Meta:Requests for permissions

InspecterAbdel (Wiki creator)

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 * by the candidate per request, with a personal recommendation to reach out to Reception123 or myself in two to three months time to engage in a mentorship arrangement prior to re-requesting, or being nominated for, wiki creator. Dmehus (talk) 12:29, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

User: InspecterAbdel ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: The reason why I want to be a wiki creator is that A. There aren't much active wikicreators (the situation is improving tho) B. I want to make sure that the requests don't violate the Content Policy and the Code of Conduct. I sometimes help out on the CN, and I want to help more by being a wikicreator. Here are what I would do if I saw these requests: That's why I want to be a wiki creator, let me know if you have concerns about what I said above.
 * 1) "This wiki will be good" - Decline - This does not show what content will the wiki be about nor does it tell us clearly if there's an obvious content policy violation
 * 2) "This is a wiki about a mod called "Fantasies" in Minecraft. There will be pages about blah blah.." - Accept - Request shows that the wiki will follow the policies and has a clear purpose
 * 3) "This wiki will expose a youtuber called PewDiePie" - Decline - Obvious CoP and CoC violation
 * 4) "jhcdhehfhfehfhfhufrh" - Decline - trolling
 * 5) "This wiki will be about minecraft" - Decline but ask - Not enough detail about what the scope is about
 * 6) "Come buy my product - This wiki is an ad" - Decline - A wiki cannot take form of an ad

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * 1) DuchessTheSponge (talk) 19:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I do not believe that a support lacking justification is pertinent to wiki creator requests. This is because the policy states that "[T]here is no minimum support percentage for the wiki creator role. A steward will close the request and make a decision based on the comments from the Community." Because of this I think that it would be useful for you to provide a justification for your support. --DeeM28 (talk) 15:44, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  How would you respond to the following requests, and why? If any factors not stated in the hypothetical would affect your choice, please state how so.
 * Reason: "political simulation"; assume a fitting name with no reason of its own
 * Name: "Racial Science Wiki"; Reason: "To create a resource, backed by reliable sources, for the apolitical documentation of the theories of race science"
 * Reason: "松伴私福奪住画控徳当 策帯変景女擁図財稿人北社位断者取 争校発質体蓮融英力外問 百沢方正直 / to document public figures"
 * Domain: "hatefulcommunitieswiki"; Reason: "A wiki to document hateful internet communities which will abide by strict sourcing requirements"
 * Name: "Marxism-Leninism Wiki"; Reason: "To document the intricacies of Marxist-Leninist ideology, theory, leaders, movements, parties, including those of revisionists."
 * Reason: "personal wiki for me and my friends"; assume a fitting name with no issues of its own
 * Name: "Race-Realism Wiki"; Reason: "To document the theories of correlation between race and other human characteristics, and to document the debate around such theories"
 * Name: "Encyclopedia Dramatica"; Reason: "A version of Encyclopedia Dramatica hosted on Miraheze, to avoid reliance on unreliable hosting"
 * After you decline request #3 (in your list), the requestor re-submits with the description "This wiki will document controversies surrounding the youtuber PewDiePie, and will require citations"
 * — Arcversintalk 20:09, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Decline - because the reason is too short
 * Accept - Detailed reason and clear scope
 * Decline and ask to clarify the request
 * Decline - Content policy violation
 * Accept - Detailed reason and clear scope
 * Decline and ask to clarify the request
 * Accept - Detailed reason and clear scope
 * I really don't know on this one
 * Accept and ask to follow policies.
 * InspecterAbdel (NLW) 04:28, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The Content Policy states that "Things which have a tendency to draw unwelcome attention to the wiki farm, such as hate speech ... can create conditions that penalize other wikis ... If we believe that your wiki proposal will hinder other wikis, we may decline your request". Do you see any such issues with hypothetical requests #2, #5, or #7? — Arcversintalk 14:22, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:32, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * per responses to my questions, particularly #7. — Arcversin (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 1)  He Does not seem to understand the content or Policy's of being a wiki creator, also From my point of view i  Don't see much Knowledge of being a wiki Creator nor do i think the user understand what a wiki creator is Perhaps If you try again in a few months I can possibly support this If you shown you Have more Knowledge Although I did Recommend him start as a wiki creator I just do not think he is ready. but out of good faith i will weak oppose this  --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) *I have read the Content Policy before I made this request at least 3 times. That's a silly accusation to make ("He Does not seem to understand the content or Policy's of being a wiki creator, also From my point of view i Don't see much Knowledge of being a wiki Creator nor do i think the user understand what a wiki creator") InspecterAbdel (NLW) 13:23, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 3)  per the responses to Arcversin's questions (in particular, questions 4, 8, and 9, which were either partially incorrect or where the reason provided was not satisfactory, and supplementary question and, secondarily, mainly per mild civility issues in the way which they handled their response to Cocopuff2018. While Cocopuff2018 may have provided better justification for why they suspected the candidate may not have a full understanding of and/or ability to apply, consistently, Content Policy to wiki requests, it's not a "silly accusation to make" merely because one has read the Content Policy several times. Similar to the comments I and others provided in Cocopuff2018's request above, I do think this is a bit of a case of being too soon, and would suggest engaging with an existing wiki creator in a mentorship arrangement and re-applying in several months time. Dmehus (talk) 14:40, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 4)  I agree with the views expressed above. The answers to the question could have been better (but were not terrible over all in my view) and similar to what I said about Cocopuff2018 above I believe that this request is being made too soon and InspecterAbdel should take more time to understand the Content Policy and continue to be active on Meta. I would be willing to reconsider my vote at a later time. --DeeM28 (talk) 15:44, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 5) I'd have to agree with what was said above and think that more understanding of the Content Policy is needed. I'd be willing to mentor you (as Dmehus suggested above) if you'd like, and then you could re-apply at a later time. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 6) *Yeah maybe, I withdraw this request. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 01:19, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 7) **Would you like me to withdraw it for you, InspecterAbdel? Dmehus (talk) 01:22, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 8) ***yes InspecterAbdel (NLW) 04:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) ***yes InspecterAbdel (NLW) 04:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


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Arcversin (Wiki creator)

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 * ✅, with thanks to the candidate for volunteering. Some helpful tips for new wiki creators will be shared with you shortly via your user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 17:06, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

User: Arcversin ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: As a meta patroller, I often come across wiki requests alongside edits and other activity while monitoring, and I'd like to help out by responding to them, as I believe that I have a sufficient understanding of the Content policy (along with the Wiki creators' guide) in order to do so, especially from observing requests while patrolling.

Additional comments: Feel free to ask questions below. — Arcversin (talk) 20:08, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * 1)  This user has showed strong understanding of policies, helps a lot, and in general seems like a great person for the job.  Buk kit  (talk) ( C ) 00:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2)  As per 's vote, this user shows strong understanding of Miraheze's policies and in general seems like they would be a great fit for this position. ~ Ronja  (u • t • c) 14:09, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


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Andrew071117 (Wiki creator)

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 * by the candidate per request on  Buk kit  (talk) ( C ) 00:36, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

User: Andrew071117 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: I will be a good wiki creator and if I see a troll wiki request I will decline it but if I see a detailed one I will accept it

Additional comments: I am new to editing so It is very likely to be denied.

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * 1)  User doesn't seem to understand the scope, purpose or any type of responsibility, border-line hat collecting and recently abused multiple accounts, and had been previously locked for a prior issue. There's no chance I'd support this in any way.- DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:33, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


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Ronjapatch (sysop)

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 * by the candidate per their request. Dmehus (talk) 14:20, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

User: Ronjapatch ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: sysop Reason: I am active on the English Wikipedia, mainly battling vandalism and trolls. I revert 10+ bad faith edits, 25+ vandalism edits & 5+ page wipes a day. I am requesting Sysop here as to help combat these problems here and also gain valuable experience before I try and work my way to to requesting sysop on the English Wikipedia.

Additional comments: I spend around 8 hours a day on all Wikimedia projects and I like to believe I am a trusted member of the community. ~ Ronja  (u • t • c) 14:09, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions
 * 1)  As you have only been around on Miraheze for a little over a month and only have made 8 global edits, three of which were to making this permissions request and vote in other permissions requests, I'd suggest you become more active on the noticeboards, introduce yourself on either Discord and/or IRC, and perhaps request a wiki or two, and build said wiki(s) first. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 14:15, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) *Thank you for your input, I greatly appreciate it. Will take your advice and get my name known a little bit more before I request permissions. Please feel free to deny per request. ~ Ronja  (u • t • c) 14:17, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) **Ronjapatch Would you like to withdraw your request then? Dmehus (talk) 14:18, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 4) ***Yes please, that would be appreciated, regards, ~ Ronja  (u • t • c) 14:19, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


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