User talk:Pixial/Archive 3

Tests
Hi. Please do not test on noticeboards as you did here on the Stewards' noticeboard. Instead please use the Sandbox or create your own userspace sandbox to test. Thanks. --Magogre (talk) 07:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Testwiki too Anpang   Talk   Stuff  07:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello. The test was serious. I was seeing if the signature would blend in with the rest of the content. YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ UnEdits ) (Bring back patrolled) 14:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter whether tests are serious or not. Whatever you are testing, test them in the sandbox. --Magogre (talk) 14:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. But I don't want complaints later about my subscription cluttering up the page. YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ UnEdits </b>) (Bring back patrolled)</b></b> 14:54, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The 'preview' feature might have worked best for this purpose. No live result, still get what you want. --Raidarr (talk) 15:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Good idea, but I was on my mobile, editing the section, as a result I didn't see the entire page and had to save the edit. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ UnEdits </b>) (Bring back patrolled)</b></b> 15:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello there, this thread, in a nutshell, is just about, You shouldn't have used the Stewards' noticeboard to test any edit, NOT even ANYONE EDIT at all. So it's fine as you've realized the mistake and hope to be careful next time.
 * You could use your sandbox, or the testwiki next time. I hope you understand and hope this helps as well.
 * It's okay now, let this thread be a DONE.
 * Happy editing there! Ugochimobi (talk) 15:40, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ UnEdits </b>) (Bring back patrolled)</b></b> 15:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Preferred pronoun
In your user infobox, you put "What is this?" in the preferred pronoun section.

A preferred pronoun is what people will call you. Something like he, they, yellow, yellowfrog, frog, frogger. Anpang  Talk   Stuff  04:29, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:30, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Template maker note!
Anpang  Talk   Stuff  09:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks. But I would rather have a ... YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 18:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * A what? Anpang   Talk   Stuff  03:59, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Please be careful with the module templates:
Hi, I've noticed you placed multiple deletion templates on the documents you've created in your recent contributions from today. Please be careful when doing this, as adding deletion tags onto either template or module documents will apply to the original template or module. While I'm not an admin of this wiki, I'm just here to tell you to be very careful when doing so. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:03, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * yes, but that's the point. These modules won't do any good anymore (because I not use the imported template anymore). And it is not possible to put deletion on modules. Thanks <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 18:23, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Unless if they serve as disruptive vandalism-only pages, then there's no point of using the deletion tag on them. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:38, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500, it looks like YellowFrogger created module documentation in error, then self-requested deletion, which I've now ✅. Your reminders are good-faith, please do try and make sure they are accurate before you advise someone. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 03:49, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Template:Red error
The template you just created Red error is the same thing as  which results in Text here. No need for style="color: #d33; font-size: larger;", just class="error". Anpang  Talk   Stuff  01:36, 12 December 2021 (UTC)


 * wow <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 22:45, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Patrolling on Meta
Hi YellowFrogger,

Though removal log action gives absolutely no substantiated detail on why the  bit was being removed, I've looked through some of your recent patrols, and do see some justification, albeit a bit weak, not without a warning first, in my view, for removing it. That being said, you are very helpful as a Meta translator and you generally try and help users on the noticeboards. There's a bit of competence is required at play here, rushing into things and so forth, and part of it is a language barrier. So, per RhinosF1's invitation in his closing comments at Administrators' noticeboard, I've instead re-added, as your edits generally do not need patrolling.

Additionally, I would suggest reviewing the patroller guidelines, our commonly accepted deletion reasons, and this English Wikipedia essay as well as this one, before reapplying for. I would probably suggest waiting at least thirty (30) calendar days from today (or thereabouts).

Given your active translation on Meta, I wonder if instead you might be better suited as a Portguese Brasilian translation administrator on Meta Wiki, rather than as a patroller.

Cheers,

Dmehus (talk) 04:43, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * However, for me to be a translation administrator, I need to place an order on AN and an administrator wait to evaluate, got it? This is it? <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:59, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Meta activity, etc
Pursuant to what Dmehus recommends here, I leave this message to open a different type of conversation. He's not wrong in that we have disagreed a few times on approach and style. I believe I have been too blunt, and I haven't offered a proper opportunity to change impression between us. I do not hold hard feelings, but perhaps this business could have gone differently if I was proactive earlier. So I will be proactive now.

To be frank, I'm not sure how an arrangement the way Dmehus suggests regarding 'mentorship' or in other words, 'taking you under my wing' would actually work, but what I will say is that I am available whenever, by message here or through Discord to discuss things such as Meta, wiki creation, and other various topics that you might find useful. I don't presume to be an expert (I'm a loudmouth with a WC badge, really) and you might reasonably believe you don't need my input, but if you do think it would be useful or would like to discuss more, I am open. Thank you for your consideration. --Raidarr (talk) 21:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I didn't really understand his comment. Maybe he got confused because we never did 'rivalry' and I never got mad at you. I think when you voted Oppose on my RfP I argued and he thought we started feuds. And what do you mean 'put you under my protection', and yes I like opinions <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 23:48, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Perhaps he did, though I can see how some of the interactions might have caused it. So, I remain open. What I mean is not really protection, but guidance particularly with regards to rights like wiki creator. I'd say patroller, but as I indicated before it doesn't mean terribly much on its own from a rights and responsibilities perspective anyway. Mainly in image. Thanks for the response :) --Raidarr (talk) 09:09, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't know what else to say, but; I'm planning on being a wiki creator again in a couple of months. Requests are taking a long time to be accepted and I have a little free time, and with this recent case. With an extra wiki creator maybe Meta will improve the time of wiki creations, nobody wants to request for a wiki and wait for hours <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 23:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Frankly, I believe the latest case case reflected impatienc more than a flaw in response time - particularly since per the request, it was actually addressed multiple times, he just had a hard time providing the necessary info. Though it is a reasonable concern to have. I do think Meta requires other things at this time at a more structural level, but that would be for each of us to determine :p --Raidarr (talk) 00:55, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly, I'm glad you accepted his request. He doesn't write very well and looks like he's really weird (he looks like he's 12 years old from the way he writes), and the user who created this page is the same user who created the essay one recently. Meta-Wiki needs a lot of things, including getting wiki requests answered in less minutes and I think I would console that. How can we do that? With more active wiki creators. Wiki creators are volunteers and volunteers need to be welcomed. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 03:59, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, I would suggest that you help with my recent request on AN to be a translation admin, because even though my English is not that good, I am an important volunteer for some Meta needs (and I think it would solve certain things) and as I've said a thousand times, I'm not faithful to this translator. It translates wrong (sometimes) and I correct it. Even so, as you can see, my translations are not low-level and I fully respect other namespace languages. For my opinion, I don't deserve to be just autopatrolled, given the level of my recent Meta collaborations, but I should wait. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:06, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The support was largely made in error based on my ignorance of translation process anyways; as has been repeated via Discord and the thread itself, it is not my position to assess and since I was working on a clear misconception, it was clear I was offering no more than trail mix to the conversation. There comes a point where it is important to note where I am and not authoritative, and on that topic I cannot lend meaningful help. --Raidarr (talk) 12:39, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Special:Diff/219138
A sentence in english that doesn't have a fullstop, an exclamation mark, or a question mark is grammatically wrong. Well yes, there's an exception to short sentences, but that isn't very short to me. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨 05:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * In a little while we will have to use points even in the sections <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 05:12, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Probably not...but the paragraphs and description you do because grammar exists. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> AP 📨 05:14, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * With that many words in a coherent thought, a period is expected with the context of that diff. So there is nothing wrong with it. --Raidarr (talk) 13:04, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Clarifying RfGR discussion a bit
"In the case of the Bukkit, being save this to oppose is discouraged at least for me. You should take this as a warning and not a curse or a joke, this one was making unnecessary edits, having to end up with Meta being hurt by peanut-style edits. As I give people second chances, he won't do that when he isn't winning an RfC again"

I said, they are not peanut-style edits. They are accidental twinkle edits that he couldn't do anything about. Twinkle is designed for wikipedia, so there are remains of the wikipedia version of twinkle in the miraheze version.

Also, you are mixing up the RfC text with the Bukkit text. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 04:17, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree 1000% with Doug. "Hat" type rules and example should be strongly discouraged in Miraheze in general, as these are random Wikipedia essays and some of the reasons go beyond that. You should, as RR, ask the candidate a question that would be most appropriate, in a way that would lead you to think differently. All are volunteers. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I asked you a question in the Questions for candidate section. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 04:31, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * He was putting to delete file pages used, in addition answering users in noticeboard questions that wouldn't help much (like peanuts). <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:26, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * But I feel like you did way more mistakes and peanut like edits. Atleast Bukkit didn't get warned so much like you do. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 04:29, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't have much evidence and you're relying mainly on statements from other users which complicates what you're trying to articulate here. I respect/understand your concern, but also provide self-confirmed evidence, including that "I've been warned too much." In reality, I've only been warned once, and when that happens, I correct myself as quickly as possible. <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:36, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Not true. It's 32%. You have atleast 4 warnings on your talk page, including archives. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 04:39, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * 32% which is the highest among them.....you are a native speaker of another language, I would suggest that you translate the pages, and don't get carried away with the statements of other users (it's not the first time you've voted support in an RfC but then oppose with third-party arguments) <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:42, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with voting support in RfCs but opposing other arguments? The language thing, I don't like to translate, I just feel like there are other things I could do with the time (coding apps, making templates, making music, stuff). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anpang (talk • contribs)