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Delete edgewiki
Per https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T8622 Naleksuh (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅. Dmehus (talk) 05:51, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Reopen a wiki
Can a Steward or someone who has permission unlock the Megaman Miraheze? That's all. I also have no idea who is an admin or whatever. ZX-EXE (talk) 19:15, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I saw your reopening request in the RfA, he's referring to this one: megaman.miraheze.org. The wikis were closed by mistake. If you want rights to the wiki, do a local election when someone opens it. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 19:22, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Follow up note that this was ✅ on Requests for adoption. Raidarr (talk) 22:11, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Delete my wiki
Hello I just wanted to see if you could delete my wiki. I created it a while back but now I want to spend time on another wiki. And since it has stayed inactive for over 2 months with no page outside of templates, I think it should be available for deletion. Thanks! Lastro (talk) 14:43, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Lastro, ✅ per the articulated rationale of your request as the sole contributor to this wiki. Dmehus (talk) 05:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Wiki put up for Adoption as a Mistake- Steward Required to Fix
Hello! I was notified that my Wiki godswars was recently put up for adoption due to inactivity, however there was activity 30 days ago on the Wiki. I responded on the adoption page, and was told the following: "According to the wiki's Special:AncientPages, the wiki was recently edited (Dec 19) and not 60 days ago. This is a post-migration bug. You can notify wiki bureaucrats (to reopen at Special:ManageWiki/core) or request this from a steward at stewards noticeboard." by YellowFrogger. I am hoping this can be fixed and my Wiki can be re-opened. Thank you! Tiresias (talk) 16:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Tiresias, I'm not actually seeing where your wiki was closed or reopened. In any case, this looks to have been ✅. Dmehus (talk) 05:38, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like it was re-opened and is thus resolved now, thank you! Tiresias (talk) 22:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Delete this wiki
I'm the only active administrator of Partyball wiki: https://partyball.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

This wiki is inactive for a long time with no edits. The staff and the userbase have abandoned the wiki. I tried to contact Nathangamer1993 but received no response. I believe it's time to move on. Thanks. SchizoACC (talk) 03:48, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


 * SchizoACC, ✅ per the articulated rationale of your request. Dmehus (talk) 05:27, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

I fucked up
When I got my Wiki I had removed the bureaucrat group locking me out of the wiki please help and re-add the group with all the permissions or at least the default permissions please I'm desperate Octahedron foundation (talk) 23:10, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Your wiki is private, I don't see what's there. But according to your CentralAuth you are still a sysop on the wiki. Sysops can add themselves as bureaucrats in Special:UserRights. Or wait for a steward to give you bureaucrat rights again and consider your words on this page. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 23:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * it doesn't say that for me it says I'm an administrator — Preceding unsigned comment added by Octahedron foundation (talk • contribs)
 * "Sysop" is just a synonym for "administrator". You should be able to add back the crat permission to your account. PorkchopGMX (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't I'm only an administrator so I can't really do much Octahedron foundation (talk) 14:39, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * By default, bureaucrats are the ones who can add/remove sysops, add bureaucrats, and change wiki settings, which sysops can't do. Furthermore,, you may wish to avoid using profanity in your request titles in the future. — Arcversin (talk) 14:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * cool Octahedron foundation (talk) 14:51, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I already took the test at https://protonbus.miraheze.org/. Really sysops cannot add themselves like bureaucrats (nor remove themselves). I don't know what you did to stop being a bureaucrat, you probably even removed the group and now you'll have to wait for a steward to add it back. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 14:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I deleted the groupOctahedron foundation (talk) 21:11, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

recover from "dark mode" by deleting pages
https://isac.miraheze.org/ has been set to "dark mode", which is a disaster for the development of our educational software in applied mathematics.

The "dark mode" informed us about the reason for the shutdown, the pages

https://isac.miraheze.org/wiki/Foren_RESPEKT_OOe.

These pages have been created by urgent needs raised by a citizens' intiative, which appears to be in conflict with the original purpose of isac.

So we have decided to remove all pages related to wiki/Foren_RESPEKT_OOe. Now we feel ready to kindly ask for access rights for the purpose of removing these "dark" pages.

We found isac.miraheze very useful for our development process and would like to continue with (only) that. Walther Neuper http://www.ist.tugraz.at/neuper/

PS: I apologise for having used my wife's computer in order to contact you with my kind request. MaxMoritz (talk) 10:27, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't quite understand your comment, but you said that DarkMode got in your way due to a bug? Anything, report it on Phabricator. To remove the dark theme, remove the DarkMode extension in Special:ManageWiki/extensions --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 13:07, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * "Dark mode" is something each individual reader of your wiki can turn on/off themselves by clicking the "Dark mode" link in the upper right hand corner. As YellowFrogger said, you can disable the feature entirely should it be causing problems. — Arcversin (talk) 14:52, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Statistics page bugs
Hello.

On the statistics page there are two anomalies:
 * 1) Several user groups do not appear in the visualization. See here.
 * 2) The number of active users is not correct. Please compare this (no active users) with this (one active user).

Both failures occur as of January 20. Thank you. Kind regards. Hugo Ar (talk) 15:27, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. This is the same bug after migration (which caused rebuild on recent changes). The page you showed is a file, probably after the day of the migration. This will likely go back to normal. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 15:30, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * The problem occurs since January 20. Until January 20 (that is, 6 days after the migration) everything worked correctly. Can a technician answer my query, please? Thank you in advance. Greetings. Hugo Ar (talk) 15:36, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Regarding #2, it is indeed a temporary issue due to the Recent Changes on all wikis temporarily being missing. The Active Users count will be fixed next time the script that updates them is run (which I believe is the 1st or the 5th?). Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Plagiarism and abusive behavior
Hello! (I hope this is the correct place to write this)

I am a member on the Backrooms' community in the Fandom site, and a user in our Discord server has pointed out to us the existence of this wiki: https://thebackrooms.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

Long story short: The Backrooms have a lot of different wikis and their owner Jacobdapro08 wanted to make a single view of the world. However, they copied a lot of pages from other databases, including mine.

Proof of their copy: https://thebackrooms.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Level_30&action=history Proof that I wrote it: https://backrooms.fandom.com/wiki/Level_30?action=history

Adding to this, they never asked me if they could transport my page into their wiki: https://backrooms.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:OGominho

Not only that, but their way of crediting doesn't follow the CC BY SA 4.0 terms. Some hours after my level was removed by the owner and another admin went there to ask about the pages being plagiarized, the owner blocked both me and Knafflad from his wiki, and I can't see any rule that I may have broken: https://thebackrooms.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/block

I'd like to know what could be done about it, since most of the pages contained there are either plagiarized from Fandom or one of the two databases on Wikidot. OGominho (talk) 18:13, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Whoa, hold it. Both your wiki, and the wiki you've reported have a similar license which has the CC-BY-SA license. Only difference is that the Miraheze version has the CC-BY-SA 4.0 license. What's there to even process here? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , As stated above by the user, he violated the license did not ask permission or ignored and blocked users who would talk to him. This is what was said by the user. Although a user has to put up with using CC-BY-SA as it allows for duplicate content (with the source being cited), but does not have the need to ask the author's permission, since the author who placed the license implemented it. It is worth remembering that duplicate content is hardly indexed on Google (in rare cases) and FANDOM indexing is very good, this user will hardly benefit from this duplicate content. It was nice of you to bring this here. I'll bring it to his attention too (anyway, including here if his wiki is protected), but I would recommend that you bring more for us to deal with. --YellowFrogger  ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:24, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Stewards have been informed and will surely soon respond. Please standby. Thank you. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:19, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Exemption from Dormancy Policy
Hello, I was wondering if there has ever been a conversation about exemption from the Dormancy Policy based on voluntary monetary contributions? I have several wiki ideas, but am more apt to develop them over longer periods of time. Thanks for the consideration of the question. Best, User:MarkDilley 20:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * There is no need whatsoever. Any wiki that needs a dormancy policy exemption can get it fairly easy. The standards are not high at all. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  20:20, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As stated above, there really isn't a specific standard for this. But I've noticed that wikis with more content are more likely to have the exemption approved, and/or if the user who requested the exemption submitted a good case for doing so. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:30, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Backrooms Situation
Hello. I moderate on the Backrooms Fandom. This wiki (https://thebackrooms.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) has plagarised pages near word-for-word or actually word-for-word from the Backrooms Fandom, Liminal Archives Wikidot, and Backrooms Tech Support Wikidot (I notice that some of the plagarised levels were old versions before we cleaned up the Fandom, I can't tell if this was a way to avoid detection or if the wiki's legitimately been around for 7 months). Another moderator (Gominho) saw that one of their levels was plagarised, and asked for proper credit to be given. The owner gave no direct answers, and pointed to a vague "Credit to all writers" notice with no links attached. When Gominho and an author of a Liminal Archives page that was stolen pressed harder, they were both blocked. The owner also created a list of users with insults on the main page. There are also accusations of pedophilia here. I don't know any of the people accused, and they may or may not be valid. Here is what I do know:

La_ragazza_della_spyon apparently DID send a death threat and vandalize the wiki (We have another user of our wiki as a witness). I haven't found the actual thing at this point, but this account should be terminated. We want it to be known that we did not condone any of these actions.

Egglord is pretty much universally beloved on the wiki, and I know for a fact that they aren't displaying corruption or toxicity (No unnecessary deletion / banning, lots of contributions, no abuse / insults).

I can confirm that the insults towards Egglord are definitely unsubstantiated, and a few of the other ones likely are as well. They also unnecessarily blocked a few of our members who were approaching the issue in a healthy manner. They have not added credit (One page had credit added to it by our members) and have started deleting attempts to contact them.

Please handle this issue in any way that you see fit.

EDIT: Turns out Gominho already made a post and had a response. Sorry for the duplicate post.

Thank you, PuppyBorkbutaccountgotwiped (talk) 21:58, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Another wiki that was closed for inactivity despite not being inactive
mh:amazingtwitterusers:Amazing Twitter Users Wiki was last edited on January 4, 2022, and yet, it was closed because of no edits or logs in the last 60 days. The last edit or log change made was only 15 days ago (sorry if my math is bad but I think that's right). Could a steward please reopen it? FatBurn0000 (talk) 03:11, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It also may be worth noting that the only bureaucrat with contributions on the wiki is globally locked, so should perhaps be removed locally. dross  (t • c • g) 03:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There was a bug in recent changes (restoration process) that caused wikis to close (even though they were active) after migration. You can open the wiki at Special:ManageWiki/core or ask a steward to do so (and it looks like you did it here).. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 03:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know, I just would like it to be reopened. Also I'm not a bureaucrat, so I can't reopen it. Also, another bureaucrat is Caulipower, but I don't think they contributed. FatBurn0000 (talk) 09:18, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Update: The wiki has already been reopened. FatBurn0000 (talk) 21:33, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Wiki exemption request
I would like to request that https://kunwok.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page be exempt from the 2 month inactivity/expiration rule. This wiki contains materials for learning an endangered Australian Aboriginal language. It will always be under development, but will regularly have periods of no editing. It would be a pity if this carefully curated material disappeared, just because it was not being actively edited. Thanks for your consideration. StevenBird (talk) 03:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * StevenBird, while I am willing to consider and review your request for a Dormancy Policy exemption, I would like to first clarify that wikis are not "expired" or in any way deleted after only two months. They do go inactive and are marked as closed after sixty (60) days of 'complete inactivity (i.e., no edits or nearly all logged actions), thereby prohibiting editing by non-administrators on that wiki. However, at any time between 60 days and 179 days, the wiki may be reopened by a local  or by a Steward following a request from a local contributor to your wiki. If you would still like me to review your request for an exemption to the policy, can you please let me know when you will be substantially finished with editing your wiki and how many pages you anticipate having (in your wiki's   namespace)? Additionally, please do note that there is no permanent exemption; there are indefinite exemptions, but these can be changed or removed at any time when no longer needed, warranted, or qualified. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 05:45, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus, thanks for your response. I expect this wiki will be under continual development, while a small group of us add new learning resources for this language. Perhaps it will stabilise in 5 years. I guess there are a couple of dozen pages now, and this figure may rise to 100 pages 5 years. Thanks for your consideration. StevenBird (talk) 04:54, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

THANKS: recover from "dark mode" by deleting pages
I'm glad to be able to use my proper identity again in order to express my sincere gratitude for immediately dissolving the blockage as described in the post below.

I assume, the reason for blocking by "dark mode" were records broken during your recent software update. But we removed all pages related to wiki/Foren_RESPEKT_OOe as promised.

May we leave the link weiterschalten until our collaborators have noticed our new address?

/---\ original post delivered with the identity MaxMoritz --- recover from "dark mode" by deleting pages

https://isac.miraheze.org/ has been set to "dark mode", which is a disaster for the development of our educational software in applied mathematics.

The "dark mode" shows the reason for the shutdown, the pages

https://isac.miraheze.org/wiki/Foren_RESPEKT_OOe.

These pages have been created by urgent needs raised by a citizens' iniative, which appears to be in conflict with the original purpose of isac.

So we have decided to remove all pages related to wiki/Foren_RESPEKT_OOe. Now we feel ready to kindly ask for access rights for the only purpose of removing these "dark" pages.

We found isac.miraheze very useful for our development process and would like to continue with (only) that. Walther Neuper http://www.ist.tugraz.at/neuper/

PS: Please apologise that I used my wife's computer in order to bypass the blockade by dark mode. Walther (talk) 11:49, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

CheckUser request PNY10004


Template:Ask to was created by PNY10004 and testwiki:Template:Ask to was created by TheMapotakes. Template:Text and user was created by PNY10004 and testwiki:Template:Text and user was created by PNY10004 and TheMapotakes. Both templates are the same gibberish. Seems like w:WP:DUCK to me but not completely confirmed. Naleksuh (talk) 22:18, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yesterday there was a user with suspicious activity, making several small edits (which ones you reverted) to various pages. And it is very similar to PNY, which has already been blocked and creates useless templates. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 22:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It was this one specifically: User:IdiosyncraticLawyer --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 22:33, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I do agree that there's some funny business going on here, but given that TheMapotakes was just recently revived to insert the same type of nonsensical templates from Meta to the Public Test Wiki, let's just wait and see what or another Steward has to say on the matter. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * While TestWiki is, by its very purpose, a test wiki, and the user did appear to go to Public Test Wiki after being warned on Meta Wiki, I do agree that the nature of their template creations suggest they're not acting in 100% good-faith. As such, I have firmly ✅ the user with respect to operating multiple accounts in an apparently deliberate attempt to be duplicitous. Please advise of further infractions. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 20:43, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Inactivity of a wiki creator
Hi! There is a wiki creator calling Integer, on which he is very inactive (his last action as a wiki creator was in March 2021, 10 months without acting like wiki creator, and its last edit being in August 2021, 5 months). Because of this, I hope his rights are unfortunately revoked for absenteeism. A user had already asked this last month about two wiki creators, one of which, CircleyDoesExtracter, had its rights revoked for inactivity, while User:Dmehus sent a note to the Integer talk page, informing about the inactivity as a wiki creator. However, there was no response. It is for inactivity that his wiki creator rights must be revoked, and we thank him for his service in Miraheze (before becoming wiki creator or not). Thanks. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 05:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Given Dmehus has followed up and not gotten a response, I think a revocation is suitable in this case. Last apparent Miraheze activity as a whole based on CentralAuth was here in late October. --Raidarr (talk) 11:32, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's why I'm remembering. He doesn't seem to have time to edit in Miraheze anymore. I don't know if you remember (probably not because you didn't know Miraheze at the time), but he was the same user who speaks several languages and was referred by someone else. Since then, I have never seen him participate in a community way. If he didn't see the message, he probably doesn't even visit Meta anymore. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 19:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ per inactivity clause of the Wiki creators policy, but note that this was on my to-do list of actionable priorities for this weekend, so there was not any need for this additional thread. Dmehus (talk) 19:42, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

The content policy of Miraheze is flawed and should change
Miraheze does not allow articles about people in wikis when in reality we aren't harassing anyone, we are just criticizing people, and this rule should be removed since there are celebrities that are bad at acting and/or are rude towards their fans and also, there are some celebrities that have committed crimes, such as Victor Salva (who has been convicted of sexual misconduct with a 12-year-old boy), Bill Cosby (who has been found guilty of rape in 2018) or Amber Heard (who abused Johnny Depp and accused him of abusing her, she also abused of her ex-girlfriend and got arrested as a result, and also stole money from charity, which is a felony), there are also YouTubers that have committed crimes such as Peluchin Entertainment (the boy who murdered kittens and also appeared in the news because of it) for example, and horrible people like them deserve to be criticized.

also, back in 2019 pages about FuturisticHub were banned, I know this is an old thing but this was a very dumb move, the reception wikis were not harassing him, just criticizing him plus this shows how he can't take criticism at all, there is no need to ban pages about him since we are criticizing him since he as done bad things such as harassing people.

It is just stupid how no one had the guts to speak out about this. SuperSoul (talk) 19:09, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * for a number of reasons. For 1, not a lot of the pages on the celebrities were sourced, and 2nd, even if that were to happen, it would be chaotic for everybody, so therefore, not going to happen for those reasons. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:14, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * In addition, we have no plans on re-adding the articles about users or groups of people as part of the ban against articles on real people on the Qualitipedia Network. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:17, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Pages about celebrities shouldn't be banned on the Qualitipedias because:
 * 1.- We do not harass people, we criticize them.
 * 2.- Some celebrities mistreat their fans (such as some Funimation voice actors) and/or have commited crimes such as those I've mentioned before or even support criminals, and we need to criticize that kind of behavior.
 * 3.- it is so hard to add sources to a page?.
 * I am criticizing this because this is just bad for the Qualitipedias. SuperSoul (talk) 19:41, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. Content against a person or group of people is not allowed on Miraheze, even if they have done something controversial (let's be partial on the information). Miraheze funded solely by donations, and if judged by the content of these wikis, by one of these people? It's what I think. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 19:18, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, Miraheze could be harmed just by hosting these categories. If you want such a wiki, you can host your own and import its contents into Special:DataDump. See the MediaWiki installation tutorial. Unfortunately it can be annoying, but it's to avoid any problems. Thank you for your understanding. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 19:27, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * you can't differentiate between harassment and criticism? how dumb, as I said multiple times bad people deserve to be criticized, even if they are criminals, being not able to handle criticism is a red flag. SuperSoul (talk) 09:28, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * SuperSoul, firstly, you should know that Content Policy does not prohibit pages which provide for reliably sourced encyclopedia content about real people; content which is potentially defamatory and libelous, is, of course, prohibited by Content Policy, as well as other policies. Content Policy does prohibit wholly or significantly negative content about subjects (usually people, since those are the ones that are the source of complaints, whether from the subject or from the community). As well, noting your pattern of editing contributions which is substantially similar to two or more user accounts that were globally locked, can you also clarify whether you have created other accounts and/or used on Miraheze? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 19:39, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * We are not defaming anyone, we are against defamation, and we are criticizing nasty people who do bad things, plus some famous people can't take criticism (such as for example Derek Savage, who once threated someone who made a video criticizing him), don't be an idiot. SuperSoul (talk) 19:52, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't be insulting a Steward like that, as that's not going to bring you anything good. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:53, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 I'm not sure you said "insulting a Steward." Insulting any user, is not okay. :) Dmehus (talk) 21:16, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but seeing as though SuperSoul doesn't get the point only bothers me, and I'd bet it would bother you if it was going on constantly from a user, wouldn't you say? --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:22, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree the user's conduct is indeed problematic, but where I disagree is the need to differentiate or distinguish between conduct directed to a user holding advanced permissions and one that holds no advanced permissions. Hope that clarifies. Dmehus (talk) 21:28, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * the Miraheze staff are the ones acting dumb here, that's the problem here. SuperSoul (talk) 09:14, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Please remember to maintain civility and avoid rudeness. Your remarks are clear personal attacks and as such, you are encouraged to stop calling people 'dumb' while keeping in mind that we are talking about a policy, not about someone. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 09:36, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my rudeness, but the content policy of Miraheze has problems and needs some changes. SuperSoul (talk) 09:48, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * SuperSoul, I'm not sure what you're getting at, as I've not received any complaints from users about one or more pages on your wiki. I'm not even aware on which wiki you're talking about, either. Furthermore, I would additionally note that, on occasion, Stewards have removed a few pages from Qualitipedia wikis (usually ) for Content Policy issues, but closing or deleting a wiki is not taken lightly. Where possible, as with the Trust and Safety team, we take the minimum required remedial action. Dmehus (talk) 21:19, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * According to his final words, the type of content on QP can now be contested. And, it can't follow Qualitipedia's standards with Why this is bad? sections if it did, it would be defamation against a group of people, according to CP. You can bring partial and true information. And, calm down, and follow the code of conduct. Thanks. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 20:06, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No, we are not defamating anyone, we are just calling out people for their bad actions such as mistreating people or commiting crimes, and I am critizing Miraheze for how it has done downhill by becoming more strict. SuperSoul (talk) 09:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It would seem clear to me that you didn't listen to the points given to you by me, Dmehus, Agent Isai and YellowFrogger. And that dismissive tone towards a Steward is just proof that you either don't care about the points expressed to you, or you are unaware of Miraheze's policies as a whole. I think we should just drop the stick, as this thread has already served its purpose, and is no longer really relevant. This goes for everybody else involved in this thread. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:26, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As a local bureaucrat on Qualitipedia wikis, let me make a few things clear.
 * What's in issue here is the local policy of respective wikis, not the overall Miraheze Content Policy as outlined above. This was an issue decided upon locally by RfC. If you have an issue with it, you should take it up locally.
 * There are too many editors who lack the maturity to address real people especially on negative wikis in a neutral way, too quick to cause controversy in a simple exchange. At best it would be a headache to moderate the pages in a way that wouldn't require extensive local or even global intervention.
 * This thread is a case in point for above, abrasive from the start diving into uncivil and muddied conversation. The above was for the history of the subjects. This thread continues the case in point.
 * There is considerable mixed information on the subject and I am available to direct inquiries on the matter being discussed. The above I believe is the true response to this topic. --Raidarr (talk) 23:18, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Raidarr, for clearing that up. That's a good point that the Qualitipedia wikis have an additional, local content policy, which the global Content Policy strongly encourages local wikis to adopt a supplemental local policy. Dmehus (talk) 23:22, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The reception wikis are dedicated to criticism, not insult people, and those articles were not dediated to defamation, if disussions happen you can delete those posts or even block those users, it is very easy to delete things as an admin, as I mentioned before some celebrities have commited crimes or mistreat the people who worked with them and their fans, and those articles had a lot of useful information, think about that again. SuperSoul (talk) 09:23, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The reception wikis are dedicated to definable reception.That is their objective and that is what they are being organized around. People are not topical to any of the particular reception wikis and have demonstrated enough issues. Spending excess time deleting symptoms of problems does not solve them. There are other places on the internet to document what you speak where the pages are on topic. There is even a wiki on Miraheze for what you speak of where the content is actually topical and curated. I suggest dedicating your attention there if you believe in what you are posting and intend to use proper sourcing for bolder claims. --Raidarr (talk) 09:34, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * What about disabling the comments section of some articles? banning users is very easy for moderators, everyone has flaws and we need to learn from our mistakes, not become dumber with time, some people that used to have articles on the negative reception wikis can't have articles on Real Life Villains wiki because they aren't heinous enough to qualify as "villains". SuperSoul (talk) 13:50, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Disabling the comments wouldn't really help in that scenario. Besides, what's the point of disabling the comments? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:39, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * What about protecting the pages? the admins can protect pages so only a few users can edit them. removing the comments section is very easy and can help to avoid drama. SuperSoul (talk) 12:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, but then again, we've already said what we had to say here, so let's just drop the subject and leave this as is. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:01, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Bad admin, part 2
So, you remember my “Really Bad Admin Alert” post. Well guess what? The user WellFiredToast has not responded. As i’ve said, this block on mightythornberry.miraheze.org is so unfair and I should be unblocked, it’s been 2 weeks and so far, NOTHING! TheCoolStranger45 (talk) 05:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I've already messaged him on his own wiki talk page (the one you've been blocked from) and he hasn't responded. I recommend you to ignore this, as most of these locks on wikis with 0 edits don't matter. Let's wait for a steward's opinion (or if he will remove the block). --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 05:34, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * TheCoolStranger45, thanks, I've ✅ from WellFiredToast on their local user talk page. Can you confirm if you had a Fandom account of the same, or very similar, username? Additionally, can you also confirm if you have created other Miraheze user accounts and, if so, which ones they are? It's fine if you have, but for transparency purposes, should be disclosed. I would also caution you against using those accounts on  until this is resolved. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

hi

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * No Steward action required. Dmehus (talk) 18:01, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

can u get rid of this wiki drawnfeet.miraheze.org Snail destroyer (talk) 16:59, 25 January 2022 (UTC) drawnfeet.miraheze.org


 * Would you mind explaining why you want this wiki deleted? Also, you should acknowledge whether or not the wiki has an active community or not and if it violates Miraheze's Content Policy. Marxo Grouch (talk) 17:07, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This user, Octahedron foundation has been fooling around recently, but I'm not sure what he's getting at with this request. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:28, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fooling around? How so? Marxo Grouch (talk) 17:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Check the warnings he received on his talk page within a week since his account was registered. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's all I needed to see. This is probably more of their nonsense. Marxo Grouch (talk) 17:39, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This user come disturbing others. Even so, the question remains why he wants to delete this wiki? --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 17:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * the wiki is for foot fetishs its fucking gross Snail destroyer (talk) 17:45, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have evidence that the wiki is in violation of Content Policy? It would be nice if you could send it to us. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 17:48, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * LOOK AT THE WIKI Snail destroyer (talk) 14:57, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That type of attitude will likely get you blocked by a Meta admin if you continue to use that demanding tone. It's uncivil and is leaning towards disruptive behavior. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:08, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * still the wiki is just gross like how just HOW was it even accepted its just for foot fetishs Snail destroyer (talk) 15:10, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * How about you give us examples of Content Policy violations rather that continue violating the Code of Conduct with your disruption, hm? "LOOK AT THE WIKI" is not sufficient enough to support your argument. <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,crimson,indigo, #ADD8E6); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">Marxo Grouch (talk) 18:07, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * its a wiki FOR FOOT FETISHS Snail destroyer (talk) 18:43, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't need to talk to Caps Locks, it makes you look like you're screaming. Rather, to assume good faith, I believe that was not the intention. And, the users above have already mentioned the CoC without even a complete analysis..... --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 18:36, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Not suiting personal taste is insufficient evidence for closure. --Raidarr (talk) 22:16, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I saw the content and I can confess that it is really strange. People who like foot (pictures of feet, etc.), but since it's just drawings, there's probably no problem. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 22:20, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * oh but my wiki about killing ladybugs gets declined Snail destroyer (talk) 13:06, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Requests that show an unhealthy obsession with murder that becomes inexcusable with a few word changes are likely to be declined out of an abundance of caution, yes. Based on subsequent behavior there are no regrets. --Raidarr (talk) 13:15, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * tell me whats worse a guy jacking off to FEET or a guy killing ladybugs Snail destroyer (talk) 13:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * So far, you haven't provided a single shred of evidence. Instead, you chose to file a frivilous request for a wiki to be closed without anything to back them up. That's like if an editor requests a CheckUser, and instead of providing good enough evidence, they begin to request the Checkuser to go fishing for accounts where there might not be some credible evidence of misbehavior or sockpuppetry. This clearly can apply to your baseless report you are currently making. You have been told to provide evidence, and nothing was even brought forth here. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:16, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * the proof is in the name take a look at the wiki go to ANY page Snail destroyer (talk) 19:48, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I reiterate my point that you still haven't shown off a single shred of evidence. I mean, showing us a sample of a page would be nice, but it seems like you expect us to do all the legwork for you. That's not how it works. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:05, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * the problem is the wiki itself Snail destroyer (talk) 15:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The real problem is you being disruptive on Miraheze. You went out out of your way to perform vandalism on the target wiki when you didn't get your way here, as well as other contentious edits I have seen reported on Meta and on Discord and other instances such as the user accounts fiasco and the bizarre, unexplained block associated with you that saw your removal from the public test wiki. This has developed into a problem both on Meta and cross-wiki. Consider this a warning in my capacity as a Global Sysop against frivolous reports and other disruptive activities in the time you've been here, not precluding a followup from myself, another global sysop or a Steward regarding these points in finer detail on your talk page. Continuing this path won't be fruitful for long. --Raidarr (talk) 17:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * its a wiki FOR A FETISH Snail destroyer (talk) 19:45, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's not doing you any favors. Show us actual evidence that the wiki violates Content Policy rather than continue to be shouty and dig yourself into a deeper hole. Just because you don't like foot fetishes doesn't mean the wiki should be deleted. <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,crimson,indigo, #ADD8E6); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">Marxo Grouch (talk) 20:55, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * They're also disruptive on some other WMF projects, I've seen them on toolforge doing weird edits too. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 11:27, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm imagining them receiving a block from Meta if this keeps up (or possibly a global lock but I can't imagine that as a certainty). <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,crimson,indigo, #ADD8E6); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">Marxo Grouch (talk) 16:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I’ve been blocked from meta wiki Snail destroyer (talk) 13:54, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Clearly not, as you replied. Was it another account, and if so, which one? --Raidarr (talk) 14:01, 30 January 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

Reopen a wiki closed in error
The Burnout Wiki appears to have been affected by the same bug that closed several other wikis. It says the wiki has been inactive for 60 days, but edits were made on 14 December. I would appreciate if it were reopened by a steward as the only bureaucrat is inactive and unreachable. Burninrubber0 (talk) 05:32, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. It really was a bug that caused this, post-migration. Who reopen wikis are stewards, then you are in the right place. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 05:45, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * this appears to have been ✅ by the bureaucrat's unexpected appearance. --Raidarr (talk) 13:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, as luck would have it, the bureaucrat reappeared and reopened the wiki the same day I made the request. Thank you for looking into this regardless. Burninrubber0 (talk) 15:36, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Delete wiki revisions
Hi! Can stewards delete wiki revisions? I wanted to delete some sent by me, because it is polluting. Thanks. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 01:24, 29 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Are you requesting an Oversight or RevisionDelete of old revisions of yours? For the sake of transparency, I would oppose this as this could lead to an incomplete portrait of a situation in some cases. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:41, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I want to avoid this especially to remove pollution, and I will list it here, the wiki requests to delete, in case a steward answers me. That is, I'm not requesting oversight, but RevisionDelete (delete wiki requests). Also, you could explain "portrait of a situation in some cases". --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 03:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I was unsure of what you were requesting but I thought you meant deletion of wiki revisions. If deletions of these were allowed, that would cause gaps of information that the public could see which would render the public an incomplete picture into some situations. But again, for the sake of transparency, I don't get why you want wiki requests to be changed in visibility. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:17, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Things that are just tarnishing my image, that is, old stuff, from the time I was a newbie. These things tend to get you into trouble in the future, making it impossible to obtain some community opinions (in the honestly format), which, you can easily cite this, in the time when my knowledge was relatively limited. But compared to today, it is very different. That's the worst thing to take. Since I already clarified the reason for you, could you explain "gaps" to me, something like that? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 03:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Unless they are particularly severe, there is no reason for Steward interference in old revisions. If the mistakes are pertinent to cite they should not be removed, and if they are not then they should be rightfully considered as no more than water under the bridge. --Raidarr (talk) 09:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger Which wiki, and what is the reason? Oversight, or revision deletion? If the former and if it's for privacy-related reasons, please instead DM a Steward on IRC, Discord, or e-mail at . If the latter, and it's your wiki, you can do this yourself. If it's not your wiki, please state the reason for revision deletion and a Steward or Global Sysop can consider the request. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:56, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No, no, it's not privacy issues, Doug. I'm just asking you to delete wiki revisions, which I'm going to list now, just for having a bad image:


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 * I would like if you to delete all these wiki requests listed above as they are too complex and repetitive. Thanks. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 18:53, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I would be very grateful if you would do that for me . I really need this. If you don't, I'd like to know why. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:13, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's a CreateWiki request visibility change. Wiki creators, actually, can hide the visibility, but given the concerns expressed by Agent Isai above and your rationale, I'm inclined to say ❌. Dmehus (talk) 00:29, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * So I have to ask a wiki creator on CN? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:31, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, no, since two, and now three (with me), wiki creators have declined the visibility change, I'd say you should seek community consensus to hide those wiki requests, or obtain consensus from a plurality of wiki creators. Alternatively, articulate a clear need other than to "protect your image." :) Dmehus (talk) 00:35, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Then let. But I don't want it to harm me in the future. This can slow down my volunteer service, I wanted you to understand that. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:39, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't see how it would. I would've approved all, or most, of your wiki requests. So from my perspective, I see sufficient Content Policy understanding in you. Hiding them, though, would not be transparent, but there just isn't a need either. Dmehus (talk) 00:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, it shouldn't affect your volunteering. We've all made mistakes, myself included and I know Dmehus too but that doesn't discourage us. Just put that behind you and focus on the future. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 00:42, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , I see sufficient Content Policy understanding in you. Well I hope so, because Raidarr has been coaching me lately on this. If I requested a Wiki creator today it would be a hat collection, I don't want that, I like contributing to Miraheze, not earning rights, that's why I ask you to take down my patroller to show people that I don't edit for rights . And, would my requests be quoted, I hope not, as in the beginning I was limited. That's why I'm planning to request only in July. Even so, I appreciate your reply and I would appreciate it if you could answer me. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger  ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:48, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Excellent, and thank you to Raidarr for taking this on, as I was hoping he or Agent Isai would do this. I wouldn't say you'd need to wait until July, but would recommend you request only where you will be active and where your mentor thinks you're ready. Dmehus (talk) 00:52, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, as a Meta administrator, your request is ✅. Dmehus (talk) 00:55, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply and the animation! but would recommend you request only where you will be active In fact, I am active every day and would prefer someone to do it for me in two months, as I don't want to give the impression that I'm collecting hats. I hope to contribute but don't want to just earn rights and I just realized that you've autopatrolled me! :) --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 01:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, because your edits, generally speaking, do not need patrolling. I'd caution you on replying to requests where you have no capacity to act (i.e., actions requiring a steward, Meta administrator, Global Sysop, etc.), and if just clerking noticeboards, do ensure you do so when stewards are not recently active. :) Dmehus (talk) 01:27, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for answering. I've been doing this for quite some time, since September actually, although my account has been registered since October 2020. I even help users in this technical area (infobox, CSS, wiki, extension, MediaWiki in general) including a user who adopted a wiki and I made a local election for it (it's been a week), if you want to solve it, including. The only point of rights is being able to contribute more, that's why I don't think it's bad, but worse is the hat collection. That's why, if I don't need to rewuest in July, I do it in two months to flag the Wiki creator to be a good volunteer that helps the project grow. And, I hope to get experience with the staging wiki and other wikis. --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:15, 31 January 2022 (UTC)