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I edited my main page and added a page under Discussion: https://cec.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page

However, I don't see any links that members would follow to comment on this page or section. Is that something that you guys have to add manually? If so, can you add that please? I appreciate your help!

RDsupport (talk) 16:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There is an "Add Section" button, which let's them comment. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 16:26, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * most discussions (such as this current one) are just wikitext. The users would have to just type on that page like this, and preferably use indentation and signatures. For the ways of discussion-board type conversations, there's not really much, but Flow is an option that can be enabled, and could convert all talk pages into flow boards such as this one. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This page might help you. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:39, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I like the way the flow boards look! Can you please enable that?  Also I'm trying to add a user Apuzzio as an admin for this wiki.  I did a search and couldn't find her.  How do I add her?  Sorry for all the questions.  I haven't used a wiki like this before.

(reset indent) I'll enable flow on your wiki in the near future, but could you please request it here? If I enable it, it may be impossible to go back to wiki-markup style talk pages in the future. Also, to add that users as administrators in the future, follow these instructions:
 * Step 1: Navigate to their userpage
 * Either click on a link to their user in contributions, recent changes, or go to ListUsers on your wiki
 * Step 2: Click "user rights management" in the side bar on the left while on their userpage
 * Step 3: Check the box next to 'Administrator' on the rights management page, type a reason, and submit changes
 * -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 00:28, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Database errors on poserdazfreebies (handled)
There's a database error on poserdazfreebies that is causing page-loading problems. Instead of page content, I'm seeing:

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. * Function: DatabaseBase::selectRow * Error: 1146 Table 'poserdazfreebieswiki.pagetriage_page' doesn't exist (185.52.1.77)

I do see the categories that the pages have.

This is happening on all pages in the Main namespace that I've tried loading in the last few minutes. Talk and Category pages load correctly.

--Robkelk (talk) 23:49, 24 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, this was most likely a side-effect of me enabling Extension:PageTriage on your wiki. This should be fixed, and the extension should now work. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 00:21, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, the wiki is back to normal operations. Thank you! --Robkelk (talk) 12:18, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Unblock request for development.mh.o
Could you please unblock me on development.miraheze.org, and oversight the edit summary SleepyMode used to block me ?

Also, if you can, please globally lock SleepyMode himself, as the edit summary he used would actually, possibly make the block illegal due to the summary itself (if you can't, at least please block him on development.miraheze.org; the block was nowhere near necessary, and was more like a block done to attack me than a block done for a good reason).

Lemondoge T C GC 21:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * He will most likely not be globally locked, nor will he be blocked from his own wiki (he could just unblock himself). I'm investigating your contributions there, and the behavior of you both. I may take actions against either of you, both of you, or neither of you, in my role as a Development Wiki Supervisor, or in my role as a Miraheze Steward. Any actions I take will clearly acknowledge what role the action is taken in, so that counter-actions and discussion may be done accordingly. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:26, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I've unblocked Lemondoge on the wiki as a result of this request but under the authority of my local powers, not in my role as a Steward. Also, the block reason will not be suppressed, but I will publicly state that I think all of the block reasons were blatant lies. Additionally, this should now be discussed on that wiki, not here. Thanks, -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * PS, pls discuss here. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Lemondoge T C GC 00:40, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Right, so I wasn't attacking you but watching your inter-wiki actions, and as you did it yourself, you should know It is allowed to block users when feels necessary. SleepyMode (talk) 07:06, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Re: above, Please discuss it on your wiki as this wasn't really a matter for Stewards. Also, it's still my personal belief they did nothing on any wiki that could have warranted any block described as being caused for 'interwiki behavior' -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:13, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

About reassigning user rights on certain usergroups
Actually I don't request reassigning user rights of certain usergroups now but I want to ask whether I can request changing userrights of certain groups from default settings or making new types of usergroups authorized by bureaucrats. (like making new usergroups such as Transwiki importers or adding the rights of deleting pages to Autopatrolled users, etc, NOT giving someone rights of admins). --Utolee90 (talk) 09:06, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, I have one more question: are there any options to change the authority of reading some pages for only autoconfirmed users or sysops? I found there is no option on "protecting pages" to limit the authority of reading certain pages. It is not directly related to "protecting" pages from abusing, but it might be useful to limit spreading secret informations for administrating wikis. --Utolee90 (talk) 09:23, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You can request new user-groups at Request features. See List of permissions for a list of permissions, most of which we can add to custom groups. As for protecting pages, I'd be happy to add a custom 'read protect' over at test wiki and see if it works at all, but MediaWiki is not really meant to be a CMS. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Permanent Future Lab Flow
Since December 2015 (mediawiki update) the flow extension (user friendly discussion board) is not working anymore at https://permanentfuturelab.wiki/wiki/. Southparkfan looked into that by https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122329, but it looks like it took a long time to fix or it is not able to fix. I like to ask of we can start flow from scratch, because also since december it was not possible anymore to add topics to flow. When a user submit a topic, it is not saved.--Jurjendevries
 * Hey there, you can collect a group of people and re-create flow, I'm unsure of the situation but I will do my best and try to remake it myself. SleepyMode (talk) 07:17, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay this sounds stupid now. I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure they mean just re-enabling flow and losing old flow boards because flow is currently not working on this wiki due to corruption. Flow already works in other places. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:12, 28 April 2016 (UTC) Yes, as NDKilla wrote. I remove everything about flow now, install it as a clean one again. Then I can test if it works again. Thanks. --Jurjendevries (talk) 13:13, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Some image files are broken when they displayed as thumbnails
I uploaded some files on wiki Libre Wiki using special:upload. However, the wiki fails to render some files on thumbnails, and I found a file broken on even its file page. I confirmed that it has uploaded sucessfully like this, so broken thumbnails are clearly displaying errors. I want to solve these problems when uploading. Should I inform these errors on Github issue tracker? Were these errors informed already? --Utolee90 (talk) 16:02, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I missed some infos... I should not inform on Github, but might inform on Phabricator... More explicitly, the message "Unable to open image" error code 1 appears. I am not sure why it occurs but Korean file name might cause errors when converting image files NOW...  --Utolee90 (talk) 16:16, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Works for me (I did nothing). Does it still happen to you? Southparkfan (talk) 19:35, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I've checked they display well. Thanks for informing. --Utolee90 (talk) 02:23, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Math formula fails to render again.
I edited help pages about using LaTex, but I found that the  tag cannot convert math formula codes into PNG file when I select the math formula appearance option as "PNG file" on my Preference settings. I reported this problem last month and once fixed, but this converting error often occurs when I write new math formulas using tag. I checked that math formulas once converted into PNG images successfully, do NOT cause rendering error again no matter how they are complicated. Probably only new math formula scripts cause errors. And here is an example of math formulas failed to convert PNG files. It's very serious... Almost all math formula scrips do not work well... --Utolee90 (talk) 10:50, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * And you may ignore the error message "Fails to parse (Unknown function)", like $$\require $$or "Fails to parse (Syntax error)" because there might be some grammatical difference. I want you to focus only on the error message "PNG Conversion failed;", like $$a \qquad b $$... --Utolee90 (talk) 10:55, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This is tracked at https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T262. Southparkfan (talk) 12:20, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Database dump for backup/migration
Just wondering what the database backup/migration policy is, and if wiki-owners can request a dump of the database for their wiki (and presumably associated files, assuming they are not stored as database objects)?
 * Yes, any wiki can request a backup dump at any time, you can request at Request features. This includes files. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 04:38, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

No confirmation email
Most sites send a confirmation email, to confirm an email address, within a few seconds, I waited a few hours then requested a new confirmation, still nothing received after 2 days, so is the problem your end or mine?

I checked the address is OK and other emails arrive OK so am a bit stuck.RhianG (talk) 12:24, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Not to ask a stupid question, but have you checked your spam folder etc? I'll have some of the operations people look at the mail from our end. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:45, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Delivered-To: justin22622@gmail.com Received: by 10.55.131.131; Wed, 4 May 2016 05:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path:  Received: from mail.miraheze.org (mail.miraheze.org. [185.52.1.76])
 * Confirmed working from our end via Special:EmailUser and ConfirmEmail. Try checking your spam folders and adding noreply@miraheze.org to your contact list. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:54, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I tried to send again, there was nothing anywhere on my system, see what happens this time. I cannot use the Special:EmailUser as my mail address is not confirmed. Maybe you do not like my domain name, if I do not get a confirm message I try another domain.RhianG (talk) 11:09, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've looked into this and the issue is definitely not on our side. Looking at the mail log, the mail bounces on our side as the domain your email belongs to, firstly doesn't resolve any addresses at all but assuming it could be a networking issue, found out the domain address is not even registered. Could you please verify you entered the email address correctly as the one I'm seeing in the database does not exist? Thanks, John (talk) 22:21, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Revibot archiving open feature requests?
I've reverted some of Revibot's changes, because I noticed some of those feature requests were not tagged as "Status: Done". Ideally Revibot should only archive those requests if they have this status. , and others: please look which of those still need to be done. Thanks :) Southparkfan (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * From what I know, Revibot has been set to archive threads that have not been "edited" for 14 days, which we thought at first, was a reasonable time. I'm not sure it can be set to archive a thread based on a status. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 04:37, 6 May 2016 (UTC)