Stewards' noticeboard/Archive 4

20 July 2016 - 18 January 2017

Account rename 2
Hi, I've been here for a while, and decided that it's kind of weird to be known by one name on IRC and GitHub and everywhere else, but not here on Miraheze. Can you global rename my account from User:Vorticity to User:Labster? Thanks. --Vorticity (talk) 20:52, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ :D Southparkfan (talk) 21:01, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

My account, QuestionableSanity, has been IP blocked on the All The Tropes wiki.
Can you please unblock my account? I know my password, but it doesn't let me log in. Who should I send my account password to for verification? -- 2601:246:4603:4379:34b6:699b:e06b:84e2
 * Your IP was blocked on All The Tropes because you were impersonating an All The Tropes administrator. As you can see here, I am not sure either if you are the real QuestionableSanity, but it's GethN7's call. Southparkfan (talk) 09:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I am an administrator on ATT. I have already contacted Geth on his blog (see the comments section of the top post of http://gethn7.blogspot.com/), and he claims that it wasn't him, and that I should contact you.
 * Hi, since your blocked only on AllTheTrope wiki, please liase with Geth to have the block undone. We have not acted on the matter, it is my understanding you don't have an account already too so there's nothing to recover and nothing to compare with so unfortunately we can't do anything here. More so as its local only, we prefer not to act on the matter. Thanks, John (talk) 18:19, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Please remove closure/ dormancy notice

 * Policy: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy
 * Wiki: https://gen.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

Rationale: Previously I was using GitHub - https://github.com/genesisdotre/wiki/wiki - now I switched to Miraheze... The wiki is a collection of thoughts, ideas and I put a lot of effort into collecting them over time. Recently I've been preoccupied with life, universe and everything. Would be nice to remove the notice - and I'll carry on contributing - thank you! 31.51.90.226 11:56, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Editing the wiki is enough to 'restart the timer' for the Dormancy Policy. The notice is placed by a script, and will not be added again until that time limit is passed again. However, this script does not remove the site notice just because a wiki is active (or it could remove local staff's legitimate notices). Just remove the notice yourself while logged in to an administrator account and that's all you have to do. Edit the page to be blank or a single hyphen ("-"), but you shouldn't delete the page. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 13:13, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You may simply delete your wiki's  and that should be sufficient for red card. &mdash;  revi  11:07, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Usually these discussions are archived en-masse at a later point. Just because something is done doesn't mean you should remove it from the page, especially not if you aren't adding it to an archive page. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:56, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Wiki requested but not put into queue
Hello,

I am trying to create a wiki for my project "DLA to stars". I've filled the request form twice but when I click on submit I don't get any message window saying "request submitted" or similar, and the request can't seem to get into the wiki requests queue. Is there an error or is it just me not doing it properly?

Thanks Iprafols (talk) 07:46, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Please use Special:RequestWiki and fill in all the information. Take a screenshot or copy/paste the message you get after clicking submit. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 07:53, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: I have tried it and the request form works for me, so it isn't an error from Miraheze. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 08:05, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Make sure you don't use a hyphen in your subdomain name otherwise it won't work. This is what happened to me when I first tried it and all I got was a blank page. I tried it again without the hyphen and it worked straight away and the tracking page appeared. Maybe there should be a note added to the request a wiki page stating not to use hyphens in the subdomain name.  Borderman   talk 09:33, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * We did not know about this error. We will try to fix it ASAP. As Boderman said, please request a wiki with no hyphens in it. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 09:50, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The issue has been fixed. Please note that wikis with hyphens cannot be created! Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 10:08, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I successfully managed to request de wiki after deleting the '-'s. Basically I changed the domain name from "DLA-to-stars" to "dlatostars". Thanks! Iprafols

Delete my wiki
Hi, guys. Unfortunately, I need to ask you to remove my wiki. We realize, that we can't get our goals without SMW extension. We want to thank you for all your help for our project and say goodbye.
 * Acknowledged. We're sorry we couldn't meet your needed for hosting. John (talk) 14:29, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Problem including math formula to wiki
Hello,

I have encountered some errors when trying to add a math formula to a wiki page. Whenever I try to parse a mathematical formula I get the error "Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex and dvipng (or dvips + gs + convert)):"

Reading through the archived questions ( Archive 2, question 43 ) I found that someone else already had the problem but it was fixed. Does this have to be fixed on a case-by-case wiki? If so, how can I implement the patch to my wiki page?

Thanks a lot, Iprafols (talk) 11:52, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, we fixed this (indeed), but this fix was removed. We've reapplied the fix now, so the problem should be fixed now. Southparkfan (talk) 13:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It's fixed, thanks! Iprafols (talk) 14:16, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Wiki request in review
I've requested a wiki to be created. Special:RequestWikiQueue/1521. I'm hoping that it can be approved soon as I would like to get started populating it with school notes. Is there anything more I need to provide to get approved? CodeAndStuff (talk) 08:09, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm really sorry your request was missed. I created it now and you can access it here. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 08:16, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Error report: Recurring problem maintaining session data
Hello!

When editing at ~09:00 ET, I get repeated "loss of session data" errors, to the point where I had to log out and log back in. However, when I try to log in after logging out, I get the error message "Login error Poser and Daz Free Resources uses cookies to log in users. You have cookies disabled. Please enable them and try again." (the wiki name varies depending on which wiki I am trying to edit), and continue to get that error until I delete my Miraheze cookies. I have cookies enabled.

This is the second day in a row that this has happened at about this time.
 * The sysadmins are aware of this error. It was caused by Tech:Misc2 (Redis) being down. The sysadmins are fixing it now. Sorry for the inconvenience Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 13:50, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Our server provider seems to have some issues, Redis (software we use for the MediaWiki logins) is now on another server, until this problem is fixed. Southparkfan (talk) 13:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. (And I see I forgot to sign the original error report - sorry about that.) --Robkelk (talk) 00:39, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Deletion Request
Please delete wiki hftqms. Unfortunately for IP reasons this needs to be hosted internally to our company now. No reflection on the service provided by you guys - this has been a great platform to test what we wanted to do and convince management that a wiki could work for us, massively reducing the amount of paper shuffling!

Shusheer (talk) 14:30, 27 July 2016 (UTC)


 * As deleting a wiki cannot be undone, and there are also multiple bureaucrats on your wiki: Can you please confirm here that you (on behalf of all local staff I guess) are requesting that the entire wiki be inaccessible and the contents of it destroyed forever, and that you understand this action cannot be undone? Would you like a backup of the wiki before it's deleted? -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:42, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Making wiki private
Hiya, thanks for creating my wiki so fast! However, I checked the box "private wiki" (or maybe I forgot, I dunno^^"). Could you please make my wiki, pokelore, private? Thank you! MisterFlix (talk) 17:03, 4 August 2016 (UTC) Pages are access-restricted, but annonymus users appear to still be able to create an account. MisterFlix (talk) 17:18, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, unfortunately we can't prevent users from registering on your wiki, as we have a shared usersystem on Miraheze. Even though they are registered, they still can't view any content on your wiki, except your Main Page, login pages, etc. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 17:23, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay, gotcha. Thanks for the quick response! MisterFlix (talk) 17:25, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Please re-open mindladle.miraheze.org
Hi,

Could someone please re-open my wiki, mindladle.miraheze.org? I went travelling shortly after requesting the wiki to be opened and now that I'm back I'd like to get back to it.

Thanks in advance!
 * ✅ Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 05:37, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Please remove login tag and let me improve the wiki
Dears, Doman: https://sirikot.miraheze.org Please remove the login tag so i will make the wiki more better and do improvement, thanks
 * Hello, by the "login tag" I assume you mean the button that says "Login". Unfortunately, we cannot remove that as all Miraheze logins are on one database, so not letting users login/create accounts would be impossible. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:41, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: I have also noticed that there is an inactivity warning (Mediawiki:Sitenotice) did you mean that? Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:43, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Delete wiki
I do not think my wiki is going to work as I want it, I am rethinking my aims and methods. Could you please delete yggdrasil.miraheze.org, I will be back once I sort out how to do what I want. Thanks RhianG (talk) 09:06, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please confirm that you want us delete your wiki as this action is irreversible and all your content will be gone once the wiki is deleted. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 11:40, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes I confirm this action, there is not much data there anyway and anything important is backed up.RhianG (talk) 07:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay. It should be deleted soon.

I just notice my wiki is still not deleted, could you please delete it soon.RhianG (talk) 12:51, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry about this. The wiki can no longer be accessed and it's database should be deleted shortly. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 03:49, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Poser and Daz Free Resources: Category updates not appearing in category lists
Changes to pages' categories and categories on new pages are not showing up in the Category lists on Poser and Daz Free Resources. (Example: https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Floral_Crown and https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:3DFineries, but all updates are not being made at least since yesterday.) Are category updates being cached and made in bulk? --Robkelk (talk) 14:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I just noticed this is also (not) happening on All The Tropes as well. --Robkelk (talk) 16:27, 7 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, this is a known issue and is being caused because our jobqueue had stopped running. We've restarted it and the issue should resolve itself shortly.
 * Cheers, -- Corey (talk) 16:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This is a known issue being tracked here. Unfortunately it's still on-going. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:45, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

All The Tropes: Category updates not appearing in category lists
Categories have stopped updating on All The Tropes again today. Presumably the same cause?

Thank you! -- Looney Toons (talk) 00:27, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I have noticed this and created a task here. I will see if it is the jobqueue and if I can restart. Reception123 (talk) ( contribs  ) 04:34, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I've restarted the jobs and it seems to be working on wikis now. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 04:53, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Once again, thank you. -- Looney Toons (talk) 12:24, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please note that the issue is not fixed yet, and we are still trying to figure it out. You can see the task for any updates on the issue. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 17:32, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I noticed the same problem three days ago on my own wiki after uploading some images with categories but the category was empty. The category has since been populated with the image pages but the article page has not yet appeared. It was the same yesterday using the ReplaceText extension, again with no effect - the replacement text hasn't appeared as yet. Jobs certainly seem to be a bit hit and miss and by the look of the task page it seems to be causing you guys some grief. Good luck with finding a solution. Borderman   talk 11:18, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know if this is related, but I noticed tonight that "What Links Here" results aren't updating even after links or even entire pages are deleted. -- Looney Toons (talk) 02:13, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think this is related. We are trying everything we can to fix this issue, and we hope it is fixed ASAP. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 04:12, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * On my wiki at ZGradeTennis, I see that it's updated the What Links Here, although not immediately, and it's updated one of my Wanted Categories but not the other. I don't know if this helps you find the solution quicker? PlatinumYellow (talk) 23:35, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Username change
Hey can someone change my username to "TheInternetEmo"?

thanx--SimplukarroTehGreat (talk) 07:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * A steward should take care of this soon Reception123  (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 08:01, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Cannot log in
My wiky has been crated on July 28th. A few days later I tried to log in (in Miraheze, but could not. I thought that I didn't remember the right password, so I asked for a new one, giving my mail address. Nothing came, so I tried with another mail address, for I thought that maybe I had used that second one. Still nothing came.

What can I do?

The name I choose in my account is Piero.caracciolo

My wiki is berlin - the address being : https://berlin.miraheze.org/wiki/Pagina_principale
 * We will try to fix this soon, I will address the error to the other sysadmins. We are very sorry for the inconvenience. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 14:53, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, I have tried this myself and the password reset email comes for me. Please try again (making sure that you put your username and email properly), and if it still doesn't work the only thing I can do is recommend that you make another account and ask for founder permissions here. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 14:58, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Request Founder Permissions
Following your peace of advice I created a new account and I request for it Founders Rights

Malombra (talk) 22:21, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Here is our last conversation:

Cancel former request
I finally could log in with my first logname (Piero.caracciolo) therefore I don't need any longer to have founder's rights under this logname (Malombra).

Thank you

Malombra (talk) 22:50, 10 August 2016 (UTC)


 * We've been having issues with our session-caching service lately, and that was probably the cause. Sorry for the inconvenience, and we're glad you can log in to your original account! -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:56, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Just reposting this since the other request was apparently ignored or something
Hi, i'd like to have my username changed to "TheInternetEmo". --SimplukarroTehGreat (talk) 17:33, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello. Your other request was not "completely ignored", most people here are on holidays now, we are experiencing bigger problems and no one had time to get to your request yet. Please be more patient, and someone should take care of this request soon. Reception123  (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 04:14, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh ok--SimplukarroTehGreat (talk) 05:02, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry about just now replying, as I had initially commented on this just not here. I planned on doing the rename, but, after certain experiences, have been hesitant to start a global rename while jobs have been acting up, since.. it can make things complicated. I've mainly been focusing on keeping our session cache alive (so users don't randomly get logged out) and getting the jobrunner working (status: not working). I believe John said he'd handle this when he gets back today. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 12:11, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. John (talk) 21:10, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Possible DB error on All The Tropes?
We have three pages on our New Pages Feed (https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed) that we cannot mark as reviewed. When we try, we get an error message in the following form:

An error occurred while marking the page as reviewed: [17d418565804d01bd8c883a6] Exception Caught: Cannot notify anonymous user: 73.33.196.34

The three pages so affected are:


 * No Matter What Happens, I Still Won't Become An Anime Character
 * No Matter What Happens, I Still Won't Become An Anime Character/Characters
 * Historical In-Joke/Laconic

all in the Main namespace.

In all three cases the user who created the page is not anonymous but a registered user, although one is blocked. The more technically inclined of ATT's admins believe it to be a database issue. Could someone please investigate it? Thank you. -- Looney Toons (talk) 02:11, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note that I've given myself local sysop to experiment. Not sure what rights are required, but the reviewer interface would not load for me as a normal user. I'll remove it when I'm done. Looking at the databases page and revision tables, it seems normal, I'm going to look at the exception logs. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 02:30, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note that this is probably 1) an echo issue 2) something related to our central auth (and possibly the very recent upgrade of the extension). I noticed when I tried to review the page I got the same error, but a different IP. Upon checking, the IP in the error message is my public IP, so I'm assuming the above is Looney's. Not sure what this is caused by... -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 02:47, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * As it so happens, it does turn out to be my (current) public IP. Thank you for looking into this. -- Looney Toons (talk) 12:13, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Please also note that for further techincal matters you can report them via Phabricator so we can track them better. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 16:38, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Noted! -- Looney Toons (talk) 23:21, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

No bureaucrat assignment?
I would like to grant only a few people to edit our wiki. But I seem not to be allowed to do this... Furthermore I would like to make parts of the wiki only visible to 'members'. Is this also possible? And how can we do this? RGDS, Arie (talk) 18:58, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You could use AccessControl but it's not guaranteed that it will keep it completely private, you can request this on Phabricator. For bureaucrat you do have the rights, you can see here. 03:34, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Delete a page
Could you please delete this page? https://ageofimperialism.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_officeholder I can't even reach the page to delete it normally and I just want to start it fresh.
 * I see there is an error when trying to access this page. I will look into this. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 04:56, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Deleted. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 05:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Why does this happen?
 * I am not sure. If the issue continue please tell me. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:35, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

MultimediaViewer extension not rendering images
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why the MultimediaViewer extension is not rendering any images on thelonsdalebattalion.co.uk. Clicking on an image opens the viewer, then the image sometimes appears for about 1 second then I get this message:
 * Sorry the file cannot be displayed. There seems to be a technical issue. You can retry or report the issue if it persists. Error: could not load image from https://static.miraheze.org/thelonsdalebattalionwiki/1/13/Colonel_The_Right_Hon._Earl_of_Lonsdale.jpg/800px-Colonel_The_Right_Hon._Earl_of_Lonsdale.jpg

It looks like it is trying to find a preview size of 800px (and 1280px for another image) that doesn't exist. Small images less than 800px also don't render. Retrying doesn't work and I have tried Safari (my main browser), Chrome and Firefox to no avail. I also tried the Vector skin as it is not my default skin and that didn't work either. Enabling it in preferences doesn't stay ticked. Maybe this has happened before. Any suggestions please? Thanks. Borderman  talk 13:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * That is not normal. This will be investigated. Next time please report on phabricator where it is now being tracked. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:39, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This was my fault as I forgot to set something in the settings. Should be fixed now. Still happening Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:54, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I will use phabricator next time. Something seems to be working. I have noticed some images now render but oddly there are still a lot that don't. Most, if not all, of the smaller images I uploaded today of 100kb or less don't render and I thought using parentheses might have been the cause as all of those images use them in their titles. But this is not the case. There doesn't seem to be any rule as to which ones render and which ones don't. Borderman   talk 17:06, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Update: It seems to work fine on mobile devices (iPad and iPhone) but as of now about one third of the images don't render on the desktop. Borderman   talk 15:06, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Update: All images are now rendering correctly. John said the issue was probably cache related. It took about 36 hours in total for all uploaded images to appear in the viewer. Borderman   talk 23:07, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Categories not updating again?
On Zgradetennis, the categories don't seem to be updating again, I was wondering if this is an ongoing issue related the one above, or if it's a new issue and when if it's likely to be resolved soon? PlatinumYellow (talk) 22:37, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Likewise on poserdazfreebies. Has jobqueue stopped again? (The phabricator ticket from the last time this happened is marked as Resolved.) --Robkelk (talk) 00:10, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably an issue with jobrunner. I've restarted it and the total number has of jobs has gone down, so if the issue hasn't resolved for you it should shortly. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 01:51, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Is there trouble with the jobrunner again? PlatinumYellow (talk) 12:51, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

I am unable to remove the notice of Wiki "fablac".
Hi, I received a notice which tells me that our wiki is dormant (https://fablac.miraheze.org/wiki/Accueil). I made some changes but the record is still present. I am unable to remove it. Thank you for your help.
 * I don't get why you can't edit it, but I have removed it. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 15:48, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Change my default name
Can you change my default name from Gordonuk to Admin on ayrshire.miraheze.org

thanks.


 * Unfortunately, usernames on Miraheze are all linked (you are Gordonuk on all Miraheze wikis). If you change your name, you change your name on all wikis. "Admin" is not an acceptable name, but you may change to another name, if you want. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:54, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Not to mention, the username "Admin" is already used for a global account. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 22:02, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Losing session data and keep being logged out
Hi, I was just wondering if anyone else was experiencing some strange behaviour on their wikis. I have been editing on and off most of the afternoon/evening but in the last couple of hours I have noticed I keep losing my sessions. It has been hit and miss, sometimes it is fine and other times I have to keep logging back in again, sometimes three or four times. It will show 'guest' but at the same time show my 'preferences', 'watchlist', 'contributions' and 'logout'. Some of the message I have seen whilst apparently logged in have been:


 * You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reasons:
 * The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Administrators.
 * The Lonsdale Battalion has restricted the ability to create new pages. You can go back and edit an existing page, or log in or create an account.

And...


 * Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data.
 * You might have been logged out. Please verify that you're still logged in and try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in, and check that your browser allows cookies from this site.

It's probably just a glitch, but certainly a mildly annoying one as it is taking twice as long to save pages. But I'll check again tomorrow sometime and if it keeps happening I'll include a Phabricator ticket. Borderman  talk 21:21, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

readable --> unreadable main page
Greetings. A newly created private wiki's Main Page is readable to the world. I'd appreciate it if you could please make it unreadable to all except users logged-in to the specific wiki. That wiki is: 5a.miraheze.org Thank you!
 * Handled on IRC. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:10, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Global Rename Request
My Name is 아름불휘. Before Global account rename It has requested. But, Request name Status is "Queued". How much is time?--61.255.86.152 10:11, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Request name change for wiki
We have the following wiki: https://umod.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

We have not been using the wiki much so far but that is about to change.

When we first started, the name of the group was going to be "umod" but now the name will be Alliance of Genome Resources (AGR).

We'd like to change the name of the wiki from "umod" to "agr"

Is this possible?

Thanks,

Carol Bult
 * I'm sorry but that is not possible at the moment. If you have a lot of data we can move it to your new wiki. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 16:43, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

@Reception123: Thanks for the quick feedback. Then we should take down the existing wiki and stand up a new one with a new name-- "AGRwiki".We don't have much content at all yet on the existing site so nothing important will be lost by deleting the account named "umod".
 * So do you confirm that you want "umodwiki" to be deleted? This action is irreversible and all content will be deleted. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 18:01, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Please don't take umod down yet. let me create the new wiki first and move a tiny bit of content there. Thanks! Jak (talk) 18:26, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

New User login creation error
I have the following wiki: https://sapperpedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page However, when a new user tries to join by selecting "Create account" or "Join Sapperpedia" from the Login screen, both return the message:

"The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Administrators, member." I cannot make them a member until they join, but they cannot join without being a member.

Could you advise?

Thanks in advance Metafourzero (talk) 07:38, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * This should not happen, but try creating the account on Meta, then logging into the wiki and then adding the user as a member. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 16:06, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip. It does work if they register at meta - but I would have to tell them the workaround first. If someone tried to create an account from my home page, then they get the error message and then just don't register. It didn't used to be like this. It seems the "create account" page has now been restricted to a user group instead of being visible to all. Can it be restored or fixed?Metafourzero (talk) 18:48, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Based on our settings, this was actually expected, and I'm surprised no one pointed it out before. anonymous users have the 'createaccount' right, but on private wikis they were forbidden from reading 'Special:CreateAccount' I've added this page to the global read-whitelist (it's readable by everyone on all wikis, no matter what other settings are configured) so this should now work as intended on your wiki. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 19:03, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * What great service! I have just made a donation to say thank you. Keep up the good work.Metafourzero (talk) 15:40, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

drones4all.miraheze.org

 * This wiki will now start to be edited, please do not deactivate or delete it. Thanks! Patribus (talk) 19:28, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Patribus provisory (talk) 14:31, 26 November 2016 (UTC) : Could I call your attention to my request here Requests for adoption#Drones4Nature https:.2F.2Fdrones4all.miraheze.org Thank you!

Change username
Could you please change my user name from User:Rob c to User:BuilderOne please. Thanks.
 * done! -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 13:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Request for interwiki linking
I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I would like to have an interwiki link between adia.project and Adia Pedia. My preferred prefixes would be "ar" for adia.project and "ap" for Adia Pedia. Thanks! Rajavlitra (talk) 01:27, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * have you tried editing Special:Interwiki on your wiki? Local administrators should be able to do it. All wikis use Meta Wiki's interwiki list, but your shortcuts probably shouldn't exist on all wikis. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 13:11, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You apparently can't do that, my bad. I've added the prefixes to the global table. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:28, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Request for newtrend.miraheze.org
I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I would like to turn my Newtrend Wiki from private to public. Can someone help me with that?
 * I've made the wiki public for you. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:58, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Login/Access/Weird Issue in All The Tropes
On the past couple of weeks, I have been unable to see All The Tropes while logged in and in desktop mode. I can log in, access to the site and make editions to the wiki, as long as I do on Mobile mode. It's the only wiki in Miraheze where I have that problem. I've tested in several several browsers and the ones who doesn't give me a white screen give me a screen claiming error 500 when I log in in desktop mode. I'm not sure if it is a bug or something wrong on my configurations. What can be done here? Lequinni (talk) 15:23, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ATT appears to be working for now. There appear to have been sporadic issues with the job queue over there, and it put a lot of load on one of our servers for an extended period of time. During this time the 5xx errors started showing up but should have completely recovered by now. Please let me know if you see the error again, and if possible an exact timestamp of when it happened (include your timezone). It makes finding server logs easier. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 15:55, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I have just logged again from Vivaldi, and I have the same error. It was around 10:40 UTC -4. Lequinni (talk) 14:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Issue
I have had no recent downtime. However, I have an issue:

Global Notice: Miraheze would like to appologize to anyone who noticed recent downtime. There were technical difficulties renewing a SSL certificate for one of our wikis and one of our two servers temporarily became inaccessible. All issues should be resolved now, please email staff or leave a message here if you are still experiencing issues.
 * You mean you have distrubed with global notice? We have recently down with server. And you have problem with your wiki, you can explain at here. Maybe global notice can show two weeks. :)TriX (talk) 13:21, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Wanted Categories
I'm not sure if it's an issue, I've tried to correct and see what pages are in one of my categories called Page Count by creating the category again, but as there doesn't seem to be any categories attached to it, I'm not sure what the issue is exactly, any help would be appreciated. PlatinumYellow (talk) 11:54, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * to the best of my knowledge deleting and recreating the category page won't do anything. If you're talking about the pages in that category not showing up, that's probably the job queue. Purge the individual pages, give it time, and let us know if you still have an issue. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 13:56, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I have no idea which pages they are, because when I click on the category nothing shows up, I do apologise as I did make an error in my original comment I meant to say that there are no pages attached to it. PlatinumYellow (talk) 21:40, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Delete ETPO
Hi,

You can delete ETPO.miraheze.org if you want. Not in use anymore.

Thanks FelixINX (talk) 17:58, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Please confirm this deletion as this action is irreversible and all the content on your wiki will no longer be accessible. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 14:16, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I confirm. FelixINX (talk) 15:44, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 14:11, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

No admin in own wiki
Hi

I am very new to miraheze. I created an user account, z3001x, and requested for a wiki which was created by TriX, quickly 4 days ago. Thanks a bunch for the approval of my request and creating the wiki! The wiki-URL is https://lucilekbt.miraheze.org/wiki/

Sadly, when I try to go to this URL while I am logged in, I get an error saying that I am not authorized because I am not a member of the Administrators group of this wiki.

So I can't edit my own wiki. :-(

Could you please grant me admin rights for this wiki or tell me what else I have to do to be able to add content to the wiki.

Also I want to grant someone else rights to edit the wiki.

Thx a lot Chris (z3001x)
 * , please see. TriX (talk) 00:20, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a wiki admin, according to Special:Listusers (Z3001x (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren)‏‎ (Bürokrat, Administrator) (Erstellt am 7. Oktober 2016 um 04:07 Uhr) ). Please try logging in again, and if it still doesn't work tell us. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 14:06, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Someone please check the wiki request queue
It has like 9 requested wikis that havent been created yet--TheInternetEmo (talk) 12:20, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Please be patient Wiki Creators are not active 24 hours a day. MacFan4000 (talk) 12:28, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I know, but its been like one day since the last wikis were created--TheInternetEmo (talk) 13:04, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the inconvenience, but unfortunately we don't have enough volunteers to complete all the requests, please be patient. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:25, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * For the record this backlog used to go longer than a week sometimes with like 25 or more wikis in the queue. I for one am happy that our volunteers have been doing an extremely good job keeping the backlog down and handling these requests quickly. Honestly the feature request backlog has been way worse than wiki creation backlog atm, so.. not too worried about the wiki time o; hopefully it stays (on average) as good as it has been lately. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 23:06, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Deletion
Hi, can you please delete Simpukarropedia? I have moved to a different wiki, and this wiki no longer needs to exist. I backed up some pages on the new wiki, so i guess you dont need to ask me to confirm this. thanx--TheInternetEmo (talk) 08:23, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay I will close, so can delete after 60 days. TriX (talk) 11:42, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 15:42, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Logo problem
I submitted a request to change the logo of https://nemesis.miraheze.org to https://nemesis.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Wiki.png. The request was apparently done, but it still displays the default miraheze logo. Is that a glitch or something?--TheInternetEmo (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello. A pull request was made by a volunteer, but wasn't actually merged by a System administrator. I have now merged it and the new logo should now be appearing. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 15:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * oh lol--TheInternetEmo (talk) 15:54, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Lock Account
Please lock account User:Contoh Pengguna or example user TriX (talk) 15:39, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Lock account User:T-REX IT Wrong ceate. Cytos (talk) 14:22, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * We generally don't "lock" accounts for such things. Accounts are "locked" or "globally banned" for cross-wiki vandalism only. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 20:07, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Can I do a pdf book with more pages ?
In Wikipedia I can do a book with all the pages that I want. And here ? User:Paolo C
 * That requires Extension:Collect, which needs to be reviewed if you would like it on your wiki. Also, in the feature requests like this should go on Phabricator. Thanks. MacFan4000 (talk) 21:44, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


 * How can I install Extension:Collect in the server? User: Paolo C
 * You can request at Request features. Unfortunately Collection has been declined, but PdfEmbed and PdfHandler can be enabled if you would like. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 20:20, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Deletion
I got a notice of inactivity on hyler.miraheze.org. You can go ahead and delete the page, actually, as well as deactivate / delete my account. I have started pursuing much more time-consuming things in my life and will not have the time to tend to it properly.

Thank you for all you have done, and continue to do.

- g
 * ✅ MacFan4000 (talk) 15:04, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 18:53, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Job Queue
I'm sorry to keep bothering you with this again, but as I use it to find errors and keep track of parts of my wiki, I was wondering if this has stopped working on ZGradeTennis could someone please fix this? It would be very much appreciated :) PlatinumYellow (talk) 11:11, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ MacFan4000 (talk) 17:02, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

mathpuzzles.miraheze.org and matheraetsel.miraheze.org
Is there any way to improve the rendering of formulas? I would be willing to donate for a server upgrade / renting more cpu time.

I have tried to add a collection of math formulas to those wikis but ended up assembing them with plain HTML where possible. That approach quickly hits its limits. I have finally found the "bug" reports about these problems with comments that it can take a few hours for a formula to render. Not a good situation if you try to write down a math proof riddled with formulas.

Thanks, Zyphrus (talk) 21:22, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Change my username
It should be Solid Virus, with the right capitalization, not as it is. Solid VIrus (talk) 17:19, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:03, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * :) Solid Virus (talk) 00:17, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Deletion
Please delete my wiki. We are looking at our options! Thank you!
 * User has emailed me saying that they have changed their mind, therefore there will be no need for deletion. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 19:45, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

change permission
please set permission on traunstoaner.miraheze.org to
 * anyone can read
 * only authorized user can edit
 * only admin can create user

thanks --Rimbao (talk) 19:46, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Theese requests go here. MacFan4000 (talk) 21:46, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Remove redundant user names
Could you please remove the following users, as they are redundant: they had made their own registration but the naming is not consistent. So I made new users for all of them. D BELDERBOS (Geregistreerd op 23 aug 2016 om 20:45) (geblokkeerd) H VERHAGEN  (Geregistreerd op 23 aug 2016 om 20:44) (geblokkeerd) Martin1948  (Geregistreerd op 25 sep 2016 om 11:29) (geblokkeerd) PLuksemburg (Geregistreerd op 1 nov 2016 om 10:17)  (geblokkeerd) RGDS, Arie Arie (talk) 21:00, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Is it possible to follow this up, please? Arie (talk) 15:54, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Accounts can't be deleted so there is unfortunately nothing to do here. John (talk) 16:13, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Change sidebar menu
Hi, I would like to change the sidebar menu, adding a few links to chapters in my wiki. I'm sorry, but editing MediaWiki:Sidebar does not help me out. Nothing changes when I alter something there... Arie (talk) 18:57, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * That would be because you did not add anything to it to begin with. MacFan4000 (talk) 19:02, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I just found it out, I swapped the link and the target text... Stupid! Thanks. Arie (talk) 15:55, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Exception encountered, of type "Exception"
Please help me urgently. I have made several accounts for my team. Now many have problems logging in after asking for a temporary password and changing that. They see this: Exception encountered, of type "Exception". What to do next? What is happening here? Arie (talk) 15:53, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you list any particular users that has issues? Any exception codes? John (talk) 16:19, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Luksemburg (Overleg | bijdragen | blokkeren)‏‎ (beheerder) (Geregistreerd op 26 okt 2016 om 21:10)

Vannorde (Overleg | bijdragen | blokkeren)‏‎ (beheerder) (Geregistreerd op 26 okt 2016 om 21:15)

Rijsdam (Overleg | bijdragen | blokkeren)‏‎ (beheerder) (Geregistreerd op 26 okt 2016 om 21:11)

Marchal (Overleg | bijdragen | blokkeren)‏‎ (beheerder) (Geregistreerd op 26 okt 2016 om 21:11)

Hondema (Overleg | bijdragen | blokkeren)‏‎ (beheerder) (Geregistreerd op 26 okt 2016 om 21:08)

Maybe more...

The address bar of the latter (he sent me a printscreen) says: https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/SpecialCentralLogin/start?tokenda3ceeceed66c258c11a695cb999874

Not any exception code, just what the title says! Arie (talk) 10:24, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure what the issue is, but please ask them if they have cookies enabled or not and ask them to try logging into another wiki, such as Login wiki or this wiki -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 14:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC)


 * It looks like about half of the users encounters this problem, I cannot replicate it myself. But it looks like their accounts are corrupt: One is logged in but is not allowed to create his own page User talk:Marchal.

Another one states that he could not login to the two test sites, though he can login in my wiki. Unfortunately the exception turns up. But in some cases the backspace key brings them to the wiki...

None has cookies blocked!

Is there a way to see whether there are problems with the aforementioned users?

I am giving a workshop to 20 users coming saturday and would like NOT to spend time on this issue ;( Arie (talk) 20:08, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, have you encountered this issue Saturday? Thanks, Southparkfan (talk) 18:54, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Deletion
Please delete all of my wikis and my user account - I have found a better spot to create my websites. Thank you for your time. &mdash; MuskiAnimal  talk  02:55, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * We are sorry to see you go. We do not delete user accounts but all three of your wikis have been deleted. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 19:59, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

Checkuser for DeltaQuad on wikicanadawiki
User: DeltaQuad ( contributions &bull; CA &bull; blocks log &bull; rights log &bull; global rights log ) Group: CheckUser Reason: Requesting this permission locally for wikicanada.miraheze.org

Additional comments: On WikiCanada, I have a way to technically "ban" user accounts from reading pages, except for a couple of system special pages and the Main page. However, because of CentralAuth, it has been brought to my attention that banned users could create an account on another wiki (even here), and then log in with it on my wiki. To prevent this, I am told that I would need to block the user's IP address. While autoblocks work for 24 hours, the autoblock log entry doesn't tell me the actual IP. Therefore, I am requesting CheckUser locally on my wiki so that I can effectively prevent banned users from evading. Please note that I don't intend to ban anyone in the near future, but I need the ability to do so if and when the time arises. Thank you for your consideration. ---DQ 03:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.
 * Comments/Questions


 * I personally don't think the rights are (currently) needed. To the best of my knowledge, autoblocks aren't for 24 hours, they duplicate the time of the original block (that caused the autoblock). I may be mistaken in this regard, and either way I don't think you have a demonstratable need for now. Autoblocks should do the job either way. If you have reason to believe that someone is evading blocks, please make a request for Stewards to perform a checkuser, in which case the person performing the check will tell you whether or not accounts are likely linked, without revealing the user's IP. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 03:14, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Ban evasion is different than block evasion. The latter case I can tolerate. I don't like it, and the evading user will be blocked, but I can tolerate it. A user would only be banned from reading pages after they have been blocked multiple times and have refused to get the point. By the time a user is banned, any form of evasion needs to be stopped before it can be started. When banning a user, I would also block them indefinitely, but autoblocks can't last indefinitely. So when the autoblock expires, what happens? How else do I prevent the creation of a global account elsewhere and then use of it on my wiki? As noted above, these protocols will likely see very little use, but I would like them available should I ever need them. ---DQ 03:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * As noted on my Phabricator bio and my user page on my wiki, I am also Microsoft Outlook staff. As part of this position, I have access to a similar tool to CheckUser (not exactly the same, but similar). Therefore, I have experience with this type of stuff, and would not be tempted to misuse it. ---DQ 03:31, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose I think that for now there are enough stewards to take care of this, and as you have now seen, they take care of the request in reasonable time. If there are a lots of ban evasions, then this tool could be justifiable and I would agree to it being given but currently I don't see the necessity for it on the concerned wiki. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 14:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Enough stewards? According to the most recent list, there's only three. 3 stewards for over 1500 wikis definitely is skimpy. Note that I am not requesting full Steward privileges - I'm just making a disputed statement to your claim above. ---DQ 15:02, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * There may have been 1500 wikis created but almost a majority have been closed. Last I checked there were only 850 open wikis. Also, that doesn't really matter either. What I consider important is the ratio between the number of stewards and the rate of requests that require stewards. There hasn't been a recent request to perform a checkuser. (The only request I can remember was not actioned). The recent request for oversight was handled very quickly. As such, if you reasonably requested us to perform a check it would probably be acted on quickly. Also, I don't know if "autoblocks can't be indefinite" is: true or not, but I know old indef blocks can still issue autoblocks, and that users can be repeatedly autoblocked. PS not saying you were but please try not to sound sarcastic in edit messages. You act like what Reception said is completely unreasonable. --NDKilla
 * I agree with NDKilla, there are enough stewards (and thus people with access to CheckUser). We may have ~850 open wikis, but that doesn't mean all 850 wikis are very active. The only overloaded team is the sysadmin team, steward help is rarely backlogged fortunately. There is one block action on your wiki, and you haven't revoked read access from that user (do you want to revoke read access in such cases? Or are there other reasons?), so there doesn't seem to be a need for getting the tools either.
 * Looking at the publicly available wiki configuration, your wiki is configured to revoke read access from anonymous users, and grant it to all logged-in users (unless they are in the banned group). If you have content you want to keep private (and I assume that is the case), I strongly recommend you to switch to a private wiki; a whitelist system (manually giving read access) instead of a blacklist system (allow everyone unless banned). It is not hard to create a new user account to evade your blacklist system, and fighting against that is (in my opinion) useless. Southparkfan (talk) 19:39, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * BTW, @Southparkfan please do not be performing "non-controversial staff actions" on my wiki. I don't delete test pages anyway unless they are vandalism. How did you even manage to delete the page without sysop? ---DQ 21:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * And note that I do not have private content - the "banned" group is merely a technical action I can take to stop long-term abusers before they start. ---DQ 21:57, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * He is a global sysadmin and steward so he can do that on any wiki. MacFan4000 (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I would like a .tk instead of .miraheze.org
Dear Steward

This is Sjimenezch, from wikipuc.miraheze.org

Currently wikipuk.tk redirects to wikipuc.miraheze.org.

I would like to get a Custom Domain from dot.tk for Wikipuc using LetsEncrypt, more precisely, to have wikipuk.tk instead of wikipuc.miraheze.org

I know there is at least one wiki with a .tk, https://evelopedia.tk/wiki/About_EVE_Online

If there is anything I have to do, please tell me, because as some people I didn't understand the instructions on this article

Thank you

WikiCanada
Hello. For those who were not on IRC last night, I am the sister of DeltaQuad, who is the founder of WikiCanada. Late last night, DQ was in a car accident and was taken to the hospital. She did survive, but is in critical condition. She has granted me the right to "take over" her wiki, at least for the time being. However, I don't have technical ability to do so, and I think only a Steward can grant me such ability. My sister has also requested that all of her open Phabricator tasks remain open, and any of them that are in progress should be completed. Thank you. Amanda (talk) 13:59, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

global login rename
I chose Paolo C as username without underscore but phabricator do not accept it so I put Paolo_C as username for the login in phabricator. Now I have Paolo C in meta and Paolo_C in phabricator but I cannot login in my const wiki and in phabricator. Can I have a global username PaoloCallox ? News : I have had access in const without to make login and if I want change my password it do not give me the temporary code by email. Paolo C

Wanted Categories
I thought it would eventually go, but for some reason I still have a category for Page Count], which has 3 pages attached to it, but it doesn't as no pages whatsoever show up in it. What's going on here? PlatinumYellow (talk) 22:47, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what the issue is. I have tried running a maintenance script but that still hasn't fixed anything. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:19, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Change username
Hi, Could you please change my user name to "Truxte"?

Thanks
 * Please wait... We can change your username. MT7 (talk) 14:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ John (talk) 15:09, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Abandoning Css and Js schoolboard
I have decided to abandon Css and Js schoolboard due to lack of interest in activity. Could you please close it? Lemondoge T C GC 03:01, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I've closed it. If you need anything else, let us know. -- Void  Whispers 16:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Infobox error
I am having trouble opening the following page on my lionhearttales wiki: Template:Infobox officeholder. The associated subpages are both working fine, but the page itself will not open. If I manually type the URL to edit the page into the browser it does open the browser window but doesn't seem to be saving. When I use the template on another page, it seems to work but adds a extra

tag pair for no apparent reason. In Firefox, the page simply stops loading and the screen remains blank white, but when I tried to open the page in Chrome it said their was an HTTP 500 error. I noticed that another person had an issue on their wiki with a page of the same name and am wondering if the issue is related.

Refsmithy93 (talk) 06:31, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I can confirm I am getting the error too. It could have possibly be something on the page. I have now deleted it. Please try creating a new one, and tell us if the issue still is persistent. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:15, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

I just tried to create the page again with exactly the same code as is on the page on wikipedia.org and have encountered the same problem again. The code works fine in wikipedia, but doesn't seem to be working on miraheze. I might have to forget about that page for a while and see if I can find another way to do what I want. Refsmithy93 (talk) 00:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Please delete my Wiki
Hello,

please delete my Wiki. I don't need it anymore.

Thanks. Bye
 * I'm assuming you are referring to https://mjahn.miraheze.org . Please confirm that you would like to delete the wiki mentioned for me to be able to delete it. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:13, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌ as no confirmation was given. GFN (talk) 04:22, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

WikiCanada dead
The lifespan of WikiCanada has officially ended. In response, please:


 * Do NOT close or delete the wiki until I request such actions


 * DO hide from public/delete all Phabricator tasks related to WikiCanada, and also delete this Phabricator account.

Amanda (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Acknowledged the first point. For the second point tickets and accounts can't be deleted (well can but not without messing everything up and creating a lot of dead-ends). John (talk) 21:47, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, but can't you change the visibility of all WikiCanada tasks so that only I can seem them? I can take this action myself on calendar events and projects, but cannot on standard tasks. Amanda (talk) 22:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * We can but our work ethic is everything in the open where practicable. We restrict the ability to edit view policies on tasks to members in "Security" only in order to keep this ethic enforceable. John (talk) 22:23, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * - It may not be your preferred method, but you can "HIDE" your articles by deleting all the articles in the wiki. Then other members except sysops of your wiki cannot view them. You can read them by typing page title and even restore them by using undelete action. --Utolee90 (talk) 06:53, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Please delete WikiCanada from the database entirely at this time. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 20:44, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. John (talk) 21:09, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Request global lock/ban username "missile" on meta
Recently the user named "대공미사일" attacked my wiki(jayuwiki.miraheze.org/) Although there are only three "contribs" in my wiki, there may be several logs in AbuseFilterLog (link) I suspect this user abusing in other wikis(Refer to - here or Here(In addition the (suspected) user abused the wiki with using more than 10 accounts) or Here) with various accounts.

Therefore, I ask you for these:


 * 1) Please block all the accounts containing the keyword "미사일" in whole meta site and add the keyword "미?일", "밋?일", "뮈?일", "미?이루", "밋?이루", "ㅁㅣㅅ" in the account blacklist. (? Means an arbitrary character, either Korean or the other)
 * 2) Please check the ip of such abused accounts and block these "IP"s. If it turns out that these IP are for Open proxy, VPS or mobile network, please block whole ips in the same CIDR.


 * There is nothing we can do about the two last wikis you mentioned (osawiki and modoo.ml) as there are not part of Miraheze. As for the IPs a CheckUser will be performed by a steward if they think it is necessary and they will take the necessary actions. As for blacklisting names I am not sure how or if this works, but you could try something with Special:AbuseFilter. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 10:59, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Name change
Can you change my username to WEMO666?--TheInternetEmo (talk) 10:56, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. John (talk) 11:45, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

GIPB-Exemptions
Hi (I'm sorry for ping). I want to request about global ipblock-exemptions for myaccount. MT7 (talk) 05:56, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

H1 vs. MT7
I know this is going to sound weird coming from me, but I would like to request that user accounts H1 and MT7 be compared via CheckUser. I have reason to believe that they are the same user, as the extremely poor spelling and grammar patters appear to be identical or close to identical in 95% of their contributions. Amanda (talk) 02:29, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The accounts aren't really being used abusivly or to deceive and with nothing exceptional to prove - there's very little to be gained from a CU or confirmation of account ownership. So John (talk) 02:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Privacy Policy
I know CU and OS tools are currently declined to local wiki founders, but I just wanted to bring up something that has been mentioned before.

In Phabricator T1002, wrote in reply to my cousin (MatthewPW): "If and when we get a privacy policy that affects all wikis, you might be able to get CU or OS to use the tools yourself, but you will never be allowed to grant the rights to other users (unless you become a Steward, and anything else that implies)."

Does this have any ghost of a chance of happening? I understand if it doesn't, but I just wanted to check. Amanda (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. They're community tools for bettering the community and would be assigned with strong community consensus. While that's yet to be made formal, at least 20 votes at 80% support ratio would be the minimum. John (talk) 11:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to the global community or the local community that would be affected? Amanda (talk) 13:02, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Well the local community as they are local rights. The global view only matters for global rights. Though views from globally active users may be considered if voiced locally. Rights probably won't be assigned until a global policy is established which would be the global community view. John (talk) 13:20, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Can no more edit my page
Hello,

I wanted to edit my wiki page but can no more edit it. I do not see Edit tab at all. Kindly check my permissions.

wiki link: https://sanskritapradeepa.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page user name: srsmutth

Regards, Aniruddha
 * Your permissions are unchanged "Srsmutth (talk | contribs | block)‏‎ (bureaucrat, administrator) (Created on 12 June 2016 at 19:53)" and I see the edit tab. If you still can't see it please create a task here and include a screenshot if possible. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 13:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Useable images
In the new year, I'm going to be looking at adding more images to my wiki as images of players would obviously be helpful, and maps as an example, but I'm unsure exactly what I can use and how I can use it when looking at certain copyright terms, any assistance would be greatly appreciated. PlatinumYellow (talk) 14:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Unless you requested a change specific to your wiki, Miraheze wikis (except the ones here) are licensed under CC BY SA 3.0. For the actual uploading you can either use Special:Upload or you can request MsUpload if you need to upload multiple images. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 14:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

WikiCreator
So that I've returned to the realm, can I get the WikiCreator hat back? &mdash; revi</tt>  21:10, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Wiki creators are assigned at the discretion of any sysadmin, so feel free to assign the rights to yourself! Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 21:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Buttons don't work for me, otherwise I would have done so. &mdash; revi</tt>  21:15, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You need to go to this page, and check the box labeled "userrights" (on my device, it's in the right column near the bottom). After you save that, go to Special:UserRights and assign the wiki creator to yourself. Don't forget to undo the first change once you're done. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 21:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That's what I want to avoid because that's tricky. I's rather wait Stew. &mdash; revi</tt>  03:36, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Whatever, I was told I have the permission grandfathered from sysadmin. Closed. &mdash; revi</tt>  03:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Realized NDK granted the rights. PS. # &mdash;Revi-alt (talk) 15:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Rename
Could someone please rename the user account "KatieKoder123" to "DQ-Test"? That is my alternate testing account, primarily for GitHub, but I don't like the fact that the username makes it seem like it's a different person. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 22:25, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. John (talk) 22:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Please also rename it on Phabricator. I haven't done anything with that account yet, so dead-ends and the like shouldn't be an issue. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 22:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. John (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

MT7 vs NDKILLA
I know you are ignore me at irc. When I ask some questions you can't answer and if I left the channel you rise to talk with other user. It's not good idea. I want we can be friendly not for descriminative. Cheers and also ping  for judge about this case. MT7 (talk) 01:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Personally I don't think there's a VS or anything here to judge. Instead of communicating with other staff members about issues, you queried me on IRc and asked things I find kind of inappropriate and creepy. I respectfully asked you to stop private messaging me and to bring up issues with other staff members. You continued to message me things I find even creepier up until the point where I ignored your hostmask. (I'd rather the pm logs not be made public). There's three Stewards, personally I think you can find somebody else to help you. Not like I'm /ignoring you on wiki. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 01:54, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay I send pm for notify you, not to say privat. I know this. Please don't bring this case to your mind. I have rounde 2 for youLOL. I only be friendy for other user. MT7 (talk) 04:53, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I still have you ignored on IRC. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 05:27, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for read. Why still it? That's not my problem. And why are you hiding behind IPv6. You embarrassed? LOL MT7 (talk) 05:09, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * chrome on my phone says I'm logged in when I'm not and I'm on my phone so I don't really care. I already told you why I'm keeping you ignored. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 05:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * okay I cant say again :) MT7 (talk) 05:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * fine by me -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 05:50, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Elements Wiki spambots
Yesterday, my wiki (elements.miraheze.org) suffered a spambot attack. globally locked all of the accounts, but apparently that was not enough. Today, two more spambot attacks occurred. Would this be one of the instances where I could be granted local CU/OS in order to clean up the damage without having to need Steward intervention? --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 17:06, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * CUOS is delegated based on a community consensus at least fulfilling the requirement for steward appointment. I can investigate the account matter if you wish me to however. John (talk) 17:07, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Please check the most recent accounts, and email me the IP addresses. I will block them locally to prevent any more from being created. Also, please globally lock all of the spambots. I will take care of the local deletion, reverting, etc. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 17:12, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Also please oversight the usernames, if technically possible. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 17:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I've ran a CheckUser and dealt with the accounts globally. I've also globally blocked an IP range associated with an entire ISP that the accounts have used scattered randomly. The accounts don't seem to meet the requirements for oversighting therefore I have no done so. I am also not at liberty to reveal exact IPs however the global blocks I have done cover from the lowest to the highest in the range of usages. John (talk) 17:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I RevDel'd the user account creation logs. For some reason, there is no RevDel available on Special:ListUsers. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 18:07, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

(reset indent) You deleted the logs. You can't hide the fact that the users exist. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 18:27, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Creators
I want to help out here. So I can help with create wiki. I will be trust. MT7 (talk) 01:58, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I for one am going to say that I feel like you may be hat collecting and I'll leave this up to another System Administrator as I usually don't have an issue handing these rights out and more wiki creators is always a plus. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 02:31, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Kriik Krik Krik MT7 (talk) 03:00, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I want it. MT7 (talk) 12:48, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I am of the same opinion as NDKilla. More so your comments after that strongly promote what NDKilla said about hat collecting, therefore I will say, at least for now. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 14:12, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If I don't get steward I can getting wikicreators. Please don't againster to me. :) MT7 (talk) 10:52, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Wiki creator
Well, if I can't get steward rights, the least I can do is help out with creating wikis. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 15:55, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Please confirm that you have read the wiki creators guide on this wiki and that you understand it. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 20:18, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I confirm. Basically: access the request, click the button to the createwiki form, verify that there aren't any errors - notably hyphens in domains, create the wiki and make sure that the founder has bureaucrat access, and notify the user that the wiki was created. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 20:30, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you please respond to my request, especially because it looks like my RFS is going down the drain? --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 02:18, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * We don't have to answer all wiki creator request in a few hours, even if we usually prefer to decide faster. &mdash; revi</tt>  06:46, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ by a puppy. John (talk) 22:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 * These are minor things, but, when reviewing a wiki request, what do I do with a description written in a foreign language in terms of verifying that it is appropriate? Also, if a user requests a "private" wiki, a). How do I do that, and b). How do I make sure that the bureaucrat exists and that the main page exists if the wiki is private? --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 00:39, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * First off, the main page (among a few other things) is always visible on private wikis. Second, you can view if the wiki requestor is a crat by using Special:CentralAuth/Username. For example, viewing Special:CentralAuth/Void shows where I have rights, this includes private wikis (although I don't actually have any rights on any private wiki). Finally, on Special:CreateWiki, there is a button that says "Mark this wiki as private". -- Void  Whispers 01:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, although that doesn't answer my first question, which was how do I verify that a wiki description written in a foreign language is appropriate content? --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 02:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You know... Learn that language or rely on the mighty Google. Or if there are knowledgable people, leave it to them. &mdash; revi</tt>  03:17, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

I need a CSR to set up my SSL
Thank you for setting up my wiki!

I have set up the CNAME as specified in the Custom Domain instructions, so now I'm trying to set up the SSL that I purchased for this. I bought it from SSLS.com, and it's asking for a CSR to activate the certificate. This is the information page they have about it. It says I will need this from the host, and since you guys are the host... is this something you can provide so I can finish setting up this wiki?

http://helpdesk.ssls.com/hc/en-us/articles/203226631-What-is-CSR-

Thanks again!
 * Hello, please read Custom domains and send an email to csr@undefinedmiraheze.org with your domain name. We will proceed there. &mdash; revi</tt>  06:50, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Exemption Request
Hello

I request exemption from dormancy for my wiki https://softwarecrisis.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

It fits under this category: "Wikis made to be read, where a lot of information is already on wiki and doesn't need to be actively edited."

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rain1 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 5 January 2017‎ (UTC)
 * Added it to the exceptions. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 16:43, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Unmerge global accounts
Hi, as I am wiki creator now, I will end up having a lot of global accounts on the wikis that I create. Therefore, at this time, please unmerge/unlink all of my accounts listed in Special:CentralAuth/DeltaQuad that meet both of the following criteria:


 * There are 0 contributions to the wiki, and


 * I am not a member of any elevated groups on the wiki.

I tried to do this myself, but for some reason Special:UnlinkAccounts allows me to access the page, but when I click submit, it throws an internal technical error. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 18:55, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Same thing for me. Will open a Phabricator task for this. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 09:57, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what this will gain. Having accounts on other wikis mean nothing. &mdash; revi</tt>  10:03, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind - I didn't realize that the special page I was trying to access doesn't do what I want. I have stated my request above, could a steward please enact it as soon as possible? Thanks. --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 02:14, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Unattaching/unlinking will cause more confusion than any benefit because it will still show up in the CA as 'unattached accounts', IIRC from the wikimedia. &mdash; revi</tt>  07:55, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Now I can see the example what happens if your request is done: Special:CentralAuth/ServantRules (archiveis). (Point: see the loginwiki) Once created, it's there on CA forever. &mdash; revi</tt>  17:35, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Visual Editor keeps destroying tag
When clicking on "Edit" on foodsharinghamburg-Wiki, the visual editor opens. After editing and saving, the tag (which is needed for the comments plugin) is changed to - which does not show the comments section. I have to edit the source every time an edit has been made to fix this.

Example: https://foodsharinghamburg.miraheze.org/wiki/Protokoll_Hamburger_foodsharing_Plenum_Januar_2017

I think it's a problem with auto-syntax by visual editor. Maybe there is a blacklist with html-Tags that are not to be autocompleted by the visual editor?

Global rename request
I think the best way to resolve this crisis is to request a global rename of my Miraheze CentralAuth and my Phabricator accounts. I will rename my GitHub account once my Phabricator account has been renamed. Please rename all of my Miraheze-related accounts to User:Lawrence-Prairies (If you're curious where that name came from, it's the two rivers surrounding the Island of Montreal). --- DeltaQuad  (talk contribs email), 13:00, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * This user has attempted to be named as a Steward twice and has attempted to change the rules on who gets access to the CheckUser tool twice, all in the last six weeks. Is this rename request an attempt by the user to cover his or her tracks so that he or she can try to get access to CheckUser again? --Robkelk (talk) 14:17, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ The MediaWiki account has been globally renamed. As you have used the phabricator account, it can not be renamed unfortunately. Creating a new account is the only way to use the new name on Phabricator. John (talk) 19:50, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It will not allow me to create a new account because the DQ username is still linked via MediaWiki. Even if I log out of Phabricator and revoke access via OAuth, it still logs me back in under the old name after I re-authorize the application. Why is there no "register new account" button on the login screen like Phacility Phabricators have? --- Lawrence-Prairies  (talk contribs email), 20:12, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * We don't allow accounts to be created without being linked to a Miraheze account. I've removed the external account entry from the database so Phabricator should no longer associate the Miraheze account with the Phabricator one. John (talk) 20:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Export my wiki
I would like an export of the contents of aryaman.miraheze.org and pq.miraheze.org, preferably as zip files. I'd also like the wikis to be closed, since I cannot contribute to them actively anymore. Aryamanarora (talk) 23:20, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Please close my wiki. My wiki's address is http://allthingswiki.miraheze.org.
Hello Please close my wiki. My wiki's address is http://allthingswiki.miraheze.org. Thank you.
 * Already closed by someone else. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 12:05, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Creators
I would to help with creating a wiki I will be fast to create and I already to read the guide. Thanks H1 (talk) 08:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I will leave this up to another sysadmin. Personally, due to recent behavior I would wait a bit before granting these rights. Reception123 (talk) (<font color="#AF91521"> contribs  ) 12:05, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Steward then WikiCreator in a short timeframe sounds hat collecting. -1. &mdash; revi</tt>  17:04, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for respon Receptions H1 (talk) 22:22, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Going to deny this per revi and Reception123. I'm also creating a bunch of wikis right now, if the back log gets bad (which it hasn't been in a while) I'll reconsider. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 00:32, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I will good work with wikicreators. H1 (talk) 13:33, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

How much a long we can wait? Hey. H1 (talk) 02:19, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


 * If you read NDKilla correctly H1, you would find that he already rejected your request for several reasons, including lack of one needed and also due to hat-collecting. LulzKiller (talk) 05:23, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Changing the miraheze-given subdomain
Is it possible to change kamenrider.miraheze to riderpedia.miraheze? Thank you! ~

(BananaArms 1/15/17 -- Forgot to add signature when creating the topic.)


 * I'll ping a sysadmin, as wiki creators cannot do this GFN (talk) 22:34, 15 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Tech:Rename a wiki this is possible for operations members (myself included, and I'll be the one doing it if you ask) to do, but after looking at your wiki it has no pages, no logs (besides automatic account creations), and no custom configuration to the best of my knowledge. If it doesn't really matter to you, it would be much simpler to request and get a new wiki. -- Cheers, NDKilla ( Talk • Contribs ) 02:09, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Oversight request - image deletion
On 's talk page: User talk:Guy vandegrift


 * ✅ by John --GFN (talk) 22:40, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Cancel wiki and account
Hi,

I just want to request the cancellation of my wiki Aprendiendo Forex (forex.miraheze.org), and also cancellation of my user.

Thanks!

Pepribal (talk) 03:08, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi there, I'm GFN. I've closed your wiki per request; as for account closure, you'd have to wait for a steward to comment as I cannot do that. Good luck, and thanks for flying Miraheze! GFN (talk) 03:37, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello Pepribal. There really is no way to close an account. We don't delete them, and have no real reason to lock yours. I'd suggest that you just leave it be. Sorry to see you go. Best wishes -- Void  Whispers 14:24, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok. I'll do this. Thanks for everything! Pepribal (talk) 12:03, 18 January 2017 (UTC)