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How to change mobile editor font?
Hello, I need help with something. How do I change the mobile editor font to Courier (just like Wikipedia)?
 * I think you can do it by editing MediaWiki:Mobile.css.--開拓者 (talk) 12:02, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Visual Editor
How can i enable visual editor on my wiki? AleksanderTv (talk)
 * Check this page. Register on Phabricator, and fill in the form. Then someone (I think one of the sysadmins) will enable the feature for you.--開拓者 (talk) 11:41, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Your comments here have been helpful! Someone should give you  .   15:37 10-Jun-2018

Are VPN and hosting IPs against No open proxies policy?
If so, I have some lists of IPs that should be soft blocked globally. Just for help.-- 開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs) 11:00, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
 * https://www.vpnhub.me/ - this one lists only top 2000 IPs. You need to check out all countries in order to block them all (ex: this page for Japanese IPs. The list of countries is shown here)
 * http://www.vpngate.net/en/ - IPs listed as nodes of VPN Gate. Usually they list only IPs currently online, so I guess admins should check it out frequently.

Create wiki with existing database
Hello, is it possible to create a wiki here with an existing database? The database is here, and the name I would like to have for the wiki is "wkup". Please let me know if you need something else. Thanks a lot!--Micru (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, if your database is in a format compatible with MediaWiki, you can first request a wiki and import (or ask to import, on Phabricator) your data after the wiki is created. This page might also be useful. If it's not, I'm not sure.-- 開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs) 14:35, 13 June 2018 (UTC)(corrected expression)-- 開拓者  (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs) 14:54, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for you answer. I will request the wiki first, as you suggested.--Micru (talk) 14:48, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * My pleasure ;) -- 開拓者 (The Pioneer) (talk/contribs) 14:54, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved from Administrators' Noticeboard as this is the appropriate place for such requests. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 18:28, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Problems with Template Formatting on Wiki
My community and I have been working on creating this comprehensive wiki for our group. However, we have been having difficulties with properly formatted templates that react with our text in a visually pleasing way.

An example of one of our pages: 

What we are trying to emulate: 

At the top of the page, we have a template which should be on the right-most side of the page, with text blocked to the right, like most wiki templates. We have gone over the code and cannot figure any possible reason why it shouldn't work. We did copy over the coding from another wiki site (which also utilizes Miraheze) but their was no change and every template as this rather unappealing appearance to it.

If someone could help us to figure out this issue, we would be most appreciative.
 * Hi. I added  to your template, and now it works fine :) -- 12:58, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Delete my wiki
I want to delete my wiki.How can I delete my wiki?--プログラマリオ (talk) 11:23, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You can close your wiki by checking "closed" at Special:ManageWiki. For actual deletion, make it inactive for a while (at least 180 days), and it will be completely deleted by a sysadmin automatically (check out this page for further information).--開拓者 (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Your wiki can be deleted per request. Please make a request on Phabricator. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 13:31, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much.--プログラマリオ (talk) 08:59, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Change logo & favicon
So how do I change the logo and the favicon? Which size should the logo have? Can it be rectangular or must it be square? --Micru (talk) 16:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The logo can be any shape, the size limit is 135x135px however. Both can be changed now by going to Special Pages, under Wiki Management (click Manage a wiki) MZD (talk) 22:23, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Extension Translate
Hello, in my wiki I have activated the extension Translate, as a bureaucrat and administrator, I do not have the option of translating a page, nor does he appear to add me as a translation admin GOTILON - Talk  - Contributions  23:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * In order for a page to be translated, the page first has to be prepared and marked for translation. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_example for help. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 16:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks :3 GOTILON - Talk  - Contributions  23:09, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

How to handle interwiki requests
So, I have seen some interwiki requests handled by adding the requested prefixes to the interwiki table on the local wiki. When I handled a interwiki Request here for the first time, after I did it in the same manner, told me that no, it should be added by a meta sysop to the Global, (Meta) interwiki table. I would like this to be clarified as to how it should be done. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 20:20, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Reasonable requests should be handled globally. Unreasonable global requests should be local. Things like language codes should be local or changes to existing ones because they conflict with a global prefix. It's discretion but global is preferred unless unreasonable. John (talk) 20:24, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I see no reason for prefixes to be global when they were only requested for specific wikis. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 20:28, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Global good. On the same argument I see no reason for user pages to be global when they're made on one wiki :) John (talk) 20:29, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Request for wiki creator for 開拓者
Hi, and I'd like to ask for the wiki creator permission. I've read the guide and translated it into Japanese (my native language), and I understand what I should do. I should also note that I'm familiar with Japanese wikis (as a Japanese native) and I'm able to check requests made by Japanese users better than non-Japanese users, which have been increasing (and sometimes being problematic, as vandals are creating "unofficial" versions without permissions of the original Japanese wikis outside Miraheze) recently.-- 03:07, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ John (talk) 09:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) -- 09:49, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Request for Wiki Creator for Cy
Hello. I would like to request wiki creator. I have read the wiki creator's guide, and was inactive, but not anymore. I also see a large amount of requests, because of my timezone, one where almost no wiki creators are active. I would like to hear opinions on this. Thanks, and sincerely,  Cy connect  23:20, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Seems ok. ✅ by me. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 01:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, but I couldn't find any log actually showing s/he has been actually permitted. Could you reconfirm what's going on?-- 03:24, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The wiki creator is given a bit after it is approved. Sincerely,  Cy connect  04:22, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Just a quick note pleasantly surprised this is how this happened. Wiki Creator is granted at the discretion of any system administrator, but system administrators (who are also not crats or stewards) are not supposed to regularly using their userrights and userrights-interwiki permissions. So MacFan4000 (a sysadmin) approved the request and John (a steward) assigned the permissions. PuppyKun (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ John (talk) 09:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

XML Page Import Protocol
Hi, I just started my wiki here today. I am trying to import all of the pages that I had on my Wikia, however, I am having difficulties doing so. Whenever I try to import my pages I get the error message "Import failed: No interwiki prefix was supplied". I'm unfamiliar with the Interwiki prefix, what should I be doing? CerebralPolicy (talk)

I looked at the FAQ I think I have a better idea of what to do now CerebralPolicy (talk) 03:51, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about your imports, but what I can say for sure is that you haven't set your logo in a proper format. See this page for more details.-- 04:16, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have everything imported, but I'm also having issues with some Infoboxes like this, it works perfectly fine on another wiki, I'm not sure why. CerebralPolicy (talk) 14:29, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Wherever you took the infobox module/template from, you also need to copy over the page MediaWiki:Common.css. It contains all the styling for the infoboxes and will resolve all the display issues with them. -- Void  Whispers 16:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have copied over the Common.css from Wikipedia, so they should work. Indeed, the templates do display but they display a generic "Unknown" instead of the Military infobox template, I don't know why because the css import worked with the country infoboxes. CerebralPolicy (talk) 16:34, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, for whatever reason, Template:Infobox seemed to have gotten stuck on a revision that included something about wikia-infoboxes. I restored it to the version that is compatible with the national military infobox, but that might break other things. (but hopefully not) -- Void  Whispers 16:45, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Help Sidebar
Hello, I come once with a problem, in my wiki the sidebar does not work as it seems, I'll leave the MediaWiki:Sidebar link so they can see

https://pirategalaxy.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar GOTILON - Talk  - <span style="color: #F8EFFB; font-family: Harrington; text-shadow: 0px 0px 0px #00A6AE,1px 1px 0px #00A6AE,2px 2px 0px #00A6AE,0 0 7px #00A6AE,0 0 7px #00A6AE;">Contributions  16:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * You mean the blueprint section, right? I think you should add a proper pagename/URL before those items, like, or  . The one in Illogicopedia might be a good sample of this.-- 16:17, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Visual Editor not scaling SVG files
Sorry to post again in such a short period. I have run into a conundrum, I'm not exactly sure where this question should be directed. I really like using the visual editor but I have noticed that it displays SVG files at full size. This is a bit problematic because I use SVG files for my flags. When I go to edit this page the flag in the infobox scales to the default 600x300px size. I was going to go on phabricator until I noticed that the visual editor did the same thing on this page. So it seems to be universal. However, it does not do this when using visual editor on Wikipedia, for example when editing Canada the flag in the infobox stays the same size as it does when viewing the page. Has anyone else noticed this? I'm posting it here because you all were very helpful earlier. - CerebralPolicy (talk) 20:07, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have checked that it actually happens myself, but I'm not sure why. I think it's related to the configuration of Miraheze, so you should ask it on Phab.-- 20:40, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Possibility of moving Radlines to Miraheze
Hello,

I started the wiki radlines in Miraheze (then under the name radviser, at radviser.miraheze.org). I then moved the project to Civihosting, now at radlines.org, where it has been further developed. It now has several extensions, such as CommentStreams as well as its own layout settings (menus, license choices for uploads, introduction at the Create user page etc.). Due to slow servers at Civihosting I am now considering moving the project to Miraheze again. First, I would like to know: Best regards, Mikael Häggström (talk) 09:06, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If the project would happen to grow and be as popular as for example Radiopaedia, would the servers here still manage to have relatively fast loading times?
 * The project is non-profit and I will soon make it an official organization as such. Eventually, it will have its own financials and "Donate"-page. Does it seem alright that 10% of the donations will then go to Miraheze as Internet hosting? I compared to Wikipedia's 6% for the same category.
 * Actually, I'll wait and see if the slow loading issue can be fixed at the current host. Mikael Häggström (talk) 14:23, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Help with the proofreadpage extension
I was wondering if anyone has ever used or has an understanding of the proofread page extension I would like to use this properly on my Great War wiki and am in the process of trying it out. I have most of it working (having had to include a few other things to make it function correctly) with the exception of two things that I can see. I would really appreciate any help in trying to fix these as the first issue is just aesthetically unpleasing to the eye and the second issue is the main the reason I wanted to use this extension. Apologies for being absent on meta for quite some time; I've had some stuff to deal with and have been busy with adding pages on my wiki. Thanks. 21:12, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) There is a Lua error message on my page here compared with Wikisource's same page here I don't know what this is or how to fix this.
 * 2) The page numbers, shown thus in square parentheses: [1] [2] [3] etc., which when hovering over highlights the text for that page (of the original source), don't appear on my page or any other page. This is the one main thing I really want to work but doesn't.
 * Ah, the first error has nothing to do with the extension. I'll have to try and clean up some of your modules as they seem to require extraneous features. The other one is a script or gadget. I'll find out what you need shortly. -- Void  Whispers 00:54, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The script you're looking for is PageNumbers.js, and can be loaded with . --  Void  Whispers 00:56, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for having a look, and so quickly too. What do you mean by it can be loaded using the code above? Do you mean this is all that's needed on MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js to load the appropriate code directly from Wikisource? I've haven't done anything like this before so don't know how it works, however, this is what I've done. Is it a case of waiting to see if the changes take effect? 08:11, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to be working, did I do it correctly? 06:39, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Should have been more clear here, but the best place to put that line would be MediaWiki:Common.js as it won't load for anyone in its current place. -- Void  Whispers 16:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, tried that. How long does it usually take to work as it's still not show those page numbers? Does it matter where that code is placed on Commons.js? 20:54, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Update: there seems to be some strange behavior happening. The page numbers have appeared, but only when logged out. When logged in they disappear. In addition to this, when hovering over the numbers, the highlighted area is not highlighting the correct text. Also, the numbers don't have enough indented white space around them. Is this a skinning issue or is something else at play here? Thanks. 07:24, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Help with infobox
Hi, I've been having trouble trying to get my infobox to work correctly (the template in question shown here). I've been trying to create a cell box (if that's the right word for it) for it and for it to be shifted to the right (shown here). I'm very new to the MediaWiki style of editing after editing on Wikia for the past few years so any help would be great! Coldcherrii (talk) 02:56, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You are missing styling most likely from MediaWiki:Common.css, depending on where you took the infoboxes from. I'm not too sure since I don't usually deal with Wikia templates. I think what you need is the styling:

.infobox { background-color: #f2f2f2; border: 1px solid #cccccc; clear: right; color: #3a3a3a; float: right; margin-bottom: .5em; margin-left: 1em; padding: .2em; }
 * But I'm not sure that will handle everything. -- Void  Whispers 03:04, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It worked so far! Thank you so much! Coldcherrii (talk) 03:09, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Wiki does not make
When trying to make a wiki, you can not make it by displaying the message "The database name may not contain non-alphanumeric characters." Why are the messages displayed, although they should not be typed except for alphanumeric characters?--大根やろう (talk) 08:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me what the wiki name is?
 * Have you checked that you entered your subdomain WITHOUT, and in one word (without spaces)?
 * I've had such error in the past because I have mistakenly added miraheze.org, which is unnecessary.-- 09:21, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--大根やろう (talk) 12:02, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 * My pleasure :) (but it's a bit ironic, because it was I who answered this question, and at the same time who lead you to Miraheze meta instead of talking about this issue at Enpedia, isn't it? 結局日本人が答えている訳ですし).-- 12:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)modded.-- 12:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

How much longer are we going to be without images?
I have a major publicity push going for my wiki the month of July, and images started acting up two days into this initiative (no uploads, then no images at all, then images, and now no images at all again.)

What is the ETA of having full image functionality be restored?

And why did we not get advance notice of something that would make such a major impact on all of the wikis on Miraheze? If I had known in advance, I could have re-scheduled the publicity push, but it's too late for that now. I saw no notices of any planned upgrades.

--Robkelk (talk) 16:53, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello we apologise for the lack of communication and for not notifying sooner, which wiki is having no images? Paladox (talk) 18:20, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I've ran a script to make all containers public so that you can view your images now. (only 1 container is still private per user request). Please let us know if it still does not work. Paladox (talk) 18:51, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * The image issues were taking place on poserdazfreebies and allthetropes. --Robkelk (talk) 14:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * So are the issues now fixed? Again, we are sorry for not having communicating this in advance, and hope it has not caused any serious disruptions, and we will make sure to communicate such actions in the future. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 14:42, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * , I've double-checked, and it appears to be fixed now. Thank you. --Robkelk (talk) 17:41, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Bots and anyone interested in creating one
I was wondering if anyone has a particular skill in creating and using bots. I am starting to get going now with my Great War transcribing site, having recently installed the Proofread Page extension, and one of the laborious tasks for each book in the early stages is creating a new page for every page of a book. If a book has 600+ pages, like the one I've just started, you can imagine it is a time-consuming process even if you only have to click on "create," click the "Not proofread" button and then save. It is, after all a raw page that hasn't been proofread, but the page still needs creating nonetheless. I am hoping a bot will be able to this for me so I can get on with the actual proofreading, which in itself is a lengthy process. Is anyone, with a particular interest or skill in this field, able to create a bot with this task in mind to help and save me considerable time. If not, no worries, just thought I'd ask at this early juncture. Thanks. 15:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I know and  have created bots. Reception123  (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 17:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Depending on where the book material originates from, I don't think it would be too difficult to get something working, especially since it looks like those pages can be altered and created with a standard edit and default to "Not proofread". -- Void  Whispers 18:10, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have been using archive.org as my base for out-of-copyright material, some I'm interested in and many I'm not. The main current one, I noticed later, is on Wikisource as well and I'm using .djvu files. It would be great if a bot could be created to take the burden of creating the page first, and as it is literally one click on the "Not proofread" button and save, the operation, at least for a bot, I am hoping, would be fairly simple (not that I actually understand how they work). Please do let me know if you're interested in creating one. As always, your help makes a big difference, cheers.  18:58, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not to familiar with proofread ext and stuff like that when it comes to bots, so i wont be any help here... sorry! Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 17:26, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Since this could be useful for people outside Miraheze as well, maybe you should also try asking around MediaWiki.org, since there might be someone willing to help there. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 19:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem pal. 20:29, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't actually have an account on MediaWiki.org. It would seem a bit odd to create one and my first post there to be a request for someone to create a bot for me. I think I'd have to establish myself a little first. For the time being it looks like I'm going to have do this the longer, more laborious way, which in itself isn't too bad, it's just boring. I just wish I knew how to code stuff! 20:29, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Adding MsCalendar to my wiki
Hi, I am trying to add the MsCalendar to my wiki, I have enabled it in Special:ManageWiki, but the simple text

<MsCalendar>UTOPIAE calendar</MsCalendar>

is not doing the drill. Any help is much appreciated!

It takes about a minute for changes from ManageWiki to take effect, I have checked the page and the calendar works for me. Please tell me if you are still experiencing issues. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 19:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

File doomed
Hi, looking on the filelist i see, that some files are lost. What is to do? Is an NEW upload an good methode? greatings Rimbao (talk) 21:50, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * a New Upload was reporting the error message

In der Datenbank „miraheze-swift“ ist ein unbekannter Fehler aufgetreten.
 * --Rimbao (talk) 22:06, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


 * We are looking into this. Paladox (talk) 22:12, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


 * it is an general problem see --Rimbao (talk) 23:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Problem is solved! Thanks --Rimbao (talk) 03:42, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Problems with images and thumbnails
Is anyone else experiencing some problems with images and thumbnails not showing? I don't know if the .djvu or .pdf files are corrupt or there is an issue after uploading. One of my .djvu files has missing thumbnails (and I need these so I can see what to transcribe) and then I tried to upload a .pdf version of the same file and I received this error notice: "An unknown error occurred in storage backend "miraheze-swift". This just started this evening. Any solutions? 22:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, which wiki is this for? Paladox (talk) 22:08, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It's for thegreatwar.miraheze.org I think all of the .djvu files are affected in some way or another, but it does seem quite sporadic as to which images within those files are displaying and which aren't. They are accessible from the Transcribing projects page, and any with "Yes" in the first column "Index" has an index of the .djvu files. Clicking on random pages reveals some images not displaying, with the following message: "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination". Other images are fine and display properly; it's purely random. This is what happened the other day when work was being done on the images update/upgrade etc. Cheers. 22:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * All of my images have gone now, including my logo. Is anyone else having the same issue or is it just me? 06:47, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, your images now work. Paladox (talk) 17:06, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the fix. What causes the issue? 17:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Permission errors on your wiki's image container. We are considering switching from swift to a alternative as it seems since the switch to swift there has been more problems. We will announce before doing it though (switch). Paladox (talk) 17:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Has this happened on a few other wikis then, permission errors on image containers? I didn't know image containers had permissions associated with them. I noticed that my images didn't always load properly, they were a bit temperamental at times but they gave up entirely last night right in the middle of some transcribing I was working on. I've always got other things I can work though. 18:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep other wiki's have had this problem. The permission is by default only read only and write only to the user. We have all containers apart from one open to anons (so you doin't need a container account to view the images). Sometimes it seems it is loosing the permission to view the image as a anon. Paladox (talk) 18:27, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Why not create something like Wikimedia Commons (a shared image repository for all Miraheze wikis)?
Hi. I'd like to propose to create a wiki like Wikimedia Commons here on Miraheze. Miraheze hosts over 2000 wikis, but, as far as I know, there's no wiki working as a globally-shared image repository, though there's one for templates.

By creating such wiki,
 * 1) Users won't have to upload the same image on every wiki, when necessary. Users can use it on all wikis by uploading it to Commons.
 * 2) Miraheze can save its disc space, because we can reduce uploads of duplicated images on multiple wikis.

Since this wiki will be a wiki that affects all other Miraheze wikis, I think it should be run by Miraheze personnel (such as Stewards), if we are to create one. However, before making a decision, I propose that this issue of creating Commons should be discussed by the community, thus here I am to post this.

Thanks for reading.-- 03:32, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't think we need to do the work to create an analog of Wikimedia Commons, when Miraheze wikis have automatic access to the real thing; please read here.  05:04 13-Jul-2018
 * I know that we can use images from Wikimedia Commons, but we have to visit the website OUTSIDE Miraheze to upload images, if we wish to use it as something like "Miraheze Commons." On the other hand, by creating our own Commons, we no longer have to create another account to go to Wikimedia. I should also note that some images can be deleted because they aren't necessary for Wikimedia and its projects, even if we need them on multiple Miraheze wikis (since Wikimedia and Miraheze have different policies), while creating our own Commons wiki will allow us to upload any images as long as we follow our Content Policy.-- 05:27, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is a bad idea. It did seem a little redundant to me at first because I have used Commons for quite a few images and it's a simple way to instantly show them in your articles without the hassle of uploading, adding descriptions and licences, however, what harm could it do to have our own Commons? I know I have a ton of photos I could upload but whether they'd be any use to anyone is another matter. 18:05, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

I have several problems with my wiki.
Hi. I'd like to report several problems regarding my wiki. I need a solution for these issues. Could anyone help me? Thanks.-- 18:33, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) I can't see Special:RecentChanges, with an error "504 Gateway Time-out" returned. Other pages are displayed fine, and it's only seen on RecentChanges.
 * 2) I need to use the alternative widget of Extension:html5mediator shown at Extensions in order to play some mp3 files. However, the link provided there is a link to a private wiki, and I cannot see the contents, nor import it to my wiki. I need a valid link that enables us to check how it works.
 * It seems that the problem of RecentChanges only happens when I try to see 500 recent changes (when limited to 250, it worked properly). Do you have any ideas why this happens?-- 03:31, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to make an alternative for mw:Extension:DynamicFunctions?
Hi, I've migrated our old wiki here on Miraheze, and have a technical issue regarding mw:Extension:DynamicFunctions. Some of our pages depends on this function and doesn't work. However, at the same time, I think Miraheze will not install this extension because it's currently archived. Thus, we need an alternative. Can anyone help us with this? Thanks for helping.-- 02:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * P.S. The wiki in question is Usopedia. For the pages that should be modded, I'll provide you a list ASAP (just not now, because I'm kind of packed up, but general solutions are welcome).-- 02:51, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

ManageWiki help page
Hi folks, I've setup User:Void/ManageWiki in order to have a help page/user documentation page for Special:ManageWiki. If there's anything critical missing, please either suggest it, or add it. Otherwise, I'll be moving it into the mainspace and linking to it from the FAQ and request features pages. If anyone thinks images are necesary, I can plop those in as well. -- Void  Whispers 18:40, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That's great, just what we needed. As soon as the newest change for ManageWiki is rolled out I will update the page with the relevant information (there will be a separate extensions page for convenience). This help page should also definitely be linked somehow (help button?) From the special page. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 20:17, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks good, just what we need. This is something I brought up in the year 3 survey, well not exactly a help page but certainly more information about the extensions on the Manage a Wiki special page. It isn't automatically apparent, especially for new users maybe, what it is you are supposed to do here; and the extensions don't even have a heading (to say that's what they are). It looks obvious to those already in the know but there will always be others that aren't sure. This is why I suggested to have a couple of sentences about what the extensions section does and how it works etc. directly above the list of extensions on the Manage a Wiki page. Your help page material though is beneficial to all, good job. 21:13, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Recently, we've implemented links to the MediaWiki.org pages of the extensions into ManageWiki, so you can read all about them by clicking on the links. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 10:50, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I noticed that yesterday and thought that was a great improvement. The Manage a Wiki special page is huge step forward for Miraheze and an impressive leap for user front-end wiki management. I, personally, think it's a great tool and look forward to seeing any other features that may appear in the future. Great work by the creators/authors. 17:20, 15 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I've updated the page with the most recent changes and pushed it into the mainspace. I'll find places in the FAQ and elsewhere to link to the page from. If you have any suggestions for pages that should get links, let me know and I can add them soon. -- Void  Whispers 21:07, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Styling for login and preferences pages
I was just wondering why the login page and the preferences page doesn't have the same styling that I have included in Vector.css. These seem to be the only two pages that do not use my additional styling. Is there a particular reason for this? Is it a security issue or something? I would like to be able to have both these pages use the same styling as everything else if possible. Just let me know if it requires a ticket on phabricator. Thanks. 21:04, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Certain special pages don't load custom styling. I'm not actually sure what needs to get done in order to do styling to those pages. It might not be possible without completely customizing those pages. -- Void  Whispers 18:42, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have had a look on Mediawiki.org and found this: Manual:$wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages Do you think this something Miraheze would allow? 20:59, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What do you think about the above? Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 10:51, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm cautious. It's a very valid security issue, esp given how we operate with unified logins, unvetted administrators without a strong community backing, lack of trust etc and so on. I'm not saying yes, I'm not saying no - I'm leaving it as a judgement call. John (talk) 18:29, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't want to ruffle any feathers. Just seems strange to have styling for the whole site except specific pages, especially when the styling is substantially different between those pages. If yes, then great. If not, that's fine too. 20:39, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * What is the outcome of this? I'll go with whatever says but a definite Yes or No is required then I can put this one to bed.  21:16, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

New "interwiki admin" group for Miraheze (RfC?)
For a while now, we have a number of users unhappy with the fact that Special:Interwiki can only be edited by sysadmins, who would like to be able to edit their own interwiki as that would be more practical and easier for them. The reason for which interwiki is restricted for sysadmins is the fact that if any wiki administrator could edit it, they could link malicious sites (phishing, spam) and disguise them as wiki links, which can be dangerous for our users. Therefore, as a solution I would propose the creation of a new "inter-wiki" global group granted by sysadmins to some users who enter a certain criteria (TBD). I would like to know if the community is interested in such a thing, before starting an RfC. This group would be a global group only for changing interwiki, and would be granted to trusted users. These users would only change interwiki for the wikis who requested it (or for their own). Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 11:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with the basic idea. For the criteria, I have 2 drafts.
 * Draft 1: Users having autopatrolled permission on meta, and/or global staffs (Steward, Sysadmins, CVT, etc), indicating global trust.
 * Draft 2: Users fulfilling the draft 1 above or users who request the permission, and is supported by more than half of the voters (including, at least 1 staff).
 * -- 11:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Incorrect information - we delegated interwiki management to meta admins not sysadmins. Therefore all it takes to increase this is more meta admins or a discussion on meta to increase it locally as we delegated this responsibility to meta to take it out of the global sysadmin purview. John (talk) 18:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Theese day it does not make things much different, as only one of our sysadmins is not a local sysop. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 19:06, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Meta admin is waaay easier to get than sysadmin. It makes a massive difference. John (talk) 19:26, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that most users who could have this right wouldn't really be interested in performing other Meta duties; they mostly just want to change their interwikis when they want, since many current requests take time, this would be way more convenient. I also think that interwiki should be something added locally to wikis, and the global Miraheze interwiki list should not be changed often. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 22:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * About the interwikis. I'd rather [w:Example] link to Wikipedia in Spanish than Wikipedia in English. So that I don't have to write [w:es:Example] Wiki1776 (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 19:54, 22 July 2018 (UTC)


 * I think it would be useful to establish a global group to allow for editing local interwiki links (and not set that high of a bar on getting in). Further, users would be able to ask for either the permission or the assistance of a volunteer with the permission. However, I'm of the mind that we should keep the global list restricted to meta admins. -- Void  Whispers 20:06, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with the global list idea. Since there is enough support for this proposal, I think an RfC can be started. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 06:40, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Please note that the the link for the RfC is Requests for Comment/Interwiki links editing. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 11:59, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

zh-tw

 * Hi, you can will my wiki change domain zh-tw.internetpedia.miraheze.org?thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 00:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess that's what you should request on Phabricator.-- 01:37, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Can not be done for technical reasions at present. A sysadmin may correct me but until then I believe that this is the policy and setup. Regards Sau226 (talk) 10:47, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

jCarousel stopped working after logout
Has anyone used this before? It is a gadget (MediaWiki:Gadget-Carousel.js and .css), which took a bit of work to get it the way I wanted it. I've only recently incorporated it into my site but after last night it seems to have stopped working (here's a version on one of my user pages: User:Borderman/jCarousel). It is currently on my main page and as it is a one of the main elements I would like to get it working again. Any ideas how to fix it? 12:17, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Correction: I should have said it stopped working as a guest (after logging out). 12:20, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Change the line on Gadgets-definition to  and it should be automatically enabled for all users. --  Void  Whispers 19:23, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. I have changed it and it works to a degree, however, the contents on my main page are transcluded from four different templates and the same problem is still there. The carousel works for guests on the original pages but not on transcluded pages. When logged in though the carousel then works on the transcluded pages. Is there a workaround for this? 22:26, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it works for me, both logged in and logged out, so I suspect it's a caching thing. -- Void  Whispers 23:09, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are absolutely right. The one thing I usually check is the one thing I didn't do this time....rookie mistake. All working fine now, many thanks. Regarding cache etc., did you see the message I left on your talk page about the purge button? 23:37, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, I had forgotten about that. I took a look at it and for some reason it looks like it's defined by the extension and isn't easily modified. But, I still need to confirm. -- Void  Whispers 23:41, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Wiki creator request by Centrist16
Hello everyone, I'm Centrist16 and I have been a member on Miraheze for a little more than a year now. I have spent most of my time here transitioning content and the community of Constructed Worlds Wiki from Wikia over to Miraheze at the Altverse Wiki as its founder. I have been editing and participating MediaWiki communities for nearly 10 years now, and I made the decision to migrate from Wikia to Miraheze because I found that Miraheze was much more faithful to the software and format sites such as Wikipedia currently use. I have been an active contributor there and recently I have decided to expand my scope more broadly by participating on Meta. Whenever there has been a bug or report, I have filed a report on Phabricator and I have joined Miraheze's Discord in order to connect with fellow users. I am interested in furthering the needs of Miraheze by assisting it as a wiki creator. I read that despite the growing number of wiki creators/global sysops as of late, Miraheze continues to suffer from understaffing due to various reasons (time constraints, real life commitments, etc.). If I join, I seek to uphold the role faithfully, and render help diligently to new users who are interested in using Miraheze's services. I have read and familiarized myself with the wiki creator's guide. &#32;  centrist16 | Talk |  |   &#32; 01:33, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ John (talk) 03:03, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Image error message
When creating new pages in the proofread extension the image of a page is supposed to visible side by side with the text to be transcribed/edited, however, at the moment the images appear a bit hit and miss. Some appear and others don't, and this is the error message in place of the image:

What does this mean? When saving the page some images then appear, but others still don't until I leave the page then go back to it later. It's not a major problem at the moment but the images should always be visible regardless of whether it's a new page or an existing one. If the image isn't available at the time I would like to edit the text, this is going to be a problem. As always, suggestions/help appreciated. Thanks. 08:39, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, we have located where the problem is and why it was intermittent. We were missing a package which was installed on one of the mw* where the others did not have it. Resolved in https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/commit/6cd7ec7f6c0553eaf70469f3c141bb1c3ab190d7 Paladox (talk) 13:05, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * All working now, thanks for sorting it out, appreciate the help. 20:58, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


 * /me thanks for him spotting the actual error. Paladox (talk) 21:01, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Internal error and fatal exception
Has anyone else encountered this? Right at the end of proofreading a page when saving I started getting a lot of internal errors with the following message:

and also:

Refreshing a page sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Is there some work being carried out? 22:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, we have fixed the problem. We re ran LC. Also please include the wiki which is having the problem in the future :) Paladox (talk) 00:14, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It also happened at Usopedia at around 8 am this morning (JST). However, I guess it's already fixed according to your report, and it seems to be working fine for now.-- 03:02, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sorting that out. I have two wikis and I'm only working on one of them at the moment, thegreatwar wiki, So all my queries etc. will be associated with that wiki. But if I remember at the time I will include which wiki for clarification. Cheers. 07:48, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

I am short of hands
I do not have enough hands. What should I do?--ウソつき (talk) 05:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * So you mean, you're too busy working on your wiki? One way is to find someone who can work as admin/BC there (I can, if you wish).-- 06:00, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

error
When opening usar: talk of my wiki, the screen "[4ce93e5b3f1e5921d3bb3f8d] 2018-08-02 08: 51: 35: Fatal exception of type MWUnknownContentModelException" is displayed. What should I do?--ウソつき (talk) 09:01, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please give a link to the page for us to be able to help. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 09:03, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, it is this. We will look into it. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 09:10, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. It was because you enabled but then disabled Flow. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 09:15, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * How can I deal with it?--ウソつき (talk) 09:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You don't have to do anything related to it anymore. Please just try to be careful when you turn on mw:Extension:Flow when you create your next wiki.-- 09:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Wiki URL change request
Hey! I wanted to know if it's possible to change the "adventuretime" in to "digimon" in the adventuretimewiki's URL given a change in focus. If it is, then I would like for it to not redirect to our new url if possible. Here's the URL to the wiki I'm talking about
 *  https://adventuretime.miraheze.org  (I just want  https://adventuretime  replaced with  https://digimon  if it's doable)

Thanks in advanced!-Jordan D (talk) 07:57, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved from SN Yes, that is possible. Would you be able to request that on Phabricator to facilitate tracking? Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#FF0000">'C' ) 08:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That would be nice, yes. Thanks. Sorry for replying so late, I didn't see this.-Jordan D (talk) 16:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Special:Import not working
I'm trying to import templates to my wiki (https://hasanistan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page), like I had done before successfully, and it does not work and comes up with "Import failed: No page to import!".

Please help, thanks in advance! -OIMGov (talk) 18:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe your templates have already been imported. Did you check the log?-- 05:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Since 1.31 importing pages doesn't link to editors who didn't move yet - any fix?
I know this depends on MediaWiki software and not on Miraheze, but I wonder if there's a fix. Importing pages now requires to give an interlink prefix and you can specify whether to assign edits to existing contributors or not, while before it just linked to their pages, whether they existed or not. There's two issues with this new behavior: Did someone have to deal with this? Would Miraheze staff consider changing this behavior or downgrade to 1.30 in order to prevent headhaches from people who want to move here without losing everything?--Wedhro (talk) 15:09, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The user is now displayed as interwiki prefix>user, for example "it>Wedhro", instead of just "Wedhro", which is useless in a wiki which moved from a different website and doesn't differentiate users by their nationality, and doesn't look good on history pages;
 * The user page is linked only if the user already created an account, so moving a wiki, tweaking it and only then allowing users to join will zero their edits and make their username in histories not clickable, which is very, very annoying.
 * Changing this behavior is not really possible. We can, however, attach the edits to a user's account on request. -- Void  Whispers 20:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Are you allowed to evade blocks that are obviously made in bad-faith or are otherwise invalid?
This is something that came up in the #miraheze IRC channel this evening regarding several recent CVT actions. Apparently, several accounts were globally locked and several IP ranges globally blocked for “mass block evasion” on a particular wiki. However, nobody involved in performing these actions has been able to clearly state what the original offense was on the original account or IP. “Block evasion” in and of itself can never be the initial reason for one to be blocked. In order to be blocked for block evasion, one must have also been blocked for something else under a different account.

My question is, if that original something else (whatever it may be) was obviously invalid or made in bad-faith, are you, as a user blocked in bad-faith, allowed to evade that block, assuming that you don’t engage in any behavior that would warrant a valid block? To put that in perspective, consider the following hypothetical scenarios:


 * 12:00 6 August 2018 Admin (talk) blocked Example (talk) with an expiry time of indefinite (Vandalism-only account)


 * 12:00 6 August 2018 Admin (talk) blocked Example (talk) with an expiry time of indefinite (Because I feel like it)


 * 12:00 6 August 2018 Admin (talk) blocked Example (talk) with an expiry time of indefinite (no reason given)

Of the above 3 examples, only the first block is valid. It is perfectly acceptable to indefinitely block a vandalism-only account. However, the other two blocks are not valid. It is not acceptable to indefinitely block someone just “because you feel like it” or without a reason altogether. Therefore, if you are the owner of an account that has been blocked in bad-faith or for an invalid reason, like the second or third examples above, do you have the right to evade that block since the original block was invalid?

If the first user above (vandalism-only account) creates a sock that is also a vandalism-only account, that’s not acceptable. However, if the second or third users above create a second account and continue to contribute productively, without violating any policies, is that “valid blocke evasion”? Amanda Catherine (talk) 23:50, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It is blocked to evade period. It is disruptive. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 23:54, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * My point is, it’s not disruptive if you’re evading a bad-faith block. An admin who blocks in bad-faith should be desysopped. As long as you don’t engage in personal attacks or anything else blockable, you do not have the right to be invalidly blocked. Amanda Catherine (talk) 23:59, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Then it is a local community issue. Not a global one or otherwise. John (talk) 00:00, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * And if the issue fails to be resolved locally? At the end of the day, if I’ve been blocked by a rouge or bad-faith admin, I do not deserve to be essentially kicked off the project for no reason. Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:02, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Then contact stewards who will look and try and resolve it on your behalf. If the community can't resolve it, stewards can act as an intermediate source to try and resolve an issue otherwise there is not a lot. John (talk) 00:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Then be an adult and move on if your blocked for invalid reasons to begin with. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 00:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Why should any user allow themselves to be walked over by a bad-faith admin? Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Why should a community put up with a user who makes tens of accounts to intentionally evade a block placed on the user regardless of reason? Local communities decide their policies so why should one person of said community have the ability to say what is valid and what administrators can do? John (talk) 00:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Because a local community that says that it is acceptable for admins to block users for no reason, or “just because they feel like it” is acting in bad-faith. You need to have a valid reason for kicking someone out from a community. Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If a policy says "administrators can decide who is a member of this community" then blocking users "just because they feel like it" is valid and not bad faith. Is it a good policy to have? Of course not, but it is valid. The act of then evading that instead of trying to come to a peaceful resolution will severely lower the chances of that user ever becoming a successful contributor of that community. John (talk) 00:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * A policy that says “administrators can decide who is a member of this community” sounds like something that should belong on a private wiki, where admins can manually whitelist users access via the member group (unless changed). Having a public wiki and then blocking people for no reason isn’t good. Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It isn't but it doesn't make the community any less legitimate. Resolve disputes, don't cause them is the simple rule here. Causing disruption makes it less of a civil matter and more of a global issue and in that case, the user will lose as they are intentionally disrupting Miraheze. John (talk) 00:32, 7 August 2018 (UTC)