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Mywikipedia
Need more contributors for mywikipedia.miraheze.org. Who's interested? --Iron Sword 22 (talk) 19:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , what is it about? Flarehot (talk) 08:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's like wikipedia. Iron Sword 22 (talk) 13:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

A question
How do I make certain logs appear in recent changes? (Like avatar upload, abuse filter, and page creation) InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:05, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Not sure if it's on ManageWiki. If it isn't, ask on Miraheze Phabricator. — Mario Mario  456  15:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * AbuseFilter or AbuseLog will not be visible for recent changes. Anton (talk) 15:52, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel Abuse filter changes and abuse logs will not appear in RC, as far as I'm aware. I personally wish they did, but this would need an upstream Wikimedia Phabricator feature request. Page creation logs can be enabled in Special:ManageWiki on your wiki. Not completely sure about the avatar upload log, but this should also be possible as well. If not, you'd probably need to file an upstream Wikimedia Phabricator feature request for the SocialProfile extension. Dmehus (talk) 15:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * As for the abuse logs and abuse filter changes, you can just check Special:AbuseLog and Special:Log/abusefilter on-wiki on regular basis. Perhaps add it to your calendar as a recurring event item? Dmehus (talk) 15:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

CSS
Can anyone tell me what elements the tabs (Page, Discussion, Read, Edit, etc.) use in CSS, and how to color them? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 16:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * So you want to change the background color of the page or just some tabs/sections? Or do you mean what you see at the top of each page before the content starts (Project Page, Talk, Edit, Edit source, Move)? Anton (talk) 16:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The tabs. The ones that says edit, history, etc. I don't want them white, I want them to be colored as #A0522D InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. Then copy this code:
 * Thanks. Anton (talk) 18:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Doesn't work for some reason. This is what my MW:Common.css page looks like:
 * Is there something wrong with it? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Also the colons were added as a result of this reply. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * NVM, it works, but how do I (sorry) change the color of the link in the tabs? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:13, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete colons. It not works. What link you mean? Anton (talk) 19:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * When you click "edit", it's a link. The colons were because of the reply link, not the original page. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 19:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed those colons for you. Turtle84375 (talk) 20:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed those colons for you. Turtle84375 (talk) 20:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry
I would like to apologize for getting carried away.--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 22:58, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Iron Sword 23 ✅! Yeah, it's probably best if you post one thread promoting your wiki on community noticeboard, add your wiki to Gazetteer of wikis, then join us on IRC, ideally in but also, and Discord to ask for specific help on your wiki. As a helpful tip, rather than proposing to create an English Wikipedia fork wiki, why not propose to create a wiki on a topic of particular interest to you, and, ideally, one of interest to others? Since there's, well, English Wikipedia, it's very difficult to attract interest from other editors to an English Wikipedia fork wiki. Dmehus (talk) 23:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Wiki
Does a comic book template wiki sound interesting --Iron Sword 23 (talk) 23:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Iron Sword 23 It does, but it needs more detail. Do you mean comic book wiki templates, in  namespace for writing wiki comics? If not, what do you mean? Can you describe this in approximately 2-3 sentences? Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 23:21, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I just hope I don't get carried away with talk pages this time around. --Iron Sword 23 (talk) 01:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Iron Sword 23 I mean, you could try telling yourself that you won't discuss your wiki on other users' user talk pages on Meta Wiki, unless they specifically ask you about your wiki, of course? Dmehus (talk) 02:02, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Gadgets not working
On naasgamelandwiki, HotCat and Edittools don't work. I've copied and pasted them from other wikis that HotCat and Edittools work there, but doesn't work for naasgamelandwiki. InspecterAbdel (talk) 14:45, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I also notice that there is no gadgets section (in preferences) in my wiki, even though my other wiki (First Class Restaurants and Foods Wiki) has the gadgets section working fine. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you have local bureaucrat, go to Special:ManageWiki/extensions, install Gadgets, and go to MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition to add your gadget. — Mario Mario  456  16:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, and parser function tag. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Now it seems like it works, yet nothing happens when i click one of the buttons. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hola, InspecterAbdel.  funciona bien. Por lo menos aquí funciona correctamente: . Saludos cordiales. Hugo Ar (talk) 21:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Translated by Google Translator
 * Hello. InspecterAbdel,  works fine. At least here it works correctly: . Best regards. Hugo Ar (talk) 21:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work in my wiki. Just the buttons look like it works. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 16:23, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you have a CharInsert extension? Anton (talk) 16:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Anton They said they do above, but I haven't checked it to be sure. Dmehus (talk) 17:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. I can't check it because access to the wiki is restricted. Anton (talk) 17:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel. Activate the charinsert extension. In your wiki you should go to  →   →   Hugo Ar (talk) 17:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I already did that. But Charinsert only makes buttons that don't do anything. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * InspecterAbdel. On the page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CharInsert it says:
 * These links are usually used in MediaWiki:Edittools (example on this wiki) system message.
 * Use group, even setting an expiry date if you wish, without needing to change your wiki from a private wiki to a public wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 13:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Done, Again, sorry for the delay. IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 18:17, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * A template "Template:Infobox monarchy" does not exist in your wiki --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 22:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It was deleted. IvanCastroTheFool (talk) 12:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Is the problem still present? How could anyone analyze the problem when the template has been deleted? Pls open a new thread with an exact description of the problem thank you --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki

Wiki Ideas?
Hey all, I'd like to start a public wiki, as a balance-out to my current private wiki (it doesn't have to have anything to do with TurtleWiki though), but I thought I'd get your guys' ideas for what would be a common interest that people would actually enjoy editing on. I tried with a previous public wiki, but it didn't really hit off, so I've closed it and will likely let it go dormant, but I still want to experience both ends in terms of running a wiki. So, any topic/scope ideas? Thanks, much appreciated! Turtle84375 (talk) 04:20, 7 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Do you use scratch? Maybe Scratchwiki is a good idea (scratch.miraheze.org) InspecterAbdel (NLW) 14:13, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the only problem with that is that Scratch already has its own wiki lol, but I do have an account. Turtle84375 (talk) 17:36, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That wiki is bad. We can make a better one here on Miraheze. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 17:43, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I just don't want it to seem like it's a content fork. Turtle84375 (talk) 17:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm curious, how is it bad? Turtle84375 (talk) 17:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The pages seem to praise the scratch team, and the pages about the moderation seem to defend themselves, making an account there is very hard (I tried before), It has a bad layout, and the april fools pages are not funny. (I haven't been there in a while, since June 2020, but I didn't like the wiki) InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:09, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well... yeah, they're trying to keep their spotless reputation intact, not an easy thing to do in the digital world for as long as they have, so they (unfortunatly) have to control, control, control. I'm just concerned that making a new Scratch Wiki could potentially cause some conflict/would be essentially a fork. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe a source wiki, like GitHub? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:27, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That might be interesting. Turtle84375 (talk) 18:46, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Wiki
What wiki ideas should I come up with in the future?--Iron Sword 23 (talk) 15:18, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Copyright Trolls on All The Tropes
This is a general heads-up to the Miraheze Community. According to Matomo Analytics, All The Tropes has been visited multiple times in the last week-plus by Higbee & Associates, a noted "copyright troll". Although we're certainly the largest target, there's no reason to assume we are the only wiki at Miraheze they have visited or plan to visit. You may want to ensure that your content is not likely to net you a "pay up or else" letter from them. Looney Toons (talk) 18:12, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Why am I not the bureaucrat and admin of my own wiki?
Hi, I made a wiki called New Super Mario Bros. 2 and it says I'm not a bureaucrat or admin. How come? -Zai- (talk) 18:16, 7 May 2021 (UTC)


 * -Zai- This is likely due to a persistent bug when usernames begin with a hyphen, the CreateWiki extension is not able to grant  and   permissions, as it's happened on more than one occasion prior to this with the exact same circumstances. Anyway, this is now ✅. Universal Omega, please make sure you are checking the requesting user's CentralAuth after wikis are created, so we can catch instances like this and make the appropriate request to Stewards to manually grant the user rights. I do try and patrol the farmer log, but hadn't yet reviewed the last several wiki creations. Dmehus (talk) 18:25, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * -Zai- To add to what I said above, I would personally strongly recommend you request a global rename, to remove the problematic initial hyphen character from your username, otherwise you will continue to experience technical issues with the MediaWiki software on Miraheze. Dmehus (talk) 18:26, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

The Monaco Skin
Why doesn't Miraheze have the Monaco skin. It is a skin that was used by Wikia for a short period of time and is now used by ShoutWiki. If you were on FANDOM in 2010 you might remember the whole “Monaco vs Oasis” debacle. Since Miraheze made a custom version of Oasis (Cosmos), I think that they should use Monaco or make a custom version, as it is a very popular skin. Here is an example of what it looks like on a wiki that uses it: http://awa.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Anti-Wikia_Alliance&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:16, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi. Miraheze did actually have Monaco for a short period of time but it was removed as it is not compatible with the newest versions of MediaWiki and also unmaintained. The skin similar to Oasis called Cosmos was not technically made by Miraheze, but by a volunteer and former sysadmin, Universal Omega. Perhaps he might be interested in doing something similar for Monaco, but that's for him to say. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 16:26, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. I would like to see a custom version of that skin for Miraheze, since it is a good skin and is used by ShoutWiki, who uses MediaWiki 1.34, which is just two steps behind (ShoutWiki has not been in active development for a while and seemed to be partially abandoned by staff, though staff has come back. ShoutWiki also has less SEO than Miraheze, and Miraheze seems to be more popular nowadays. Since ShoutWiki seems to be in a bit of a pickle now with their Wiki Creation broken and partial dormancy, it would be nice for Miraheze to adopt Monaco, since if ShoutWiki closes the Anti-Wikia Alliance would have to move here, and they would want to have the Monaco skin as it was the whole Monaco vs Oasis thing that started the Anti-Wikia Alliance. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to note now that you brought this up, I do plan to fork the Monaco skin and get it working and hopefully deployed on Miraheze soon. Thanks for bringing this up! 16:48, 8 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * Blubabluba9990 thank you for raising this. Universal Omega, thank you for looking into forking this. Separately, would you mind fixing your signature, as it's incompatible with DiscussionTools? I believe the issue is your  tags need to be inside the wikilinks, not outside. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 16:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:53, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * hello, though I'd give you an update on this, I have successfully done some major cleanup to Monaco on my own fork of it, and successfully got it to work on MediaWiki 1.35 and MediaWiki 1.36. Once I finish a few additional testing I will open a task on Phabricator for deployment of the skin on Miraheze. Thanks again for bringing this up, as I also like the Monaco skin and it will be great to have deployed on Miraheze. 16:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * I have now deployed Monaco on Miraheze. It can be enabled from the "Skins" tab of Special:ManageWiki/extensions now. 03:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC) ］ |

Hello
Just created a list of Avengers enemies on dcmarvelcomics.miraheze.org. --Iron Sword 23 (talk) 18:31, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Login error
Hi, I'm LucianoTheWindowsFan. I tried editing on the Crappy Games Wiki, but when I submitted it, it says that it cannot be done due to a session loss. I tried logging out of this wiki but it says invalid CSRF token. I tried logging out of the Dr. Mario World wiki and it worked, but when I logged back into not only the previous wiki but also the Miraheze meta itself, I get a "cancelled to prevent session hijacking" error. How can I fix this problem? LucianoTheWindowsFan 23:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * LucianoTheWindowsFan, can you please go to Special:UserLogin on Loginwiki in incognito mode, then go to Special:UserLogout on the same wiki and also in incognito mode. Once that's done, delete all your cookies for  and any custom domain wikis and return to regular web browser mode, going to Special:UserLogin again. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 23:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I removed all the cookies in normal mode and Voilà! Now it works fine! LucianoTheWindowsFan (talk) 23:18, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * LucianoTheWindowsFan ✅. I've redacted your IP address. If you edited on any other wikis logged out and would like those redacted, too, please e-mail . Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 23:20, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki interface question
How do you change the text when you use "More" I found MediaWiki:Delete, MediaWiki:Protect, MediaWiki:Move, but they don't do anything. I even tried to test it using my now-locked AppleCrunchy sock back in September 2020, and it still didn't work. InspecterAbdel (NLW) 15:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Add &uselang=qqx to the url of the page and you will see the names of the system messages. You can edit them when you have admin rights, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 22:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * What do you mean exactly? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 18:05, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you follow the link and read the online documentation of system messages? --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The name of the messages is vector-action-move etc. depending on your skin, so MediaWiki:Move has no effect on the text of the dropdown-menu "More" --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 08:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, but what does MW:Move even do? InspecterAbdel (NLW) 22:40, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no clue where this system message is used in the Mediawiki software, I am still looking in the documentation but I could not find a list which system message is used where, maybe you are lucky, --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 05:23, 10 May 2021 (UTC)