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Lack of general disclaimer
I noticed that the Meta wiki has a lack of a general disclaimer, I apologise if this is the wrong place for this but I imagine that the creation of such policy would be in the hand of administrators only. My wiki is lacking a general disclaimer and I was going to use what I thought Miraheze would have however it does not have one, it might be useful for a lot more wiki owners if such a one was created. Apologies for any inconvenience. LulzKiller (talk) 15:48, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Is this a valid edit?
Is this a valid edit to somebody's User page other than one's own?

https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:RedditNavy&curid=5370&diff=20815&oldid=20636

--Robkelk (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No, it is not a valid edit. I have told Amanda on IRC that doing that is unacceptable and it should not repeated. 14:11, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Should the page have been deleted, then? --Robkelk (talk) 15:20, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The page was not deleted because of Amanda's request, it was deleted because 1) the user blanked the page which indicates that they want deletion 2) the content before wasn't really userpage content and it should be wiki content. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 15:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * So then it was a valid action and request then? Nothing stipulates certain people have to request deletion neither only certain accounts can edit user pages. Validity is in the action not the person to me. John (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Was it the user who blanked the page? Since the page has been deleted, I cannot double-check, but I thought that the Recent Changes list indicated that it was Amanda who blanked the change. Could an admin verify this, please? --Robkelk (talk) 16:49, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The page was blanked by the user. -- Void  Whispers 17:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Meta policy
As there are a lot of issues with recent actions on Meta made either by Stewards, by non-stewards or by Meta administrators I think that a policy is required to ensure that the rules on Meta are clear. I have created User:Reception123/Meta policy (draft) and anyone is invited to edit it and/or comment on it. After the version is seen by users a vote would be required to decide if this should be the Meta policy, but for now I think we should just leave it to comments.

Comments
There's some sloppy wording in there that will be likely twisted to malefactors' benefit if it's left as-is. I've left specific comments in the document. --Robkelk (talk) 16:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The sentence regarding removing comments at RFC should be removed from the draft, or excluded in a final policy. This contradicts the previous sentence about disallowing incivility and insults. Users should have the right to remove derogatory comments from RFC or other discussions. Amanda (talk) 17:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That was added back as it was removed without the consent of the person that wrote it, removal can be discussed here or on the specific talkpage. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 17:59, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * As I already said on the talkpage, removing someone else's comments from an RfC is the ultimate incivility. I'm repeating this here for emphasis. --Robkelk (talk) 01:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Bumping this as there is no recent activity. Please feel free to contribute to the policy! Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 13:53, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

No personal attacks
Please share your thoughts on my draft NPA policy for Miraheze. Amanda (talk) 20:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Far too over-reaching - applying that to "all Miraheze" would mean that some stranger could remove text from a wiki other than Meta if that stranger found the text offensive, or if it was determined that the earlier wiki editor referred to himself with the wrong pronoun, no matter what that wiki's individual Terms of Use and that wiki's Content Policy might be. Also, it doesn't guarantee that disagreements of opinion will not qualify as personal attacks simply because they are disagreements of opinion. --Robkelk (talk) 01:09, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Can't login
Just bringing to your attention not being able to login on Meta (and, therefore, no logged in access to own website). Probably just a temporary and/or minor issue but this is the message I get after I have entered my login credentials:
 * (Cannot access the database: Cannot access the database: Unknown database 'zgradetenniswiki' (81.4.127.157)) – 86.160.46.10 22:46, 19 April 2017 (UTC) (Borderman)
 * ✅ this was caused by miscommunication in that I was told the database was okay to drop so I presumed it had been deleted correctly several months ago. John (talk) 22:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Working again.  Borderman   talk 23:15, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Merge Histories of Images
Hi, I wanted to upload an improved version of File:Miraheze admin.png, however for a strange reason I did not want to save the file and I had to upload a new one. I request that the histories of the 2 files be merged to preserve the authorship of the same ones. Thanks. —Alvaro Molina (✉  - ✔ ) 07:50, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The original file has been updated, I think you just had to wait. I deleted the newer one as it was identical. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 07:58, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

CheckUser group
Would it be possible to chang the  group display name to read  ? This is the form that is used on Wikimedia globally and it looks better IMHO to not have the space. This would require:


 * Changing MediaWiki:group-checkuser to "CheckUsers" or "Checkusers"
 * Changing MediaWiki:group-checkuser-member to "checkuser"
 * Changing MediaWiki:grouppage-checkuser to "CheckUser" or "Checkuser"

-- Amanda   (talk)  22:13, 17 May 2017 (UTC)