Requests for Comment/Prohibit hate-based wikis

There is an issue with a Scratch Reception Wiki called "Bad Scratch Wiki", and this wiki is trying to get us blocked on Scratch even more. I got proof that Marius, a Scratch Team member said that there's a recreation of CSW called this: https://badscratch.miraheze.org So we have to make a proposal to change the content policy in order to solve the issue. CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 11:21, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Proposal

 * 1) A ban on new wikis relating to scratch.mit.edu is imposed that will expire unless extended 45 days after the close of this discussion to allow the situation to settle
 * 2) "Wikis with the sole purpose to spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumors against a person or group of people" are banned indefinitely.
 * 3) *This does not apply to wikis that provide satire or comedy appropriately marked as such across a range of topics.
 * 4) *A wiki that provides reviews that are mostly negative but has any positive content is not affected.
 * 5) *Wikis that provide clear, proper, and justification that could reasonably be understood for negative content even if the wiki only provides negative content is not prohibited.
 * 6) *A wiki full of statements like "x is a d#######" or "x only does crappy stuff" would be.

Support

 * 1) This will help fix the issue with Scratch wikis. CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 11:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)   ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) . Protects Miraheze from involvement in libelous wikis.   13:20 27-Jun-2020

Comments during the review period

 * ''Moved here from Community noticeboard

Hello,

Following the recent issues with the scratch reception wikis, I'd like to propose a change to the content policy to prevent future issues.


 * 1) A ban on new wikis relating to scratch.mit.edu is imposed that will expire unless extended 45 days after the close of this discussion to allow the situation to settle
 * 2) "Wikis with the sole purpose to spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against a person or group of people" are banned indefinitely.
 * This does not apply to wikis that provide satire or comedy appropriately marked as such across a range of topics.
 * A wiki that provide reviews which are mostly negative but has any positive content is not affected.
 * Wikis that provide clear, proper and justification that could reasonably be understood for negative content even if the wiki only provides negative content is not prohibited.
 * A wiki full of statements like "x is dickhead" or "x only does crappy stuff" would be.

Thanks,
 * ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - 09:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

 * This is not the ballot but a preliminary discussion. The ballot is above.

As this rule is a basis for rejecting wikis, I too would like to see a full RfC; for one thing, it is something to point to, rather than, "It's somewhere in the CN archives." 14:59 16-Jun-2020
 * 1)  Scratch wikis need a cooldown and wikis with unsubstantiated negative content isn't something we want to host.  ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  09:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  I believe the RfC purpose does exist for a reason and we can't subvert it with a simple Community noticeboard vote instead. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 09:13, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) If you remember a few months ago I wanted to start an Request for comment about this but Stewards said they would look. I agree that these wikis should not be here, but to change the policy is an RfC not needed? I'm still learning the rules here. DeeM28 (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * We've used CN posts for Content Policy changes before. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  11:41, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) The point is to keep Miraheze from being a vehicle for on-line libel. The exceptions are carefully thought out.  I would not like a rule that tells a restaurant review site, "You are required to carry one positive review!" as I know some joints that would not merit any; but this exception simply says that the wiki cannot simply be set up to slam every restaurant.  Likewise, I am glad satire is excepted; negativity or "gallows humor" is one frequent strategy.  "Unsubstantiated" is a good word (perhaps "libelous" is a better one).  That you simply told the truth is a full defense against a charge of libel.
 * 1)  I believe this is clear and righteous. WickyHoney (talk) 07:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 2)  This will help fix the issue with Scratch wikis. CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 13:06, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) I've now considering an RFC for the content policy change https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Change_to_content_policy#Change_to_content_policy CircleyDoesExtracter (talk) 11:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)