandoned for a long time (in the closure state), the Dormancy Policy applies. The (previously named) adoption process allowed someone more active to take on the wiki, and be able to develop it as they see fit. Today the process is split (reopen, and getting rights to operate are different). Regardless, this is how Matt gained at least equal footing. Where he screwed up was removing your rights as well. Though it is clear you weren't paying attention to the wiki, that is frowned upon and ideally the rights are shared.
 * But when the scope is essentially the same but what you think is relevant is different (from what it looks like he is more open and you have a tighter idea of what fits), you have two users on essentially equal footing bickering over what works. That is the problem. Wikis when requested are not owned by any individual, they are collaborative. If you want it otherwise it needs to be set up at the foundation. That doesn't seem to have happened.
 * Personally in light of the differences in operation I think it would be reasonable to sponsor the unlibrary split so you can make a wiki better fitting your ecosystem and matt can continue what he started. Doug, however, responded first. While I can override eventually if things aren't moving, I don't like to do that arbitrarily. That too is the problem. It's a decision we should both agree on before I just go ahead and make it happen.
 * Right now though the question is this, are you still trying to split or are you trying to move from Miraheze? It's pointless to sponsor a fork if, as you say above, you're just going to try and dip anyway. And I can do nothing about the reopen request when you don't provide valid information to begin with. --Raidarr (talk) 12:13, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You go see Matttest what he's doing at unbooks?
 * I admit that I neglected to take care of unbooks to the point of becoming a dormant site.
 * But Matttest doesn't do any constructive editing at all in unbooks, his eyes are entirely on uncyclopedia. So since he had no intention of being in unbooks, why did he adopt this website? He just simply wants to be the king of a website.


 * Currently uncyclopedia is set to be private, which is a permission item that miraheze's system allows administrators to set, and uncyclopedia has been my editor for a long time. I should have the right to share or not to share. I am not illegally tampering with Mediawiki like Matttest. And change the state of the website.


 * Matttest he wants to connect some users to complain to miraheze that I set the uncyclopedia private state, thereby asking miraheze to deprive me of administrator rights. Will miraheze accept this complaint?
 * I remember that miraheze does not interfere with the personnel issues of individual websites. Besides, I have also stated that I don't like the private state of miraheze's uncyclopedia. They can create a new website by themselves. I don't understand what they are obsessed with?
 * Other sites under my control have resumed constructive editing and won't make the mistake unbooks has long ignored.


 * As for the dispute over unbooks, I decided not to continue arguing. I will seek to open new websites of unbooks on other wiki farms as cross-site links. Other miraheze does not approve the newly added websites, and they will also be opened in different wiki farms. This should not cause miraheze's troubles.--黑底屍 (talk) 01:01, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * As you've made clear with attempted bypass and continue to make clear via other talk pages, Miraheze is not the platform for you as you are evidently unwilling to cooperate in this. I must go with the side that won't flake so easily, so I wish you well on the project discussed/hosted elsewhere. Let me know when things are ported over. Arguing about this subject won't go any further and that is a decision I'm making aside from Doug at this point. I'll follow up with Matt's role in the mess in the near future. --Raidarr (talk) 12:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, Miraheze is not mine, but I run uncyclopedia.
 * If Matttest adopted unbooks, he understood the theme of the unbooks website, and made constructive edits to expand the content of the website according to the theme of unbooks, I would not have such an objection.
 * But in fact Matttest not only does not understand the theme of the unbooks website, he also personally admits that he does not and does not understand how to constructively edit, he just wants to use the unbooks as a tool to further occupy the uncyclopedia. I have reminded this many times, but unfortunately we cannot communicate effectively due to the language barrier between us.
 * Since I can't communicate with each other effectively and correctly, I can only take other self-protection methods to end this farce.--黑底屍 (talk) 18:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation to this. I am looking forward for Stewards to resolve this issue soon and I am willing to cooperate with this. 黑底屍, if you have anything that you want to discuss with me, go to my talk page as I guess Raidarr don’t want his user talk page to be flooded with enormous messages. —Matttest (talk) 13:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * OK.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ok thanks, i can improve my community trust and deep involvement.thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:36, 14 May 2022 (UTC)