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Contributing
Do I just wait for contributions? I have like 2 people but no new editing? Thanks. Sperosdurell (talk) 22:37, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Sperosdurell As I explained to you and (Iron Sword 23 also) previously, English Wikipedia fork wikis generally do not well because, well, they're a dime a dozen (that is to say, very plentiful). Plus, users can simply edit the more trafficked English Wikipedia, or they can request their own wiki. If you want to edit a wiki, you have to be prepared to edit your wiki as a solitary activity (that is to say, by yourself). Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:32, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
 * For posterity, there are two key ways you can develop contributions. One is advertising to the right people. Ie, both of my premises have audiences I can pitch to when I have the need for outside support in content. These are not Miraheze users and only a small fraction from each would ever edit, but a few is naturally better than 0. If you're serious about a project, have a few places like this on your shortlist that can be approached. Secondly, structure. Having a good volume of stuff to start with, even as a shell so people can drop in and work. This can include categories, a measured list of stub pages to 'give the idea' of a plan, an actual written out plan of action, and/or a subcommunity nexus (such as a Discord server) to informally build some comradery. I'm probably going to make a little essay on the subject since there's quite a lot more... then try to follow it myself with mixed success. --Raidarr (talk) 11:02, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Grand Theft Auto
Is there one? If not I can't request right now so requesting it for someone to create. Thanks. Sperosdurell (talk) 15:01, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Grand theft Auto wiki Sperosdurell (talk) 15:02, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * From the looks of it, there is not, however, why can't you currently request one? Agent Isai (talk) 15:17, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I already have requested tons... Sorry. Sperosdurell (talk) 15:21, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Really, there's no limit per se of wikis you can request, however, wiki creators will attempt to assess whether you can maintain all your wikis or not. Even if someone else creates it for you, you should determine whether you can maintain all your wikis. If you can, then I see no reason why you can't request another. Agent Isai (talk) 15:51, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Well Doug might say different, I been blocked before under another username. Apologies. Sperosdurell (talk) 15:56, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I have various wikis on Miraheze, some of them have even been approved by Doug himself. I think what really matters to the wiki creators is whether or not you can maintain the wiki. However, if you've previously been blocked under a different username, I suggest you appeal the block and try to get unbanned as making an additional account is considered ban evasion and could lead to a more severe ban. Agent Isai (talk) 16:54, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I told Doug who I was. Sperosdurell (talk) 16:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Agent Isai Yeah, I suspected Sperosdurell was Hrvcfr based on the overwhelming behavioural evidence, and they confirmed recently that they were indeed the same user. Fortunately, Hrvcfr's editing restriction on Meta Wiki had lapsed as they were improving. Sperosdurell has requested a number of recent wikis, including an adoption request, so while I'm still satisfied of their improvement, I would just remind them that it doesn't make sense to try and run and build, say, a dozen or more wikis with few edits on each as they will invariably wind up going dormant according to Dormancy Policy and to being eventually deleted. Dmehus (talk) 16:32, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for not editing enough. Sperosdurell (talk) 11:25, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
 * If I may attempt constructive criticism, I think the problem is less 'not editing enough' so much as creating, lightly advertising, but not committing to a large handful of broadly-scoped wikis that already have editing audiences and scale outside Miraheze. Especially if you're going into already taken territory, it's prudent to come in with a plan. Anyone can be an editor, but a creator/bureaucrat (anyone can be that too of course) implies a level of vision for a wiki's growth beyond making a shell, a page or two and the rest just being dormant. A single editor cannot fully build a ton of wikis on their own, and at the very least looking at structure building would help give people a place to start if they happen upon the wiki but only see 1-2 pages made without more apparent thought into its growth. So perhaps focus on the ones you have, get someone on your team to help develop and design them, and ensure the wikis not just exist, but have a future. --Raidarr (talk) 12:34, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Raidarr. ^ to be honest. Sperosdurell, perhaps you may also want to review the similar advice I gave you at the user talk page of your former account. Dmehus (talk) 14:40, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Outlook.com email delivery
Hi all,

MediaWiki Engineering are aware of issues with the delivery of emails to outlook.com - If you are affected, please be patient. We will work on a solution soon to allow affected users to confirm manually or change their emails if we do not get anywhere with Outlook support or log searching.

In the meantime, please avoid creating accounts with outlook/hotmail/other Microsoft/office related service as we can not guarantee it will work.

Thanks ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  14:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)


 * So this isn't really a new issue, but as far as I'm aware, has been resolved. Are you saying the issue has reoccurred, and that is the issue now? If so, what's the cause? As far as I know, Microsoft had whitelisted our domain on the given OVH IPs identified in spam blacklists. Dmehus (talk) 16:51, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's reoccurred. We're not showing as blocked and according to outlook so far they have no idea but I can send email fine if I reply to an existing thread just not new emails to outlook. Seems a very strange issue but so far very little indication on why. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  16:56, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the update. Is there a new Phabricator ticket opened, or have we reopened an existing ticket, that we can link here? Dmehus (talk) 17:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * T7573 ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  17:50, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * These issues are supposed to resolve within the next ~48 hours. I am still seeing them at the moment and I can't really see any useful stats from outlook in their portal. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:47, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Donkey Hodie wiki

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Out of scope. Dmehus (talk) 22:17, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Anyone willing to help me on this? PBS kids show. If interested leave a message. Thanks. Sperosdurell (talk) 15:22, 4 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Fandom won't even let me create it. So??? Sperosdurell (talk) 16:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, now I'm completely confused as this is Miraheze. I'd suggest posting this question here. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:16, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Forget it, I'm sorry I'm mad at Fandom. Apologies. Sperosdurell (talk) 16:45, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, no problem. Dmehus (talk) 22:17, 4 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

If possible, can I get a Miraheze site tracked by WikiApiary?
Looking into it in the next 1-2 months (as things start settling down on the relaunched version of my now-week-old creative-venture wiki). Not to mention that my site, I believe, is the only Miraheze outlet at this writing to actually take advantage of the Genealogy and Mermaid extensions (for its character profiles and family trees). Beyond that, the only Miraheze references to both are at T5005 (from late December 2019) and T5204 (from a couple of months after)--whose requesting wikis are no longer around. --Routhwick (talk) 13:35, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * To add your website to WikiApiary, you need to create an account on there. After confirming your email, all you need to do is go to Special:FormEdit/Website on there and add your wiki. Agent Isai (talk) 15:57, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Were you able to resolve this? Ugochimobi (talk) 08:11, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Cannot have recaptcha when creating account
When creating an account, no recaptcha is loaded. I had thought it was because it tries to connect google.com, but actually it connects to recaptcha.net directly.

I have tried out in Firefox (Windows) and the recaptcha is correctly loaded, while when using Edge (Windows), Firefox Android, or other browsers in Android, no recaptcha is loaded.

I have inspected the console and found that the error is: Refused to load the script 'https://www.gstatic.cn/recaptcha/releases/TbD3vPFlUWKZD-9L4ZxB0HJI/recaptcha__zh_cn.js' because it violates the following Content Security Policy directive: "default-src 'self' blob: data: *.miraheze.org *.wikimedia.org *.wikipedia.org *.wikibooks.org *.wiktionary.org *.wikiquote.org *.wikisource.org *.wikiversity.org *.wikinews.org *.wikivoyage.org *.mediawiki.org mediawiki.org *.wikidata.org wikidata.org *.wmflabs.org *.google.com *.gstatic.com *.addthis.com *.youtube.com *.youtube-nocookie.com maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com twitter.com *.creativecommons.org images.uncyc.org www.mikrodev.com *.reviservices.com *.twitter.com www.sciencedaily.com *.googleapis.com *.twimg.com discordapp.com *.openstreetmap.org *.libera.chat *.sorcery.net *.fontawesome.com *.a.wmflabs.org nenawiki.org *.cloudytheology.com i.imgur.com na.llnet.sims3store.cdn.ea.com cdn.discordapp.com m.media-amazon.com image.tmdb.org *.stripe.com *.twitch.tv *.fastly.net *.facebook.com *.shields.io *.bilibili.com *.163.com discord.com googleusercontent.com imgbox.com cdnjs.cloudflare.com cdn.jsdelivr.net reddit.com *.reddit.com redd.it *.redd.it redditmedia.com *.redditmedia.com dropbox.com *.dropbox.com dropboxstatic.com *.dropboxstatic.com *.nicovideo.jp lh3.googleusercontent.com db.onlinewebfonts.com wikiapiary.com *.vimeo.com *.googleusercontent.com *.imgbox.com www.gnu.org www.desmos.com www.recaptcha.net snap.berkeley.edu *.netease.com openlayers.org wikiplus-app.com minotar.net *.tile.openstreetmap.org live.staticflickr.com *.pixabay.com cdn.geogebra.org docs.blender.org scratchblocks.github.io 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval'". Note that 'script-src-elem' was not explicitly set, so 'default-src' is used as a fallback. (anonymous) @ api.js?hl=zh-cn:formatted:28 (anonymous) @ api.js?hl=zh-cn:formatted:30

In https://www.recaptcha.net/recaptcha/api.js, there is

According to my assumption, it's because "gstatic.cn", instead of "gstatic.com", was used, which is not in the CSP. I think that is a problem for users in China mainland. SolidBlock (talk) 13:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Nice catch! Maybe a sysadmin can add it to the CSP. —Bu kk it 16:12, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe there is something more to it than that, based on my conversations with Reception123. Also, adding  is potentially quite problematic, given how much content Google hosts across its data centres (not all of it well intentioned). For the time being, ReCaptcha v. 3.0 has been delayed for deployment until the issues can be resolved. Dmehus (talk) 17:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Still not fixed at present. --SolidBlock (talk) 00:09, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, again but... (I hope may this time be right)
Do you like Self-reference or It is basically x something = totally a bad idea? For instance: It is permitted under Creative Commons rights to develop and use/write materials concerning this particular Wiki, for Instance here like Mira... what was It? Miraheze(?), in some humorist context, when for "some" I for instance intend Self-reference, again? Thanks in advance because later is called "You are welcome!", yours.--Executive2 (talk) 17:59, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * If you just mean how the satire-like page you linked is written, I'm sure that would be fine. If it's in the spirit of the Content policy, Miraheze shouldn't mind if you poke fun or lend constructive criticism. --Raidarr (talk) 10:36, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, have a good Day/Night! (depending on your UTC) ;)--Executive2 (talk) 11:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Request to visit this wiki - 07/07/2021
Anyone to visit this wiki https://onibus.miraheze.org/ 'Bus Wiki', just go there or edit something there. We look forward to seeing you there! YellowFrogger (talk) 22:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This wiki is in Portuegese --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 06:55, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Help with spam
Hey, having issues with spam accounts being created who make a cookie-cutter user page and random article outside of the scope of the wiki on anglish wiki. Was wondering if a miraheze administrator could do something to block them and delete all of the articles. Thanks. TimeMaster (talk) 23:10, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the Anglish Wiki seems to be experiencing extensive spambot attacks, Stewards and Global Sysops have been alerted and will assist shortly. Thank you for reporting it. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:12, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * In the meantime, while Stewards arrive and help, you should manually delete the articles and temporarily remove the "createpage" and "edit" permission from Users on mh:anglish:Special:ManageWiki/permissions/User. Additionally, you may be able to thwart users from being created locally by removing the "createaccount" permission from the * group at mh:anglish:Special:ManageWiki/permissions/*. Removing these permissions will not affect sysops or bureaucrats. Hope this helps! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 04:47, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * TimeMaster ✅ on . I briefly checked all pages in your userspace and mainspace and believe everything that was spam has been removed. In addition to, or as an alternative to what Agent Isai mentioned, you might also prefer simply to remove the   user right from the   user group on your wiki, particularly if most of your user creation log are spam only accounts. As a further alternative to either, you could also enable the Moderation extension and liberally grant the   user group to human editors who are clearly not there to spam or attempt to spam. Hope that helps. :) Dmehus (talk) 21:23, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Need help with removing white rectangle
Hi,

Could you please help us remove this white rectangle using CSS or some other way (https://worldsanskrit.net)? It seems to be sticking out and i've tried many different things, but not able to remove it.

Thanks!

https://postimg.cc/rRMZZvxh Haritosh (talk) 17:38, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , hello there. I don't quite see the rectangle you mean. Has it been resolved? If not, please note the browser you use and I can check later more closely. --Raidarr (talk) 20:22, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I still see it in the top left corner, just right of the space where the logo is. Seeing it on Firefox, Edge, Chrome as well as other browsers that use the Chromium engine. I have marked it over here => https://postimg.cc/rRMZZvxh
 * Haritosh (talk) 21:45, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Found the issue. I raised it in the Miraheze discord, and the following code was suggested in response by a volunteer for CSS/JS. I'll use pastebin to give it - paste. I was informed that the 'background' code for #mw-panel should be removed as well. -- Raidarr (talk) 20:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Potential upload failure
I am aware that it can take some time until the cache reloads the images. Yet I feel like something went wrong when I uploaded a new version of my wiki logo. The old logo appears stretched because the new one has other dimensions. While the new logo appears in the version history when I click on it it still shows the old logo. I am unsure if this has to do with the fact that I went over the usual 135x135 rule for logos. If needed I can provide a screenshot. Smashidachi (talk) 17:26, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, this is usually caused because of an outdated local cache. Try clearing your cache and trying again. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 17:33, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Clearing the cache doesn't seem to fix it. I also used a browser without any cache history and there it didn't work either. Smashidachi (talk) 17:38, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Happens to me, you should just change the file name to something else —Bu kk it 19:48, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sometimes, it's also the servers cache. Try visiting again in an hour or two. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 19:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I assume it is both. Because yeah changing the file name (or simply uploading the new logo as new file) worked. I assume something in the server cache got stucked or something. Smashidachi (talk) 20:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

What is this source editor?
I got some problem while trying to edit the Brawl Pass page for my brawlstarsvi wiki. I could still see and edit as usual, but not the source editor. Pisces (talk) 05:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I am able to access your source editor after a quick check, both directly and after switching to it from VE. I would suggest forcing reload and trying again, restarting your browser, and clearing your browser cache in that order to ensure your side is working normally. It may have been the wiki and/or your end getting confused temporarily. --Raidarr (talk) 12:51, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Nope, it doesn't work. Actually, the editor make all the text and code blanked out. I could still change the content of the page, but not in the source editor.
 * I guess I would make a ticket in Phabricator. Pisces (talk) 13:29, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I totally understand what you're facing and trust me, I've personally experienced it too. This could happen sometimes when you have an internet connection that is not too strong, because switching between both editors when already editing, sometimes, needs a good internet connection.
 * So you could try what said above or better-still, get a strong connection and try.
 * When that didn't work then you can create a phab ticket.
 * Hope that helps. Ugochimobi (talk) 13:34, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Nope, I got full-speed Wifi connection on my house so the problem with the internet speed was impossible.
 * So I would go with T7631 as my final solution. Thanks for your help,, but it's time to find for sysadmin's help. Pisces (talk) 14:23, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Your switching between VisualEditor and SourceEditor works absolutely well over here. I'm sure you should check your connection if the problem still persists. Ugochimobi (talk) 14:56, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Once again, my connections was still good. I got my latest speed test from Ookla.
 * PiscesMGR-diss-006.png Pisces (talk) 15:31, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course that I need to hide few things for my privacy. Pisces (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Then it would seem this is not a speed related issue, but it is likely still a local one. The next step is attempting another browser and seeing what that one does, ideally as different as possible (ie, firefox instead of chrome) to see if the behavior repeats. Local settings may have a factor to play, as well as plugins such as blockers. I'm afraid there is nothing a sysadmin can really do on their end since this appears to be an entirely local issue. -- Raidarr (talk) 20:35, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * In the meanwhile, while your issue is fixed: You can press the pen icon by the publish button to switch to the source editor or insert  at the end of the URL of any page you're trying to edit.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:34, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

My Logo is Zoomed In
Hey, so I just uploaded my new logo and switched out the default logo for the new one. The logo shows up fine on my bookmark list and in any tabs, but the corner logo on the actual wiki page is zoomed in. I figured that the problem might be because the image was too large, but even replacing the file with a significantly smaller version didn't change anything. Here's the wiki: https://charactercompendium.miraheze.org/wiki/Character_Compendium, and here's the file: https://charactercompendium.miraheze.org/wiki/File:CCLogo.png BenTable (talk) 03:31, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I was also facing this problem on my wiki (kawipedia) but later I requested the wiki to be deleted! ~ Mazzaz (talk) 05:06, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I hope you have fix your issues as When I visited, there was no such mentioned issue again and your wiki is also private. If you have further questions you could join us on Discord here. Thanks. Ugochimobi (talk) 20:20, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I honestly didn't know how to respond when I saw this earlier, and looking now it appears to have been fixed since I did see the problem then. since this seems to have come up before, could you tell us how it was fixed if someone wonders in the future (assuming it was)? --Raidarr (talk) 20:42, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to respond. I saw that Smashidachi (two questions above mine) had a similar sort of problem with his logo, so I just did what he did and uploaded the image with a new name, and I also changed its size to 135 x 135px. I did try just replacing the original image with the smaller version, but that didn't work. Fortunately, uploading the image with the other name did.
 * Not sure why replacing the image didn't work, but I guess I need to keep that in mind. I didn't delete the original file, maybe that would've helped?
 * Hope that helps! :D BenTable (talk) 01:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Subdomain Question
Hello. I am currently an admin of the SideM Wiki, which lists information on the two SideM games (one is an ongoing mobile game, the other is a defunct mobile game. Both are gacha-style games and are/were updated weekly with new information). A new SideM game will come out in a few months. It is another gacha mobile game that updates weekly. We are having trouble planning how to document all three games information on the same wiki as the new game appears to operate with a rebooted timeline separate from the first two. Keep in mind that the original game, which started seven years ago, is still running. It would be very confusing to have all of the information on the same wiki, so we decided to create a new wiki specifically for the third game.

Now, what I'm planning to do is something like this:

1. Get a domain name (e.g. www.sidem.wiki)

2. Assign the first wiki to mbga.sidem.wiki

3. Assign the second wiki to gs.sidem.wiki

4. Assign the main domain name to a free Wordpress account/other site to act as a 'hub' page between the two wikis

Would this be possible? Clay (talk) 13:20, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Completely, although it's a little more technical than just throwing one wiki on one domain. But there's no reason you can't attach a wiki to a subdomain and do whatever you want with the main one. The custom domains instructions apply mostly the same way (note the part on subdomains, like wiki.example.com), you just have to be careful to point each wiki in the right place and remember to set up your SSL certificate to subdomains as well, as they typically don't do that automatically. --Raidarr (talk) 13:56, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That's good to know, thank you! --Clay (talk) 00:56, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

A bit of a problem
I am having a bit of a problem. On Crappy Games Wiki, I suggested that the Qualitipedia wikis could have proposals. However, this suggestion was rejected, since the wiki would apparently get flooded with biased articles. However, on my side, consensus would be a more organized way to decide on issues rather than just polls. I suggested that at least regular proposals could be established, but it doesn't seem like they liked that idea either. However, this would help out a lot with decision making on the wikis. Dmehus himself said that he does not like that decisions on Qualitipedia are made by a small group of admins rather than the community (I don't remember where he said it). Also, there are currently three pages which I have brought up: Additionally, there is another problem surrounding Rotten Websites Wiki. A few weeks ago there was a coup on that wiki where a bunch of pages that got deleted were restored. The coup was supressed and the pages were deleted. What were those pages you may ask? Well, they were pages about anti-SJWs, which makes the wiki clearly biased towards the right-wing. Also, even though the wiki is about both websites and internet culture, the wiki seems way too political. Grust suggested that the SJW page should focus less on the ideology and more on them being, as he said, "killjoys". He later deleted this comment for unknown reasons. I would bring this up with the admins there, but they threatened to block me if I brought it up again, even though there is nothing in the policy about suggesting changes to a wiki. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:53, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Prehibernation Week being on Terrible Shows & Episodes Wiki despite having mostly positive reception. Even though it does seem to be getting hate as Duchess pointed out, the episode seems very divisive.
 * The Lego Ninjago Movie being on Greatest Movies Wiki despite having mostly negative reception. Again, critical reception seems to be mixed on The Lego Ninjago Movie but I have seen it mostly being rated poorly.
 * The most problematic and controversial page on Qualitipedia is Encyclopedia SpongeBobia's page on Fresh Websites Wiki. First of all, despite Encyclopedia SpongeBobia showing a clear trend of going downhill since 2019, as there are a lot of off-topic blogs, the admins there hardly do their job, and nobody takes the wiki seriously, Duchess continues to insist that the wiki is good. The largest piece of evidence that shows how bad the wiki is is the responses to Duchess's proposal about moving the wiki to Miraheze. The responses were basically users blindly defending FANDOM and making fun of Miraheze, with one user even calling Miraheze a "Wikipedia knockoff".


 * Unfortunately, since I am not an admin, and since MarioMario456 and DuchessTheSponge both threatened to block me if I mentioned this again, and also since I am blocked on the show and website wikis and thus cannot directly discuss the fate of those specific pages, I have no control over the situation and I am unable to come to a compromise with them out of fear of being blocked. There are a few other problems too such as admins repeatedly ignoring my requests and all of my blog posts on Crappy Games Wiki getting deleted for no apparent reason, but this is the biggest problem, and these problems should be brought up one by one. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:04, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I am considering putting Prehibernation Week on Best Shows & Episodes Wiki due to the positive reception, but I'll have to speak with Duchess. Anyway, consensus on deletion on reception wikis is a very bad idea, since it'll cause the wiki to get flooded with biased articles. We can look up the reception of specific media on sites like IMDb and GameFAQs to see if the piece of media is worthy of a page on the negative or positive wikis. —Mario Mario 456 19:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, no, Prehibernation Week can't be on BS&EW, I've spoken with and he showed that most people hate this episode. It was on ScumBob before the wiki's downfall. —Mario Mario 456  19:45, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Plus, you don't explain why The Lego Ninjago Movie got "negative reviews". If you look at it on Metacritic and IMDb, you can see it got mixed to positive reception. So, shut up. —Mario Mario 456 19:56, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * On Rotten Tomatoes the episode has a 56% critics score and a 46% audience score, and a B+ on CinemaScore. Also, PhantomStrider gave the episode a negative review. Anyway, both Prehibernation Week and The Lego Ninjago Movie are far too mixed to be on either wiki, so they could be listed as forbidden pages.
 * Additionally, I can deal with Prehibernation Week and The Lego Ninjago Movie. But you ignored my other two problems I brought up above. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:16, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Just because ONE single person disliked a movie doesn't mean it's bad. Also, B+ is still a decent score on CinemaScore. —<span style="color:red;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#f00,#c04);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">Mario <span style="color:purple;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#808,#40c);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">Mario <span style="color:purple;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#20d,#00f);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">456 20:19, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You forgot to mention how it has a 56% critical score and a 46% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, both of which mean that the movie has a rotten rating. I feel like The Lego Ninjago Movie shouldn't be on either wiki since it is way too mixed. Same with Prehibernation Week. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:21, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Can we please have a good read of CoC. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  08:46, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if there's an element of content policy or similar being violated here, which is the frame you should consider when raising local wiki moderation issues on meta. They ultimately have their reasons for the oligarchical approval approach, although it runs counter to meta/default preferred decision making by community referendum. It does seem impractical to handle every page (except controversial ones) by consensus, so that may not be the best approach to suggest. But there is a broader thing raised that interests me.
 * It would be interesting to hear from the Stewards if not having a clear platform for an issue like this locally is a problem, or from the local administrators if there is a way to handle this kind of basically internal complaint locally without concern of retribution. I have to say, this is the sort of comment that should be made on a general 'Qualitipedia Meta' discussion board, which I'm not sure exists. It seems like a valid thing to consider if there is a common network of linked wikis and their rules + standards, and such an argument should be able to be platformed somewhere even if the administration disagrees or plainly, thinks that it is dumb. A reasonable admin veto after inconclusive discussion is reasonable. But this exchange between clearly invested parties can make observers look uneasy if left unaddressed and the only local administrator response is bringing along the stick by raising and debunking specific points of an argument that seems symptomatic of the issue that Bluba is raising. The small comment chain above I think would be better platformed locally than here on meta, imo.
 * But at the end of the day Bluba, right now it seems like you and the 'Qualitipedia' mini-network are not a good fit. Unless there's more to the wider issue of having a local platform to safely discuss these issues in a vacuum (a dedicated talk page or whatever), it might be best to simply go somewhere more liberal. I don't know your status with the New Reception Wiki, but perhaps it would allow you to attempt constructive pages with evidence contrary to what is otherwise posted on Qualitipedia wikis. My 2c, -- Raidarr (talk) 20:21, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * But I like the Reception Wikis. I do not have a problem with the wikis themselves, I am just making suggestions on how to improve the wikis yet the admins (specifically MarioMario456 and DuchessTheSponge) seem to be against me for some reason. Also, this is lying underneath a different problem, since there is no such thing as consensus on Qualitipedia. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:24, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The wikis I used to edit the most were Terrible Shows & Episodes Wiki and Best Shows & Episodes Wiki but I am blocked on both those wikis for reasons that were brought up in a few past discussions. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:26, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I also edit at Great Characters Wiki and Loathsome Characters Wiki. The main reason I have been contacting them on Crappy Games Wiki is that it seems to be the most active Qualitipedia wiki. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The consensus issue is the biggest point in a meta scope I think, what do the local administrators think regarding this accusation? That one's much more interesting than disputes regarding individual titles and how good they are. --Raidarr (talk) 20:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I made a blog post on Crappy Games Wiki suggesting the idea of proposals and it got deleted by Duchess with the block summary being "No". He also deleted my other blogs for no apparent reason.
 * I do feel like consensus would help resolve these issues. However I am also blocked on the websites wikis for the same reason I am blocked on the show wikis, which has been explained in several past discussions. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I did talk to Duchess about the blogs on Crappy Games Wiki. The discussion was deleted however by MarioMario456 where he basically said that it would result in biased pages, then he commented that he thinks that Encyclopedia SpongeBobia has not gone downhill when it has gone downhill for reasons I addressed above. Additionally, there was a dispute a while ago about the Encyclopedia SpongeBobia page on Fresh Websites Wiki. Me and Duchess came to an agreement that it would be called Encyclopedia SpongeBobia (2007-2019, 2021-present). However, despite our agreement, he later reverted it to just Encyclopedia SpongeBobia just because I was blocked on Fresh Websites Wiki and thus could not do anything about it. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:36, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That is something I'll ping someone like and whichever stewards to look at for the record and observe, as well as wait for local administrator response such as  on since at face value it certainly does not look great. But perhaps there's another side that's gone unmentioned that would make these events a reasonable choice. I'm honestly not sure if MH policy has say in this, or what say it has if it does. --Raidarr (talk) 20:39, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. And it is not MarioMario346 Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:40, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I corrected the error shortly after posting; I'm terrible at catching typos until seconds after :P --Raidarr (talk) 20:45, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:48, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

This is definitely going on the records book for generally raising the same issue that should've been resolved by now. I'm sure Doug will be around later on tonight or something, as he has a few things to look into at some point. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:42, 13 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Exactly. In essence I have had problems with this sort of thing since December. There have been three separate discussions about this, one of which expanded to a few different talk pages. My problems with Duchess however expand beyond Qualitipedia and go back to before I even knew what Miraheze was. These issues technically have been resolved but seem to regularly come up again. It seems like this is multiple different problems that keep coming up. There are a bunch of different threads and posts where this has been discussed, but many of them have been deleted. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:47, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This statement seems very much like a personal problem, and a personal issue with one of the administrators is not conductive to getting things fixed. It seems likely a lot of this issue is because you're considered to have many local behavioral issues and they just don't want to deal with it, which can make one wonder if your issue with consensus is really a wider problem or if it's a case of just you. Focusing on the subject at hand and avoiding tangents may somewhat lighten this impression when attempting to discuss with them/broadly. --Raidarr (talk) 20:58, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It is indeed a larger problem since there have been cases where others have discussed this, but it is also that I feel that I am being treated unfairly. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:16, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Please make me administrator of my own wiki
Hello. I just asked for a wiki creation (ownsc.miraheze.org). But It seems that I don't have admin rights for it. Mihai1103 (talk) 12:40, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello Mihai - this request belongs on (and maybe moved to) Stewards' noticeboard. Unfortunately it is not the first time, and only a Steward can fix this for you. You mentioned in Request 19215 to ping you if this occurred again. It is now the third instance I've witnessed. Two questions for  just to make sure this is what I think it is, can you see any "manage this wiki's..." administrator settings on the sidebar when you view your wiki, and is it indeed the wiki ownsc.miraheze.org? --Raidarr (talk) 13:20, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's the ownsc.miraheze.org wiki. And no, I don't have the "manage this wiki's" settings on the sidebar. I can only see the "tools" section. Mihai1103 (talk) 13:23, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Indeed, this user has no rights on their wiki, see the CentralAuth lookup. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:04, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * For observer's record, this was handled on stewards' noticeboard by Void. --Raidarr (talk) 00:55, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Missing Wiki - help needed to find it!
Hello all, I have been the editor of soilproject.miraheze.org, but we did not frequently update the Wiki. I've just checked in and realised that the site is missing - possibly due to the MetaWiki upgrade. I would like some help please to figure out how to find, and reinstall the data for this wiki! Does anyone have a clue how I can do this?

Thank you very much in advance - we had quite some content and links on it!

my best, Huiying Crumb (talk) 16:52, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, in accordance with our Dormancy Policy, your wiki was deleted for inactivity. At this point the database has also been deleted, and thus we can't restore your wiki. I apologize for any trouble this may have caused you. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 16:57, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * As MacFan4000 pointed out, your wiki seems to have been deleted pursuant to the Dormancy Policy. After 6 months of no activity, your wiki is closed and deleted. However, it may be possible to restore your wiki. First, request the wiki again. Secondly, open a Phabricator ticket asking if it would be possible to restore the data on your wiki. Usually, it's possible to restore the wiki however there is no guarantee as to it. Hope this helps! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 17:26, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Internet archive has archived only one version of the main page, was this a private wiki? So there is no hope to find the site in this archive, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 19:19, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Does anyone use tabs extension?
Does anyone use the Tabs Extension and can link to a working example? This extension causes me some headache, things do not work as expected but this might be my fault, I would really apprechiate a link to a usage example, thank you very much --Lily talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 19:16, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * FAMEPedia does. —<span style="color:red;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">Bu <span style="color:orange;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#F83A0C,#FF6347);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">kk <span style="color:orange;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#FFD228,#FED057);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">it 19:20, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your feedback, do you know a specific page which uses this extension? Famepedia has several thousand pages, and I do not know a way to find out where a specific extension is used. Maybe there is, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 20:17, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The main page. —<span style="color:red;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#CF121F,#F83A0C);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">Bu <span style="color:orange;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#F83A0C,#FF6347);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">kk <span style="color:orange;background:-webkit-linear-gradient(0deg,#FFD228,#FED057);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent">it 20:19, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the hint, I was looking for "tabs" (there is a slight difference between "tabs" and "tabber", they are different extensions), thus I could not find "tabs" on the main page. Tabber seems to work better anyway, so I think I will use tabber for my templates, greetings, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 06:46, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


 * We use both tabs and tabber on this page on All The Tropes. --Robkelk (talk) 14:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you greetings --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 15:11, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Tokusatsu Miraheze
This wiki tokusatsu.miraheze.org could benefit from new admins. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 23:56, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you intend by this? I'd think requests for adoption would be appropriate, but the wiki is not locked and there seems to be some form of life there. So perhaps contacting the current admins and seeing if they respond is the best first step, and if/when they don't after waiting for a while (and establishing yourself with contributions), go for a local election based on whoever is still around. If no community or everyone is in favor, you might be able to petition the Stewards from there. --Raidarr (talk) 00:54, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm explaining that there need to be new admins. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 14:05, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks to me like every active user on that wiki is already an admin. Why would they need more admins? (I see why they need more users.) --Robkelk (talk) 14:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Would you like to contribute there? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 14:35, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I know nothing about toku other than that it exists. I have linked to your wiki from the Toku page on All The Tropes, though - that might get you some volunteers. --Robkelk (talk) 15:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 15:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * So what is the point of this 'explanation'? What are you seeking from the Community Noticeboard? --Raidarr (talk) 18:25, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Translate project
If You need any other translate help, give me a message in TranslateWiki, I have same account there as Executive ;)

For a safer & better web, trust Humans not only machines!-Cit: --[[User:Executive2|Executive2] (talk) 14:15, 15 July 2021 (UTC)]

Is there a list of the public wikis that Miraheze hosts?
Specifically, I'm looking for wikis that discuss particular works of fiction. We'd like to link to them from the pages on All The Tropes that discuss the particular works, but in order to do that, we need to know of their existence. Robkelk (talk) 14:19, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Consider the Special:WikiDiscover page where you can filter options to exactly what you seek with categories and public/private, although it will be a bit of a slog (especially for wiki state of activity and completion). I'm afraid there's not an exact category for what you say, but some of them should lead the right direction. For a much less complete list (but still a place to start), there's the much shorter Gazetteer of wikis. --Raidarr (talk) 14:36, 15 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you, . I see a few wikis on the gazetteer that we can link to right away. --Robkelk (talk) 15:34, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Quick question, Is there a miraheze equvilent to fantendo?
Is there a miraheze equvilent to fantendo, I want to post fan ideas but dont want to join fandom after hearing the bad things (unless fantendo is one of the friendlier fandom communities) Glubbfubb (talk) 23:43, 15 July 2021 (UTC)GlubbfubbGlubbfubb (talk) 23:43, 15 July 2021 (UTC) Glubbfubb (talk) 23:43, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Please create Test Ground wiki
https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/19325

I'm going to be doing a lot of stuff and I don't want to have to worry about interfering with anyone else. It doesn't seem like it should be an issue to have my own space to experiment with things. Тишина (talk) 02:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Per the decline comment, you should use the Miraheze Test Wiki. It is very useful and you won't be interfering with anyone. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:43, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm going to test a JavaScript bot for importing wikis so I'm going to be creating and deleting a lot of pages. Тишина (talk) 02:46, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Not an issue at all, just make sure to add yourselves to the "bot" group on the Test Wiki so as to not clutter the Recent Changes. See you there! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:50, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Pokemon.miraheze.org
Can a steward help me with something? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 01:24, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Your request for adoption will be replied to accordingly, please be patient and remember that Stewards are volunteers too. Thank you! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 01:28, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I know, but when I try to save the changes the abuse filter is triggered. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 01:36, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I've adjusted the abuse filter so this should no longer happen. -- Void  Whispers 02:07, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * In addition to my previous comment, please also add a reason to your adoption request or else it may be closed as invalid. Thanks! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 01:30, 17 July 2021 (UTC)