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Protection
How do I protect pages so that custom-created user groups/non-protected priviledge can edit? On TestWiki, you can protect it so that only bureaucrats can edit it, but I don't know how you can do that, especially since that you can only protect it to only users, autoconfirmed users, or admins. InspecterAbdel (talk) 15:19, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

✅. Additionally, I also added the three MediaWiki interface messages for you, so you wouldn't have seen text like  and   Dmehus (talk) 06:45, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel This requires a Phabricator request, though I can do it for you if you want, as it requires setting up restriction levels (which aren't configurable in ManageWiki) in  in the GitHub repository. What do you want for the name of the user right for the restriction level (i.e., like   for   users)? Dmehus (talk) 15:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I want 2 editstuffs: I want  and   InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:06, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Edit official is for Co-Creators and Edit Archive is for bots and Co-Creators InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel Okay, I'll try and add those restriction levels today or tomorrow for you. Which wikis? Once they've been created, you can assign that user right to whichever groups you want in Special:ManageWiki/permissions. Dmehus (talk) 16:20, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Today, on Naasgamelandwiki. InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I'll try working on that today. Dmehus (talk) 16:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * How long does it take to update the GitHub repository? InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:21, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, not too long, but I do have other requests and things to do today, but rest assured, I'll get to it today or tomorrow. Dmehus (talk) 16:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:51, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yay, replying works, but about Phab, I might not get my own account until I have my own Gmail. InspecterAbdel (talk) 16:56, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you add it now? InspecterAbdel (talk) 13:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * hello? InspecterAbdel (talk) 11:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll try and get to this today or tomorrow, but it is just an extra protection/restriction level, so not a high priority, as the existing protection/restriction levels do work well. This is more of a nice to have, but I will definitely get to it. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 13:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :D InspecterAbdel (talk) 14:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * When you are done adding it, ping me. InspecterAbdel (talk) 14:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Will do. It's on my list of things to do today. Dmehus (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you do it yet? InspecterAbdel (talk) 14:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Not yet, been quite busy, but I will, and will ping you here when it's finished. Dmehus (talk) 14:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, if you haven't done it now, why don't you go do it right away? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel Though I believe you've no doubt seen that this was completed, I just wanted to update this thread to note that this was

Permission Help
Hi please I want a System admin to help deleted the extended confirmed user group in my famepedia wiki from the backend and its impossible for me to delete from over here. I wanna recreate it cuz I'm having some conflicts. Ugochimobi (talk) 21:58, 23 April 2021 (UTC) ✅. Additionally, I also added the three MediaWiki interface messages for you, so you wouldn't have seen text like  and   Dmehus (talk) 06:56, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi We've just completed the addition of the restriction level, so I'm not sure why you're wanting to delete either that or your extended confirmed users group. Instead of proposing to delete something that was only recently added, can you instead describe what issue(s) you are having? The reason I ask is because I've tested protection on both wikis, and did not encounter any issues. Dmehus (talk) 22:18, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Am I confused?.., Lol I actually want the user group to appear like  but the name should be   Do you get me?  Ugochimobi (talk) 22:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Oh, yes, I see what you mean, and I wondered if you intended for  to contain an initial capital letter or not. This can be changed if you really want, but the group name should not contain spaces and, ideally, underscores as well. If you just want to change the displayed name of the group, you would just define that with MediaWiki:Group-Extendedconfirmed and MediaWiki:Group-Extendedconfirmed. In the page text, you would type:  . I can create them for you if you want. Dmehus (talk) 23:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I want the page text to be  but I want the internal name to be   without any capitalization. for example,   for   Ugochimobi (talk) 19:31, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Oh, okay. You can take care of the page text with the above-noted MediaWiki interface messages, though I would recommend, strongly, an initial character of the first word capitalized. And you can't delete the user group in ManageWiki? I mean, yes, I get the idea of wanting to delete and recreate that group, but it will mean another GitHub PR on the one wiki (the other wiki it's not capitalized). Are you still needing template editor protection as well, or do you think you might not need that at the moment? Dmehus (talk) 19:44, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. Just let go of the group. Yes i need the    protecton for both wikis.  Ugochimobi (talk) 19:51, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Though I believe you've no doubt seen that this was completed, I just wanted to update this thread to note that this was
 * Thanks very much man... I was a bit busy I think I just noticed... Many thanks Ugochimobi (talk) 07:00, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Dmehus (talk) 14:22, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

IP Editing
I have added the writeapi and createpage permissions to the  group and IPs still can't create nor edit pages in FAMEPedia. Please help Ugochimobi (talk) 08:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Is  permission enabled? Writeapi has nothing to do with editing or creating pages. Have you also verified that the codes you added are not in the $wgRevokePermissions variable? --Anton (talk) 09:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have the  permissions enabled and how can I know which permission is revoked? Ugochimobi (talk) 10:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I checked your wiki settings (ListGroupRights) and there were no revoke permissions. They would have been pulled over ( this way ). However, I logged out, and at least I would have been able to create a new page on your wiki. Anton (talk) 13:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh. Ugochimobi (talk) 15:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just a side question, how do you "revoke" permissions for certain groups? I've never seen an option for that in the user right settings. Turtle84375 (talk) 19:16, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * $wgRevokePermissions ​means the right revoked ​from the user. For example, if you don't want administrators to be able to block users anymore, you would do it this way: . But also   working. --Anton (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Turtle84375 Do you mean revoke the ability for certain elevated groups to manage lower groups? Or do you mean removing user rights from a group? Both can be done in Special:ManageWiki/permissions, albeit it in different tabs. Dmehus (talk) 19:22, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind, though, some user rights can be removed from certain groups in ManageWiki, they're actually hard-coded, for technical or security reasons, to the  user group in  . These are typically rights all users need to manage their own preferences and personal options. Sometimes user rights are blacklisted from   (i.e., interface administration-related rights). Dmehus (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm referring to this page, where it says (in the legend) that "Revoked right" would be indicated with a strikethrough. But is there even a ManageWiki setting to do that with? Or is that something, as mentioned, that you would configure in the wiki's configuration code? I've never seen a user right crossed out on that list before, so I'm doubting if it's even a usable thing. Just curious. Turtle84375 (talk) 19:56, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you have  set to , or the EditSubpages extension enabled on your wiki? Both of those  either (a) preclude anonymous users from editing or (b) cause a conflict that precludes anonymous user editing. Dmehus (talk) 14:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know if  is set to true and I don't have the EditSubpages extension enabled. Ugochimobi (talk) 15:24, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions/* and add "edit" and "create". — Mario Mario  456  14:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have that already and it's still not working tho Ugochimobi (talk) 15:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi I can edit logged out on this page (if I wanted to). So I'm not sure why you can't. It seems to be either a page-specific protection issue. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi Oh no, nevermind, I can't, per, "You must confirm your email address before editing pages. Please set and validate your email address through your user preferences." So, yes, you'll need to either (a) disable  in Special:ManageWiki/settings, or (b) just effectively disallow anonymous user editing. Dmehus (talk) 15:30, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Okay I'll do that now Ugochimobi (talk) 15:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good. Dmehus (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki interface question
How do you change the text when you use "More" I found MediaWiki:Delete, MediaWiki:Protect, MediaWiki:Move, but they don't do anything. I even tried to test it using my now-locked AppleCrunchy sock back in September 2020, and it still didn't work. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Add &uselang=qqx to the url of the page and you will see the names of the system messages. You can edit them when you have admin rights, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 22:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean exactly? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:05, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you follow the link and read the online documentation of system messages? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The name of the messages is vector-action-move etc. depending on your skin, so MediaWiki:Move has no effect on the text of the dropdown-menu "More" --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, but what does MW:Move even do? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 22:40, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no clue where this system message is used in the Mediawiki software, I am still looking in the documentation but I could not find a list which system message is used where, maybe you are lucky, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 05:23, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Is there a way to hide the "Add as foe" button on SocialProfiles?
They can't be disabled due to limitations, but I question if there is a way to hide the link because they're forbidden on many of my wikis. — Mario Mario  456  21:17, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You can hide the button via CSS in the MediaWiki:Common.css e.g.  but be very careful when editing the MediaWiki:Common.css, maybe you try first   first to check if the right parts are affected,   is a very dangerous action in the MediaWiki:Common.css, if you enter this without selector your wiki is gone for good unless a global steward helps you out --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 22:12, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily Interesting, but when you say "your wiki is gone for good," in what way? I don't doubt that, as you're quite knowledgeable when it comes to CSS and JS, but I'm just wondering if it would be a technical issue that require system administrators to handle with a maintenance script or database edit. Dmehus (talk) 22:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It would result in the entire wiki interface being hidden, which would make it impossible to edit without either using the API or just disabling the styles using the browser devtools. Nothing that would require sysadmin intervention to fix. — Arcversintalk 02:54, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I accidentally added following code to the common.css, which resulted in a blank page when I accessed the wiki. Is there a way to deactivate the common.css? I had to rename the common.css in the database to get my wiki working again (not on Miraheze), maybe there was an easier way, I would appreciate it to hear from that, thank you, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 10:24, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's possible to use the browser developer tools (through the inspector) to disable specific css rules until a reload, which would let you edit the common.css in order to fix it. — Arcversintalk 18:14, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for clarifying. I was having trouble visualizing what the solution would be, so in that case, it may not even need a Steward; rather, it just needs someone with the necessary local permissions to edit via the API or just first disabling their web browser's CSS/JS. Dmehus (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I did not know this browser extension, I am glad that there is a simpler solution than manipulating the database if one has messed up the commons.css oder any other CSS-Page of the wiki, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:41, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I found a way to hide it, just blank MediaWiki:User-add-foe InspecterAbdel (NLW) 13:35, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This is definitely the best way, which wiki are you talking of? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 14:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "Which wiki"? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There is only one minor issue with blanking the MW page, it gives you a weird "| |" in social profile. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:13, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

The Monaco Skin
Why doesn't Miraheze have the Monaco skin. It is a skin that was used by Wikia for a short period of time and is now used by ShoutWiki. If you were on FANDOM in 2010 you might remember the whole “Monaco vs Oasis” debacle. Since Miraheze made a custom version of Oasis (Cosmos), I think that they should use Monaco or make a custom version, as it is a very popular skin. Here is an example of what it looks like on a wiki that uses it: http://awa.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Anti-Wikia_Alliance&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:16, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. Miraheze did actually have Monaco for a short period of time but it was removed as it is not compatible with the newest versions of MediaWiki and also unmaintained. The skin similar to Oasis called Cosmos was not technically made by Miraheze, but by a volunteer and former sysadmin, Universal Omega. Perhaps he might be interested in doing something similar for Monaco, but that's for him to say. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 16:26, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. I would like to see a custom version of that skin for Miraheze, since it is a good skin and is used by ShoutWiki, who uses MediaWiki 1.34, which is just two steps behind (ShoutWiki has not been in active development for a while and seemed to be partially abandoned by staff, though staff has come back. ShoutWiki also has less SEO than Miraheze, and Miraheze seems to be more popular nowadays. Since ShoutWiki seems to be in a bit of a pickle now with their Wiki Creation broken and partial dormancy, it would be nice for Miraheze to adopt Monaco, since if ShoutWiki closes the Anti-Wikia Alliance would have to move here, and they would want to have the Monaco skin as it was the whole Monaco vs Oasis thing that started the Anti-Wikia Alliance. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to note now that you brought this up, I do plan to fork the Monaco skin and get it working and hopefully deployed on Miraheze soon. Thanks for bringing this up! 16:48, 8 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * Blubabluba9990 thank you for raising this. Universal Omega, thank you for looking into forking this. Separately, would you mind fixing your signature, as it's incompatible with DiscussionTools? I believe the issue is your  tags need to be inside the wikilinks, not outside. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:53, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hello, though I'd give you an update on this, I have successfully done some major cleanup to Monaco on my own fork of it, and successfully got it to work on MediaWiki 1.35 and MediaWiki 1.36. Once I finish a few additional testing I will open a task on Phabricator for deployment of the skin on Miraheze. Thanks again for bringing this up, as I also like the Monaco skin and it will be great to have deployed on Miraheze. 16:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * I have now deployed Monaco on Miraheze. It can be enabled from the "Skins" tab of Special:ManageWiki/extensions now. 03:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |

Hello
Just created a list of Avengers enemies on dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org. --Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:31, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Login error
Hi, I'm LucianoTheWindowsFan. I tried editing on the Crappy Games Wiki, but when I submitted it, it says that it cannot be done due to a session loss. I tried logging out of this wiki but it says invalid CSRF token. I tried logging out of the Dr. Mario World wiki and it worked, but when I logged back into not only the previous wiki but also the Miraheze meta itself, I get a "cancelled to prevent session hijacking" error. How can I fix this problem? LucianoTheWindowsFan 23:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * LucianoTheWindowsFan, can you please go to Special:UserLogin on Loginwiki in incognito mode, then go to Special:UserLogout on the same wiki and also in incognito mode. Once that's done, delete all your cookies for  and any custom domain wikis and return to regular web browser mode, going to Special:UserLogin again. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 23:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I removed all the cookies in normal mode and Voilà! Now it works fine! LucianoTheWindowsFan (talk) 23:18, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * LucianoTheWindowsFan ✅. I've redacted your IP address. If you edited on any other wikis logged out and would like those redacted, too, please e-mail . Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 23:20, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

CSS
Hello, how do I customize my wiki sidebar? I want to add a background image. SecretSpyer (talk) 04:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, please add following lines to MediaWiki:Common.css:
 * Thanks. --Anton (talk) 07:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It didn't work. See this. SecretSpyer (talk) 15:55, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * SecretSpyer It might be helpful if you were to consider granting Anton  on your wiki, at least temporarily, as he might be better able to debug this for you that way. Dmehus (talk) 15:58, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:00, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:00, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, I just realize I can't grant a user who hasn't registered yet in my wiki. I tried, but the system failed me. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:05, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Now you should be able to do it if you want. I’ll be happy to help you, and you can grant me the right one day to research it better on your wiki. Thanks. Anton (talk) 16:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I granted you, admin, and interface admin. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:17, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. The problem with what you said above when you didn’t make it work is that the image given above cannot be added. Probably because it lacks a file format. I saw the Miraheze logo with a file format (png) at the end. You have to take another picture and add it in the same way as I advised above. Also, MediaWiki:Sidebar was missing from your wiki (and then I didn't get anything visible), so I created it. I just posted a message on your talk page about the same thing. Currently, Sidebar does not have a background image, for the reason mentioned above. Anton (talk) 17:21, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course this is not working, and you need no admin rights to figure out . My first guess is always copy the url of the image to the browser address field and you will see the extension of the file is missig a "g" in the end, "jpg", not "jp" --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 05:28, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * . I know yes. I don't want instructions. --Anton (talk) 06:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And this was not about that image. (IMac_Early_2021.jpg). Anton (talk) 06:42, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sry, forget my post pls --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 06:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * and, problems solved, Is it possible to add a wiki background usng CSS? Thanks SecretSpyer (talk) 14:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can do it. Background color or image? Anton (talk) 15:21, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just set the background color to space gray. SecretSpyer (talk) 15:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Question
Who likes fanfiction?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 00:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Me! Wiki JS   talk  15:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, I created fanfictionstories.miraheze.org not that long ago. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 19:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That’s very cool Wiki JS   talk  23:55, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You can contribute if you would like to? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 23:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Bots
How do you program bots? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 13:41, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * InspecterAbdel This is an advanced, broad question not ideally suited for community noticeboard. You would be better off joining us on IRC in the or  channel with specific questions related to this. To start you off, I would just refer you to Manual:Pywikibot on MediaWiki.org. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Annoying error
I was importing templates from templatewiki, and I turned on TemplateStyles, but the template documentation gives me an error saying "Page Module:Documentation/styles.css must have content model "Sanitized CSS" for TemplateStyles (current model is "plain text")." How do I fix this? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:36, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Easy fix. On the page where the error is referring to (in this case, Documentation/styles.css, I'm assuming), click "page information" in the sidebar, locate the row labeled "content model," and click "change." Sanitized CSS is one of the options that appears. If you let me know what wiki this is on, I can do it for you :) Turtle84375 (talk) 04:07, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that helped. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 13:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Turtle84375 (talk) 00:32, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

A request to Twinkle
Can anyone add a RFPP to the twinkle code? I tried to request that Trust and Safety be protected, but there was no option. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:42, 10 May 2021 (UTC)


 * InspecterAbdel I don't think that's required. Page protections can just be requested at Administrators' noticeboard. In this case, though, with no vandalism on that page, I don't think page protection is required at this time. I mean, we could potentially protect it at, to be proactive, but I do prefer to wait until actual vandalism or abuse occurs when implementing protection. Dmehus (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * But isn't it a business page like Terms of Use? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It is, but it's not really a policy page. It's more of an informational supplement page. I will check with Owen and see what he prefers, though. Dmehus (talk) 18:49, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, and can you help me with the problem above? (Annoying error) InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

A little question
I was working on the mh:upsettingtoys:Upsetting Toys Wiki and while I was changing the extensions, I tried enabling the "Template Upload" extension but I found out the extenstions were changed so I want to see how can I still use them. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 18:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello
What new Miraheze wikis are you guys going to create?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 00:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm thinking of making a wiki about all of the .io games, combining them all into one information source, but separating them by namespace. I'm just trying to gauge potential interest in that type of wiki. Turtle84375 (talk) 04:09, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oof, but someone beat me to it. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:22, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was just going to say, I'm pretty I saw a repository wiki about  games recently. ;) Dmehus (talk) 18:47, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hm. Back to the drawing board, then. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hrm, yeah, maybe, but I mean you could potentially engage with that wiki bureaucrat with your ideas, and I'm quite certain they'd be amenable to the two of you serving as co-bureaucrats in building that wiki. Basically, two heads are better than one? :) Dmehus (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that could work. I'll check with them :) Turtle84375 (talk) 19:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good. :) Dmehus (talk) 19:34, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

How do you make a multilanguage wiki?
I know there are some tutorials but I just can't understand them. For example, why can't miraheze just make an "add new language" button on the left side? I'm struggling hard now, please help me, thx! Tenkafuma (talk) 11:38, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There is an extension called Translate for this purpose and with this you are able to have translated pages like Meta does. For an example of how that works you can see the Main Page here. --DeeM28 (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I know the translate template but I'm confused by the steps. It said that I needed to download or change the localsetting thingy, but how do you download miraheze? My mother language isn't English so maybe it's my bad for misunderstanding. But, again, can't miraheze just simply make an "add new language" button on the left side in default? Like the wikipedia. Tenkafuma (talk) 12:13, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It is also worth considering the introduction of the ContentTranslation and UniversalLanguageSelector extensions in this regard. You can also see these on Wikipedia, and they usually come from Wikidata, which requires the extensions WikibaseClient and WikibaseRepository, among others. WikibaseRepository comes in a repo wiki (like Wikidata), and a WikibaseClient client wiki (like English Wikipedia for example). As far as I know, the Translate extension alone has nothing to do with the sidebar. Anton (talk) 12:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Again, ContentTranslation needs to install, but the next question is how to download miraheze? It's confusing. Tenkafuma (talk) 13:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Tenkafuma Well, the "add new language" is for interlanguage wikis&mdash;that is to say, one language per wiki. You asked about a multilingual wiki, for which DeeM28 appropriately recommended the Translate extension. Regarding extensions and configuration, that's the danger in relying on MediaWiki.org extension documentation on Miraheze. In most cases, you can configure extensions on Miraheze in ManageWiki, a Miraheze-developed extension for wiki management. ContentTranslation can be requested, and I thought about requesting that actually. If something can't be configured in ManageWiki, you can request on Phabricator for a system administrator to configure it for you in  on GitHub. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thx for your help, I guess I'll just make them separately. One language per wiki seems to be the only solution.Tenkafuma (talk) 02:17, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, there's pros and cons to both. Feel free to explore Meta Wiki's various content pages in both  and   namespaces to see what is possible with a multilingual wiki using the Translate extension. I do tend to prefer multilingual wikis. Alternatively, explore &mdash;revi's Revi HQ for an example of a multilingual wiki (in practical terms, it's a bilingual Korean and English wiki) without using the Translate extension (i.e., translated subpages are manually created and translated, with a common template footer added to each page). See also MacFan4000's related point on the streamlining related to the Translate extension coming with MediaWiki 1.36. Dmehus (talk) 14:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Templates
Does anyone know how to create navboxes like the ones on Wikipedia?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 19:57, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You need to use Special:Import to import Template:Navbox from Wikipedia, with "include all templates" checked, and you also need to enable the "Template Styles" extension in ManageWiki. Once you do that, you can create navboxes using the template. — Arcversintalk 01:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Wiki inactivity signs
I have noticed that every time a wiki gets closed, it will say “This wiki has been closed because there have been no edits for the last 60 days” even if the wiki was closed by a local bureaucrat and a steward. I think that the sign should be changed so that if the wiki was closed either by a local bureaucrat or steward it would give the latest ManageWiki log, like with deletion and protection logs, so that it would be easier to tell exactly why the wiki was closed. There is also another thing: Is there any specific time when an inactive wiki gets deleted? The sign says “6 months” but it seems to take longer. Atrocious YouTubers Wiki and Toxic Fandoms & Hatedoms Wiki, for example, have been closed since September 6, 2020 and have not yet been deleted. Despite this, the exemption policy lists a specific amount of days. There seems to be a lot of grey area regarding that. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Blubabluba9990 Non-exempt wikis are marked as deleted automatically after 180 days since the date the of the last RC edit or log action, excepting some actions like global renames and CentralAuth automatic user account creations. Alternatively, if a wiki is manually closed, then they are marked as deleted after 135 days since the date of last RC edit or log action. The wikis you refer to have not been deleted yet because of certain extension-added user rights that still allow users to perform certain actions. Thus, I plan to discuss with the Steward team about manually marking the wikis for deletion. Dmehus (talk) 01:14, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Wiki promotion
I hosted a wiki called Macintosh Database for everything Mac, from small to big. And the only editor is me, so I feel kind of boring doing this alone. That's why I promoted here if that is not against the rule. Vist here. SecretSpyer (talk) 04:32, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Noone will edit in your wiki when every change is sent to moderation. I also recommand to create Edittools for easier editing, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 06:33, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily does make a good point on the Moderation extension. It's a great anti-spam tool, but really should only be used where your wiki doesn't require a lot of editing and where spam only accounts getting past the global abuse filters are a problem. You might also try the StopForumSpam extension instead. Dmehus (talk) 07:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. I lost some edits made by other users, where can I find the patrol panel and how do I disable it. SecretSpyer (talk) 16:06, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe patrolled edits are enabled by default. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Can you clarify this a bit? Dmehus (talk) 16:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , never mind by the lost edit part, how do I disable the moderation extension? SecretSpyer (talk) 16:18, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, you mean the Moderation extension? Go into Special:ManageWiki/extensions, "Anti-Spam" tab, and uncheck the box. Before you do that, though, you may want to remove the extension-added user rights from all groups listed in Special:ListGroupRights. If you search for "moderation," that should cover them all. Dmehus (talk) 16:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Would anyone like to join Allpedia?
Allpedia is open for users to edit, create, articles, and contribute. Please join! SoyokoAnis 12:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Notice!
Please I made a request on Phabricator here on this task Please let a SysAdmin respond. Ugochimobi (talk) 13:40, 12 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Ugochimobi There's no need to cross-post this to community noticeboard. SRE will respond within a day or two generally. In fact, Reception123 has already ✅, and the extension request has been declined due to insufficient monetary and server resources. Dmehus (talk) 13:46, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh. Thanks Ugochimobi (talk) 13:49, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please check FAMEPedia the Creative Commons Logo isn't showing again, it is showing the text instead.. why? Ugochimobi (talk) 13:52, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It loads for me. I can't reproduce this. Perhaps try clearing your web browser history/cache? Dmehus (talk) 13:59, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay.. You're awesome. Thanks Ugochimobi (talk) 14:10, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Cartoon Fatness
What happened to the Cartoon Fatness wiki? Did it got taken down because it had not encountered the guidelines? I recall seeing a URL for that domain almost a year ago. Is it from the fact Bigcartoon.org exists? Most likely since Fandom shut down their version back in January 2019 I think. 2607:FB90:AA7D:D4EF:FD11:F393:E7D:708A 20:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC)


 * 2607:FB90:AA7D:D4EF:FD11:F393:E7D:708A Do you recall what the web address URL was for this wiki? Most likely it was deleted per Dormancy Policy, but without the web address URL, I couldn't be certain as to why it's no longer available (i.e., if that's the reason or not). Also, was it a public or private wiki? If the former, there's likely an XML dump available on The Internet Archive. Dmehus (talk) 21:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

DC and Marvel Comic Book wiki
Who's interested in contributing to https://dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 23:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Miraheze
Please can you help me set up Google API for FAMEPedia, FAMEData?? Ugochimobi (talk) 09:09, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Are you perhaps referring to setting up the search engine so you're wiki results can show on google? if so I can help you with that I have done it before. --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 02:01, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay how?? Ugochimobi (talk) 07:01, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * how sir? Ugochimobi (talk) 07:34, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for the Delay if you look at this article it should help you index and add your wiki content to goolge however if you still do not get it ping me --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 12:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay checking that now.. Ugochimobi (talk) 15:22, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have actually verified the ownership of the urls before now Ugochimobi (talk) 15:35, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, do you have the URL Verified For you're wiki? Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:39, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Translate parser function not working
the and  parserfunctions aren't working for FAMEData Ugochimobi (talk) 12:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, it does appear to be working, but with something like your main page, you are using lots of templates. With templates, if they are translatable, they need to be loaded inside of Template:TNT (although that won’t be needed in MediaWiki 1.36). Currently, without Tenplate:TNT you will see raw translate tags. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 13:15, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * they're loaded inside of Template:TNT you can check the source code to confirm Ugochimobi (talk) 14:57, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Looking again, it looks like you didn't mark any of the pages for translation. You can do that using the link at the top of each translatable page. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 17:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay lemme try that. Ugochimobi (talk) 07:02, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It worked thanks! Ugochimobi (talk) 09:07, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Main page help
Hello, Miraheze users,

Can someone make me a main page for: https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page to be copied to an offsite wiki that looks better then the one I have. Thinking of having a highlighted pages box, the backstory of the world, link to recreant changes and whatever you think would look nice. Color wise, want it to fit into the new Vector colors.

Looks wise, inspired by Wikipedia main page if possable, unless you have another idea, as I am open to other ideas. I would rather find a way to do it with CSS over templates if possible.

Thank you for your time. TheBurningPrincess (talk) 12:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Help based on Statement
Hello, on FAMEData adding statements to an Item seems to work for me but don't work for some users, I don't know what the issue might be, whether it's userright restricted but some administrators also cannot add statement, Can't just figure out what the issue is. Please help fix this, I dont know if this is a bug or something. Ugochimobi (talk) 16:13, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * You can always open a task on Phabricator. Bukkit (talk) 16:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, it depends on if it's a technical issue that requires a configuration change or is a bug report. If it's just a user right configuration or something that can be done on-wiki in any way, this is the best venue, as the Phabricator ticket will be closed as invalid. Dmehus (talk) 16:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * so please how can it be resolved please ? Ugochimobi (talk) 22:10, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ugochimobi I'm not too familiar with the Wikibase extension, so haven't looked it into too much. Perhaps someone else will be along shortly to help you out? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:21, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay... Ugochimobi (talk) 07:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well true. Bukkit (talk) 16:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay Ugochimobi (talk) 16:34, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey
What are barnstars?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:07, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Barnstars --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 18:52, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:53, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Encyclopedia
Who would like to see a miraheze wiki based on Wikipedia in the future?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 21:04, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * It's already existing tho Ugochimobi (talk) 22:09, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm believe Allpedia is quite similar to Wikipedia. Turtle84375 (talk) 05:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Editing the small copyright notice
Hello. I did like to have a question about the MediaWiki namespace. Is there any page on MediaWiki namespace to edit the copyright notice at the end of a page? Original content of that page look like this: "Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) unless otherwise noted." Could you find it for me? '_' Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:59, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Are you wanting to change your wiki's copyright license from the default and, in turn, the footer message, or are you just wanting to modify your copyright message? One can be done with an interface message; the other requires a Phabricator task. Dmehus (talk) 04:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The wiki's default copyright settings can be changed in the settings section edit --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 04:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Lily, I'm definitely aware of that setting, but I also know that a Phabricator task is required to change either the "Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) unless otherwise noted." footer text or CreativeCommons copyright logo at the bottom of every page on a given wiki, so am not actually sure what that Special:ManageWiki/settings variable actually sets. Dmehus (talk) 12:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Changes the copyright message. My wiki is just a fan-made wiki. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 08:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Use MediaWiki:Copyright. SoyokoAnis  12:49, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Multi language for user template
I'm going to use the  template on the   with two version of language, since my native language was Vietnamese. But I don't know how to do this. Could you help me out with this? (Got idea from Dmehus) -- Song Ngư MGR (talk) 14:51, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, perhaps this should help. --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 14:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Having some trouble with posting on User talk pages on the, a wiki I self-requested, self-approved and self-created:
Every time I want to post something on my talk page, I am greeted with this error:. I don't know how I'm supposed to make that error disappear. Could anyone help me with that? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:44, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * For the extension errors, you should send this as a Task to Phabricator. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 06:39, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Before filing a task on Phabricator as suggested above, I'd like to test and check something first; however, your wiki URL in your section header. Can you please correct this to the correct subdomain? Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 14:05, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll fix that. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:07, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Still wrong. Dmehus (talk) 14:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The sub-domain should be fixed from this section. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Nope, I think there's still a typo. Dmehus (talk) 14:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Whoops, should be fixed now. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Not a problem. Anyway, as I suspected, you removed the  from the   group, which is required for Flow talk page manager, since it's a system user, not a real  . So this is now ✅. Dmehus (talk) 14:27, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, whoops. I'll remember what I do in the future. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:29, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Also, I've noticed that I have exceeded over 1,000 edits here on Meta. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:28, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 14:29, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Hide the administration links on the sidebar
How could I hide the administration shortcut links on an wiki's side bar? Song Ngư MGR (talk) 05:44, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Song Ngư MGR Are you referring to the links that say "Manage this wiki's core settings" and the like? I'm not sure if those can be hidden, perhaps through Common.css or .js it's possible, but if your worried about other users being able to see them, they can't, only users with the  right on the wiki are able to see them. Turtle84375 (talk) 05:57, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * So then, how can I make that list collapsed by default? (sorry if my English is bad) Song Ngư MGR (talk) 06:14, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Song Ngư MGR The extension CollapsibleVector might work for this, I haven't tried it out on any of my wikis, but I would assume it would do the job, if you enable it in your wiki. Turtle84375 (talk) 06:35, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * They can be hidden. Add this to MediaWiki:Common.css:

display: none; } — Mario Mario  456  15:45, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) p-managewiki-sidebar-header {

Major bug with uploading images
On Different History Wiki and Sephspace, I uploaded some images. Unfortunately, I got this message when I tried uploading some of them:

Could not open lock file for "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/4/40/SpongeBob_fan_text.png". Make sure your upload directory is configured correctly and your web server has permission to write to that directory. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:$wgUploadDirectory for more information.

I had no problem with uploading images before, so what happened? Please note that this happened with some other images as well, not just the image mentioned.

Trevor807 (talk) 14:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Trevor807 Sometimes this can be a back end technical infrastructure issue that should be reported on Phabricator. In the case of the file on, I was able to ✅ it as part of troubleshooting this request. Given that this was done with globally assigned user rights, I suspect, in this case, it's likely a local user rights issue whereby you, or an administrator, don't have all needed user rights to delete File: namespace media files or something like that. Dmehus (talk) 15:01, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you know what the file is you're having problems with on Different History Wiki? Dmehus (talk) 15:02, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I've had problems uploading a Sonic fan image on the Sonic fan template. Its name is the same one on SephSpace. Trevor807 (talk) 15:03, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, your issue is with uploading images. That's strange, because I did see the Spongebob image on the above wiki, so it seemed to have been uploaded correctly. Please file a task for this on Phabricator. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The image uploads work fine now. Trevor807 (talk) 15:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's great then. Likely was a strange temporary error, or may have been related to an already reported bug that's now ✅. Dmehus (talk) 15:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not strange nor transient. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  17:30, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I've raised T7287 back to Unbreak now! Icinga shows gluster as crashed on mw8. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  17:31, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For greater clarity, I did note that it was likely one of the above two things. I suspected more likely the latter, and indeed it was that. Thanks for linking the Phabricator task. Dmehus (talk) 17:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you see an error like that and it's not within 1-2 minutes of a wiki being created. It's definitely best to report unless you've seen a Sysadmin acknowledge the icinga alert on irc. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  18:25, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you want to check yourself in future, look for a puppet failure on icinga or 'Check gluster clients' alert. Username: guest / Password: guest (as you know they go to irc too) ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  18:26, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Good afternoon
What new wikis are you guys going to create?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 16:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Something very strange
I just noticed something very strange: https://trashyvyondvideos.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=newusers&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers If you look at the User Creation Log on Trashy Vyond Videos Wiki, it looks like on several occasions multiple different user accounts were all created at the same time. Though this may just seem like a coincidence, I am not sure how 4 different users logged into Trashy Vyond Videos Wiki all at once, and then a bunch of users logged in at the same time two times before. One of these users is Inkster, who is globally locked, so I am not sure how that is possible. Is this like an account creation glitch? Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:55, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


 * It also happened here: https://wretchedyoutubevideos.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=newusers&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:00, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That is likely because someone imported pages from an existing wiki (likely DarkMatterMan4500 if I had to guess), and opted to assign edits locally where the same username/userID existed within the Miraheze user table. Dmehus (talk) 23:02, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It was. I was simply importing pages relating to GoAnimate/Vyond videos from the Horrible Vyonders Wiki, and Atrocious YouTubers Wiki. I also imported a few templates from both wikis as well. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, that makes sense, because I had also seen those users make edits from before their account creation showed up. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:16, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This has also happened on two other wikis: en.gyaanipedia.com and fr.gyaanipedia.com, and I am not sure what either of those wikis are but if one looks at the account creation log in those wikis, the same thing happens, idk if pages were merged there because I am unsure of the purpose of both wikis. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I looked it up it looks like it is some sort of Indian version of Wikipedia even though it is in english and french. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Deleting local accounts
I don't like how the CentralAuth system will automatically create an account every time you visit a wiki, because occasionally if you accidentally click on a wiki it will randomly create an account even if you never intend to use that wiki and just clicked on it. Since there is a way to delete global accounts, I think that there should be a way to delete local accounts, or remove them from the global account. This would be so that a user would not have accounts clogging their CentralAuth, including wikis that they never intend to contribute too. Just look at my CentralAuth, I have a ton of accounts: Special:CentralAuth/Blubabluba9990. This has also happened to stewards and wiki creators if they create a requested wiki, which is why they have tons of wikis in their CentralAuth. Of course, you would have to request for a local account to be deleted because this would only be able to be done by people who can edit a user's global account. There could also be a way for local accounts to be automatically deleted after a certain period of inactivity, like wiki dormancy. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:55, 15 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi,
 * Unfortunately this is not supported by CentralAuth. On your point regarding Wiki Dormancy, if a wiki is deleted for any reason. It will be removed from CentralAuth too. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  06:32, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I know. That would probably be something I would have to talk about with the MediaWiki developers, specifically the ones who developed the CentralAuth extension. Because I have some local accounts that I want deleted, and the only way to delete them would be to delete the wikis I guess. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 14:18, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, technically speaking, local user accounts can be unmerged from a global account, but they can't be deleted. They'd have to be merged into another account and then merged into that separate global account. However, without a very good reason, it's simply not a scalable practice on a wiki farm with ~4,200 wikis and ~125,000 global user accounts. Dmehus (talk) 14:58, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. So if I wanted a local account gone, I would have to create another account and merge the local account into the other global account.
 * Interesting how it is possible to delete global accounts but not local accounts. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:31, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Is there any way I would be able to speak with MediaWiki developers to get them to add a feature to CentralAuth to delete local accounts. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:34, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Something I noticed
I was looking through my CentralAuth page when I noticed that https://miraheze.org is listed as one of my "local wiki" accounts, even though https://miraheze.org is not a wiki... Additionally, the page says that I (somehow) have 28 edits on said site, and am a 'sysop' there. However, when I click on the link to go to the site (which it thinks is a wiki, so it tries to link to a userpage), it brings me to a 404 page. Does anyone know 1.) what this is and/or 2.) how it's possible for me to have 28 edits as a sysop on a non-existent wiki? Thanks! Turtle84375 (talk) 22:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Turtle84375 Yes, that's an anomaly with CreateWiki and the CentralAuth extension and stems from wikis which have been marked as deleted, but which have not yet been purged. You can see a list of all deleted wikis here. When system administrators next run the wiki deletion script, those wikis will drop from your global accounts and, in turn, your global edit count will drop by the requisite number. Dmehus (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * As to which wiki is is, I wouldn't really know, but if I had to guess, do you recall assisting Iron Sword 22 with his former  prior to its deletion? That'd be my leading guess. Dmehus (talk) 22:32, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , that's the explanation I was looking for. I do see a wiki I contributed to but is now on that page, so that explains the edit count and 'sysop' badge. Turtle84375 (talk) 22:34, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad to have helped. It's a good, though niche, question I'm sure others have wondered and will likely find this answer interesting. As an aside, I had nearly 100 deleted wikis on my global accounts page, and lost about 65 wikis in the last deletion batch. :) Dmehus (talk) 22:35, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's gotta be a pain as far as losing all of your local edits, which in turn add up to your global edit count. I guess it encourages you to stay active! ;) Thank goodness Meta's not getting deleted anytime soon. Turtle84375 (talk) 22:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Importing Vietnamese's Wikipedia protection labels
I'm going to import the protection icons from Vietnamese's Wikipedia, but only some commons kind of lock (semi, full, extended, interface, create, move and cascade). Could you list for me things need to import and things need to change before implement that? Thanks. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I would recommend using the interwiki prefix for Vietnamese Wikipedia from your wiki's interwiki table, which includes the global prefixes, and, optionally, assigning edits locally where the same user account exists. Note that you may also want to import only revision from each template, or import each required module and template individually so you don't time out. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 12:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * After doing as you said, plus importing more missing modules and templates, I has added the Lock template to my semi-protected page since it did not embed the template but look likes it still keep saying "This page is protected" - not an thing that it suppose to be. So that's mean I need to adjust few things in the Protection banner's config page, did I need to? Song Ngư MGR (talk) 18:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the message, I figured out the working mechanism of the module and the template. Anyway thanks for helping me. -- Song Ngư MGR (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Infobox trouble
Hi. I'm having trouble with infoboxes in my wiki, senditpedia.miraheze.org. I can't seem to get the infoboxes to appear on the right side of pages. I'm also wondering why the "Script error: No such module "Check for unknown parameters"." keeps popping up. Could someone please take a look and offer some tips? Thank you! Hogan (talk) 14:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * You need the module Check for unknown parameters. For example, you can copy it from English Wikipedia. You can adjust the Infobox location in Common.css on your wiki. Anton (talk) 14:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Anton, thanks for replying. How do I find common.css? Thanks. Hogan (talk) 14:26, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * senditpedia.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css - I haven’t visited your wiki yet, but that’s how it usually should be. Anton (talk) 14:47, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have provided instructions for your wiki. Check them and follow the instructions so the errors disappear one at a time. Thanks. Anton (talk) 14:54, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Hogan (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Request for log deletion
Hello, I'm Kyosu-tanni.

Can you please delete these logs: [ this], this and this? Because a situation that I may be specified as a individual by using these data happened in my real life. Kyosu-tanni (talk) 15:54, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm asking a Miraheze Steward or Global Sysop to delete them.     — Mario  Mario  456  16:27, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Kyosu-tanni I don't see as this requires oversight, as there's no personally identifying information in these logs. In terms of revision deletion, I also don't feel this is needed here. Dmehus (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Kyosu-tanni I could mark these wiki requests as visible to only those with the  user right, though, so only wiki creators could view these wiki requests. Would that work for you? Dmehus (talk) 16:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus Does it mean that only the users who have  right will be able to see the logs? Then, it'll work for me. Thank you! Kyosu-tanni (talk) 12:09, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Kyosu-tanni Only wiki creators will be able to view the wiki requests in question; however, the Farmer log entries would still be visible, as I have talked to Reception123 and neither of us see a justified case for revision deletion. Perhaps if you can clarify your request a bit more, preferably privately off-wiki via direct message to me on either Discord or IRC, we can reevaluate whether there would be a justification here, as even changing the wiki requests' visibility is an edge case certainly. Dmehus (talk) 13:32, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

GDPR
When a user gets GDPR'd, why do we have to hide everything they have? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:39, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The law. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:45, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What law? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 21:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What even is “GDPR'd" and what does that mean. I have seen accounts that will say ”MirahezeGDPR” and then a long string of numbers, idk if that has anything to do with it. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:36, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel The UK Data Protection Act and the EU's General Data Protection Regulation. See my longer reply to Blubabluba9990 two threads below this one. Dmehus (talk) 00:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".
Does anyone know what to do about this error message? I keep seeing on the page Hogan Meyer in my wiki, senditpedia.miraheze.org. Thank you. Hogan (talk) 21:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * It seems to be a missing template, due to the infobox being copied-and-pasted from Wikipedia. Make sure you track down the missing templates. — Mario Mario  456  02:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but do you or does anyone know which template that might be? I feel like I've fallen down the rabbit hole lol. I've created a ton of templates and have no idea if I'm anywhere near the end. Hogan (talk) 04:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Never mind, figured it out thanks to help from User:Anton! Hogan (talk) 15:56, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

A question
I have noticed some users have the username "MirahezeGDPR" followed by a long string of random characters. At first I thought that these were just socks, they seem to be friending each other which makes me think that these are actually different users. And above, I saw something talking about users getting "GDPR'd". What does this mean? Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:43, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Also, some of these accounts are apparently globally locked, but nothing shows up in CentralAuth. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Blubabluba9990 GDPR is an acronym that refers to the European Commission's General Data Protection Regulation. When the UK left the European Union, it adopted similar legislation known as the Data Protection Act of the United Kingdom that is functionally similar to the EU's GDPR. As well, presumably as part of the UK's exit agreement from the EU, UK organizations and companies are required to adhere to the GDPR for European Union citizens/residents. As a UK-based not-for-profit corporation, Miraheze Limited is legally obligated carry out its obligations under both the UK's Data Protection Act and the EU's GDPR. Collectively, "GDPR" commonly refers to both legal regimes. The reasons for the instances you mention can range from Miraheze Limited being legally prohibited to collect personal information from users under a certain age (13) to EU/UK citizens requesting Miraheze Limited remove their personal information. Likewise, non-EU/UK citizens can also request to have their personal information removed, and Miraheze Limited would still oblige their request (although for EU/UK citizens, there are timelines in which the process must be completed and other reporting obligations to the UK data regulatory authority). Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:37, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * While the anonymized account will still be displayed in CentralAuth, the log entries related the account's creation, actions the account performed on all attached wikis, and the account's renaming and anonymization must be removed, hence why you see no rename log entries for the account. Dmehus (talk) 00:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. That makes sense. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:56, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Though the edits by the users still do show up. I guess that means that if a user is under 13 they would be globally locked and then anonymized. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, their edits will still show up, but their social profiles, likely user pages, and user creations and renames should all be deleted. If you happen to find personally identifying information related to the above, you can e-mail  to request oversight. Also, if it's personally identifying information more broadly, you can also request oversight by e-mailing  . Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Question from Rosie
Hi I am Rosie (David Rose) and live in northern NSW, AUstralia.

I am the owner of moma.miraheze.org/wiki/ and I would really love a Mentor to help me set up the new MOMA wiki for a non-commercial community arts project called the Museum of Moving Art.

I understand that PHP basically runs the show - generating the HTML pages to serve to the browser and that it gets data from a ?MySQL database to compile the pages. I was doing HTML when CSS were the new thing but haven't really touched website creation for well over a decade.

I am a good learner and intelligent, but I do have concentration issues (ChemoBrain) and need to take complex new ideas slowly and methodically. My learning would really benefit from a Mentor: someone who is skilled at the structural side of Wikis, who understands how all the elements work together. If I could ask questions about where things are, for example, or am I on the right track, I think I would learn really well.

It seems to me that everything is in pages and templates are pages that work in pages, and that the hierarchical file structure that I learnt when I was making HTML sites back in the day has been replaced by a database of page elements. Museumofmovingart (talk) 07:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Your wiki is private, so nobody can read in your wiki, is this intenional? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 02:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Lily
 * I have been doing a bit everyday and managed to make it public! No it wasn't intentional.
 * Thanks for your interest. I am going to look at Lilypond Wiki.
 * Cheers
 * Rosie
 * Museumofmovingart (talk) 10:25, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * My Lilypond Wiki is German spoken so it maybe this is not much help for you. In this wiki I am publishing English content but this has not gone very far. Feel free to copy any templates or modules you like from any of my wikis, greetings, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 14:41, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Worldbuilding wiki set after a vampire outbreak seeks volunteers to write lore
Hey there my name is Stevie and I'm the organizer of Tarel worldbuilding project. I am seeking writers for my wiki here: https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page to write lore on vampire clans and places. We are building a wonderfully detailed world with highly detailed nations each with their own story. I have been working on this project with some contributors for the past 4 years and we have been have a blast expressing ourselves in this world.

If you want to take part, please contact me on my talk page here: https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:TheBurningPrincess to take part in my world.

Thank you for your time.

TheBurningPrincess (talk) 10:27, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Good morning
How's everyone doing?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 15:02, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Good. — Mario Mario  456  04:45, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Cool. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 14:39, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm doing alright, thanks. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 16:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

User merge request on Synth DIY Wiki
On Synth DIY Wiki please can users Xyzzy, Xyzzp, Xyzzr, Xyzzx be merged into user Plugh they're all user accounts that have been used to check non-admin usability. Rob Kam (talk) 12:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Firstly, this is a Steward request, so should be placed at stewards' noticeboard. Secondly, unfortunately, due to the CentralAuth extension to which Miraheze uses, it's simply not scalable to merge every likely spam only account, due to the number of wikis each account is attached to. Finally, though likely related accounts, we can't be certain of that, either. So, I'm going to have to mark this as ❌, unfortunately. Dmehus (talk) 12:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Preview
How do I add page previews when hovering over a link? This is what I mean: InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Go to your ManageWiki's extension settings and enable PageImage (API) and TextExtracts (Other) then SAVE for the first step. After that, go to Other agian and you should found Popups is enabled for you to activate. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Infobox titles not formatting
Suddenly for the past few days the text in the Infobox template have stopped formatting properly. I've looked at the Module:Infobox but can't see anything different with it, and haven't made any recent changes to stylesheets etc. Not a cookies issue or browser issue. Any ideas on why this is happening? Example of how this looks attached. https://i.ibb.co/FmyKFv8/566f954ed56eba5f2196ea8d36de9340.png Orvakki (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't see any error in that image. So what do you think that Infobox should look like? --Anton (talk) 17:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Its a direct port from Wiki so should look like this (minus photo of Biden which I removed) https://i.ibb.co/CK257tC/1b6795fda9faa1feb72a8c14f37eeb6c.png Orvakki (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC) EDIT: And did look like the above until just the other day. Not sure what changed Orvakki (talk) 18:10, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Well now I see the difference, thanks for the new picture. Something has happened, and I don't know what. Especially when you said you haven’t changed the style sheets. --Anton (talk) 18:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I did a forensic examination and deleted literally every module, template etc involved. It was a problem with Module:Navbar but still strange as it hadn't been edited since January. But thankfully problem solved! Orvakki (talk) 18:46, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Nice to hear that the problem was solved. Good luck and success with your wiki! --Anton (talk) 19:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Protection
Should probably protect this https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/OATHAuth so no gibberish is added.--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 20:18, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Iron Sword 23 Though in cases like this, the vandalism only account/LTA will invariably just move on to another page, I've ✅ this as not a bad idea, particularly indefinitely move protecting that page as a proactive measure against page move vandalism. In future, these sort of requests should be requested at Administrators' noticeboard or on Discord, rather than on community noticeboard. Dmehus (talk) 20:25, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Adding extended user for the protection banner
I have added and deployed successfully the protection banner for my wiki. But there's an new problem. In the function's source codes, there's an protection type called "Extended Protection" that does like the "30/500" type in Vietnamese Wikipedia that I would reduce it to "15/200" for my wiki. How could I add that "15/200" permission as default on my Wiki and how to setup that protection type on the lock options drop-down list? If there's a way to do that, does I need creating a task on Phabricator? Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:04, 22 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Typically, this is done with adding a new protection level, but I'm not sure what you mean by "15/200"? Do you mean just increasing your  implicit user group edits from 10 edits to 200 edits and account age from 4 days to 15 days? Or, do you want a separate implicit user group and protection level? If the latter, please go into your wiki and create a group named , then reply here when it's been done, and I'll do the PR on GitHub for you. Normally needs a Phabricator task, yes, but this will be fine. Dmehus (talk) 02:09, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer for the second one, and I have done that for you. Is there any optional premissions need to be assigned for that group? Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:18, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And for easier access, my wiki database name was lhmnwiki. Song Ngư MGR (talk) 02:44, 22 May 2021 (UTC)