User talk:Dmehus

Template documentation
Hi Doug, I have implemented a template documentation in the publictestwiki for demonstration purposes. To these two templates I have added the documention Template:RfP/boilerplate Template:Draft-section so you can see how it looks like. If you think this is useful I (or anyone else) can copy the template and the associated module to other Miraheze wikis. I have translated the text that is displayed in the template pages but not all the comments in the module, a native speaker may improve the translation. Before I spend a lot of time for translating the German comments to English I will make sure that this feature is wanted on Miraheze, if not I will save my time ;-) Lily (Manuela) (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 17:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Adoption
What are the requirements for adopting a wiki? Musicismylife (talk) 06:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)


 * There's no set requirements, other than the wiki (a) must be closed per Dormancy Policy and (b) generally should not be manually-closed (some exceptions apply here). From there, Stewards will assess quantitatively and qualitatively your contribution(s) over the following week(s), typically, to assess your commitment level to the wiki. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:54, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Yo:
How have you been all day today? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:04, 9 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Fine, thanks. Dmehus (talk) 03:51, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Please help me
How do I cancel my username change request? Musicismylife (talk) 01:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Musicismylife ✅ per your request. Additionally, I'd note you were just globally renamed a month ago here. Global renames are intended to be done seldomly. As a recommended best practice, it's usually good to leave your username the same for at least 12, and ideally 24, months, absent very compelling reasons to change sooner. For what it's worth, I like your current username. :) Dmehus (talk) 18:07, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

You told me to remind you this:
Yes, as you can see from the header section, you told me to remind you to look into Commagate and Cmon, as there is a lot of behavioral evidence from this particular blog post warning other users about Larryding, thus these comments from both of them, and even an additional comment from an additional sock account. Now tell me, doesn't this seem to be over the top suspicious for them to come to that blog post using socks to deny or argue in that same post? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:37, 11 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I don't know that the user is Larryding, but there does seem to be a connection to Commagate and Cmon. Dmehus (talk) 22:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * But please do tell me what you find when you're done investigating. :) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Wait, so Bakerbeat5 had no relation at all? That's strange. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not even sure you're correct in thinking that the users I ✅ are Larryding. I think they are just run of the mill disruptive sockpuppets. Dmehus (talk) 22:59, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * So I'm going to guess that Bakerbeat5 isn't related to Commagate and Cmon, right? If not, then perhaps a different master? But then again, I thank you for locking those 2 along with any additional accounts they had floating around. :) DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That's correct. It's possible the user is a sockpuppet of a different master, but unless you can provide me with compelling diffs showing a likely target, we won't know that. :) Dmehus (talk) 23:02, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile, I've noticed 2 spambots that came to my  within 2 weeks of each other, like LoganIaf63045 and ESSElinor3002, along with multiple series of spambots that I reported on the Stewards' Noticeboard previously. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:27, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Found a potential target that could very well be connected to Bakerbeat5: Lastflash. Lastflash has asked DeciduousWater534 in such a strange fashion. Not to mention this user, Bakerbeat5 has replied on Commagate's talk page saying something similar, asking people to put random characters on the wiki. Don't you think that sounds familiar? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Wiki request
Can you help me create x-men of steel.miraheze.org? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 22:50, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Warning fake accounts
Can you explain what these accounts are created every day, with random person names on Podpedia (none of the accounts edit, they are just created for nothing) This is not the own site owner creating fake accounts, as the same happens on the AllTheTropes wiki (because it of having many users). And this also happened on a wiki I use. The difference is that they always put "your real name" as seen on their user pages with the SocialProfile extension. YellowFrogger (talk) 02:07, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you mean by "fake accounts," but they look like either spam only accounts or spam only accounts in incubation that have yet to edit or otherwise attempt to spam. They'll likely be caught up in regular Steward-conducted spambot sweeps, so not to worry. That being said, perhaps that wiki could be suggested to disable their new user welcome extension that greets new users including spam only accounts. Dmehus (talk) 02:12, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You can safely ignore those, they're just spambots, they're everywhere. Just check that wikis Abuse Log, you'll see a ton of those bots have tried to create spam pages on the wikis and have failed because the Abuse Filter caught them. Until Miraheze can implement ReCaptcha v3, there's not much one can do. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 02:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Comments
How do I add comments to a wiki? Musicismylife (talk) 21:08, 13 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure you can, honestly. Iron Sword 23 (talk) 21:37, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * If you mean adding the plugin as the local administrator, there are several options in your ManageWiki settings. A wiki you're not admin on depends on the local situation, using the local plugin or the talk page. It's unclear exactly what you mean and I imagine Dmehus would think similarly, so I wonder which sense you mean, or if there's a wiki where they aren't working properly for you. --Raidarr (talk) 21:44, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Unfairly blocked from Qualitipedia again
I have been unfairly blocked from Qualitipedia again. I posted a message on Steward's noticeboard but since it has been ignored, basically I was banned for making a suggestion to add proposals on Qualitipedia, since I know that you said you wanted consensus on Qualitipedia rather than having all decisions made by a small group of bureaucrats. However, they rejected it and I ended up falsely blocked for "causing drama" when that is not true. And to add insult to injury, MarioMario456 and DuchessTheSponge made a personal attack blog against me on Crappy Games Wiki which is filled with false information and old drama which has since been resolved. Also, the comments section of the blog is filled with personal attacks against me, with people calling me names. They even accused me of being an “anti-profanity SJW” when I am not an SJW and I am fine with profanity, within reason of course. Also they said I wasn't there to contribute which is completely false since I did not go to Qualitipedia to cause drama, I did not want to cause drama, I simply wanted to contribute. The main problem is that I was blocked on the show wikis, which are the wikis I usually contributed to. So I think it is safe to say that MarioMario456 and DuchessTheSponge should receive a warning for abuse of power, I should be unblocked on EVERY wiki I am blocked on, and the personal attack blog should be deleted, since this has gone far beyond a reasonable discussion with Mario and Duchess. Furthermore, Mario and Duchess both act like they own the wiki when like you said, nobody owns the wiki. They have blocked me for things that are not even against the policy listed on the main page of every Qualitipedia wiki, and personal attack blogs are against the rules on Crappy Games Wiki. This needs to be resolved soon because I need to clear my name and get back to peacefully editing. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 16:26, 16 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Please help me, you are my only hope. I am being defamed, blocked, harassed, and attacked for no reason. Mario and Duchess are continuing to paint me as this force of evil. You are the only person who can help me clear my name. I need to be back on the reception wikis but I unfortunately cannot contribute to a place where everyone hates me and two of the admins are out to get me. And I can't even explain my innocence since Duchess and Mario are everywhere and I am just blocked anyway. The blog post I mentioned is spreading lies about me. Please listen to me and trust me, you are my only hope. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

So, you're back eh?
I've been concerned where you've been for the past few days, but it's good to see you once again. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Welcome back Dmehus. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 17:54, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course he's back, but he still has some things to take care of on the Stewards' Noticeboard, like a couple of CheckUser requests to respond to with either a decline or with action taken. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 21:30, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Now that you're back...
Is it time to give MarioMario456 his rights on the Horrible Music and Songs Wiki? I mean, the election has turned out successful and the wiki has became a mess so I felt like it's time for you to promote him. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 19:05, 18 July 2021 (UTC)


 * It turns out even with moderation enabled, it's still turning into a serious mess. DuchessTheSponge (talk) 19:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Good evening
Can you help me with a wiki request? Iron Sword 23 (talk) 22:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Regarding.... ugh.
So I saw you archive my discussion on SN, and I also read your note. The reason this requires Stewards' attention is because I'm banned from QP and I figured you guys are the only ones who can get to QP's moderation team. Because you guys are in charge of Miraheze, and control everything on it (not exactly, but you get the point). I need your guys' help. You may as well be the only ones who can enforce their actions being wrong.

I want the community to understand my criticisms and just listen and understand my viewpoints. I don't want them throwing 'em away or discarding them without even setting up a proper discussion or even explaining why — all my past attempts, it seemed like they didn't want to be criticized, as if criticism towards the wikis hurts their feelings, as if they were upset because I was criticizing them. And I certainly don't want people to live in ignorance, regarding things such as the quality of the Lion King sequels.

I was wrong for creating the Cuties threat in the first place, yes. I was wrong for being immature, yes. But all I wanted for them is to listen to me, and see where I'm coming from. FreezingTNT (talk) 23:44, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's worth reiterating that the Stewards are incredibly reluctant to enter and overhaul local decision making, especially when a local system is already in the process of overhauling itself. As critical as I have been, MarioMario456 in particular has taken steps to address some root problems, which complicates a blanket narrative against their willingness to improve (though, I can't say the same attitude is shared with every admin there, one of which is very offended by criticism and still in power). For my part on Discord mainly, I have attempted to stave off narrow 'he wanted to put Cuties on the good wiki!' with a broader look at what you were trying to do, in spite of it being poorly done. At this point, it's unlikely the Stewards will simply break in and act on your behalf.


 * As Dmehus mentioned however, the ideal here is probably to splinter to an independent project. That might have been the New Reception Wiki, but as I have noted it is administratively dominated by the QP leadership figures. So, a new new wiki would be necessary, and there *is* a niche for a qualitative wiki. If you want to collaborate with others in realizing that, it can't hurt to try if you really find the QP wikis irredeemable. For my part I think they have a chance. I could dust off a languishing side project and turn it into a meta discussion type wiki with full independence, so it can be used to iron out these details of an ideal format and keep the drama and the scenario off Meta unless it is strictly required. And for the record, I imagine a blog post on the relevant wiki would suffice in giving a full impression of the Lion King sequels. The article can perhaps document strict reception, and reviews can be presented alongside it so people can get an audience reaction, and then see in-depth input for themselves. Frankly I don't think it's the biggest problem in the world for people to understand why a particular set of Sequels is bad. If it is necessary, there are options. So let us consider them, but at this juncture, probably on a more local talk page (yours or mine) until/unless the alternative wiki is put to use to have this conversation natively. --Raidarr (talk) 11:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

I'll summon the QP mods (,, and ) right here, and see what they think (in regards to all of this).

And in response to some of your pointers...

"For my part on Discord mainly, I have attempted to stave off narrow 'he wanted to put Cuties on the good wiki!' with a broader look at what you were trying to do, in spite of it being poorly done." Where can I find that? I just joined the QP Discord and can't find it myself. And what was the response from the others?

Regarding creating a new wiki from scratch. In my pile of criticisms in the other thread, I pointed out that there'd be backlash from defenders/fanboys of various media such as The Last Jedi and that even if they do explain why that specific article is wrong then the mods won't take those specific bad qualities down because it's apparently what the general public believes regardless of minority opinions. Alongside my other criticisms here. The reason I also chose QP as the place to lay down my criticisms for the Lion King sequels is because it has a huge (well, not that huge) community, especially for a series of wikis that point out the good and the bad, and a decent amount of people do know about the existence of QP, so I figured more people would acknowledge my perspective if I put my criticisms onto something a decent amount of people had a connection to and history with — it's not like I'm gonna magically create a super-popular YouTube channel and create review videos for the films and magically get all 7 billion people on the planet to watch them within a single hour, which would be literally and logically impossible and time-consuming!

"And for the record, I imagine a blog post on the relevant wiki would suffice in giving a full impression of the Lion King sequels. The article can perhaps document strict reception, and reviews can be presented alongside it so people can get an audience reaction, and then see in-depth input for themselves." ??? (As in, I don't really get what you're trying to say regarding specific parts...) When they were originally on the Awful Movies Wiki, before they were deleted and put onto the Greatest Movies Wiki, I believe (I'm not sure if this is accurate) the articles did list the receptions (both movies were loved by audiences), and the Simba's Pride article listed videos from those criticizing the movie. The bad qualities for both articles mostly listed criticisms I've come across on the Internet myself that I generally agreed with; they are indeed opinions (the existence of plot holes, contrivances and other things based on what actually happens in the movie aren't, however; I'm specifically talking about whether it is a good or bad thing), but you can argue the same about any other review in existence, and that's literally the point — while art is subjective, there's things or annoyances (in terms of, for example, the characters' behavior such as being annoying or irritating) or imperfections that would make it more likely people would criticize the work in particular (I mention something similar in the original thread).

FreezingTNT (talk) 19:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC)


 * So in regards to expanding the topic I'll make a suggestion; if we are to expand this in a full and largely locally relevant discussion, then I would consider the second part of my point in reccomending a non-meta outlet to resolve the issues and leaving Steward intervention to a 'strictly necessary' basis - even if it is an independently controlled wiki, be it my alpha project or some other, or even a discord area with far less chance for moderation kneejerks. It may not be on QP proper, but 'it' should be a related place to iron out a proper and actionable case. If it stays on Meta and especially on a Steward's talk page, then the contents should be very topical; be they the concerns with reasonable speech/consensus having a chance to form, or potential content policy violations, or something with noted steward intervention, ie, Void's comment here. This is why I suggest an alternative platform, even if QP itself may not want to humor the conversation (although if it doesn't, that may be something for global staff to take a look at). As for overall attitude (ie, overall receptions), even if there are plot holes and poor elements to a written story, it seems to be QP's desire to put article locations into a 'sum' of three pillars - unprofessional but audienced reviewers, critical reviews and user reviews, with rare exception if say, two out of three overwhelm the one (as in the cause with Cuties) and vaguely in that order unless an exception is necessary. It's not a well documented policy, but that is how they address it; if this is poor, should be changed, etc is something that should be a local discussion, or at least in a suitably close area. For the record, if you want to tell the world what you think of a particular thing and why out of audience, it seems like a dedicated blog (and even going past Miraheze since Reception Wikis are not the best you can do if you're particularly good) would be the avenue to push for. And also for the record, I can guarantee most of the QP mods are unlikely to engage with this because just my own engagement has made this too long already, and in this case I wouldn't blame them for it. In word count, issues about QP already dominate this page alone and the preference is generally to move forward. --Raidarr (talk) 21:29, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

become staff
Hi, how can I become miraheze staff? thanks.--Msnhinet8 (talk) 06:46, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , see this page. ~ Mazzaz (talk) 07:57, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ok, thanks. Msnhinet8 (talk) 08:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It's important to remember that Miraheze Limited doesn't really have any staff. It has volunteer positions which are either appointed by the board, elected or otherwise selected by the community, or appointed by members of the technical team who are ultimately selected by the board-appointed Director of Site Reliability Engineering. Over the years, the term "staff" has been used to describe members of the technical team, but it's woefully inadequate as members of the technical team's responsibilities are limited in scope and tend to be more specialized and technical in nature. With the addition of the board-appointed Trust and Safety team, it's even less accurate. Dmehus (talk) 18:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)