User talk:DarkMatterMan4500

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My future
So I noticed that things have changed since the last time I visited the wikis. Mario and Duchess are gone, and you guys moved TTG vs. TT to the Okay Movies Wiki. So it seems like the Lion King sequels can be added there as well. And I'm sorry for threatening to add Cuties to GMW.

So can you guys give me another chance to be on QP? FreezingTNT (talk) 15:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, yes. I believe you deserve a second chance to be on Qualitipedia. But, I'll process the unblocks in the morning. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Upsetting Toys Wiki
Could you please make this wiki private? The wiki was closed for multiple fair reasons and I'm pretty confident that when the character wikis closed, someone said that the reason why the character wikis were privated as well was because they didn't want someone to create a ripoff of the wiki on another wiki-hosting site, and I think that's a fair reason to private the wiki. FatBurn0000 (talk) 05:59, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'll do that. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:22, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I have ✅ your request. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:29, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This is not valid rationale. If someone wants to make the wiki on another platform, that's their business and unlikely anyway, either way not your problem. If they want to duplicate it on Miraheze, they'll be hit with Miraheze policy. The wikis were closed as they are to allow normal adoption procedure, the intention was not to make them inaccessible or unadoptable. The resulting situation is no clear procedure for manual adoption that should have been executed when the wikis were closed in the first place - in fact I am quite sure I suggested that in confidence right along with original closure - and closure that further sends the wrong message as it did to when this issue was raised on the Stewards' Noticeboard. Basically, this request and its acceptance unnecessarily screws up a perfectly simple process. --Raidarr (talk) 13:19, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

You have a point, but the thing is, it's somewhat difficult to make good pages out of toys, as it's hard to list more than two or three reasons, which is not that good for a page. FatBurn0000 (talk) 19:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I would argue this is an endemic problem with reception wikis in general, including a majority of the ones you've suggested over time. It's less being able to scrounge up reasons as much as getting sourceable and valid reasons. Such is not a reason against their existence in accordance with Content Policy as long as they're not violating in other ways, although it's fair rationale to be critical about their function. But if there are people willing to try, then they're free to do so. --Raidarr (talk) 20:39, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Questions on supermariowiki.miraheze.org
Me and HannaMontanaFan asked you something on your talk page there, if you want to check. RMV2003 (talk) 20:15, 30 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've been checking my emails for quite some time now. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:17, 30 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm from the well known Super Mario Wiki & have been helping HannaMontanaFan make their wiki more original because I felt they were really hard at work porting over lot of old Mario Wiki pages but it seemed like a redundant effort, so I've been helping them see their dream but at same time still use Super Mario Wiki regularly. HannaMontanaFan is also open to adopting nintendo.miraheze.org (something I suggested, to which the user agreed). A long conversation is on HannaMontanaFan's talk page on Super Mario Wiki (Miraheze) -- see here.
 * P.S. I've been trying to edit the CSS but the changes aren't showing. Any idea why? RMV2003 (talk) 20:20, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello # 2
I was on the polcomp all wiki and I was browsing through pages when then I found out my friend, RightistWrangler was globally locked, I think the reason is that Wrangler vandalized Bannned’s page and replaced it with some not so appropriate text. Now I know what Wrangler did was bad but I don’t think he deserves to be globally blocked, maybe just a warning on his talk page and a temporary block on the wiki would do. - Carpenter family (talk) 04:53, 31 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Note that DarkMatterMan4500 is not a Steward and thus will not be able to do anything. The logged lock reason was "Abusing multiple accounts" which means that the user was suspected of using multiple accounts for disruptive purposes. If they wish to appeal, they may always do so to stewards@undefinedmiraheze.org. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 04:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I don’t think Wrangler operates multiple accounts, if he did he would show them to the wiki through edits and/or comments, so I don’t think that is a good reason. - Carpenter family (talk) 12:21, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Agent's right. I don't really have that much authority beyond any comprehensible doubt. Your best bet is to ask if you want, or ask, since he's the one who locked his account. I was also confused myself. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:32, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Per the observable conversation between members of the community and the global Counter Vandalism Team, it did appear RightistWrangler was abusing multiple accounts. Now, if they believe this was in error, they are more than welcome to appeal to the aforementioned email. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:56, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Request #21180
Hi DarkMatterMan4500,

Could you describe for me your thought process in how you rationalized approving wiki request #21180, not just as okay-ish/a conditional edge case, but a bit vague, but otherwise pretty good against, principally, Content Policy? This is the fundamental policy against which wiki creators must consider when approving a requested wiki.

Notably, the requestor themselves even acknowledged the request was highly unlikely to be approved, saying there was about a 1 in 5 chance it would be approved.

Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 06:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Please see 's question on Discord, as a long discussion of it can be seen there, as I was just asked this the other day, and I regret approving that wiki request. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 09:48, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Thank you for your reply, and for the link, which I've re-read; however, not all Miraheze community members are members of the Miraheze Discord channel. For their benefit, I'll summarize Agent Isai's, Raidarr's, and Ugochimobi's responses. Agent Isai asked you whether or not the proposed wiki sounded like a content of Public Test Wiki, to which you replied that because the name was not similar to TestWiki, it was not a content fork. Raidarr, Ugochimobi, and others, affirmed Agent Isai's views, with which I'd agree. It was your response, and subsequent responses to others' questions, in which you said you were "skimming" the request in order to approve it. Equally so, you should never feel compelled to "skim" wiki requests in order to manage a requested wiki queue backlog or otherwise. Review of wiki requests requires thoughtful consideration of what the wiki's purpose is (i.e., what it is in a broad, general sense), what does it propose to write about (i.e., what it is about), and whether we have any substantially similar wikis, to which it might be better to guide the requesting user to consider contributing there, and requesting any permissions locally as they may require. As I've guided you on a number of either hastily approved or questionably/incorrectly approved wikis a number of times, notably back in May/June of this year, I was hoping to get more of a sense of your thought process behind this approval, beyond the link to the Discord server thread you shared. Do you have anything else to add to that, or does this suitably summarize that thought process? Dmehus (talk) 15:31, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, as of now, I'm just being cautious about whether or not wiki requests are to be approved. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:37, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Now I'm dealing with the same LTA who's been rampant this year. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:50, 31 October 2021 (UTC)