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Mywikipedia
Need more contributors for mywikipedia.miraheze.org. Who's interested? --Iron Sword 22 (talk) 19:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , what is it about? Flarehot (talk) 08:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's like wikipedia. Iron Sword 22 (talk) 13:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

A question
How do I make certain logs appear in recent changes? (Like avatar upload, abuse filter, and page creation) InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:05, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Not sure if it's on ManageWiki. If it isn't, ask on Miraheze Phabricator. — Mario Mario  456  15:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * AbuseFilter or AbuseLog will not be visible for recent changes. Anton (talk) 15:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel Abuse filter changes and abuse logs will not appear in RC, as far as I'm aware. I personally wish they did, but this would need an upstream Wikimedia Phabricator feature request. Page creation logs can be enabled in Special:ManageWiki on your wiki. Not completely sure about the avatar upload log, but this should also be possible as well. If not, you'd probably need to file an upstream Wikimedia Phabricator feature request for the SocialProfile extension. Dmehus (talk) 15:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * As for the abuse logs and abuse filter changes, you can just check Special:AbuseLog and Special:Log/abusefilter on-wiki on regular basis. Perhaps add it to your calendar as a recurring event item? Dmehus (talk) 15:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

CSS
Can anyone tell me what elements the tabs (Page, Discussion, Read, Edit, etc.) use in CSS, and how to color them? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 16:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * So you want to change the background color of the page or just some tabs/sections? Or do you mean what you see at the top of each page before the content starts (Project Page, Talk, Edit, Edit source, Move)? Anton (talk) 16:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The tabs. The ones that says edit, history, etc. I don't want them white, I want them to be colored as #A0522D InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. Then copy this code:
 * Thanks. Anton (talk) 18:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Doesn't work for some reason. This is what my MW:Common.css page looks like:
 * Is there something wrong with it? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Also the colons were added as a result of this reply. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * NVM, it works, but how do I (sorry) change the color of the link in the tabs? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:13, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete colons. It not works. What link you mean? Anton (talk) 19:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * When you click "edit", it's a link. The colons were because of the reply link, not the original page. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed those colons for you. Turtle84375 (talk) 20:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed those colons for you. Turtle84375 (talk) 20:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry
I would like to apologize for getting carried away.--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 22:58, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Iron Sword 23 ✅! Yeah, it's probably best if you post one thread promoting your wiki on community noticeboard, add your wiki to Gazetteer of wikis, then join us on IRC, ideally in but also, and Discord to ask for specific help on your wiki. As a helpful tip, rather than proposing to create an English Wikipedia fork wiki, why not propose to create a wiki on a topic of particular interest to you, and, ideally, one of interest to others? Since there's, well, English Wikipedia, it's very difficult to attract interest from other editors to an English Wikipedia fork wiki. Dmehus (talk) 23:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Wiki
Does a comic book template wiki sound interesting --Iron Sword 23 (talk) 23:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Iron Sword 23 It does, but it needs more detail. Do you mean comic book wiki templates, in  namespace for writing wiki comics? If not, what do you mean? Can you describe this in approximately 2-3 sentences? Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 23:21, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I just hope I don't get carried away with talk pages this time around. --Iron Sword 23 (talk) 01:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Iron Sword 23 I mean, you could try telling yourself that you won't discuss your wiki on other users' user talk pages on Meta Wiki, unless they specifically ask you about your wiki, of course? Dmehus (talk) 02:02, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Gadgets not working
On naasgamelandwiki, HotCat and Edittools don't work. I've copied and pasted them from other wikis that HotCat and Edittools work there, but doesn't work for naasgamelandwiki. InspecterAbdel (talk) 14:45, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I also notice that there is no gadgets section (in preferences) in my wiki, even though my other wiki (First Class Restaurants and Foods Wiki) has the gadgets section working fine. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you have local bureaucrat, go to Special:ManageWiki/extensions, install Gadgets, and go to MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition to add your gadget. — Mario Mario  456  16:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, and parser function tag. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Now it seems like it works, yet nothing happens when i click one of the buttons. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hola, InspecterAbdel.  funciona bien. Por lo menos aquí funciona correctamente: . Saludos cordiales. Hugo Ar (talk) 21:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Translated by Google Translator
 * Hello. InspecterAbdel,  works fine. At least here it works correctly: . Best regards. Hugo Ar (talk) 21:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work in my wiki. Just the buttons look like it works. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 16:23, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you have a CharInsert extension? Anton (talk) 16:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Anton They said they do above, but I haven't checked it to be sure. Dmehus (talk) 17:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. I can't check it because access to the wiki is restricted. Anton (talk) 17:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel. Activate the charinsert extension. In your wiki you should go to  →   →   Hugo Ar (talk) 17:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I already did that. But Charinsert only makes buttons that don't do anything. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel. On the page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CharInsert it says:
 * These links are usually used in MediaWiki:Edittools (example on this wiki) system message.
 * Use group, even setting an expiry date if you wish, without needing to change your wiki from a private wiki to a public wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Done, Again, sorry for the delay. IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 18:17, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * A template "Template:Infobox monarchy" does not exist in your wiki --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 22:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It was deleted. IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 12:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Is the problem still present? How could anyone analyze the problem when the template has been deleted? Pls open a new thread with an exact description of the problem thank you --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki

Wiki Ideas?
Hey all, I'd like to start a public wiki, as a balance-out to my current private wiki (it doesn't have to have anything to do with TurtleWiki though), but I thought I'd get your guys' ideas for what would be a common interest that people would actually enjoy editing on. I tried with a previous public wiki, but it didn't really hit off, so I've closed it and will likely let it go dormant, but I still want to experience both ends in terms of running a wiki. So, any topic/scope ideas? Thanks, much appreciated! Turtle84375 (talk) 04:20, 7 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Do you use scratch? Maybe Scratchwiki is a good idea (scratch.miraheze.org) InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:13, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the only problem with that is that Scratch already has its own wiki lol, but I do have an account. Turtle84375 (talk) 17:36, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That wiki is bad. We can make a better one here on Miraheze. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 17:43, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I just don't want it to seem like it's a content fork. Turtle84375 (talk) 17:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm curious, how is it bad? Turtle84375 (talk) 17:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The pages seem to praise the scratch team, and the pages about the moderation seem to defend themselves, making an account there is very hard (I tried before), It has a bad layout, and the april fools pages are not funny. (I haven't been there in a while, since June 2020, but I didn't like the wiki) InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:09, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well... yeah, they're trying to keep their spotless reputation intact, not an easy thing to do in the digital world for as long as they have, so they (unfortunatly) have to control, control, control. I'm just concerned that making a new Scratch Wiki could potentially cause some conflict/would be essentially a fork. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe a source wiki, like GitHub? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:27, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That might be interesting. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:46, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Wiki
What wiki ideas should I come up with in the future?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 15:18, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Copyright Trolls on All The Tropes
This is a general heads-up to the Miraheze Community. According to Matomo Analytics, All The Tropes has been visited multiple times in the last week-plus by Higbee & Associates, a noted "copyright troll". Although we're certainly the largest target, there's no reason to assume we are the only wiki at Miraheze they have visited or plan to visit. You may want to ensure that your content is not likely to net you a "pay up or else" letter from them. Looney Toons (talk) 18:12, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Why am I not the bureaucrat and admin of my own wiki?
Hi, I made a wiki called New Super Mario Bros. 2 and it says I'm not a bureaucrat or admin. How come? -Zai- (talk) 18:16, 7 May 2021 (UTC)


 * -Zai- This is likely due to a persistent bug when usernames begin with a hyphen, the CreateWiki extension is not able to grant  and   permissions, as it's happened on more than one occasion prior to this with the exact same circumstances. Anyway, this is now ✅. Universal Omega, please make sure you are checking the requesting user's CentralAuth after wikis are created, so we can catch instances like this and make the appropriate request to Stewards to manually grant the user rights. I do try and patrol the farmer log, but hadn't yet reviewed the last several wiki creations. Dmehus (talk) 18:25, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * -Zai- To add to what I said above, I would personally strongly recommend you request a global rename, to remove the problematic initial hyphen character from your username, otherwise you will continue to experience technical issues with the MediaWiki software on Miraheze. Dmehus (talk) 18:26, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

The Monaco Skin
Why doesn't Miraheze have the Monaco skin. It is a skin that was used by Wikia for a short period of time and is now used by ShoutWiki. If you were on FANDOM in 2010 you might remember the whole “Monaco vs Oasis” debacle. Since Miraheze made a custom version of Oasis (Cosmos), I think that they should use Monaco or make a custom version, as it is a very popular skin. Here is an example of what it looks like on a wiki that uses it: http://awa.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Anti-Wikia_Alliance&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:16, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. Miraheze did actually have Monaco for a short period of time but it was removed as it is not compatible with the newest versions of MediaWiki and also unmaintained. The skin similar to Oasis called Cosmos was not technically made by Miraheze, but by a volunteer and former sysadmin, Universal Omega. Perhaps he might be interested in doing something similar for Monaco, but that's for him to say. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 16:26, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. I would like to see a custom version of that skin for Miraheze, since it is a good skin and is used by ShoutWiki, who uses MediaWiki 1.34, which is just two steps behind (ShoutWiki has not been in active development for a while and seemed to be partially abandoned by staff, though staff has come back. ShoutWiki also has less SEO than Miraheze, and Miraheze seems to be more popular nowadays. Since ShoutWiki seems to be in a bit of a pickle now with their Wiki Creation broken and partial dormancy, it would be nice for Miraheze to adopt Monaco, since if ShoutWiki closes the Anti-Wikia Alliance would have to move here, and they would want to have the Monaco skin as it was the whole Monaco vs Oasis thing that started the Anti-Wikia Alliance. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to note now that you brought this up, I do plan to fork the Monaco skin and get it working and hopefully deployed on Miraheze soon. Thanks for bringing this up! 16:48, 8 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * Blubabluba9990 thank you for raising this. Universal Omega, thank you for looking into forking this. Separately, would you mind fixing your signature, as it's incompatible with DiscussionTools? I believe the issue is your  tags need to be inside the wikilinks, not outside. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:53, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hello, though I'd give you an update on this, I have successfully done some major cleanup to Monaco on my own fork of it, and successfully got it to work on MediaWiki 1.35 and MediaWiki 1.36. Once I finish a few additional testing I will open a task on Phabricator for deployment of the skin on Miraheze. Thanks again for bringing this up, as I also like the Monaco skin and it will be great to have deployed on Miraheze. 16:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * I have now deployed Monaco on Miraheze. It can be enabled from the "Skins" tab of Special:ManageWiki/extensions now. 03:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |

Hello
Just created a list of Avengers enemies on dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org. --Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:31, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Login error
Hi, I'm LucianoTheWindowsFan. I tried editing on the Crappy Games Wiki, but when I submitted it, it says that it cannot be done due to a session loss. I tried logging out of this wiki but it says invalid CSRF token. I tried logging out of the Dr. Mario World wiki and it worked, but when I logged back into not only the previous wiki but also the Miraheze meta itself, I get a "cancelled to prevent session hijacking" error. How can I fix this problem? LucianoTheWindowsFan 23:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * LucianoTheWindowsFan, can you please go to Special:UserLogin on Loginwiki in incognito mode, then go to Special:UserLogout on the same wiki and also in incognito mode. Once that's done, delete all your cookies for  and any custom domain wikis and return to regular web browser mode, going to Special:UserLogin again. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 23:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I removed all the cookies in normal mode and Voilà! Now it works fine! LucianoTheWindowsFan (talk) 23:18, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * LucianoTheWindowsFan ✅. I've redacted your IP address. If you edited on any other wikis logged out and would like those redacted, too, please e-mail . Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 23:20, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki interface question
How do you change the text when you use "More" I found MediaWiki:Delete, MediaWiki:Protect, MediaWiki:Move, but they don't do anything. I even tried to test it using my now-locked AppleCrunchy sock back in September 2020, and it still didn't work. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Add &uselang=qqx to the url of the page and you will see the names of the system messages. You can edit them when you have admin rights, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 22:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean exactly? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:05, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you follow the link and read the online documentation of system messages? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The name of the messages is vector-action-move etc. depending on your skin, so MediaWiki:Move has no effect on the text of the dropdown-menu "More" --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, but what does MW:Move even do? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 22:40, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no clue where this system message is used in the Mediawiki software, I am still looking in the documentation but I could not find a list which system message is used where, maybe you are lucky, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 05:23, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Is there a way to hide the "Add as foe" button on SocialProfiles?
They can't be disabled due to limitations, but I question if there is a way to hide the link because they're forbidden on many of my wikis. — Mario Mario  456  21:17, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You can hide the button via CSS in the MediaWiki:Common.css e.g.  but be very careful when editing the MediaWiki:Common.css, maybe you try first   first to check if the right parts are affected,   is a very dangerous action in the MediaWiki:Common.css, if you enter this without selector your wiki is gone for good unless a global steward helps you out --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 22:12, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily Interesting, but when you say "your wiki is gone for good," in what way? I don't doubt that, as you're quite knowledgeable when it comes to CSS and JS, but I'm just wondering if it would be a technical issue that require system administrators to handle with a maintenance script or database edit. Dmehus (talk) 22:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It would result in the entire wiki interface being hidden, which would make it impossible to edit without either using the API or just disabling the styles using the browser devtools. Nothing that would require sysadmin intervention to fix. — Arcversintalk 02:54, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I accidentally added following code to the common.css, which resulted in a blank page when I accessed the wiki. Is there a way to deactivate the common.css? I had to rename the common.css in the database to get my wiki working again (not on Miraheze), maybe there was an easier way, I would appreciate it to hear from that, thank you, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 10:24, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's possible to use the browser developer tools (through the inspector) to disable specific css rules until a reload, which would let you edit the common.css in order to fix it. — Arcversintalk 18:14, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for clarifying. I was having trouble visualizing what the solution would be, so in that case, it may not even need a Steward; rather, it just needs someone with the necessary local permissions to edit via the API or just first disabling their web browser's CSS/JS. Dmehus (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I did not know this browser extension, I am glad that there is a simpler solution than manipulating the database if one has messed up the commons.css oder any other CSS-Page of the wiki, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:41, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I found a way to hide it, just blank MediaWiki:User-add-foe InspecterAbdel (NLW) 13:35, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This is definitely the best way, which wiki are you talking of? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 14:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "Which wiki"? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There is only one minor issue with blanking the MW page, it gives you a weird "| |" in social profile. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:13, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

CSS
Hello, how do I customize my wiki sidebar? I want to add a background image. SecretSpyer (talk) 04:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, please add following lines to MediaWiki:Common.css:
 * Thanks. --Anton (talk) 07:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It didn't work. See this. SecretSpyer (talk) 15:55, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * SecretSpyer It might be helpful if you were to consider granting Anton  on your wiki, at least temporarily, as he might be better able to debug this for you that way. Dmehus (talk) 15:58, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:00, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:00, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, I just realize I can't grant a user who hasn't registered yet in my wiki. I tried, but the system failed me. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:05, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Now you should be able to do it if you want. I’ll be happy to help you, and you can grant me the right one day to research it better on your wiki. Thanks. Anton (talk) 16:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I granted you, admin, and interface admin. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:17, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. The problem with what you said above when you didn’t make it work is that the image given above cannot be added. Probably because it lacks a file format. I saw the Miraheze logo with a file format (png) at the end. You have to take another picture and add it in the same way as I advised above. Also, MediaWiki:Sidebar was missing from your wiki (and then I didn't get anything visible), so I created it. I just posted a message on your talk page about the same thing. Currently, Sidebar does not have a background image, for the reason mentioned above. Anton (talk) 17:21, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course this is not working, and you need no admin rights to figure out . My first guess is always copy the url of the image to the browser address field and you will see the extension of the file is missig a "g" in the end, "jpg", not "jp" --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 05:28, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * . I know yes. I don't want instructions. --Anton (talk) 06:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And this was not about that image. (IMac_Early_2021.jpg). Anton (talk) 06:42, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sry, forget my post pls --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 06:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * and, problems solved, Is it possible to add a wiki background usng CSS? Thanks SecretSpyer (talk) 14:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can do it. Background color or image? Anton (talk) 15:21, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just set the background color to space gray. SecretSpyer (talk) 15:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Question
Who likes fanfiction?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 00:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Me! Wiki JS   talk  15:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, I created fanfictionstories.miraheze.org not that long ago. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 19:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That’s very cool Wiki JS   talk  23:55, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You can contribute if you would like to? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 23:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Bots
How do you program bots? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 13:41, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * InspecterAbdel This is an advanced, broad question not ideally suited for community noticeboard. You would be better off joining us on IRC in the or  channel with specific questions related to this. To start you off, I would just refer you to Manual:Pywikibot on MediaWiki.org. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

A request to Twinkle
Can anyone add a RFPP to the twinkle code? I tried to request that Trust and Safety be protected, but there was no option. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:42, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * InspecterAbdel I don't think that's required. Page protections can just be requested at Administrators' noticeboard. In this case, though, with no vandalism on that page, I don't think page protection is required at this time. I mean, we could potentially protect it at, to be proactive, but I do prefer to wait until actual vandalism or abuse occurs when implementing protection. Dmehus (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * But isn't it a business page like Terms of Use? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It is, but it's not really a policy page. It's more of an informational supplement page. I will check with Owen and see what he prefers, though. Dmehus (talk) 18:49, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, and can you help me with the problem above? (Annoying error) InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

A little question
I was working on the mh:upsettingtoys:Upsetting Toys Wiki and while I was changing the extensions, I tried enabling the "Template Upload" extension but I found out the extenstions were changed so I want to see how can I still use them. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 18:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Annoying error
I was importing templates from templatewiki, and I turned on TemplateStyles, but the template documentation gives me an error saying "Page Module:Documentation/styles.css must have content model "Sanitized CSS" for TemplateStyles (current model is "plain text")." How do I fix this? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:36, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Easy fix. On the page where the error is referring to (in this case, Documentation/styles.css, I'm assuming), click "page information" in the sidebar, locate the row labeled "content model," and click "change." Sanitized CSS is one of the options that appears. If you let me know what wiki this is on, I can do it for you :) Turtle84375 (talk) 04:07, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that helped. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 13:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Turtle84375 (talk) 00:32, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Templates
Does anyone know how to create navboxes like the ones on Wikipedia?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 19:57, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You need to use Special:Import to import Template:Navbox from Wikipedia, with "include all templates" checked, and you also need to enable the "Template Styles" extension in ManageWiki. Once you do that, you can create navboxes using the template. — Arcversintalk 01:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

IP Editing
I have added the writeapi and createpage permissions to the  group and IPs still can't create nor edit pages in FAMEPedia. Please help Ugochimobi (talk) 08:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Is  permission enabled? Writeapi has nothing to do with editing or creating pages. Have you also verified that the codes you added are not in the $wgRevokePermissions variable? --Anton (talk) 09:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have the  permissions enabled and how can I know which permission is revoked? Ugochimobi (talk) 10:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I checked your wiki settings (ListGroupRights) and there were no revoke permissions. They would have been pulled over ( this way ). However, I logged out, and at least I would have been able to create a new page on your wiki. Anton (talk) 13:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh. Ugochimobi (talk) 15:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just a side question, how do you "revoke" permissions for certain groups? I've never seen an option for that in the user right settings. Turtle84375 (talk) 19:16, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * $wgRevokePermissions ​means the right revoked ​from the user. For example, if you don't want administrators to be able to block users anymore, you would do it this way: . But also   working. --Anton (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Turtle84375 Do you mean revoke the ability for certain elevated groups to manage lower groups? Or do you mean removing user rights from a group? Both can be done in Special:ManageWiki/permissions, albeit it in different tabs. Dmehus (talk) 19:22, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind, though, some user rights can be removed from certain groups in ManageWiki, they're actually hard-coded, for technical or security reasons, to the  user group in  . These are typically rights all users need to manage their own preferences and personal options. Sometimes user rights are blacklisted from   (i.e., interface administration-related rights). Dmehus (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm referring to this page, where it says (in the legend) that "Revoked right" would be indicated with a strikethrough. But is there even a ManageWiki setting to do that with? Or is that something, as mentioned, that you would configure in the wiki's configuration code? I've never seen a user right crossed out on that list before, so I'm doubting if it's even a usable thing. Just curious. Turtle84375 (talk) 19:56, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you have  set to , or the EditSubpages extension enabled on your wiki? Both of those  either (a) preclude anonymous users from editing or (b) cause a conflict that precludes anonymous user editing. Dmehus (talk) 14:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know if  is set to true and I don't have the EditSubpages extension enabled. Ugochimobi (talk) 15:24, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions/* and add "edit" and "create". — Mario Mario  456  14:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have that already and it's still not working tho Ugochimobi (talk) 15:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi I can edit logged out on this page (if I wanted to). So I'm not sure why you can't. It seems to be either a page-specific protection issue. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Oh no, nevermind, I can't, per, "You must confirm your email address before editing pages. Please set and validate your email address through your user preferences." So, yes, you'll need to either (a) disable  in Special:ManageWiki/settings, or (b) just effectively disallow anonymous user editing. Dmehus (talk) 15:30, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Okay I'll do that now Ugochimobi (talk) 15:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good. Dmehus (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello
What new Miraheze wikis are you guys going to create?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 00:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm thinking of making a wiki about all of the .io games, combining them all into one information source, but separating them by namespace. I'm just trying to gauge potential interest in that type of wiki. Turtle84375 (talk) 04:09, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oof, but someone beat me to it. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:22, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was just going to say, I'm pretty I saw a repository wiki about  games recently. ;) Dmehus (talk) 18:47, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hm. Back to the drawing board, then. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hrm, yeah, maybe, but I mean you could potentially engage with that wiki bureaucrat with your ideas, and I'm quite certain they'd be amenable to the two of you serving as co-bureaucrats in building that wiki. Basically, two heads are better than one? :) Dmehus (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that could work. I'll check with them :) Turtle84375 (talk) 19:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good. :) Dmehus (talk) 19:34, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Wiki inactivity signs
I have noticed that every time a wiki gets closed, it will say “This wiki has been closed because there have been no edits for the last 60 days” even if the wiki was closed by a local bureaucrat and a steward. I think that the sign should be changed so that if the wiki was closed either by a local bureaucrat or steward it would give the latest ManageWiki log, like with deletion and protection logs, so that it would be easier to tell exactly why the wiki was closed. There is also another thing: Is there any specific time when an inactive wiki gets deleted? The sign says “6 months” but it seems to take longer. Atrocious YouTubers Wiki and Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki, for example, have been closed since September 6, 2020 and have not yet been deleted. Despite this, the exemption policy lists a specific amount of days. There seems to be a lot of grey area regarding that. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Blubabluba9990 Non-exempt wikis are marked as deleted automatically after 180 days since the date the of the last RC edit or log action, excepting some actions like global renames and CentralAuth automatic user account creations. Alternatively, if a wiki is manually closed, then they are marked as deleted after 135 days since the date of last RC edit or log action. The wikis you refer to have not been deleted yet because of certain extension-added user rights that still allow users to perform certain actions. Thus, I plan to discuss with the Steward team about manually marking the wikis for deletion. Dmehus (talk) 01:14, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Wiki promotion
I hosted a wiki called Macintosh Database for everything Mac, from small to big. And the only editor is me, so I feel kind of boring doing this alone. That's why I promoted here if that is not against the rule. Vist here. SecretSpyer (talk) 04:32, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Noone will edit in your wiki when every change is sent to moderation. I also recommand to create Edittools for easier editing, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 06:33, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily does make a good point on the Moderation extension. It's a great anti-spam tool, but really should only be used where your wiki doesn't require a lot of editing and where spam only accounts getting past the global abuse filters are a problem. You might also try the StopForumSpam extension instead. Dmehus (talk) 07:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. I lost some edits made by other users, where can I find the patrol panel and how do I disable it. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:06, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe patrolled edits are enabled by default. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Can you clarify this a bit? Dmehus (talk) 16:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , never mind by the lost edit part, how do I disable the moderation extension? SecretSpyer (talk) 16:18, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, you mean the Moderation extension? Go into Special:ManageWiki/extensions, "Anti-Spam" tab, and uncheck the box. Before you do that, though, you may want to remove the extension-added user rights from all groups listed in Special:ListGroupRights. If you search for "moderation," that should cover them all. Dmehus (talk) 16:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Would anyone like to join Allpedia?
Allpedia is open for users to edit, create, articles, and contribute. Please join! SoyokoAnis 12:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Notice!
Please I made a request on Phabricator here on this task Please let a SysAdmin respond. Ugochimobi (talk) 13:40, 12 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Ugochimobi There's no need to cross-post this to community noticeboard. SRE will respond within a day or two generally. In fact, Reception123 has already ✅, and the extension request has been declined due to insufficient monetary and server resources. Dmehus (talk) 13:46, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh. Thanks Ugochimobi (talk) 13:49, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please check FAMEPedia the Creative Commons Logo isn't showing again, it is showing the text instead.. why? Ugochimobi (talk) 13:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It loads for me. I can't reproduce this. Perhaps try clearing your web browser history/cache? Dmehus (talk) 13:59, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay.. You're awesome. Thanks Ugochimobi (talk) 14:10, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Cartoon Fatness
What happened to the Cartoon Fatness wiki? Did it got taken down because it had not encountered the guidelines? I recall seeing a URL for that domain almost a year ago. Is it from the fact Bigcartoon.org exists? Most likely since Fandom shut down their version back in January 2019 I think. 2607:FB90:AA7D:D4EF:FD11:F393:E7D:708A 20:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC)


 * 2607:FB90:AA7D:D4EF:FD11:F393:E7D:708A Do you recall what the web address URL was for this wiki? Most likely it was deleted per Dormancy Policy, but without the web address URL, I couldn't be certain as to why it's no longer available (i.e., if that's the reason or not). Also, was it a public or private wiki? If the former, there's likely an XML dump available on The Internet Archive. Dmehus (talk) 21:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

DC and Marvel Comic Book wiki
Who's interested in contributing to https://dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 23:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Protection
How do I protect pages so that custom-created user groups/non-protected priviledge can edit? On TestWiki, you can protect it so that only bureaucrats can edit it, but I don't know how you can do that, especially since that you can only protect it to only users, autoconfirmed users, or admins. InspecterAbdel (talk) 15:19, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

✅. Additionally, I also added the three MediaWiki interface messages for you, so you wouldn't have seen text like  and   Dmehus (talk) 06:45, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel This requires a Phabricator request, though I can do it for you if you want, as it requires setting up restriction levels (which aren't configurable in ManageWiki) in  in the GitHub repository. What do you want for the name of the user right for the restriction level (i.e., like   for   users)? Dmehus (talk) 15:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I want 2 editstuffs: I want  and   InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:06, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Edit official is for Co-Creators and Edit Archive is for bots and Co-Creators InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel Okay, I'll try and add those restriction levels today or tomorrow for you. Which wikis? Once they've been created, you can assign that user right to whichever groups you want in Special:ManageWiki/permissions. Dmehus (talk) 16:20, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Today, on Naasgamelandwiki. InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I'll try working on that today. Dmehus (talk) 16:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * How long does it take to update the GitHub repository? InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:21, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, not too long, but I do have other requests and things to do today, but rest assured, I'll get to it today or tomorrow. Dmehus (talk) 16:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:51, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yay, replying works, but about Phab, I might not get my own account until I have my own Gmail. InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:56, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you add it now? InspecterAbdel (talk) 13:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * hello? InspecterAbdel (talk) 11:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll try and get to this today or tomorrow, but it is just an extra protection/restriction level, so not a high priority, as the existing protection/restriction levels do work well. This is more of a nice to have, but I will definitely get to it. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 13:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :D InspecterAbdel (talk) 14:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * When you are done adding it, ping me. InspecterAbdel (talk) 14:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Will do. It's on my list of things to do today. Dmehus (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you do it yet? InspecterAbdel (talk) 14:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Not yet, been quite busy, but I will, and will ping you here when it's finished. Dmehus (talk) 14:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, if you haven't done it now, why don't you go do it right away? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel Though I believe you've no doubt seen that this was completed, I just wanted to update this thread to note that this was

How do you make a multilanguage wiki?
I know there are some tutorials but I just can't understand them. For example, why can't miraheze just make an "add new language" button on the left side? I'm struggling hard now, please help me, thx! Tenkafuma (talk) 11:38, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There is an extension called Translate for this purpose and with this you are able to have translated pages like Meta does. For an example of how that works you can see the Main Page here. --DeeM28 (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I know the translate template but I'm confused by the steps. It said that I needed to download or change the localsetting thingy, but how do you download miraheze? My mother language isn't English so maybe it's my bad for misunderstanding. But, again, can't miraheze just simply make an "add new language" button on the left side in default? Like the wikipedia. Tenkafuma (talk) 12:13, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It is also worth considering the introduction of the ContentTranslation and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions in this regard. You can also see these on Wikipedia, and they usually come from Wikidata, which requires the extensions WikibaseClient and WikibaseRepository, among others. WikibaseRepository comes in a repo wiki (like Wikidata), and a WikibaseClient client wiki (like English Wikipedia for example). As far as I know, the Translate extension alone has nothing to do with the sidebar. Anton (talk) 12:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Again, ContentTranslation needs to install, but the next question is how to download miraheze? It's confusing. Tenkafuma (talk) 13:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Tenkafuma Well, the "add new language" is for interlanguage wikis&mdash;that is to say, one language per wiki. You asked about a multilingual wiki, for which DeeM28 appropriately recommended the Translate extension. Regarding extensions and configuration, that's the danger in relying on MediaWiki.org extension documentation on Miraheze. In most cases, you can configure extensions on Miraheze in ManageWiki, a Miraheze-developed extension for wiki management. ContentTranslation can be requested, and I thought about requesting that actually. If something can't be configured in ManageWiki, you can request on Phabricator for a system administrator to configure it for you in  on GitHub. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thx for your help, I guess I'll just make them separately. One language per wiki seems to be the only solution.Tenkafuma (talk) 02:17, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, there's pros and cons to both. Feel free to explore Meta Wiki's various content pages in both  and   namespaces to see what is possible with a multilingual wiki using the Translate extension. I do tend to prefer multilingual wikis. Alternatively, explore &mdash;revi's Revi HQ for an example of a multilingual wiki (in practical terms, it's a bilingual Korean and English wiki) without using the Translate extension (i.e., translated subpages are manually created and translated, with a common template footer added to each page). See also MacFan4000's related point on the streamlining related to the Translate extension coming with MediaWiki 1.36. Dmehus (talk) 14:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Main page help
Hello, Miraheze users,

Can someone make me a main page for: https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page to be copied to an offsite wiki that looks better then the one I have. Thinking of having a highlighted pages box, the backstory of the world, link to recreant changes and whatever you think would look nice. Color wise, want it to fit into the new Vector colors.

Looks wise, inspired by Wikipedia main page if possable, unless you have another idea, as I am open to other ideas. I would rather find a way to do it with CSS over templates if possible.

Thank you for your time. TheBurningPrincess (talk) 12:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Help based on Statement
Hello, on FAMEData adding statements to an Item seems to work for me but don't work for some users, I don't know what the issue might be, whether it's userright restricted but some administrators also cannot add statement, Can't just figure out what the issue is. Please help fix this, I dont know if this is a bug or something. Ugochimobi (talk) 16:13, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * You can always open a task on Phabricator. Bukkit (talk) 16:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, it depends on if it's a technical issue that requires a configuration change or is a bug report. If it's just a user right configuration or something that can be done on-wiki in any way, this is the best venue, as the Phabricator ticket will be closed as invalid. Dmehus (talk) 16:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * so please how can it be resolved please ? Ugochimobi (talk) 22:10, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi I'm not too familiar with the Wikibase extension, so haven't looked it into too much. Perhaps someone else will be along shortly to help you out? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:21, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay... Ugochimobi (talk) 07:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well true. Bukkit (talk) 16:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay Ugochimobi (talk) 16:34, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey
What are barnstars?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:07, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Barnstars --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 18:52, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:53, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Encyclopedia
Who would like to see a miraheze wiki based on Wikipedia in the future?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 21:04, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * It's already existing tho Ugochimobi (talk) 22:09, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm believe Allpedia is quite similar to Wikipedia. Turtle84375 (talk) 05:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)