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Wiki exemption request
Hi! Please, is there a way to make the wiki  exempt from the Dormancy Policy? I have several reasons for this:
 * The wiki has duplicate content stopped from the old blog I ran on the same subject. Therefore, it was futile for not being indexed properly in search engines and the content was cloying. After importing, I had to change some content and wrong words. I will be deleting the blog posts soon.
 * We don't expect many editors given the style of content (and the fact that there is a full community wiki with a 'similar' scope is actually far from that). Of course we appreciate new editors if possible, but it's not urgent at the moment.
 * Content has a certain Importance over help, which is definitely a reason for the exemption. There are no other wikis with a specific scope for this one, and we'll be over 30 articles soon and growing. Also, the contents generally don't need to be very 'busy', or rather, updated.
 * Content is precious.
 * I will soon ask to delete some useless wikis that I use to save maintenance storage. This is the second and last wiki that I ask for exemption, as it is extremely important.

Thanks! YellowFroggerAlt (talk) 02:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * You're not supposed to evade your block by using another account. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, this looks to have been a good-faith request; however, you should have used your user talk page. I will revert the block as sockpuppetry is managed by Stewards, lock your alternate account, and your alternate account will not be unlocked until all existing global and Meta Wiki user/editing restrictions of your main account have been lifted. Please consider this your absolute final warning on the matter. You are not to edit on Meta Wiki, other than your user talk page. You may use admin help to request assistance of a Meta administrator. If it relates to something within Stewards' purview, they will be sure to ping them to your request. As to your Dormancy Policy exemption request, this will be separately considered, and you informed of the outcome on your user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 02:34, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Resignation of rights
Please remove my wikicreator flag. Thanks. --Magogre (talk) 04:18, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Magogre, ✅, with regrets but thanks for your service. Dmehus (talk) 04:25, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Restore accidentally revoked rights
I created a new wiki about 10 minutes ago called scratchscprp (https://scratchscprp.miraheze.org/), and I was removing the "ManageWiki" right, as I had created another user group with this right (superadmin). I believed I had this group, but for some reason when I had "added" it, it did not add the user group, assuming the group was ready to go, I removed the ManageWiki right, again, assuming I had the group. I can't edit my wiki anymore and I wasn't even near close to finishing. GAMS2 (talk) 23:01, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I've restored the managewiki permission to the bureaucrat group. Be sure to double check your group membership before removing such important rights next time :) -- Void  Whispers 23:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I also wrote a literal note in the "reason for change" when I allowed for adding the group to myself, thanks again! GAMS2 (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Request to remove Bureaucrat status for resigned user
One of our wiki Bureaucrats on the Unofficial English Twisted Wonderland Wiki (User:Sugarbeans) has officially resigned from the team. We would like to request for the removal of their Bureaucrat role in line with this. Xnotyuki (talk) 06:57, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Xnotyuki, ✅, as the local wiki user rights log entries make it clear enough the user was intending to resign from all advanced permissions, but technically restricted from removing the  bit by the wiki's ManageWiki configuration, which is also the recommended ManageWiki configuration. Should the user request the   permission again, you, or another bureaucrat on the wiki, can re-add it in line with the local wiki policies. Dmehus (talk) 16:59, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Asking to make me the Administrator here
Reason: I was in Miraheze for about 2 years, I initially went to Miraheze because I was interested in moving my wiki in the Fandom to Miraheze but because of problems the activity was canceled but after I was taken down from the Fandom I tried to move here, my friend has a wiki here that is no longer used (link : https://tolololpedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Halaman_Utama) I've opened the wiki but now I want to get more permissions so I can manage the wiki completely ChioGaming2007 (talk) 14:11, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ChioGaming2007, please request permissions locally from any bureaucrat, in line with any local policies (should any exist), including, but not limited to, on their user talk page. If no response is received within a few days or so, please return here, asking Stewards to implement a local sitenotice to advertise your permissions request prominently and allow any community members to express views (whether positive or negative). After about a week or so, rights may be granted by Stewards. Dmehus (talk) 17:08, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The bureaucrat has long retired or is no longer active ChioGaming2007 (talk) 21:48, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That may well be. Nevertheless, while I realize this is a bit bureaucratic (pardon the pun, which was not intended), our processes call for following this formality, mainly in cases on wikis where there are other community members. Dmehus (talk) 21:51, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Deletion
I would like to request for my wiki, ApadoTech to be deleted from Miraheze due to the organization surrounding ApadoTech collapsed and now not longer exist. ApadoTech Wiki is accessible here: https://apadotech.miraheze.org/wiki/ApadoTech_Wiki Small Pig reporter (talk) 09:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC)


 * As you are the wiki's sole contributor and and per your rationale otherwise, the wiki has been ✅. --Raidarr (talk) 18:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Lock accounts
Please lock these users.

User:U+1F602 Thought that was how to make super emoji usernames :( User:ミラクルミュージカル  I genuinely don't know the point of this account.

User:Jetnet Same as above, made a long time ago, back when dinosaurs ruled the land.

Yes, I did copy and paste these from my alt list :P -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 00:33, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Dmehus (talk) 00:36, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Why are those right-wing idiots taking over Qualitipedia?

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 * Out of scope of stewards' noticeboard. As an aside, the Qualitipedia wikis are arguably known more for users of left leaning ideologies. Please also be mindful of the language used to refer to other users. Dmehus (talk) 02:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

MJ2003 (talk) 01:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


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Can the Delightful Music and Songs Wiki and Worst Music and Songs Wiki please be reopened?
In this month, the Music reception wikis were closed. However, there are reasons why it NEEDS to be reopened. They can be helped with, and there are stll a lot of edits to do. MarioBobFan (talk) 00:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


 * MarioBobFan, please see this blog post on the matter. These two wikis have significant Content Policy issues, mainly around improperly copied content from  and its sister wiki, without attribution. Even if attribution is added, it becomes a content fork wiki of those wikis, requiring Steward mediation. I've suggested two possible options to Raidarr, in his   capacity. One is to make the wikis private, inviting editors into the wiki to assist with tagging duplicated pages for deletion or assisting with other remediation activities. The other is a potential Qualitipedia Wiki local RfC proposing to close and delete the wikis, encouraging editors to edit on the very similar non-Qualitipedia wikis. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * In supplement to this and in my local capacity, I have opted to simply close the wikis and allow manual addition of anyone who is interested in bettering them. Feel free to volunteer at the blog dmehus linked, and be one of the parties to remove duplicate content. If successful they can be reopened and left in the hands of the users who were interested enough to do the work to give them a future. --Raidarr (talk) 09:35, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Vandal threats
Someone threatened to vandalize my wiki for using "his assets" (Weren't created by him nor were copyrighted). Is there anything I can do to stop this guy? I don't have admin yet. (referring to the backrooms wiki which I adopted.) Sheep42 (talk) 17:55, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you that guy who adopted that wiki and is still trying to get rights? Unfortunately the stewards are very slow due to their occupations. About the threat, I believe you are referring to an alert from a user named Josephdapro, he just said that if you copy content from FANDOM wikis they (users from beckrooms FANDOM wiki) have a chance of vandalizing. This same user was being reported for copying content on that same page, so it won't be him who will vandalize this wiki, but FANDOM users. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 18:01, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger may have the right of it. In general, it is necessary to know exactly who the someone is and where the threat was made so we (global sysops/stewardship) can assess our ability to address the problem or advise you on the best path. If action is taken against the wiki before you (or anyone locally) has adminship, a request can be made here and as a global sysop, I am capable of addressing vandalism and conduct issues in absence of local management when it is required. --Raidarr (talk) 21:00, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I just need the ability to block them. Considering that they're from fandom, they're probably 12 and don't know how to use a vpn. Sheep42 (talk) 15:05, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There are a few Stewards who have proven active today, so hopefully your election request will be reviewed very soon. In the meantime if there is something to act on, please report, and additionally it would help to know the source of the threat so we can see if something preventative or to clarify the situation is possible.. --Raidarr (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I've seen it here, it looks like John, a steward, has granted you the rights of bureaucrat and administrator on the Bedroom wiki. Do you plan to do something? Thanks. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:59, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * FINALLY! Thank you. Sheep42 (talk) 00:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Grateful. Even so, I would like to know what action you will take against malicious actors. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * jdp here, i pretty much had a similar fight about this whole licensing thing, i suggest you to credit anything taken from other sources if you wanna avoid problems, ok? (sorry for replying a tad bit late)
 * Josephdapro08 (talk) 21:23, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

"Real children feet" wiki should be deleted
This is completely inappropriate and should be deleted, wouldn't you agree? I have no idea how something like this was even approved to begin with:

https://liveactionchildrenfeet.miraheze.org/wiki/Real_Children_Feet_Wiki

--Callipedia (talk) 04:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * We've been getting a lot of complaints about that particular wiki. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:26, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * How was that wiki approved in the first place? -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 16:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Callipedia, this wiki has been reported, arguably verging on the point of ad nauseam. So, I'll ask you the same thing I've asked other users. How is it violation of Content Policy? Dmehus (talk) 16:53, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * No explanation regarding the content policy is needed. If the content policy allows things like this, then the policy itself is what needs to be revised.
 * Beyond that, I'm not going to argue with people defending this out of intellectual dishonesty. If it isn't removed, then I'll be contacting more important parties about it on my own.--Callipedia (talk) 17:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand your dislike for that wiki, and I won't hide the fact that I don't like it either and would not access it myself. That being said, Dmehus is right, in order for us to investigate or delete a wiki, we do need to be told how exactly it violates our policies (or even a UK law, since I assume that is what you are implying). Saying "come on it's obvious" isn't enough, since while it may be obvious to you that doesn't mean it is to everyone. Removals do have to be according to policy, they can't simply be because we don't like something. There is no need to contact 'more important parties', please just tell us how it violates our policies or UK law if that is what you are alleging. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Miraheze was founded on the basis of freedom of expression, and amending Content Policy to encroach on freedom of expression in such a narrowly defined use case would not be appropriate, in my view, and may actually have a "chilling effect" on the Miraheze platform as a whole. If that niche is targeted, what next? Potentially, this wiki could be examined for potential copyright compliance issues, but even still, I would prefer not to delete a wiki for copyright compliance issues, especially when that is not the real reason users have issues with this wiki. In any case, I've examined the wiki on that basis, and did not find sufficient evidence to prove/disprove any missing copyright attribution, as may have existed. Dmehus (talk) 18:48, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * i think some corrupt person approved this wiki Josephdapro08 (talk) 21:26, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There was absolutely no corruption involved. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:27, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey hey hey, none of the Meta admins were corrupt at all. Please remember the Code of Conduct at all times. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:29, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Every complaint I know of on this subject has been a) ambiguous (not citing specific examples of issue), b) moralizing/emotional (again, without citable examples) and automatically assumes the very worst of a wiki (and its entirely nonexistent userbase) that at a content level is suspicious to me from both a) and b), but lacking in usable specifics to take policy-level action against. Having conferred with a few people on this, Miraheze as a platform would rather tolerate things that some, or even a large proportion of people don't care for as long as it lacks explicit issues rather than play gatekeep (especially with already created wikis) which just as easily results in issues on the other side of argument. If you don't like it and you don't have specific citable issues, don't worry about it. At most watch if those suspicions become something more. Today someone acting purely on emotional backlash decided to make an edit against the wiki, which compromises its ongoing fade into obscurity and eventual deletion. Again, don't care for it, let it die. It's silly when the people who so despise it start becoming the people who keep it alive. --Raidarr (talk) 23:42, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Please lock this account. I don't need it anymore. I was also falsely accused of being a "sock" of WG8686.
I don't need this account, lock it right now. That's the only way to delete accounts here. Earthbound (talk) 17:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)Earthbound Earthbound (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


 * You sound incredibly suspicious, and it wouldn't take a genius to figure out that this account is probably just another revived sleeper of WG8686, based on what I am seeing from this thread. If you are indeed him, then please cease this practice at once. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:32, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * In addition, accounts aren't necessarily deleted, unless it is under any normal circumstances, but the fact that you made this request just after Dancing Stickman along with 2 other confirmed sockpuppets of WG8686 makes your request even more suspicious than it already is. I already gave you the option to respond to your talk page for the purposes of expecting an explanation from you. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ John (talk) 18:15, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

sysop
I accidently removed my own sysop permission on. Ora &#38; D (talk) 14:13, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * your access is ✅. I recreated a bureaucrat role for you as a backup, but since the sysop role has managewiki feel free to remove it if you don't want it. Please be careful in design particularly where the  right is concerned. --Raidarr (talk) 19:11, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I would like my account locked please.
I'm doing this because I have a lot on my plate right now and I don't want to become obsessed with this site. I haven't had any incidents or anything, I just want to focus on more important things in the real world. YouKonade (talk) 20:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅. Feel free to message cvt@undefinedmiraheze.org with your account's email if you seek an unlock in the future. --Raidarr (talk) 21:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

== Can you guys remove the reception wikis, since they are biased and they disrespect opinions? And DarkMatterMan4500 is a part of a CP and doxxing wiki, and must be demoted or globally locked on Miraheze... ==


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 * This conversation is not conducive to anything useful. Please take some time to calm down and learn to stop feeding the trolls and to DENY them recognition. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:48, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Steward followup, having intended to address this later myself.


 * There is extremely compelling behavioral association between the style of Meta targeting regarding a specific set of wikis and one user from them. The targeting is performed with similar points, similar destinations to act/post on, and trends of angles to pursue that have become quite predictable. The responsible account is now locked, simply for abuse of multiple accounts. The case is more or less long-term abuse now, particularly in light of an ignored advisory.


 * The user may well not be WG8686 and in fact a 'successor', perhaps the incredibly likely alias Nidoking with associated activity on ShoutWiki. It doesn't matter too much to me, only the actions that have been done. I will accept a sincere attempt to reach out to my Raidarr alias there to discuss things. Otherwise this thread and contributions by its initiating user on Meta are part substance and part exaggerative leaning to slander, with nothing reasonable to discuss in this format.


 * Some point hold up, but as has been expressed countless times before this is not the way to go about it, and indeed the cited instances of incivility have been followed up with advisories. Indeed, local admins of the involved wikis still need work to improve, but that is a process that requires time and patience, and people with an axe to grind seeking to grind it locally and/or on Meta are not useful to that end. Again, I will humor discussion when it is indeed in a more useful format, particularly through the stated wiki's central location. --Raidarr (talk) 23:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Ever since DarkMatterMan4500 had been promoted to leader, he has been harassing and swearing at users via deletion and block logs, and made various rude edits on Crappy Games, Awesome Games, Terrible TV Shows, Best TV Shows, Fresh Websites, and Rotten websites wiki. The wikis are very biased and they are only meant to be for opinion bashing. The admins falsely accuse people all the time and get users globally locked. The fact that you guys hired him and trust everything he says is sad. As DarkMatterMan4500 is a doxxer, a sockpuppeter, and a stalker. I want those wikis off this platform, since they are ruining Miraheze's reputation... TheStrongHulk (talk) 18:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


 * And to DMM4500, you are a criminal for doing this...
 * As for Void, I know you might block me for stating the truth but. DMM4500 also needs to be temporarily blocked for harassment, and he also reverted my edits on the wikis for no reason at all even if it is constructive edits. TheStrongHulk (talk) 19:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * thats not true Gilimaster69 (talk) 19:04, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It is true, you didn't read my thread at all... TheStrongHulk (talk) 19:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The fact that you guys didn't warn DMM4500 in the past for his rude comments here: awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=DarkMatterMan4500&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=
 * Is proving that you guys literally let him be free from the bans TheStrongHulk (talk) 19:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I also forgot, could you guys warn BlaziEye for this rude comment here meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DarkMatterMan4500&diff=238714&oldid=238712 TheStrongHulk (talk) 19:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * If DM4500 removes this thread without a Steward's permission, he knows he's in the wrong in the first place. TheStrongHulk (talk) 20:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Not only are you failing to provide any evidence that you aren't WG8686, but both links you provided don't really prove anything. The first one is vague as on what we should be looking for and the second seems to be more exasperation with you pestering DarkMatterMan4500 over a reverted edit while once again not providing evidence of your innocence. In short, you have no strong argument in your favor. Marxo Grouch (talk) 21:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * 1. Look at his deletion log many of them say "Fuck off" and other rude comments.
 * 2. That breaks Miraheze's TOS though... TheStrongHulk (talk) 21:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Look at this one in the deletion logs on AMW 14:55, 27 August 2021 DarkMatterMan4500 talk contribs deleted page Blog:You're forced to. (Fuck off already.) TheStrongHulk (talk) 21:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * And this one BlaziEye admits for using their users for pages, while harassing me at the same time...
 * Will you STOP THIS already WG8686? You are completely worthless to us, absolutely no one wants you on our wikis at all because we all find you to be insufferably annoying and unintelligent. You are not welcome on our wikis and will never be, so accept it for once in your miserable life. --Blazikeye535 TheStrongHulk (talk) 22:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * And he also falsely accuses me of being WG8686 (A retired editor) TheStrongHulk (talk) 22:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * While I won't try to deny that "fuck off" is rather rude, those statements, from what I'm aware of, are directed at only one user, -abigblueworld-, an actual long-term abuser who is explicitly out to pester DarkMatterMan4500. Given said user's persistence, "fuck off" might have just been DarkMatterMan4500 venting frustration, which is kinda understandable.
 * While Blazikeye535 does have a history of blunt and sometimes rude comments, the fact that you were pestering DarkMatterMan4500 about a reverted edit kinda proves his point about you being an annoyance in addition to you not still not showing evidence that you aren't WG8686. Also, it's Code of Conduct (CoC), not Terms of Service (ToS). Marxo Grouch (talk) 22:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Those are both against CoC though... TheStrongHulk (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Also DarkMatterMan4500 reverted my constructive edits on the wikis for no apparent reason... And he didn't even read it... TheStrongHulk (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


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