Meta:Administrators' noticeboard

New noticeboard only for blocks/global locks
Hi! What Mirahezians think about a page creation for requesting global locks/local blocks (or rather incidents). We already have SN or AN, I know, but most threads are not about locks (rarely, it's too messy and late to handle locks). We will rely on this Wikipedia page, or work in a similar way, where the requestor(s) state the reason, the username, and an administrator/bureaucrat/steward/GS will evaluate: Not done or Done. The structure would be similar to the common noticeboards, with a form similar to RfA (automatic). I'm sure creating a page just to resolve blocks would help a lot. Even to the point where I consult you guys to see if I open one (RfC), and avoid snow or out-of-scope. Leave here what you think. Thanks! --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 05:21, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There are ideas in the works to divide the noticeboards by function in general (a help desk, maybe a task system, maybe an experimental system to be tried by T&S). I like the spirit of the idea, but I think it would just muddy the waters at the time for something that can be a pretty simply addressed message here, or as often is the case, through discord. The suggestion as described feels just a bit too bureaucratic in light of future changes and the raw specifically of the suggestion. --Raidarr (talk) 09:28, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * My main goal is to cut down on bureaucracy around response times! It might not be nice to have an extra noticeboard (more complicated to look for), but think about the administrators response time. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 04:26, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's a noble goal, but I don't see how adding another function split from the official one is really going to do it. I think the only real path on this is to actually re-design how the system works, so users can coherently find the areas they want sooner than later instead of being bounced between various pages. That may be inevitable to a point, but we can do better especially since blocks/global locks are a rare enough appearance on either noticeboard and tend to be resolved promptly enough. What this does is add a bureaucratic element to completing locks where on Meta, the given administrator is probably already made aware either here or IRC/Discord, or with CVT, CVT gets to it when they do and resolve it fine as it is. There is simply not a niche for having this. It's an extra noticeboard for its own sake and I don't believe it sells. You think it would help a lot, I think it offers absolutely nil towards any actual problems. --Raidarr (talk) 11:26, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There's no need for a drastic change like this. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:19, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

User:YellowFrogger/Patrolling the edits to main namespace
Hi! Can I move this page: User:YellowFrogger/Patrolling the edits to namespace (main)? Do you agree with this? Thanks! --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 03:56, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The way it's written, especially with focus to you and your advice is better suited to the userspace. Personally I think there should be collaboration between multiple meta regulars to make a page written to be suited for the mainspace. --Raidarr (talk) 11:28, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I will decide to keep it in my namespace. I had even put my signature on the page. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 17:49, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, I believe this duplicates the guidelines of patroller granted and the  documentation page. I would, therefore, entertain a history merge to Patrollers, so you can adapt and merge in the non-redundant text there, if desired. Dmehus (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I created it thinking about these two pages quoted by you, it doesn't talk exactly how to mark a patrolled as patrolled. Also, what is "merge history". Even so, thanks for the reply. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:00, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Patroller request (Hypercane)
Hello, I would like to be considered for the patroller user group. I have been attempting to increase my activity as of recently, and I would like to help out even more (even if it is just one user right added). I have recently helped another user on the community noticeboard. Still in the process of helping them, but I am pretty sure with my prior experience as an administrator elsewhere I would be fit for the position. Thanks for your time. Hypercane (  talk ) 21:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You can help more with some pages (translations, for example, if you know other languages). I don't see any problem supporting you, even though, the patroller group doesn't have much more than doing the simple thing of marking edits as patrolled. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 21:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And participate in RfXs too --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 21:59, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I already plan on helping out elsewhere here too, thank you though. Hypercane  (  talk ) 22:02, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, if you continue at this pace, you can probably be a Wiki creator in 3 months :) --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:05, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  22:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Disable this variable

 * Variable: $wgMinervaAlwaysShowLanguageButton
 * What to do:
 * Localization: Special:ManageWiki/settings
 * Reason: Hello. Please disable the $wgMinervaAlwaysShowLanguageButton variable here in Meta Miraheze, located at Special:ManageWiki/settings. There is no need for it (it puts a language icon in the MinervaNeue theme), but there is no need, because there is no other site with another language than Meta-Wiki. Instead, a languages tag which shows the languages. This can avoid confusion. Thanks! --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 18:05, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like mediawiki.org does that too. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 14:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Grant Local IP Block Exemption
I averagely access the internet through TOR, as it is a great privacy protector. 29TB (talk) 17:38, 29 January 2022 (UTC)


 * You seem to know about the Local IP Block Exemption, which makes me wonder if you have actually been on this wiki with a prior account, given that your account is 8 days old at the moment. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:24, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Just because I know of that user group, does not mean I have a prior account. I merely looked at the RfCs. 29TB (talk) 22:01, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Not relevant, DMM. --Raidarr (talk) 22:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair point. I suppose I can just trash my own question as unrelated. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:08, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Per IRC, This is ❌. Blocks of proxies are done to prevent abuse and being allowed to bypass blocks should only be done where this is a legitimate need. I want to use TOR is not valid and Miraheze do not use any third party tracking on site that using TOR would prevent. Any client side tracking can be disabled client side and is unlikely to be helped. If there becomes a legitimate need, this can be re-evaluated. I will note that they are a wide range of reasons that would be acceptable and they can probably be met without a huge barrier. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  22:19, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Block for Octahedron foundation
This has been a long time coming, it has been far too long. User has a history of disruptive editing and failure or refusal to get the point. Many users have had a problem with their talk page messages, I looked through them and while some seem mild this is definitely a problem. Requesting a series of increasingly ridiculous wikis. Has already been blocked on testwiki for this same behavior. Final tipping point for this was Requests for Comment/Are bagels good. Naleksuh (talk) 02:44, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ by Dmehus --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 02:44, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Dmehus (talk) 02:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I would not regard this as done, as the block applied only applies to the main namespace, and I was proposing a sitewide block. In particular, the users talk page messages and disruptive wiki requests are one of the main problems. However, we will see if the disruption continues and if so it can be expanded to sitewide. Naleksuh (talk) 02:52, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * To be honest, Octahedron foundation annoys me. He would constantly leave me nefarious types of messages, but the one thing that got me laughing are his ridiculous wiki requests. I however can add that despite the warnings he received from not only me, but other users, he has failed to heed the warnings and continued the disruption. Also making ridiculously unsourced claims of a user being a "pedo" without sourcing anything, and resorting to vandalism and buffoonery on the Drawn Feet Wiki after he didn't get his wish, especially after he was raging over people not doing what he was commanding there. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:55, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd consider adding  namespace, if requested, by you or others, but I'm loathe to consider an indefinite sitewide block on Meta Wiki, given Meta's role as a central coordination wiki, unless absolutely required. If the user's problematic behaviour persists, then yes, I would expand this to a sitewide block, per, well, the user themselves in terms of their continued pattern of conduct. Dmehus (talk) 02:56, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh please do. The disruption has gone on far enough to the point where his questions become quite a nuisance. He's lucky he isn't locked at this time, but he should be very careful the next time. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 03:01, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Looking at the the user's global edits, a thread should probably be started at stewards' noticeboard, to be honest. I haven't looked through what percentage of the user's Meta Wiki edits are notionally constructive, but other than  and, potentially, this wiki, this is arguably looking more and more like a vandalism only account, to be honest. Dmehus (talk) 03:07, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth (and maybe this would be better suited for such an official thread), entertaining this idea makes me extremely uncomfortable. Making participation on Miraheze a matter of CIR in general is abhorrent from my perspective, especially considering that I see no real history of truly disruptive participation from any of the accounts beyond not getting the point. Every previous competency issue was addressed in the scope of that particular case. Restricting participation on Meta due to disruption is reasonable and necessary, but restrictions that span Miraheze in a wide sweeping motion are more difficult to justify. dross  (t • c • g) 09:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * When I saw  before it was made private, the contents were almost completely spam in nature. I don't consider there to be much saving unless the wiki managed to find an unseen literacy in its private time, though to be fair that lack of literacy was implied in the wiki request which I would not have comfortably granted as it was. --Raidarr (talk) 09:25, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * whats gonna happen to the wiki request Snail destroyer (talk) 13:38, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * DMM, you forgot to mention that he was blocked for abusing rights on (publictestswiki.com), where he blocked me simply for "acting like a nanny", a rather absurd block summary. --YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 03:12, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think they already knew that. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:19, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * what about my wiki request? Snail destroyer (talk) 13:47, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * They were already declined with one of them being approved anyway. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:48, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * what about the one about bagels Snail destroyer (talk) 13:56, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not getting approved by any wiki creator. Based on what we've seen on  and here on Meta, I think 1 wiki is more than enough for you.  Agent Isai  Talk to me! 16:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * But the bagels Snail destroyer (talk) 17:43, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This needs to be sitewide Naleksuh (talk) 17:46, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As Dmehus said above, Meta is a central emergency wiki where people who need help can come here. That's why a full block shouldn't be necessary. Did the user experience problems the other day, if he was totally blocked? --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 17:52, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have issued a warning. If they continue with the disruption I will consider a sitewide block. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:20, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Request for rollbacker
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 * ''The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it.
 * <span style="">Request withdrawn. <span style=""> Naleksuh (talk) 01:33, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I see a use in the function, and not in the hat. I've been patrolling the Meta a lot in particular, always keeping an eye out for recent changes. IPs have acted (in particular proxy) to make trolls. I can cite some diffs in which I painstakingly removed these disruptive editing: Twinkle is not pleasing me with the delay in showing the JS to the browser, besides, there is no edit history button (and you still have to provide the reason for the undo). The normal revert function reverts quickly. Accidents will not happen as I will remove (or shrink) the rollback button with my personal CSS. You think what's best. Thanks! --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:32, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Special:Diff/232089
 * Special:Diff/232090
 * Special:Diff/230212
 * --<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#89005E,#89005E, #FF00AF); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">YellowFrogger ( talk ) ( ✔ ) 00:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Twinkle's rollback function works fine. Naleksuh (talk) 01:33, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it.