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What can we do to prevent any more drama magnetism on the Reception Wikis? Is there something we need to address to prevent it from getting any worse?
Is there something that we could do to save our wikis and stop the rise of drama magnetism? I've tried pretty much a lot of things, but it got worse. Is there a solution to resolve any of this? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)


 * DarkMatterMan4500 I would suggest you review all your articles in  namespace, in particular, and ensure that every claim is cited (usually with a footnote), either by a verified primary source (of the subject, such as a Twitter account of the subject which has been verified by Twitter or confirmed by your wikis' editors) or a reliable, independent source (i.e., generally not a blog post and certainly not other wikis, as that amounts to circular referencing). Additionally, where you have biographical articles of real people, have you received consent to post their photos, or have they posted said photos from a verified account? These are just two ideas, but they're main ones that would definitely be helpful at improving overall content quality and help to ensure Content Policy requirements are met. You would also do well to discuss and implement local content policies that supplement Content Policy, requiring such things as attribution and reliable sourcing in the drafting of articles. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 16:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds good. But we should also try and prevent drama from expanding, so I think I might take some drastic measures by maybe gathering some sort of consensus from other admins. For 1, I'm thinking of maybe banning blogs that makes fun of other Reception Wiki fans from the wikis, and possibly try and save it. And 2, try to get quality control to actually work, so there won't be any terrible pages that looks like it was rushed. Even if it fails, I'm definitely not going to leave Miraheze as I've had a lot of fun here. There's a lot for me to learn, and I hopefully would want to help out with any problems that may persist. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Those sound like good ideas as well. Definitely have a more robust and rigorous content quality approval standard. I wouldn't necessarily say you'd need to ban blogs outright, as they're a reasonable outlet for users to express views, but rather just develop a local policy in terms of outlining the expected tone of posts. It's fine to express negative views, for example, but the tone of the post should have some factual basis and not be completely negative. More balanced, thoughtful opinions, for example. Dmehus (talk) 16:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * For the content quality controls, though, you should definitely not just consider only administrators' views, but all of your wikis' regular contributors' views, as they may have some ideas to consider. Dmehus (talk) 16:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That is also helpful. That way, we can save the Reception Wikis from being shut down just because of drama outright. And banning blogs completely wouldn't feel right to me. So, I'm thinking that all the contributors can get involved in the conversation directly. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for Dormancy Exemption for research group wiki
Please be so kind as to apply a Dormancy Exemption to https://eucxylo.miraheze.org/wiki/ - this is a wiki that my research group started building last year, with the intention of making it public when/if there is enough good-quality information in it to be useful as a public resource. We let it get inactive in the latter part of the year, but intend to try to make regular use of it going forward (the risk of our hard work being deleted is quite demoralizing!).

Thanks and best wishes. KCMartin (talk) 12:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)


 * KCMartin You lucked out, as your wiki had only been marked as deleted, so I have now ✅ your wiki per this request. Please ensure you make at least one edit or log action to your wiki before this time tomorrow to prevent your wiki from being reclosed by the inactive wikis maintenance script, though if it were reclosed, you can reopen it at Special:ManageWiki. As to your Dormancy Policy exemption request, with the wiki undeleted, I will assess this request shortly, and follow up with you within several hours. Dmehus (talk) 14:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * KCMartin Regarding your request for a Dormancy Policy exemption, I've now reviewed your wiki, and have ✅ your wiki an indefinite, though not permanent, exemption to Dormancy Policy as your wiki clearly has documented research notes, studied by researchers, and later intended to be read by an even larger audience. On the second criterion, with few editors on your wiki, with you providing most of the contributions, as far as I can tell, and because your wiki had to be undeleted, there's a clear need. If you no longer require an exemption to Dormancy Policy because your wiki has an active editing community, please do advise us at this noticeboard. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 14:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you @Dmehus - I've made an edit as requested, and am very happy to be able to report to my group that our wiki is back in the land of the living. We decided at a meeting this week that we want to try to establish a more structured and regular approach to adding content: hopefully our longer-term goal of nucleating a useful public resource will come to fruition (and we will no longer need the Dormancy Exemption). All the best - keep well. KCMartin (talk) 15:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Undelete of joepcolerwiki
Hello, can steward please undelete joepcolerwiki per this request? Thx,--MrJaroslavik (talk) 13:04, 11 February 2021 (UTC)


 * MrJaroslavik, Thank you for moving this request from requests for adoption to here. The wiki has now been ✅, per this request. Dmehus (talk) 14:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Delete codedarmswiki
Hello, can steward please delete codedarmswiki per this wiki request? Thanks,--MrJaroslavik (talk) 13:35, 11 February 2021 (UTC)


 * MrJaroslavik, thank you for posting this request. As I'd already seen this, this has already been ✅. Should you or other wiki creators come across a duplicate wiki request in future, I believe that the wiki language code can be changed in Special:ManageWiki by the new wiki . Dmehus (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * But cannot change subdomain...--MrJaroslavik (talk) 14:11, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * True, though it's likely the requestor originally preferred the  subdomain and selected   as a second choice not knowing they could've changed their language code in ManageWiki. If they did want a new subdomain, this can actually be changed by filing a Phabricator request. Any Site Reliability Engineer (Infrastructure) can handle these requests, though in practice it's usually Reception123 who is usually very quick with these requests as he usually handles them within a few hours of requesting and almost always the same day of requesting. Dmehus (talk) 14:16, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Delete wiki please
Please can you delete my wiki: https://taerelvari.miraheze.org as I moved it to self hosting (I only had it on MH while I was waiting on a host, but now I just did it myself so the Miraheze wiki is not needed any more) TheBurningPrincess (talk) 00:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)


 * TheBurningPrincess ✅. Dmehus (talk) 00:33, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Unlock request for 大沼
Hello. I want the steward to unlock 大沼.

He was blocked and global locked as a LTA, but local investigations (identity verification, etc.) revealed him to be innocent.He was not LTA:KOSHIN. クールトレイン７７７ (talk) 14:45, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what "local investigations (identity verification, etc.)" would be. Additionally, I'm personally not comfortable unlocking a user based on the results of said "local investigations" by an involved or uninvolved third party. If 大沼 wishes for their account to be unlocked, please have them present their case to Stewards, via e-mail, to  for consideration. Dmehus (talk) 15:54, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have to report that the locals there are planning to allow 大沼's lock evasion with another account per this "local investigations."
 * As an ex-Steward and a community member there, I have already pointed out that 大沼 him/herself should contact Stewards and this is not something that the local community can decide.
 * However, since I currently have no additional permissions there, I don't have the power to stop this community if they actually decide to allow 大沼's comeback, and thus would like to report it on SN beforehand that the community might head to policy violations.
 * I think posting a steward's comment there can help them rethink their action, if necessary.-- 00:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with this matter, but I will just echo what 開拓者 ("The Pioneer") said above and just state that I think 大沼 should e-mail  to request an unlock, providing us with any pertinent background information. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 01:03, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Re Open Horrible Vyonders Wiki please
Could you please re open the Horrible Vyonders Wiki, because that wiki isn't for hate, it only shows the low qualities of Vyonders like Atrocious YouTubers Wiki, I hope you understand this message Bye FranciscoLol2009 (talk) 06:25, 13 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I am afraid that the wiki had serious Content Policy violations which had not been dealt with by the wiki administrators. The wiki will never be reopened and similar wiki requests will be declined. Thank you. 06:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I see, but which articles violates the Content Policy? FranciscoLol2009 (talk) 08:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Many of the articles violated the Content Policy, which most are not deleted.  Circley  Does Extracter    ( Circley Talk  |  Global   |  Email the Cloud )  15:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Global lock request for 地震
Hi,

I'd like to request 地震 to be globally locked as a vandalism-only account.

Last night (JST), several Japanese wikis were severely vandalized by him/her, whose account name is probably related to the earthquake which struck Eastern-Japan yesterday.

S/he claims on his/her userpage that he has vandalized those wikis because s/he couldn't vandalize chakuwiki, and I suppose s/he is not only a vandalism-only account but also related to recent LTAs in chakuwiki.

Therefore, I'd like to lock him/her, and have an investigation on possible further cross-wiki abuse as well.

Thanks in advance,-- 01:09, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Locked. Possible investigation leaving for steward,--MrJaroslavik (talk) 14:17, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Global lock for spambot
Please lock Special:CentralAuth/Mindy95C82717 globally as a spambot. Thanks. JavaHurricane (talk) 05:55, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * JavaHurricane ✅. Thank you for your report. As a recommended best practice, if spam only accounts are flooding local wiki abuse logs, we recommend locally blocking them, at least temporarily, and then reporting spam only accounts to Stewards via this noticeboard in a batch of a half dozen or more&mdash;preferrably listing them in an unordered or ordered list. Dmehus (talk) 06:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Request to remove Zppix' Consul bit
Could a Steward please remove Zppix' Consul bit on Public Test Wiki per his stated desire in on IRC to resign from everything? Thanks. Note: Requested in my capacity as a Consul on TestWiki. Dmehus (talk) 08:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I said sysadmin only ❌ need to update my sig Zppix (Meta &#124; Sysadmin &#124; talk to me) 08:22, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * RhinosF1, Reception123, and I did infer that you had left Miraheze completely, but I'll restore your rights then. Dmehus (talk) 08:27, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ per your clarification. Dmehus (talk) 08:32, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding another language to my wiki
Hey there. I want to add Turkish language in which I can write along with English on wiki. Can I get a separate https://www.tr.pdc.miraheze.org for my existing wiki https://www.pdc.miraheze.org Al-khataei (talk) 18:22, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Al-khataei Yep, you can, but you need to request a second wiki, then have either a Steward or interwiki administrator add an interwiki prefix for your main wiki and interlanguage prefix(es) for your other wikis on each wiki. Do you already have a second wiki? Dmehus (talk) 18:30, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Please request an Interwiki Administrator instead of a Steward in this case since the wiki is public. 19:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, ideally, all requests for local interwiki table changes should occur on community noticeboard, which interwiki administrators (sometimes stewards, though, if they're available, and don't also hold interwiki administrator permissions, will respond to such requests). I just said that for a couple reasons, in case it was a private wiki but also to keep the discussion together. Since the requested second other language has now been created, Al-khataei can now just provide us with the requested interwiki prefix (for the local interwiki tables) for the main wiki and the interlanguage prefixes they need. Any steward or interwiki administrator following this thread can feel free to action that portion of the request. Hope that clarifies. Dmehus (talk) 20:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Turkish: pds.miraheze.org
 * English: pdc.miraheze.org
 * Al-khataei (talk) 10:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Al-khataei This has now been ✅. You will use  as the interwiki prefix on either wiki, together with the language code of the other wiki. For example, to link to an article on your Turkish wiki from your English wiki, you'd use  . To link to an article on your English wiki from your Turkish wiki, you would use  . Forward and transclude flags haven't been enabled as you hadn't requested them. I couldn't use   as the interwiki prefix as   is a valid ISO language code for interlanguage links. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Undelete commutativealgebrawiki
Please undelete my commutativealgebrawiki at https://commutativealgebra.miraheze.org. The wiki has been deleted per the Dormancy Policy, and now I would like to continue expanding the wiki. GTrang (talk) 19:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * GTrang Thank you for posting this request at stewards' noticeboard. The wiki has now been ✅ per your request. I've also ✅ the wiki for you. In the future, you can avoid your wiki going inactive by making at least one log action or edit every 45 days. Should your wiki ever be closed, you can reopen it yourself in Special:ManageWiki. Additionally, if your wiki has at least 50-60 content pages and you have a need for an exemption to Dormancy Policy, you can submit that here in a separate request, but there's lots of time for that. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 03:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Give me bureaucrat status for Animated Muscle Men
It's Grust and I got rid of the password on the old account and since I didn't have e-mail for it I can't get my old account back. Since I wish to at least be active on the Animated Muscle Men Wiki I request to be given bureaucrat status for the Animated Muscle Men wiki. Be sure to check both mine and Grust's IP address if possible to confirm we are one and the same. Str8Muscle (talk) 17:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Str8Muscle First, please link to the exact wiki. Second, are there other bureaucrats on the wiki who can grant you the bureaucrat flag? Finally, when were you last active as "Grust"? Since you haven't identified, well, really any information here, your best bet would be to hold a local election on the wiki in question, following the tips here. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Str8Muscle Assuming you mean, looking at Special:Log/Grust, I see this user has not been active in more than three months, as of today actually. So, even if this could be done in theory, it would not yield any results. Besides that, though, barring you providing some on-wiki confirmation from User:Grust that User:Str8Muscle is that user's legitimate alternate account, this ❌ as we have no verifiable proof that you are who you say you are. So, please follow the guidelines for hosting a local election, and come back here in at least five to seven calendar days when your local election has concluded. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:18, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry I don't understand any of that. I'll go to plan B and hope it get inactive and adopt.  Str8Muscle (talk) 22:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Str8Muscle What don't you understand about the above? In any case, a local election would be quicker. An adoption request would require the wiki to first be completely inactive (i.e., you and others would not be able to edit the wiki), then become closed. This process would take at least sixty (60) days, from tomorrow. Once it's eligible for adoption, you're looking at a minimum of two to four weeks for conclusion of an adoption request, so ninety (90) days, again, from tomorrow, at the earliest and subject to no one editing the wiki. A local election request could be concluded inside of a single week. For an example of what a local election page looks like, see this page on . Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Forget it. I give up.  Str8Muscle (talk) 03:06, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, fair enough. It's a fairly simple process, but it is what it is. We can't just transfer rights from one account to another without being able to confirm the two users are related. It's for the protection of all users, as I'm sure you can appreciate. At any rate, as that wiki has no active administrators and bureaucrats on that wiki, Stewards and Global Sysops can be called upon via this noticeboard to effect certain actions requiring administrator permissions. Dmehus (talk) 03:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Well whatever happens happens Str8Muscle (talk) 03:26, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Removal of wiki creators who are inactive
Hello. Per the policy, I am requesting that the following wiki creators are removed by a steward for being inactive for more than 3 months: Bonnedav, Cmg, Guy vandegrift. Thank you. DeeM28 (talk) 12:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * DeeM28 This is ❌ because I actually discussed this with John and policy has always been three months of global activity on all platforms (note this includes Miraheze's official channels on Discord and IRC, as well as Phabricator and GitHub). While this may not make apparent sense, since wikis are approved and created on Meta Wiki, functionally, wiki creators are a global role despite being a Meta only user group. And, at the end of the day, policy does not limit how many wiki creators there can be at any given time. A better strategy would be to engage with less active wiki creators and see if they wish to continue serving as wiki creators, which I will try to do over the next month or two. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I did not know that was how the policy was understood. In my opinion, I do not think it is very useful, as if wiki creators are not active on Meta and creating wikis, there is not much use for them to preserve the role other than to have another hat for their account. Secondly, if we are to apply this global standard, have we checked if they are active globally? I also do not really see why Phabricator and GitHub which are technical-oriented spaces have anything to do with being a wiki creator. Lastly, I would be happy to engage with the wiki creators and ask them via their talkpages if they are still interested in preserving the role and creating wikis, as you must be busy as a steward if it is going to take 1-2 months. DeeM28 (talk) 16:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * DeeM28 Thanks for your reply. I should be able to get to it in the next week or two actually, but gave myself 1-2 months depending on if other things come up. There's a couple things I need to get to first, one of which in a non-Steward capacity and the other of which in a non-official capacity but which is related to coaching of a long-time community member potentially keen on volunteering in an official Counter Vandalism Team capacity. Dmehus (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)