Requests for reopening wikis

publictransport.miraheze.org
General I80 (talk) 01:51, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: publictransport.miraheze.org
 * Username: General I80
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no):
 * Reason: I see that this wiki is not in use, and I feel like rebooting it.
 * Thank you for your request for adoption. A steward should review your request in the next week or two, and re-open the wiki. At that point, you will have at least a week to constructively contribute to the temporarily reopened wiki, so that a steward can assess your adoption request and, if satisfied, grant you  rights on the wiki. Dmehus (talk) 03:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, the wiki has now been reopened. -- Void  Whispers 01:58, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to get back to this, is there still interest in this request? -- Void  Whispers 22:04, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I'm closing this as ❌ as looking at contributions on the local wiki, I see only two (2) edits, creating two sub-stub pages consisting of a single sentence each. Thus, I'm not satisfied with the activity on the wiki to date. Please reply to this thread if it hasn't been archived yet if there's still interest in adoption; otherwise, feel free to submit a new request. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

katamarilyrics.miraheze.org
TouhouForever (talk) 23:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: katamarilyrics.miraheze.org
 * Username: TouhouForever
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: I want to keep this wiki alive.
 * Thank you for your valid adoption request. A steward will review your request within the next week or so, after which they will reopen the wiki, allowing you to contribute constructively for one or more weeks. Within several weeks, they will review your contributions, and grant you  rights on the local wiki if successful. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 23:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The wiki has now been reopened. -- Void  Whispers 02:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to get back to this. Is there still an interest in this request? -- Void  Whispers 22:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I'm closing this as ❌ as looking at contributions on the local wiki, I see only one (1) edit, creating a single category page. Thus, I'm not satisfied with the activity on the wiki to date. Please reply to this thread if it hasn't been archived yet if there's still interest in adoption; otherwise, feel free to submit a new request. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:04, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

geopolitik.miraheze.org
Isle (talk) 19:48, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: geopolitik.miraheze.org
 * Username: Isle
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No.
 * Reason: The person who made this wiki is no longer affiliated with the wiki and has stepped down. We are starting it back up again and would like to get it adopted
 * First, thank you for your adoption request. However, it was somewhat malformed. Please note that the Miraheze subdomain, not the custom domain should be used for adoption requests, and, additionally, there is no need to add an additional section header. Second, regarding your request, thank you for your valid adoption request, assuming this was the intended wiki. A steward will review your request within the next week or so, after which they will reopen the wiki, allowing you to contribute constructively for one or more weeks. Within several weeks, they will review your contributions, and grant you  rights on the local wiki if successful.  If that was not the correct wiki, please do advise of the correct wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 20:07, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The wiki has been reopened. -- Void  Whispers 02:04, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * (not sure which of you to ping). Is there still an interest in this request? -- Void  Whispers 22:10, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 06:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

goodsoftware.miraheze.org
Ice cake 2543 (talk) 02:43, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: goodsoftware.miraheze.org
 * Username: Ice cake 2543
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: The reason why I want to adopt the wiki is because I think it has a bright future and I will take good care of it and try to promote the wiki as well. I also make to make a page on this wiki. I hope you understand and let me save this wiki thanks
 * This request seems fine to me. A steward should review your request in the next 2-3 weeks, reopen the wiki, allowing you to contribute constructively for at least one week, and then assess your contributions to the wiki and grant rights if successful. Dmehus (talk) 14:01, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have the ability to wait 2-3 weeks Let me know if the wiki is reopened thanks :) Ice cake 2543 (talk) 21:25, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have the ability to wait 2-3 weeks Let me know if the wiki is reopened thanks :) Ice cake 2543 (talk) 21:26, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * There the a glitch that caused the same message to be sent twice sorry about that Ice cake 2543 (talk) 21:27, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅! I have struck your duplicate message. Thanks for the head's up. Dmehus (talk) 22:19, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to get to your request. The wiki has now been reopened. -- Void  Whispers 22:13, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * So I did some edits and there is this message, so are stewards on this wiki? The message says pending review my edit is sent to moderation so are you one of the mods? Ice cake 2543 (talk) 00:23, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I feel like it is something I should know because I am thinking about making a new page for this wiki Ice cake 2543 (talk) 00:27, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, it looks like that wiki is using Extension:Moderation, so if there are no active bureaucrats, a steward will have to either (a) disable the extension, (b) approve your edits, which would be quite tedious, or (c) add you to the  group. I will ping  to this thread to decide on which course of action to take, since you do need to be able to edit the wiki in order to have your adoption request assessed. I personally would probably favour either of option A or option C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmehus (talk • contribs) 01:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm giving the benefit of the doubt here and just adding the automoderated and moderator groups. This makes it possible for the user to be able to contribute to the wiki, and also allow others to contribute. Just be sure to keep an eye on goodsoftware:Special:Moderation. -- Void  Whispers 01:40, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and thanks for adding unsigned for what is, quite likely, my first unsigned post. I'm not sure if you were directing the last sentence to Ice cake 2543 or to both of us, but if the latter, that special page isn't viewable to me. Dmehus (talk) 01:47, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 06:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Related discussion moved from wrong section
 * Thank you Ice cake 2543 (talk) 22:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wait I tried to edit and it says to wait to be approved by mods does it mean the mod for this wiki because I am not sure if they are active Ice cake 2543 (talk) 23:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, it looks like that wiki is using Extension:Moderation, so if there are no active bureaucrats, a steward will have to either (a) disable the extension, (b) approve your edits, which would be quite tedious, or (c) add you to the  group. I will ping  to this thread to decide on which course of action to take, since you do need to be able to edit the wiki in order to have your adoption request assessed. I personally would probably favour either of option A or option C. Dmehus (talk) 01:15, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm? This appears to be the wrong section? The wiki listed here (minecraftwiki) does not have any mechanisms in place to hold edits for review. -- Void  Whispers 01:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Good point. I was a bit confused as I noticed replied to you thanking you, and yet RealKnockout was the user that requested adopting this wiki. So perhaps it's just the other wiki then. Dmehus (talk) 01:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It is the other wiki I mixed up this section with the good software section I think the Extension moderation should be gone which is why I chose option A Ice cake 2543 (talk) 02:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry of the confusion Ice cake 2543 (talk) 02:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, well once your adoption request is successful and you have  rights, you can choose to disable the Moderation extension, if you wish. In the meantime, Void has added   for you on the wiki while you edit. You can also moderate others' edits on the wiki using the above special page. Dmehus (talk) 03:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

openanarchywiki.miraheze.org
Thanks LJKMagic (talk) 09:24, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: openanarchywiki.miraheze.org
 * Username: LJKMagic
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no):
 * Reason: I would like to adopt this wiki, I play on the MC server that the wiki is talking about and I would like to revive the wiki.
 * I did one last time but i forgot i sent it LJKMagic (talk) 09:26, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This request seems fine to me. A steward should review your request in the next 2-3 weeks, reopen the wiki, allowing you to contribute constructively for at least one week, and then assess your contributions to the wiki and grant rights if successful. Dmehus (talk) 14:02, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay in getting to this. The wiki has now been reopened. -- Void  Whispers 22:15, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 06:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

4b4t.miraheze.org

 * Wiki: 4b4t.miraheze.org
 * Username: Naughtasulawesi
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No I am not
 * Reason: The wiki is eligible for adoption at https://4b4t.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page/

Naughtasulawesi (talk) 17:09, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This request seems fine to me. A steward should review your request in the next 2-3 weeks, reopen the wiki, allowing you to contribute constructively for at least one week, and then assess your contributions to the wiki and grant rights if successful. Dmehus (talk) 17:34, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder! @Dmehus Thanks for the reminder! ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naughtasulawesi (talk • contribs) 20:53, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. The wiki has now been reopened. -- Void  Whispers 22:16, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 06:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

minecraft.miraheze.org
RealKnockout (talk) 22:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: minecraft.miraheze.org
 * Username: RealKnockout
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: The wiki is closed and has no admin, I would like to revive it and import pages to it, and eventually gain adminship on it.
 * This request seems fine to me, as this wiki was not manually closed, and I couldn't find any recent changes in the past 60 days. A steward should review your request in the next 2-3 weeks, reopen the wiki, allowing you to contribute constructively for at least one week, and then assess your contributions to the wiki and grant rights if successful. Dmehus (talk) 22:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks! RealKnockout (talk) 17:29, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, the wiki has now been reopened. -- Void  Whispers 22:18, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 06:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

2020.miraheze.org
Justarandomliberal (talk) 09:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: 2020.miraheze.org
 * Username: Justarandomliberal
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): no
 * Reason: This is a wiki dedicated to an interesting year, to say the least, and I would like to maintain it.
 * Interesting and good choice for a wiki to adopt, given the circumstances and events of 2020. This request seems fine to me, as this wiki was not manually closed, and I couldn't find any recent changes in the past 60 days. A steward should review your request in the next 2-3 weeks (quite possibly sooner), reopen the wiki, allowing you to contribute constructively for at least one week, and then assess your contributions to the wiki and grant rights if successful. Dmehus (talk) 16:07, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This ✅ as the wiki was not manually closed by a local, so the wiki has been reopened for you to contribute actively over the next week or two, after which a steward will assess your activity and conclude this request accordingly. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 01:25, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

foss.miraheze.org
R4356th (talk) 12:42, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: foss.miraheze.org
 * Username: R4356th
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: I am a big fan of open source and would like to add content to this wiki. It currently one has one page (which is Main Page).
 * This ✅ as the wiki was not manually closed by a local, so the wiki has been reopened for you to contribute actively over the next week or two, after which a steward will assess your activity and conclude this request accordingly. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for both this one and the following request! R4356th (talk) 16:38, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

womenintech.miraheze.org
R4356th (talk) 12:46, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: womenintech.miraheze.org
 * Username: R4356th
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: I am a feminist and would love to add content to this wiki. It does not have any page without Main Page (which has never even been edited) at the moment.
 * This ✅ also, as the wiki was not manually closed by a local  (indeed, it was barely even edited, if at all). Though a user should not request to adopt every wiki, as far as I'm aware, you have not successfully adopted any wiki yet. Plus, since this and the above wiki are related, broadly, to the topic of free and open source software for which this wiki will include a focus on women software programmers, it would make sense for you to potentially adopt and build out both wikis, so the wiki has been reopened for you to contribute actively over the next week or two, after which a steward will assess your activity and conclude this request accordingly. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This wiki has apparently not been opened yet. R4356th (talk) 21:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Never mind. It appears to be a technical issue. I will report this on Discord. R4356th (talk) 21:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks to Void. R4356th (talk) 22:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

terrifictvnetworks.miraheze.org
Waldo (talk) 01:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: terrifictvnetworks.miraheze.org
 * Username: Waldo
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: I think people may find this wiki good, so I think reopening it to be fine. I intend to be active in editing it.
 * The wiki has been reopened for you to actively contribute to the wiki over the next two weeks, after which a steward will assess your activity level quantitatively and qualitatively and grant rights if successful. Please make sure you make an edit on this wiki within the next hour or two, otherwise I will need to make an edit to prevent the wiki from being reclosed the next time the inactivity script is run. As a reminder, too, that per Dormancy Policy, you should not adopt every wiki, but seeing as this would only be your second adopted wiki because this would be a sister or brother wiki to your recently adopted wiki, it should be fine. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 01:43, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

llengobalear.miraheze.org
I have been quite busy recently but now I have more time to dedicate to this wiki. Chabi (talk) 12:00, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: llengobalear.miraheze.org
 * Username: Chabi
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): YES
 * Reason:
 * Hello, you can go to Special:ManageWiki on your wiki to reopen this wiki by unchecking "Closed" yourself since you are a bureaucrat. I hope this helps. Thank you. R4356th (talk) 12:10, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please advise when you have gone back into ManageWiki and unchecked the closed box. While I can do this for you as a steward, as it is clearly a request from the local wiki to do so, I believe that it is better to give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime, and have you do it, so you will know how to do this in the future. Dmehus (talk) 15:33, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki has been reopened locally by Chabi. Therfore, I will mark this as ✅. HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 13:40, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

railrover.miraheze.org
Alex40138 (talk) 17:33, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: railrover.miraheze.org
 * Username: Alex40138
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: To take ownership of Wiki to prevent deletion
 * This ✅ as the wiki was not manually closed by a local, so the wiki has been reopened for you to contribute actively over the next week or two, after which a steward will assess your activity and conclude this request accordingly. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:06, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

templates.miraheze.org
Zcook1052 (talk) 19:20, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: templates.miraheze.org
 * Username: Zcook1052
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: Want to change some things of organization of the wiki and also fix links, categories, etc.


 * There is no wiki at templates.miraheze.org. Did you mean template.miraheze.org? R4356th (talk) 19:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * As R4356th articulated above, this wiki does not exist. If you mean Miraheze Template Wiki, this wiki is ineligible for adoption as it has been exempted to the policy as one of the main Miraheze community wikis. If there's a specific thing you need, please let me know on my local user talk page on that wiki. If it's a matter of needing a specific user right added to a minor local user group that can be granted, that can likely be undertaken in one of my local capacities. Dmehus (talk) 19:53, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

rainwatercollab.miraheze.org

 * Wiki: rainwatercollab.miraheze.org
 * Username: Ianvangiesen
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): yes
 * Reason: Attempting to revive my own wiki-page, with hopes of making this somewhat of a companion to the wikiversity section on rainwater harvesting I am also working on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ianvangiesen (talk • contribs) 20:36, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, it looks like you have locally reopened the wiki so I have changed this request's status to "Locally handled". You can do this on any wiki you are a bureaucrat on. Thank you. R4356th (talk) 20:52, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If your wiki has a sufficient number of content pages, and on looking at Special:AllPages on your wiki, it appears that it does, and you have a need for an exemption to Dormancy Policy, you can make a request at Stewards' noticeboard, and a Steward will review your request (usually fairly quickly) and action it accordingly. Dmehus (talk) 21:42, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

template.miraheze.org
This is the right wiki (template.miraheze.org). Zcook1052 (talk) 23:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: template.miraheze.org
 * Username: Zcook1052
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): no
 * Reason: Want to change some things of organization of the wiki and also fix links, categories, etc.


 * Right, and I get that, but as in my comments above, this cannot be undertaken as the wiki is (a) not closed per Dormancy Policy and (b) not eligible for adoption. I invite you instead to message me either (a) here or (b) here on what it is you're looking to do specifically on Miraheze Template Wiki. If it's a matter of needing to move pages or templates without leaving a redirect or import templates, I can grant you local permissions in my local capacities. Dmehus (talk) 23:19, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

ideawiki.miraheze.org
Jigsaw Vernon (talk) 05:03, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: ideawiki.miraheze.org
 * Username: Jigsaw Vernon
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): Yes
 * Reason: I am the creator of the wiki and I want to open it again
 * There is no need to adopt this wiki as you are a  on this wiki. Please go into Special:ManageWiki on your wiki, uncheck "closed," and hit "submit," entering an optional summary. When done, return to requests for adoption, and update me here that it is been reopened, so I can update the status. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 05:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I already reopened it, thanks for the help Jigsaw Vernon (talk) 15:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, and that's ✅ to hear. Dmehus (talk) 15:42, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

spectrobes.miraheze.org
Dominic DeVito (talk) 14:08, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Wiki: Spectrobes.miraheze.org
 * Username: Dominic DeVito
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no):
 * Reason:
 * please complete the request format or else this won’t be done. Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 14:39, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * While I agree with Zppix above that you should've also completed this adoption request for procedural expediency and efficiency, it would be rather bureaucratic to decline this request on that basis alone. As such, this ✅ as the wiki was not manually closed by a local bureaucrat, so the wiki has been reopened for you to contribute actively over the next week or two, after which a Steward will assess your activity and conclude this request accordingly. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:04, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I should of worded it better... i meant like for it to come off as a possibility. Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 16:33, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Relisted to prevent archiving. Aim to handle this in the next week. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

franchise.miraheze.org
Akryvonos (talk) 11:47, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Wiki: franchise.miraheze.org
 * Username: Akryvonos
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): NO
 * Reason: we do not have time to make changes in time, sorry


 * Hi, you are bureaucrat on this wiki so you can reopen it by visiting Special:ManageWiki on your wiki. HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 13:07, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

crappypasta.miraheze.org
Tali64³ (talk) 16:07, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Wiki: crappypasta.miraheze.org
 * Username: Tali64³
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): no
 * Reason: The founder of the wiki hasn't made a single contribution to it, and I want to start it up.
 * ❌ Wiki is opened, you should engage a local election if you need rights HeartsDo (Talk / Global / Wiki Creator) 17:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * As HeartsDo mentioned above, I'll just add the following helpful instructions. Since it seems like this wiki has no active bureaucrats, I would recommend you hold a local election, taking care to take into account the local wiki's permissions elections policies. Assuming your wiki has no local permissions request policies or other election rules, you would follow global customs and conventions for such requests, which see you create an election page on that wiki, on a prominent page, stating the number and type of position(s) you're running for (i.e., administrator, bureaucrat), the name(s) of the candidate(s) running, how long the election shall run for (best practice for 5-7 calendar days), the minimum support ratio required for a successful election, and whether an election can be declared successful after the minimum timeframe if no one expresses a view (i.e., election by acclamation). Once your process has concluded (recommended to last for at least 5-7 calendar days), return to stewards' noticeboard and, in a new thread, state the wiki address, local location of the election, and a steward will assess your local election in absence of a local bureaucrat. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * There aren't any active users on the wiki, other than me. Tali64³ (talk) 20:33, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, can you create a local election page on the wiki, like this one? Leave it open for at least seven (7) calendar days, then report your local election to Stewards via Stewards' noticeboard and, after several more days, it can be closed by a Steward in absence of a locally active bureaucrat. Dmehus (talk) 21:27, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

toxicfandomsandhatedoms.miraheze.org
Imperator Maximajorian (talk) 17:29, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Wiki: toxicfandomsandhatedoms.miraheze.org
 * Username: Imperator Maximajorian
 * Are you a bureaucrat? (yes/no): No
 * Reason: I would like to please adopt the Toxic Fandoms and Hatedoms Wiki so that I can keep it from slipping into the ether.