Requests for Comment/Examknow

Following the release of our findings, we would like to request the Community’s opinion on a range of proposed sanctions. Examknow will also be referred to the Code of Conduct Commission in due course.


 * Signed,
 * RhinosF1
 * Reception123
 * Zppix

Proposal 1

 * The community revokes Examknow’s Wiki Creator right as a consequence of the report.

a) Support

 * 1) as proposed  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) as proposed Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 21:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 3)  as proposed. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 09:24, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposal 2

 * The community endorses the removal of Examknow’s autopatrolled status.

a) Support

 * 1) as proposed  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) as proposed Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 21:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 3)  as proposed. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 09:24, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposal 3

 * The community request Examknow’s IRC Cloak is removed.

a) Support

 * 1) as proposed  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) as proposed Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 21:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * 1)  as proposed. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 09:24, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposal 4

 * The community requests Examknow acts to ensure that he maintains competency when answering community questions.

a) Support

 * 1) as proposed  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) as proposed Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 21:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 3)  as proposed. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 09:24, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposal 5

 * The community requests Examknow improves his conduct.

a) Support

 * 1) as proposed  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) as proposed Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 21:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 3)  as proposed. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 09:24, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposal 6

 * Examknow may only gain any additional rights, defined as anything that must be added via Special:UserRights/Examknow, 3 months after this discussion is closed following a community vote.

a) Support

 * 1) as proposed  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) as proposed Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 21:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 3)  as proposed. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 09:24, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposal 7

 * If inappropriate behaviour continues, The community authorises additional sanctions to be placed without community approval.

a) Support

 * 1) as proposed  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) as proposed Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 21:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

b) Oppose

 * 1)  Even though I signed the main RfC, I think this proposal is quite vague and doesn't really change anything in the matter. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 09:24, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposal 8

 * Examknow may only appeal after 6 months has passed. If an appeal fails, he must wait at least 6 months before trying again.

a) Support

 * 1) as proposed  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:45, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2) as proposed Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 21:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

b) Oppose

 * 1)  6 months is a long period of time for preventing someone to appeal. I think either 3 months would work, or no limits on appeals. Reception123  (talk) ('C' ) 09:24, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

From Spike
I have been aware of Examknow's activities here, but am not sure I noticed when he first arrived. On that basis, I suspected he was very young or not a native English speaker or both, I believed he was wrong to take the initiative to interact with new Miraheze users, and observed that he had such a curt style as might disaffect some of them. I don't know everything he has done here but I have read the report. It makes assertions of widely varying degrees of seriousness. These include:
 * Deciding incorrectly; I plead guilty as well.
 * Being impolitic in discussions; probably me-too again.
 * Having poor coding/MediaWiki skills: Does not warrant discipline.
 * "Hat collecting," which means accumulating permissions solely for the sake of having them and not for the sake of using them constructively. The term has delighted me, but it exists mostly to disparage users for acting too vainly and is not an offense if the hats were not gotten fraudulently and not misused.
 * Portraying himself as a Miraheze authority or go-to person that he does not merit. This is disruptive and annoying.
 * Acting with overt bad faith when Miraheze executives interrogated him. This is a banning offense.
 * Causing actual harm to Miraheze? This is even worse, but I don't know enough to agree he did so.

My conclusions:
 * 1) Proposal 7 "authorises additional sanctions to be placed without community approval." In fact, I am willing that the current round of sanctions be placed without community approval.
 * 2) At least he should be broken down to ; at most he should be banned from Meta for a time, which as far as I know is the only place he has been disruptive.  If Examknow has a wiki, he might be sent to it, to learn what he doesn't know about coding, though it probably won't teach him the interpersonal skills he needs.  I don't see cause for a global ban.
 * 3) He is one of a stream of anonymous users from around the world, and I am unenthusiastic about making requests that he improve his behavior, and about the offer of a gradual program to rehabilitate him (or to let us pat ourselves on the back for how gradual we are). The priority goal is to end the disruption of Meta and Miraheze, and this includes the mere wasting of the executives' time.   03:00 30-Oct-2019
 * Hi, Regarding thé potentially bringing harm to Miraheze, I do believe there is a a high chance that we would have, with some users, better reputations or more users if he hadn’t have made some mistakes that he’s made. I agree with you that just not having good skills doesn’t warrant discipline but when you don’t know your limit and then apply for things that require more knowledge or represent yourself to have those skills, it does. Even know you agree with placing sanction without authorisation, we’d appreciate if you’d support the proposals explicitly in the support sections so whoever closes this is clear on who’s supporting what. Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  04:13, 30 October 2019 (UTC)