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How story be better
Everyone here adds a lot of bad qualities so im been asking tons questions and comments. You or everyone has not answered me. I don't understand

So if you can all write all bad and good why not add

How the story could be better story. --Catfire94 (talk) 23:22, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you elaborate on what you mean? I'm unable to understand what your question is. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 23:25, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Change the font of my wiki
Hi, I would like to know how to change the writing font of my wiki (https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/). I would like to change it to Trebuchet MS. Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 10:47, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * You can add:

div, html, footer, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 { font-family: Trebuchet MS, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; }
 * to MediaWiki:Common.css. Silicona (talk) 11:16, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Switching from to  ?
I would like to request Miraheze to switch reCAPTCHA on registration from  to   instead. According to Google Can I use reCAPTCHA Enterprise globally?, scripts loaded from the two URLs seem to be equivalent. The only difference is that  is blocked in some areas (yes I mean mainland China) while the latter   is globally accessible. As is mentioned in the community noticeboard Community_noticeboard, switching to the alternative URL can really make Miraheze more accessible to Chinese users. Thank you! Kanakana (talk) 03:30, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * We actually switched back on purpose from repatcha.net recently due to a bug which made ReCAPTCHA return very low scores to legitimate users which stopped them from registering. If we are able to fix that issue then we’ll migrate back but I do not see that happening for the foreseeable future sadly. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:33, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response! Alternatively, if ReCAPTCHA is handled by the ConfirmEdit extension, maybe it is possible to modify the code to let the user decide what URL to load ReCAPTCHA from. For example I forked MirahezeMagic to allow users switching between the two with url params  (although it is just a proof-of-concept and ugly coded). In this way, normal users will not be bothered and those having connectivity issues can be guided to the workaround (with some notice on that page or in the error message maybe). Kanakana (talk) 09:22, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

TimedMediaHandler - why does it play music like if it was video ?
Hello.

I don't know why, but, when i clik on audio files format on the wiki, it makes appear a little window like if it was a video....

player appareance when it does that (see, no time bar)

little screen popping when clicking on that player

BUT sometimes when i disable the extension, and then re enable it, it play it in the wiki page in the litle player bar... (yeah, the one with the time axis inside it, that does not make appear a little screen when clicking on it, but play it in the little bar... like yeah, if it was music, and not video! (it IS music....)) and then, little time after playing some;;; it makes appear again the little video screen when clicking on the little plyer bar, for all music files...

This makes not navigation simple

there is no parameters that i can change in the config page...(except authorize or not mp4;;;) most of them are hidden and unchangeable by me

maybe i could ask in phabricator ?

But, anyway is there a way to fix it? Brbrbr1mill (talk) 14:41, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Unable to backup my wiki
I'm unable to dump the xml for Scruffy wiki, as posted at T8994. Please could I have a dump of the xml for scruffy.miraheze.org? Rob Kam (talk) 13:52, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Fixed by deleting and restoring one of the pages. --Rob Kam (talk) 23:04, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

i'd like to make a forum page like this one on my wiki, how .?
HELLO, as i said in the title, where can i find the wikicode to make a page like this one ? when i click midify on this page, i find strange lines of codes i d'ont understand.. for example, i'd like to put the system with the button "add a topic" (and i didnt find it in the wikicode so i think it may be some template or something i dont understand... if someone can explain it to me a little, that would be nice!

thanks. Brbrbr1mill (talk) 16:31, 7 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, all you’d need to do is import Community_noticeboard/header from meta. Be sure to include templates (optional) and subpages (definitely better to do, as you most likely wouldn’t wish to manually import all of the subpages). For the “Add topic” one, if you’re referring to the button on the header, it would be InputBox under Parser Hooks. -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 19:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

How do you make an OOUI Special Page, and a JS toolbox tool?
As per the title, I wish to learn how to make an OOUI special page or a JS tool on the toolbox menu. -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 22:41, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

"Enter confirmation code" when linking to external site on mobile editor
Hello! Whenever I embed an external link on a mobile edit, it prompts me for a "Enter confirmation code" box. I'm not sure what confirmation code is referring to, though. When doing the same steps on desktop view, it gives me a reCAPTCHA (v3) challenge instead. Is that normal? Thanks. ImpostorizedSFLS (talk) 12:59, 9 April 2022 (UTC)


 * This will happen on wikis where you do not have the skipcaptcha right. Here on meta that is in the Autoconfirmed user group, but may vary on other wikis. IAmChaos (talk) 17:45, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ImpostorizedSFLS, in addition to what IAmChaos has said, if you have asked local administrators to grant you the  user group temporarily, and they've not responded, or do not appear to be recently active, you may request this permission from Stewards at Stewards' noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 17:48, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Users contributions
Hello, how can I see the users' contributions on my wiki? When I search for their nickname and click on "Contributions", it is empty Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 13:49, 9 April 2022 (UTC)


 * That probably means that user hasn't made any undeleted edits. Go to https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/, replacing the  with the username. Or try Special:DeletedContributions for deleted edits. IAmChaos (talk) 17:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Courtesy ping: IAmChaos (talk) 17:43, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Darkrai18, which user? It's quite likely the reason IAmChaos suggests. Dmehus (talk) 17:46, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Football/Soccer wiki. (not self advertising)
I'll be quick, footyworld is a miraheze wiki on the game / players etc. If interested message me on my talk page, here, or send a hello at the wiki. Thank you for your time. SperosDurrell (talk) 21:02, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

A JS snippet I've just imported isn't working
...no matter how much I've tried it out so far, tweaked the code, or purged the cache.

For my conlang dictionary, I decided to bring back a bit of code today from the old Referata version thereof. At this writing, this is how it's shaped up (from my site's Common.js):

As part of a current test run of the Interlinear feature, I'm trying to make my examples look like those at B.D. Chauvette's. So far, though, the raw code has been unable to change as such (although a few early attempts managed to render bold or italic text properly).

So, to and/or  Did I do it the right way, or is something amiss in the structure (especially as far as the last bit is concerned)? (Nominating anyone else in this field here to give me a hand.)

P.S. My site got mentioned minutes ago at T9031 (thanks to recent problems with refreshLinks). Routhwick (talk) 14:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi unpkg.com is not in the CSP whitelist so won't work without a phab task. Apologies for the rubbish job queue, I hope that's not had too much impact.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  14:13, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the CSP reminder. In that regard, here's the most recent CSP-compatible version:
 * Sorry, pre and indents don't mix well. --Routhwick (talk) 14:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC) Fixed up a week later. --Routhwick (talk) 10:23, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The day after the last reply (last week), I finally got it to work. Valid code follows below:
 * With that out of the way, I leave you with this overview of the local Leipzig.js installation at my creative-venture wiki. Take care!
 * P.S. Thanks to RegexFunctions being recently disabled per T8866, the Dictionary entries and morpheme tables (among other pages) are not in the best of shape design-wise (e.g. Entry:erumi and its morpheme-table counterpart). Once everything returns to normal, I'll remind you. --Routhwick (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * With that out of the way, I leave you with this overview of the local Leipzig.js installation at my creative-venture wiki. Take care!
 * P.S. Thanks to RegexFunctions being recently disabled per T8866, the Dictionary entries and morpheme tables (among other pages) are not in the best of shape design-wise (e.g. Entry:erumi and its morpheme-table counterpart). Once everything returns to normal, I'll remind you. --Routhwick (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

InfoBox not inheriting value of headercolor and headerfontcolor
I've been trying to import the following templates:

https://funkipediamods.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Character

https://funkipediamods.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:ModInfo

When I use the template, it doesn't register the value of the header color and headerfont color. No matter what color is used, it only sticks to one.

I'm not sure if I imported it wrong or if I need to add a certain code to fetch the value on css. FunkipediaFandom (talk) 00:25, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I changed the colour from hex number to colour name and is working now mh:funkipediamods:Template:Character PercyUK (talk) 08:54, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Although I was hoping it was possible to use the hex color codes for it. Could there be a reason as to why the color names work, but not the hex codes? FunkipediaFandom (talk) 14:59, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * To add, I did try the simple hex codes (#000000 and #FFFFFF) which work, but the complex ones (eg. #DBB7FF) do not FunkipediaFandom (talk) 18:45, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * For future reference, I would like to note that a solution was found on Discord where it was necessary to use lowercase letters in the hex code rather than uppercase letters. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Replace text on articles
Where can you find the text replacement shortcut feature to replace text on articles? I did it a while back but I forgot where to go to make the change happen. If you can, someone please help. Thanks FineLime (talk) 00:46, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe you're seeking ReplaceText, available at Special:ReplaceText on your wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:45, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

I need help!
I can't create an account here! Every time I try to create an account it always shows "There are some problem in your input"(what it is actually I have forgotten) and "this value is required". 113.65.229.22 04:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC) Ok, problem found, my fault. I'm from China so I have no access to the google recaptcha.--

Problem with line not appearing
Hello, here is my problem: I wanted to place a line under a title on this page: https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Supergirl It appears in preview: ; But when I save the page, it disappears: Why? Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 12:58, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Interwiki request
For dmlwiki.miraheze.org

Requested Prefix: anothereden

Requested Prefix Link: https://anothereden.miraheze.org/wiki/$1

Forward (Yes/No): No

Transclude (Yes/No): No

Thanks! CrystalClear (talk) 22:38, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Noting that this was actioned many days ago by me by request on Discord. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:47, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Betaheze
Hello! I saw that I have a betaheze account. When I first logged in I was able to log in, but when I logged in a second time it told me the password was wrong, even though I logged in with the same password the first time. Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 19:11, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Now writes "No active login attempt is in progress for your session.". AlPaD (talk) 19:15, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I was checking your account's Betaheze CentralAuth and it claims you registered on Betaheze Beta but I see that CentralAuth claims you attached to the wiki rather than created your account which is strange. This will need further inspection but as there's not much need for Betaheze usage outside of SRE, I don't think this should be a huge inconvenience to you. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello! The account was created automatically and I don't need it. I just wanted to know why it wouldn't let me connect. Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 20:05, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Nevertheless, based on my conversations with Agent Isai and Universal Omega related to similar issues I'm having, they're leaning towards clearing out the Betaheze user table and just using the same CentralAuth table as Miraheze, as it's clearly not working. Dmehus (talk) 07:07, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Where can I find sitemap?
I want to submit sitemap for this wiki on search-engines. But I can't find the sitemap file. Where I will find the sitemap? And how? খাত্তাব হাসান (talk) 04:09, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you help me with this? খাত্তাব হাসান (talk) 15:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You can find the sitemap going to /sitemap.xml on your wiki (for example, for Meta, the sitemap is at https://meta.miraheze.org/sitemap.xml so for your wiki, it'd be at https://sharqedia.ml/sitemap.xml). Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:42, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! খাত্তাব হাসান (talk) 10:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Unwanted spacing added and wrong placement within my template
Hello, In this template: Test_Template_11 I am calling a couple other templates. When Test_Template_11 is rendered, there are all these additional spaces there that shouldn't be (why are the tables so tall, with the Language table three times the height of the others?)

Also, on this page that is created using that template [https://parentratings.miraheze.org/wiki/Take_2_for_the_Win! Test_Page_2], the values selected in the form appear below the tables (instead of within the tables where they should be), and there is additional spacing below the tables and between the values as well.

How can I get rid of these extra spaces and make the values appear in the tables instead of below them? I didn't have these troubles when I tested on this page different_test_page

Thanks! ParentRatings (talk) 20:40, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

When Test_Template_11 is rendered, there are all these additional spaces there that shouldn't be (why are the tables so tall, with the Language table three times the height of the others?) Placing #switch on the next line tells the template to ask the switch likewise. I have adjusted mh:parentratings:Template:Test Template 11 to hide.

the values selected in the form appear below the tables (instead of within the tables where they should be) Has the template closed as marked below and the other templates floated down the page? <!- HERE ? -->

PercyUK (talk) 21:25, 16 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help!
 * As per the first problem - thanks for showing me how to edit out those spaces!
 * The second problem of the values being pushed down the page is perhaps because of the way I created the form for editing this page. You can see that form here. I have created the form to call from different templates so that I can format the "edit with form" page in a way that I really like (which you can see here). I need to call test template 11 first in order to use that template for my new page, but I like having different sections marked with borders during the "edit with form" process.
 * Is there a way to preserve my formatting on my "edit with form" page while keeping the final page from pushing the content further down the page? ParentRatings (talk) 05:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @PercyUK Nevermind! I figured out how to format my form using html divs instead of separate template calls, so this should fix the issue by letting me just use one template call in my form. Thanks so much for your help! :) ParentRatings (talk) 20:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Setting up sister wiki project links (RESOLVED)
I previously posted a question/request but it seems to have disappeared. I have been scrapping some content from Wikipedia for my wiki, and sometimes I run across wikilinks that use the abbreviated sister project format for the link such as: word, and I am wondering how I can go about setting it up so that it properly formats and links to the external sister project wiki?

For instance, some of the citation templates I have copied over from Wikipedia link to the Encyclopedia Birtianica public domain sister wiki site. I am hoping to make it so the word sister site link works as it does on Wikipedia. Any help of guidance would be greatly appreciated. — Mitchell Gore (talk) 18:42, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Mitchell Gore, thank you for your question. This requires requesting a wiki for each sister project wiki. Each wiki must have a clear purpose, scope, and content topic(s) it will write about and be compliant with Content Policy. Once that's done, you can reach out to a global interwiki administrator or a steward to add interwiki prefixes (or interlanguage prefixes) to your wikis' local interwiki tables. Local prefixes can be same as the global interwiki table, but they will override the global configuration. If one of your wikis will be using a central data repository wiki or image repository wiki, there are some other configuration changes that will be required. With regard to the latter, though, we do have Miraheze Commons that is quite useful for this purpose, and we're pretty flexible on copyrighted content used under fair dealing/fair use provisions, so long as it is properly attributed, sourced, the licensing is correct and available, and, indeed, constitutes fair dealing/fair use. Finally, if you will be wanting to transwiki import pages to/from the sister project wikis, you will need to perform a pull request in . In terms of interwiki prefixes, though, you may qualify to be a local interwiki administrator. If you are the only active contributor to the wiki (i.e., no other contributors in the past 12 months or so), by Steward convention, we can dispense with the formalities of a local election. Otherwise, you just need to hold a local election, ideally with a local sitenotice, then attend stewards' noticeboard after about seven (7) calendar days to link to your election request. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 18:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, but I am not looking at setting up sister wikis themselves. I am simply looking to have the sister inter wiki links work so that (for example) when I copy a passage with a citation from a Wikipedia page that has their word interwiki link, it redirects to their sister wiki (i.e. the actual page link like a proper inter wiki links does). – 21:25, 17 April 2022 (UTC) Mitchell Gore (talk) 21:25, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Mitchell Gore, oh okay, that's just adding a prefix to the sister wiki, but I'd need your sister wiki addresses in the format of  where   is the   variable defined in your example. I would also need the prefix to use, as defined by s, in your example, and whether you want to be able scarily transclude pages from the sister wiki on your wiki, or whether you want bots to be able to follow links or return a bad title error. Dmehus (talk) 21:35, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If you're just looking to cite English Wikipedia, the interlanguage prefixes are coded by default to automatically be enabled for the global interwiki prefixes. In that case, you just code them like this:, where   is the prefix from the global or local interwiki table on Miraheze, and   is the ISO language code. So, it's essentially   Dmehus (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am already using the word for using an external Wikipedia interlink on my wiki.
 * As to the target sister wiki, the URL is:
 * https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/
 * But I am not sure how to complete the rest of what you say is needed. This is all coming from the Template:Cite EB1911 I copied over and am using, which is a wrapper of the Template:Cite encyclopedia which I also copied over to my wiki. Mitchell Gore (talk) 22:10, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Mitchell Gore, ah, interlanguage prefixes only work on the same top-level domain, or subdomain, of the given interwiki prefix with which you're working. In this case, the prefix you want is . If using a non-English Wikisource, you'd combine that with  . The templates you cite are from English Wikipedia, though, so I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do. Which templates on English Wikisource are you trying to link to? Dmehus (talk) 22:17, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I solved it. According to this: Help:Interwiki linking on Wikipedia, the shortcut should invoke the  Interwiki linking but doesn't.
 * So going back into the Template:Cite wikisource/make link and using instead of  solves it, and makes the citation template work properly now.
 * FYI, source: does not work, but must be to work. Mitchell Gore (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

SimpleTooltip causing formatting errors
Hello, Whenever I use tip-text option within a bulleted list, the next bullet is indented. If I used tip-info (with the (i) icon) or do not use simpletooltip the next bulleted item is fine. You can try for yourself on this test page/form I have created by selected option 1 (brief) from the first dropdown and seeing the added indent, which is removed when the first dropdown is anything other than Brief.

Is there a way to remove this improper indent coming from SimpleTooltip?

Thanks! ParentRatings (talk) 20:46, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

mh:thehorriblemusicandsongswikia:D4nny
What is going wrong here? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 02:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The same is happening here. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 02:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear, use   insted of  . I hope, It will help. খাত্তাব হাসান (talk) 19:08, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Captcha problem
I have a problem now. My worldbox wiki is mainly edited by world box players in mainland China. They usually don't have enough wiki experience. But in order to enrich the content of the wiki, I invited a large number of users from those players' QQ groups to contribute. However, many users have encountered problems when registering, and they will display "this value is required" when registering (however, there is no information about the verification code in the screenshot they sent, and of course some did not encounter the verification code problem), I Hopefully, the image tap verification can be removed, and a Wikipedia-like letter verification code or a simple addition and subtraction verification code can be used.This can help Chinese users Isutan (talk) 04:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Users can e-mail  in order to request that an account be created for them if they are unable to do so themselves. — Chrs (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, is it possible to customize the verification code on the wiki (requires a text answer)? Isutan (talk) 02:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Email doesn't solve anything. A lot of people ignore email. Isutan (talk) 02:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I am one of the victim of the problem, I hope the captcha can be changed to something else ---120.231.135.206 13:03, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

How to add google-site-verification code to my wiki?
How to add google-site-verification code to my wiki?

The 

doesn't work, result is:

Error: tag must contain at least one non-empty attribute. Lalo5555 (talk) 18:46, 18 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Please go to  and locate the , in the box insert only the   without the tag or quotes before and after it. Just the G-xxxxxxxxx. --   Joseph  TB  CT  CA   22:05, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Lalo5555 (talk) 22:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

How long until category pages update?
My wiki was recently moved over onto Mirahze, as in everything finished moving two days ago, but so far none of the category pages have updated. I've tried using the "purge page" method and clearing my browser's cache as well, but nothing happened. Special Pages such as "Unused files" and "Uncategorized pages" are also not updating. Some pages and files have been added if I've edited them, but I can't go through an null edit thousands of pages just so they appear in their categories.

How long does it take for these pages to update and to list the pages/files that they should? Clarasiir 10:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * After imports, MediaWiki tends to not refresh any categories until 3-4 weeks after the import concludes. This is solvable by running refreshLinks.php via the shell in order to fix all categories. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:40, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what to do with that information. Is running a php maintenance script something I can even do? It seems like I would need access to things I don't have access to.
 * I tried using Windows PowerShell with "$ ssh -p 22 root@examplewiki.com" but all I get are errors saying terms are not recognized. Clarasiir 03:25, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is not something you have access to. I was noting that the solution would be for someone with shell access to run the script. Please file a Phabrictor task requesting it be run on your wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:32, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. I thought you meant that it was my job to do that. I will file a Phabricator request. Clarasiir 03:40, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Unable to read Chinese uncyclopedia on miraheze, what happened?
I’ve tried to read pages expect main page, it said “permission error” message to me, also other miraheze-based uncyclopedia projects are inaccessible, tell me what happened? (Hmm likely those wiki become private bc only members and admins, even only admins to access those wikis. Yage Wu (talk) 08:31, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


 * It seems like only users in the "Member" group, or administrators can access the wiki. I don't read Chinese, but is there a way to gain  access? IAmChaos (talk) 14:25, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Conjuring file types
So about Mediawiki#Conjuring file uploads, how/where do you access the exact location of Manual:LocalSettings.php? SecretSpyer (talk) 00:22, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * On Miraheze, most things are done via ManageWiki and not through LocalSettings.php. To enable a file extension, go to Special:ManageWiki/settings -> Media. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

日本語で失礼
Mirahezeで構築したWikiで管理者がインターウィキを編集できるようにするにはどうすればいいのでしょうか. --ナムコォッ！ (talk) 06:37, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * User:ナムコォッ！さん:mirahezeではインターウィキ管理者にしかinterwikiを編集することは出来ません. interWiki管理者権限はスチュワードのみが付与可能です. に立候補するには、グローバル編集回数が1000回以上、もしくはこのWikiでの編集回数が500回以上である必要があります. --1108-Kiju /talk 02:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

To all users of Extension:Preloader...
Please note that there is an upstream bug (reported on GitLab back in April 2021) wherein  and   either do not transform at all or, in this contributor's case, remain fully intact in the raw code. A merge/fix was also proposed back then, but has not been acted upon for lack of maintainers. Original co-developer Robchurch all but disappeared from Wikimedia ages ago; later maintainer troyengel's involvement with the extension has been nil for several years; and Wikimedia Phabricator retired bug tracking in early October 2018. (Reported/observed at mw:Topic:Wtumv01tz8qmndq8 [Support desk thread] and w:Special:PermanentLink/1083469433 [Village pump (technical)].)

Special:Version (at least on my wiki) shows as the current maintainer of a locally maintained variant last updated on April 2. Perhaps he may see about the patch linked to above and find out what happens next?

P.S. To /// Know anyone else on GitLab, or anyone else who tends to extensions on this service? --Routhwick (talk) 15:01, 22 April 2022 (UTC)


 * We don't use the gitlab version. We use the fork at https://github.com/Universal-Omega/Preloader ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and created a request for Universal Omega to backport it at https://github.com/Universal-Omega/Preloader/pull/4 - anyone can do this though :) ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:41, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * After Preloader's upgrade finally went live on Miraheze last weekend, I gave the next template/doc page in my site's queue,, a go--and all in this system is working as well as it should now. Many thanks! --Routhwick (talk) 19:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

April 2022 Directors Meeting
Hello all, please see the latest agenda for the April 2022 Board of Director's meeting for Miraheze Limited. Any additional points people would like to raise, please let me know. Thank you, Owen (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Please allow pages on real-life people again on the negative reception wikis
Hi there. I was wondering if there was anyway of convincing the owners of Miraheze on changing their minds on allow pages on real-life people on the negative reception wikis? I understand the concern on posting qualities that are merely rumors, but information that is backed up with sources should be fine imo. If there could be pages on studios/companies and networks, then I don't see why there would be a problem with individuals because there are many examples with sources on how certain people lead to a downfall of a particular show, game, movie, etc. I feel like people should have the right to know about people who affected a property negatively because they would find it interesting. Sure, there are people that are toxic and could send death threats to these people, but that's why I think that a disclaimer should be added to these pages so users don't get any ideas on attacking others. I want to be in a safe community as much as the next guy, but I see this as a form of censorship. This policy is no better than YouTube removing the dislike counter on their videos. Please think it over and change the policy. Sofaking we todd it (talk) 03:28, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Please note that Miraheze has no "owners" in a traditional sense of "overall control over everything." All policies are approved by the community as in the case of the Content Policy which was ratified by a Request for Comments. There is no blanket ban on these types of wikis but it is up to each wiki creator to determine if a certain wiki request will violate the Content Policy. If you have any complaints about this policy, please get consensus from the community to change these policies as there is nothing a one single person can do to change this. Thanks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:39, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, we aren't allowing any pages negatively on people or celebrities, and there is nothing that will convince us to change our minds. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:25, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

something weird is happening
In a wiki i'm a mod in, the LGBTA wiki, I have learned of a weird error that occurs in some cases of opening the page where it redirects me to somewhere known as lgbtqia.wiki.

It seems to do this when i open a page via search, use the random page button, or after doing a edit(replying to something in a talk page does not count for some reason).

Any way to fix this? The Triple Trouble Collective (talk) 03:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * This was a change requested by your wiki's bureaucrat, Jeb, a while ago on Discord. The wiki is the same, it's just using a custom domain versus the normal .miraheze.org domain we provide. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:40, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh.
 * In my defense, I didn't know that. The Triple Trouble Collective (talk) 05:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The Triple Trouble Collective, oh, that's ✅. It's a good question, and likely other users will have the same, or a similar, question as you. :) Dmehus (talk) 05:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Customized gallery in a precise way?
Hello, I would like to know how to organize a kind of "gallery" of characters a bit like here: https://jojowiki.com/Phantom_Blood#Characters Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 16:36, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The source code is too complex on jojowiki to copy. So had a look around Fandom and found a basic charbox that could be modified - remove/move border, background colour, etc. I have created an example on the Test Wiki PercyUK (talk) 21:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, I'll check it out tomorrow. Darkrai18 (talk) 21:42, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Does Miraheze have any policy regarding apparent impersonation of a famous person?
In reference to this User talk post on All The Tropes, does Miraheze have any policy regarding apparent impersonation of a famous person?

(All The Tropes's policy is informal and implied at the moment: "Don't." We're in the process of writing it out explicitly.) Robkelk (talk) 12:48, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * As it stands, the Username Policy itself only prohibits "Usernames that are deliberately similar to other usernames in the possible scope of impersonation", so impersonating a real-life person that doesn't have a 'username' wouldn't seem to fall under the current global policy. However, I'd say that in a case of real life impersonation where the user is actually claiming to be that famous person a notice or warning could probably be issued to invite them to change their username as to not cause confusion, but it's probably best for a Steward to do that since it's a bit unusual. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 12:51, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * My input from Steward PoV is that Reception is correct, and it's something that should only be pushed when an actual claim of association is made especially if the username is not very formal and muddied with extra words as is the case here. You could even treat the reported name as a sentence, rather than a 'claim' to the name. Minimal intervention is preferred where faith can be given. --Raidarr (talk) 11:39, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Understood, and thank you both. --Robkelk (talk) 12:30, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Anyone helps me?
I'm a user from China. Everytime when I attempt to create an account, it always goes "There are some problems in your imput" and "This value is required". I just... Don't know what "problems" I do have or what "this value" mean! 223.73.115.1 08:22, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Please email cvt@undefinedmiraheze.org with your desired username, and we can get you set up in that way. --Raidarr (talk) 08:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

How to do span classes like how enwiki does class sysop-show?
So basically I copied the section of text from wikipedia:MediaWiki:Group-sysop.css and than changed the word sysop to (example) but when doing  on a page, it just showed up for both me and for my alt, who I did not put in the user group. I imagine that I am missing some step that should be obvious to me, but can't quite figure it out. Any help? tia --IAC (talk) 08:35, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Edit: Yes I did add , didnt leave it open and incase it matters I didnt have parenthesis in the actual word, was just using a placeholder here. --IAC (talk) 08:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Update: I would even just accept any way to show content to only a group that has opted in. I don't care if it's the same way that enwiki does, I just thought that would be easy since someones already done the work there. --IAC (talk) 08:48, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I could try helping you with this if you want? Pretty sure I might have fiddled with this before myself. Hypercane  (  talk ) 19:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, from what I've tested, it may be because you did not put something like this in your . My example is at the bottom of it for clarity.  Hypercane  (  talk ) 19:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Hypercane Thank you so much! Of course it's not gonna hide if it's not set to be hidden. Thanks! --IAC (talk) 11:17, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, glad to have helped! Hypercane  (  talk ) 11:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

About Discord
I can't get into Miraheze's Discord server from the URL in Discord. Maybe the URL has expired? --ナムコォッ！ (talk) 10:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Tested, the invite is in order. I'm not sure what the issue is I'm afraid, aside from connections to Discord perhaps being blocked locally. We may be able to troubleshoot depending on the error/issue you have. --Raidarr (talk) 11:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Miraheze.org/discord should point to a working invite. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:37, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Interest in Meta codification
I have observed some discussions and arguments here on Meta and would like to ask here whether there is any interest/support for a locally applicable Meta RFC to codify a number of these rules which appear to not be agreed upon by all (i.e. not editing other users' posts, users removing warnings from their talkpage, etc. etc.) Please respond to this thread if you would want this and I would create a draft RFC which all users can contribute to by adding their ideas of uncodified conventions that they think should become policy on Meta in order for them to be more clearly applicable. DeeM28 (talk) 09:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm in favor of stronger codification, especially where we take liberties explicitly accepting or rejecting certain Wikipedia processes. Convention only works as far as it is commonly accepted and unproblematic (in terms of community operation), and if it brings confusion or uncertainty then it needs to be codified even just broadly. I will say, the most determined challenger(s) I've noted from your examples tend to make themselves outliers in general, that is, generally steering towards controversy while making minimal efforts to clearly settle matters in an amicable way and also very aggressively challenge what others had been fine with when it became an inconvenience to them. But I've felt at least some hardening on meta process was needed for some time anyway. I know Doug has been working on a project (in doug time, of course :p) to bring some of these little tweaks for accuracy, clarity and good process, but I'm sure anyone's suggestions/compilation would be welcome/humored in the meantime. Especially the draft you suggest draft to be hammered out. In this case I do think more advanced discussion on this would be best suited on the Community portal, perhaps with key updates noted here for maximum reach. --Raidarr (talk) 11:34, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @other interested parties: I have opened a draft proposal for this and also notified on the Community portal as advised here. --DeeM28 (talk) 17:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Changing my theme color on Cosmos skin
How am I supposed to change the theme color of the Cosmos skin? Like, if I want the header color to be standard blue, the toolbar upwards color to be light blue, the article background color to be cyan, and the community background to be a separate image, what would I put at MediaWiki:Cosmos.css? BECAUSE DATS ('CAUSE DATS) 'CAUSE DATS ('CAUSE DATS) HOW IT IS 19:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Those settings can be changed at Special:ManageWiki/settings -> Styling on your wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:54, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Custom Domain Not Working
Custom Domain not working. Nameservers pointed as in the instructions. Cloudflare configured as instructed. CName setup as directed. Yet when I type the domain name irishfreemaninfo.com, the wiki gets a too many redirects error. However if I type the cname www.irishfreemaninfo.com I get a miraheze advertising page. There is no wiki there.

Are there further steps Franrodgers (talk) 19:50, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Did you follow step 4 in the Custom domains article? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I was a little confused by that step. I did not know if it was only for SSL or if it was for both. But I have done so now. Thank you. Consider this resolved and if you wish you can remove it with gratitude. Franrodgers (talk) 20:08, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Error generating thumbnails


For the last couple of days now, when uploading a new .svg file to my wiki, it fails to render a thumbnail on the file upload pages, as well as generating an error when creating the various automatic default .png view sizes. The .svg files itself uploads fine, and seems to render properly when the .svg is used as a file/image on an actual article page as long as the pixel size is defined as being under 140px or smaller.

The error message is shown in the screenshot on the right when you clock on any of the auto generated file size links.

Here is a link to a recently uploaded .svg file being used on a page at 140px which renders fine: https://harnica.miraheze.org/wiki/CSS_test_page_1#Test_SVG_file

Here is the actual .svg file which renders fine natively: https://static.miraheze.org/harnicawiki/2/28/Achievement-clan-taareskeld-02.svg

And where you can see the broken autogenerated thumbnail(s): https://harnica.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Achievement-clan-taareskeld-02.svg

Any help in resolving this would be greatly appreciated. Mitchell Gore (talk) 03:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org
If anyone wants to adopt dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org, you have my approval. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 13:34, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey, actually you can directly give the wiki to others if you don’t want to manage it anymore, simply just ask if others are interested in adoption in MediaWiki:Sitenotice on your local wiki. This way, your wiki will be still available for edit while others will know about this (the words you typed in the sitenotice will appear at the top of your site). I am afraid your wiki may be deleted according to the dormancy policy in the near future when you are not aware. Then you may lose a wiki given the fact that you are actually active.—Matttest (talk) 12:48, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

A question
More of a question on policy than anything else, but should we have one on role accounts for wikis? It's not really clarified if it's OK or not. Sevenhamptonsp50 (talk) 16:11, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * We do have this page, and we might just add that into the mix there. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Mind following up on this thread? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what 'one one role accounts' refers to exactly. In general if the accounts are not being used deceptively and contribute to the function of the wiki (a bot, an officially named account authorized by the wiki's management, even a split user account with disclosure of the alt) then they are not a problem. --Raidarr (talk) 22:09, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * A global policy about multiple or shared user accounts is the User accounts policy. You may want to check out Category:Global policies for a list of global policies of miraheze. —12:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

How do you allow coding to work on a wiki?
I am the founder of Lyric Meaning Translate Wiki, and judging by the way the first article on the wiki, mh:lyricmeaningtranslate:Hitler Was a Sensitive Man turned out, it appears that the and coding that usually allows words to automatically appear like lyrics (as seen on this article on mh:thebestmusicandsongswikia:Best Music Wiki for example) is not working like usual. How do I fix this? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 09:09, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * All extensions that are avaliable for your wiki be in the Special:ManageWiki/extensions page on your local wiki. For the tag, it should be at the section Special:ManageWiki/extensions (just copy the link to your local wiki), then check the box Poem for the extension. It should be working. --Matttest (talk) 09:21, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It's still not working. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 21:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey, as far as what I can see it should be working now. I think this is just a sort of system giltch/your browser cached the page. If it is still not working from your browser, try doing a hard reload. --Matttest (talk) 03:32, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, it appears to be working now. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 08:34, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

help regarding emails and smtp from miraheze servers
'''Are the emails configured in miraheze or manual work necessary? also if its configured is it phpmail{}?''' Many users were joining but on send email confirmation emails they don't receive it, I read in mediawiki docs that to configure smtp i need file access which too I don't have. So could any staff member help me regarding the issue. Also I want to use my own domain please suggest a way Amrit (talk) 08:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Emails are already configured by default. Please ask your users to check their spam folder and to be on the lookout from emails from noreply@undefinedmiraheze.org. As for custom domains, please checkout Custom domains though note that you cannot change the email from where MediaWiki sends notices. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 08:26, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

How do I activate intersein wikis extension: Other: Previews
In my https://intersein.miraheze.org/wiki/Hauptseite , How do I activate extension: Other: Previews: The box is greyed and says: Requires: Extensions - pageimages, textextracts Displays preview popups when the user hovers over a link" Please let me know how to get displayed preview popups when the user hovers over a link.

And please let me know if this is the right place to put sucvh a question. Thanks for your help Harriz (talk) 00:10, 13 May 2022 (UTC) Harriz (talk) 00:10, 13 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The "Requires" section is letting you know that you must first enable the PageImages and TextExtracts extensions in order to use Previews. You can enable these two extensions under Special:ManageWiki/extensions on your wiki. dross  (t • c • g) 01:34, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you Dross, this worked fine, I have now enabled Pageimages and TextExtracts and Previews extrensions.
 * What else do I do in order to see preview popups of internal links? Harriz (talk) 22:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It's only Popups (Previews) that can do it well, afaik, so basically, that's all you need. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   20:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Infobox problem
Hello, I have a problem with my infoboxes. I changed the color of the header to white. But the text inside must be black. The header changes color according to the color I put. I would like that when the header is not white, the text inside becomes white automatically. At the moment, the text remains black. And I obviously can't put a white text as I do now, because my header is white. The link of one of my infobox : https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Personnage Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 10:30, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I have altered the infobox and should change automatically. - PercyUK (talk) 18:48, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you . Darkrai18 (talk) 19:05, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bother you again but now I can't change the color of my header text. Darkrai18 (talk) 19:44, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I have added a 3rd option
 * if color=white, text=black
 * if color=not white, text=white
 * if color=not white, text= can change text color
 * PercyUK (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds perfect to me . Thanks to you. Darkrai18 (talk) 20:16, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Now that SMW has been enabled on my wiki...
...about time we brought in another Referata-era interwiki to match.


 * Wiki ID: constantnoble
 * Requested IW: smw (semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/$1 / Official Semantic MediaWiki site) (forwarded)

--Routhwick (talk) 23:28, 14 May 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ as requested. --Raidarr (talk) 21:43, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

My phabricator email is having typo now I can't login or register
I have written my email without .com at the end caused due to keyboard suggestion. Now I am not receiving verification email. So I am unable to fill form related to custom domain. ''respected sysops please help me as soon as possible '' Amrit (talk) 15:12, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * has corrected the typo - if you click the button to resend the verification email, it should hopefully work now. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 18:53, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Preview does not detect italics
Hello, I would like to know why the preview when you click on a link does not detect the italic. You can do the test here : https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/Mario_(Super_Mario) Bold is working, but italic is not. Thanks in advance. Darkrai18 (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Since no one replies here and I don’t understand what you mean, would you mind clarifying a bit what you are talking about? It would be helpful for me and other community members to help you resolve this issue. -Matttest (talk) 09:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, go to the page I indicated. Stay on a link without clicking. You'll get a preview of the page where the link leads, where you'll see some of the text on the page, as well as the image. However, the preview does not take into account the italic, and also only a part of the bold. If it's not clear enough, I'll post a screenshot. Darkrai18 (talk) 12:14, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

How do I change the wiki background on the Mirage skin?
How do you change the wiki skin color of the Mirage skin on MediaWiki:Mirage.css? BECAUSE DATS ('CAUSE DATS) 'CAUSE DATS ('CAUSE DATS) HOW IT IS 20:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Server Cannot Be found
Greetings, I’ve had my Wiki for around 4 or so days now and I’ve recently come across an issue where the link to open it says the server cannot be found.

My websites link: https://roblox-wiki.tk/wiki/ RollViral (talk) 08:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems you have made some changes to the dns after the wiki is set up - you change the nameservers from miraheze to cloudfare. I would suggest you to use configure it from freenom: my domains->select your domain and click manage domain->management tools->nameservers, and follow the guidelines stated in Custom domains, changing back the nameservers into ns1.miraheze.org and ns2.miraheze.org. If that doesn’t help, I think you need to go to phabricator to request that again, after all, don’t make any changes again. —Matttest (talk) 08:40, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I need help importing a dump to a wiki
What is an "interwiki prefix"? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 06:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * A prefix as listed in Special:Interwiki Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * So... what interwiki prefix would I need to enter when importing a dump file from Bad TV Channels Wiki to Worst TV Networks Wiki? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 03:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * and such could work. If not, you can ask an Interwiki administrator to add a prefix into the table for you. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:44, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Now I'm getting this message: "Import failed: Expected tag, got". FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 03:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 01:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Does the file start in ?  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 01:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't. Would there be a specific reason why? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 21:00, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 04:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Also, how do I lock editing on a wiki?
FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 00:27, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You can revoke the  right from the   and   group and perhaps reassign it to only administrators or autopatrolled/autoconfirmed users, etc.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:44, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

How do I disable anonymous editing on a wiki?
FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 02:11, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * FatBurn0000, thank you for your question. There are several ways to prohibit IP users from editing. One way is to set  to   in Special:ManageWiki/settings. Another way is to enable the EditSubpages extension in Special:ManageWiki/extensions. Yet another way is to remove the   user right from the   group on your wiki (via Special:ManageWiki/namespaces). Finally, another way is via an abuse filter on your wiki. There are other methods as well. In any case, your wiki should, ideally, have a community discussion prior to effecting this. Dmehus (talk) 02:17, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Dmehus explained it above, but I will comment on it in detail.
 * Please proceed as follows: Manage this wiki's permissions→Select existing group to edit→（everyone）→Submit→Uncheck "edit"→Save --1108-Kiju /talk 02:25, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * and Now that I think about it, I should probably just talk to you about the situation. I'm trying to remove the ability to edit on Bad TV Channels Wiki for everyone except bureaucrats and administrators. How do I do this? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 02:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * FatBurn0000 What's the reason behind this? I would note you encountered a similar issue on the since deleted, so such a change should have overwhelming consensus by all contributing users to the wiki, not merely by bureaucrats as otherwise you would be creating an insular, autocratic culture that protects bureaucrats. Dmehus (talk) 02:35, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Does this mean revoking all editing privileges except bureaucrats and administrators? To avoid confusion in the community, it is recommended that you set up the agreement ahead of time. 1108-Kiju /talk 02:43, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * and It's because I'm merging Bad TV Channels Wiki into Worst TV Networks Wiki. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 03:00, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * FatBurn0000, ah, that sounds fine then. Have you held a discussion at  and added a local sitenotice to the wiki that links to the discussion, so contributors can participate? Dmehus (talk) 04:03, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't know I had to start a discussion. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 04:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello? FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 01:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 23:44, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Request for Feedback: Changing the way we categorize wikis
Hi everyone!

SRE is soliciting the opinions of community members regarding a potential change to the way we categorize wikis. Currently, wikis are categorized under one category, as seen on Special:ManageWiki. Issues arise from time to time when wikis span across multiple fields which causes the wiki requesters to feel limited and select a category which perhaps describes their wiki only partially.

One idea thrown out there was to change the way we categorize wikis by swapping out categories for tags. This way, users can select all the tags they believe fit their wiki. This would allow for fine grain categorization and searching of wikis via Special:WikiDiscover and would contribute towards helping WikiDiscover replace the Gazetteer of Wikis. These tags would be much more specific than the general one-size-fits-all approach we take with categories.

What are your thoughts on this proposed change? If you support it, tell us what types of tags you would like to see (i.e. "Lifestyle, Fitness, Computers, Technology, Phones, Movies," etc.). If you don't support this, tell us why and what you propose instead. Thank you for your participation! Agent Isai Talk to me! 03:48, 24 April 2022 (UTC)


 * The concern I have with this isn't so much the proposed tags, but rather the plan to replace the wiki's category with the a tagging system. The reason for this is because the wiki's category is an important assessment point for Stewards and wiki creators in reviewing wiki requests against our Content Policy. For example, a wiki's purpose may not be specified, and the description could be a bit vague, but if there's a clear categorization together with one of the two, then then it may help with the approval decision. Another issue to moving towards a tag-based system is the loss of a controlled vocabulary system, in order to categorize like wikis with like wikis. Without a controlled vocabulary categorization or tagging system, this would be lost. In any case, any replacement of the existing category system must have an RfC closed by a Steward. An additional tagging system may not need an RfC, as it would be an additional feature, but again, to prevent creation of duplicate tags and ensure similar wikis are tagged similarly, any tags to be created should be controlled, requiring a GitHub pull request to be done to add them. Dmehus (talk) 04:00, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The concern I have with this isn't so much the proposed tags, but rather the plan to replace the wiki's category with a tagging system.
 * I recall when the exact same thing happened with DeviantArt submissions during their much-loathed Eclipse makeover a few years aback... (Suffice to say I've been all but absent from that platform since 2018 or so for unrelated reasons.) --Routhwick (talk) 07:04, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Wiki creators would still have the ability to see the selected tags and change them accordingly. Blanket categories would be converted to tags or potentially a tag would cause a "master" tag to also be applied (e.g. selecting "Computers" would also select the "Technology" tag) potentially but do note this is just an idea that we are soliciting feedback for. Additionally, as you may have noticed, I asked "what types of tags you would like to see" implying that tags would still be set via a GitHub PR. Thank you for your feedback though, this idea of maintaining both would be interesting to see. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:20, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Apart from the mechanics chosen to carry this out, the gist of this proposal is simply to enable wikis to have more than one classification. That's a good idea if we want classifications to be as useful as possible.  For example, I believe I classified the former "The Mirror" wiki as "comedy", but this classification was incomplete, as it was comedy strictly about news and current events.  But using the latter as its classification misses something even more signifcant, as it was certainly not a place you'd go to learn the news.   23:04 24-Apr-2022
 * I like very much the idea of tags. I think we can include tags as an additional way to categorise wikis. Is a great idea.
 * I like very much the idea of tags. I think we can include tags as an additional way to categorise wikis. Is a great idea.

My wiki tuscriaturas, also called The Bestiary of the golden Hippogriph is a project that spans several areas and i always feel the category restrict it. On the other side, i don't use the categories on my own wiki. I only spent a minute with that. I use categories more on wikidiscover to find wikis about fantasy and worldbuilding. My wiki encompasses mythology, philosophy, essay, literature, fantasy, roleplaying books, text about videogames, original fiction, fantasy about universes and other dimensions, etc. In other platforms there are tag based search to search for this topics. For example Disboard is a web to find discord servers by topic and their system of tags is very useful. --Avengium (talk) 20:44, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with Avengium, I like the idea of tags. In my opinion, tags would be very helpful on Miraheze for users to find other wikis that cater to those interests. This would also potentially increase the visibility of wikis when they can be found in more than one tag, as opposed to basically know ahead of time what category to look in, to find something (a bit of omniscience required perhaps with the current category structure). Tags would have made finding most of the great wikis I've stumbled across randomly over time, much, much faster. Increasing the ability to find and search would be very helpful, as well as promoting the different tags somewhere much more forward-facing--I'd recommend considering this also, as it's still somewhat of a mystery to many what types of sites/interests are hosted on Miraheze, and what they're about. I'd almost be tempted to ask MH to implement an editable summary dialog for public sites, so a blurb about what the site contains can be displayed in the wiki browser (perhaps this can be imlimented automatically into some other page or wikibrowser can be given some added functions and a facelift? Sorry, that's a wishlist item perhaps). | -- FrozenPlum  (Talk / Email) 02:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * TBH I already missed the possibility to find corresponding wikis by some easy method, so I'm highly welcoming the tags. I mostly stumbled upon wikis that I like, I didn't find them. Tags would be a great way to group them in more granular ways. As for the which tags question - I think that whatever list anyone will come up with, there is someone wanting a tag that totally makes sense and isn't in that list. So some way of adding tags would be necessary. But I fully agree with Dmehus' concerns on this. Soukupmi (talk) (✔) 11:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Basically, I think it's quite possible we don't need to change the way wikis are categorized, but rather we'd keep the existing single category system, but add an additional tagging field that allow wiki bureaucrats to tag their wikis. The challenge, of course, with tags, is that unless you have a controlled vocabulary system, you'll get some wikis using one synonym for their tags and other wikis using a different synonym for their wikis. Another problem, too, whether we use a controlled vocabulary system or not, is wikis tagging their wikis incorrectly, which also adds to the inconsistency and difficulty in colocating similar wikis in similar tag groups. Dmehus (talk) 02:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Scary transclusion for the English Wikipedia
Could you please enable scary transclusion for the English Wikipedia for https://forecasting.wiki? Thank you! Nikos (talk) 11:45, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, if you're talking about Interwiki, then the English Wikipedia can currently be transcluded by using the  or the   prefixes, these prefixes are set to transclude globally. But on the other hand, if you're talking about, , on looking at your wiki, it is already set, that means everything should be working fine as it ought to.
 * To find more information about how transclusions works, please see;
 * Take a look at the Interwiki legend on the Special:Interwiki page; and
 * The Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding page on MediaWiki.org
 * With all these you should be able to understand better how Interwiki transclusion; feel free to ask further questions that you have. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   12:09, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for your help! With your help managed to get it running. Nikos (talk) 15:43, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

What else can I do about appealing this block?
Hi. I don't know where exactly to put this, so sorry if this is in the wrong place. My "main" account is named ApexAgunomu, and it is currently blocked indefinitely on the Closing Logos Group wiki for posting gibberish. I still have talk page access there, so I posted a block appeal there around five days ago. However, I haven't gotten any reply to that request, so am wondering if there is any way I can alert the admins there to see my request. Any help would be much appreciated.

Also, I would use my main account to post this here, but I had asked for it to be blocked here, so I'm using my alt account to post this matter here. ApexTest (talk) 19:35, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * It is possible local administrators may have missed your request. With your main account, try sending the blocking administrator a message here on Miraheze Meta. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:46, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * My main account is blocked from this noticeboard and almost every other namespace (which I did ask for) and I can't ask to have that block removed because my talk page for my main account is protected. So I'm using this account. ApexTest (talk) 19:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * but maybe I can ask them on this account. How do I find out who the admins are? ApexTest (talk) 19:55, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

How do I enable the HotCat feature on my wiki?
Thanks for any help. ApexTest (talk) 02:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * To use the HotCat gadget, you need to import this hotcat js code into MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js in your own wiki. Then, following the guidelines stated in mw:Extension:Gadgets, add the HotCat.js code which you previously imported into MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition so that all users can use this tool in Special:Preferences.
 * P.S. Seems you are a sockpuppet of an ApexAgunomu, an infintely blocked account in meta. Note that this is considered as block evasion if you are really a sockpuppet of it. --Matttest (talk) 03:13, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, ApexAgunomu is my main account, but as the block on my main account is a self-requested block, and I needed help with the two issues I posted here, I didn't see anything wrong with using this account to post here. And thanks for your help. ApexTest (talk) 03:39, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems that is not the case. Dmehus clearly stated in your account’s blocking reason: “As such, though a self-requested block, any unblock request from the user should have the consent of at least one other Meta administratorand/or Steward other than the unblocking administrator” It means that you should place a unblock request and get 2 admins consent, including Dmehus, instead of using this account otherwise it may be considered as block evasion. Therefore, I am pinging Dmehus here to clarify this, thanks. Matttest (talk) 06:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not asking for the block to be lifted though. I just had two issues I wanted to bring up here, so decided to use this account here for that. I don't see that there's a problem with that. ApexTest (talk) 12:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Attribution nuances on a forked wiki
Hello! General advice question. I'm currently working on a wiki fork (currently still private), and I plan to stick a little attribution template at the bottom to the effect of "This article incorporates material from "XYZ" article at the Blah wiki on Fandom and is licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0" at the bottom of all imported articles. However, a number of articles (including some vital articles) were written entirely by myself or editors who are coming over with the fork (hereafter just "we editors") while we were on the other wiki, or the current version of the article as imported contains only content written by we editors with very little content retained from prior versions written by non-forking editors. So, my questions are:
 * Is this necessary on imported articles entirely written by we editors, i.e. we editors are the only people in the history?
 * Is this necessary on imported articles where the current version is entirely content produced by we editors, i.e. none of the current version is contributed by prior editors because it was written out? (Without getting into the weeds of "how do you determine this", assume a strict interpretation of "none")
 * If an imported article becomes rewritten to not use any content from the other wiki, can the attribution notice be removed? (Again, without getting into weeds)

Generally speaking, is this attribution strictly necessary anyway when the entire history was imported with all revisions and attributions? I would like to do it just to make sure everything is copacetic and for CYA reasons (there will potentially be bitter feelings about this fork even though it's all above board due to license), but I'm also wondering that as a secondary, general question. (If anyone answers, please ping me!) —CaptainOfTheTidesBreath (aye, captain!) 18:21, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * If the entire revision history was imported then you are set and you don’t need to put a notice saying that an article was imported from Fandom, etc. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:02, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the answer! I'll reconsider because it's a lot of labor to institute it. I'll hold on to the template in case there's bitter feelings about forking the wiki from the Fandom community side of things in case we need to smooth relations over, but that's reassuring. Thank you! —CaptainOfTheTidesBreath (aye, captain!) 23:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I too am an emigré from Fandom but I quibble with this response. (1) Importing the history discloses all the previous authors, but only as usernames, which don't necessarily match any username at Miraheze and don't completely identify them.  (2) Yes,  page-by-page edit would be labor-intensive.  Not labor-intensive to globally add a template to the bottom of every content page that says that edits before such-and-such a date are the work of the named authors at the Blah wiki.   18:41 22-May-2022

Metroid, Square Enix, and Pokemon
So at the top it says I can "Solicit volunteers' assistance to help maintain or write content for your wiki", so I'm assuming it's ok if I welcome others to edit some wikis that me and a few others have been working on (hopefully not breaking any rules)? Metroidpedia and Square Enix Wiki are two wikis started by me and Dark Matter Man about a month ago, so those are low on content. There's also Pokemon Wiki, stylized after the Super Mario Wiki, and it's recently surpassed 100 articles (someone else has been helping out on there). There's a couple of other wikis, but I figured I'd point these three out for starters. Bawitdaba (talk) 23:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Block Review Requested
Pinging as they are the admin involved in this case.

Hi. I would just like a second opinion on this block situation concerning my account ApexAgunomu (https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/ApexAgunomu) at Public Test Wiki. I do understand that I should not have tried to evade my block, but I feel that restarting my block was a little excessive. Let me explain the circumstances. On May 15, I made a side account named Tomete1404 in a moment of poor judgement because I really wanted to edit the Public Test Wiki again (I was originally blocked until May 29). However, after around 15 minutes, I reverted the edit I had made with the Tomete1404 account and asked to have it locked because I realized I should just wait my original block out.

In summary, I feel that the block reset was not warranted because I made two edits with that account and then promptly reported it to the stewards because I realized that I shojld not have made the extra account. If I had continued to edit with that account and someone else had figured it out, or if I had gone a considerable amount of time and made several edits before reporting it, then yes, I would agree with the main block being extended. Any second opinion on this matter is appreciated. ApexTest (talk) 14:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC)


 * You are amazingly lucky you don't have an indefinite block and more than enough patience has been given to you. You've repeatedly ignored warnings and broken rules. You clearly have zero regard for the policies of public test wiki. I don't give tolerance for evading blocks. If you use another account while blocked, the time your blocked gets reset. Every time with no exceptions. I'll speak to the other consuls though. Consuls/Stewards: Can I ask that no action is taken without informing me? ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: block appeal had the condition that it could only be shortened by one consul + one non-consul community member agreeing. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:25, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "I made a side account named Tomete1404" is an admission of ban evasion as well as violating your unlock agreement to not use multiple accounts. You've been given so many chances before to stop doing things like this and this proves that you haven't changed. There is therefore not much to review given you're evaded your block (and unlock conditions) and have done so in the past which makes you saying it was just a one time thing/poor judgment hard to believe. If you are unable to follow TestWiki's very few and simple rules, I would suggest doing tests on your own wiki(s) instead. You may try to appeal this later in time but for now I'm not inclined to accept. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 16:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I know I should not have made that account to begin with, but I had thought the fact that I only made two edits with it and self-reported it would be seen as an extenenuating circumstance. But I guess combined with my past history at the test wiki that doesn't hold true. I will show that I am capable of obeying the guidelines of the wiki when I come back, and not test anywhere I'm not supposed to. ApexTest (talk) 16:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The block only being reset and not changed to an indefinite one is taking that into account. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:47, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It was indeed poor judgment on your part, yes, but I thought this was resolved. You voluntarily self-reported your alternate account in  on IRC. The account was locked as a self-requested lock. I amended your locked alternate account's block by unblocking it as unnecessary given the timing of the account creation + your self-reporting it. You're making slow progress, but I am seeing capacity for learning, and was actually contemplating unblocking your main account on Public Test Wiki, as I don't feel the block serves any purpose; we have an abuse filter that Chrs significantly adapted, to help guide your behaviour. This can be amended as necessary. Dmehus (talk) 16:48, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * the rejected block appeal says it can not be removed unilaterally. I remind you of that. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:50, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That is not accurate. Dmehus (talk) 16:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I am very clear on what I wrote. It's fairly visible for all to see. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:55, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I looked at my talk page, it says "This block is NOT to be removed without consulting at least one other consul and one other non-consul sysop whoever you are and you should give time for anyone to respond." So I guess we would have to ask one of the people who regularly test there to agree to lift my block. But I do want to say that I will absolutely show that I can abide by all the rules thers. ApexTest (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed. If this was the first time we would've undoubtedly been more lenient but given your vast history on TestWiki we aren't inclined to give more chances at this point unless you really do demonstrate that you've changed your behavior. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 16:49, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Isn't using your ApexTest account here technically evading your idef Meta block? Sario528 (talk) 18:22, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, yes, though it's a self-requested block, but RhinosF1's revocation of their user talk page access without cause arguably offsets that. Anyway, further to my conversations with Reception123 on IRC, a compromise solution is being arranged, and this thread will be moved there there it's more in scope. Dmehus (talk) 18:30, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know about the possible solution, I hope something can be worked out. Just a note about the talk page access, though. RhinosF1 didn't revoke it when they extended the block. It had already been disabled shortly after my initial block had been placed, because I added some nonsense categories to it. Just wanted to note that. ApexTest (talk) 18:53, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarifying that. This, together with your asking for a block review, suggests significant improvement in your behavioural patterns and demonstrated capacity to have learned. You will need a firmer warning, together with a much stricter local abuse filter, though. Dmehus (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you everyone for your replies here. I do understand the reasoning for the block increase now, and though it's still not fun for me, I'll just serve the rest of my block (unless it's lifted early), and obey all the rules when I return and abide by any conditions imposed. ApexTest (talk) 22:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

I just have one last question regarding my situation at TestWiki. When my block ends, will I be able to regain admin and bureaucrat right away, or do I have to wait for one or both of those? Thanks. ApexTest (talk) 12:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I personally haven't placed any restrictions on that. As far as I'm concerned, that's a desicion for whoever reviews that request. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  14:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)