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Cannot create new page from search
Normally to create a MediaWiki page, you can simply search for the article in your search box. If the page is not found, MediaWiki will prompt you to create the page. However, on my wiki, I am not prompted to create a new page. I can create a new page if I create a link of a word that does not have a page, but I don't get the link to create a new page from searching a page that does not exist. Is there any feature that must be enabled?
 * try the instructions here. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 17:22, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * what you suggest works, but what I want is to be able to create a new page from a search of a page that does not exist. Arrobarriba
 * I'd suggest that you just work with what you've got. If you can create pages, that's the main thing. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 18:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've noticed a few peculiarities with the search functionality, but generally, what I do is when you type in a non-existent page, it should show up in the search bar as unbolded, italicized text. This means neither a page or redirect exists in that namespace. When you hit enter by right- or left-clicking, there will be a bluelink (if it exists on the wiki) and a redlink (if it does not). Click on the redlink to create the page. The italicized text denotes that you are conducting a search, not travelling directly to a page. Hope that helps? Dmehus (talk) 19:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

It's exactly the red link that does not come up after the search. Arrobarriba (talk) 19:12, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for adding the timestamp to your signature! Revibot thanks you, as it archives this page. Anyway, it comes up for me at the Wikipenne wiki. Which wiki is it? It comes up for me on any wiki I've visited, really. Dmehus (talk) 19:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * you're right, it was showing on the theme I had, but it's not in the present theme, which is what I would like to use. Try now. Arrobarriba (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense, so it could be a skin-related issue. For clarity, I am using the Vector skin. Which one are you using, is it a Miraheze preinstalled skin, or a custom skin? Also, unrelated, I noted Wikipenne is marked as "closed" due to dormancy. If you are wanting to keep the wiki, you can go into Special:ManageWiki to re-open it, as I believe you're a bureaucrat on that wiki. Dmehus (talk) 19:33, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm using the preinstalled theme MinervaNeue. I have reopened the wiki now, thanks. Arrobarriba (talk) 19:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That's good you were able to get your wiki re-opened. Thanks for the reporting the error with that skin. I'll ping a system administrator on Discord and see how to resolve this. I have re-added the section header that you accidentally reverted when replying (diff). Please be careful when replying on talk pages. Dmehus (talk) 19:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, I tried out the MinervaNeue skin on Meta and, indeed, I see what you mean in that there's no ability to create a page from search. I suspect this isn't a bug, but rather, it's the way in which the skin was designed. Have you tried checking out that link sent you above to see about modifying your MinervaNeue skin? That's the only thing I can think of. Dmehus (talk) 20:11, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * About that link, I want to try to add the Extension:InputBox, but I need to access the local files to install it. I am trying with FileZilla but I can't connect to the server, I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Unless there is another way to access the files and install the extensions, I am running out of options. Arrobarriba (talk) 22:09, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, a couple things. If you want an extension that's not in the full list of extensions Miraheze has approved, then you need to submit a Phabricator ticket using the "feature request" form. There's a security review by system administrators that has to take place before new MediaWiki extensions are deployed on Miraheze. You can find a more friendly, though not necessarily as complete, list of available extensions at Extensions here on Meta. As to FTP or SSH access, only system administrators have that access, so you won't be able to submit anything in that way. As to the problem with the skin, it does sound like you would need to customize it heavily; however, you should also be able to submit a Phabricator feature request outlining the functionality you're looking for in the MinervaNeue skin. Hope that helps. -- Doug
 * Cc., since I pinged him before

"Exception" error
Hello, and thank you again for your beautiful work!

My wiki is working well, but I have a problem when a new user has to set a new password at first access. The password input works, but after that I see a page which says (italian version):

Errore interno [6ed00020e037182f9468e092] 2020-01-16 10:55:53: Errore irreversibile di tipo "Exception"

Is it possible to fix it? (the best thing should be redirecting the user to a news page, like "Your account is ready, welcome and begin navigatioN"...
 * Hello, i took a look, and searching for 6ed00020e037182f9468e092 didn't bring up anything. I then noticed it said "2020-01-16 10:55:53" which is January 16th 2020. We don't keep logs till back then. Any current info you have (like from today)? Paladox (talk) 19:55, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Cite feature under visual editor
I have added a visual editor and citoid extensions, but when I try the "cite feature" I do not know how to enabble other formats aside from "basic". I would like a "books" and "journals" templates, or better yet, a system like en:Wikipedia where I just throw a link around and it tries to automatically fill and matches it to the appropriate template.MaGoV (talk) 13:41, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * PLEASE HELPMaGoV (talk) 10:46, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * does this help? ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 17:10, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Questions about Autoarchive specifications
When I refer to Autoarchive, it says "Bot only archives texts below h2 level section".How does the archive bot work if we use strikethrough in section?--松•Matsu (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2020 (UTC)


 * As Autoarchive recommends that authors use a date from 2099, within, to ensure that a section will not be archived, my guess is that the 'bot ignores MediaWiki markup.  It would see your timestamp and ignore the struck-through context.  This is what you want, as your recent comment should inhibit archiving even if you then saw fit to strike it through.  (I welcome correction from the owner of the 'bot.)   16:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply.When you check the example you taught me, it seems that the bot looks at the source and makes a correct judgment even if the section displayed on the display is broken.(∵Bot ignores markup.)When I check this difference , Void seems to have corrected it just in case.(Thank you for the fix.)--松•Matsu (talk) 04:26, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

There seems to be a dummy signature template that prevents sending to the past log.Could you consider introducing it?--松•Matsu (talk) 04:26, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I will try to reissue the proposal after testing on the testwiki, so I will withdraw once.--松•Matsu (talk) 13:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I created a trial version on the test wiki..Please see Template:Do not archive until.--松•Matsu (talk) 08:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Why am I not an autocomfrimed user yet?
I make a lot of edits on other wiki and why am I still not autocomfrimed Andrewbdfe (talk) 05:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Editing a lot on a wiki doesn't automatically make you confirmed PowerDagger15 (talk) 16:11, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that okay Andrewbdfe (talk) 21:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * To add to 's response, autoconfirmed user group is what's known as an implicit user group that is automatically granted to all registered user accounts upon reaching certain criteria. On Meta, and on most wikis, typically, one needs to make ten (10) edits and have had their account for more than four (4) days. See Special:ManageWiki/permissions/autoconfirmed for more detail. Dmehus (talk) 14:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

SVG thumbnails are rendering very blurry
I noticed that the past several SVG files I have uploaded to my wiki, are rendering thumbnails at extremely low resolution. Clicking through to the original svg file display the file properly within the browser window, but basically ALL the rendered PNG files, even when being rendered on a page, are blurry and basically unusable. Is there an issue with my wiki install? Is there a work-around? – Mitchell Gore (talk) 08:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm having this exact issue over on companybumpers.miraheze.org. See my post about 2 sections up. Hb1290 (talk) 00:12, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I found a working solution. I switched the SVG converter from “ImageMagick” to “Inkscape” in the wiki setting, and it seems to now render the SVGs are nice, clea, crips quality at all sizes. This is done by going into the Special:ManageWiki/settings page on your wiki, clicking on the "media" tab, then selecting the “Inkscape” in the “SVG converter” menu. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 14:13, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like you've found a working solution. See also this thread at the bottom of this noticeboard, in which I moved your duplicate post from the Meta administrators' noticeboard. AN is really only for local Meta problems or to request local rights on Meta only. If ever in doubt where to post as we have a few noticeboards, you can never go wrong with the community noticeboard. It's like a catch-all for community questions. Having said that, we have an active community and Miraheze staff on IRC and Discord and I have seen this question asked there...it was either paladox or RhinosF1 who answered the question, I think, but am not certain exactly as to the precise cause/solution. So you may wish to consider joining either (or both) of the IRC and/or Discord channels as often an answer is just minutes away (especially for quick answers to known problems/questions). Dmehus (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, just tried this solution to no avail, or does it take a while to fully take effect? EDIT: Nevermind, It's working nowHb1290 (talk) 05:06, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Hosting Custom Font
I have created a custom font face that I want to use (as a web font) for my RPG gaming wiki. Is there a way to upload the .woff (and/or the other format font files) and then utilize it as part fo the custom css for my wiki?

As this is a font face I have created form scratch, licensing of it is not an issue as I am the rights holder for the font.

What are the steps I need to take to actually get my custom font uploaded and/or installed and then referencing it within css as a web font for use across the entire wiki? — Mitchell Gore (talk) 06:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, you would need to upload the file via Special:Upload and then use @import css in MediaWiki:Common.css. If you need any help with this please let me know. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:03, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Why do we have to request wikis?
Why do we have to request wikis on here? Can't we have a tool that users can use to create the wikis themselves, like FANDOM does? Tali64³ (talk) 19:41, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The primary reason is to make sure that our Content Policy is being adhered to. The second reason is to prevent a massive flood of wiki creations that could crash the servers. Amanda Catherine (talk) 20:16, 6 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Why not hire more volunteers to close wikis that violate the Content Policy? Or upgrade your current servers? Or get more servers? Tali64³ (talk) 15:49, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I would say that crashing the servers doesn't seem likely by simply creating wikis. As for the suggestion of closing wikis that violate the policies that would be difficult as we can't monitor everything. We are currently working on an artificial intelligence system that will allow more wikis to be created automatically, however. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:00, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I tried to understand this (and the dormancy policy) a while back but have yet to recieve a convincing explination for either of these. I really think that they are problems Miraheze has created for itself unecicarily. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 17:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Speed bumps are occasionally good things. :) DMBFFF (talk) 22:11, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Skin is currently stuck and unchangeable.
I can't change the skin on my own wiki or even my personal preference for this one. It is always stuck looking like this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616667977852518400/729803875510386800/unknown.png.

I've tried going through Special:Preferences and over to appearance to change my skin, but it is STILL stuck. I've removed all customization from .css.

I am incredibly frustrated and very close to just deleting my account all together. All I wanted was to use this program to create a fake wikipedia page for a school project but nothing is working. ARavenInATree (talk) 21:02, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Have you checked if you are in mobile view? That is the default mobile skin. Hb1290 (talk) 02:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * How do I check if I'm on mobile view? ARavenInATree (talk) 22:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Scroll all the way to the bottom and look for the desktop/mobile view button. If the button reads "Desktop", you're in mobile view. Hb1290 (talk) 09:44, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

WikiHorses move to miraheze: when trying to import pages fails
When i try to import full pages and history to miraheze from horses.fandom.com, gives me "Import failed: Expected tag, got". Pls, help me!

--Einstein8P (talk) 21:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Try again. Sometimes it takes a few goes. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 17:00, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Use template arguments in
When making mh:silentblue:Template:YouTube, I used the variable extension to use the second argument as the video ID. However, the same doesn't work with tags. (See mh:silentblue:Template:nicovideo) Of course directly using doesn't work either. Is there a way to achieve what I want? (Note that, due to the current Content Security Policy configurations, nicovideo embeds would not load. The only way to see if it worked correctly is to see the HTML source code in Inspect Elements. I've already reported the CSP problem as a comment under T5535, but this is a separate problem.) Jack980517 (talk) 16:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Solved: More information Pinging who had a similar problem with the gallery extension. Jack980517 (talk) 19:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I ended up using Tabber instead of Gallery. Arracso (talk) 20:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I want to connect to free subdomain (from freedns.afraid.org).
I want to connect to free subdomain (from freedns.afraid.org).I can't understand anything. I want to change address from SciencePedia.miraheze.org to SciencePedia.awiki.org Please help me...
 * I'm afraid I don't know much about the subdomain system (apparently you have to request it somewhere) but you could try the Discord. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 16:59, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Running a News Site
Heya! Does anyone have a wikinews or blog-like site setup on miraheze? I'm fairly new to mediawiki and DynamicPageList3 is giving me trouble. So if anyone has a tutorial or some examples I could look at that would be super helpful!

CarolynKS (talk) 18:00, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I use DPL on the Front Page at The Mirror; you can look at that. One thing I have come to know is that there are many, many different implementations of DPL.  On Wikia Uncyclopedia, we used DPL to sort authors in the Hall of Shame by number of featured articles.  But now at , we have a DPL with no numerical sort capability at all.   22:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks! This is exactly what I needed.
 * CarolynKS (talk) 23:01, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Category Issue
When I load up a category, it will say nonsense followed by Fatal exception of type "MWException". Why on Earth would it do something like that, but what makes it worse is it they were working fine yesterday and then all of a sudden, this happens, why does it do that?Μπέλα2006 (talk) 15:30, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Update: Category’s are working again.Μπέλα2006 (talk) 15:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Miraheze's servers are unreliable and have a tendency to have momentary outages. It could be one of them. ~ El Komodos Drago (talk to me) 15:23, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what caused that error that Μπέλα2006 reported, but I'm going to ping RhinosF1 to this thread as he be able to offer some insight. Separately, this is unrelated to the above fatal exception error, but just thought I'd note this category-related bug which I've recently reported and which is tracked on Phabricator at T5905 (in case anyone has also noticed and wondered about that bug). Dmehus (talk) 15:35, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add interwiki link https://forum.snap.berkeley.edu/t/$1 to interwiki table on Snap! Wiki
I am an admin there, (snapwiki.miraheze.org) and I am requesting to add this interwiki link. https://forum.snap.berkeley.edu/t/$1 links to forum posts. This will make creating citations easier. It would be in the format topic:$1 Thanks in advance! GrahamSH (talk) 19:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You have two options here. You can request for a global interwiki administrator to add this link to your wiki's Special:Interwiki. Or, if you are needing to add multiple sites to your Special:Interwiki, you may wish to hold a local election or appointment process, consistent with your local wiki's policies, to appoint a local interwiki administrator on your wiki alone that can add sites to your wiki's Special:Interwiki. As only stewards can add this user right, whether part of the local or global group, you can then visit Stewards' noticeboard when your local election or appointment process is complete and request that a steward grant that user right locally on your wiki. If you are on Discord, you may be able to message the @Stewards group, either to notify them of the request on-wiki or possibly to make the request. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, did you want that link to be forward-enabled so external links can follow those interwiki links or not? Let me know which option you would prefer, whether a global interwiki administrator to attend your wiki and add it or if you'd prefer to organize a local election or appointment process on your wiki. If the former, I can connect with a recently active interwiki administrator. Dmehus (talk) 13:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I think we will have an election, but for now, can you get a interwiki administrator to do it. I do want it to forward. GrahamSH (talk) 15:37, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, I will ping to this thread to follow up with you on your wiki and add the interwiki link as requested. They've been fairly active the past few days, so that's why I picked them from the list. If you don't hear from them within 2-3 calendar days, re-ping me, and I'll find another interwiki administrator. Dmehus (talk) 16:06, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ 21:09, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . Just checked Snap's interwiki and noticed it reads as . I think you might've missed the number   after the  ? Dmehus (talk) 22:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅! 22:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It should be forward enabled.
 * ✅ by (log) Dmehus (talk) 15:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Why does nobody listen to me
I want to known how people can’t respond to my questions?㊗️⚽️Μπέλα2006⚽️㊗️ (talk) 20:54, 11 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Some people are more inactive for some days. Also, some people take a lot of breaks. 14:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Summer time. DMBFFF (talk) 22:15, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Uploading screenshot
Trying to add a screenshot to showing how to switch the SVG converter setting, as a way to illustrate a fix for blurry SVG rendering. Is there way to allow image uploads here? I tried to upload it, but I got a warning saying it wasn't allowed without an admisnntrator approval. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 14:13, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have moved your out of scope question from AN to the community noticeboard where general technical suppport type questions related to Miraheze and wikis in general are asked. As to your question, I have seen this question often on Discord and IRC, but am not sure what the exact solution is. Going to ping as I believe one or both of them may know the answer. Dmehus (talk) 15:54, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: Mitchell seems to have found a working solution in a section higher up on this page. Not going to merge the two threads as I think it would be confusing, but rather provide this link. Dmehus (talk) 16:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Vote
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I have a question for you: should we have a wiki on here like the Wiki Gazetteer on FANDOM? Put your vote in the headings below! And remember to sign your posts with ~. Tali64³ (talk) 20:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes

 * 1) Why not? This would not be a bad idea for someone looking for a specific wiki. --TFFfan (talk) 21:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Native SVG file handling
Currently SVG files are rendered as a ONG when used as an image on a wiki page. However this defeats many of the reasons why creating graphics in the SVG format are better than pixel-based images. It also precludes any of the interactive aspects that can be put into an SVG fit (mouse-overs, clickable links when clicking on a part of the image, etc.).


 * Is there a way to bypass SVG rendering into PNGs and simply display/deliver the image as the SVG file itself and let the browser do the rendering?

I read a little bit about the Extension:NativeSvgHandler over on MediaWiki and this appears to be what that extension is and does.


 * Has this ever been installed into a wiki hosted here on Miraheze?
 * If so, what (if any) issues, etc. came up?

I am hoping that this is a viable solution, as I have some complex map SVG files I have created for my RPG gaming wiki, that have a bunch of interactive elements in the (mouse over legends of map locations, links to other map files, etc.) that would all really need to be displayed/delivered natively as SVGs instead of displayed as rasterized PNG images. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 21:01, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Question about the commission election
Is it possible to nominate other users to be code of conduct commissioners? DeeM28 (talk) 07:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Template help
I’m in need of importing some templates. I’m worried tho, is there any gnarly css and modules to import this?

Template on:

https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

You know, that little image carousel thingy

Thanks

•• Fair0002 • Bureaucrat and Administrator of Crazybloxian Empire Wiki 07:57, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * delving into the source of that page, here is the code you'll need:


 * Obviously sub in your files where the .jpgs are and write captions as needed. The only template you need is this one. Neccessary CSS and Javascript can be found here and here. Put those in Mediawiki:common.css and common.js respectively, unless you want to use gadgets. Hb1290 (talk) 11:05, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

New Account Permissions/Notification on a Private Wiki
My wiki is a private wiki (as it needs to be) but I want to have a better understanding of how I can set up notifications of new user accounts when they are created, so that I can control and easily process, said new accounts. With a private wiki, accounts need to be “members” in order to actually view and edit pages. On a private wiki, accounts that are not made “members” can only view the main page.

As the “admin” and “bureaucrat” for my wiki, what's can I do to be notified when a new account is created, grant it the needed “member” status, etc.?

What are best practices in setting up and managing such issues? – Mitchell Gore (talk) 17:06, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Special:Log/newusers is probably the best way to monitor new user creations, or attachments, for your private wiki; however, I would strongly encourage you not to locally block users who merely visit the public Main Page of your wiki as their accounts are attached just by clicking through to your wiki. I don't get the idea you were going to do this, but just wanted to point that out for other private wiki owners. Regarding Special:Log/newusers. there's no Atom feed for that log page directly, but what you could do is transclude it as, optionally parsed by a "date since" and then every month or so, just update the "date since" to declutter the transcluded page. This would allow you to monitor the Atom feed for that page. It should be quick and easy to set up. Dmehus (talk) 17:20, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * “however, I would strongly encourage you not to locally block users who merely visit the public Main Page of your wiki as their accounts are attached just by clicking through to your wiki.” –


 * Correct, I wasn't looking to do this. I was mainly asking what best practices are to set-up/maintain processing any new account so that I can grant them “member” status when they sign-up. Currently, someone could go the front page of my wiki, create an account, but since there is no way that I would be notified the account was created, it would just sit there in limbo. That new account would only be able to see the main page, but not see or do anything else. But since by default there is no notification that a new account was created, as an admin I would not know about it in order to rectify that situation by granting “member” status.


 * I'm not sure I fully understand what you are suggesting about transcluding the  page. Simply putting   on a page (like my user page) simply makes it a link to the log page. Which is handy as a quick link, but doesn't really solve the issue of notification of a new account being created.


 * Granted it isn't a case of a many people coming to my wiki and creating accounts at this point. But setting up a proper workflow/system to have me be notified, so I can process new account permissions in a timely manner would be helpful. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 17:56, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's more or less a quick and easy way to transclude the recent user creations onto an actual page of your wiki that has a built-in Atom feed you can monitor from any RSS/Atom feed reader. There's probably an easier way, and you could probably have a miraheze IRC sub-channel or Discord feed set up for your wiki, though this would include all wiki activity and would have to be customized in some way for certain logs, pages, etc. Are you on Discord or IRC? Probably the easiest way for either of those options would be to ask a system administrator for assistance in setting up a Discord bot for wiki or for setting up a miraheze sub-channel for your wiki on IRC. Dmehus (talk) 18:02, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Except  doesn't actually transclude anything. It simply renders as a link to the log page. As for the RSS/Atom feed stuff, that's talking right over my head. – Mitchell Gore (talk) 18:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, it actually is transcluding something; it's transcluding the contents of that special log page into a normal page on the wiki. The wiki software is configured to display only a certain number of log entries per page (usually defaults to 50) depending on the user's set preferences, so whatever the system default is set to is what should be transcluded on that normal page. As for RSS/Atom feed readers, essentially, it is type of structured data that allows the content of a webpage to be read various software packages and rendered in a myriad of formats, constantly updated in (near) real-time. The content of a page, blog post, wiki page, etc., is sectioned off into various elements, and those elements are how the various software packages read the content and notify the user of updates. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 18:49, 18 July 2020 (UTC)