User talk:DarkMatterMan4500

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Hi Zackary, and thanks for approving my wiki request recently. About "I am currently learning how to code in programming in hopes of getting a job in video game design," I sure hope that's going well for you? I've done a bit of coding in my time but, frankly, I'm rusty as hell these days. Serves me right for starting-out in Cobol, I guess. But count on me for moral support, at least, haha. All the best, -J CptRabid (talk) 16:45, 26 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Ehhh, it's no problem at all. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You got a mention on the Main Page, too - long may it last. Hey, is there a top ten "things you should do or, at least, think about doing" when your wiki has been created?  Or, do you yourself have a top five or - hell, I'm desperate - a top three? Cheers, -J CptRabid (talk) 17:41, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Getting in touch one last time... for now...? We'll see...
Hi, DarkMatterMan4500. It's me, FreezingTNT. I apologize for my aggressive behavior and threat to put Cuties onto the Greatest Movies Wiki. As I feel like you guys won't change your mind in regards to your "reception" and "popular opinions/general consensus" policies, and after a while of discussion with, I have made my decision to create my own duology of wikis: the Wikis for Media of Good and Bad. They'll be identical to the Reception Wikis/QP, and I'm even considering pasting many specific articles from the wikis onto both of my wikis — however, I feel like I need the whole QP moderation team's permission or approval in order to move forward in the direction I just told you I wanted to go.

Could you contact the other mods about this? To see if they would approve of me pasting exact articles from QP?

FreezingTNT (talk) 18:53, 27 July 2021 (UTC)


 * As an obligatory notice, wikis that are near full duplicates of other Miraheze wikis with only an odd 5 to 15 percent difference in content may be shut down. That level of replication may not fly at a Miraheze Meta level. Raidarr (talk) 19:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

To be fair, there were the Outcast Wikis (although those were shut down for different, unrelated reasons).

EDIT: Also, it wouldn't be an exact copy of one individual wiki, each of the two wikis would paste in articles from different, separate QP wikis while pasting in my own articles from time to time. And given that articles do tend to be re-worked or improved... who knows (when it comes to the upcoming pasted QP articles)?

FreezingTNT (talk) 19:06, 27 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Outcast was Outcast for good reason. I'll make a second notice after giving more thought to your approach; rather than try to split things into equidistant good or bad, I would think someone learning from QP's mistakes will avoid one of the common sources of drama and simply present 'the facts' of what is good or bad on one wiki, in one article so you can deflect people who argue over it being ultimately good or ultimately bad, especially when things like priorities, context and relevance are thrown into a heated discussion. Now, if you were to include a stronger content policy as far as what is truly good or bad, I may personally be tempted to contribute based on clear metrics. The lack of clearly defined ones is one of several issues I take with QP wikis, and I figure a wise owner would try to resolve the administrative issues rather than duplicate them. Further discussion I can take to the accepted MediaofGood platform as compared to furthering the topic on this page. --Raidarr (talk) 21:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You already made your point multiple times, but I chose to not comment on it until you brought it here. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:53, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

@Raidarr To clarify; it would be two wikis — Wiki for Media of Good would be for good media, and Wiki for Media of Bad would be for bad media. They would be sister wikis of each other, if you know what I mean. Regarding your second sentence; in this context, "good" would mean... well, it has a lot of positives (in that they usually overwhelm the flaws, yadda yadda), and on the other hand "bad" would mean extremely flawed, not necessarily a piece of shit or a flaming dumpster fire or whatever.

"Now, if you were to include a stronger content policy as far as what is truly good or bad" There are always things that usually resonate with or relate to or excite audiences, hence the "positives" — on the other hand, there are things and "imperfections" that usually tend to... irritate audiences, such as plot holes, inconsistencies, contrivances, blatant rehashing of previous stories, unlikable or annoying characters, low-quality visuals, unfitting music, etc., hence the "negatives".

So, it would lean on reception, sort of... but not necessarily for movies/video games/shows/whatever's individually, more for how the audience responds to such things such as positives or negatives. Humans are typically creatures that are more likely to want things to be perfect, hence why we tend to get upset about things that aren't exactly perfect such as my examples from above — they are also typically creatures that are more likely to relate to things such as relatable or complex characters or beautiful-looking visuals or good acting or anything else that they find entertaining, yadda yadda.

So basically, imagine one of those YouTube or critic reviews you would typically find on the Internet — they're pointing out positives that typical audiences would relate to or negatives that would hurt typical audiences' enjoyment. They're recommending what to check out or not to check out. This is what I intend to do, that the Reception Wikis/QP failed to do — point out things based on what actually happens in the movie (and not reception or popular opinion for the media individually), things that humans would be more likely to see as "perfections" and/or "imperfections". Yeah, you get the point.

EDIT: Also, I'll try to make sure individual pointers never misinterpret what actually happens in the media as much as I can.

"I figure a wise owner would try to resolve the administrative issues rather than duplicate them." I figure I may need others to serve as consultants...

@DarkMatterMan4500 "Bring it here?" What do you mean by the "it"? ',:(

FreezingTNT (talk) 00:06, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Did I just get kicked off of the QP Discord server? All I was trying to do was let the others know I was splitting off from them (as in making my own wikis), and apologizing for the Cuties incident.

FreezingTNT (talk) 17:59, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi many thanks for activating my wiki really appreciated. Admiral Marcus (talk) 07:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)