Community noticeboard

Vote
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have a question for you: should we have a wiki on here like the Wiki Gazetteer on FANDOM? Put your vote in the headings below! And remember to sign your posts with ~. Tali64³ (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes

 * 1) Why not? This would not be a bad idea for someone looking for a specific wiki. --Furricane (talk) 21:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) per  InspecterAbdel (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I strongly support this because we can find more specific wikis.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 21:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) I'm not opposed to this idea, in theory, and I do think that we need to rethink Gazetteer of wikis given that we have ~3,800 current wikis (which is too large for a single page). My main concern, which I expressed in declining the wiki request, was that this may suffer from lack of maintenance and timely updates. As well, by siphoning it away from Meta, we now have yet another wiki we have to somehow promote, so that sort of defeats the purpose of a gazetteer of wikis designed to promote customers' public wikis, doesn't it? Secondarily, I honestly think a better way to go about this is to add additional functionality and data output to the automated list, Special:WikiDiscover. That said, it's a good-faith idea, in theory and if well-maintained, so that is why I am expressing some support, albeit weak. Dmehus (talk) 23:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 5) I think this will help in finding wikis. Admittedly, there was once a list on Wikia, but we've dropped it. Onmp314 (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There are still two: the Wiki Wiki and the Wiki Gazetteer. Tali64³ (talk) 22:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

No

 * 1)  I don't see the need for an entire wiki like this. We already have a page here on meta, Gazetteer of wikis. And in all honesty, a page on meta will most likely be given more notice than another external wiki that some will never visit. As such I am opposing this idea. While a good thought I don't see the need for it. I mean if you want it, go for you, but I don't think it should be a community wiki at all.  15:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * There are wikis currently on Miraheze, too big to list on one page. An administrator could put a link to it on the main page. Tali64³ (talk) 16:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * We also have Special:WikiDiscover which lists every wiki on Miraheze. 14:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  if there were a lot of people to add entries for wikis with short descriptions that would work for me but right now I think that the Meta gazeteer is enough and is helpful. DeeM28 (talk) 07:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) A wiki for this is unnecessary, Gazetteer of wikis on Meta works fine. If there was a way to automate it with Special:WikiDiscover, I might rethink it, but otherwise this would likely get really outdated long-term. K599 (talk) 20:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) and I would like to note, wiki creations are at the sole discretion of wiki creators and global policy, and I view this as a way to circumvent a decline of mine. Thus, I also recommend a closure of this as not done. Zppix (Meta &#124; CVT Member &#124; talk to me) 05:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
I think it's a fair enough idea but there are many ways to approach it and would need lots of maintenance and would probably create some form of conflict -Bayugoon (talk) 19:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

 * 1) I'm currently been slowly working on a similar idea over the past month or two just documenting wikis: the Wikiverse. dibbydib 23:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) As a Miraheze wiki creator, when this wiki truly passes through us for approval (I have recently accidentally approved this wiki sent in by, which due to the ongoing discussion and the incorrect subdomain is currently pending steward review for deletion), it is important for us to know when to approve the wiki and who will be creating it. Therefore, who will be the founding Bureaucrat of the wiki if it passes community discussion?  14:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * I would be the founder. Tali64³ (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * When having community discussions like these, who will be the founder is among what should be discussed. I believe who should be the founder should be among what is discussed here. Thanks! 02:10, 15 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 1) Relisting for another couple of weeks. Dmehus (talk) 05:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Relisting for another several weeks. Dmehus (talk) 11:42, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

A community Developers wiki
I have a proposition for the Miraheze community. For a while now I have been debating whether or not to create a developers wiki for Miraheze. Unlike the template wiki, this wiki will include CSS and JS scripts that anyone can import using, it will allow anyone who wants it to use scripts built by the community in their own wikis and/or in their own personal global or local JavaScript or CSS files. After consulting with on Discord, I decided to get the communities feedback and/or support on this idea, therefore what does the Miraheze community think of this idea? 22:53, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Yeah, though I don't think it's required to have a community discussion in this case, since it's going to be a community wiki for shared CSS and JavaScript files, among other things potentially, I thought it would be a good practice to have the discussion, especially if it proposes to use the name "Miraheze." Plus, I think it would be helpful for the community to (a) define the initial scope and purpose and (b) establish the founding bureaucrats for the wiki. From there, the local community can help to establish its local policies and further refine its purpose. In general terms, I support this as a community wiki as I think it is sufficiently different than the Template and Miraheze Bots + Tools wikis. I also think it could be useful at reducing the page load times of community-imported and -maintained user scripts, as opposed to always loading them from English Wikipedia and other wikis. Dmehus (talk) 23:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, some of that is part of my initial thoughts for the reasoning of the wiki. As for using the name Miraheze in it, I think it should be called Miraheze Developers Wiki or something similar. As for bureaucrats of the wiki, any candidate recommendations? And I think a community discussion for this is a good idea. It gives the community a way to give input, and their own unique ideas in it as well. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * As proposer I support this, but also because I know JS and CSS pretty well, and would love to have a wiki like this for the Miraheze community. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * This is a great idea for a new wiki. I think that by doing this, lots of new coding things could be enabled, including possibly global modules and gadgets. Great suggestion. I also have no concerns for this proposal. --Furricane (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, I do believe that a wiki like this could be greatly beneficial in the long run, or at least I hope it can be. 23:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) ］ |


 * I support this idea because not everyone can do custom CSS and (or) custom JS. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea for having a central place to import JS and CSS. K599 (talk) 20:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * per my comments above. Dmehus (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Good. Waldo (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * would be a nice place to ask questions with in that area Bayugoon (talk) 19:50, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Potential rename and/or expanded scope of Dev Wiki
asked me a few days, or perhaps a week, ago if I had posted in this discussion thread about the potential renaming and expanded scope for Dev Wiki yet. Other tasks took priority, but seeing as this thread was due to be archived in the next day or so, I wanted to get this done. So, I'm going to ping those that participated above and those who participated in the discussion on potential name ideas/expanded scope on Discord.

So, the question is...given that the  subdomain implies broader usage by and for developers beyond just CSS and JavaScript scripts,  and I (did I forget anyone, ?) basically toyed around with a number of potential new names and subdomains, the top three of which is identified below:


 * 1) Retain   and expand the scope, or allow the community, via a future community noticeboard discussion to expand the scope at some point in the future;
 * 2) Rename subdomain to , which would be roughly in line with the current purpose and scope, but open to possibilities later (again, the community would retain the right modify the scope via a community noticeboard discussion); or,
 * 3) Rename subdomain to , with a narrow scope; limits us in the future, but entirely accurate; it's not too bad, as we could easily create a separate dev later, though we should reserve that subdomain in the blacklist)

Since didn't participate in the Discord discussion and since this doesn't require any advanced rights to close, I nominate him to assess the consensus and close this discussion in a week or two. --Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of RhinosF1 as closer
, please indicate if you would be willing to close this discussion after 1-2 weeks (depending on the weather-related impacts to U.S. eastern seaboard residents).

Additionally, can I get a seconder to second this nomination? (Thought we could probably safely skip a full vote on nominating an uninvolved closer.)


 * Accepted:  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominated closer)
 * Moved: Dmehus (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC) (as nominator)
 * Seconded: 02:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks. Dmehus (talk) 13:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Procedural comment: This has been relisted for another two weeks, plus the duration set by the hidden wikicomment at the end of this thread. Dmehus (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Voting and Vote Tabulation Instructions
You are encouraged to express first and second choices in your !vote. Please do so by indicating, in your !vote for each proposal, whether it is your first or second choice. If no proposal achieves more than 50% of the valid !votes cast, the proposal with the least number of first choice !votes will be dropped, and those users' second choices will then be allocated accordingly, and the results retabulated in a second count.

Support

 * 1)   02:41, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 2)  as first choice, since the community remains overall authority over this wiki in terms of its   removal (as may be required) and in terms of redefining, or broadening, its scope. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  I think there is no need to rename. Onmp314 (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  Looks nice, and is easy to understand. K599 (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I like this idea as well, but it feels like it has other non-computer science-related use cases (i.e., for an archival- or museum-type wiki). Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain
This is arguably kind of useless, in this case, since the !votes won't be counted, but I'll nonetheless include it.
 * 1)  I also liked 's idea, as it is the most specific and clearly defines this wiki's current purpose, but, at the same time, it really does restrict a future broadening of this wiki's scope to include a broader array of wiki developer resources, for which the community retains the absolute authority to redefine this wiki's purpose via community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

A new wiki for the website's community
The Miraheze Community Wiki is a wiki for the community so people can get to know each other and welcome each other. I know Meta does that, but I think we need a wiki for that stuff.

Support

 * 1) I think we need a wiki for this kind of thing InspecterAbdel (talk) 22:44, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) but not per any of the above or below, but because community noticeboard has become a catch-all for technical support questions, community discussions, and really anything. The organization is weak, and we could use a community wiki. I have no objections to it, but the main reason for my oppose  weak support here is because the purpose is somewhat vague and unclear. I appreciate  bringing this for a community discussion, though, and, since this wiki was simultaneously submitted for approval and created already, I think we should probably shift this wiki towards defining a clear purpose and terms of reference for its existence and the parameters by which the local   can be removed (via Community noticeboard) here on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)  Amended. Moved from weak oppose to weak support Dmehus (talk) 15:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I think we should have one since fandom has one. Plus it's subdomain is valuable too. AppleCrunchy (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) I really like to have a community wiki for new users to gather, although we have a Community noticeboard.  CircleyDoesExtracter  ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud ) 17:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) . No, we don't need such a wiki.  This page ("community noticeboard") is exactly for this kind of thing.  I don't want to have to check both this page and a dedicated wiki to find out what is happening on the wiki farm, nor learn how such a wiki is organized.   04:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Spike. There is already not enough engagement and usage on Meta, so another wiki is really not what we need. We should focus on Meta. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) . We DO NOT need a community wiki is needed at this time. We already have this page, the community noticeboard, and Requests for Permissions, requests for global rights and requests for stewardship. It seems that it would serve the same service as as most of this meta wiki, and I just see no possible usage for this. I also agree with the comments that has made about having to go back and forth between meta and a community wiki. Sorry, it is just not going to work. --Furricane (talk) 15:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping you'll consider amending your !vote, per my comments above, as I really don't think 's goal was for this wiki to replace Meta. The problem with this request is that (a) the wiki shouldn't have been created without a community discussion (not, technically, a requirement, as far as I'm aware, but good practice) and (b) it should've had a clearer purpose, scope, and defined parameters, as we are doing with Dev Wiki and have done with Template Wiki and Miraheze Commons in the past. No community proposals or discussions, or even drafts of such proposals, would've occurred on this wiki. Rather, as I saw it (though vague and unclear), this wiki was meant to be a user collaboration and social connection wiki that would've actually sought to deepen community participation. Participation in this community wiki would've been completely voluntary and not participating would not have meant the user would "miss out" on important community discussions, as I don't think that was ever the intent behind 's good-faith proposal. Dmehus (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  Not needed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 06:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  I do not think another wiki is necessary for the community because for me Meta is the wiki for the community. DeeM28 (talk) 07:30, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  This is unnecessary, Meta already serves essentially the same purpose, and there's not really enough of that kind of "community" activity to need a separate wiki. K599 (talk) 20:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  After reading the first two oppose votes I agree with those users.  We should try to engage the community on Meta and we can be doing community oriented activities here.  Тишина (talk) 17:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 5)  I agree that the noticeboard is enough and if there was a whole wiki about the community it would be under used and it would require moving around instead of just looking at this one page Bayugoon (talk) 19:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Comments

 * I think the subject is not whether we need a community wiki or not, as we already have a community-centric wiki, but whether we need a miraheze-sanctioned community wiki.I think CN is sufficient, but it seems unusual for a topic to be set up for communication purposes, so someone may need to give an example. I found an image on ja.wiktionary.org showing the stroke order of my name, so it might be a good idea to post it, but it takes courage to be the first one. --松•Matsu (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 02:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 01:36, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Relist to delay archiving. I will be posting an updated proposal on next steps in the next several days. Dmehus (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Infobox
I have problems using the infobox template, I have followed the instructions only to get the infobox and a displaying link saying Label:Template Other that does not go away. What should I do? Marcdmc (talk) 11:36, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Miraheze, and to Meta. Thank you also for signing your posts on the noticeboards with four tildes . You're off to a great start. Please note that I have just procedurally moved your question from stewards' noticeboard to community noticeboard, where it is now in scope. Someone should be able to answer your question shortly. Dmehus (talk) 13:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Notification of Directors' Meeting, October 23 2020
Good afternoon everyone,

This is a late notification, however, attached is the agenda for the next Directors' meeting taking place tonight at 20:00 UTC. Late suggestions for discussion at the meeting are accepted until an hour before the meeting. Please either suggest them here or email owen@undefinedmiraheze.org. Agenda is at. Owen (talk) 12:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * 1. Why is it exclusively available in PDF? That is certainly not the wiki way of running things. If you need PDF for compliance stuff, that's fine, but please consider using the wikitext version for posting on wiki. That's not that hard. Maybe takes few more minutes, but that's negligible. Especially when Miraheze don't have PDF file preview like Wikimedia Commons.
 * 2. Also, please indicate the license of the file, otherwise I will assume it follows the license of the Wiki, which is at this time CC BY SA 4.0 Intl. Thank you. &mdash; revi  17:57, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox country for Dream Fiction Wiki
I couldn't make it myself, can someone help me recreate the country infobox of Dream Fiction Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlegSlaviraheze (talk • contribs) 12:16, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * First, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) . If you find yourself frequently forgetting to sign your posts with four tildes, you can type the topic title for your noticeboard topic and click "add topic," instead of using "edit source," and a preloaded message template including the tildes will be included for you. Regarding setting up infoboxes, there are several types of infoboxes, some complicated ones like English Wikipedia has that have parameters configured for WikiBase, some portable infoboxes like Fandom has, and some basic ones that are just wikitables, right-aligned to the page, and which serve most peoples' needs. For the more complicated needs, you should see this FAQ question. For the portable ones like Fandom has, you should see this extension page, and enable the extension in this ManageWiki page on your wiki. For the most basic infoboxes that should serve most wikis' needs, you should really see 's helpful tutorial. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 12:28, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Renaming and what it's about?
Hello, I would like to request a name change on my crime wiki and it can be about crime and anything. Thank you. Hrvcfr (talk) 18:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC) Hrvcfr (talk) 18:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * While you can rename your wiki in Special:ManageWiki on your wiki, I would strongly advise broadening your crime-focused wiki to include something as broad as anything, as that becomes an unclear and vague wiki description per Content Policy. As well, it sort of feels like a back door way to reposition your existing wiki while you're currently topic banned from requesting wikis on Meta. Dmehus (talk) 19:40, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I successfully changed the name. And will change it on Gazetteer. Hrvcfr (talk) 19:51, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's great. The name change is fine, but I just hope you've not modified your wiki's purpose to be about crime or anything, as that is far too vague and would not be approved by a wiki creator. Wikis' approval and creation are subject to the terms of reference (i.e., their stated purpose and scope) on which they were approved. A wiki operating entirely different from its stated approval could run into issues down the road and potentially face a range of remediation actions by a steward. Dmehus (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Fair use policy
I have a wiki about politics and I want to have articles about political parties. Wikipedia justifies uploading the logos/icons of political parties based on fair use. Could I apply the same reasoning?

Example: Non-free media information and use rationale – non-free logo for Socialist Party (France) Description This is the logo for Socialist Party (France).

Source http://www.parti-socialiste.fr/

Article Socialist Party (France)

Portion used The entire logo is used to convey the meaning intended and avoid tarnishing or misrepresenting the intended image.

Low resolution? This is an SVG vector image of a registered trademark or a copyright-protected logo, seal or computer icon. This image should not be rendered any larger than is required for the purposes of identification and/or critical commentary. The default rendering of this image is of a size and resolution sufficient to maintain the quality intended by the company or organization, without being unnecessarily high resolution.

Purpose of use The image is used to identify the organization Socialist Party (France), a subject of public interest. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the organization, assure the readers that they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the organization, and illustrate the organization's intended branding message in a way that words alone could not convey.

Replaceable? Because it is a non-free logo, there is almost certainly no free representation. Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, would tarnish or misrepresent its image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary.

Other information Use of the logo in the article complies with Wikipedia non-free content policy, logo guidelines, and fair use under United States copyright law as described above. Godless Raven (talk) 11:32, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * LGTM&mdash;perfect, or nearly perfect, in fact. I would just add a couple points, namely that many logos may not be eligible for copyright protections if they are too simplistic, though I'm not certain under which countries' copyright law that criterion applies. Also, many, or most, political parties already license their logos to media organizations and other research-based uses (of which your wiki would be the latter) to use their logos per their logo use policies. In terms of a fair use policy, this looks fine to me. Dmehus (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

What are the boundaries for NSFW content?
Say, if I was to make a wiki that may contain NSFW content (e.g., nudity (drawing or not), sexual content, explicit language, inappropriate writing, etc.), what are the stuff that is allowed or not allowed? What are the limits? Thank u, next, Eiji (talk) 16:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the question. With regard to that type of NSFW content (nudity, sexual content, and explicit language), it's all acceptable, provided it's legal in the United Kingdom, and there are no limits, though we do strongly recommend you put in place NSFW content advisories on your main page, community portal, and main policy pages. With regard to "inappropriate writing," that's vague and it's hard to say. As long as it's permitted by Content Policy and you don't violate the Code of Conduct directing it towards users, you should be fine. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 20:00, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * See also Talk:Terms of Use#About disturbing content, but it's 2018 content so things might be different now. &mdash; revi  20:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Notably, jurisdictions are now UK. &mdash; revi  20:02, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So if I post a rule 34 drawing (fully nude) on this website, as long as I add a warning for NSFW content, it's still acceptable? Thank u, next, Eiji (talk) 18:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's perfectly acceptable. Dmehus (talk) 18:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Thank u, next, Eiji (talk) 19:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

What happened to the Navboxes?
Ever since that MediaWiki update last night, the collapse theatre on navboxes had stopped working - by that I mean the button has disappeared altogether. (Here’s an example: ) Is there a way it can be fixed? - ManiacACS (talk) 06:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, the sidebar and tab color above the pages is now back to the default color. --Trevor807 (talk) 11:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Need help with a script on my wiki
I attempt to do a script to easily report vandals on my new wiki but it does not work. My script i tried to install is from the Runescape wiki, and slightly modified it to match my pages. Can someone help me with the script? (Cannot post the link to my wiki because the ****ing captcha does not load) Wikieditor668 (talk) 11:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * "(Cannot post the link to my wiki because the ****ing captcha does not load)" lol 2A00:7142:4A:B749:D89C:1B40:7BA2:9390 15:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Captchas won't load
"Your edit includes new external links. To protect the wiki against automated spam, we kindly ask you to solve the following CAPTCHA:"

Yeah, but there's literally no captcha whenever I hit submit, this text pops up, but not the captcha.

This website is defective lmao. 2A00:7142:4A:B749:D89C:1B40:7BA2:9390 15:47, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * hello this issue was already resolved it should work now. Cocopuff2018 (talk) 13:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Fix Template Loops
Hey, Can any of you can fix those template loops on Companyball Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Firstly, to your question, template loops are usually one of the more basic template errors to resolve, and are typically caused by a given page or template calling the same template or page at the current page title, or by a template or page that is called by one of the templates or pages transcluded on that page. Hope that helps.
 * Secondly, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) . Dmehus (talk) 13:57, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Already did that, didn't work, Fix this now plz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I already try it and it didn't work for me, Plz fix it now.
 * Link TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk) 14:43, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Please keep in mind we're all volunteers here, and here to help. A member of the community should be able to assist you within the next day or two. For faster service, you can ask specific questions in a calm and friendly manner on Discord, which I would encourage you to join. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems that mh:companyballwiki:Template:T is causing the template loops. The source code of that template seems to be its documentation rather than the actual template, so I'm guessing this was a copy-paste mistake. K599 (talk) 20:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * So how do i fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Putting Infobox on right
Can somebody put the infobox from Companyball Wiki on the right for me? I tried everything but nothing works, so can somebody do this for me? TheAnimeMapper2020 (talk) 00:00, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Should be done. Naleksuh (talk) 00:03, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox Issues
Hello, I have been trying for days now to move an infobox on the right, but I can't do it at all. I want this infobox template on this page https://nsc.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Contest to match the infobox on this page https://msc.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Contest. I have implanted the same code but the box is bigger and also on the left. Can you please help me with this? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CamDaNer (talk • contribs) 13:08, 30 October 2020‎ (UTC)
 * The template calls for an Infobox styling that doesn't exist in your wikis code pages. To test it out, I set up the style used by Wikipedia on my userpage on the wiki and it looks perfect now. Simply copy/paste that code in your Common.css, or Vector.css if you want it exclusive for one skin (each skin has their own special .css page). Hope this helps!-Amelia (talk) 19:01, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Vector tab styling gone after update
Hello! I'm an admin on the My Little Pony wiki, and after the 1.35 update, our vector tab stylings stopped working, as well with some less jarring h2 underlining border stuff, so I wanted to know if anyne else knew what to do? I downloaded the most recent version of Vector and used Notepad++ to look up classes in its files, and I think the issue is the vector tabs got switched to .less format which isn't affected by .css (AFAIK, not a code monkey). I tried creating a Vector.less page and imported it via my own personal .css page, but that didn't work.

Anyone have any solutions? --Amelia (talk) 19:10, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Harry Potter Wiki
Can the people consider opening a wiki for Harry Potter wiki? The fandom site is toxic and people dislike the existing admins. 74.105.199.98 14:56, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 74.105.199.98, thank you for your question, and welcome both to Miraheze and Meta. Indeed, you can create an account, login, and request a wiki describing your wiki's topic and purpose in 1-2 sentences, delineating any scope to it as well and in compliance with Content Policy. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and made a harry potter wiki I will help with it once it gets approved if you wish to be admin and create I would be more then happy to give you it once you make an account I am interested in harry potter as well and look forward to making this wiki thrive and grow Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I personally do not think this was necessary, as you have now preempted a potential new Miraheze user from requesting this wiki. I've procedurally declined it. If they don't request it within two days, you may resubmit the wiki request, and create it yourself. Dmehus (talk) 15:47, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

"Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server: (curl error: 52) Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)"
I recently got this error while writing a page on Awful Movies Wiki. Anyone else got this error today? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IvanTheGreat (talk • contribs) 16:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * This is possibly more than one issue, which I'm currently tracking. However, if you go into your web browser's cookies and delete all cookies for, the issue will resolve itself. If the issue continuously keeps reoccurring more than once every month or so, then do re-report this issue on Phabricator. As I say, though, near-term, clearing your cookies should resolve this.
 * Also, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .), as opposed to manually typing your signature as that doesn't work for the bot. Dmehus (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed, thank you. IvanTheGreat (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Great to hear. ✅. Dmehus (talk) 16:29, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

EasyTimeline 1.90
Hi, I would like to either propose or ask how to add EasyTimeline 1.90 to a wiki. I am wishing to add it to a wiki that I am an administrator in. I though am not very familiar with Miraheze software and how to add that piece of software to the wiki I am in. If it is not able to be added then I would suggest that it would be added. Summi Imperatoris (talk) 17:22, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your question, and welcome to Meta. It looks like this extension isn't available in Special:ManageWiki/extensions; however, you can suggest it on Phabricator. Login with your Miraheze/MediaWiki login, then use the "feature request" task form. All non-Wikimedia extensions will undergo a security review, mainly to ensure there is no problematic code, possibility of SQL injections, and ensure the extensions are adequately maintained. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 17:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus Thank you! I had no idea that that part had existed to be able to request such. The reason I asked is because I am moving some pages from a wiki that does use EasyTimeline 1.90 and so it glitched out. Summi Imperatoris (talk) 17:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Sounds reasonable. Be sure to include that in your request rationale in your Phabricator request. Also, note that you may find the ping template easier than using the @ and a standard wikilink. Dmehus (talk) 17:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Summi Imperatoris EasyTimeline actually is available in Special:ManageWiki/extensions, it's just labelled as "Timeline". K599 (talk) 19:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

(Again) Cite feature under visual editor
I have raised this question before, but I got no solution. I have added a visual editor and citoid extensions, but when I try the "cite feature" I do not know how to enable other formats aside from "basic". I would like a "books" and "journals" templates, or better yet, a system like en:Wikipedia where I just throw a link around and it tries to automatically fill and matches it to the appropriate template. I have copied all the modules and templates I could think of from en wiki, but I am unable to copy this one:. When I save that one I get Error: Lua error at line 2: unexpected symbol near '/'. I seriously want to use my wiki more frequently, but not being able to solve this wards me off. MaGoV (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC) MaGoV (talk) 14:45, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok I think I solved it, I had to use Special:Import instead. I now uploaded all modules and templates using that but still cite button does not show anything else aside from "Basic".