User talk:Naleksuh

--8ight (talk) 01:17, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you just message random people who haven't talked to you at all? Naleksuh (talk) 02:11, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a sign of welcoming someone to the community. I see that nobody welcomed you, so I'd thought of being the first. --8ight (talk) 03:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's pretty common on wikis (whose theme, remember, is shared editing). Unsolicited messaging happens obsessively on humor wikis (by way of "being funny").  By the way, I continued our earlier conversation on the article you created.   03:45 18-Jan-2020

Patroller granted - 2020-10-11
Hi, Naleksuh. An administrator on Meta has granted you the  user group permission, which gives you the ability to   recent changes and new pages of other Miraheze users (both registered and anonymous) who are  not either autopatrolled or an administrator. In addition, this group also means that your edits are, so other patrollers or administrators don't have to patrol your edits. You should also be aware that the granting of this user group is at the discretion of Meta administrators, so different administrators will have slightly different criteria for granting. Likewise, just as it is a discretionary appointment, revocation is also at the discretion of Meta administrators and, again, each will have their own criteria for revocation.

In the medium-term, plans are in the works to develop a Meta Patrollers School, likely led by one or two active administrators, that will provide a comprehensive set of guidelines for patrollers and answers to commonly asked questions.

Nevertheless, the following are some of the main guidelines for patrolling. If you follow these guidelines completely, it is unlikely your patroller user group should ever be revoked. In technical terms, even when you find content that requires deletion by an administrator or otherwise requires remediation, undoing, reverting, or rolling back (if you are also a, of course), you should always first mark as patrolled any revisions regardless of whether that content is destined to remain extant to the page or even on Meta entirely.


 * 1) When patrolling talk pages, user talk pages, and noticeboards (in Main and Meta namespaces), you should first check to see whether the user properly signed their posts using four tildes . If they have not, you should add unsigned by substitution, where username is the user's username or IP address and the timestamp is the full timestamp from the diff page. As a best practice, you should also link to the diff in your edit summary, so other administrators and patrollers can easily tie your modification to the original edit being modified. To speed up this process, you can copy the   user script from line 5 of this page into either your (a) common.js or (b) global.js page (the latter applying globally on all Miraheze wikis);
 * 2) When patrolling the noticeboards, ask yourself whether this topic is on the correct noticeboard. If it is not, you should move it to the correct noticeboard, by either undoing the edit or manually removing the topic (if there have been intervening edits), again linking to the original noticeboard of the topic and the new noticeboard where it was moved in your edit summary. On the new noticeboard, you would simply paste in the topic (including the section header), linking to the diff page as in the first step. An example edit summary might be , where  ######  represents the numeric revision ID of the originally posted topic;
 * 3) Also when patrolling the noticeboards and talk pages (including user talk pages), as a best practice, take care to kindly fix any formatting mistakes (such as excess line breaks or incorrect wiki code), per WP:LISTGAP;
 * 4) If something requires deletion, you can add delete to the top of the page in question, taking care to follow the instructions on that template page;
 * 5) If you come across a user who repeatedly makes the same mistakes, send them a guidance note on their user talk page, informing of the steps need to edit and post constructively on Meta; and, finally,
 * 6) If in doubt whether something requires remediation or not, patrol it, and then ask any administrator via their user talk page or at Administrators' noticeboard if any further action needs to be taken.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out. Thank you! --Dmehus (talk) 22:39, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much
For approval on vgswiki!!! Hrvcfr (talk) 03:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem Naleksuh (talk) 03:25, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Comment in RfP
Your comment in RfP, about shortening response times. I have gotten quite a few complaints about that, and yes, I would like to get their wikis to them as fast as possible. BlackWidowMovie0000Editor (talk) 22:39, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Just a Friendly Note
Hi, this is a friendly note to let you know that Wiki Creators can directly create wikis from Special:CreateWiki. You do not need to request them if you do not want any second opinion. I hope this helps. R4356th (talk) 20:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is indeed true, but in practice, it is usually best to use Special:RequestWiki, so a request is created, as Naleksuh did. Special:CreateWiki is ideal for testing purposes, or where the request was made elsewhere (such as on a noticeboard or user talk page of some sort) that can be linked to elsewhere. It can definitely be used, as you rightly note, but yeah, preference is to use Special:RequestWiki if possible and then just approve one's own wiki request. Dmehus (talk) 20:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This is just a friendly suggestion for Naleksuh as doing so will just be helpful for him if he does not think he needs someone else to review his request. :) R4356th (talk) 20:25, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * R4356th Dmehus understood what you were saying, just that CreateWiki directly would not be ideal for that purpose. Naleksuh (talk) 20:27, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Naleksuh, yes, I get that. :) R4356th (talk) 20:33, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Just a Reminder
Hi, this is just a friendly note to remind you that you have not yet de-Wikipediafied Twinkle's welcome message's revision summary. Please fix this when you have some time! Thank you! 10:45, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've just changed this :) Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 10:49, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! 10:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Fancy seeing you here
Hmm, I think I've seen you on another wiki under the same username :) Turtle84375 (talk) 02:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

 * The user who has sent this WikiLove message was globally locked as a multi-wiki sock. TylerMagee (talk) 13:26, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Wiki creations
Hello. You are important with the wiki creations, being nominated by Doug in October 2020, since then, there haven't been many creations until now, after you made a Community wishlist asking not to have automatic messages, and by "not have the same attitude as someone else". While I agree, creators who accept a wiki should mention the content policy especially for the uninformed/newcomers, who don't know a bit about it. You did it yourself today, but avoid it every time (every time you accept a wiki). Thanks (: --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 03:10, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Different methods of handing wiki requests
Hi Naleksuh,

Agent Isai has privately communicated to me his displeasure with your getting upset with him when he declined a wiki request in which you'd left a comment. Having looked at the wiki request in question, it does indeed look as though it was a wiki creator conflict. Noting your note to Arcversin at their user talk page, it's important to remember that wiki creators have different methods of handling requests. I recognize you prefer to leave requests in an "inreview" state, but that doesn't mean your method is more, or less, correct. As I've articulated to fellow wiki creators on this issue in the past, I believe it's reasonable to leave your actioned wiki requests in an "inreview" state for at least a few hours, but to manage the wiki request queue, it's also reasonable to decline them as needing additional information, where no response has been provided by the wiki requestor in that timeframe.

Thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 04:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If Agent Isai has a problem with something I have said, they can comment here. There is no need for meat puppets. Also, Agent Isai was not either of the users I was referencing. I commented on the talk page of the users in question. Also, the requests were not declined, they were approved, which was the main problem. Naleksuh (talk) 04:38, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * While I agree that in the Arcversin case, that wiki request was not a "perfect" wiki approval request, a decline requesting additional information, placing the request on hold for more information, or approving as an okay-ish/good wiki request are all reasonable outcomes. Different wiki creators will have different standards for approval; some are too liberal, others are too conservative. I personally it's better to be more cautious and conservative than too liberal, but it's just one of those situations where different wiki creators are willing to "stick their neck out," so to speak, for certain wiki requests others might not approve. So, in short, I feel both your decision and Arcversin's, which was made about six hours later, were both reasonable outcomes here, and neither is incorrect. Dmehus (talk) 04:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Naleksuh On top of all that, you have to understand the changes to your posts to correctly fix the page structure like in good faith, which I don't see that in you. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 05:00, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I never said you were not doing so in good faith, I simply did not appreciate it nor was there a need for you to change it on my comment on my talk page. My indention level was intentional, and there was no need for you to "fix" something which was not broken. Naleksuh (talk) 05:31, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe YellowFrogger is referring to these established conventions, which provide for indentation to be increase by only one indentation level, and it wasn't clear why your initial reply was two levels deep. Dmehus (talk) 05:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's good that you confirmed that I did this in good faith, but there was no need to revert this way. When you reply to the comment, it should just start with : (colon). The discussion was poorly structured. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 20:30, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

TYSM
thanks for making the wiki i really apprecate it! :] Octahedron foundation (talk) 19:44, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Recommendation
Hello. When you are the first responding to a topic, I recommend that you use only a one colon, not a two colons. More space to comments for the discussion. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:48, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Mspec Wiki approval.
Thank you for approving my wiki idea. I was wondering if you can clarify your comment "The chances of failure to comply with the content policy are higher than normal but still pretty low." I just want to make sure I don't break any rules, so if you could clarify what you meant I'd appreciate it. Thanks and have a nice day. TXJ (talk) 22:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * See Content Policy Naleksuh (talk) 23:10, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * My apologies but that doesn't clarify what you meant at all. I've already read the content policy. Why specifically do you think Mspec Wiki is likelier than normal to breach policy? TXJ (talk) 01:12, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Your wiki seeks to write about real people in a controversial area. That alone doesn't break the content policy but is risky. Just be sure the wiki follows the content policy and you'll be fine. It's already approved, no need to worry about it now. Naleksuh (talk) 01:14, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Minor edits
Hey there, I was reviewing the recent changes and noticed all your edits are marked as minor. Is there any reason as to why this is? Thanks. Agent Isai Talk to me! 21:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Change to the interface-related rights
Hi Naleksuh, a change that will be implemented soon that will require 2FA enabled on your account in order to edit sitewide/other user's JS. For more info, check out Community portal. Thanks. Agent Isai Talk to me! 19:56, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Your usage of Interface Admin rights
On behalf of myself, and a couple of other functionaries, I am officially issuing you a warning based on your recent use of your Interface Admin rights. Actions like reverting a change on Stewards.js could constitute disruptive behavior, reverting a change that was endorsed by a member of that user group simply because you disagree is not proper. If you take issue to a change you should discuss first, especially since the trivial change does not affect yourself, as well it does not affect the majority of users. Continuing to use your Interface Admin rights to “gatekeep” changes from occurring could result in the loss of said rights. Zppix (Meta &#124; talk to me) 14:04, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If you have an issue with the revert, you will need to take it to the talk page, where you'll find the exact same thing you are trying not to see: I"m not vehemently opposed to reinstating the edit, but I don't like the idea of pretending it should have never been reverted, or that "bold, revert, discuss" has become "bold, discuss". Also, you aren't a functionary. Naleksuh (talk) 16:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I’m not a functionary? I am infact a functionary on this wiki as I am a meta sysop. Furthermore, interface pages shouldnt be reverted without discussion first, the only time that would be acceptable is if its a security issue, or it breaks something, especially since you are not a member of said usergroup. Like I said above, if problematic behavior regarding interface admin continues, you could lose the right. Zppix (Meta &#124; talk to me) 19:37, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Functionaries consist of checkusers and oversighters, which on Miraheze means stewards. Sysops are not functionaries, and do not have access to any information that requires NDAs. This may be similar to how you announced that you oversighted an edit when you do not have oversight permissions, because you confused oversight and revision deletion. Failure to understand user groups and how they work is concerning. You have also failed to show any misuse of interface admin permission, so I would advise you to stop both with that and with continued claims to have rights that you do not have, or you yourself may lose groups. Naleksuh (talk) 19:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi. Zppix. Naleksuh. I’m just not interested in this. Threatening revocation of rights based on what, debating semantics? It’s beyond petty. Both of you use your permissions, and for the most part use them responsibly and well. We don’t need any more drama right now. Please, for the sake of everyone on Meta, quit it. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contribs • global • rights) 20:16, 27 June 2022 (UTC)