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How much storage space does Miraheze have?
Well, My wiki, Crazybloxian Empire, could get large pretty soon. How much storage space does the wiki-hosting service have?

Wiki URL change request
Hey! I wanted to know if it's possible to change the "adventuretime" in to "digimon" in the adventuretimewiki's URL given a change in focus. If it is, then I would like for it to not redirect to our new url if possible. Here's the URL to the wiki I'm talking about
 *  https://adventuretime.miraheze.org  (I just want  https://adventuretime  replaced with  https://digimon  if it's doable)

Thanks in advanced!-Jordan D (talk) 07:57, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved from SN Yes, that is possible. Would you be able to request that on Phabricator to facilitate tracking? Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 08:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That would be nice, yes. Thanks. Sorry for replying so late, I didn't see this.-Jordan D (talk) 16:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I am short of hands
I do not have enough hands. What should I do?--ウソつき (talk) 05:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * So you mean, you're too busy working on your wiki? One way is to find someone who can work as admin/BC there (I can, if you wish).-- 06:00, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

error
When opening usar: talk of my wiki, the screen "[4ce93e5b3f1e5921d3bb3f8d] 2018-08-02 08: 51: 35: Fatal exception of type MWUnknownContentModelException" is displayed. What should I do?--ウソつき (talk) 09:01, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please give a link to the page for us to be able to help. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 09:03, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, it is this. We will look into it. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 09:10, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. It was because you enabled but then disabled Flow. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 09:15, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * How can I deal with it?--ウソつき (talk) 09:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You don't have to do anything related to it anymore. Please just try to be careful when you turn on mw:Extension:Flow when you create your next wiki.-- 09:29, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Special:Import not working
I'm trying to import templates to my wiki (https://hasanistan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page), like I had done before successfully, and it does not work and comes up with "Import failed: No page to import!".

Please help, thanks in advance! -OIMGov (talk) 18:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe your templates have already been imported. Did you check the log?-- 05:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Can't be visited in China Mainland?
When I enter miraheze, I get no response, unless I 翻墙, which means miraheze seems to be block.

http://tool.chinaz.com/speedtest/miraheze.org

Why can't it be visited in China Mainland? --SolidBlock (talk) 11:14, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It's probably because of the great firewall of the Chinese government. You can avoid it by using VPN.-- 11:37, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Since 1.31 importing pages doesn't link to editors who didn't move yet - any fix?
I know this depends on MediaWiki software and not on Miraheze, but I wonder if there's a fix. Importing pages now requires to give an interlink prefix and you can specify whether to assign edits to existing contributors or not, while before it just linked to their pages, whether they existed or not. There's two issues with this new behavior: Did someone have to deal with this? Would Miraheze staff consider changing this behavior or downgrade to 1.30 in order to prevent headhaches from people who want to move here without losing everything?--Wedhro (talk) 15:09, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The user is now displayed as interwiki prefix>user, for example "it>Wedhro", instead of just "Wedhro", which is useless in a wiki which moved from a different website and doesn't differentiate users by their nationality, and doesn't look good on history pages;
 * The user page is linked only if the user already created an account, so moving a wiki, tweaking it and only then allowing users to join will zero their edits and make their username in histories not clickable, which is very, very annoying.
 * Changing this behavior is not really possible. We can, however, attach the edits to a user's account on request. -- Void  Whispers 20:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Are you allowed to evade blocks that are obviously made in bad-faith or are otherwise invalid?
This is something that came up in the #miraheze IRC channel this evening regarding several recent CVT actions. Apparently, several accounts were globally locked and several IP ranges globally blocked for “mass block evasion” on a particular wiki. However, nobody involved in performing these actions has been able to clearly state what the original offense was on the original account or IP. “Block evasion” in and of itself can never be the initial reason for one to be blocked. In order to be blocked for block evasion, one must have also been blocked for something else under a different account.

My question is, if that original something else (whatever it may be) was obviously invalid or made in bad-faith, are you, as a user blocked in bad-faith, allowed to evade that block, assuming that you don’t engage in any behavior that would warrant a valid block? To put that in perspective, consider the following hypothetical scenarios:


 * 12:00 6 August 2018 Admin (talk) blocked Example (talk) with an expiry time of indefinite (Vandalism-only account)


 * 12:00 6 August 2018 Admin (talk) blocked Example (talk) with an expiry time of indefinite (Because I feel like it)


 * 12:00 6 August 2018 Admin (talk) blocked Example (talk) with an expiry time of indefinite (no reason given)

Of the above 3 examples, only the first block is valid. It is perfectly acceptable to indefinitely block a vandalism-only account. However, the other two blocks are not valid. It is not acceptable to indefinitely block someone just “because you feel like it” or without a reason altogether. Therefore, if you are the owner of an account that has been blocked in bad-faith or for an invalid reason, like the second or third examples above, do you have the right to evade that block since the original block was invalid?

If the first user above (vandalism-only account) creates a sock that is also a vandalism-only account, that’s not acceptable. However, if the second or third users above create a second account and continue to contribute productively, without violating any policies, is that “valid blocke evasion”? Amanda Catherine (talk) 23:50, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It is blocked to evade period. It is disruptive. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 23:54, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * My point is, it’s not disruptive if you’re evading a bad-faith block. An admin who blocks in bad-faith should be desysopped. As long as you don’t engage in personal attacks or anything else blockable, you do not have the right to be invalidly blocked. Amanda Catherine (talk) 23:59, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Then it is a local community issue. Not a global one or otherwise. John (talk) 00:00, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * And if the issue fails to be resolved locally? At the end of the day, if I’ve been blocked by a rouge or bad-faith admin, I do not deserve to be essentially kicked off the project for no reason. Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:02, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Then contact stewards who will look and try and resolve it on your behalf. If the community can't resolve it, stewards can act as an intermediate source to try and resolve an issue otherwise there is not a lot. John (talk) 00:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Then be an adult and move on if your blocked for invalid reasons to begin with. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 00:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Why should any user allow themselves to be walked over by a bad-faith admin? Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:18, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Why should a community put up with a user who makes tens of accounts to intentionally evade a block placed on the user regardless of reason? Local communities decide their policies so why should one person of said community have the ability to say what is valid and what administrators can do? John (talk) 00:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Because a local community that says that it is acceptable for admins to block users for no reason, or “just because they feel like it” is acting in bad-faith. You need to have a valid reason for kicking someone out from a community. Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:24, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If a policy says "administrators can decide who is a member of this community" then blocking users "just because they feel like it" is valid and not bad faith. Is it a good policy to have? Of course not, but it is valid. The act of then evading that instead of trying to come to a peaceful resolution will severely lower the chances of that user ever becoming a successful contributor of that community. John (talk) 00:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * A policy that says “administrators can decide who is a member of this community” sounds like something that should belong on a private wiki, where admins can manually whitelist users access via the member group (unless changed). Having a public wiki and then blocking people for no reason isn’t good. Amanda Catherine (talk) 00:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It isn't but it doesn't make the community any less legitimate. Resolve disputes, don't cause them is the simple rule here. Causing disruption makes it less of a civil matter and more of a global issue and in that case, the user will lose as they are intentionally disrupting Miraheze. John (talk) 00:32, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

My user page is not display on global
Hello. Other user's user pages are display on global. But my user page is not display on global. Why my user page is not display on global?--プログラマリオ (Pen name:Mario Yonezawa) 13:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Did you enable the “use global user page” feature in either Special:GlobalPreferences or Special:Preferences? The global user page is something that is not enabled by default, but individual users can enable it for their own personal accounts.. Amanda Catherine (talk) 13:24, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, I did not know it. Thank you.--プログラマリオ (Pen name:Mario Yonezawa) 13:46, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * And please also note that local user pages will override your global user page (which is the user page on meta).-- 13:42, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Weather and Climate Box show/hide function not working?
I hope this is the appropriate place to ask this question. I have the templates for weather and climate graphs loaded up. Everything works but the hide/show function. They do not load into the header or footers as they should. The examples in the templates also do not load. I have the common.css and common.js squared away as far as I know. I suspect that I'm missing something in there as the show/hide function of the Table of Content box works correctly. Styling of the graphs is fine. The only part that doesn't work is the show/hide. Any thoughts? If this isn't the correct place for this question, I apologize and would appreciate being directed to the correct spot. Jar818 (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Try clearing your browser's cache. That usually does the trick. -- Void  Whispers 21:01, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank for the response. Just to be sure, I did again a few times and nothing. I then decided to start fresh with the template and .js and .css code. At that point it started working, so I probably had missed something. However I then tried use the |collapsed line as outlined in the documentation and that broke it. The show/hide feature stopped appearing. So I went in and removed the |collapsed line and upon refreshing the page, the show/hide came back, but to the left of the title, not aligned right. More tinkering I guess.Jar818 (talk) 01:10, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I redid the common files again and now things are constant but not how they should be. Now it correctly places the toggle, but rather than show/hide it says Collapse/Expand. The functions work, but I still have no ability to set it to collapsed when the page loads.Jar818 (talk) 01:57, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Infobox
Hello. I was trying to import infoboxes from wikipedia to my wiki. But it was not succesful, I dont even know if I did it right. Please can someone do the guide for me on a specific example? I was trying to import infoboxes from this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump and I wanted to have the same look just like in this page. I did all what was in this page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_Wikipedia_infoboxes_tutorial But please can somebody help me and write a guide to how to import these specific infoboxes (Donald Trump) to my wiki. Maybe I did something wrong and later I´ll can understand it. Mostly I dont understand where I can found modules which are required for a specific infobox (template?), just like in Donald Trump page. I dont know but I imported only these with /doc: Template:Infobox Template:Infobox officeholder Template:Infobox officeholder/office Template:Infobox president Thank you Dami (talk) 21:31, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. What exactly is not working? Can you link me to a page which is not working? Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 14:31, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello. Thank you for reply. Right now nothing. I deleted it all. I just need a guide to these specific infoboxes. Dami (talk) 21:31, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Have you read User:Void/Infoboxes? Also, please make sure to sign with ~ . Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 15:24, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I tried everything. But maybe if you write to me a guide to this specific example, I will be grateful. Dami (talk) 18:27, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I tried it again and now I am getting this error: Lua error: Internal error: The interpreter has terminated with signal "24". Dami (talk) 10:14, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I even canceled my wiki because I do not know how to continue. I believe someone will help me to create a new and functional wiki. I also looked at some advice on the Internet: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Extension_talk:Scribunto/Lua_error:_Internal_error:_The_interpreter_has_terminated_with_signal_"24". Dami (talk) 19:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

LocalSettings.php on http://sv.miraheze.org
Hi! I have question: where can the LocalSettings.php be found on http://sv.miraheze.org (I requested that wiki and is host there)? I would just add some extensions and change some user group rights, and some other things there, where can the LocalSettings.php be found there? Psl631 (Let's Chat!) 17:23, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please see ManageWiki. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 17:24, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * @User:MacFan4000 Where can my LocalSettings.php be found on http://sv.miraheze.org ? Is it on Phacibrator? I want to edit it, but i don't find it on managewiki, Psl631  (Let's Chat!) 17:54, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Please request the changes on Phabricator MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 19:42, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, you can view LC.php on https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config . For extensions you enable through Special:ManageWikiExtensions, some settings can be done through Special:ManageWiki and everything else through the repo i linked too. Paladox (talk) 19:48, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Can changes be made to the LocalSettings.php on GitHub or is it on Phacibrator? Psl631  (Let's Chat!) 03:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If you want to make a pull request to GitHub, you can do so. Please note that some settings are also on Special:ManageWiki. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 05:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Te setting I want is not on the managewiki, how can I change user rights for user groups? Psl631  (Let's Chat!) 16:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You either request it on Phabricator or you make a pull request on GitHub and edit it yourself. Whatever works for you. Reception123 (talk) ('C' ) 16:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I choosePhacibrator. If i need help or does not understand, please can you give instructions. :) Psl631  (Let's Chat!) 17:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)