Stewards' noticeboard/Archive 20

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Request for dormancy exemption
Hello. I wanted to request a dormancy exemption for SocDemWiki, if possible. I am currently hospitalized and I can't guarantee that I will be able to edit regularly. GR (talk) 21:24, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


 * GR Firstly, I'm sorry to hear about your hospitalization, and hope you recover soon. Secondly, thank you for your request for an exemption to Dormancy Policy, which I've now assessed. Content wise, your wiki definitely has sufficient content, much of it original content, intended to be read by real people. In terms of need, while your wiki is fairly active, looking at Special:ListUsers on your wiki, it looks like most of the contributions to your wiki have indeed come from you, with Benzix and TheDLCguy in second and third, respectively. A few others have made a handful of edits, but generally speaking, roughly 98% of the edits to your wiki have been by the three of you. On that basis, and assuming your activity level on the wiki stays diminished, I think we can justify an indefinite exemption; it's just when you're back, you are indeed very active. As well, keep in mind that there only needs to be one recent change (edit or log action) on your wiki every 45 days to prevent it from becoming inactive. Would a one year exemption to Dormancy Policy be sufficient, or would you prefer an indefinite exemption, subject to review later if your wiki's activity levels change materially? Dmehus (talk) 21:50, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Doug. A 1 year exemption would be fine. Thanks for the help. GR (talk) 07:18, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * GR Thanks for the quick response. Exemption to Dormancy Policy ✅ for one year per your stated reason above and because you expect a limited number of your wiki's regular editors to have greatly diminished activity levels for the foreseeable future on a wiki with content intended to be read by real people. This can be extended beyond this timeframe, including indefinitely, as required. Dmehus (talk) 08:44, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

MrJaroslavik's permissions
Hello Stewards, Please remove my wiki creator and global sysop permissions. Also i don't want have this done by DM, please respect that, thanks for understanding.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 09:22, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I apologize in advance if the reason for this resignation is an obvious one but as you have noticed I am not always around and active. If it is not too much would you be willing to express the reason of your departure? I find it very unfortunate that a helpful Global Sysop has suddenly decided to leave the project without an explation. DeeM28 (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello I think you know reason for this step. I didn't mentioned it because i don't want create more conflicts. But where i said i leaving project? I will definitely come back in few months if things and atmosphere will be better. I really don't want be active on project where is hostile atmosphere only because one user that ignore all raised concerns and taking more and more power (or hats if you want). That is all i can say, thank you.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 20:33, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I, too, would like you to stay because you have been a big part of Miraheze. However, I can’t decide for you, and if you decide to leave, then you’re always welcome back. --Anton (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your message,--MrJaroslavik (talk) 20:33, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand. I confess that I did have a suspicion that this was the reason but I did not want to speculate and preferred to make sure that my suspicion was correct. I still think it is unfortunate that you are resigning your global sysop permissions because that will only hurt the community itself and not the user who you are in conflict with. I have attempted to propose solutions to this dispute which centers on different working methods and different strong perceptions. I doubt looking at it this way can make things better but it seems to me that the community would be able to judge if someone was maliciously trying to collect hats and would stop such a person by not electing them. If the community chooses to elect a person it is sure that the community sees something good in that person.


 * As for solution to the conflict I have proposed one: to create a guide on Meta. It appears that it was not very liked but I do not understand how it is possible to proceed otherwise? The conflict arises from different views and unless the community as a whole decides which view is the one they want to accept why should one view prevail? Here is an example: User 1 thinks strongly that users who edit with their IP address logged out should be Oversighted without request and sees this as common sense. User 2 thinks the users need to request before oversight and also sees this as common sense. The only way to decide on a rule is for the community to vote on it. The notion of common sense is not helpful because it is relative and not absolute. I wished that everyone involved would be willing to find a common solution and guide rather than insist on a specific view and call it the "common sense" or insist that it is the correct and only view. I am sad to see you resign from your global rights and hope you decide to return. DeeM28 (talk) 11:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't this involve enforcing policies that haven't been enforced for quite a while, or no? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello I see is that he ignores all concerns.  I also see that he is not willing to change anything.  I don't want hurt that user, i want to be inactive on project where - you saw that in my reply above. Also i am one user, it's not such a blow to the project, right?  It may be selfish, but I gave reasons for this step.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 12:26, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you for your time contributing in these roles. John (talk) 20:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Please Remove My (R4356th) Rights
It has been great cooperating with other Wiki Creators and Interwiki Administrators over the months in our respective duties but with some users continuously harassing me, I have decided to resign my IW Admin and WC rights. Please remove them (if you are not Dmehus). Thank you. 10:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I am sorry to hear that you have been experincing harassment here. With the risk of sounding insensitive, why not report the people who have been harassing you and get them to leave rather than allowing them to win and to get you to resign? I would imagine you mean off-wiki and off-Meta harassment. I cannot help to notice the timing of this resignation and am doubtful that it has nothing to do with MrJaroslavik's resignation and is a coincidence but I am puzzled and disappointed at the news of these very sudden resignations. It is a great misfortune for this project to be losing two volunteers and I wish that this can be resolved in another way rather than a resignation with no explanation. DeeM28 (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Honestly, the reason should be crystal clear to anyone familiar with the matter. I cannot find any logical reason for hanging around somewhere your voice is not heard. The Board promised to take the good standing of T&S Responders but did not follow through (see the minutes from the last Board meeting) and the appointed T&S Responder is still busy acting on his personal grievances towards me and possibly even some others. 12:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The Board did take into account the good standing of all candidates - deciding not to progress on one who was not readily and clearly established in a strong community position at the time. As the said person is now actively involved in a position led by the company, this opens up a neutral method for you to ensure appropriate action occurs namely through the use of complaints procedure, particularly if the things you are mentioning are true. These problems were not apparent in the recent discussions where the community expressed there was still a case of the user being in good standing for the community, and neither is it noted that any complaint regarding the appointment has been raised with the Board until I came across this public comment. Owen (talk) 13:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry you're leaving here too. You have also been important here in the community. Hopefully we’ll be back someday sometime. --Anton (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I wish you good luck in your future life. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 14:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you for your time contributing in these roles. John (talk) 20:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * With MrJaroslavik's resignation of Global Sysop, who's going to replace him anyways? (That is, if I'm allowed to ask at all.) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:16, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There are no upper or lower limits on members of Global Sysop. Any community member can nominate themselves at any time, either before the rights were removed. If no one nominates themselves and passes a request successfully, then no one would in theory 'replace' them. John (talk) 20:26, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * So I guess there's no limit to that, is there? I mean, just having Reception123 as a global sysop just doesn't sound fair to me. While he's absolutely the most active Global Sysop, don't you think there needs to be more than just 1 though? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I do think there needs to be more. John (talk) 00:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for removing them. 22:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Listing of spambots from Celeste Wiki
Hey all. I'm suffering from a recent spam invasion on Celeste Wiki. Would it be possible to CU-/16 and g-lock them, and if possible, block any IP ranges which are spamming? Thanks!


 * Special:CentralAuth/DebraCarrell858
 * Special:CentralAuth/RossWheatly72
 * Special:CentralAuth/AlbaBell94549599
 * Special:CentralAuth/GonzaloMcKillop
 * Special:CentralAuth/ValerieClogstoun

I've requested an NDA for the purposes of hopefully eventually being able to get local checkuser so I no longer have to ask here (or ask on the Miraheze discord). Anyways, that is all... for now. Thanks! Celeste (talk) 21:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Celeste Yeah, I've noticed, and I've ✅ the second through fourth ones, but haven't had a chance to reply to you on Discord. I've just noticed the last one, and missed the first one, so will do that as well. Dmehus (talk) 21:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Alrighty. Sorry for the doubleping! I'm just exhausted from the extensive amount of spam that has been coming in, and I feel helpless when it comes to purging them. Celeste (talk) 21:49, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Celeste No problem (and the final accounts are now locked, and global rangeblocks implemented). Yeah...the spam only accounts are a problem. I have a couple ideas, one is an abuse filter that prevents account creation, which I'm testing on TestWiki. Another is enabling StopForumSpam as either a global or default extension on Miraheze, but likely requires having Site Reliability Engineering set up a cron (weekly, perhaps?) to have the blacklisted IP list downloaded and updated on Miraheze servers. A final one is further refinement of our existing global spam filters, which I'm going to discuss with Void and John about improvements that can be made. Dmehus (talk) 21:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I also wonder whether a bunch of Leaseweb global blocks expired. Perhaps John or Void wouldn't mind putting together a mass global block and nuking the Leaseweb ASN(s)? Dmehus (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Personally, I am only really skilled at spam countering via IP rangeblocks (which I generally put on for five years) and abuse filters. Feel free to consult me considering the latter; an improved anti-spam filter could be as simple as a three-strikes-and-you-are-out system. Celeste (talk) 21:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Please delete Dreadful Books Wiki
Hi. I'm the creator and former owner of dreadfulbooks.miraheze.org. I'd really want you to delete the wiki as I completely regret ever creating it due to them being part of the Reception Wikis/Qualitipedia. Don't just close it. Remove it completely.

Thank u, next, Eiji (talk) 23:14, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Eiji While you may have founded that wiki, as it's an active wiki with a fairly active community, you'd need to establish consensus of that wiki's community to request that it be deleted. If negative actions were taken against you for starting that discussion, then that would be something Stewards could be requested to help mediate. However, as of right now, absent serious Content Policy problems on the wiki which local administrators have not remediated, there's nothing for Stewards to do here. Dmehus (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Spambots from ahinfoboxeswiki
Got a couple of spambots:
 * AnnetteGormansto (abuse log)
 * AmyPond680924 (abuse log)

— Arcversintalk 23:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Arcversin Yes, and I did notice a third one from your  as part of locking some other ones. Anyway, those two are now ✅, with applicable global block(s) effected as well. Dmehus (talk) 00:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Spam-bots on their user pages from Crappy Games Wiki to lock:

 * Kuskelcer
 * Ghageim
 * Gareming
 * Gharadorm
 * Phuvcer
 * Tunlor
 * Hatending
 * Quaidusk
 * Phaperqua
 * Ondancha
 * Inadray

Their profile on their user pages are very identical to each other, and has similar external links. Should they be locked? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Whoops, forgot this one:
 * Sauvril. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Ah, yes, the sneakier type of spam only account&mdash;the ones that use their social profiles. Anyway, ✅ and effected applicable global blocks. You may want to consider using Special:EditProfile to blank out their spammy link description section, then deleting their social profile. Dmehus (talk) 15:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Problem is, we don't have that on our Special Pages page on Crappy Games Wiki. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Oh, you probably need to add the  user right to your wiki's   group, though you may want to have a discussion with the Crappy Games Wiki community first (maybe at Talk:Crappy Games Wiki, perhaps?) to see (a) if they're okay with administrators having this right and, if so, (b) to defining the conditions where it may be used (i.e., only to remove spam weblinks, serious verbal attack comments towards another user, etc.) Dmehus (talk) 15:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Why didn't I think of doing that before? I'm referring to your reply above. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bother you, but someone else reported on Discord that they too, were flooded with spam-bots on of their wikis triggering the abuse logs in recent days. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)