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A user that may have been unrightfully locked
There is a now-locked user known as I have no idea, who is marked as a sockpuppet of I have no idea 2.0. However, there are many flaws with this lock: If there is something I'm missing then please tell me, but otherwise, I would disagree that these actions are worthy of a global lock. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 08:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) For one thing, I have no idea is the master account, not I have no idea 2.0, as I have no idea was created first.
 * 2) After looking at their contributions page on all wikis to which they have been shown to contribute on their CentralAuth (not checking the others where they may have commented or done something else that only appears in logs because there's a lot and it isn't worth my time, also I haven't checked GMW because I currently can't access it), they have not edited on a single wiki with I have no idea since they created I have no idea 2.0, with the exception of Miraheze Meta (where they commented for verification). Therefore, this is not really disruptive sockpuppetry.
 * 3) Despite all of this, it is stated that the use of the two accounts has somehow violated sockpuppetry rules. There is no clear proof of other abuse, other than their CentralAuth showing that they were blocked by from the game reception wikis for allegedly using an unnamed "fake Santa Claus account" and other unnamed accounts, however there is no clear proof of this, therefore this is questionable.
 * Did you forget about this confirmation that they dropped a while ago? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 09:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * No. I saw that, and I believe it does not show nor prove any disruptive behaviour. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 10:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You seemed to have forgotten something here. That user was confirmed to have abused multiple accounts back in December 2020. How many times do I have to repeat myself here? (It's bad enough when I see somebody oblivious to the fact that I have no idea was related to I have no idea 2.0, considering the fact that himself has investigated and determined I have no idea 2.0 / I have no idea was the main master, behind such accounts like Santa Claus, among such troll accounts.) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:39, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair enough with the Santa Claus thing, though it wasn't clear what account you were talking about in the block summaries on the GRWs. As for the I have no idea situation, I am not saying they are not the same account, just that the sockpuppetry was not necessarily disruptive. Also, the accounts' global user pages should be changed to be accurate, too. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 11:12, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your understanding. I know what I said above was just purely out of frustration, but keep in mind that I have no idea has outright admitted to operating the I have no idea 2.0 account prior to being globally locked. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Likely this lock was confirmed with technical evidence that has long expired and is not able to be retrieved. Locks for sockpuppetry overwhelmingly have technical confirmation which can override even vague behavioral indications that people can see looking back long after the fact. There are likely other locks or contexts in this case which are not immediately obvious. Unless the original operator of the account appeals or overwhelming third party evidence is provided, this lock will not be overridden. --Raidarr (talk) 12:05, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I concur with Raidarr's assessment here, FatBurn0000. That being said, assuming the operator of said accounts has not already created other accounts that were involved in similar behaviours, given the passage of time, if the operator were to e-mail Stewards at, owning up to the vandalism and sockpuppetry, acknowledging any more contemporary accounts they created in good-faith, and promised not to repeat the behaviour, I have no doubt Stewards would be very accepting of that and allow the user to either (a) continue using their more contemporary account(s), (b) create a new account, or (c) request one of the prior accounts be unlocked, all in compliance with user accounts policy. Dmehus (talk) 18:03, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Regardless, the statements on the user pages should be fixed, as the I have no idea should be marked as a former account. Wikipedia has a template called former account, maybe Miraheze could create something like that. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 23:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really matter at this point. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:19, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I beg to differ; it should be changed to prevent confusion. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 02:59, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Let's just agree to disagree, even if what you said is correct. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:36, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

CheckUser request for 2 suspected RickERB23 sockpuppets

 * Schoolboy99
 * LambChop90

I am making this request because I have been observing some very eerily familiar behavior from both parties that are identical to the master: These 2 accounts have been very hostile towards other editors on both the  and the. For example, this hostile edit summary (or otherwise inappropriate comment) from LambChop90 is identical to RickERB23's comments in terms of hostility.

Similar hostile behavior from all parties: LambChop90 vs. RickERB23. LambChop90 vs. RickERB23.

Similar behavior when engaging in edit-warring: Schoolboy99 vs. LambChop90 vs. RickERB23

As you can see, there's a lot of behavioral similarities between these 2 accounts and the master, that is, if we were to go further in depth of how they are quacking similarly to one another. Hope this gets done as soon as possible. Thank you. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * For an example pertaining to Schoolboy99 and, there is edit summaries like this, where he compared me to China just for removing political stuff. Rick demonstrated similar behavior to removal of problematic material through a previous sock, RadarYo47, in this topic where he demonstrated the same irrationally uncivil behavior as Rick. Marxo Grouch  (talk) 01:50, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the report. I have ✅ the mentioned accounts plus a newly registered one that was also him. I have also ✅ two IP ranges abused by him across multiple wikis which should keep him away for a while. Let me know if he returns, thanks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:08, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Also, was DemonCobra22 a ✅ sockpuppet of his? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:53, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * A new account, RounderFortheWin, just showed up and is continuing this stupid debacle, as shown in this edit-summary, consistent with LambChop90's hostile edit-summaries. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Moderators taking a lot to approve my request
Hi there, my wiki request has been declined because the reason is in English and my wiki is in Spanish (yeah, Spanish is my main language) and i updated my request, and they're taking over 24 hours to review my request, they usually take around 5-7 hours or so FranciscoLol2009 (talk) 19:28, 30 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Wiki creation times vary a lot. Some days, requests get approved within a minute, others with a few hours. It depends on how many wiki creators are around to service requests. Anyhow, your request was approved by me. Thanks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:25, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Not logged in people can't search pages on my wiki
Hey so, my friend (who doesn't have a Miraheze account) can't search pages on my wiki, i logged out and it also happend to me, can you make something so people who aren't logged in can search pages FranciscoLol2009 (talk) 18:33, 31 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, it was because my wiki was private FranciscoLol2009 (talk) 18:37, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Report Wikilouco users for cyberbully
Tem um usuário chamado Jonnys que fez alguns artigos copiando as minhas discussão louca que eu comento pela destruipedia, eu tentei conversar com o The Log, o atual burocrata naquela Wiki para dar um jeito nesse usuário, mas ele além de zombar do meu pedido, como também me baniu infinitamente nessa wiki e deletou todas as minhas edições feitas naquele site. Eu acredito que eles estejam quebrando alguma regra sobre essa comunidade, sobre desrespeito dos usuários.

Translation: There is a user called Jonnys who made some articles copying my crazy discussion that I comment on destruipedia, I tried talking to The Log, the current bureaucrat on that Wiki to fix this user, but he not only mocked my request, but also infinitely banned me from this wiki and deleted all my edits made on that site. I believe they are breaking some rule about this community, about disrespecting users. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 02:32, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Só para esclarecer, Jonnys copiou alguns artigos da Destruipedia e você pediu a The Log para removê-los, certo? Se sim, você pode me linkar as páginas que ele copiou? Obrigado.
 * Eng: Just to clarify, Jonnys copied some articles from Destruipedia and you asked The Log to remove them, right? If so, can you link me the pages he copied? Thanks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:40, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * As I said, The Log deleted all my edits on that Wiki, but I admit I was a little ignorant with the bureaucrat, as it's part of my satirical personality. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 02:49, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I see but I am just asking for you to clarify this more for me to understand what's going on. From what I understand, Jonnys copied a discussion from Destruipedia, you asked The Log to remove it(?) and The Log banned you, correct? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:57, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I understand now, it's not articles copied on Destruipedia, but my comments. This Jonny copied some of my opinions as you can compare here, which embarrassed me, because I didn't give permission to copy what I write on other sites, even more to make fun of. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 03:02, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Well, I didn't directly say to delete his articles, but rather that he could cause problems if this guy continues to attack. But the bureaucrat just ignored it, so I was meaner to him, which caused him to banish me. A pity is that he deleted and hidden, what I had written there. But The Log rewrote a comment of mine that I made in my own thread, this is very visible, that if you can view supplied edits. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 03:07, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I can see the hidden edits. While I believe you should not have been overly rude with your comments, I do believe a full blown ban is unwarranted. I will request more information from the bureaucrat and I'll get back to you soon. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 03:18, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes I appreciate your technical help. For me, just deleting the articles created by this Jonny will be enough. But about me being rude, it's part of my personality on this account, but here because it's a more serious area, so I should write seriously. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 10:39, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@Commentary, eu sou apenas considerado um vândalo na Desciclopedia, em Uncommons e na UnMeta onde me citou eu não sou ainda um vândalo, sendo os meus únicos erros era eu ter banido indevidamente o Terror e ter entrado em atrito com o JPLSilva. Na Wikimerda eu tenho alguns atritos com os usuários, mas nada toxico conforme você me acusou diretamente, ao contrário dos usuários do Wikilouco que andam me atacando diretamente com artigos com indiretas a mim. Pois nessas wikis onde me chamas de vândalo eu me chamo Dragomaniaco, mas não tem nada haver com assuntos da comunidade Miraheze e não uso essas plantaformas para fazer ataques diretos as pessoas. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 17:42, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

More than a day has passed and the problem of this user here that attacked me by copying everything I I talk on another wiki, with the bureaucrat who lets these things happen there. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 10:50, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Parece que finalmente o The Log respondeu na sua discussão Agent, mas ele não se justificou o motivo dele deixar que outro usuários tipo o Jonny usam a plantaforma para me bulinar. E mais uma coisa, é certeza absoluta que esse usuário não é o The Log, ele conviveu comigo por muitos anos na Desciclopedia, ele saberia muito bem dizer as confusões que eu causei por lá, ao contrário dessa pessoa falsa se passando por ele, apesar que por aqui ser uma wiki diferente da versão do Carlb, o usuário tem o direito de adotar qualquer nome que ele desejar, infelizmente.


 * Translation: Looks like The Log finally responded in your Agent thread, but he didn't explain why he let other users like Jonny use the platform to tease me. And one more thing, it is absolutely certain that this user is not The Log, he lived with me for many years on Desciclopedia, he would know very well how to tell the confusion I caused there, unlike this fake person pretending to be him, despite that because this is a different wiki than the Carlb version, the user has the right to adopt any name he wants, unfortunately. Pérola Maniaco (talk) 15:59, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

local interwiki administrator election
Hello, 开炸弹车 and I would like to request a local interwiki administrator position on the [//nmfwiki.miraheze.org NMFWiki]. We read the qualifications at Interwiki administrators and feel We are eligible for the position. We posted two posts on mh:nmfwiki:NT:讨论区/申请用户组 on the wiki, and have received no opposition. Thank you! -- 坑触可 (talk) 08:39, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, 开炸弹车 and I post two threads here. I want to close our local interwiki administrator election. Thanks. --坑触可 (talk) 03:53, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

CheckUser request for RTP

 * RTP

If you'll look at the abuse log for RTP, while it does seem to be a false positive for the nonciclopedia LTA, there are strong suggestions of illegitimate and duplicitous sockpuppetry given the largely two-party and ongoing dispute between two users on. Agent Isai is aware, but this more contemporary development does suggest a CheckUser request is in order. If confirmed, I'd suggest at least global locks for the socks, and a final warning to the master. Dmehus (talk) 16:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Commentary

Update: Another recent user account has emerged with similar abuse log hits to RTP warranting a CheckUser investigation, particularly given the targeted nature of the edits, or attempted edits. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 20:30, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of the following pages from yokaiwatch.miraheze.org
Hello, I would like to request the deletion of the following pages from yokaiwatch.miraheze.org as I do not have the permissions to do it.
 * The Importance Of Wedding Rings And Tungsten Carbide - vandalism
 * Best Lactose Intolerance Tablets And Ideas For Traveling With Lactose Intolerance - vandalism
 * Yo-kai Watch Blasters - vandalism ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 18:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * ZeusDeeGoose, thanks for your report. The Importance Of Wedding Rings And Tungsten Carbide and Best Lactose Intolerance Tablets And Ideas For Traveling With Lactose Intolerance look to be lingering spam, rather than vandalism. The pages' creating user accounts, RobtRnw664185213 and DarrinMatra077 should also be globally locked as spambots; however, given the age of the spam page creations, a CheckUser investigation would be fruitless. Yo-kai Watch Blasters created by 2601:58a:180:44c0:9d9a:d535:277e:78fc looks to be a cross between vandalism and nonsense, so can be deleted as the latter. 2601:58a:180:44c0:9d9a:d535:277e:78fc looks to be a Comcast cable IP address, and could be blocked for vandalism, including globally, but given the age, that wouldn't be necessary. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 18:42, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying. ZeusDeeGoose (talk) 22:27, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * All the pages have been deleted, thank you for your report! Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:29, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

CheckUser request for 2 suspected Anti villain/ Gigdsclasp sockpuppets

 * PawnDonetskRussia
 * PwanDonetskRussia

Aside from their duck-like usernames being similar to one another, there was one thing that caught my eye immediately: Their edits on this particular page on the Real Life Villains Wiki overlap with not just each other, but other prior socks such as Biyong, Pol Piyá Cm, Putin travels prevents his feces from falling into enemy hands, among the other socks that may or might not be listed in this report. In both PawnDonetskRussia and PwanDonetskRussia's edits, most of their edits are mostly focused on Vladimir Putin. I am hereby requesting a CheckUser on both of these accounts, and flush away any potential sleepers if possible. Thank you, and happy editing! :) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:48, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Something to say
uh, yesterday I self-requested to lock and vanish this account, plus, I've received a mention from said post but the revisions got wiped (and my account is still unlocked/un-vanished). I'm kinda confused, what happened? ComradeRabbit95 (talk) 18:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Simple answer: It had to be oversighted because publicly requesting your account to be vanished would be a bit of a problem. In any case, use the TSPortal or send an email to request your account to be vanished. That is the advice I could give you. Hope it helps. :) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:10, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Understood, that's what I've just done, thank you! Now this thread can be removed if required to.
 * You're welcome, and I'm glad the advice worked for you. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Issues with Gyaanipedia
First of all I couldn't able to edit anything at Special:ManageWiki page on English Gyaanipedia https://en.gyaanipedia.com and many of the users are reporting that they are facing permission error issue like this.

Please help me in solving these errors. Thanks. Shaunak Chakraborty (talk) 15:14, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have procedurally moved the thread back to as a more suitable venue. I will respond soon regarding your case. Cheers, Matttest (talk | contribs) 23:30, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Noting that this has been answered on my local talk page. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:07, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of maraichers.miraheze.org
Hello,

Could you please delete the maraichers.miraheze.org wiki? I have retrieved its contents already and thus do not need a backup. I am aware this deletion cannot be undone.

Thanks for your services. Xavierg (talk) 21:33, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The wiki is already deleted. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 09:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Dormancy exemption request
Hey admins, I'd like to request that my wiki — the Republic of Independent Acadia — be exempt from deletion on account of it being a long term personal writing project. I've seen this reasoning used on other wikis listed on the exemptions page so thought I'd try my luck at getting the same exemption. It's far from my only creative venture so my contributions to it are sporadic. HanTyumi (talk) 06:05, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I see that the wiki doesn't have too many pages just yet, is there a particular reason why you anticipate that you won't be editing this wiki but will still need the few pages? Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 09:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not that I don't expect to make a lot of edits or add a lot of pages, the reasoning is that like I said my edits and writing is sporadic. So I may go long periods without editing it, but not abandoning it either. HanTyumi (talk) 21:34, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Dormancy exemption request for erawiki
Dear Stewards, I am a bureaucrat and sysop of erawiki (wiki.erag.eu.org).

In accordance with the requirements of the Dormancy exemption, I would like to apply for a Dormancy exemption on behalf of that wiki. The reasons are as follows: 1. This wiki is currently for reading purposes only, and we have documented most of the era games currently available on the web. 2. This wiki is currently largely complete, with close to 200 pages covering game descriptions, playthroughs, cheats, troubleshooting, and more. We hope that you will pass our application, for which we are very grateful. ICARUSINERA (talk) 13:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, this is now ✅. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 13:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * We are much obliged to you for your great help. Thanks a lot! ICARUSINERA (talk) 16:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)