Stewards' noticeboard/Archive 22

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Batch of spambots from templatewiki

 * — Arcversin (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll make a point of focusing on this tomorrow. Thanks! Dmehus (talk) 01:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This also includes the list of spam-only accounts I've listed too. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll, with a view to finishing it, this weekend. Dmehus (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Relisted. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * — Arcversin (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll make a point of focusing on this tomorrow. Thanks! Dmehus (talk) 01:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This also includes the list of spam-only accounts I've listed too. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll, with a view to finishing it, this weekend. Dmehus (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Relisted. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * — Arcversin (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll make a point of focusing on this tomorrow. Thanks! Dmehus (talk) 01:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This also includes the list of spam-only accounts I've listed too. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll, with a view to finishing it, this weekend. Dmehus (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Relisted. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * — Arcversin (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll make a point of focusing on this tomorrow. Thanks! Dmehus (talk) 01:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This also includes the list of spam-only accounts I've listed too. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll, with a view to finishing it, this weekend. Dmehus (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Relisted. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * — Arcversin (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll make a point of focusing on this tomorrow. Thanks! Dmehus (talk) 01:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This also includes the list of spam-only accounts I've listed too. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll, with a view to finishing it, this weekend. Dmehus (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Relisted. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * — Arcversin (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll make a point of focusing on this tomorrow. Thanks! Dmehus (talk) 01:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This also includes the list of spam-only accounts I've listed too. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll, with a view to finishing it, this weekend. Dmehus (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Relisted. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Relisted. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Reception Wikis' mods
Hi Stewards. I'm having a... problem with the mods of the Reception Wikis.

Ever since I added the Lion King sequels to the Awful Movies Wiki, it has been the subject of drama. The users were upset that I've added them there, even asking for them to be added to the Greatest Movies Wiki. I have constantly defended my decisions, telling them that the positive reception of a movie doesn't determine whether it is actually good or bad.

Shrek Forever After got criticism when it came out back in 2010, but I saw how good of a movie it actually is, as such, I've made a sandbox listing the positives and gained support from others, and upon completion it was added to the Greatest Movies Wiki.

Furthermore, their logic isn't how film criticisms and reviews even work in the first place. If it did, here's how reviews would work instead: "Despite the massive, massive amount of flaws and the fact that there are so little good things about it, This Movie: The Movie is a good movie merely because of the positive reviews".

For further elaboration, I recommend reading my... thing, where I call out the mods' BS. Over, and out!

FreezingTNT (talk) 20:16, 26 June 2021 (UTC)


 * First of all, I know critics aren't always a good source for reviews, but they should be still trusted for the most part, unless there's controversy regarding the movie. Plus, if you want the Lion King sequels to be on AMW, community consensus would be needed as the movie received positive reviews. The Last Jedi deserves to be on AMW due to the negative reviews from the audience, but it's still considered an average movie. If you promise to not do this again, I can readd your administrator privileges. —Mario Mario 456 23:49, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Can't we all just agree that not all well-liked media are going to have a well-received reception? Like what MarioMario456 has explained to you, I am only here to add to this stepping stone: We need to have a community consensus by us administrators and other editors instead of pointlessly saying that we're adding these "well-liked movies" to negative Reception wikis. We are fully aware that there's no such thing as a perfect movie or any type of media, as they are bound to have flaws that are to be ironed out. Thanks for reading this message, and I hope you take this into consideration. This noticeboard should only be for reporting or other enquiries that requires assistance, not petty drama that could easily be squashed anyways. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:04, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Procedural point of clarification: You don't need to have community consensus to add a page to Greatest Movies Wiki. What should be decided by the community is things like the scope of the wiki and style guidelines for pages. If the community decides that users may add their own pages to the wiki based on a community-defined criteria, that's absolutely fine. Dmehus (talk) 02:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

What are you guys going to do about Sponge's edits to the Lion King sequels' articles? I pointed out valid flaws there. FreezingTNT (talk) 01:16, 27 June 2021 (UTC)


 * FreezingTNT does have a point guys. The existence of controversial pages has been a concern of mine. And yes, I do agree with FreezingTNT that there should be community consensus when dealing with particularly controversial pages. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:14, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I think this means that there should be in-between wikis. Okay Movies Wiki exists on FANDOM, we could fork it here. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:16, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Speaking of this, has anyone gotten in touch with Trevor on Discord? To try and get his permission?


 * Awful Movies Wiki - Greatest Movies Wiki - Okay Movies Wiki
 * Crappy Games Wiki - Awesome Games Wiki - Fine Games Wiki
 * Terrible Shows & Episodes Wiki - Best Shows & Episodes Wiki - Tolerable Shows & Episodes Wiki
 * Rotten Websites Wiki - Fresh Websites Wiki - Acceptable Websites Wiki
 * Dreadful Literature Wiki - Magnificent Literature Wiki - Competent Literature Wiki
 * Horrible Music & Songs Wiki - Delightful Music & Songs Wiki - Moderate Music & Songs Wiki
 * Loathsome Characters Wiki - Incredibles Characters Wiki - Passable Characters Wiki

FreezingTNT (talk) 02:13, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Neutral wikis would be dead anyway, because they were dead before. —Mario Mario 456 02:48, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Then what do we do with stuff like the Lion King sequels?

FreezingTNT (talk) 17:36, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


 * They're good movies. There's a reason why they're called the Reception Wikis and not the Opinion Wikis. —Mario Mario 456 01:48, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

My pointers about the flaws aren't opinions, they're legitimate criticisms of the movies. I posted a plan here before being demoted.

EDIT: Also, a while back I proposed re-naming the Reception Wikis to the Review Wikis.

FreezingTNT (talk) 15:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, they are. The movies got good reviews, both from critics and audiences. So now shut up. —Mario Mario 456 17:02, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Ah, yes, plot holes (of all things) and contrivances and rip-offs and unlikable characters and continuity errors and inferior animation are all totally opinions.

FreezingTNT (talk) 23:32, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh dear, more drama. Look I feel like dead or not, neutral reception wikis would be a good idea. Also FreezingTNT, demoted or not, is still in charge of the rebrand since he came up with the idea first. Since I also think that movies with positive reception should be on GMW, I would think that creating neutral wikis would be our best bet. It doesn't even have to be a part of Qualitipedia, it can be somethting separate altogether, like my Weirdness Network concept currently is (Absurd Shows & Episodes Wiki is a part of the future network). Also, there are a lot of movies with mixed or negative reception on GMW, such as The Lego Ninjago Movie, Star Trek The Motion Picture, and The Black Cauldron, to name a few. Not to start drama, but neutral wikis should be considered. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's best we not allow anymore replies here from here on out. Let's move on. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:25, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Request the deletion of these wikis

 * hispano76.miraheze.org
 * hispano76privado.miraheze.org
 * hispano76data.miraheze.org
 * ucronias.miraheze.org
 * ucronidata.miraheze.org

Due to some bugs noticed and I would like to restart my projects from scratch to reorganize my projects in the hope that I can continue editing them with more planning. I already have a backup of the existing content and therefore it can be deleted without any problems. Hispano76 (talk) 00:08, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hispano76 ✅ per your above request and reasoning. Note that the databases have not yet been dropped, so if you are wanting to recreate them sooner than approximately two weeks from now, you will need to request Site Reliability Engineering force through the databases being dropped earlier than that. This can be done, typically, with a Phabricator request, or you can just direct message Reception123. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 14:15, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * could you please delete my wikis? with those errors, there is no point in adding content.... --Hispano76 (talk) 17:29, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hispano76 ✅ (#1 and #2. Dmehus (talk) 13:38, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Delete my wiki and account, please
Please delete my wiki and this account as well. I've had a little too much time on my hands lately and wanted to save the world, but there are things closer to home I need to focus on.

Thank you PatternProjects (talk) 09:24, 6 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Which wiki is it? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * PatternProjects I agree with DarkMatterMan4500 above that you should have specified the exact wiki you wanted deleted. In this case, though, since you have only requested one wiki and are a  on that same wiki, it's obvious, so this has been ✅. As an aside, I personally wouldn't have approved that wiki, as written, as a wiki creator as with that topic, I'd want to know more details, specifically and exactly, as to the content of that wiki. Dmehus (talk) 13:44, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Can you remove this wiki on the wikis I visited list?
When I was search wikis I accidentally clicked on this wiki and want this out of the list of visited wikis because it would make me look bad. It's called cumclicker.miraheze.org can you remove it of of the visited wikis, https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Gilimaster69

what would be great Gilimaster69 (talk) 02:39, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello! Unfortunately, because of the way the login system (CentralAuth) is designed, you cannot unattach your account once its been attached to a wiki. Sorry for the inconvenience. Agent Isai (talk) 02:43, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh it's ok Gilimaster69 (talk) 15:52, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Please lock this account
Yes, please lock this, as this is just another test account. Test example (talk) 17:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Test example ✅. Dmehus (talk) 03:26, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

CheckUser request for the following accounts on the :

 * JewishBlayer
 * JewishPlayerIsAPedophile
 * DarkMatterManIsAPedophile
 * DarkMatterManMolestsBoys
 * DarkMatterManIsBrentonTarrant

Could a Steward perform a CheckUser on all 5 of them as they appear to be targeting both me and JewishPlayer, and the latter 2 on the bottom is clearly targeting me, and why does that sound so familiar? Well, anyway, they all need to be checked, although JewishPlayerIsAPedophile, DarkMatterManMolestsBoys and DarkMatterManIsBrentonTarrant (2 of which are highly inappropriate account names, and contains libel on both of them) have been globally locked, I still think they need to be checked as soon as possible. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The latter four accounts are particularly concerning and egregious. I'll lock and hide those for now and investigate at least the latter three tonight, given the obvious username similarity and likely relation. Dmehus (talk) 13:30, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Reception123 already locked. Dmehus (talk) 13:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for reverting, but I think you can just focus on this one first. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:41, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ and other measures enacted. Dmehus (talk) 03:23, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and welcome back. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 09:34, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Global lock for

 * Lock evasion . They created the article mh:Gyaanipedia:Farhan Rana Rajpoot on Gyaanipedia as a part of their self promotion. ~ Mazzaz (talk) 09:26, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Reception123. However, they made another account to evade that lock, which I have requested him to lock for lock evasion/abusing multiple accounts. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * And that account has been ✅ for lock evasion. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:57, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't believe a lock was necessary here, and am unsure why Reception123 locked the user for what was really a very, very soft form of spam. We typically only lock automated or mass controlled spam only accounts/spambots. Given that the Gyaanipedia, Famepedia, and similar wikis are proliferated with self-promotional users creating user pages to promote their acting or singing careers, I don't believe we should be locking one user and not the others. That being said, I can appreciate the approach Reception123 took as it was entirely in good-faith but definitely very much an edge case, at best, as I had a similar recent case on Miraheze Commons where I contemplated whether the warning of a potential global lock would be appropriate, but ultimately decided that a warning of a local block would be appropriate. As such, I would kindly ask that Reception123 revert his global locks, and instead ask local administration (notably Mazzaz or even yours truly, in the case of Famepedia) to implement any local blocks as may be required. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 02:33, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The issue was that they massively advertised it on the Miraheze Commons Wiki and even here on Meta, which doesn't allow self-promotion at all. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:17, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, still, as I say, pages can be creation protected at  and the user can be locally blocked in that event. Dmehus (talk) 13:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yep. ✅ DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:30, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yep. ✅ DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:30, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

VisualEditor not working on my end
Over the past month or so, VisualEditor has pretty much stopped working for me. On DifferentHistory Wiki, it's enabled in extensions, and yet it's not possible to use on my end. As an administrator of the wiki, I tried fiddling with the settings to get it to work, but nothing. Even weirder, fellow administrator (and wiki founder) Trevor807 has been using it without issue.

On other wikis (I've only really tried the Reception Wikis), the option to use the VisualEditor is present, but I get the same error message every time: "Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500)".

The weirdest part is that, when opening this very page in VisualEditor, it worked fine.

I have absolutely NO idea what's going on here. BNSF1995 (talk) 04:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I've used VisualEditor on over 6 wikis without a problem, it does appear to be an issue on your end. I suggest maybe clearing your cache. If you have an AdBlocker, temporarily disable it to see if that's the issue. Additionally, make sure your browser is on the latest version. If all else fails, try clearing your cookies. Thanks! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 15:16, 9 July 2021 (UTC)