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R4356th (Wiki creator)

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 * Successful. John (talk) 18:28, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

User: R4356th ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: I live in Asia and when I visit Meta and look at the Recent Changes feed in the afternoon (usually 1 p.m.), I see several wikis have been requested (in the Farmer log, of course). These wikis usually get created within the next seven hours. I believe that these wiki requests should ideally be reviewed faster. I have read and understood the Content Policy and Wiki Creators' Guide. For these reasons, I believe I will be able to help Miraheze by reviewing requests and creating wikis, and minimising the wiki request response time in the process.

Additional comments: I currently have 1579 global edits, of which 1021 are on Meta (909 of them have been made in the past 30 days). I am a bureaucrat on Snap! Wiki and Batman Family Wiki. I am also active with translating on Meta. R4356th (talk) 20:46, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Questions
 * 1) The problem with the Asian wiki requests isn't so much a time of day issue, but rather, an issue with the poor quality of the Google Translate machine translations. Can you describe how you would overcome this with respect to the Mandarin, Cantonese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese, and Korean wiki requests? Dmehus (talk) 21:05, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I unfortunately do not know any of the languages you have mentioned above. If there are wiki requests in these languages, I would leave them for another Wiki Creator of that language. If they do not review the requests in a reasonable amount of time, I would review them myself after using at least two translating software to translate the description. R4356th (talk) 09:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) In your own words, explain to me each point in the Content Policy. Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 22:00, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have explained the points below -
 * A wiki's main purpose cannot be for commercial activity. Wikis cannot be used for showing advertisements to visitors or users or spamming and search engine optimisation. However, wikis are allowed to have fundraiser-type sales and information regarding commercial activities.
 * Contents in wikis must be legal in the United Kingdom. This means various forms of contraband, content inciting violence and underage nudity cannot be present in a wiki. Additionally, wikis must not have any infringing content copyright.
 * A wiki must not have contents spreading unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against a person or group of people. All contents on wikis must be fairly balanced, meaningful or substantiated with independent referencing.
 * A wiki must not create problems for other wikis. A wiki must not have contents which tend to draw unwelcome attention to Miraheze, for example, hate speech, routine denial of service attacks, excessively violent content, or places in which illegal activity is discussed can create issues for other wikis like domain blacklisting, downtimes, excessive staff time usage and in search engine optimisation. A wiki must also not be an exact duplicate or fork of another wiki.
 * Miraheze has the permission of redistributing a wiki's contents. By hosting a wiki on Miraheze, the wiki founder grants Miraheze a limited, worldwide license to redistribute content from their wiki to the users they permit to access their site and to Miraheze personnel to ensure that Miraheze can provide service.
 * (I have not explained the points "Miraheze may delete unused and empty wikis" and "Public wikis should develop a content policy" because they have nothing to do with wiki creation.) R4356th (talk) 11:51, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments


 * 1)  and I can help you about Korean requests. -- Gomdoli (talk) 01:46, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  Seems valid and non-greed. Waldo (talk) 01:57, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  Reasonable understanding and application of Content Policy. I don't get the best sense how you would action requests with an unclear purpose, scope, and/or topic, but in my discussions with you on Discord and on here on Meta Wiki, you've shown yourself to be both quite receptive and responsive to feedback from others, which is essential. Additionally, your response to my question was quite good and satisfied any reservation I may or may not have had following your initial self-nomination statement. As such, this LGTM, and am happy to support. If your nomination is successful, I will be reaching out to you separately, as I have with and to other successful wiki creators to provide you my usual tips and best practices. Dmehus (talk) 14:27, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  Out of good faith I think this user is worthy of wiki creator --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 5)  Per above HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 18:00, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


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Shaunak Chakraborty (Wiki creator)

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 * No consensus for granting. John (talk) 14:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

User: Shaunak Chakraborty ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: I am here on Miraheze from last 2 years, I'm an interwiki administrator and the owner of the third largest wiki Gyaanipedia on Miraheze. I want to handle especially the Indian wiki requests as the Indian Standard Time differs from another timezone so it will take time for wiki creation. As I told that I am on this platform since more than 2 years so you can trust me.

Additional comments: I have around 4700 global edits on Miraheze and want to serve Miraheze from my heart and get involve here so it's my humble request kindly give me in right. India is having the 2nd largest population in the world so the requests also will be more in number as compare with other countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaunak Chakraborty (talk • contribs) 07:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Questions

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments


 * 1)  Despite India's population being very large, there are not many requests from India. My timezone is just 30 minutes ahead of India and I do understand Hindi enough to review a Hindi request (but not the other languages which are spoken there with the exception of Bengali). And I usually do not see you here on Meta unless you have any issue with any wiki you run. So, I do not know whether to support this or not. But considering you have so many global edits, you may make a good wiki creator. I guess I am neutral for now. R4356th (talk) 11:14, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  While the candidate is certainly active outside of Meta and no doubt very active in adding interwiki prefixes to the candidate's own Gyannipedia network of Miraheze customer wikis to the candidate's own wikis, the lack of Meta activity and activity on Discord precludes me from supporting. That being said, I also don't like opposing candidates I don't know, so  is, for better or for worse, where I have to sit here, as I cannot assess the candidate's understanding of Content Policy. I would point out, though, that as  pointed out, he is from your timezone. Together with him, myself, Naleksuh, HeartsDo, FireBarrier101, Zppix, MrJaroslavik, and other active wiki creators, I doubt you would have to wait more than an hour or two for a requested wiki to be approved and thus created Dmehus (talk) 14:27, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear I completely respect your statement, I knew the Content Policy completely. Although I have less edits on Meta but I truly believe that trust and believe stands more than edits which I gained since last 2 years, as I am an active user and have the largest number of edits on my wiki Gyaanipedia proves that I am a hard-working person. I know this, that I am a responsible person and I can be an excellent wiki creator so I should get a chance. Shaunak Chakraborty (talk) 15:57, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. As I say, I don't have any opposition, but for me, I really can't assess your understanding of Content Policy based on your lack of recent Meta editing activity. Any wiki descriptions for wikis you've requested, similarly, don't give me any idea, particularly as they have been quite short. Not saying you need to have a great deal of Meta editing activity, but just a bit more. I would rather see you engage with an existing wiki creator privately on Discord or IRC over the next month or so, and then have that individual renominate you for wiki creator following that successful mentorship. Dmehus (talk) 16:01, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  would like to see more global activity, first. Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 17:45, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  Waldo (talk) 18:36, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  You have activity globally and I will not contest that, but, if you want to become wiki creator for me, you should have a minimum of activity here in Meta, I don't ask to be a patroller or something that request time, just to be here a little more or you can request a mentorship with a wiki creator as Dmehus says HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 06:27, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  I would like to see you make more global edits and show us you understand our wiki creating policies first before becoming wiki creator --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 5)  I don't know who you are. Gomdoli (talk) 06:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not think that "knowing who a user is" should really influence a vote. You can check the users' contributions and ask them questions so you find out what they are like. DeeM28 (talk) 11:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * 1)  I have only recently became aware of you, as such I can not quite support this request, however I can't oppose it either.  06:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Dear &  I hope you people heard about Gyaanipedia which is one of the largest parody of Wikipedia in the world I mostly contribute there only. Shaunak Chakraborty (talk)
 * 1)  I have said many times before that I do not like discouraging users and so I would not like this comment to be treated as that. I do have some issues that unfortunately do not play in the favour of me supporting this request. First, I agree with R4356th comments above, that as far as I have noticed there are not many Indian requests so saying that you would like to mostly handle those is an issue and would mean you would not be handling many requests at all. I would like to see more about handling wiki requests in other languages, not a complete focus on Indian requests. Second, I do not see why contributing to the Gyanipedia wikis would really have anything to do with a users' notoriety on Meta. Finally it would be a good idea if a user who is more experienced with wiki creating and the Content Policy (I am not) would ask some questions to see your knowledge. I do think that if you are more active on Meta and do show you are willing to engage with non-Indian requests too and that you understand the Content Policy you can become wiki creator at a later time. DeeM28 (talk) 11:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


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Waki285 (Wiki creator)

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 * Successful. John (talk) 14:59, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

User: Waki285 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: I am a Japanese vowel speaker. I have translated Meta and TestWiki so far. Currently, there is only one Japanese wiki creators User:シュヴァルツ, and he hasn't been active for more than a month. For that reason, I made this application because I wanted to process the application quickly.

Additional comments: I read Wiki creators and　Wiki creators guide. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waki285 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Questions
 * Please answer the following wiki request questions in terms of how you'd handle the request (i.e., accept, decline, request more information, or consult with another wiki creator) and why:
 * Request description translates directly from a Chinese variant language, "to expose truth and scandal."
 * A wiki which proposes to compare and contrast extreme political ideologies, including Nazism, Neo-Nazism, fascism, Stalinism, and Communism.
 * Request description reads "Pepelaugh" and sitename reads "Unified Freedom Front of Russia."
 * Request description reads "I want to share information about Grape SMP."
 * Request description reads "Migrating from Fandom over to here."
 * Request description reads "To test MediaWiki" and sitename is the requestor's username.
 * In addition, I haven't seen you on Discord or IRC. Are you on one (or both) platforms? Though not required, it is recommended, perhaps highly, as wiki creator collaboration is essential, and wiki talk page discussions are sub-optimal for quick messages. --Dmehus (talk) 05:22, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Reject as "What truths and scandals do you want to reveal them? And what exactly does it mean to create this wiki? Go back to Special:RequestWikiQueue/(Requests Number) and add content to your request description. Please add. Thank you."
 * Reject as "Why do you do this? And what if those politicians see these things? Go back to Special:RequestWikiQueue/(Request Number) and add them to the description. Please. Thank you."
 * Reject as "What does this wiki do? What is this wiki for? Please explain in more detail. Go back to Special:RequestWikiQueue/(Request Number) and add it to the description. Thank you."
 * Reject as "What does it mean to share the topic of Grape SMP and what content do you want to post? Add it to Special:RequestWikiQueue/(Number). Thank you."
 * Reject as "Please post the URL of the original Fandom wiki. What is the wiki for? Add it to Special:RequestWikiQueue/(Number). Thank you."
 * Guide to TestWiki--Waki285 (talk) 09:04, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Please answer my following questions:
 * In your own words, explain the various points of the Content policy, and why they are important.
 * If you are not sure about how to handle a wiki request, what should you do? Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 17:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * "The primary purpose of your wiki cannot be for commercial activity." ... This is because Miraheze is just a "wiki" service, and spam and commercial use deviate from its intended purpose.
 * "Miraheze does not host any content that is illegal in the United Kingdom" ... These are against not only Britain but also the public order and morals of us humans. Also, in some countries (including the United Kingdom) this can violate the law.
 * "Miraheze does not host wikis with the sole purpose to spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against a person or group of people" ... This creates a situation where if one wiki puts unwelcome content on a wiki farm, other wikis will also be penalized for SEO, domain blacklisting, and system down. In the worst case, Miraheze itself may be seen as evil. for that reason.
 * "Public wikis should develop a content policy" ... This policy is a minimum policy, so it means that you must follow the ones mentioned so far.
 * Let's get back to the beginning and read Wiki creators guide. If you still don't understand, talk to another wiki creator. --Waki285 (talk) 21:51, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments

Support

Neutral/Abstain
 * 1)  ✅. You had a minor error on one question, but mainly relating to your reason not being sufficient; however, I did not deduct any points. You had one question wrong, but you can discuss with me on Discord or IRC which one that is. Other than that, together with your Japanese translation work, you have the shown the capacity for learning and taking advice from more experienced users, which is crucial to me. So, please do consider joining either IRC via IRCCloud or Discord, as I do feel that would be very helpful and mutually beneficial should your wiki creator request prove successful. Moreover, we do need more Japanese speaking wiki creators, so this will be helpful. Dmehus (talk) 14:51, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  You are very active on Meta and we need Japanese Wiki Creators because of the number of Japanese Wiki requests. I also noticed that you joined IRC yesterday. R4356th (talk) 15:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 3)  Although I have a few concerns I am going to support this out of good faith I am still willing to support this, and think with your 2 years of being at Miraheze you can handle being a wiki creator --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:45, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 4)  Active user here on Meta, and we need more Japanese wiki creators. HeartsDo (Talk || Global || Wiki Creator) 16:11, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 5)  Waldo (talk) 16:52, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 6)   06:48, 1 December 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * 7)  Pretty decent overall.   Circley  Does Extracter    ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud )  02:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * 8)  User shows in depth understanding of global policies, including the Content Policy. Justarandomliberal (talk) 09:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * 9)  At first I hesitated to support this request because while users above say that the user is very active on Meta from what I can see this activity is in relation to translation almost exclusively. I would have liked to see more interacting with users. The two reasons that convinced me to weakly support are the following. First, I do agree that there is a need for more Japanese speaking wiki creators because of some departures. Second, I think that the responses given to the various questions were satisfactory and do demonstrate an understanding of the Content Policy. I would still prefer that the user focuses on the Japanese requests for a initial period of time and after he/she gains experience they could also assist with other languages. DeeM28 (talk) 11:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) I’m kind of torn in the middle here. Activity and policy knowledge is there, but I am still not quite sure I can vote either way yet. Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 00:24, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Oppose


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