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Cannot create new page from search
Normally to create a MediaWiki page, you can simply search for the article in your search box. If the page is not found, MediaWiki will prompt you to create the page. However, on my wiki, I am not prompted to create a new page. I can create a new page if I create a link of a word that does not have a page, but I don't get the link to create a new page from searching a page that does not exist. Is there any feature that must be enabled?

"Exception" error
Hello, and thank you again for your beautiful work!

My wiki is working well, but I have a problem when a new user has to set a new password at first access. The password input works, but after that I see a page which says (italian version):

Errore interno [6ed00020e037182f9468e092] 2020-01-16 10:55:53: Errore irreversibile di tipo "Exception"

Is it possible to fix it? (the best thing should be redirecting the user to a news page, like "Your account is ready, welcome and begin navigatioN"...

Why is new group in "Groups you cannot change" list?
I just created a new group (Editors2) to test. My current editors group members lost their ability to edit. I created a task on Maniphest (T5197). Meanwhile, I'm trying to set up a new group to see if it works better. But the group ended up in the column Groups you cannot change.

Database error Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"
Hello,

I get the below Error when I try to confirm a new user

Unable to create account requests after review using "Extension:ConfirmAccount"

A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.

[XlqhX1j8TVgeQ-VWcDebrQAAAI8] 2020-02-29 17:37:35: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"

What do we do? -MeMeGuY

Can someone please give me a very basic and easy to follow guide to creating infoboxes and infobox templates to use on my wiki? Thank you
I mean the subject says it all- I've been trying for hours to figure out how to get an infobox to appear. I would like to create a template for an infobox for cities- so that when I use it for multiple pages, each one about a city, there will be an infobox with facts such as when it was founded, where it is located, who rules it, etc. Everything I have found is written by experts for other advanced users, and extreme absolute beginners like me can't understand a single word. Would somebody know what to do- how to get this result?

From what I've tried, I've received a template loop error, and now all it comes up with is "Template:Infobox" in red, not even "Template:Infobox city" like what I had written. I have a page called Templaet:Infobox city which has some code that looks (for example) like:

and on the page where I want the infobox to appear, I have something (once again, just an example) like:

The examples are just super basic and not actually what I use, but they're to the extent. If someone could please help me understand why the infobox is not appearing, instead saying there's a loop or plain red text, that would be much appreciated.

Side note, if I manage to understand how to get this up and running, having an image in the infobox would be much appreciated. I'm not sure if I'll be able to figure it out on my own, so if you want to explain how that works as well I won't be complaining :)

Thank you very much


 * Welcome to Miraheze! Basically, typing   into a page simply copies ("transcludes") the text of the specified template and inserts it at that point.  You've figured out how to pass parameters.  There is no secret to getting images to appear; the code of the template, after being transcluded with the parameters substituted, simply has to make sense at its new home.  If you are seeing "Template:Infobox" in red, it means that Template:Infobox doesn't exist on your wiki.  Naturally, as your examples suggest that you named it "Infobox city".  This part of the problem I suspect is the result of a simple typo.


 * MediaWiki's help page is here. Wikipedia and other wikis already have "Infobox city", as well as a generic template to build infoboxes for specific uses such as cities.  Our FAQ may help you import their templates.


 * Two general tips: Find a wiki that's already doing what you want to do, and steal the code.  Also, type what you want into the page without using a template, then transfer more and more of it into the template.  But first, solve the naming problem!   11:21 26-Mar-2020

I'm unfortunately back again with more infobox problems :/
Thank you for your message before, but I unfortunately couldn't figure out the problem. I read the wiki, FAQ and revised my Template pages, to no avail.

Firstly, I checked the page I want to infobox to appear on and it said that it was getting templates from both Template:Infobox and Template:Infobox city, even though I only had written in. The Template:Infobox page wasn't needed (or at least I hope not) so whatever I had been messing about in there, I deleted the page, clearing it. I left just Template:Infobox city, but the page where I wanted my infobox continued to say it was pulling templates from the two pages.

It seems like there are two types of templates- the template you have on the "Template:Infobox whatever" page that tells the wiki what parameter goes where, and how to build the infobox, and the template you put on the page where you want the infobox to go. I believe that my problems are with the first kind of template. SO I went to the FAQ to see if there was something about how to use these first kind of infoboxes.

Reading the FAQ I saw you had to import and export templates to get infoboxes to work. In that case, since I don't want a premade infobox template but a custom template to create a custom infobox, I went to Wikipedia and found Template:Infobox, the page I believed had the template to create templates- in specific, the first kind of templates I was talking about, the ones that go on the "Template:Infobox whatever" page. And now I found myself with even MORE problems as I couldn't get the Special:Import page to work.

I had copied the link of the Template:Infobox page from Wikipedia, and using Wikipedia's Special:Export page, I exported it as a XML file. From here, I went to my own wiki's Special:Import page, and placed the file in. Once I got it to work by some miracle, and it said it had imported some pages such as modules and stuff, things I didn't really want. But there it was- the Template page. I went there and... nothing at all. It was blank- even in the script editor. I had gone back to the page where the infobox should be to find nothing at all.

I went back to Wikipedia's Template:Infobox page to try and copy some of the syntax (I think that's what it's called?) of what looked like the template into my own Template:Infobox page. And yet, it read it as the second kind of template I was talking about, the template that draws upon the first. It called upon itself and created a template loop.

I'm going to read about Import and Export, and I would like to read about the first kind of template, but I haven't found any information that I can understand yet. It's like reading a dictionary, but all the definitions are made up of words you don't know the definitions of.

I'm also going to search other people's wiki's on Miraheze to try and find instances of infoboxes and see if I can figure out what they've done.

If you see anything I'm doing wrong, or anything I should be doing, please tell me- it'll be extremely appreciated. Thank you!


 * First of all, rules:
 * Post to talk pages by appending to the relevant section, or creating a new section.
 * Do not erase your previous posts to a talk page.
 * Especially do not erase my response. When you call up an edit box and type in new comments, that's what you're doing.
 * Sign and timestamp your post by typing  at the end of your final line.


 * I think the reason it tells you you are calling both Infobox city and Infobox is that the former calls the latter, because the former is built in terms of the latter. Most Infoboxes, if you try to view them as a page rather than transclude them, will show you instructions on their proper usage.  Typically this includes how to code images:  It may be that you have to type the complete   or even   syntax, or it may be that you just type the name of the image file.  This depends on how much of your parameter the template transcludes and how much the template adds on its own.


 * FAQ won't give you information anywhere this detailed on a specific template. Moreover, what we wrote at FAQ only described the case where you want to import complete templates from a wiki such as Wikipedia.  I use templates and would not want to deal with these complications.  Again I suggest that you get a page to appear the way you want it to, and only then think about using templates to automate the process to simplify creation of additional articles.   00:33 28-Mar-2020

Using chosen value from a field as a category for second field
Hey all, been running myself in circles trying to sort this one out, so hopefully someone has an idea or two I haven't thought of. I'm primarily using PageForms and trying to make a second field use the value of the first field as it's category, which I think needs to just be carried over as a string, though my knowledge sort of fizzles out beyond whats readily found on the internet and I might just be speaking gibberish. Anyway, this is a nonfunctional quasi-code snippet that I think represents what I'd -like- to do, but it seems not nearly as simple:

'System' field|System|mandatory|values from category=Systems|existing values only

'Planet' field|Planet|mandatory|values from category=value_chosen_in_System_field|existing values only

I can reference these fields on the following page of course, but not right on the form page itself. And I know the show on select option exists, but that requires adding all trees into the form manually, whereas I'd prefer it be dynamic as new data will be regularly added to all of the categories. I feel like I am overlooking something obvious, as I certainly can't be the first person to want to do this, and I appreciate any guidance!

Where add template?
I feel so clueless.

I just want to compile research, articles & photos to provide for leaders & others to reference as they're figuring out methods to deal with Coronavirus. Was hoping to do in basic format like this:

Main Title

Section Title Citation Summary of research  (& maybe photo in there somewhere)  ~Just text. No additional title needed Explanation of significance -Some little way to signify transition to new topic, by indent, italic or ??

with ability to add more sections.

Where do I make a template like this & will it automatically be inserted whenever I make a new page? I'm sorry to ask so many questions--I'm trying to learn but also get doing research faster. If you can help me figure out, thanks a TRILLION!!


 * I'm catching on some about formatting, but don't know where to make a template file that will appear on all pages.
 * I saw a reference to "local settings" (I think for css) but I am not able to find. Please help?

Update: I better not keep try to use another format to try to keep records in right now. This has turned out to be too high of a learning curve for me, lol!


 * You might look at my recommendations to someone else in Sec. 5 above.


 * The coding that might help you is a Wikitable:


 * Get the code to work first. Then transfer it to a template to mass-produce it!   22:34 11-Apr-2020

Lost ability to post comments and create pages on Terrible TV Shows Wiki
I was a autoconfirmed user on the wiki but for some reason, I lost the rights. I talked to an admin and he made me as a confirmed user but the problem still hasn't been resolved. How can I become a autoconfirmed user again? I have no issues on Crappy Games Wiki or Awful Movies Wiki where I am a autoconfirmed user. On Rotten Websites Wiki, I'm not an autoconfirmed user but I can still make edits and post comments.

'''Can someone solve my problem? Why are you answering the questions posted after me without answering mine?'''

I can't log in
User:OishiLover75: I'm having trouble logging in. Technical problems are not restored. What should I do? Why don't the instructions above work for me.

Only the Edit Source option is available when trying to update my sandbox plus previous issue still not solved.
I want to update my sandbox on Awful Movies Wiki but it's only letting me edit the source only and not edit the page itself. That's very inconvenient for me because it's much faster to edit as the page should be displayed unless I'm uploading videos.

And I still haven't gotten a reply with the previous issue that I posted last week that I'm having on Terrible TV Shows Wiki. Can someone please let me know what's going on and why Miraheze is becoming worse to use with each passing day?

This is getting ridiculous. Once again, the users who posted after me are getting help from the staff but I get ignored. Can you at least post something so I know what the reason is?

Formatting help
Hello, I am an admin on the [https://reds.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Reds! Wiki] and in the past I have attempted to redesign the main page so there are two separate parallel collumns with links to relevant content by copying formatting from other places/wiki with a similar design elsewhere see my sandbox and I would like to know how the page can be divided/displayed in such a way where one section isn't "below" the other in the same way the current sandbox version is. SpookyBoy (talk) 21:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have a two-column format using a Wikitable here.  19:01 30-May-2020

Thank you Miraheze team!
I want to thank the Miraheze team, and specifically Southparkfan, for all their hard work today during the outage to get us up back up and running. The dedication of our volunteers is truly amazing, and I wanted to take a moment to express my appreciation. Thank you, Sario528 (talk) 14:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you Sario258. I am grateful to see those lovely words. We're in the process of working on an incident report to see where we can improve, because this downtime was a long one. Southparkfan (talk) 18:46, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Anonymous user rights
How can I restrict page creation for anonymous users on my wiki? They don't seem to be listed as a group on Special:ManageWiki/permissions. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 20:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * They're Special:ManageWiki/permissions/* Pppery (talk) 22:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Templates all break
✅ I come from a background of Wikipedia, so I know a lot about templates. When trying to export and import the documentation template of the template wiki, everything in it broke. Despite the fact it imported all the subtemplates it relied on, it still broke. Does anyone know what I can do? — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 11:18, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you specify which wiki and which template you are talking about? Pppery (talk) 18:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * [sja.mirahexe.org This wiki], and navbox — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 07:35, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Try importing MediaWiki:Common.css.--松 (talk) 12:35, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 13:26, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Not at all.--松 (talk) 13:43, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Interwiki Links
I recently imported two wikis (both related to the Homestar Runner cartoon series) from Referata to Miraheze, and I'd like to restore some of the interwiki links from the original sites.

Add to The Broternal Wiki and Homestar Runner Fanon: Add to The Broternal Wiki only: In addition, I'd like the Homestar Runner Fanstuff Wiki 2 Interwiki link "hrfanon" to be changed to the new site:
 * hrfwiki2: https://hrfwiki2.miraheze.org/wiki/$1
 * forum: http://broternal.freeforums.net/$1
 * hrfanon: https://hrfanon.miraheze.org/wiki/$1

Thanks! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 22:56, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Special:Badtitle
On the Homestar Runner Fanstuff Wiki 2, the project namespace is "HRFWiki2". If you enter a project talk page (such as HRFWiki2 talk:Wiki Stuff, which doesn't exist), the "Page" tab at the top appears red, and when clicked, goes to Special:Badtitle/NS3000:Wiki Stuff instead of HRFWiki2:Wiki Stuff. This is the case with all HRFWiki2 namespace pages. Additionally, "HRFWiki2 talk" shows up twice on Special:Search, under "Advanced", which I suspect is related to the problem. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 23:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Another thing worth noting: on many HRFWiki2 namespace pages, the "Discussion" tab is blue, despite the talk page appearing to be nonexistent. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc (talk) 20:41, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

How to change copyright notice at bottom of page
Hi, does anyone know how I can change the copyright notice at the bottom of the page and how I can make a proper upload wizard like the one at commons? — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 07:25, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can change the license of your wiki in Special:ManageWiki, which will then change the copyright notice. Amanda Catherine (talk) 13:51, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Help with the source editor
When i try to enable VisualEditor, only "Edit source" appears. Is there a way to fix this?


 * Have you waited 10 minutes after enabling? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 14:52, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No... i didn't even put a timer.. -AwesomePie16

About audio
I can't understand English very well, so if the statement is wrong, please overlook me. I'm runnning Worldtrainwiki on the miraheze's server. I uploaded a file of music. And, set up a link to the music file. However, a play button didn't appear in the page like Wikipedia. What should I do?--令和少年 (talk) 01:41, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Miraheze! Unfortunately, I can't read the home page at worldtrainwiki nor locate the file link.  Perhaps you can read my wiki; it has an example here.  When I create a link to , the reader can click on that link and hear the narration.  When I create a picture whose   was   clicking on it instead gets the File page describing the narration.  This code is in .  I hope this helps!   21:08 5-Jun-2020
 * Oh, thanks a lot! immediately, I imported your template. Of course, I Complyed with license.--令和少年 (talk) 08:23, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

I’m doing something!
I’m moving the CLG dream logos thing from Wikifoundry to Miraheze!

I can't create accounts
I have a problem i try to create an account and it says that there's a problem in a session log due to the hijack editing.  03:26, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I can't log in
When I log in, it just shows something about that action getting cancelled because of session hijacking. User:Lamborghini446
 * I have the same problem. --113.240.214.230 22:49, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Same problem for me. --79.18.185.119 15:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I still can't log on to my account.
Every time I log in, it always show the session hijacking. I'm feeling uncomfortable from this and to be honest, I've tried everything I could do in order to succesfully log in. I got rid of cookies and it still won't let me log on. - Tarbiz
 * When trying once, if you see session hijacking notice, retry. If it doesn't work, contact sysops at staff[at]miraheze[dot]org.- Bitwise (talk) 12:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * When this happens to me, it usually means my PC is in a state where Miraheze can't create a cookie or run a Javascript. Enable these features on your end and start the log-in process from the beginning.  (Don't just refresh the page with the "hijacked" notice, or you may simply get it again.)   20:56 5-Jun-2020

Delete archives of crummyscratchers, crappyscratchprojects, and reversecrummyscratchers
Hi. I'm CircleyDoesExtracter. I am telling archive.org to delete the archives of subdomains crummyscratchers.miraheze.org, reversecrummyscratchers.miraheze.org, and crappyscratchprojects.miraheze.org. They emailed me, and I am not the owner of 2 wikis, but I am the owner of reverse crummy scratchers wiki. Pacsonic9000 owns CSW and CPSW, and he requested me to delete these archives. CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 22:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is censorship. Are you even allowed to do this on behalf of Miraheze Staff? It's their say on whether or not a wiki gets archived by Wayback, not yours. KamafaDelgato021469 (talk) 23:59, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The scratch team wants to take down the archives, but I do not own these wikis, so Pacsonic will do the work. CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 01:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please don't bandy about big words like "censorship." No government is involved.  I believe Wayback is a totally separate organization that makes copies of information it finds (freely) on the web.   01:39 6-Jun-2020
 * I tell Wayback Machine to delete the archives of subdomains crummyscratchers, crappyscratchprojects, and reversecrummyscratchers! Can I need the stewards to request deletion of archives? CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 20:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Wiki Collaboration
Is it possible to link a wiki and a wiki like Wikipedia and Wikibooks?--令和少年 (talk) 10:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is possible by using InterWiki. Additions are done by interwiki admins (and stewards). Is it okay to add as follows? --そらたこ (talk) 12:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * いつもお世話になっております. 日本語で話していただいて大丈夫です. --令和少年 (talk) 12:26, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * これはインターウィキを使うことで可能です. インターウィキへの追加はスチュワードやインターウィキ管理者などが行います. 上の表のように追加すれば大丈夫ですか？--そらたこ (talk) 12:35, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * WikidemocracyとExlinkwikiとWorldtrainwikiとWikilexiconを連携させる案がちょっと出てまして（といってもDiscordの中ですからまだ表面上にはなっていませんが）、、. 転送とかトランスクルージョンとかはよくわかりません. すみません. --令和少年 (talk) 12:39, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 転送と読み込みは基本的にはこうなると思います. 簡単に言うと、転送するときに確認画面を出すかどうかと他のウィキからコンテンツを読み込めるようにするかです. とりあえずローカルで決めましょう. --そらたこ (talk) 12:45, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 了解です. --令和少年 (talk) 12:51, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

? On Awesome/Loathsome Character Wikis

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

The result was: moot/out of scope Dmehus (talk) 15:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Should this Canadian animated character belong on the Awesome Characters Wiki or its sister wiki Loathsome? Contrary to what Snesboy12 mentioned on his character design on the series article on Terrible TV Shows he resembles more like Monsieur Neutron than Timmy Turner because he doesn’t wear pink.

Likewise for his love interest she definitely belongs in the former because her and Dennis are like-able characters in the Redeeming Qualities of said show. Her being modeled after Cindy Vortex would be the only horrible quality on there.

Also to sum it up considering its premise he is the Dib Membrane to Kat’s Zim Millie’s Gaz and Burt’s Professor.

The end,

67.81.163.178 21:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi IP editor...I have no knowledge of that television series, so can't comment. The Community Noticeboard on Miraheze is really for the Miraheze global community to discuss proposed policies, guidelines, ideas, new features, and such that have global impacts on Miraheze. You really would be best to discuss those ideas at the appropriate the applicable talk page, like this for the Coop Burtonburger page. On Fandom, click "discuss" to discuss proposed edits. Dmehus (talk) 15:08, 8 June 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

Template:Location map~ doesn't work on my wiki
Hello everyone. On my wiki, https://mypersonal.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page, the template "Location map~" doesn't seem to work. I copied it from a fandom wiki and there it works perfectly, but on my wiki, it displays "<.div style="position: absolute; z-index: 2; top: Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".%; left: Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "[".%; height: 0; width: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;">" and shows the red dot with the city name next to it. I tried to look for those brackets that it doesn't recognize but found nothing. Thank you in advance, hope you can help me! <3 Btw sorry yesterday I mistakenly wrote this on the archive. :P
 * I'm not familiar with Fandom/Wikia (I preferred the Wikia name, personally), but it's quite likely they use a modified markup to render their pages. Have you tried removing the preceding period for the "div" tag that precedes the "style" attribute? That's the only think stands out to me from your quoted text. I haven't yet looked at your wiki, though. As for accidentally posted to the archive, thanks for letting us know. has already removed it. In future if you make an error like that, you can go back as soon as realize and hit "undo" on your edit(s). If you're the most recent editor, you can still undo both edits without rollback rights. Dmehus (talk) 14:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, please remember to sign your posts with ~ as a bot automatically archives threads according to the date of last activity. Without a timestamp, it's not necessarily able to do its job (although in this case, it would've, since I replied). Still, signing identifies who is posting. I've added your signature for you with unsigned. Dmehus (talk) 15:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

No longer able to add people to groups
Hi! I'm an admin at companybumpers.miraheze.org and after my last visit to the permissions settings, I don't know how, but the admin and bureaucrat groups are no longer able to add people to any other groups. The Group Assignments tab seemed like the logical place to fix this, but nothing worked. Would you have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Hb1290 (talk) 10:07, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I guess it's because of a server-side issue. Try deleting your cookies on all miraheze domains. --Jack980517 (talk) 20:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed! IDK why, but when I tried fixing it the first time, the Group Assignments table had totally different groups in it for some reason. When I went back in today, the normal groups were showing. That outage the other day was just after the problem happened, so maybe that had something to do with it. Hb1290 (talk) 02:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

internal error
An internal error has occurred. Can it be repaired?--雪津風明石 (talk) 04:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * In Warships Wiki.--雪津風明石 (talk) 04:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * (Add)If it cannot be repaired, is it possible to delete it and have it recreated?--雪津風明石 (talk) 05:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Need help on category suppression
w:Wikipedia:Category Suppression says: "you need to surround the categorization code with, otherwise your template itself will be categorized."

However, I tried this on mh:silentblue:Template:maimai Difficulty, and the template itself is still added into the categories, and I don't want that. The categories are only meant to have the pages that the templates are transcluded on.

How can I achieve what I want? Thanks.

Jack980517 (talk) 18:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see it. My initial guess is that something in this rat's nest is mismatched (curly braces or tags).  If the   is not in order when encountered, then the   would be ignored as well.   03:26 11-Jun-2020


 * Oh, for Pete's sake! Your Usage (with  ) contains a use of itself as an example!  So the template is one of "the pages that the templates are transcluded on"!  Mystery solved   03:31 11-Jun-2020  I recommend that you write code that inhibits output of the categories if the target is in the Template: namespace.   03:34 11-Jun-2020


 * Thank you very much. I somehow overlooked that the noinclude portion contains a transclusion lol... --Jack980517 (talk) 06:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Code of Conduct Commission reform RfC
As was the case with the CVT reform earlier, it is time to reform the CoCC which in its current form presents many flaws and challenges. Here is my current draft, feel free to make suggestions and edits before it's published as an RfC! Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)