Meta:Requests for permissions/Archive 2

TriX (Sysop)
User: TriX ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Sysop Reason: I want to help all the admin and staff or new guest in here if need or more and also to serve if a page for delete or protect template if need from guest.Thank you TriX (talk) 07:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

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I think that you are doing a really great job as a wiki creator, keep up the good work! I really don't see a reason for sysop, as we are already more than enough, and there isn't much administrative work to be done on Meta. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 08:33, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak  Again, TriX is very good at wiki creation.  But I don't know what help we need as a sysop right now.  You can help new guests now, and users can see your wikicreator right and know that you are a site volunteer. Marking pages for deletion is good for now.  Maybe ask again in 3 to 6 months?  --Vorticity (talk) 23:03, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay :) TriX (talk) 23:53, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
 * for the same reasons as above. Great wiki creator but not really a demonstrable need to have the right. (Not that I'm against the user having the rights, if a need is displayed). -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:00, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hontsukuro
User: Hontsukuro ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Reason:

Additional comments:

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below. Thank you for creating the wiki. It seems that the admin, hontsukuro, does not have sufficient permissions (e.g., can't register users). I'd appreciate it if you could rectify that, please. Thanks.
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XOF (Wiki Creator)
User: XOF ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: It takes over a day in many cases for wikis to be created. We need creation to be automatic like at Wikia or we desperately need more creators. There's no reason for it to be more then an hour. If it takes too long we're going to lose users to shittier wiki hosts.

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 * Have you read the wiki creators guide? Also I agree that we need more volunteers (wiki creators and otherwise) but unfortunately I'm not sure the 'less than an hour' thing will happen no matter how many volunteers we have unless there's people to handle every timezone. 100 people on at the same time won't help when someone requests a wiki after they go to bed. I think 24 hours should be the max time but I'm not hoping for under an hour. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:41, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I took a look at it. An hour response time at any hour is going to be a very hard goal to meet but we should work toward it.  It would be much better if we made wiki creation automatic because the delay could mean that someone gets their wiki created with a competitor first before they get it approved here.  XOF (talk) 19:19, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * - yes we need more wiki creators. Getting creation time below 1h will be hard, but we can make it easier. I'll work on a bot that automatically feeds wiki requests to IRC. Southparkfan (talk) 12:37, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * @Southparkfan, the MirahezeRC bot already feeds wiki requests to IRC. However, if those could be sent to another channel specifically for wiki requests, #miraheze-wikirequests for example, then that would be very helpful to the wiki creators. -- Corey (talk) 07:14, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Sammy (Steward)
User: Sammy ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Steward Reason: I think the time has come where I request Steward rights across Miraheze. I'm currently a Wiki creator who has far too much experience to not request this right. I've been on Wikia and Wikimedia beforehand, and I know I have the technical experience and time to maintain Miraheze.. now, there's always the question of whether Miraheze needs more Stewards at this early stage, so I'm going to be quite frank: one more wouldn't hurt. I've worked with John beforehand on WMT on IRC, I've done countervandalism for Wikia in the past, and my technical experience with MediaWiki is good enough to be requesting stewardship. I want to see Miraheze grow and prosper; and I think I can do that better as a steward.

Additional comments: Please do not hesitate to ask me any questions below; I'd be happy to answer any questions pertaining to this request. :)

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 * As I elaborated on IRC yesterday. We don't need new stewards at all, only people that help with configuration requests and wiki requests. Southparkfan (talk) 12:37, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I withdraw my request for steward at this time, per the talk on IRC. Sammy (talk) 18:18, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Corey (Wiki Creator)
User: Corey ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: Miraheze definitely needs more Wiki Creators in order to get the request time down. It should not take more than a couple hours for a request to be approved or denied.

Additional comments: I've read and understand the Wiki creators guide. :)

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 * I remember Corey from Wikia, he's trustworthy and helpful enough that he can do good use with this right. Sammy (talk) 02:20, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Aira (wiki-creator and admin for local settings)
User: Aira ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: wiki-creator and sysop? for local settings Reason: to help my wiki hoster

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Aira aka user:Wisdomstudent

i can type and be diplomatic, im sure i can manage your phabricator system with some intro to internal structures, and therefore respond to certain tickets.

as well i familiarized myself with your mw-config/local settings.php,

i am confident i could manage most of that too, and if im unsure, id rather do nothing than screwing it. that too might free some time for others to do the sudo thingy.

i wouldnt wanna talk to your servers though, im not the sudo-guy, thats over my head. but adding a line or two to activate a preinstalled extension or add a namespace or so shouldnt be a problem.

i think i could commit like 30-60 mins every 2-3 days, likely more, depending on my other projects, at least for some months until maybe others pour in to help you out.

i saw that revi had to leave, and it seems you could use some help, so ill do what is in my capacity if you feel like welcoming it.

for backgrounds, i did some small network stuff and had to administer several machines in a studio for audio-applications across a local net; and im kickin my own networks and machine's butt till they beg for mercy and do as i say since about 15 years :p

that even included some command line stuff, but as i said, im not a server-enchanter.

since i just read a bit about orain, i could see reasons why you rather be careful, but im not a teenager anymore and i have an idea about the responsibility behind the rights im requesting here, and i know that things we do are coming back to us in one way or another,

so better think twice before you F* up someone or something intentionally. for thats always a boomerang, and usually you dont see it coming back at you :p

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 * Comments/Questions
 * Little to no understanding of what MetaWiki admin entails. As for wiki creator, please familiarize yourself with the guide for wiki creators first. Sammy (talk) 00:17, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * We are not in need of sysops on Meta currently. As Sammy said please read the wiki creator guide for wiki creator. Reception123  (talk) ( contribs  ) 03:28, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Wisdomstudent said in chat today: "i know nothing as of now. in case you decide to agree, ill ask 1000 questions and learn everything :P" While this is basically how paid employment works, where you learn after you get the job, this kind of attitude is antithetical to open source software projects.  Rights are earned by achievement, prestige is earned by understanding.  The asking of questions is good, but they just should have been asked before asking for rights you don't understand.
 * Keep in mind this is not a permanent rejection, it just applies to our current situation. If you want to help out, learn more and do things to help.  Clean metawiki up, add resources, fix bugs on Phabricator with pull requests to Github.  None of this requires special access. --Vorticity (talk) 04:51, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * coolz, so my time stays mine to spend where i feel need. this may or may not include the above activities, but no commitment is made. if im bored, i might do something, if not then not. since none of the tasks i described to be able to do require any special rights, there was likely no need for this query anyway, which wasnt clear in the beginning, but i was directed to do this by one of yours.

now to your acceptance or your rejection: it may be adviseable to rather attempt to understand what someone really tries to express, no matter how they word it - like "i know nothing as of now", "admin" or even "sysop", of which none is really applicable as i have explained above clearly in what i know, can and cannot do. you might wanna go from there and find a word that fits your bill instead of nailing someone on some term or "what they have said" (according to your personal definition of it) if it doesnt foster the understanding between the participants of a convo. btw, even several times asking in chat didnt give me an answer with the "correct term" for this other than "volunteer", so ask yourself, how would you have titled it?

thank you for keeping me free of the miraheze biz, and guiding me off any kind of open source helping out or whatever to focus my time and energy where it can be used more sensemaking. i am very happy to stay a simple user of M instead of dedicating time for contributing to it. so once more, thank you for your services. ~aira

ps, someone pls close this for the decision is made. thank you. ~a.

Jbertscher
User: Jbertscher ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: mindladle.miraheze.org Reason: The wiki was recently created but I suspect that I was not given founder privileges because I cannot edit it.

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TriX (Administrator)
User: TriX ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Administrator Reason: for delete if I make mistake for creating user talk or more. Thanks you for read mypermissions. TriX (talk) 02:02, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

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 * for now. Jianhui67 (talk) 09:31, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * After seeing this mentioned on User talk:John I guess I'll comment. I'm going to go ahead and weakly oppose this not because I have anything against User:TriX but because I believe there is no need. The user has indicated they want the rights to delete user talk pages, or "more thanks for attention". -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:52, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * In regards to the first thing, User:Reception123 has mistakenly put wiki created on user talk pages where they weren't created. Just fix it / clarify it was intended for another user, you shouldn't have to delete their talk page. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:52, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * In regards to the second thing, I have no idea what "more thanks for attentions" is, or what it has to do with being a Meta sysop. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:52, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Mkay thanks for your vote.
 * I try to help via git or phab but I don't have a pc or laptop, so I help in here. You can check my account and see, I'm use a phone so only in here, maybe I go to git via handphone, it can myphone has effect hot. so I not use only if I need setting in mywiki. I have intentions good for miraheze. Yeah but ya :) Okay thanks I'm want to use irc always but I have a problem with handphone connection. Only time can solve it. TriX (talk) 04:43, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've read the edit and reply. I still think the only reason is to delete user talk pages and I don't think it's needed. Metawiki sysop had nothing to do with phabricator or git. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 13:52, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I like to help via sysop. :)TriX (talk) 13:06, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose Mostly what NDKilla said. Your help as a wikicreator is very much appreciated but I see no need for sysop. Vandalism is not frequent here, and when it is, there is generally someone to revert. I think that we are already enough administrators on Meta, and really don't see a need for more at the current time. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 14:14, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

MacFan4000 (Wiki Creator)

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * I have granted the rights as per the informal policy of 'sysadmins choose'. Lately do ther have been 24 hour backlogs, while not an issue, is not the best. No extra privileges are granted here besides creating wikis and few editings of wiki config privileges. These aren't dangerous and can't be easily abused. The ease of granting also means the ease of revoking and any sysadmin is free to do so in their own opinion. Let's not turn the special thing we have into a bureacratic mess for no reason. John (talk) 15:15, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

User: MacFan4000 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: We are low on Wiki Creators and I would be happy to help out with that.

Additional comments: There appears to only be one active Wiki Creator at the moment.

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 * This user is recently registered and already has a history of harmful editing that negatively impacts Miraheze users. With that in mind, his edit pattern raises some red flags about whether an authority position will be used in good faith.  XOF (talk) 01:18, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * But that's only one edit. Also it's called a good faith edit. MacFan4000 (talk) 01:22, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It might have been in good faith but it would have had a negative impact on future visitors who might want to use an alternative or shorter domain. XOF (talk) 02:07, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * For the record, wiki creators shouldn't be viewed as people in a position of authority. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 01:45, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Neither are administrators but they get viewed that way by most users. Nonetheless I agree with you.  XOF (talk)
 * I mean no offense but I'm going to completely disagree with that. Administrators IMO are in a position of authority.. they don't represent Miraheze, and they aren't Miraheze-wide, but they can enforce policies and such forcefully by blocking users. The only 'control' wiki creator's have is whether or not they create a wiki (approve/declining a request, not ignoring one), but this should be done in accordance with policies and wc's not following it will be removed. Administrator's however are expected to have a lot more judgement and stuff than wiki creators. Anyways moot point because this isn't an RfA, but I do kind of agree that people probably look at wiki creators as people in authority. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 03:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you good job at phabricator :)TriX (talk) 03:03, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * As mentioned above by NDKilla, this isn't a vote, but I would say that we have enough wiki creators at the time, and personally I see no need to grant wiki creator at this point. Should there be more requests, or maybe we see that the creation time is slower, we could consider this but for now I personally see no need. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 15:08, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section

XOF (Wiki Creator)
User: XOF ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki Creator Reason: I had it before until I was inactive.

Additional comments: I'll be available on a daily basis to do creations.

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 * Granted -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 01:15, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

MacFan4000 (Autopatrolled)
User: MacFan4000 ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Autopatrolled Reason: I belive that I don't need to have my edits manually patrolled.

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 * Comments/Questions
 * I agree with you.? TriX (talk) 05:55, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Void (Wiki creator)
User: Void ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: Wiki creator Reason: I often find myself on with a number of unanswered creation requests, and I want to help out.

Additional comments: I'm on here enough that I am familiar with all I need to know. -- Void  Whispers 02:50, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

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 * We have plenty of wiki creators. MacFan4000 (talk) 12:41, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Many wiki creators is good but, if you only want to know system wc, it not look's good. TriX (talk) 04:28, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * as the only non-sysadmin Consul on publictestwiki.com and a pretty helpful guy over there. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:19, 25 November 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ since these rights are granted at the discretion of any sysadmin. Unlike the above comment, I feel we can't really have to many wiki creators. If there's ever a backlog, you could use more IMO. Anyways, please take a look at Special:CreateWiki the interface, and ask any questions you may have. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 16:19, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Please also check out the Wiki creators guide. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 20:03, 25 November 2016 (UTC)