Community noticeboard

Vote
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have a question for you: should we have a wiki on here like the Wiki Gazetteer on FANDOM? Put your vote in the headings below! And remember to sign your posts with ~. Tali64³ (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes

 * 1) Why not? This would not be a bad idea for someone looking for a specific wiki. --Furricane (talk) 21:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) per  InspecterAbdel (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I strongly support this because we can find more specific wikis.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 21:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) I'm not opposed to this idea, in theory, and I do think that we need to rethink Gazetteer of wikis given that we have ~3,800 current wikis (which is too large for a single page). My main concern, which I expressed in declining the wiki request, was that this may suffer from lack of maintenance and timely updates. As well, by siphoning it away from Meta, we now have yet another wiki we have to somehow promote, so that sort of defeats the purpose of a gazetteer of wikis designed to promote customers' public wikis, doesn't it? Secondarily, I honestly think a better way to go about this is to add additional functionality and data output to the automated list, Special:WikiDiscover. That said, it's a good-faith idea, in theory and if well-maintained, so that is why I am expressing some support, albeit weak. Dmehus (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) I think this will help in finding wikis. Admittedly, there was once a list on Wikia, but we've dropped it. Onmp314 (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There are still two: the Wiki Wiki and the Wiki Gazetteer. Tali64³ (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

No

 * 1)  I don't see the need for an entire wiki like this. We already have a page here on meta, Gazetteer of wikis. And in all honesty, a page on meta will most likely be given more notice than another external wiki that some will never visit. As such I am opposing this idea. While a good thought I don't see the need for it. I mean if you want it, go for you, but I don't think it should be a community wiki at all.  15:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * There are wikis currently on Miraheze, too big to list on one page. An administrator could put a link to it on the main page. Tali64³ (talk) 16:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * We also have Special:WikiDiscover which lists every wiki on Miraheze. 14:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  if there were a lot of people to add entries for wikis with short descriptions that would work for me but right now I think that the Meta gazeteer is enough and is helpful. DeeM28 (talk) 07:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) A wiki for this is unnecessary, Gazetteer of wikis on Meta works fine. If there was a way to automate it with Special:WikiDiscover, I might rethink it, but otherwise this would likely get really outdated long-term. K599 (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) and I would like to note, wiki creations are at the sole discretion of wiki creators and global policy, and I view this as a way to circumvent a decline of mine. Thus, I also recommend a closure of this as not done. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 05:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
I think it's a fair enough idea but there are many ways to approach it and would need lots of maintenance and would probably create some form of conflict -Bayugoon (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

 * 1) I'm currently been slowly working on a similar idea over the past month or two just documenting wikis: the Wikiverse. dibbydib 23:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) As a Miraheze wiki creator, when this wiki truly passes through us for approval (I have recently accidentally approved this wiki sent in by, which due to the ongoing discussion and the incorrect subdomain is currently pending steward review for deletion), it is important for us to know when to approve the wiki and who will be creating it. Therefore, who will be the founding Bureaucrat of the wiki if it passes community discussion?  14:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * I would be the founder. Tali64³ (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * When having community discussions like these, who will be the founder is among what should be discussed. I believe who should be the founder should be among what is discussed here. Thanks! 02:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1) Relisting for another couple of weeks. Dmehus (talk) 05:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Relisting for another several weeks. Dmehus (talk) 11:42, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

A new wiki for the website's community
The Miraheze Community Wiki is a wiki for the community so people can get to know each other and welcome each other. I know Meta does that, but I think we need a wiki for that stuff.

Support

 * 1) I think we need a wiki for this kind of thing InspecterAbdel (talk) 22:44, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) but not per any of the above or below, but because community noticeboard has become a catch-all for technical support questions, community discussions, and really anything. The organization is weak, and we could use a community wiki. I have no objections to it, but the main reason for my oppose  weak support here is because the purpose is somewhat vague and unclear. I appreciate  bringing this for a community discussion, though, and, since this wiki was simultaneously submitted for approval and created already, I think we should probably shift this wiki towards defining a clear purpose and terms of reference for its existence and the parameters by which the local   can be removed (via Community noticeboard) here on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)  Amended. Moved from weak oppose to weak support Dmehus (talk) 15:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I think we should have one since fandom has one. Plus it's subdomain is valuable too. AppleCrunchy (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) I really like to have a community wiki for new users to gather, although we have a Community noticeboard.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 17:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) . No, we don't need such a wiki.  This page ("community noticeboard") is exactly for this kind of thing.  I don't want to have to check both this page and a dedicated wiki to find out what is happening on the wiki farm, nor learn how such a wiki is organized.   04:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Spike. There is already not enough engagement and usage on Meta, so another wiki is really not what we need. We should focus on Meta. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) . We DO NOT need a community wiki is needed at this time. We already have this page, the community noticeboard, and Requests for Permissions, requests for global rights and requests for stewardship. It seems that it would serve the same service as as most of this meta wiki, and I just see no possible usage for this. I also agree with the comments that has made about having to go back and forth between meta and a community wiki. Sorry, it is just not going to work. --Furricane (talk) 15:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping you'll consider amending your !vote, per my comments above, as I really don't think 's goal was for this wiki to replace Meta. The problem with this request is that (a) the wiki shouldn't have been created without a community discussion (not, technically, a requirement, as far as I'm aware, but good practice) and (b) it should've had a clearer purpose, scope, and defined parameters, as we are doing with Dev Wiki and have done with Template Wiki and Miraheze Commons in the past. No community proposals or discussions, or even drafts of such proposals, would've occurred on this wiki. Rather, as I saw it (though vague and unclear), this wiki was meant to be a user collaboration and social connection wiki that would've actually sought to deepen community participation. Participation in this community wiki would've been completely voluntary and not participating would not have meant the user would "miss out" on important community discussions, as I don't think that was ever the intent behind 's good-faith proposal. Dmehus (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  I do not think another wiki is necessary for the community because for me Meta is the wiki for the community. DeeM28 (talk) 07:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  This is unnecessary, Meta already serves essentially the same purpose, and there's not really enough of that kind of "community" activity to need a separate wiki. K599 (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  After reading the first two oppose votes I agree with those users.  We should try to engage the community on Meta and we can be doing community oriented activities here.  Тишина (talk) 17:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 5)  I agree that the noticeboard is enough and if there was a whole wiki about the community it would be under used and it would require moving around instead of just looking at this one page Bayugoon (talk) 19:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Comments

 * I think the subject is not whether we need a community wiki or not, as we already have a community-centric wiki, but whether we need a miraheze-sanctioned community wiki.I think CN is sufficient, but it seems unusual for a topic to be set up for communication purposes, so someone may need to give an example. I found an image on ja.wiktionary.org showing the stroke order of my name, so it might be a good idea to post it, but it takes courage to be the first one. --松•Matsu (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 02:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 01:36, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

A community Developers wiki
I have a proposition for the Miraheze community. For a while now I have been debating whether or not to create a developers wiki for Miraheze. Unlike the template wiki, this wiki will include CSS and JS scripts that anyone can import using, it will allow anyone who wants it to use scripts built by the community in their own wikis and/or in their own personal global or local JavaScript or CSS files. After consulting with on Discord, I decided to get the communities feedback and/or support on this idea, therefore what does the Miraheze community think of this idea? 22:53, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Yeah, though I don't think it's required to have a community discussion in this case, since it's going to be a community wiki for shared CSS and JavaScript files, among other things potentially, I thought it would be a good practice to have the discussion, especially if it proposes to use the name "Miraheze." Plus, I think it would be helpful for the community to (a) define the initial scope and purpose and (b) establish the founding bureaucrats for the wiki. From there, the local community can help to establish its local policies and further refine its purpose. In general terms, I support this as a community wiki as I think it is sufficiently different than the Template and Miraheze Bots + Tools wikis. I also think it could be useful at reducing the page load times of community-imported and -maintained user scripts, as opposed to always loading them from English Wikipedia and other wikis. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, some of that is part of my initial thoughts for the reasoning of the wiki. As for using the name Miraheze in it, I think it should be called Miraheze Developers Wiki or something similar. As for bureaucrats of the wiki, any candidate recommendations? And I think a community discussion for this is a good idea. It gives the community a way to give input, and their own unique ideas in it as well. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * As proposer I support this, but also because I know JS and CSS pretty well, and would love to have a wiki like this for the Miraheze community. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * This is a great idea for a new wiki. I think that by doing this, lots of new coding things could be enabled, including possibly global modules and gadgets. Great suggestion. I also have no concerns for this proposal. --Furricane (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, I do believe that a wiki like this could be greatly beneficial in the long run, or at least I hope it can be. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * I support this idea because not everyone can do custom CSS and (or) custom JS. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea for having a central place to import JS and CSS. K599 (talk) 20:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * per my comments above. Dmehus (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Good. Waldo (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * would be a nice place to ask questions with in that area Bayugoon (talk) 19:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Potential rename and/or expanded scope of Dev Wiki
asked me a few days, or perhaps a week, ago if I had posted in this discussion thread about the potential renaming and expanded scope for Dev Wiki yet. Other tasks took priority, but seeing as this thread was due to be archived in the next day or so, I wanted to get this done. So, I'm going to ping those that participated above and those who participated in the discussion on potential name ideas/expanded scope on Discord.

So, the question is...given that the  subdomain implies broader usage by and for developers beyond just CSS and JavaScript scripts,  and I (did I forget anyone, ?) basically toyed around with a number of potential new names and subdomains, the top three of which is identified below:


 * 1) Retain   and expand the scope, or allow the community, via a future community noticeboard discussion to expand the scope at some point in the future;
 * 2) Rename subdomain to , which would be roughly in line with the current purpose and scope, but open to possibilities later (again, the community would retain the right modify the scope via a community noticeboard discussion); or,
 * 3) Rename subdomain to , with a narrow scope; limits us in the future, but entirely accurate; it's not too bad, as we could easily create a separate dev later, though we should reserve that subdomain in the blacklist)

Since didn't participate in the Discord discussion and since this doesn't require any advanced rights to close, I nominate him to assess the consensus and close this discussion in a week or two. --Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of RhinosF1 as closer
, please indicate if you would be willing to close this discussion after 1-2 weeks (depending on the weather-related impacts to U.S. eastern seaboard residents).

Additionally, can I get a seconder to second this nomination? (Thought we could probably safely skip a full vote on nominating an uninvolved closer.)


 * Accepted:  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominated closer)
 * Moved: Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominator)
 * Seconded: 02:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 13:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks, plus the duration set by the hidden wikicomment at the end of this thread. Dmehus (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Voting and Vote Tabulation Instructions
You are encouraged to express first and second choices in your !vote. Please do so by indicating, in your !vote for each proposal, whether it is your first or second choice. If no proposal achieves more than 50% of the valid !votes cast, the proposal with the least number of first choice !votes will be dropped, and those users' second choices will then be allocated accordingly, and the results retabulated in a second count.

Support

 * 1)   02:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 2)  as first choice, since the community remains overall authority over this wiki in terms of its   removal (as may be required) and in terms of redefining, or broadening, its scope. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  I think there is no need to rename. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  Looks nice, and is easy to understand. K599 (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I like this idea as well, but it feels like it has other non-computer science-related use cases (i.e., for an archival- or museum-type wiki). Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I also liked 's idea, as it is the most specific and clearly defines this wiki's current purpose, but, at the same time, it really does restrict a future broadening of this wiki's scope to include a broader array of wiki developer resources, for which the community retains the absolute authority to redefine this wiki's purpose via community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Vector tab styling gone after update
Hello! I'm an admin on the My Little Pony wiki, and after the 1.35 update, our vector tab stylings stopped working, as well with some less jarring h2 underlining border stuff, so I wanted to know if anyone else knew what to do? I downloaded the most recent version of Vector and used Notepad++ to look up classes in its files, and I think the issue is the vector tabs got switched to .less format which isn't affected by .css (AFAIK, not a code monkey). I tried creating a Vector.less page and imported it via my own personal .css page, but that didn't work. Anyone have any solutions? --Amelia (talk) 19:10, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your question. Unfortunately, I see no one with expertise on the matter has yet offered any possible solutions, so I am going to ping two of our subject matter experts on matters concerning CSS and skins,, to this thread, and have them take a look. Thanks again. :) Dmehus (talk) 14:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus I think this was resolved in T6365. K599 (talk) 16:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, ✅. Yeah, it does appear to be resolved. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Harry Potter Wiki
Can the people consider opening a wiki for Harry Potter wiki? The fandom site is toxic and people dislike the existing admins. 74.105.199.98 14:56, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 74.105.199.98, thank you for your question, and welcome both to Miraheze and Meta. Indeed, you can create an account, login, and request a wiki describing your wiki's topic and purpose in 1-2 sentences, delineating any scope to it as well and in compliance with Content Policy. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and made a harry potter wiki I will help with it once it gets approved if you wish to be admin and create I would be more then happy to give you it once you make an account I am interested in harry potter as well and look forward to making this wiki thrive and grow Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I personally do not think this was necessary, as you have now preempted a potential new Miraheze user from requesting this wiki. I've procedurally declined it. If they don't request it within two days, you may resubmit the wiki request, and create it yourself. Dmehus (talk) 15:47, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

"Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server: (curl error: 52) Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)"
I recently got this error while writing a page on Awful Movies Wiki. Anyone else got this error today? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IvanTheGreat (talk • contribs) 16:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * This is possibly more than one issue, which I'm currently tracking. However, if you go into your web browser's cookies and delete all cookies for, the issue will resolve itself. If the issue continuously keeps reoccurring more than once every month or so, then do re-report this issue on Phabricator. As I say, though, near-term, clearing your cookies should resolve this.
 * Also, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .), as opposed to manually typing your signature as that doesn't work for the bot. Dmehus (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed, thank you. IvanTheGreat (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Great to hear. ✅. Dmehus (talk) 16:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

EasyTimeline 1.90
Hi, I would like to either propose or ask how to add EasyTimeline 1.90 to a wiki. I am wishing to add it to a wiki that I am an administrator in. I though am not very familiar with Miraheze software and how to add that piece of software to the wiki I am in. If it is not able to be added then I would suggest that it would be added. Summi Imperatoris (talk) 17:22, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your question, and welcome to Meta. It looks like this extension isn't available in Special:ManageWiki/extensions; however, you can suggest it on Phabricator. Login with your Miraheze/MediaWiki login, then use the "feature request" task form. All non-Wikimedia extensions will undergo a security review, mainly to ensure there is no problematic code, possibility of SQL injections, and ensure the extensions are adequately maintained. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 17:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus Thank you! I had no idea that that part had existed to be able to request such. The reason I asked is because I am moving some pages from a wiki that does use EasyTimeline 1.90 and so it glitched out. Summi Imperatoris (talk) 17:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Sounds reasonable. Be sure to include that in your request rationale in your Phabricator request. Also, note that you may find the ping template easier than using the @ and a standard wikilink. Dmehus (talk) 17:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Summi Imperatoris EasyTimeline actually is available in Special:ManageWiki/extensions, it's just labelled as "Timeline". K599 (talk) 19:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

(Again) Cite feature under visual editor
I have raised this question before, but I got no solution. I have added a visual editor and citoid extensions, but when I try the "cite feature" I do not know how to enable other formats aside from "basic". I would like a "books" and "journals" templates, or better yet, a system like en:Wikipedia where I just throw a link around and it tries to automatically fill and matches it to the appropriate template. I have copied all the modules and templates I could think of from en wiki, but I am unable to copy this one:. When I save that one I get Error: Lua error at line 2: unexpected symbol near '/'. I seriously want to use my wiki more frequently, but not being able to solve this wards me off. MaGoV (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC) MaGoV (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok I think I solved it, I had to use Special:Import instead. I now uploaded all modules and templates using that but still cite button does not show anything else aside from "Basic".
 * Solved, after uploading everything cited here, it worked. MaGoV (talk) 18:54, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I need contributors on my wiki!
I need contributors on my wiki, https://aboutpcs.miraheze.org/wiki/. The wiki is about PCs and I need more templates, userboxes, styling, some scripts/gadgets, and some articles. Please ask on my talk page there if you want admin/bureaucrat permission. Wikieditor668 (talk) 18:31, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Please use Gazetteer of wikis for this Naleksuh (talk) 18:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I gave permission to Wikieditor668 to post one thread on community noticeboard to invite contributors and volunteers to his wiki, clearly stating what sort of work he needs assistance with. This is part of the scope of community noticeboard. That's not to say he can start more than one thread, or even that it is likely to bring contributors. As I also stated, writing good, helpful content will bring community and contributors/volunteers in time. But, if he insisted on creating one thread, it's no issue. It's somewhere between likely useless at best and harmless at worst. Potentially, someone may be inspired to also write on this topic, though I do believe that, ultimately, one has to write engaging, informative content and have an aesthetically appealing design to one's wiki. Dmehus (talk) 19:20, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, you can borrow templates from my wiki if you need to. Here's an example of a userbox and here's our own infobox. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 16:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I feel like quitting Miraheze
Due to the reception wikis ruining this website's reputation. It also caused the website to be filled with a lot a user hate pages. IvanTheGreat (talk) 14:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Instead of rushing to create posts that contain only a single sentence or two, why don't you compose a thorough and exhaustive report about one or more problematic Reception wikis? Note that the more thorough and exhaustive your reports are, the more likely it is to be taken seriously by stewards, particularly if it can be seen that a wiki has systemic Content Policy violations or its users are egregiously and repeatedly violating the Code of Conduct despite warnings to stop. In addition, I would also suggest finding a non-Reception wiki in which you can contribute to. Dmehus (talk) 15:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * There isn't wikis I can edit on, besides Fandom is better anyways IvanTheGreat (talk) 15:58, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I would disagree with that. Have you searched Special:WikiDiscover? It seems to me you tend to gravitate yourself to the Reception wikis. If you'd broaden your horizons, or start your own wiki, taking care to define a clear purpose, scope, and topic for your wiki, you could edit your wiki in relative peace and solitude. However, peace and solitude may not be what you're after, so I wish you all the best at Fandom. Dmehus (talk) 16:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

MediaWiki Version 1.35 is displaying ogg files differently
Hi, I am using extension TimedMediaHandler for displaying ogg files in my Wiki and was perfectly satisfied with the way it was working. With the new MediaWiki version 1.35 things have changed. When I click on the play button a new window pops and the rest of the window is locked check out here. Before the upgrade I could even play more than one ogg files in one window simultaneously. Is this a bug or a feature, can I change this behaviour? Thank you for your support Lily (Manuela) (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 09:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Internal Error
I'm back. Altcyclopedia (altcyclopedia.miraheze.org), my work of art, is having trouble once again. When I've try and load pages lately, I keep getting abrupt errors instead (example: [988d550ea8bb7ef9eab631f3] 2020-11-09 20:54:13: Fatal exception of type "Error"), and I've also ended up with CSS-less layouts. I don't have a  that is said to resolve the problem, so how do I fix it? - ManiacACS (talk) 21:01, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've reported this issue to, two of our system administrators. Either of them should be able to trace this issue for you, but we probably will want to create a Phabricator ticket for this. Dmehus (talk) 21:11, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Phabricator ticket #T6423 has been created for this request. Please sign-in with your Miraheze MediaWiki login, and, with the power of OAuth authentication, a Phabricator account will be created for you. There, you can provide more details on this error. Dmehus (talk) 21:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Just did. I've sent some screenshots to aid you in fixing the bug. ManiacACS (talk) 21:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This was ✅ by, who deployed the necessary fix(es). For further details, for anyone following this thread, please see the Phabricator ticket. Dmehus (talk) 05:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Blocked for unknown reason.
Your username or IP address has been blocked. The block was made by ‪Zeephare‬. The reason given is Unacceptable username. * Start of block: 17:09, 30 October 2020 * Expiration of block: infinite * Intended blockee: ‪Hrvcfr‬ You can contact ‪Zeephare‬ or another administrator to discuss the block. You can use the "Email this user" feature if a valid email address is specified in your preferences and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is [REDACTED], and the block ID is #483. Please include all above details in any queries you make. Hrvcfr (talk) 13:14, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Firstly, as Meta patroller has already pointed out, please make sure you redact any personally identifying technical details, such as your IP address, when posting publicly any error messages you receive. Secondly, normally, community noticeboard wouldn't be used to discuss local blocks on Miraheze community wikis; however, as far as I can tell, you've made only one (1) contribution (which has been deleted, so it may have been your user or user talk page) to Awesome Games Wiki and zero (0) contributions to Crappy Games Wiki, where you were blocked first. It seems to me the Awesome Games Wiki could've been a copycat block. Your username certainly doesn't violate our global Username Policy in any way, and I'm not aware of any local username policies on those wikis, so I'm going to ping  to this thread and advocate for clemency for you in this case that would result in you being (hopefully) unblocked, provided you, of course, agree to follow their local rules and guidelines in your future contributions and to discussing with them where you are unsure. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 15:58, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I will unblock him right away. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 16:01, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * He's now ✅ as it's not a username policy violation. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 16:04, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your quick consideration of this for . When I saw that block originally, I figured you guys must've been thinking it was the random characters of a spambot or something, so this really does seem like an innocent mistake. I do strongly recommend you reach out to DarkMatterMan4500 on his local user talk page on each of those wikis so he can point you to any style guidelines they have for creating articles on those wikis, so your edits don't end up being reverted. Dmehus (talk) 16:09, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, it seemed to be the case. We've dealt with spam-bots before on our wikis. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 01:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Reviving a Dead Fandom Community
Back in July of yesteryear a rather medium-sized community on Fandom adapted from the brainchild of a FA (fat admirer) DeviantArt user named Fan2000 shut down after nine years on the server. The community’s name was FATWORLD and its focus was on female celebrities photoshopped to make them look immensely overweight.

If I recall correctly, there were six categories or weight classes if you want to be fancy consisting of Svelte, Below Average, Average, Above Average, Extraordinary, and Super Sized. The reason it was closed because it was somewhat fetishy. Is this the right place to revive it?

And also I never heard of this very wiki until the new decade if it were not for a quick Google search on one of Wolf Tracer’s two known productions, which is severely obsolete on first generation tablet byproducts. Lights off, 67.81.161.226 23:34, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * 67.81.161.226 That sounds reasonable, provided your wiki will be not be shaming real people for their body types, though it doesn't sound like that will be the case. As long as you articulate a clear purpose, topic(s), and scope for your wiki, usually in approximately two to three complete sentences, and it complies with Content Policy, you can request a wiki. To do that, though, you must first create an account and login, taking care to read user accounts policy. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:47, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Twinkle added
Hi everyone. Twinkle has now been re-enabled after being disabled some months ago. You can use it to revert edits, find diffs, and request deletion. I've quiokly de-Wikipedia-ified it to get it ready for immediate use, but will fine-tune it more over time. You can enable it from Special:Preferences in the "gadgets" section. Let me know any issues! Naleksuh (talk) 07:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Last time I remembered, it takes 10 days for it to be active if you were more active on this wiki. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 13:27, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I got a error with Twinkle with the Vector skin ([[Media:Error with Twinkle.png|see this image]]), can you take a look please ? and thanks for re-enabled Twinkle HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 15:05, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by it taking 10 days? It is active right now. Naleksuh (talk) 19:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, fixed. Naleksuh (talk) 19:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Uh, in Request for permissions I can't add anything because the page is protected? What happened?
SoyokoAnis (talk) 12:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. You are able to consult the reasoning behind a page protection by going to "View History" and then right under the title of the page accessing "View logs for this page"; in this case, a decision to protect was made months ago due to many unexperienced users attempting to requests rights that were not appropriate for them. I do agree that the measure is perhaps too strict considering that it also denies regular users the possibility to vote. With that being said, was it your intention to request a right? If so, it's probably best that you do wait until you've been here a bit more and become autoconfirmed before requesting an advanced right. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm new to wiki editing and I'm confused, help?
I'm trying to set up a private wiki for a small roleplaying/worldbuilding/writing group, but I don't really know how to set up templates and other fancy things. I've been struggling with it and even trying to use a FANDOM for testing and setting things up, but things don't copy over cleanly and everything seems very complicated. I'd just use FANDOM but I wanted this to be private, and FANDOM's leadership and corporate blah blah blah honestly wigs me right out. But everything's set up automatically for you there... Is there a quick start guide or something someone can direct me to? I'm trying to set up basic stuff like stub templates and...just general stuff I guess, and I'm honestly feeling pretty stupid. I've tried reading documentation and looking at source code for how others have done it and ???? I'm very lost and overwhelmed. I'm sorry, thank you for reading! Verne (talk) 18:05, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * First, welcome to Miraheze and to Meta. Second, I would start with FAQ and Help center. Community noticeboard is for very specific, clearly articulated technical support questions regarding your wiki. For these sort of things, I recommend you join us on Discord, verify your wiki account by typing   in any channel once you join our Discord server, and then ask your clear and specific questions. Dmehus (talk) 18:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, my apologies! I'll join the Discord, then, thank you! Verne (talk) 18:13, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries. Community noticeboard is fine for clearly articulated, specific technical problems on your wiki and general support questions, but without a clear question, it's best to obtain one-on-one help on Discord or IRC, and we can help you formulate the best question(s) for you. ✅. Dmehus (talk) 18:19, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Issues with collapsible lists
Ever since the update, collapsible lists (Template:Collapsible list) no longer work. I have tried importing the template from the template.miraheze.org wiki and even that does not solve the issue. OIMGov (talk) 12:43, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

the Visit Speed of Miraheze
I have spoken to RhinosF1 on Nov.1 about that. And he told me that it seemed to be a restriction.

I think it might be about CIIE from Oct.29 to Nov.10. But untill now, the speed is still slow.

Lots of users of my wiki complain that to me. I seem to be made to change a wiki farm to get faster speed.

--开炸弹车 (talk) 05:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * If this refers to China, we have no control over the issues unfortunately. We are aware of reports of Miraheze being inaccessible in China. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:43, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Daytime(from UTC 22:00 to UTC 8:00) is OK, but at night(from UTC 8:00 untill go to bed),the speed is so slow. The speed of them is a little different. I donnot think that is about restrictions. --开炸弹车 (talk) 13:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Can someone import the entire Harry Potter Wiki to miraheze
Hello!

I am not an admin on the fandoms site, but a disgrunted user who represent a suite of people of who have been burned, and crucified by the community over there. Mistreatment, lack of proper respect by Fandom staff, the forced and botched UCP upgrade, and just not listening to the users. Thus, a set of us are dedicated to migrating the site out of there. Thus I am requesting helping migrating the content over to Miraheze. Especially needed are the images. Thank you. Losira (talk) 17:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello, welcome to Miraheze. I believe the FAQ should help you. R4356th (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello and thank you for the welcome. I read it and I am working on it. However, it does not work on images, so I am wondering if the system admins can help with that aspect. Losira (talk) 17:51, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This has been answered here. Further replies should occur in that thread. Dmehus (talk) 18:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Interwiki request for arkadditions.miraheze.org
On arkadditions.miraheze.org, please add ark.gamepedia.com to the interwiki table under name "ark". Alex4401 (talk) 17:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This is ✅. Please ping me know if you need anything further. Dmehus (talk) 18:20, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Alex4401 (talk) 18:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, and you're most welcome. Dmehus (talk) 18:23, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

There must be a mistake
Different History Wiki got the "closed" notice by mistake. As you can see, I removed the "closed" thing from ManageWiki, so again, must be an error: https://differenthistory.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

There are other wikis with this problem as well. Also, I still can't do visual editing on said wiki.

Trevor807 (talk) 12:32, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

My wikis have been closed (last edit was today!!!)
This must be an error, pls check thank you Lily (Manuela) (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden) 12:45, 16 November 2020 (UTC)