Community noticeboard/Archive 16

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Header Footer Extension
I need help on using Header Footer extension. I followed instructions as appear on MediaWiki.org website. Still, I cannot display them on my wiki. Emad4ald (talk) 09:29, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, what is your wiki's URL and have you followed this? 11:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

How I change blockquote css?
In Editor I put blockquote tag, "" and I want to change this style. Any idea? Bimagv (talk) 07:32, 23 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Can you provide more information, such as a link to where the issue is? Some more details on what you are looking for exactly would be nice too. Thanks, Integer talk 19:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I want to change css for this html tag:  "Mempelajari proses query" . I can't find whereis file css in miraheze. Can you help me? Bimagv (talk) 11:51, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You can add styling for the  tag in your wiki's   page. I hope this helps!  19:30, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Every page has "From "
My wiki (https://dawn.miraheze.org) is showing "From Dawn Project" in every single page since I imported several modules and templates from Wikipedia. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot/solve this. Any guidance is appreciated. Isagani (talk) 17:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Isagani This set by an interface message, and can be ✅ by blanking your MediaWiki:Tagline interface message. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 18:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Request to change the forwarding destination of interwiki links
About usopedia interwiki links The "cw" interwiki link was https://wiki.chakuriki.net/index.php/, but since the site has moved, I want a "cw" interwiki link to change for https://chakuwiki.miraheze.org/. Thank you.

I'm sorry that the English text is difficult to understand because it was machine translated.--虎之介 (talk) 08:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, what is your wiki's URL? I can see three wikis which have the word "usopedia" in your global accounts list, one of which is private. Could you please clarify which one you are talking about? Private wikis need Stewards but public wikis' interwiki data can be changed by Interwiki Administrators. Thank you. 08:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. I will do soon.--虎之介 (talk) 11:44, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It is https://newusopedia.miraheze.org. Please deal with it. I'm sorry to late. --虎之介 (talk) 12:13, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 虎之介 This is now ✅. Dmehus (talk) 13:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

What does "interwiki prefix" on special:import refer to?
Pinsplash (talk) 13:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, what is the URL of the wiki you are importing from? 13:19, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It's http://src-ents.shoutwiki.com Pinsplash (talk) 14:24, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Pinsplash The interwiki prefix is a critically important field when importing pages or templates with Special:Import on wikis. When specified correctly per your wiki's Special:Interwiki table, which includes the global interwiki table from this wiki, it will provide a link to the external wiki's user pages of each of contributors of the revisions from which imported. That wiki isn't in the global interwiki table, so any interwiki administrator or steward can add that to your wiki's interwiki table prior to you importing, if you wish. Dmehus (talk) 15:25, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Requests for interwiki
We need some new prefixes for using. Here are they.

On [//nmfwiki.miraheze.org NMFWiki]:
 * touid
 * fid
 * gid
 * nmfl

On [//mets.miraheze.org NMFLWiki]: (It was for MediaWiki Extensions' Chinese translations before, but we give up building and turn it into another sister project.)
 * nmf
 * dic
 * sou

Thanks, 开炸弹车 (talk) 14:39, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

✅ these for you. Separately, I noticed that your wiki doesn't use the GlobalUserPage extension; however, my user page link was blue. Would you mind deleting the good-faith local user page for me? In practical terms, it becomes very difficult for me to manage my local user pages, so, other than  and , I generally prefer just to have a redlink on wikis without the GlobalUserPage extension enabled. Thanks! Dmehus (talk) 16:27, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 15:25, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have ✅ all interwiki prefixes with the exception of  prefixes which I am not too confident about. I am waiting for someone else to go through these links. In the meantime, could you please check if the prefixes I added are working properly? Please note that I have not checked the   and   flags. Please let me know if you want me to change that. Thank you.  16:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 开炸弹车 I've added the  prefixes above, as NetEase is a major Chinese web portal akin to Sina.com and Sohu.com. It's essentially like the Naver of China. So, I've
 * Thanks a lot. I have deleted the page and enabled the GlobalUserPage extension. --开炸弹车 (talk) 01:50, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 开炸弹车 Oh, ✅. Thank you very much! Dmehus (talk) 01:55, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Issue with the Page Creator source code on the Viva Piñata Gameplay Page Creator.
You see, just days ago, my new wiki was recently created, but I seem to be having an issue with the Page Creator source code. It's not giving me the result I wanted. Is there any way that I could fix this issue? Please feel free to contact me as soon as you can. Thank you. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:07, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Enable the "InputBox" extension in the following location: Special:ManageWiki/extensions. --Anton (talk) 15:16, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, that's right. I totally forgot about that. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:17, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * And it has been ✅. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Great! Now it seems to be working. It was nice to be helpful :) Anton (talk) 15:19, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ I'm glad you could help. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Redirect failure in Risapedia
Risapedia has suffered a failure in the redirects that change the title of the links. For example: If Link 1 were a redirect to Link 2, the title of Link 1 would be "Link 1" and clicking on it sends you to Link 2. But the failure makes Link 1 have the title of "Link 2", as if  had been entered, but only   was entered. Hope someone helps me, because I still can't locate the bug. --Anthony8IA (talk) 22:36, 31 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Anthony8IA I assume you're talking about wiki redirects. Looking at Special:DoubleRedirects and Special:BrokenRedirects on your wiki, I see that you have only three of the former and none of the latter. So, that's great news. If you link to redirects, rather than the actual name of the pages, on your wiki's pages, and you have optional displayed (piped) text, then yes, you will need to also update the piped text when you update the link. This is not a bug, though; rather, it is intended and by design. You can save a bit of typing by using a pipe trick to automatically insert optional displayed (piped) text into the wikilink. Note that pipe tricks only work on wiki pages; not in edit and log summaries. Hope that helps. If I've misunderstood you, please clarify. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 23:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus Thank you for answering my message. And no, that's not what I meant. What I meant to say is that redirects change the link title. If you browse the wiki pages a bit, you will notice some strange links. Taking what I said earlier, redirects cause links to act as if  has been placed, when it is actually  . This problem damages shortcuts and hinders the writing of articles. To put it more clearly, if "PS5" were a redirect to "PlayStation 5", when placing in an article , instead of simply showing "PS5", it shows "PlayStation 5". I hope I have explained myself better. Anthony8IA (talk) 00:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Anthony8IA I'm not aware of this being a bug, but I'm still not quite clear on what the problem it is you're trying to report. Can you link to a specific page on Risapedia, and point out a specific redirect where the problem occurs, please? Dmehus (talk) 00:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus On the main page, in the section "¿Sabias Qué..." In the part where "República de Hisqáida" appears it should only say "Hisqáida" . Anthony8IA (talk) 00:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Anthony8IA . I do see this bug, and indeed, the displayed text of the first linked page is to the actual name of the page, not the linked redirect. I'm unsure if this is a Miraheze-specific configuration issue or an upstream MediaWiki core or extension bug. Given that this bug doesn't apparently occur on the Wikimedia wikis, I'm inclined to believe it is the former. So, could you please create a Phabricator task, clearly defining the problem, linking to the above example page(s)/redirect(s), and highlighting any step(s) to reproduce the issue? Assign the,  , and   projects, and triage the task as normal priority. When you're finished, returned to this thread, and link to the Phabricator ticket number. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 01:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ready Phabricator # T6803 Anthony8IA (talk) 01:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC) Amended to convert external link to an interwiki link and add clarity by Dmehus (talk) on 01:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Anthony8IA ✅. We can follow that task there now. Dmehus (talk) 02:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Upload migration
Good thing that you are migrating to new hardware: happy to hear.

But how we ended up disabling upload that I am not really happy with.

Three questions:


 * 1) Why did Miraheze have to perform this this suddenly, unannounced?
 * 2) Devil's advocate: Universal Omega claimed "emergency" @ Discord (ref) but what kind of emergency?
 * 3) When will it finish? Tonight? Tomorrow? Next Week? Next decade? "as soon as possible" can be next century. You probably need to be more explicit about the ETA.

Communication is even more critical in emergency. If everyone doesn't have full insight on what is going on, it causes frustration for all parties involved.

Users don't know wtf is going on, so they ask the question, and sysadmins are unhappy because they keep getting same questions, and not really everybody reads the previous discussions. &mdash; revi  02:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * –revi I agree it could've been better announced. As far as our deadline goes, our existing server commitment is up on 3 February 2021, thus the urgency. However, Southparkfan is looking into whether we can possibly renew the existing cloud server on a no commitment basis for another month, if we need it. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 02:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I have been blocked
I have been blocked on the wiki Schule der drei Meister. This wiki is private, I can't even read it (except the main page) and have not made a single edit, obviously. So why on earth did they block me? Lily (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 07:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * People sometimes do it to accounts they don't recognise. I wouldn't worry. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Lily Thank you for this request. While it doesn't require attention of global functionaries, largely this is the result of new wiki bureaucrats not being familiar with the fact that users cannot view private wikis unless added to the  group and also not realizing accounts are auto-added by CentralAuth. We could do well to better explain this in FAQ. Nevertheless, I'll try and reach out to the local wiki bureaucrat(s)' via their Meta user talk page and educate them on how private wikis work and that blocking users from private wikis, particularly when the public Main Page is   protected is rather useless. Dmehus (talk) 14:02, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your answers. Afaik blocking does not even prevent a user from reading a wiki, am I right? Is there even a possibility in the MediaWiki software to block a specific user from reading? And even if so, they could just logout, LilyLilyu - smile.svg (Lilypond Wiki · talk to me · little garden · my wiki of everything) 05:26, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you're wiki was not part of a farm, you could make reading require an account and then use $wgBlockDisablesLogin to make it so blocking made the account unusable. For us, the account would have to be locked and the wiki marked as private but 'read' given to users. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  07:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I want to check which feature can I add from this template to tuscriaturas.miraheze.org
I wrote a Phabricator ticket about a Wikipedia template I found, #T6768

The template provides some features for Wikipedia, but is customized. If we change the calls to Wikipedia for calls to Miraheze, maybe we could adapt some of that features to Miraheze? Some are already available. Category tree, Special:AllPages, and Random page are already possible in Miraheze, but category intersection and graphic I think need more work. What do you think? Is it possible to adapt some of these features to Miraheze? Avengium (talk) 19:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * and, do you think putting features like category intersection or graphic is doable or should I forget about it? Avengium (talk) 11:12, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you please share a specific example? Wikipedia can be using templates, interface messages, extensions etc. all of which can be used on Miraheze unless they rely on any (yet-to-be-released) MediaWiki version 1.36 feature. 12:44, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Avengium I don't know what you mean by "category intersection and graphic," so can't really comment at this point on whether it's perhaps requesting either a local Miraheze configuration change or an upstream feature request, as applicable. Can you clarify this just a bit? Dmehus (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ,, the names are names of features used and written on the template at https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Category-article-count. and MediaWiki:Category-subcat-count.
 * Category intersection is what this wiki is using: https://petscan.wmflabs.org/ one of the fields of that form is a "radio button" that says "Intersection" or "Union". That web is accesed automatically with the link on the template named "Intersección". That link is autocompleted to: https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=catscan2/quick_intersection.php&language=es&project=wikipedia&categories=CATEGORYNAME&depth=3&format=html&interface_language=es&norun That gives a feature.
 * Graphic is another feature, this time by: https://iw.toolforge.org/vcat/catgraphRedirect?wiki=eswiki&title=Category:CATEGORYNAME&links=graph. Graphic is a slow page so i think it spends more or make more actions. The graph is like an internet diagram, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_diagrams.
 * In the Miraheze task https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T6768 i tried to explain myself about the features on the template i saw at: MediaWiki:Category-article-count. Avengium (talk) 18:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have not checked PetScan's code but it seems to be using the MediaWiki API. This is possible with JavaScript on wiki pages if you do not want to make an external website (which I would not recommend unless you are familiar with how APIs work). There are examples on MediaWiki.org that you can follow. If they do not help or you think I am misunderstanding your question, could you please post a more specific question? Thank you. 08:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If you do end up deciding you want an external website like PetScan, you could do something like this. 09:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * hi, I think Petscan does a "category intersection", but I don't know how the original website works. Avengium (talk) 10:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Custom/fictional language script
I'm currently working on a fictional nation and a conlang with it. I would like to use a custom script (conscript) on my wiki, like in line with normal text. Is there any way to do this currently? Any help would be appreciated. Dread (talk) 13:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


 * You could do this by creating a font file, hosting it on an external server, and then applying it to the text using CSS. You could also use images if that works for you. Which script do you want to use? ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 14:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

A problem with blogs
Every time a user makes a blog on the wikis I manage, they get an error message stating a blog with the same name already exists (when really one doesn't) rather than letting them know that the blog was created successfully like when making normal pages. Is there any way I can fix this? --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 21:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hey! I noticed this in your question and I will try to help. Is this a MediaWiki extension? If so, what? --Anton (talk) 12:26, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * The extension the wikis use for blogs is called "BlogPage". --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 00:18, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * DeciduousWater534 Can you link to a blog post on one of your wikis where this problem/error occurs? This should help diagnose this a bit. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Here’s a link to a recent blog post on Crappy Games Wiki. —DeciduousWater534 (talk) 23:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Risapedia templates bug
Hi. The Risapedia has suffered another failure. This time it is in the templates. I thought that the wiki is Spanish language, the namespace "Plantilla:" changed to "Template:", which affects the wiki. Greetings. Anthony8IA (talk) 21:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)


 * This may be related to #T6826. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Please join IRC/Discord and let us know or leave a comment on the task if it's still affecting your wiki. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  08:23, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

How to solve Template loop detected
Lukeseaver (talk) 06:30, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Remove the template that causes it to try and display itself. If you link to the page then we can advise. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  08:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It'll always happen if you call a template into the same template. Make use of and to solve this issue. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 12:22, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Requests for help regarding マイン乾布's massive vandalism on chakuwiki
Hi,

chakuwiki was vandalized by マイン乾布 last night, and I'm here to request for help on several ways. Thanks in advance, Bakaba (talk) 22:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) The vandal has moved over 100 pages in a complicated way, and as it's hard to restore all by ourselves, we would like to request CVT members to help us recover the wiki.
 * 2) There have been several cases of spoofed admin accounts on chakuwiki, taking advantage of difficulty for confirming their identity because of recent migration and closure of the original wiki. Thus I'd like to request for globally locking such spoofing and vandalism-only accounts. They are:
 * 3) *マイン乾布
 * 4) *アイレヴォ
 * 5) *Amberangel


 * Bakaba Yeah, this should've been requested at stewards' noticeboard, but I can move this thread there afterward. In the mean time, looking at Special:Nuke for マイン乾布 on the given wiki, it looks like the page and redirect creations have been deleted already, unless the  needs to be manually removed/blanked first? Can you clarify a bit what, exactly, you would like done in terms of the vandalism remediation? In terms of the global locks, I can indeed handle that right now. Dmehus (talk) 22:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for locking.
 * As for the recovery, please check out their move log. This time, they have acted as a mass-and-random mover.--Bakaba (talk) 23:32, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As a further note, I'd like to point out that アイレヴォ and Amberangel have acted as a seemingly good-faith account, and reverting their edits might be improper, unlike マイン乾布's obvious vandalism. Bakaba (talk) 23:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Bakaba Ah, okay. I'm a bit confused, though, with regard to edits by アイレヴォ and Amberangel. If they're being locked as vandalism only accounts, for which we obviously have to rely on your judgment due to your speaking Japanese fluently, why are they reverting vandalism by マイン乾布? I'll take a look at the move logs for マイン乾布, though. Dmehus (talk) 23:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think they are reverting マイン乾布's edit, because they had been blocked locally before マイン乾布 vandalized the wiki. Those who are reverting now should be admins whose identities are confirmed. Bakaba (talk) 02:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I tried to revert a couple things that Amberangel left behind, but I noticed you reverted my edit on one of them, realizing I may have done an overkill at that point. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I see that Dmehus has dealt with some parts of this request already. We would like to help out with the rest of your request, but we have some reservations as it is quite tricky to understand with the machine translation in order to see what is vandalism and what isn't, and we wouldn't want to revert something that isn't actually vandalism and create more work for you. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:58, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you guys think should happen to the rest of those LTAs targeting the  still going after the Japanese admins of that said wiki, if it helps with the investigation? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Concern
Is there any protection on Miraheze against hacking or similar behavior?

I am a little worried about someone, whom may or may not attempt to illegally get into my account. MarioSuperstar77 (talk) 21:25, 12 February 2021 (UTC)


 * MarioSuperStar77 I mean, it's users responsibilities to ensure their account(s) are secure. You should ensure you have a very strong password, at minimum, and a confirmed e-mail address associated to your account. You should also consider setting your preferences or global preferences to include notifications, via e-mail and on-wiki, of logins from unfamiliar devices. Finally, you may wish to consider enabling two-factor authentication; however, do not lose your scratch codes and ensure your e-mail address is kept up to date. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:29, 12 February 2021 (UTC)