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Dormancy Exemption Request
Hello, I'm the bureaucrat for the Blade XLord Wiki. The game Blade XLord (English server) has announced its shutdown on September 30, 2020. Since there will be no more English content updates, the Wiki will also no longer receive any updates moving forward. However, since there are no other readily available English guides/sources for the game, some of the guides may still be useful for those who are shifting to the Japanese server. Because of this, I would still like to request the Wiki be exempt from the dormancy policy for archival purposes if possible. --Elaeagnifolia (talk) 08:36, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * All the best. ThesenatorO5-2 (talk) 10:28, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have not looked through the content of this wiki, but you mentioned this wiki has a Japanese version that will be updated. It would be relatively straightforward (a Phabricator request) to merge this wiki's content into one or more new namespaces on the Japanese language wiki. We also need to consider that someone else may wish to adopt this English language wiki in accordance with Dormancy Policy, allowing it to stay independent of the Japanese wiki and continue to be maintained and updated. We should be mindful of the implications before rushing in to granting inactivity exemptions, so as not to "front run" our existing policies (chiefly Dormancy Policy). If, however, there were no requests to adopt it at requests for adoption, then I think we'd, potentially, have a stronger case for an exemption here (with the caveat that I've yet to assess its content on that basis). Until that process has played out, I can neither support nor oppose this request as described and discussed. Dmehus (talk) 14:37, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * To clarify, there is a Japanese version of the game, and there are Japanese informational sites available for the game (eg. blogs, game guide/database sites owned by commercial entities), but there is no Japanese Wiki in the sense of having an open, community-editable resource where I could add the info I've datamined from the game assets (Information not available on any of the sites, English or Japanese, that I've come across). While I wouldn't be adverse to the Wiki being adopted, I believe the chance is slim as I've been pretty much the only active editor for the past 2-3 months. If I knew anyone that was interested in continuing to maintain the Wiki, then I would've gladly handed over the reins of the Wiki to them instead of putting the Wiki into a permanent archival state, but unfortunately, I don't know anyone willing. What I do know though is that there is a subset of English players moving to the Japanese server, and I believe the English-written guides and datamined information would still be beneficial to that group of people. Hope that provides more insight into the situation! --Elaeagnifolia (talk) 22:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for that expanded detail and clarification to your Dormancy Policy exemption request. I know stewards have discretion here and this isn't something on which we !vote as a community, but I particularly like that you would be interested in handing it over to someone else, if they were willing to keep it current and actively maintain it. Given that, if stewards were to grant you an exemption request, would be supportive of the idea of someone potentially adopting it in the future if the person(s) can show, to steward satisfaction, that the requestor(s) can demonstrate that they have both the (a) knowledge and (b) commitment level in order to reinvigorate the wiki? The wiki would, notionally, thus be exempt from deletion due to inactivity, while at the same time, not making it exempt from adoption to qualified adopters. Functionally, a steward could note, presumably via a footnote next to your wiki's listing in the Dormancy Policy exceptions listing this caveat, linking to to the permalink or diff of the revision of this request at closing. Dmehus (talk) 23:16, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I'd like to point out that dormancy policy exemptions don't necessarily require voting and are usually decided by a Steward. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 15:53, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is a good point, too. Since arguments were expressed by the requestor, I just felt compelled to point out the reason(s) by which a steward may wish to not grant this exemption request. Though you've replied to my comment, I don't necessarily think it was directed towards me, though, since I'm not the one who merely !voted. I think my point about this potentially circumventing Dormancy Policy by trying to shut down a wiki and put it into a permanent archival state, without other users' being given a chance to maintain the wiki from a technical/maintenance point of view as well as from the perspective of content currency is particularly compelling. Dmehus (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Please Lock this troll
ETWGdbfnjkmazrTh Is a troll user who made a nonsense wiki request in the farmer log.㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 19:17, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they did make a wiki request that was invalid. However, at this time, it appears that they do not need to be locked, as they have made no contributons on any wiki, and they have not tripped the abuse filter. They have not done anything since I warned them on there talk page. If anything changes me or another user here will let you know, and a steward will look at the request and determine if they need to be locked. Thanks! --TFFfan (talk) 19:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the user should be locked, as the gibberish might be a sign of malware InspecterAbdel (talk) 19:24, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * They continued after warnings. --TFFfan (talk) 19:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I think he is going to be the next MrPissShitHead (And sorry if I said cuss words).㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 19:31, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree. Unfortunately. --TFFfan (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Regrettably, not having seen the farmer log spamming, I would have to support this, too. Dmehus (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah and doing this stuff will result in him getting a lock.㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 19:46, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's only one log action on one wiki, but with a random username like that, the probability of this user being either (a) a vandalism-only account or (b) a sockpuppet of an LTA is high. Dmehus (talk) 19:48, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah exactly.㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 19:55, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: ETWGdbfnjkmazrTh has been ✅ by RhinosF1. This should be sufficient, since Special:CreateWiki is not available on other Miraheze wikis. If the disruption continues, a steward can follow up. 21:23, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

(reset indent) I would recommend that users stop voting (support/oppose) on lock requests. They are not an election or a competition. If a Global Sysop or Steward thinks it is necessary they will lock the user but there is absolutely no need to vote on it, and user votes on these matters will not be taken into account. This user only having vandalised Meta, I do not see the need for a lock at this time. If there is any cross-wiki vandalism this may be reconsidered. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to leave this for now. It was only two requests spaced several minutes apart. If they do the exact same thing after the local block expires then I suggest immediately reblocking and would recommend a lock at that time. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 11:28, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

I can't change permission
I am the 更紗語辞典's bureaucrat. I created new user group named "架空世界創作者". But I can't add users to this permission group. What should I do? --TANUKI (talk) 02:58, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions/bureaucrat and check the box named "Can add to others" next to "架空世界創作者" in the "Group Assignments" section. 03:18, 1 August 2020 (UTC) ］ |
 * Thank you. Solved. --TANUKI (talk) 03:41, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

I can't do visual editing
I always get an error message. Is it possible to reinstate visual editing?

Trevor807 (talk) 18:20, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * On your wiki, or on Meta? In any case, community portal is the best place to ask these sort of questions. Having said that and assuming you meant on Meta, that is a long-standing, undesirable configuration issue, and I'm in the process of putting together a Phabricator request and, where required, a community discussion to fix this. In the mean time, if you have your preferences set globally, go to Special:Preferences, and disable "visual editor" (only 4-5 people have it active, very likely because of this configuration issue). When I have established the Phabricator ticket and, where required, community discussion, I'll ping you to express a view, if you wish. Dmehus (talk) 19:02, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Any wiki, it seems.

Trevor807 (talk) 06:08, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you please let us know what error message you are getting, and on which wiki? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:24, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Message: Error loading data from server: apierror-visualeditor-docserver-http-error: (curl error: 52) Server returned nothing (no headers, no data). Would you like to retry?. DifferentHistory Wiki and Best TV Shows Wiki.

Trevor807 (talk) 21:35, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Same here. The error I get is this: Error loading data from server: apierror-visualeditor-docserver-http-error: (curl error: 52) Server returned nothing (no headers, no data). Would you like to retry? - Theblazemaster4 (talk) 15:19, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Electowiki's configuration of VisualEditor and New Wikitext Editor seems to be the only Miraheze wiki on which I've never encountered this error. We should mirror that configuration globally, particularly on Meta. I believe the problem is when VisualEditor is disabled in some namespaces, since New Wikitext Editor is set to  (per the default configuration instructions on MediaWiki), it's not separately enabled. How the Wikimedia-owned and -operated wikis do it is they have some wikis where VE is enabled everywhere and some where it's enabled only in certain namespaces. In all wikis, though, New Wikitext Editor is enabled. Pinging . Dmehus (talk) 15:42, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Could someone please globally lock this user?
His name is RainBoy107.

Reason: He said in a YouTube video that he'd be happy if a user died and had the audacity to say that he would celebrate her death. He's also been acting like a pervert towards minors too. Here's a link to where he was acting so heartless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFya401z6A&t=49s DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

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What the heck just happened
I just got a notice saying that there was a Attempt to log into my account from another device probably meaning that somebody is trying to hack my account. Can anyone explain this? ㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 14:58, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * If it's says it was unsucessful, change your password to a more secure one and enable 2FA. If it was successful, please email tech@undefinedmiraheze.org ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:14, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * My password is the same as my zoom password, I only use it to get easier access to my account and also, it was a wrong password.㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 15:17, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Please do not reuse passwords. If they never got in, you should be fine but I strongly suggest you take this opportunity to review your digital security. I've asked a member of our technical team to review signs of any compromise. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:21, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You probably logged in from another device InspecterAbdel (talk) 20:05, 1 August 2020 (UTC)