User talk:Hookuai

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I'm sorry
I'm sorry that I got easily manipulated by 50.5.139.167's ideology of banned users and his false accusations (the banned users list wasn't my idea, but his), but the claim you made about me being an SJW is false, but since you had blocked me from some wikis, I had to apologize for believing what that slanderous user had said, but since I do not wish to be associated with Miraheze anymore, please ask the stewards to globally lock my account. I do not want to be on this platform anymore.

Thanks f9r informing me this -- H ookuai ( Talk to Nuclear Jaws ) 01:17, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Hmmm
I will stay away for now. Though if I see blatant vandalism I will still undo it. Less often though as I need time to ponder. It would be nice if the others would stop their mockery, but you take what you get. It was good to have talked. GondorChicken (talk) 17:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Notice on your local talkpage regarding the Code of Conduct
Please note I've left you a notice on your local talkpage regarding the CoC. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 17:52, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Stop Blocking me for unfair reasons
This isn’t anything about you in general, I think your a fine user but please stop calling me a bully (I am really not a bully, I am a Pleasant user) and blocking me for unfair reasons, I am not a kid, I am a teen. I blocked you on my AOC2 wiki for being a Bully to me. I don’t want to have to deal with users like you. Please give me a chance. If you keep making me Infuriated, I may have to report you if anything horrible happens. I’m just saying, don’t call me a bully.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 23:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I did note 's uncivil block summaries towards you (in the  on Discord)—he should've simply said "excessively advertising his wiki" or "excessively asking for assistance on his wiki after being advised to stop," and I would, personally, urge Hookuai to keep his edit summaries civil and clean. That being said, as I've said on your talk page here on Meta, you do need to dial it back a bit in terms of promoting your wiki or asking for volunteers in multiple venues. I encourage you to connect on IRC or Discord and discuss strategies to promote your wiki or garner additional volunteers, in addition to your community noticeboard thread. As for the local blocks, I would recommend that you speak with Hookuai and ask him to shorten the block, acknowledging your behaviour that led to the block. I suspect Hookuai will also consider my comments here, and may unblock you and reblock you with a cleaner, more civil edit summary, and would just remind the both of you of your obligations to the Code of Conduct, which you're both expected to adhere to and that your actions (including blocks, block summaries, and the like) are covered by the CoC. Dmehus (talk) 23:55, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * But he called me a bully when I’m not and he’s ruining my reputation on miraheze.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 23:59, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * While I can't speak for all Mirahezians, I generally do not care about whatever local blocks (other than those on Meta, Commons, Template Wiki, and a limited number of other Miraheze community wikis) users may have (some stewards and Global Sysops have been locally blocked for arguably dubious reasons, for example), so I will just point out that only you are responsible for your reputation on Miraheze, just as is responsible for his reputation on Miraheze. Both of you have separate issues, which I will deal with separately. It isn't acceptable for Hookuai to call you a bully, but whether this calls for intervention from a global functionary, I tend to think not. This can be resolved, on Meta if necessary, through diplomacy and mediation, as required. But, as far as you are concerned, I would just point out that only you control that, and I would advise you to look thoroughly and deeply at your your own recent actions and behaviour, just as I would advise Hookuai to look closely and inwardly at his own behaviour in terms of his block summaries. Dmehus (talk) 00:06, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * So well, if someone calling me a bully is not allowed, so would you in case, temporarily lock Hookuai for a week to prevent him from blocking me from more wikis?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 00:10, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No, for two reasons, in order of importance. First, locking Hookuai for that very ridiculous reason would be a gross dereliction of duty and an egregious abuse of power, which would almost certainly result in loss of permissions. Second, I am not a steward or Global Sysop. But I go back to the first reason, and point out that that is a ludicrous idea. The solution here is mediation of your dispute with Hookuai, on Meta if required, in which I'm happy to engage. I would also point out that only last week asked you, on your talk page, to stop blocking him for dubious reasons. In that case, I mediated the dispute, and you unblocked him. I believe we can reach an amicable solution for all parties here, but your requesting such ridiculous ideas like locking Hookuai will not help. Dmehus (talk) 00:14, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This is not the first time I had to deal with a annoying user, the first time was about a month ago when I had to deal with a user that called me a D**k on my very talk page, he was locked for vandalism, so a warning on this users talk page would help.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 00:20, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've cautioned Hookuai above with regard to civility issues and the Code of Conduct; however, I am not familiar with that instance. I would just note that being called a "dick" versus a "bully" are very different circumstances, and, arguably, your blocking from your wikis despite him never having contributed to your wiki was being like a bully. Dmehus (talk) 00:23, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

I think Hookuai really needs to learn a lesson, do you agree with me?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 00:26, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure this warrants further response, as enough digital ink has been spilled in this discussion, but as I said here and on your user talk page, I remain available to help mediate the dispute between you and, should you both request it. Until then, I'm not sure there's anything that needs to happen here, other than I would just advise the two of you to keep your distance from each other (i.e., stay off each other's wikis) until such time as you're ready to resolve this dispute and put this behind you. Dmehus (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, Does that mean I block him on my wikis?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 00:52, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That's up to you. Personally, I would hope the two of you can work together and resolve this, without further blocks and, hopefully, both of you can unblock each other, as I see strong positive elements to your potential abilities in the Miraheze community. But your wikis are your wikis, just as Hookuai's wikis are his wikis. I'll leave this in your court. Dmehus (talk) 00:59, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * But I don’t like working with users that call me a bully and block me for uncivil reasons.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 01:01, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This comment to me suggests you are nowhere near ready to move past your current issues with Hookuai. Until you are able to assess your own behaviour, separate from Hookuai assessing his actions elsewhere from Meta, I would strongly recommend you keep your distance from Hookuai on Meta. If you find yourself having trouble staying away from his user talk page on Meta, you can self-request a partial block of his user talk page (just as he may self-request a partial block from your user talk page, if he wishes). Until you're both ready to look past this and move forward toward reconciliation, we're at the stage where the two of you need to avoid each other as much as possible on Meta. I would strongly wish to avoid either a one- or two-way interaction ban (on Meta) between the two of you. Dmehus (talk) 01:38, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * These reasons why I blocked you because you're flat out annoying in general, and you're acting nonsensical wnevener you add your edit summary. And I did this was because you made a false allegation saying that I'm a bully when you are because you are completely shoving everything towards random users faces. People find you a stranger. -- H ookuai ( Talk to Nuclear Jaws ) 02:13, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response. While it is your right to block from your wikis, just as it his right to block you from his wikis, your block summaries should've been more civilized. There's no need to personalize your block summaries in an uncivilized manner. You should've just said something like "excessively advertising and asking for help with his wikis when asked to stop." Nevertheless, would you be amenable to unblocking him if he (a) stays off your wikis and (b) unblocks you? Likewise, Μπέλα2006, would you be amenable to unblocking Hookuai from your wikis if he (a) stays off your wikis and (b) unblocks you? Dmehus (talk) 13:37, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

New Issue, DuchessTheSponge Has blocked me on many wikis forever for no reason at all, they just say See Crappy Games which is not civil, the only wiki i got out of my ban is first class which is because I have admin powers there, but everything else is just nonsense, I have been on miraheze for almost 4 months which makes me an established user. I am Scared that he may report me for a lock, which would me make flee to my alt account (Bellas Test Account). DuchessTheSponge is Just Now the worst user I have even dealt with.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 13:41, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * First, any reason why you raised this question on 's user talk page, and not your own or mine? Second, yes, unfortunately, some users block locally for no reason it all (whether you, Hookuai, or DuchessTheSponge). Unless there's a global policy violation, though, there's little that can be done. If DuchessTheSponge tried to have you locked for being locally blocked on more than one wiki or having an alternate account, that would be ludicrous, and she would be quickly shut down by or I. As for your alternate account, that is one thing that might potentially get you into trouble. Do not use that account on wikis where your Μπέλα2006 account has been locally blocked, as that constitutes local ban evasion and contravention of user accounts policy. If you worry about your ability to manage between your main and your alternate account, you can self-request a global lock of your alternate account, User:BellasTestAccount, from any steward or Global Sysop. Dmehus (talk) 14:39, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Please Don’t Lock me Dmehus, I Am A good faith user :(.--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 14:46, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * First, I am not a Global Sysop or steward. Second, locking you wouldn't be appropriate here. Third, please re-read what I wrote, slowly and carefully. That's not what I suggested. My point of replying was to ease your concerns. Finally, let me know where you are still confused. Dmehus (talk) 15:02, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * DuchessTheSponge is actually a male. -- H ookuai ( Talk to Nuclear Jaws ) 15:18, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Now should you just fairly unblock me and start working together?--Μπέλα2006🌎 (talk) 15:24, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for the clarification. I assumed, logically, because of the duchess. If it had been duke, then I would've logically assumed male. It's good to have that clarified. Dmehus (talk) 15:25, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Are you sure you'll improve? Because I need to know before I can unblock you. Also, I might tell you how to improve if you're sorry.-- 11:54, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

September 2020
Hi Hookuai,

I've previously provided guidance to you with respect to signing your posts with four tildes, with which you promptly complied. Now, though, I've noticed your signature is formatted to break the flow of talk page discussions, and am requesting you fix your signature coding to remove the extra line break following the link to your user page and before the link to your user talk page. I've had to remove this unnecessary and problematic line break nearly a dozen times from your posts, as it is breaking the flow of talk page discussions, per established conventions.

Thanks for your understanding, cooperation, and compliance with this request. :)

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 15:32, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know how, but do I have to like fix my signature? -- H ookuai ( Talk to Nuclear Jaws ) 16:53, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes because your signature breaks the flow of talk page, user talk page, and noticeboard discussions, as seen here. Note that it is just the line break that is causing the problem. I personally really like the font colouring and styling of your signature. There's no other other issue with your signature; it's just that line break. The reason is because on talk pages and noticeboards, people reply by indenting. When your signature wraps onto a new line, it breaks the indentation. I will help you fix it. If you click on this link, what do you see in the "signature" line? You should see your transcluded signature file and a trailing, or something similar. Remove that trailing  . If you do not see that, copy and paste here, by way of a reply, wrapped in   tags. Dmehus (talk) 18:33, 4 September 2020 (UTC)