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Template:Location map~ doesn't work on my wiki
Hello everyone. On my wiki, https://mypersonal.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page, the template "Location map~" doesn't seem to work. I copied it from a fandom wiki and there it works perfectly, but on my wiki, it displays "<.div style="position: absolute; z-index: 2; top: Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".%; left: Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".%; height: 0; width: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;">" and shows the red dot with the city name next to it. I tried to look for those brackets that it doesn't recognize but found nothing. Thank you in advance, hope you can help me! <3 Btw sorry yesterday I mistakenly wrote this on the archive. :P
 * I'm not familiar with Fandom/Wikia (I preferred the Wikia name, personally), but it's quite likely they use a modified markup to render their pages. Have you tried removing the preceding period for the "div" tag that precedes the "style" attribute? That's the only think stands out to me from your quoted text. I haven't yet looked at your wiki, though. As for accidentally posted to the archive, thanks for letting us know. has already removed it. In future if you make an error like that, you can go back as soon as realize and hit "undo" on your edit(s). If you're the most recent editor, you can still undo both edits without rollback rights. Dmehus (talk) 14:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, please remember to sign your posts with ~ as a bot automatically archives threads according to the date of last activity. Without a timestamp, it's not necessarily able to do its job (although in this case, it would've, since I replied). Still, signing identifies who is posting. I've added your signature for you with unsigned. Dmehus (talk) 15:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

No longer able to add people to groups
Hi! I'm an admin at companybumpers.miraheze.org and after my last visit to the permissions settings, I don't know how, but the admin and bureaucrat groups are no longer able to add people to any other groups. The Group Assignments tab seemed like the logical place to fix this, but nothing worked. Would you have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Hb1290 (talk) 10:07, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I guess it's because of a server-side issue. Try deleting your cookies on all miraheze domains. --Jack980517 (talk) 20:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed! IDK why, but when I tried fixing it the first time, the Group Assignments table had totally different groups in it for some reason. When I went back in today, the normal groups were showing. That outage the other day was just after the problem happened, so maybe that had something to do with it. Hb1290 (talk) 02:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Need help on category suppression
w:Wikipedia:Category Suppression says: "you need to surround the categorization code with, otherwise your template itself will be categorized."

However, I tried this on mh:silentblue:Template:maimai Difficulty, and the template itself is still added into the categories, and I don't want that. The categories are only meant to have the pages that the templates are transcluded on.

How can I achieve what I want? Thanks.

Jack980517 (talk) 18:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see it. My initial guess is that something in this rat's nest is mismatched (curly braces or tags).  If the   is not in order when encountered, then the   would be ignored as well.   03:26 11-Jun-2020


 * Oh, for Pete's sake! Your Usage (with  ) contains a use of itself as an example!  So the template is one of "the pages that the templates are transcluded on"!  Mystery solved   03:31 11-Jun-2020  I recommend that you write code that inhibits output of the categories if the target is in the Template: namespace.   03:34 11-Jun-2020


 * Thank you very much. I somehow overlooked that the noinclude portion contains a transclusion lol... --Jack980517 (talk) 06:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I was going to suggest that, but wasn't quite sure if it was that simple. Glad you got it resolved, . Dmehus (talk) 03:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Code of Conduct Commission reform RfC
As was the case with the CVT reform earlier, it is time to reform the CoCC which in its current form presents many flaws and challenges. Here is my current draft, feel free to make suggestions and edits before it's published as an RfC! Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I have a question about the results of the Zppix poll held in Requests for global rights
Granted, it doesn't meet the appointment requirements stipulated in the Global Sysop policy, but it seems to meet the requirements of Proposal 4.1.I would like to hear your opinion on which standard should be adopted.If you write it in the wrong place, we would appreciate it if you could move it to the right place.Thanks.--松 (talk) 01:00, 12 June 2020 (UTC)fix.--松 (talk) 01:02, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The reasoning behind my approach is;


 * 4.1 states “During this 5 day period they will remain in the group.”
 * There was no time limit enacted on requesting confirmation.
 * A CVT member who never requests a confirmation, retains rights the community have voted to abolish.
 * Therefore, in closing the RfC I said; “Anyone who fails to create one by this deadline will be deemed 'resigned'.” As a CVT member who does not opt to move from an abolished group to an established group, is effectively not requesting access to the new group. As such, abolishment of a group effectively ceases to have the previous group membership.
 * A 7-day period was given from close of RfC for a user to trigger a confirmation before the CVT group was going to be technically abolished.
 * Both CVT and Global Sysop policies have the revocation clause of “rights revoked for any reason, they must make a successful request that satisfies the criteria above in order to regain the rights.”
 * As such, a user who has their rights removed for not initiating a confirmation request in the 7 day period, of which was not objected to by anyone - including the user who acknowledged they needed to start the request within 7 days of the RfC - has had their rights removed. To which policy mandates they go through a full request to regain the rights.
 * Had circumstances which prevented the request from being filed reasonably within 7 days had been notified to a Steward, discretion may have been applied, or alternatively another user could have asked for confirmation of the rights without any issue.
 * The above is full reasoning behind my handling of this situation as backed up by written policy and common sense applied otherwise. John (talk) 01:21, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I see.I still thought Zppix was at CVT, but it seemed to be my misunderstanding.Thank you for teaching me.--松 (talk) 04:17, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

internal error
An internal error has occurred. Can it be repaired?--雪津風明石 (talk) 04:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In Warships Wiki.--雪津風明石 (talk) 04:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * (Add)If it cannot be repaired, is it possible to delete it and have it recreated?--雪津風明石 (talk) 05:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll ping here, in case they hadn't seen this discussion. Dmehus (talk) 03:32, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Void wouldn't be much help here, I've poked a sysadmin to look. Next time, please report on  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  13:41, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, this has been fixed. Paladox (talk) 13:49, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks—I wasn't certain if it was a wiki owner-caused issue or something to do with the server configuration, but in any case, yeah, that's something that should get a quicker response on Phab. Will do., thanks for the follow-up and/or fixing. Dmehus (talk) 14:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

No match was found
I have a problem with the search on my wiki. When user try to find something in the full version of the wiki in the quick tips box it writes that no match was found. When user press enter button, mediawiki redirects to an existing article or search page with results. Sometimes quick results work. Maybe something on wiki broke search? Problems with the fast preview too --Kwack (talk) 13:37, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

"Loss of session data" happened again
As before, clearing all miraheze cookies fixed it. Just posting here to notify people about it. --Jack980517 (talk) 11:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Need help on Navboxes
mh:silentblue:Template:Kotonoha Project

Why do the lists show as normal lists instead of horizontal ones like on Wikipedia? --Jack980517 (talk) 13:02, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Because they're formatted using asterisks that precede each item. I believe on English Wikipedia, it's customary to use a special character that resembles a small dot, aligned vertically in the middle of the text that precedes and follows it, to separate the list items. Have a look at w:Template:Canadian banks for the character I mean. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:12, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If you look at the source code of the template that you linked to, you'll see that it uses the asterisk as well. All example code on w:Template:Navbox/doc uses the asterisk, and that was what I followed. There's some kind of transformation going on on Wikipedia that converts normal lists to the horizontal ones which is absent on my wiki. FWIW, the guide on copying Navbox to other wikis at w:Template Talk:Navbox isn't quite clear; it doesn't even specify which parts of Common.css to copy, for example, although I worked that out on my own. I did copy all 5 lua modules mentioned there. --Jack980517 (talk) 13:17, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair point. It seems like there's a dependent template, Hclass, that is also needed as it creates the horizontally styled lists. I would recommend exporting w:Template:Hclass, preferably all revisions so you are backward compatible on the CC licensing, and then use Special:Import to import it to your wiki. Let me know if that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:32, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into it. w:Template:Hclass doesn't exist though. --Jack980517 (talk) 13:40, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It does. That's a typo in my wikilink above. It is Hlist. You can grab it at w:Template:Hlist. Hope that helps? ;-) Dmehus (talk) 13:47, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I imported w:Template:Hlist and w:Module:List, and it didn't help. Jack980517 (talk) 14:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: that was a capitalization problem because I turned off $wgCapitalLinks. But now Module:List complains that Module:TableTools is not found. The dependency tree just gets deeper and deeper... I guess I'll just not use this conversion at all. Jack980517 (talk) 14:21, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Go to the wiki page that has the template you want to import and click the edit button on that page. You probably won't be able to edit it, but you should see the modules and templates the template is using.--松 (talk) 16:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

My private wiki is throwing an error saying "Fatal exception of type MWException" on every page, and is unusable

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

This discussion was moved to Stewards' noticeboard (permanent link). Dmehus (talk) 17:20, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

My wiki link is https://prodlegendsdiscussion.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

I was setting up some user groups, then, after pressing "submit", I begin getting this same error on every page. I can't do anything on the wiki now.

I really need help with this, thanks DaChickenKingboi (talk) 16:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC) . Dmehus (talk) 17:13, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like you've changed a setting that now requires reversion by a system administrator or steward. I'm moving this to SN. Please don't reply to this thread.
 * Moved to: Stewards' noticeboard


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

Is my wiki broken?
So i made an wiki called Ideapedia. Source editor works, but VisualEditor doesn't. Also, the icon (not the favicon) doesn't appear. Please help! -AwesomePie16 08:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * When doing the logo/favicon, open up the target file in a new tab, the url should look something like https:// static.miraheze.org/somewiki/xx/x/name.file. So, for example, your favicon would be https://static.miraheze.org/ideapediawiki/8/8b/Favicon_%2813%29.ico instead of https://ideapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Favicon_(13).ico. For VisualEditor, do be sure to go through all the namespaces in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces, and enable visual editor for that namespace. -- Void  Whispers 22:15, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Popups not working
Hello! I'm unsure if this is an error or something on my end, so I apologize if this is in the wrong place.

On the My Little Pony wiki, the popups function stopped working a few months back when the login server changed. I made a post about it on Phabricator, but it was closed within a day, saying that they should be working fine since some of the extensions got merged. I decided not to make a post about it since I assumed it was something on my end, but nothing I try seems to suggest that. I have both PopUps and TextExtracts enabled, and have checked Show Popups By Default in Special:ManageWiki/settings, but nothing works. I tried logging in and out but still nothng. Same error happens on Hilda wiki.

Any idea how to fix this? Or is it an error? --Amelia (talk) 17:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I Can't Create Garbage Video Game Items Wiki For Some Reason
I am trying to create Garbage Video Game Items Wiki, where I will discuss the worst video game items. However, it won't let me do so because it keeps saying, "Your wiki request contains an invalid character." I typed everything correctly and double-checked for invalid characters, and it turns out there aren't any invalid characters. Can you please figure out the problem? HammerBro101 (talk) 01:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The description may have contained the improper characters specified in the blacklist. Please request again without these characters, or tell us the wiki you want to create and the reasons here. --そらたこ (talk) 06:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Where do I register my thanks to you? From Idea to live in 7 hours!
The subject says it all.
 * Your welcome :) ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  22:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Identity
I am more than confused regarding my identity when interacting with Miraheze or it's representatives and/or community.

Of course, I am a newbie here – my wiki went online only 2 days back. So, much experience to be gathered. This is not a criticism of the resources and free hosting that Miraheze has supplied. It is more in the way of asking a question.

It seems that Miraheze provides a plethora of means by which I can contact a human but they are not all immediately transparent as to how each should be/are used.

I will list them here, for the avoidance of doubt;

Contact us   • IRC: #miraheze (recommended) • Discord: https://discord.is/miraheze • Facebook: Miraheze • Twitter: @miraheze • On-wiki: Help center

For reasons specific to me, none of these are viable means of casual chat like, for example, "How do I get yellow text on a black background?". Sure, the answer is "Look at Mediawiki – they have loads of help". And they do, and that question would be answered. No problem.

It is not the answer that is my problem, it is the medium by which I am forced to ask any question. That is my problem. Maybe it is only MY problem.

We can discard Facebook and Twitter since I refuse to give those entities any semblance of control in my life. I have discarded IRC because I really do not want to learn another new thing (I'm already learning wikimedia and wikidata) and the On-wiki Help centre is not a chat channel.

That leaves Discord. I am very familiar with that and use it for two completely separate slices of my online life. So I went there. It turns out that it needs an email address. Does it? Does it really?

Yes. It does. Not only that – it needs a password to associate that email address to. Which password? A new one? Or one that I use with Discord? Which of my two identities on Discord does it want? Or does it want a third one? Or one that I will only use with Miraheze? Or one that I use with my Bank? No help nor hint is supplied.

Perhaps someone here can do better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianwade75 (talk • contribs) 23:24, 16 June 2020‎ (UTC)
 * I was pretty sure that the discord server simply required having an email registered to your discord account. So long as you have verified that email address, you should be able to participate. If you're still having issues, I'm sure we can try and figure something out. -- Void  Whispers 00:19, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can ask questions on this page (as you just asked your meta-question about asking questions). I've provided formatting help and debugging here, or others might beat me to it.   22:31 19-Jun-2020

Can I change the domain of the URL?
Can I change the domain of the URL? I want to change the domain before ".miraheze.org". What should I do?--雪津風明石 (talk) 06:38, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is possible by changing the connection to the DB. If you can, could you create a task on Phabricator. --そらたこ (talk) 07:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I could not login at Phabricator with my account
I wanted to ask for Import of this Template:



But I was not able to login with my accout (I tried a few times)

thx for help. --Heinz (talk) 02:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. What error message are you getting when you try to login? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:29, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I got:Username or Password are incorrect.
 * It´s the Ping-Template I wanted to install on my Wiki. It does not work, sad. --Heinz (talk) 10:24, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I see you have managed to make a request, I've answered on Phabricator :) Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 11:13, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser is broken!
(I couldn't report this to Phabricator as the login feature on Meta does not work for me)

When logging into my account to any Miraheze wiki (e.g. scratchwiki) through AutoWikiBrowser, it doesn't work! AutoWikiBrowser does work on wikis not owned by Miraheze, so it's a Miraheze issue.

Here is the error message when logging in: API returned the following error: 'The "login" module requires a POST request.'

ApiErrorException in ApiEdit.CheckForErrors

**description**: **workaround**: -- **OS**: Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0 **version**: AutoWikiBrowser (6.1.0.1), WikiFunctions (6.1.0.1), revision 12353 (2019-09-17 21:16:42) **net**: 4.0.30319.42000 **duplicate**: **site**: http://scratch.miraheze.org Dibbydib (talk) 06:22, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I fixed it! You need to set the site to HTTPS instead of HTTP in preferences. Dibbydib (talk) 08:06, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Can't log in
For some reason I can't log in to the Military Wiki. The cause is probably that you changed the URL. I can log in to wikis other than this, but it is not retained even if I check "Keep my login status", and I am logged out when I press F5 to update. What should i do? --雪津風明石 (talk) 06:03, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This phenomenon (cannot log in to MilitaryWiki) is occurring in other users. This makes all administrators unable to log in.--雪津風明石 (talk) 06:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem of being logged out without permission has been resolved.--雪津風明石 (talk) 06:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * When I try to log in, the following message is displayed.
 * There are currently no login attempts made for your session.
 * Original text in Japanese) あなたのセッションに関して現在ログインの試行は行われていません. 
 * This message is displayed in red.--雪津風明石 (talk) 06:20, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Try reporting to Phabricator.--松•Matsu (talk) 15:38, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Doesn't remember "dark mode"
The Timeless wiki appearance is quite appealing and similar to wordpress.

However, when I set "dark mode" and change page, the wiki is light again.

Setting "dark" in every page is troublesome as clicking links is ubiquitous.

I would like a way to solve this,

It would be good to either set dark mode by default in my wiki or in my user. If both are possible I would like to know it as well.

Cheers and thanks in advance. (Don't know how to sign here, no button)
 * It's not quite the same thing, but Timeless-DarkCSS might be similar to what you want. As for signing, just type  at the end of your message.


 * Thanks, I will try that. And if anyone else has more reccomendations for dark themes also would try those. Our wiki community is accustomed to fandom darkness -in all possible senses- (sadly my keyboard configuration doesn't use those "tilde" signs, spanish keyboards don't have them physically inscribed either. Oh well. copy and paste it is...) --NimoStar (talk) 05:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The bug with the dark mode extension is known. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  06:07, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That's too bad. Anyways, I ended up doing my own version of a dark Timeless mode since the "dark" one was not too much to my liking (outdated code and giant serif fonts) It is here https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Timeless.css ; if anyone has any advide on how to share it in mediawiki platform, I will hear. --NimoStar (talk) 02:14, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Gallery template don't recognize any parameters
Hi, I'm working on a Infobox that have a gallery on it but for some reason when I try to use parameters inside the gallery tag it does not recoginize them as parameters. I already did that once on Fandom on now I'm trying to do the same here so I can autopopullate the gallery.

This behaviour seems intentional so I would like to know if there is anyway to get what I want.

Here is what I'm trying: And should be used like this:

Any hint??

--arracso (talk) 17/06/2020


 * doesn't work in tags like . I worked around it by declaring a variable with #vardefine, which is a parser function provided by the Variables extension. See mh:silentblue:Template:YouTube. Jack980517 (talk) 19:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I already tryed using Variables on this example. As you can see it works for setting the text of the gallery but it does not work to set the image. Do you think this is a bug??? Also have any idea how to solve this. I'm open to anything. I know js but still figuring out how to use it on templates. Also I don't know not lua which I think I will be the best to solve this (create a gallery using lua). --arracso (talk) 19:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Tabber seems to work for this purpose. Thanks for your response. I still want to know someway to use the gallery since maybe Tabber won't always work.

Help making multi-language wiki?
So, in out project at tuscriaturas.miraheze.org we have an Spanish wiki. But we also want to have an English wiki with translations of the same subject, and possibly more (we had a barebone English wiki with interlink added at the dreadful Fandom). However, I do not know nor was able to figure out how interwiki links and extra language wikis are managed at Miraheze. Do we need to request for more separate wikis? (such as "yourcreatures.miraheze.org"), do we use the same domain and administration? Do site admins need to link our wikis manually, or can we do it ourselves? Is there any guide to this or manuals? I think the ones at mediawiki would only be good if we were miraheze sysops. Thanks in advance. --NimoStar (talk) 02:19, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * There's a couple of ways to handle this, first, we can create multiple wikis and add interwiki prefixes that will be treated as language links (will need to look up how that is configured, but if that's what you want, all you'll need to do is ask). Alternately, you could just enable the translate extension so that you can have multiple language versions of the same page on the same wiki. As an example, you can check out our main page. You should be able to do this yourself, unlike the multiple wikis option which will require a phabricator task. -- Void  Whispers 02:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Annual survey
Hi! The time has come for our annual survey, please participate: Special:MirahezeSurvey. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 16:09, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

The problem with blogs comments on PowerDagger15 Friends Wiki
It seems that the wiki which I'm the bureaucrat on, "PowerDagger15 Friends Wiki" https://powerdaggerfifteensfriends.miraheze.org/ has blog pages, but comments on blog pages are not working. When I made a comment, I press post, but it's not working. What can I do? CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 10:46, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Delete archives of crummyscratchers, crappyscratchprojects, and reversecrummyscratchers
Hi. I'm CircleyDoesExtracter. I am telling archive.org to delete the archives of subdomains crummyscratchers.miraheze.org, reversecrummyscratchers.miraheze.org, and crappyscratchprojects.miraheze.org. They emailed me, and I am not the owner of 2 wikis, but I am the owner of reverse crummy scratchers wiki. Pacsonic9000 owns CSW and CPSW, and he requested me to delete these archives. CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 22:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is censorship. Are you even allowed to do this on behalf of Miraheze Staff? It's their say on whether or not a wiki gets archived by Wayback, not yours. KamafaDelgato021469 (talk) 23:59, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The scratch team wants to take down the archives, but I do not own these wikis, so Pacsonic will do the work. CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 01:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please don't bandy about big words like "censorship." No government is involved.  I believe Wayback is a totally separate organization that makes copies of information it finds (freely) on the web.   01:39 6-Jun-2020
 * I tell Wayback Machine to delete the archives of subdomains crummyscratchers, crappyscratchprojects, and reversecrummyscratchers! Can I need the stewards to request deletion of archives? CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 20:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Miraheze has no control over the Wayback Machine! Contact the Internet Archive (which owns the Machine) here: https://archive.org/about/contact.php -- 09:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * But it said that I'm not the owner of these archives, Miraheze is truly the owner of these archives. I told Rhinos to do. CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 00:17, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

RfC draft open for comments
I am requesting comments from the community for my draft RfC User:Sario528/Draft:Global rollback. This RfC will be a follow-up to the CVT reform RfC, and covers the possible creation of a new global group. Sario528 (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2020 (UTC)