Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Statistics about wikis


 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * After discussion with other members of MediaWiki Engineering, we have determined this is unfeasible for us. Please use the alternatives you yourself have mentioned in order to collect statistics. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 20:54, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Proposed by YellowFrogger

Proposal summary:

Full proposal: Let's go into details. There was a CW here that will probably not be accepted due to addressing third-party opinions on wikis. But instead of doing that, why don't we use a receiver that collects data from API.php (something like that), Special:Statistics. We have WikiApiary for that, but creating a less limited project where we can collect data from a wiki to compare them (graphically, not in content) content specifically) to see the growth of both and see issues, articles, coming up in real time. Perhaps this is better and less slow than the WikiaPiary location.

I'll cite the reasons for this and what to do:
 * The WikiApiary site is a little slow to update; both on the server and in the graphics. Also, there are no features listed above.
 * MH can create a replacement site for this "Meta" where we can see the real-time growth of each desired wiki.

If there is any programmer who collects the API data it would be interesting

Discussion

 * I was almost preparing a request note for this, seems YellowFrogger was a bit faster. Taking Wikimedia's Wikistat as a sample, It would make sense if we have this. Or at least Tweaking XTools for Miraheze. Because MatomoAnalytics for me, isn't the best option, it seems more like an Old fashioned analytics means. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   09:58, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, Wikistats may be incompatible with our setup and XTools isn't catered for non-WMF settings. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 11:22, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * TBQH, we can tweak XTools to work for Miraheze, I mean, I actually have a fork of it, and I have been going through it since then. I don't know how Wikistats may be incompatible with our setup. I mean, If it's because of MatomoAnalytics, I wouldn't hesitate to hold a conference with System Administrators briefing them with why Matomo seems old-fashioned, heh :), but tbs, We really need a more statistical toolset for Miraheze, and Tweaked XTools and maybe Wikistats are great options. --   Joseph  TB  CT  CA   11:41, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I reviewed your fork of XTools, all you seem to have done is changed a few system messages away from Wikimedia to Miraheze/FAMEPedia. What I'm talking about are actual code changes. Additionally, I'm not too well informed on the topic but I don't think the issue is Matomo but instead that Wikimedia uses a more complex setup which requires another web service and more resources for their analytics. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 12:18, 23 December 2021 (UTC)


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