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Wiki exemption request
Hi! Please, is there a way to make the wiki  exempt from the Dormancy Policy? I have several reasons for this:
 * The wiki has duplicate content stopped from the old blog I ran on the same subject. Therefore, it was futile for not being indexed properly in search engines and the content was cloying. After importing, I had to change some content and wrong words. I will be deleting the blog posts soon.
 * We don't expect many editors given the style of content (and the fact that there is a full community wiki with a 'similar' scope is actually far from that). Of course we appreciate new editors if possible, but it's not urgent at the moment.
 * Content has a certain Importance over help, which is definitely a reason for the exemption. There are no other wikis with a specific scope for this one, and we'll be over 30 articles soon and growing. Also, the contents generally don't need to be very 'busy', or rather, updated.
 * Content is precious.
 * I will soon ask to delete some useless wikis that I use to save maintenance storage. This is the second and last wiki that I ask for exemption, as it is extremely important.

Thanks! YellowFroggerAlt (talk) 02:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * You're not supposed to evade your block by using another account. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, this looks to have been a good-faith request; however, you should have used your user talk page. I will revert the block as sockpuppetry is managed by Stewards, lock your alternate account, and your alternate account will not be unlocked until all existing global and Meta Wiki user/editing restrictions of your main account have been lifted. Please consider this your absolute final warning on the matter. You are not to edit on Meta Wiki, other than your user talk page. You may use admin help to request assistance of a Meta administrator. If it relates to something within Stewards' purview, they will be sure to ping them to your request. As to your Dormancy Policy exemption request, this will be separately considered, and you informed of the outcome on your user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 02:34, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Resignation of rights
Please remove my wikicreator flag. Thanks. --Magogre (talk) 04:18, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Magogre, ✅, with regrets but thanks for your service. Dmehus (talk) 04:25, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Restore accidentally revoked rights
I created a new wiki about 10 minutes ago called scratchscprp (https://scratchscprp.miraheze.org/), and I was removing the "ManageWiki" right, as I had created another user group with this right (superadmin). I believed I had this group, but for some reason when I had "added" it, it did not add the user group, assuming the group was ready to go, I removed the ManageWiki right, again, assuming I had the group. I can't edit my wiki anymore and I wasn't even near close to finishing. GAMS2 (talk) 23:01, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I've restored the managewiki permission to the bureaucrat group. Be sure to double check your group membership before removing such important rights next time :) -- Void  Whispers 23:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I also wrote a literal note in the "reason for change" when I allowed for adding the group to myself, thanks again! GAMS2 (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Request to remove Bureaucrat status for resigned user
One of our wiki Bureaucrats on the Unofficial English Twisted Wonderland Wiki (User:Sugarbeans) has officially resigned from the team. We would like to request for the removal of their Bureaucrat role in line with this. Xnotyuki (talk) 06:57, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Xnotyuki, ✅, as the local wiki user rights log entries make it clear enough the user was intending to resign from all advanced permissions, but technically restricted from removing the  bit by the wiki's ManageWiki configuration, which is also the recommended ManageWiki configuration. Should the user request the   permission again, you, or another bureaucrat on the wiki, can re-add it in line with the local wiki policies. Dmehus (talk) 16:59, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Asking to make me the Administrator here
Reason: I was in Miraheze for about 2 years, I initially went to Miraheze because I was interested in moving my wiki in the Fandom to Miraheze but because of problems the activity was canceled but after I was taken down from the Fandom I tried to move here, my friend has a wiki here that is no longer used (link : https://tolololpedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Halaman_Utama) I've opened the wiki but now I want to get more permissions so I can manage the wiki completely ChioGaming2007 (talk) 14:11, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ChioGaming2007, please request permissions locally from any bureaucrat, in line with any local policies (should any exist), including, but not limited to, on their user talk page. If no response is received within a few days or so, please return here, asking Stewards to implement a local sitenotice to advertise your permissions request prominently and allow any community members to express views (whether positive or negative). After about a week or so, rights may be granted by Stewards. Dmehus (talk) 17:08, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The bureaucrat has long retired or is no longer active ChioGaming2007 (talk) 21:48, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That may well be. Nevertheless, while I realize this is a bit bureaucratic (pardon the pun, which was not intended), our processes call for following this formality, mainly in cases on wikis where there are other community members. Dmehus (talk) 21:51, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Deletion
I would like to request for my wiki, ApadoTech to be deleted from Miraheze due to the organization surrounding ApadoTech collapsed and now not longer exist. ApadoTech Wiki is accessible here: https://apadotech.miraheze.org/wiki/ApadoTech_Wiki Small Pig reporter (talk) 09:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC)


 * As you are the wiki's sole contributor and and per your rationale otherwise, the wiki has been ✅. --Raidarr (talk) 18:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Lock accounts
Please lock these users.

User:U+1F602 Thought that was how to make super emoji usernames :( User:ミラクルミュージカル  I genuinely don't know the point of this account.

User:Jetnet Same as above, made a long time ago, back when dinosaurs ruled the land.

Yes, I did copy and paste these from my alt list :P -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 00:33, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Dmehus (talk) 00:36, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Why are those right-wing idiots taking over Qualitipedia?

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Out of scope of stewards' noticeboard. As an aside, the Qualitipedia wikis are arguably known more for users of left leaning ideologies. Please also be mindful of the language used to refer to other users. Dmehus (talk) 02:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

MJ2003 (talk) 01:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


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Can the Delightful Music and Songs Wiki and Worst Music and Songs Wiki please be reopened?
In this month, the Music reception wikis were closed. However, there are reasons why it NEEDS to be reopened. They can be helped with, and there are stll a lot of edits to do. MarioBobFan (talk) 00:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


 * MarioBobFan, please see this blog post on the matter. These two wikis have significant Content Policy issues, mainly around improperly copied content from  and its sister wiki, without attribution. Even if attribution is added, it becomes a content fork wiki of those wikis, requiring Steward mediation. I've suggested two possible options to Raidarr, in his   capacity. One is to make the wikis private, inviting editors into the wiki to assist with tagging duplicated pages for deletion or assisting with other remediation activities. The other is a potential Qualitipedia Wiki local RfC proposing to close and delete the wikis, encouraging editors to edit on the very similar non-Qualitipedia wikis. Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:09, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * In supplement to this and in my local capacity, I have opted to simply close the wikis and allow manual addition of anyone who is interested in bettering them. Feel free to volunteer at the blog dmehus linked, and be one of the parties to remove duplicate content. If successful they can be reopened and left in the hands of the users who were interested enough to do the work to give them a future. --Raidarr (talk) 09:35, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Vandal threats
Someone threatened to vandalize my wiki for using "his assets" (Weren't created by him nor were copyrighted). Is there anything I can do to stop this guy? I don't have admin yet. (referring to the backrooms wiki which I adopted.) Sheep42 (talk) 17:55, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you that guy who adopted that wiki and is still trying to get rights? Unfortunately the stewards are very slow due to their occupations. About the threat, I believe you are referring to an alert from a user named Josephdapro, he just said that if you copy content from FANDOM wikis they (users from beckrooms FANDOM wiki) have a chance of vandalizing. This same user was being reported for copying content on that same page, so it won't be him who will vandalize this wiki, but FANDOM users. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 18:01, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger may have the right of it. In general, it is necessary to know exactly who the someone is and where the threat was made so we (global sysops/stewardship) can assess our ability to address the problem or advise you on the best path. If action is taken against the wiki before you (or anyone locally) has adminship, a request can be made here and as a global sysop, I am capable of addressing vandalism and conduct issues in absence of local management when it is required. --Raidarr (talk) 21:00, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I just need the ability to block them. Considering that they're from fandom, they're probably 12 and don't know how to use a vpn. Sheep42 (talk) 15:05, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There are a few Stewards who have proven active today, so hopefully your election request will be reviewed very soon. In the meantime if there is something to act on, please report, and additionally it would help to know the source of the threat so we can see if something preventative or to clarify the situation is possible.. --Raidarr (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I've seen it here, it looks like John, a steward, has granted you the rights of bureaucrat and administrator on the Bedroom wiki. Do you plan to do something? Thanks. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 20:59, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * FINALLY! Thank you. Sheep42 (talk) 00:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Grateful. Even so, I would like to know what action you will take against malicious actors. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * jdp here, i pretty much had a similar fight about this whole licensing thing, i suggest you to credit anything taken from other sources if you wanna avoid problems, ok? (sorry for replying a tad bit late)
 * Josephdapro08 (talk) 21:23, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

"Real children feet" wiki should be deleted
This is completely inappropriate and should be deleted, wouldn't you agree? I have no idea how something like this was even approved to begin with:

https://liveactionchildrenfeet.miraheze.org/wiki/Real_Children_Feet_Wiki

--Callipedia (talk) 04:47, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * We've been getting a lot of complaints about that particular wiki. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 12:26, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * How was that wiki approved in the first place? -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 16:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Callipedia, this wiki has been reported, arguably verging on the point of ad nauseam. So, I'll ask you the same thing I've asked other users. How is it violation of Content Policy? Dmehus (talk) 16:53, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * No explanation regarding the content policy is needed. If the content policy allows things like this, then the policy itself is what needs to be revised.
 * Beyond that, I'm not going to argue with people defending this out of intellectual dishonesty. If it isn't removed, then I'll be contacting more important parties about it on my own.--Callipedia (talk) 17:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand your dislike for that wiki, and I won't hide the fact that I don't like it either and would not access it myself. That being said, Dmehus is right, in order for us to investigate or delete a wiki, we do need to be told how exactly it violates our policies (or even a UK law, since I assume that is what you are implying). Saying "come on it's obvious" isn't enough, since while it may be obvious to you that doesn't mean it is to everyone. Removals do have to be according to policy, they can't simply be because we don't like something. There is no need to contact 'more important parties', please just tell us how it violates our policies or UK law if that is what you are alleging. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Miraheze was founded on the basis of freedom of expression, and amending Content Policy to encroach on freedom of expression in such a narrowly defined use case would not be appropriate, in my view, and may actually have a "chilling effect" on the Miraheze platform as a whole. If that niche is targeted, what next? Potentially, this wiki could be examined for potential copyright compliance issues, but even still, I would prefer not to delete a wiki for copyright compliance issues, especially when that is not the real reason users have issues with this wiki. In any case, I've examined the wiki on that basis, and did not find sufficient evidence to prove/disprove any missing copyright attribution, as may have existed. Dmehus (talk) 18:48, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * i think some corrupt person approved this wiki Josephdapro08 (talk) 21:26, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There was absolutely no corruption involved. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  21:27, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey hey hey, none of the Meta admins were corrupt at all. Please remember the Code of Conduct at all times. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:29, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Every complaint I know of on this subject has been a) ambiguous (not citing specific examples of issue), b) moralizing/emotional (again, without citable examples) and automatically assumes the very worst of a wiki (and its entirely nonexistent userbase) that at a content level is suspicious to me from both a) and b), but lacking in usable specifics to take policy-level action against. Having conferred with a few people on this, Miraheze as a platform would rather tolerate things that some, or even a large proportion of people don't care for as long as it lacks explicit issues rather than play gatekeep (especially with already created wikis) which just as easily results in issues on the other side of argument. If you don't like it and you don't have specific citable issues, don't worry about it. At most watch if those suspicions become something more. Today someone acting purely on emotional backlash decided to make an edit against the wiki, which compromises its ongoing fade into obscurity and eventual deletion. Again, don't care for it, let it die. It's silly when the people who so despise it start becoming the people who keep it alive. --Raidarr (talk) 23:42, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Please lock this account. I don't need it anymore. I was also falsely accused of being a "sock" of WG8686.
I don't need this account, lock it right now. That's the only way to delete accounts here. Earthbound (talk) 17:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)Earthbound Earthbound (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


 * You sound incredibly suspicious, and it wouldn't take a genius to figure out that this account is probably just another revived sleeper of WG8686, based on what I am seeing from this thread. If you are indeed him, then please cease this practice at once. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:32, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * In addition, accounts aren't necessarily deleted, unless it is under any normal circumstances, but the fact that you made this request just after Dancing Stickman along with 2 other confirmed sockpuppets of WG8686 makes your request even more suspicious than it already is. I already gave you the option to respond to your talk page for the purposes of expecting an explanation from you. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ John (talk) 18:15, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

sysop
I accidently removed my own sysop permission on. Ora &#38; D (talk) 14:13, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * your access is ✅. I recreated a bureaucrat role for you as a backup, but since the sysop role has managewiki feel free to remove it if you don't want it. Please be careful in design particularly where the  right is concerned. --Raidarr (talk) 19:11, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I would like my account locked please.
I'm doing this because I have a lot on my plate right now and I don't want to become obsessed with this site. I haven't had any incidents or anything, I just want to focus on more important things in the real world. YouKonade (talk) 20:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅. Feel free to message cvt@undefinedmiraheze.org with your account's email if you seek an unlock in the future. --Raidarr (talk) 21:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

== Can you guys remove the reception wikis, since they are biased and they disrespect opinions? And DarkMatterMan4500 is a part of a CP and doxxing wiki, and must be demoted or globally locked on Miraheze... ==


 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * This conversation is not conducive to anything useful. Please take some time to calm down and learn to stop feeding the trolls and to DENY them recognition. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 22:48, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Steward followup, having intended to address this later myself.


 * There is extremely compelling behavioral association between the style of Meta targeting regarding a specific set of wikis and one user from them. The targeting is performed with similar points, similar destinations to act/post on, and trends of angles to pursue that have become quite predictable. The responsible account is now locked, simply for abuse of multiple accounts. The case is more or less long-term abuse now, particularly in light of an ignored advisory.


 * The user may well not be WG8686 and in fact a 'successor', perhaps the incredibly likely alias Nidoking with associated activity on ShoutWiki. It doesn't matter too much to me, only the actions that have been done. I will accept a sincere attempt to reach out to my Raidarr alias there to discuss things. Otherwise this thread and contributions by its initiating user on Meta are part substance and part exaggerative leaning to slander, with nothing reasonable to discuss in this format.


 * Some point hold up, but as has been expressed countless times before this is not the way to go about it, and indeed the cited instances of incivility have been followed up with advisories. Indeed, local admins of the involved wikis still need work to improve, but that is a process that requires time and patience, and people with an axe to grind seeking to grind it locally and/or on Meta are not useful to that end. Again, I will humor discussion when it is indeed in a more useful format, particularly through the stated wiki's central location. --Raidarr (talk) 23:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Ever since DarkMatterMan4500 had been promoted to leader, he has been harassing and swearing at users via deletion and block logs, and made various rude edits on Crappy Games, Awesome Games, Terrible TV Shows, Best TV Shows, Fresh Websites, and Rotten websites wiki. The wikis are very biased and they are only meant to be for opinion bashing. The admins falsely accuse people all the time and get users globally locked. The fact that you guys hired him and trust everything he says is sad. As DarkMatterMan4500 is a doxxer, a sockpuppeter, and a stalker. I want those wikis off this platform, since they are ruining Miraheze's reputation... TheStrongHulk (talk) 18:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


 * And to DMM4500, you are a criminal for doing this...
 * As for Void, I know you might block me for stating the truth but. DMM4500 also needs to be temporarily blocked for harassment, and he also reverted my edits on the wikis for no reason at all even if it is constructive edits. TheStrongHulk (talk) 19:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * thats not true Gilimaster69 (talk) 19:04, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It is true, you didn't read my thread at all... TheStrongHulk (talk) 19:13, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The fact that you guys didn't warn DMM4500 in the past for his rude comments here: awfulmovies.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=DarkMatterMan4500&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=
 * Is proving that you guys literally let him be free from the bans TheStrongHulk (talk) 19:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I also forgot, could you guys warn BlaziEye for this rude comment here meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DarkMatterMan4500&diff=238714&oldid=238712 TheStrongHulk (talk) 19:39, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * If DM4500 removes this thread without a Steward's permission, he knows he's in the wrong in the first place. TheStrongHulk (talk) 20:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Not only are you failing to provide any evidence that you aren't WG8686, but both links you provided don't really prove anything. The first one is vague as on what we should be looking for and the second seems to be more exasperation with you pestering DarkMatterMan4500 over a reverted edit while once again not providing evidence of your innocence. In short, you have no strong argument in your favor. Marxo Grouch (talk) 21:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * 1. Look at his deletion log many of them say "Fuck off" and other rude comments.
 * 2. That breaks Miraheze's TOS though... TheStrongHulk (talk) 21:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Look at this one in the deletion logs on AMW 14:55, 27 August 2021 DarkMatterMan4500 talk contribs deleted page Blog:You're forced to. (Fuck off already.) TheStrongHulk (talk) 21:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * And this one BlaziEye admits for using their users for pages, while harassing me at the same time...
 * Will you STOP THIS already WG8686? You are completely worthless to us, absolutely no one wants you on our wikis at all because we all find you to be insufferably annoying and unintelligent. You are not welcome on our wikis and will never be, so accept it for once in your miserable life. --Blazikeye535 TheStrongHulk (talk) 22:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * And he also falsely accuses me of being WG8686 (A retired editor) TheStrongHulk (talk) 22:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * While I won't try to deny that "fuck off" is rather rude, those statements, from what I'm aware of, are directed at only one user, -abigblueworld-, an actual long-term abuser who is explicitly out to pester DarkMatterMan4500. Given said user's persistence, "fuck off" might have just been DarkMatterMan4500 venting frustration, which is kinda understandable.
 * While Blazikeye535 does have a history of blunt and sometimes rude comments, the fact that you were pestering DarkMatterMan4500 about a reverted edit kinda proves his point about you being an annoyance in addition to you not still not showing evidence that you aren't WG8686. Also, it's Code of Conduct (CoC), not Terms of Service (ToS). Marxo Grouch (talk) 22:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Those are both against CoC though... TheStrongHulk (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Also DarkMatterMan4500 reverted my constructive edits on the wikis for no apparent reason... And he didn't even read it... TheStrongHulk (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


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Creating a wiki in the same subdomain as an old one I asked to delete
Hi! I apologise for any trouble as a result of my request. A few months ago, I had a wiki in the altepoch.miraheze.org subdomain and I was its only bureaucrat. I asked to have the wiki deleted and it that was done. Now, if possible, I would love to have a wiki in that subdomain and asked to create one. However, my request was denied on the grounds that it already exists and I should ask its bureaucrat for permission to edit it or go on the wiki and reopen it. I can't do that as when I try to access it I get a 404 not found error.

I'd really appreciate any help on this but I also understand if this is a closed case since I did ask to have the wiki deleted in the past :) Altepoch (talk) 21:53, 25 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, and thank you for choosing Miraheze. This behavior is typical, as the database isn't dropped yet. Please make a Phabricator account if you haven't already, and request for the database to be dropped there. -- Cheers, Bukkit(Public) ( Talk • Contribs ) 23:44, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You can also request that a Steward undelete the wiki, as the database hasn't been dropped yet. This would restore the wiki as it was when you requested deletion, and you would retain your bureaucrat/sysop access. — Arcversin (talk) 02:46, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I was intending to follow up on this and became bogged in other issues and the potential Phabricator task of the first suggestion. Please let me know if you'd like to start afresh completely (requiring the phab task, but not steward action) or undelete and retool the wiki yourself with a new scope (no phab task, includes likely my action or Dmehus if he gets there first). --Raidarr (talk) 13:31, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Altepoch, as Arcversin suggested, and since you yourself requested this wiki originally, the best approach here is simply to undelete the wiki. I'm not quite sure why Bukkit suggested the wiki database be dropped. In any case, I agree with Raidarr above that likely the first suggestion created some confusion and delayed it being undeleted, so this has now been ✅. If you are wanting to completely empty your wiki and reset it, that can still be requested on Phabricator, but as it stands, all existing content and images are available to you on your private wiki. Dmehus (talk) 15:13, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh thank you so much! That's perfect. Thanks for doing it so quickly! I really appreciate it :D Altepoch (talk) 15:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The user says “However, my request was denied on the grounds that it already exists”
 * The database most likely was not dropped yet, so it says that it exists, because of the fact that the database has not yet been dropped. -- Cheers, Bukkit ( Talk • All Contribs ) 17:18, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Can my IP address stopped getting blocked?
My IP address keeps on getting blocked on TTS&EW. MarioBobFan (talk) 02:53, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Taking a look at your CentralAuth data, your best course of action would be to try and appeal your block. Besides, your block isn't indefinite and will expire in the summer, so you can alternatively wait for that. Marxo Grouch (talk) 03:40, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. MarioBobFan (talk) 04:02, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I might add that you also still have access to QP Central, where you can either convince admins to shorten or repeal your block. Due to the infamy of your past behavior, should your appeal succeed I see the former as more likely to happen. Marxo Grouch (talk) 20:58, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I've never seen evidence that you need an IP unblock in the same vein as an account unblock, since the point is that you, as a person are blocked, not you, one account but not IPs, and it is near impossible to verify that you have one of the possible legitimate cases (ie, other people involved, not just you who are in good standing). I suggest you just let it go, or appeal the entire block which applies to your person. --Raidarr (talk) 13:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Local elections
Xenharmonic Wiki and Tetris Wiki. Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 19:09, 26 February 2022 (UTC)


 * AlPaD, thank you for your request to have a Steward assess these local election requests, which have now been ✅ (#1 and #2). Lily, please see the closing comments here and here. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 21:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. --LilyLilyu - smile.svg talk and I will listen · Lilypond Wiki 12:20, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Bot account rename request
Could my bot User:ImportBot please be renamed to "Arcverbot"? — Arcversin (talk) 17:17, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Arcversin, this is normally done via Special:GlobalRenameRequest, but since you probably don't login to your bot account manually, I suspect that's why you requested this here. Accordingly, this is ✅. Dmehus (talk) 17:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

My restrictions.
I moved topic here. What's the status on the ban for another wiki creation? Thank you. SperosDurrell (talk) 06:53, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * If you would like to appeal your ban on wiki requests, you should formally state that you are doing so. I would also highly suggest that while doing so, you state the details of the wiki you wish to request should your ban be lifted, and show that you have maintained activity on your other wiki(s). — Arcversin (talk) 07:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * OK but the wikis I have are dead sadly. Can you close them? Thanks. SperosDurrell (talk) 07:18, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You can take a backup of them and delete them if you want.  Anpang 📨 08:21, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * SperosDurrell, okay, so you're looking at your restriction on creating wikis. This is the issue, though. You request wiki, after wiki, after wiki, etc., make a few edits, post on community noticeboard for users to help you edit your wikis, then you lose interest, get bored of them, declare them dead, often requesting closure and/or deletion, then request a new wiki. I would just note you still haven't requested a personal private wiki for yourself, so you still have that option. Moreover, I would be inclined not to remove this restriction, at this stage, as I'm not seeing evidence of enough of a behavioural shift. I would, however, entertain one additional public wiki creation, by having you define, here, the sitename for your wiki, the subdomain for your wiki, and a clear purpose and scope for your wiki (a sentence or two should usually be sufficient. How's that? Dmehus (talk) 09:26, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds good 👍 thank you. SperosDurrell (talk) 14:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Soccer wiki, Sports, It will be about Soccer players old and current, teams, personnel, etc. Anywhere in the world. Statistics, Arenas (stadiums).
 * Sitename, World Footy Wiki. Public
 * Under category sports. Anything else you need, please add. Also I would like to say thank you Doug for possibly allowing this. SperosDurrell (talk) 14:30, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If accepted I will really try hard to contribute cause I love Footy!!! SperosDurrell (talk) 02:08, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * SperosDurrell, okay, I'm not comfortable removing your wiki creation restriction limiting you to one (1) public and one (1) private wiki. Nevertheless, I am comfortable with mediating your wiki request for you. Do you agree not to post more than one (1) thread on community noticeboard promoting your wiki and/or seeking potential volunteers to assist in any assistance you require, and, furthermore, do you agree not to spam users' user talk pages on Meta Wiki asking for help with your wiki? Also, please also specify your . Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 02:50, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I abide by these rules. Also subdomain footyworld.miraheze.org
 * Sincerely. SperosDurrell (talk) 02:56, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * SperosDurrell, ✅, per the above. Dmehus (talk) 09:13, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much Dmehus!!! (Doug)!!! 😊👍 SperosDurrell (talk) 03:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Please make sure you live up to the agreement, and that you stay focused on this wiki over the medium- and long-term. This will make loosening or removing your wiki creation and/or global user restrictions easier. Dmehus (talk) 04:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Request to remove Bureaucrat status for a resigned user
A bureaucrat who announced their resignation on Discord, who is on our wiki (, User:Catte) has been removing content they deem theirs, however when edits are undone, it disturbs a lot of edits others have made and so on. I made this individual a bureaucrat a month after the wiki was created almost three years ago. We would like to request this bureaucrat be removed as a bureaucrat on our wiki, and edits made from 3/2/2022 onward be reverted on our wiki. The individual can contact us separately and we will go back through and assess and remove this content so it doesn't harm the wiki itself or any other updates other users have made as far as templates. Thank you for your help. -- RuneTree (talk) 02:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


 * RuneTree, are you able to link me to the Discord thread on your Discord server where they resigned? Dmehus (talk) 02:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * RuneTree, having joined your wiki's public Discord server, linked from your wiki's main page at, and having verified Catte's resignation request in the Discord administrators' channel you temporarily provided me access to, this has now been ✅. I will let you remove the   permission, as the local bureaucrat on this wiki. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 02:44, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Can users stop disabling talk page access or emails whenever a user is blocked?
Most of the time, whenever a user is blocked forever, they actually get their talk page access and email disabled, despite the fact that those are both ways to be unblocked. MarioBobFan (talk) 05:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Is there something in particular you wish to address? If you wish to address this type of practice on a wiki, please raise it up with the local administrators. Meta does not control admins on other wikis. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:41, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This needs context. Some Qualitipedia administrators still follow poor administrator blocking practice. I would suggest raising this issue with the blocking administrator. If that fails, I would suggest bringing it up on the user talk page of a bureaucrat on the listed here. I suspect you will find at least one bureaucrat with a sympathetic ear, who will surely reply locally. Dmehus (talk) 06:00, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Can users please stop reverting errors?
A lot of users on these site actually infamously revert errors. https://loathsomecharacters.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Timmy_Turner_(Seasons_9_%26_10)&diff=78065&oldid=78022 MarioBobFan (talk) 05:36, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


 * This is an issue you should raise with the local community if you have a concern with it. Please remember that Miraheze Meta is not for resolving little issues like that as we don't control users nor do we manage any wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:39, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * As per what Agent Isai said, I will just note that as an infrequent  patroller and page reviewer, I've locally endorsed your reasonable edit. Dmehus (talk) 05:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Global lock for MirahezeBots
User:MirahezeBots's name is not in compliance with the username policy. Usernames containing "Miraheze" must have an official connection to Miraheze, which this account does not. It is run by a third-party group which was given 3 months (December 4th, 2021 - March 4th, 2022) to remove all Miraheze-related branding from their group, and this commitment was not met, in fact, zero progress has been made and there is no indication of any change. As such, this account needs to be locked for violating the username policy with no commitment on changing their username. Naleksuh (talk) 19:51, 5 March 2022 (UTC)


 * One question: Wouldn't this pretty much screw anything relating to relaying messages up? Aside from that, the fact that you are bringing this up again pretty much begs the question of what the point was behind this request. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:01, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * To my knowledge it would not break anything (doesn't appear to have edited recently, nothing I know of relies on this account), but if it does that's not Miraheze's problem. The account is violating the username policy and they had three months to request a rename (most accounts in the username policy violation usually get just a few days). Naleksuh (talk) 20:08, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This is potentially a good avenue to pursue this, yes. However, MirahezeBots has had the implicit endorsement of Miraheze (SRE + Steward + Board) functionaries since its original name (ZppixBot). Indeed, Void even renamed it from ZppixBot. Thus, this would need either (a) consensus of Stewards or (b) a community discussion/RfC to see whether the community explicitly endorses that username, in my view. As well, this would only apply to the on-wiki account, not the IRC bots, so I'm not certain to what end this would accomplish, since the wiki account isn't even active globally. Dmehus (talk) 20:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, the IRC bot is being handled separately. This thread is just about the wiki account. It doesn't appear to need an RFC, especially when that is not how username policy violations are handled. The account is violating the username policy, but may be unlocked upon a successful rename. Naleksuh (talk) 20:24, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, yes re: the IRC bot, but in terms of global locks per Username Policy, an immediate lock would not be appropriate, as there's no evidence of bad faith. Because of the age of the account, and the fact its rename has been implicitly endorsed by the community, I would not be in favour of issuing a uw-username warning without at least consensus of Stewards to do so&mdash;that is to say, at least three of four Stewards agreeing that it's a Username Policy violation. Alternatively, consensus of Stewards may opt, on a non-binding and advisory basis, seek the community's feedback via a community discussion or RfC (probably the former) on whether MirahezeBots has the community's explicit endorsement to continue using the username it has implicitly endorsed in the intervening years. Dmehus (talk) 20:45, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Consider the above mentioned three of four Steward ratio compromised as I also consider the lock suggestion inappropriate, and frankly I think the basis of the request as well as other efforts to de-integrate the bot to be made in poor faith related to a larger, more murky background of grievance rather than a substantial community issue. --Raidarr (talk) 13:51, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * While I don't agree the Steward ratio to be "compromised" in any way, I do agree that the request by the requestor was likely made in poor/bad faith and completely agree that, given MirahezeBots has had the implied community support by virtue of no one, other than one user, raising a grievance, over the years, it should have a community discussion prior to having the account locked. Dmehus (talk) 15:19, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I want to delete my account
I want to delete my Miraheze account, Deleted user 08:05, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Deleted user, by delete, do you mean rename and lock your own account, making it recoverable, later, or do you mean an irreversible anonymization? Dmehus (talk) 08:11, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I want to delete my account Deleted user 08:16, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Deleted user, accounts can't be deleted, per se, but the Trust and Safety team can initiate a process to fully anonymize your account, renaming it to a random username, and removing all PII from your account. Is that the process you wish to undertake, and do you reside within the European Economic Area (inclusive of the UK as well)? They will still honour your request, regardless of where you reside, but they have certain compliance obligations for users within that region. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 08:21, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes but which of the options? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 08:17, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Deleted user, a reply please? Dmehus (talk) 08:43, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Um. then what? Deleted user 08:51, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Deleted user, please confirm that you want the Trust and Safety team to irrevocably anonymize your account, and whether you reside within the European Economic Area + UK or not. Dmehus (talk) 08:52, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, saw your e-mail. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 08:55, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

2fa OATH
Hello, I have 2fa OATH on Miraheze. I would like to have on Wikimedia and testwiki.wiki, Is it activated if I have the same username there? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 13:28, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * No, they are completely separate sites. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  13:31, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know, but I could put on my factor authentication program 2 same usernames from 2 different sites? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 13:37, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I think RhinosF1 may have misunderstood your question. It is indeed possible to a site external to Miraheze use the shared Miraheze consumer/token, as is done with MirahezeBots Phabricator using Miraheze Meta Wiki as the OAuth authentication mechanism. This, however, would require that the site owner request for a new OAuth consumer to be approved. Miraheze SRE would then need to review the new OAuth consumer request and provide a decision. Dmehus (talk) 15:24, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * OATH is 2FA. They are annoyingly similarly named. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:27, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, right, it's those two apps with the same spelling, but different capitalizations. :P Dmehus (talk) 15:38, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Most 2FA apps should allow you to store more than 1 account and differentiate by something other than username. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  15:28, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that is what I was just about to reply to next, as I suspect that's what they were asking about. For the record, I use, and prefer, Authy, as it allows syncing my keys across devices + works on desktop devices. Dmehus (talk) 15:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have Google authy. AlPaD (talk) 20:50, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Someone put a rude edit summary about me.
mh:loathsomecharacters:Special:Diff/84348 MarioBobFan (talk) 18:55, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * That's not really that rude, as far as I can tell. It's a bit uncivil. Both of you seem to be engaged in a content dispute. I've restored the status quo ante in my local capacity on that wiki, but I would suggest either of you request page protection and both of you discuss the dispute on the talk page. Dmehus (talk) 19:13, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Delete mcnbwiki
Could mcnb be deleted? I've got an xml dump and have put the pages in my private wiki.  Anpang 📨 04:05, 8 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Anpang, ✅ per your well articulated request, with a note that you're the only contributor to this private wiki. Dmehus (talk) 04:13, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Can someone please reopen this wiki?
https://fantasticlegosets.miraheze.org/. MarioBobFan (talk) 00:59, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. --Raidarr (talk) 01:19, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * YAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!! MarioBobFan (talk) 03:03, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't expect this type of response from you, but good luck with the wiki. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:40, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Undeletion of miniescwiki
Per RequestWikiQueue/23425, please undelete miniescwiki. Pinging original requestor Thatnickperson. — Arcversin (talk) 21:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅. --Raidarr (talk) 23:10, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I tried to reopen the automatically closed zenbuddhismwiki. The page did not respond.
How should I do? Rdaido (talk) 05:46, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you elaborate on this? Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:50, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I see what you meant; I saw this a few minutes ago, checked, and noticed the 'closed' notice was a bit inconsistent. I tried to access it centrally (through Meta) and it appeared to be open. I went back to the wiki now and it appears to now be consistently open. I'd conclude that you encountered some sort of slowness in ManageWiki response and that it should work properly now, but do report to Phabricator if other changes take say, more than 10 minutes going forward. --Raidarr (talk) 10:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Crappy GachaTubers Wiki is using moderation again despite not a lot of admin activity
Crappy GachaTubers Wiki is using moderation again despite the fact that the only administrator, FranciscoLol2009, is not very active; although they did edit two days ago, that was their first time editing in a month and 16 days (I think that's it at least, I'm not the best at that kind of math). They are mainly semi-active, therefore it is unlikely that moderation could work easily. FatBurn0000 (sandbox | CentralAuth) 00:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * It's a strange wiki, frankly. It has a variety of discretionary rules and Moderation seems to be his thing even if indeed the formula might not be sustainable. But I'd encourage contacting him to see what's up, since it's not preferable to intervene locally unless truly necessary with a clear global policy concern, and he has demonstrated the bare minimum activity to be sure he is around enough to exercise agency and make decisions. --Raidarr (talk) 15:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * FatBurn0000, I've taken a second look at this wiki again, and am not impressed with what I am seeing. What I am seeing is most of the pages are wholly negative attack pages meant to denigrate a particular YouTube personality. Compounding the problem, there are concerns with potentially libelous information about some of the said personalities. As well, the user's re-enabling of the Moderation extension without consensus to do so is also a bit problematic. Consensus is not required to enable extensions, but given several users have expressed problems with the extension, it should have it in this case. Moreover, former wiki creator SA 13 Bro expressed reservations about this wiki here, and yet former wiki creator Amanda Catherine approved it unquestionably without explanation as to being satisfied it would not be a Content Policy violation. As such, given the local bureaucrat's apparent unwillingness to make the necessary corrections, I'm favouring deletion of this wiki at this point. Dmehus (talk) 20:19, 13 March 2022 (UTC)