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Vote
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have a question for you: should we have a wiki on here like the Wiki Gazetteer on FANDOM? Put your vote in the headings below! And remember to sign your posts with ~. Tali64³ (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes

 * 1) Why not? This would not be a bad idea for someone looking for a specific wiki. --Furricane (talk) 21:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) per  InspecterAbdel (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I strongly support this because we can find more specific wikis.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 21:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) I'm not opposed to this idea, in theory, and I do think that we need to rethink Gazetteer of wikis given that we have ~3,800 current wikis (which is too large for a single page). My main concern, which I expressed in declining the wiki request, was that this may suffer from lack of maintenance and timely updates. As well, by siphoning it away from Meta, we now have yet another wiki we have to somehow promote, so that sort of defeats the purpose of a gazetteer of wikis designed to promote customers' public wikis, doesn't it? Secondarily, I honestly think a better way to go about this is to add additional functionality and data output to the automated list, Special:WikiDiscover. That said, it's a good-faith idea, in theory and if well-maintained, so that is why I am expressing some support, albeit weak. Dmehus (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) I think this will help in finding wikis. Admittedly, there was once a list on Wikia, but we've dropped it. Onmp314 (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There are still two: the Wiki Wiki and the Wiki Gazetteer. Tali64³ (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

No

 * 1)  I don't see the need for an entire wiki like this. We already have a page here on meta, Gazetteer of wikis. And in all honesty, a page on meta will most likely be given more notice than another external wiki that some will never visit. As such I am opposing this idea. While a good thought I don't see the need for it. I mean if you want it, go for you, but I don't think it should be a community wiki at all.  15:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * There are wikis currently on Miraheze, too big to list on one page. An administrator could put a link to it on the main page. Tali64³ (talk) 16:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * We also have Special:WikiDiscover which lists every wiki on Miraheze. 14:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  if there were a lot of people to add entries for wikis with short descriptions that would work for me but right now I think that the Meta gazeteer is enough and is helpful. DeeM28 (talk) 07:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) A wiki for this is unnecessary, Gazetteer of wikis on Meta works fine. If there was a way to automate it with Special:WikiDiscover, I might rethink it, but otherwise this would likely get really outdated long-term. K599 (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) and I would like to note, wiki creations are at the sole discretion of wiki creators and global policy, and I view this as a way to circumvent a decline of mine. Thus, I also recommend a closure of this as not done. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 05:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) There is gazetteer of wikis. (But that alone may not fit.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waki285 (talk • contribs) 23:23, 2 December 2020‎ (UTC)
 * 6) I kind of think it's a good idea, but there'd be too many problems. Waldo (talk) 02:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
I think it's a fair enough idea but there are many ways to approach it and would need lots of maintenance and would probably create some form of conflict -Bayugoon (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

 * 1) I'm currently been slowly working on a similar idea over the past month or two just documenting wikis: the Wikiverse. dibbydib 23:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) As a Miraheze wiki creator, when this wiki truly passes through us for approval (I have recently accidentally approved this wiki sent in by, which due to the ongoing discussion and the incorrect subdomain is currently pending steward review for deletion), it is important for us to know when to approve the wiki and who will be creating it. Therefore, who will be the founding Bureaucrat of the wiki if it passes community discussion?  14:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * I would be the founder. Tali64³ (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * When having community discussions like these, who will be the founder is among what should be discussed. I believe who should be the founder should be among what is discussed here. Thanks! 02:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1) Relisting for another couple of weeks. Dmehus (talk) 05:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Relisting for another several weeks. Dmehus (talk) 11:42, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) For those of you who oppose this on the grounds that it would get outdated, if this proposal passes, I'm planning to make a bot that works with Special:WikiDiscover to add entries. Tali64³ (talk) 16:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

A new wiki for the website's community
The Miraheze Community Wiki is a wiki for the community so people can get to know each other and welcome each other. I know Meta does that, but I think we need a wiki for that stuff.

Support

 * 1) I think we need a wiki for this kind of thing InspecterAbdel (talk) 22:44, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) but not per any of the above or below, but because community noticeboard has become a catch-all for technical support questions, community discussions, and really anything. The organization is weak, and we could use a community wiki. I have no objections to it, but the main reason for my oppose  weak support here is because the purpose is somewhat vague and unclear. I appreciate  bringing this for a community discussion, though, and, since this wiki was simultaneously submitted for approval and created already, I think we should probably shift this wiki towards defining a clear purpose and terms of reference for its existence and the parameters by which the local   can be removed (via Community noticeboard) here on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)  Amended. Moved from weak oppose to weak support Dmehus (talk) 15:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I think we should have one since fandom has one. Plus it's subdomain is valuable too. AppleCrunchy (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) I really like to have a community wiki for new users to gather, although we have a Community noticeboard.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 17:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) . No, we don't need such a wiki.  This page ("community noticeboard") is exactly for this kind of thing.  I don't want to have to check both this page and a dedicated wiki to find out what is happening on the wiki farm, nor learn how such a wiki is organized.   04:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Spike. There is already not enough engagement and usage on Meta, so another wiki is really not what we need. We should focus on Meta. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) . We DO NOT need a community wiki is needed at this time. We already have this page, the community noticeboard, and Requests for Permissions, requests for global rights and requests for stewardship. It seems that it would serve the same service as as most of this meta wiki, and I just see no possible usage for this. I also agree with the comments that has made about having to go back and forth between meta and a community wiki. Sorry, it is just not going to work. --Furricane (talk) 15:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping you'll consider amending your !vote, per my comments above, as I really don't think 's goal was for this wiki to replace Meta. The problem with this request is that (a) the wiki shouldn't have been created without a community discussion (not, technically, a requirement, as far as I'm aware, but good practice) and (b) it should've had a clearer purpose, scope, and defined parameters, as we are doing with Dev Wiki and have done with Template Wiki and Miraheze Commons in the past. No community proposals or discussions, or even drafts of such proposals, would've occurred on this wiki. Rather, as I saw it (though vague and unclear), this wiki was meant to be a user collaboration and social connection wiki that would've actually sought to deepen community participation. Participation in this community wiki would've been completely voluntary and not participating would not have meant the user would "miss out" on important community discussions, as I don't think that was ever the intent behind 's good-faith proposal. Dmehus (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  I do not think another wiki is necessary for the community because for me Meta is the wiki for the community. DeeM28 (talk) 07:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  This is unnecessary, Meta already serves essentially the same purpose, and there's not really enough of that kind of "community" activity to need a separate wiki. K599 (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  After reading the first two oppose votes I agree with those users.  We should try to engage the community on Meta and we can be doing community oriented activities here.  Тишина (talk) 17:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 5)  I agree that the noticeboard is enough and if there was a whole wiki about the community it would be under used and it would require moving around instead of just looking at this one page Bayugoon (talk) 19:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Comments

 * I think the subject is not whether we need a community wiki or not, as we already have a community-centric wiki, but whether we need a miraheze-sanctioned community wiki.I think CN is sufficient, but it seems unusual for a topic to be set up for communication purposes, so someone may need to give an example. I found an image on ja.wiktionary.org showing the stroke order of my name, so it might be a good idea to post it, but it takes courage to be the first one. --松•Matsu (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 02:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 01:36, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Steward attention requested: This really should be closed. I already posted an updated proposal, and it was closed as a "duplicate" of this discussion. Justarandomliberal (talk) 16:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

A community Developers wiki
I have a proposition for the Miraheze community. For a while now I have been debating whether or not to create a developers wiki for Miraheze. Unlike the template wiki, this wiki will include CSS and JS scripts that anyone can import using, it will allow anyone who wants it to use scripts built by the community in their own wikis and/or in their own personal global or local JavaScript or CSS files. After consulting with on Discord, I decided to get the communities feedback and/or support on this idea, therefore what does the Miraheze community think of this idea? 22:53, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Yeah, though I don't think it's required to have a community discussion in this case, since it's going to be a community wiki for shared CSS and JavaScript files, among other things potentially, I thought it would be a good practice to have the discussion, especially if it proposes to use the name "Miraheze." Plus, I think it would be helpful for the community to (a) define the initial scope and purpose and (b) establish the founding bureaucrats for the wiki. From there, the local community can help to establish its local policies and further refine its purpose. In general terms, I support this as a community wiki as I think it is sufficiently different than the Template and Miraheze Bots + Tools wikis. I also think it could be useful at reducing the page load times of community-imported and -maintained user scripts, as opposed to always loading them from English Wikipedia and other wikis. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, some of that is part of my initial thoughts for the reasoning of the wiki. As for using the name Miraheze in it, I think it should be called Miraheze Developers Wiki or something similar. As for bureaucrats of the wiki, any candidate recommendations? And I think a community discussion for this is a good idea. It gives the community a way to give input, and their own unique ideas in it as well. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * As proposer I support this, but also because I know JS and CSS pretty well, and would love to have a wiki like this for the Miraheze community. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * This is a great idea for a new wiki. I think that by doing this, lots of new coding things could be enabled, including possibly global modules and gadgets. Great suggestion. I also have no concerns for this proposal. --Furricane (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, I do believe that a wiki like this could be greatly beneficial in the long run, or at least I hope it can be. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * I support this idea because not everyone can do custom CSS and (or) custom JS. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea for having a central place to import JS and CSS. K599 (talk) 20:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * per my comments above. Dmehus (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Good. Waldo (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * would be a nice place to ask questions with in that area Bayugoon (talk) 19:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Potential rename and/or expanded scope of Dev Wiki
asked me a few days, or perhaps a week, ago if I had posted in this discussion thread about the potential renaming and expanded scope for Dev Wiki yet. Other tasks took priority, but seeing as this thread was due to be archived in the next day or so, I wanted to get this done. So, I'm going to ping those that participated above and those who participated in the discussion on potential name ideas/expanded scope on Discord.

So, the question is...given that the  subdomain implies broader usage by and for developers beyond just CSS and JavaScript scripts,  and I (did I forget anyone, ?) basically toyed around with a number of potential new names and subdomains, the top three of which is identified below:


 * 1) Retain   and expand the scope, or allow the community, via a future community noticeboard discussion to expand the scope at some point in the future;
 * 2) Rename subdomain to , which would be roughly in line with the current purpose and scope, but open to possibilities later (again, the community would retain the right modify the scope via a community noticeboard discussion); or,
 * 3) Rename subdomain to , with a narrow scope; limits us in the future, but entirely accurate; it's not too bad, as we could easily create a separate dev later, though we should reserve that subdomain in the blacklist)

Since didn't participate in the Discord discussion and since this doesn't require any advanced rights to close, I nominate him to assess the consensus and close this discussion in a week or two. --Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of RhinosF1 as closer
, please indicate if you would be willing to close this discussion after 1-2 weeks (depending on the weather-related impacts to U.S. eastern seaboard residents).

Additionally, can I get a seconder to second this nomination? (Thought we could probably safely skip a full vote on nominating an uninvolved closer.)


 * Accepted:  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominated closer)
 * Moved: Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominator)
 * Seconded: 02:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 13:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks, plus the duration set by the hidden wikicomment at the end of this thread. Dmehus (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Voting and Vote Tabulation Instructions
You are encouraged to express first and second choices in your !vote. Please do so by indicating, in your !vote for each proposal, whether it is your first or second choice. If no proposal achieves more than 50% of the valid !votes cast, the proposal with the least number of first choice !votes will be dropped, and those users' second choices will then be allocated accordingly, and the results retabulated in a second count.

Support

 * 1)   02:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 2)  as first choice, since the community remains overall authority over this wiki in terms of its   removal (as may be required) and in terms of redefining, or broadening, its scope. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  I think there is no need to rename. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  Looks nice, and is easy to understand. K599 (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I like this idea as well, but it feels like it has other non-computer science-related use cases (i.e., for an archival- or museum-type wiki). Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I also liked 's idea, as it is the most specific and clearly defines this wiki's current purpose, but, at the same time, it really does restrict a future broadening of this wiki's scope to include a broader array of wiki developer resources, for which the community retains the absolute authority to redefine this wiki's purpose via community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

I want to check which feature can I add from this template to tuscriaturas.miraheze.org
I wrote a Phabricator ticket about a Wikipedia template I found, #T6768

The template provides some features for Wikipedia, but is customized. If we change the calls to Wikipedia for calls to Miraheze, maybe we could adapt some of that features to Miraheze? Some are already available. Category tree, Special:AllPages, and Random page are already possible in Miraheze, but category intersection and graphic I think need more work. What do you think? Is it possible to adapt some of these features to Miraheze? Avengium (talk) 19:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * and, do you think putting features like category intersection or graphic is doable or should I forget about it? Avengium (talk) 11:12, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you please share a specific example? Wikipedia can be using templates, interface messages, extensions etc. all of which can be used on Miraheze unless they rely on any (yet-to-be-released) MediaWiki version 1.36 feature. 12:44, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Avengium I don't know what you mean by "category intersection and graphic," so can't really comment at this point on whether it's perhaps requesting either a local Miraheze configuration change or an upstream feature request, as applicable. Can you clarify this just a bit? Dmehus (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ,, the names are names of features used and written on the template at https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Category-article-count. and MediaWiki:Category-subcat-count.
 * Category intersection is what this wiki is using: https://petscan.wmflabs.org/ one of the fields of that form is a "radio button" that says "Intersection" or "Union". That web is accesed automatically with the link on the template named "Intersección". That link is autocompleted to: https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=catscan2/quick_intersection.php&language=es&project=wikipedia&categories=CATEGORYNAME&depth=3&format=html&interface_language=es&norun That gives a feature.
 * Graphic is another feature, this time by: https://iw.toolforge.org/vcat/catgraphRedirect?wiki=eswiki&title=Category:CATEGORYNAME&links=graph. Graphic is a slow page so i think it spends more or make more actions. The graph is like an internet diagram, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_diagrams.
 * In the Miraheze task https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T6768 i tried to explain myself about the features on the template i saw at: MediaWiki:Category-article-count. Avengium (talk) 18:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have not checked PetScan's code but it seems to be using the MediaWiki API. This is possible with JavaScript on wiki pages if you do not want to make an external website (which I would not recommend unless you are familiar with how APIs work). There are examples on MediaWiki.org that you can follow. If they do not help or you think I am misunderstanding your question, could you please post a more specific question? Thank you. 08:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you do end up deciding you want an external website like PetScan, you could do something like this. 09:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * hi, I think Petscan does a "category intersection", but I don't know how the original website works. Avengium (talk) 10:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

A problem with blogs
Every time a user makes a blog on the wikis I manage, they get an error message stating a blog with the same name already exists (when really one doesn't) rather than letting them know that the blog was created successfully like when making normal pages. Is there any way I can fix this? --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 21:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hey! I noticed this in your question and I will try to help. Is this a MediaWiki extension? If so, what? --Anton (talk) 12:26, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * The extension the wikis use for blogs is called "BlogPage". --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 00:18, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * DeciduousWater534 Can you link to a blog post on one of your wikis where this problem/error occurs? This should help diagnose this a bit. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Here’s a link to a recent blog post on Crappy Games Wiki. —DeciduousWater534 (talk) 23:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Redirect failure in Risapedia
Risapedia has suffered a failure in the redirects that change the title of the links. For example: If Link 1 were a redirect to Link 2, the title of Link 1 would be "Link 1" and clicking on it sends you to Link 2. But the failure makes Link 1 have the title of "Link 2", as if  had been entered, but only   was entered. Hope someone helps me, because I still can't locate the bug. --Anthony8IA (talk) 22:36, 31 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Anthony8IA I assume you're talking about wiki redirects. Looking at Special:DoubleRedirects and Special:BrokenRedirects on your wiki, I see that you have only three of the former and none of the latter. So, that's great news. If you link to redirects, rather than the actual name of the pages, on your wiki's pages, and you have optional displayed (piped) text, then yes, you will need to also update the piped text when you update the link. This is not a bug, though; rather, it is intended and by design. You can save a bit of typing by using a pipe trick to automatically insert optional displayed (piped) text into the wikilink. Note that pipe tricks only work on wiki pages; not in edit and log summaries. Hope that helps. If I've misunderstood you, please clarify. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 23:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus Thank you for answering my message. And no, that's not what I meant. What I meant to say is that redirects change the link title. If you browse the wiki pages a bit, you will notice some strange links. Taking what I said earlier, redirects cause links to act as if  has been placed, when it is actually  . This problem damages shortcuts and hinders the writing of articles. To put it more clearly, if "PS5" were a redirect to "PlayStation 5", when placing in an article , instead of simply showing "PS5", it shows "PlayStation 5". I hope I have explained myself better. Anthony8IA (talk) 00:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Anthony8IA I'm not aware of this being a bug, but I'm still not quite clear on what the problem it is you're trying to report. Can you link to a specific page on Risapedia, and point out a specific redirect where the problem occurs, please? Dmehus (talk) 00:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus On the main page, in the section "¿Sabias Qué..." In the part where "República de Hisqáida" appears it should only say "Hisqáida" . Anthony8IA (talk) 00:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Anthony8IA . I do see this bug, and indeed, the displayed text of the first linked page is to the actual name of the page, not the linked redirect. I'm unsure if this is a Miraheze-specific configuration issue or an upstream MediaWiki core or extension bug. Given that this bug doesn't apparently occur on the Wikimedia wikis, I'm inclined to believe it is the former. So, could you please create a Phabricator task, clearly defining the problem, linking to the above example page(s)/redirect(s), and highlighting any step(s) to reproduce the issue? Assign the,  , and   projects, and triage the task as normal priority. When you're finished, returned to this thread, and link to the Phabricator ticket number. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 01:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ready Phabricator # T6803 Anthony8IA (talk) 01:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC) Amended to convert external link to an interwiki link and add clarity by Dmehus (talk) on 01:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Anthony8IA ✅. We can follow that task there now. Dmehus (talk) 02:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Custom/fictional language script
I'm currently working on a fictional nation and a conlang with it. I would like to use a custom script (conscript) on my wiki, like in line with normal text. Is there any way to do this currently? Any help would be appreciated. Dread (talk) 13:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


 * You could do this by creating a font file, hosting it on an external server, and then applying it to the text using CSS. You could also use images if that works for you. Which script do you want to use? ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 14:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Upload migration
Good thing that you are migrating to new hardware: happy to hear.

But how we ended up disabling upload that I am not really happy with.

Three questions:


 * 1) Why did Miraheze have to perform this this suddenly, unannounced?
 * 2) Devil's advocate: Universal Omega claimed "emergency" @ Discord (ref) but what kind of emergency?
 * 3) When will it finish? Tonight? Tomorrow? Next Week? Next decade? "as soon as possible" can be next century. You probably need to be more explicit about the ETA.

Communication is even more critical in emergency. If everyone doesn't have full insight on what is going on, it causes frustration for all parties involved.

Users don't know wtf is going on, so they ask the question, and sysadmins are unhappy because they keep getting same questions, and not really everybody reads the previous discussions. &mdash; revi  02:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * –revi I agree it could've been better announced. As far as our deadline goes, our existing server commitment is up on 3 February 2021, thus the urgency. However, Southparkfan is looking into whether we can possibly renew the existing cloud server on a no commitment basis for another month, if we need it. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 02:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I have been blocked
I have been blocked on the wiki Schule der drei Meister. This wiki is private, I can't even read it (except the main page) and have not made a single edit, obviously. So why on earth did they block me? Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 07:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * People sometimes do it to accounts they don't recognise. I wouldn't worry. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily Thank you for this request. While it doesn't require attention of global functionaries, largely this is the result of new wiki bureaucrats not being familiar with the fact that users cannot view private wikis unless added to the  group and also not realizing accounts are auto-added by CentralAuth. We could do well to better explain this in FAQ. Nevertheless, I'll try and reach out to the local wiki bureaucrat(s)' via their Meta user talk page and educate them on how private wikis work and that blocking users from private wikis, particularly when the public Main Page is   protected is rather useless. Dmehus (talk) 14:02, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your answers. Afaik blocking does not even prevent a user from reading a wiki, am I right? Is there even a possibility in the MediaWiki software to block a specific user from reading? And even if so, they could just logout, LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 05:26, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you're wiki was not part of a farm, you could make reading require an account and then use $wgBlockDisablesLogin to make it so blocking made the account unusable. For us, the account would have to be locked and the wiki marked as private but 'read' given to users. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  07:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Risapedia templates bug
Hi. The Risapedia has suffered another failure. This time it is in the templates. I thought that the wiki is Spanish language, the namespace "Plantilla:" changed to "Template:", which affects the wiki. Greetings. Anthony8IA (talk) 21:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)


 * This may be related to #T6826. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Please join IRC/Discord and let us know or leave a comment on the task if it's still affecting your wiki. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  08:23, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

How to solve Template loop detected
Lukeseaver (talk) 06:30, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Remove the template that causes it to try and display itself. If you link to the page then we can advise. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  08:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It'll always happen if you call a template into the same template. Make use of and to solve this issue. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 12:22, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Requests for help regarding マイン乾布's massive vandalism on chakuwiki
Hi,

chakuwiki was vandalized by マイン乾布 last night, and I'm here to request for help on several ways. Thanks in advance, Bakaba (talk) 22:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) The vandal has moved over 100 pages in a complicated way, and as it's hard to restore all by ourselves, we would like to request CVT members to help us recover the wiki.
 * 2) There have been several cases of spoofed admin accounts on chakuwiki, taking advantage of difficulty for confirming their identity because of recent migration and closure of the original wiki. Thus I'd like to request for globally locking such spoofing and vandalism-only accounts. They are:
 * 3) *マイン乾布
 * 4) *アイレヴォ
 * 5) *Amberangel


 * Bakaba Yeah, this should've been requested at stewards' noticeboard, but I can move this thread there afterward. In the mean time, looking at Special:Nuke for マイン乾布 on the given wiki, it looks like the page and redirect creations have been deleted already, unless the  needs to be manually removed/blanked first? Can you clarify a bit what, exactly, you would like done in terms of the vandalism remediation? In terms of the global locks, I can indeed handle that right now. Dmehus (talk) 22:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for locking.
 * As for the recovery, please check out their move log. This time, they have acted as a mass-and-random mover.--Bakaba (talk) 23:32, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As a further note, I'd like to point out that アイレヴォ and Amberangel have acted as a seemingly good-faith account, and reverting their edits might be improper, unlike マイン乾布's obvious vandalism. Bakaba (talk) 23:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Bakaba Ah, okay. I'm a bit confused, though, with regard to edits by アイレヴォ and Amberangel. If they're being locked as vandalism only accounts, for which we obviously have to rely on your judgment due to your speaking Japanese fluently, why are they reverting vandalism by マイン乾布? I'll take a look at the move logs for マイン乾布, though. Dmehus (talk) 23:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think they are reverting マイン乾布's edit, because they had been blocked locally before マイン乾布 vandalized the wiki. Those who are reverting now should be admins whose identities are confirmed. Bakaba (talk) 02:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I tried to revert a couple things that Amberangel left behind, but I noticed you reverted my edit on one of them, realizing I may have done an overkill at that point. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I see that Dmehus has dealt with some parts of this request already. We would like to help out with the rest of your request, but we have some reservations as it is quite tricky to understand with the machine translation in order to see what is vandalism and what isn't, and we wouldn't want to revert something that isn't actually vandalism and create more work for you. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:58, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you guys think should happen to the rest of those LTAs targeting the  still going after the Japanese admins of that said wiki, if it helps with the investigation? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

How to patrol recent changes effectively
In Special:RecentChanges, unpatrolled edits will have a “ ! ” mark (if you have the permission to patrol). But patrolling recent changes seems inconvenient and time-consuming.

For example, if there is an array of edits from one person on one page, these edits will be collapsed in RecentChanges. I can look at the changes made by these couple of edits in one page, but it seems I cannot patrol these edits directly — I have to patrol these edits respectively, which takes much time.

Besides, for Flow discussions, it seems I have to patrol the comments in respective pages, which is quite inconvenient.

I'm not familiar with patrolling. Is there any method to improve the efficiency of patrolling? Thanks. SolidBlock (talk) 13:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * SolidBlock, thank for the question, which is a good one for which I think there is no one right answer. I'll attempt to answer it with my patrolling strategies. Firstly, I usually use mainly the Special:NewPages page for patrolling, though this will only patrol new page creations across namespaces within a given timeframe (last 180 days, as far as I am aware), as I find Special:RecentChanges cumbersome from a workflow perspective for similar reasons to the ones you cited. That won't catch all recent changes, of course. So, when I do do RC patrolling, I'll usually either expand the arrow (where there are multiple changes by the same user(s)), and right-click and open the diff in a new tab, closing it once patrolled, or I'll actually open the link to the revision(s) in a new tab, then patrol all related revisions via the page history, beginning from the beginning. There are also some user scripts, which can also be gadgets if you prefer, related to patrolling, which you may find useful. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Concern
Is there any protection on Miraheze against hacking or similar behavior?

I am a little worried about someone, whom may or may not attempt to illegally get into my account. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 21:25, 12 February 2021 (UTC)


 * MarioSuperStar77 I mean, it's users responsibilities to ensure their account(s) are secure. You should ensure you have a very strong password, at minimum, and a confirmed e-mail address associated to your account. You should also consider setting your preferences or global preferences to include notifications, via e-mail and on-wiki, of logins from unfamiliar devices. Finally, you may wish to consider enabling two-factor authentication; however, do not lose your scratch codes and ensure your e-mail address is kept up to date. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:29, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

I would like to add a bureaucrat in my wiki.
How can I add other bureaucrats ? I want to add my friend to manage this wiki. ItsKandar (talk) 14:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC)