User talk:DarkMatterMan4500/Archive 3

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Your edits
Why your edits show me that red exclamation mark as if your edits aren't automatically patrolled? Because you are an autropatrolled. YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 20:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Not anymore. I had my autopatrolled right taken off by recently, because of the amount of questionable wiki requests I was approving at the time, and he said he'd review my wiki creator status by approval and declination ratio. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 20:59, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * And for the record, I won't be getting it back until after January 31st, 2022, but I'm choosing to get it back on February 21st, 2022. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I suggest you remove the Autopatrolled box for now, so as not to confuse. YellowFrogger (✉ Talk  ✐ Edits ) 23:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I have ✅ just that. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:06, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Hey
Could you please rename the main page of mh:dreadfulbooks:Dreadful Literature Wiki to Dreadful Books Wiki, restore the deleted edits, and rename it back? We need to see the full history. FatBurn0000 (talk) 23:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, could you allow YouTubers on mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Wretched YouTube Videos Wiki again, but forbid YouTubers with less than 100,000 subscribers? The content policy only states "Miraheze does not host wikis with the sole purpose of spreading unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against a person or group of people", and as long as the wiki does not have the sole purpose of doing those things, it will be fine, plus we're not trying to spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumours against a person or group of people anyway. In terms for the drama, it's less likely for them to find out about their page, we can delete the pages if they find out and even though users are saying it's not worth the risk, I don't think there was any drama back when RWW allowed users, so we should give it another try. FatBurn0000 (talk) 23:50, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The answer is no. Absolutely not. Main source of the problem stems down to unsourced pointers and libelous accusations. Still not going to happen, I'm afraid. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The wikis have enough trouble being credible about, well, everything they're allowed to post now. Per DMM's reply, allowing this merely regresses what progress has been made. And to top that I believe it would add justified fuel for critics. You think they wouldn't know, they will. And the image of Miraheze itself will be worse for it. --Raidarr (talk) 00:22, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, I've been getting pretty annoyed with you bombarding my talk pages on other wikis recently, giving me these constant requests at a rapid rate, so could you please just slow down on those? I was okay with it at first, but you've been sending me requests after another in such a fashion that I could barely even keep up with them. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:41, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, there are just a lot of things that I would like done. Also, in terms for the YouTubers, couldn't we just forbid unsourced pages and make sure that all pages are about YouTubers who make bad content, not ones that are bad people themselves. FatBurn0000 (talk) 02:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but NO exceptions, at all. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:41, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, what about YouTube channels that aren't owned by an individual user, but a channel that has a group of people who make videos on it or a channel that isn't owned by a specific person or group of people? FatBurn0000 (talk) 10:34, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * No exceptions also means no YouTube channels that aren't owned by an individual. So the answer is still no. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:20, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, is it okay if the YouTuber themselves approves of the article? Also, you should make that more clear, and plus, if the channel isn't owned by a person or a group of people, chances are, there will be multiple people owning it and they are unlikely to care. However, if you are going to do this, you should probably delete the mh:rottenwebsites:WatchMojo and mh:rottenwebsites:Screen Rant pages on RWW, they're only allowed because they have a website, which probably won't change things. FatBurn0000 (talk) 01:18, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Still no exceptions. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 03:19, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Duplicate Requests
Duplicate requests - Sorry I didn't meant to create duplicate requests. Just getting to grips with the system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillyJoeTakeAShaver (talk • contribs)
 * Your wiki request was not accepted. Add more description, eg I saw you are going to talk about Norm MacDonald - This wiki is intended for Norm Macdonald, including facts about his life, files, trivia and etc that anyone can edit freely,This wiki is not intended to violate and will follow the content policy. So maybe he accepts YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 19:17, 13 December 2021 (UTC)


 * You don't really need to add any peanut gallery comments here, as I was just about to reply to BillyJoeTakeAShaver's message here. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:22, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * This is not a comment by PEANUT. The user has no idea, as this is the first time, he may not even know that his request was not accepted. Also, his comment was unsigned. YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 19:24, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * That part I appreciate, but your additional comment adds nothing here, and doesn't exactly help them become familiar with this big project. No offense. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 19:26, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Can I please get unblocked from all of these wikis?
Can I please get unblocked from all of these wikis? Why? Since Blaskieye blocked me from TTSW, BTSW, GMW, RWW, CGW, Awesome Games Wiki, Fresh Websites Wiki, Atrocious Gameplay Wiki, Worst Music & Songs Wiki, Awful Movies Wiki, Greatest Characters Wiki, and Loathsome Characters Wiki. I was trying to improve my edits, and I need to get unblocked. That's the thing. MarioBobFan (talk) 19:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Look at these type of edits:, . Even so, if I wasn't welcomed to a location, I wouldn't keep insisting on wanting it unlocked. If people don't want me there... I would contribute a wiki of the same (same) type elsewhere YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 21:09, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Even so, I would appeal to the website owner, as I see you have no bad intentions. And even blocked on wikis you've never edited. That's why receptions have such little bad reputation externally YellowFrogger</b> (✉ Talk </b> ✐ Edits </b>)</b> 21:12, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

OK. I wonder who created them (the wikis) MarioBobFan (talk) 22:15, 12 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Created, what? <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 22:35, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I do not know. Talk to Bureaucrats, site administrators. Something like <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 00:39, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I would like my talk page access and email access back and for someone to send this to Blaskieye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarioBobFan (talk • contribs) 00:46, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @MarioBobFan He was the user who blocked you, that much I know. So how do you want me to talk to him? <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:06, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * About showing him this and asking him to unblock me. That's the things. MarioBobFan (talk) 04:18, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * But like, he locked you out so should you tell him to unlock you or something on your talk page and show the argument(s)? <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 04:56, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

I am not an inmature little kid and I am 14 years old. MarioBobFan (talk) 02:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I sent him a message and unfortunately he don't unlock you. I made two appeals, his message: "I’m not unblocking this user. Based on the way they still act (like constantly begging to get unblocked), it's clear that they're just some immature little kid. We've also given this user a ton of chances to improve, but they've blown each and every single chance.". I think you've already seen the message by not calling yourself an immature child, even though you are a teenager. Do you want me to send one more appeal to him?; or apologize? <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 02:29, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes. MarioBobFan (talk) 03:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * How do you want me to send it? speak here <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 03:21, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
 * What the hell is going on here? I see people bickering on my talk page. Cut it out, both of you. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:33, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Also
Can you unblock me on Great Characters Wiki and Loathsome Characters Wiki since I did nothing wrong there, you are an admin there, and since it is no longer a part of Qualitipedia it no longer has Qualitipedia's administration and thus you will not have to ask permission to unblock me. And I regret making that RfC, since it doesn't seem to be going anywhere productive and I feel that a more appropriate option might be to bring this up with Stewards. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:45, 18 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I'll do that, as you haven't done anything on those 2 wikis. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:46, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 15:51, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
 * His case is very and very similar to MarioBobFan, and run by the same guy, Blazikeye. I don't know what happens on these reception wikis. I saw your contributions on the wiki that you edited most, Awful Movies, and I didn't see reversed edits, and the block summary just boils down to which admin gave you a "second chance" and you wasted <b style="color: #1965e0;">YellowFrogger</b> <b style="color: #069404;">(<b style="color: #069404;">✉ Talk </b> <b style="color: #069404;">✐ Edits </b>)</b> 19:34, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
 * A great deal of controversy, which is a difficult story to put in a concise way. Bottom line is that I would say the blocking rationale is generally weak, largely based on the user's unpopularity among the active editing and administrating core of users. --Raidarr (talk) 21:18, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Re: #22006
Hi DMM, I believe the scope and purpose were clear enough. They said that they'll write about the history and other things (mentioned in the description) related to Inverclyde, a council area in Scotland. The description was fine in my view after they updated the request and hence I chose the "perfect option". --Magogre (talk) 16:17, 21 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Still, the description was pretty vague. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:19, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Request to be demoted on Upsetting Toys Wiki.
The reason I am making this request is because it is a wiki that I don't really contribute to. While my promotion was clearly to help combat -abigblueworld-, she hasn't tried to attack that wiki recently. Hell, nobody has done anything there in a while. Therefore I don't want to be a sysop there anymore. <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,crimson,indigo, #ADD8E6); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">Marxo Grouch (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello? Apologies for my impatience, but it's been a week since I made this request. Have you seen it yet? <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,crimson,indigo, #ADD8E6); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">Marxo Grouch (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've seen it. In fact, I get emails every time. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have ✅ your request. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:54, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,crimson,indigo, #ADD8E6); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">Marxo Grouch (talk) 04:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Helping and not helping
Hi DarkMatterMan4500,

Firstly, I wanted to reach out to you to say for your continued volunteer CVT assistance, and, principally, to your reports in  on IRC. Of particular note, your suspected illegitimate sockpuppetry reports have gotten much better, usually providing both useful context and usually relevant diffs. So, again, for this, and for your continued assistance to the CVT and Trust and Safety teams.

That being said, I have to just sit and shake my head with messages like these, as I'm not sure what your thought process was in this. It feels a bit like this, which isn't helpful. Please take this under due consideration and seek to avoid continuing with such unhelpful comments.

Many thanks,

Dmehus (talk) 03:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * DMM is blocked on many wikis probably for this reason. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 04:08, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, that's a leap you should not make. Please be remember to assume good faith with all users, and to avoid things like this, too. :) Dmehus (talk) 04:10, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Believe me, that wasn't my goal. I know he contributes a lot for the project to improve, no wonder he is a wiki creator. I just find it weird that it's blocked on many wikis. And seeing some of them, he made edits of this type. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 04:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger, . I believe that you likely meant well, but it just didn't come across correctly, perhaps because of the language barrier. Anyway, that's good. I appreciate your understanding and contrition. Dmehus (talk) 04:22, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oops. Sorry about that. And speaking of which, I've removed the comment just several hours after you posted this message, which was about a few minutes ago. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500, thank you. That's great. Again, thank you for your constructive counter-vandalism work that you do across wikis. This was meant to be helpful guidance, so that you can avoid negatively offsetting that constructive work in the future. We can chat more in private on this, if you like. :) Dmehus (talk) 16:09, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Question
Why did you undo my edits on mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Channel Awesome and mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Toy Channels on mh:wretchedyoutubevideos:Wretched YouTube Videos Wiki? I didn't blank any content on those pages, I don't think. FatBurn0000 (talk) 09:04, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Correction, actually, I did initially blank content on the Toy Channels page, but I restored it later. The part you reverted was the deletion tag and other changes I made. FatBurn0000 (talk) 09:10, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's because your edits came off as disruptive vandalism, and I had to undo those. Please don't blank pages like that again. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * But I didn't blank any content on the Channel Awesome page, and while I did initially blank content on the Toy Channels page, I restored it later, but you also reverted my other edit which wasn't blanking. FatBurn0000 (talk) 14:22, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And also, it wasn't vandalism, because the edits were in good faith. FatBurn0000 (talk) 14:24, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Then again, the blanking was unnecessary. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:35, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Still, why did you undo the edits that weren't blanking any content? FatBurn0000 (talk) 23:06, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, like I said, some of your edits were unnecessary, thus the reason why I reverted them. Please avoid page-blanking in the future. Thank you. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:53, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * But how were the edits "unnecessary"? FatBurn0000 (talk) 01:40, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Request #22310
Hello DMM! I saw that you declined this user's request here, because "he has requested too many wikis". While I agree with that, it currently he has only one wiki. This user is lost and doesn't know which wiki to edit, so I recommend you accept one of them (this recent one that shows the scope) to see their latest excuse. Thanks. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 22:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There was another reason behind it, but I'm not going to reveal that to you, as that is between me, and a few other admin groups. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 22:15, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course I know, he also told me. Even so, they are external problems, in my opinion, this shouldn't make a user not have a wiki of their own, even if he doesn't have any confidence. Also this is warning is benefit because maybe it will stop requesting wikis. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 22:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Request #22331
I am not saying you should decline that wiki request or delete that wiki now, but the wiki has the same topic as my wiki, making it a duplicate. <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 04:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There is nothing stating in the content policy that wikis with the same subject are prohibited (I think), and therefore he had no choice but to accept the request that has the clear scope. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 04:58, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it does appear to be a duplicate and thus in violation of the "A wiki must not create problems which make it difficult for other wikis" clause of the Content Policy. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:14, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A wiki that creates problems for another wiki has another meaning, that is: citing the wiki creating attacks/defaming. This does not include in the same topic. The requester perhaps, let alone DMM didn't know that this wiki of Anpang existed and requested the wiki of their interest, so the goal really isn't to create a concurrency here, this js accidental, and it doesn't apply here. --YellowFrogger (Talk — ✐) 05:23, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That specific Content Policy provision covers duplicate wikis and prohibits them and forks that are very similar in content, not just defamatory attacks. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think there should be a clarification of that in an updated content policy.
 * Also there's a conversation on discord about this too <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 05:35, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Anpang, what wiki is your wiki? I don't know if anyone's asked that here. In any case, to clarify, Content Policy doesn't prohibit two wikis from sharing the same topic or topics. That provision covers fork wikis; wikis which are made up of a substantial majority of copied content from an existing Miraheze wiki, with little or no changes to the content. A wiki creator should, if they know that we have a similar wiki covering the same topic, decline the wiki request as needing clarification in terms of the wiki's scope, in accordance with Content Policy. Additionally, as a recommended best practice, the wiki creator should also first invite users to continue contributing and requesting rights on that wiki. As well, as another recommended best practice, wiki creators should, if they don't know if we have a similar wiki, do a bit of very basic research to see whether we do. In any case and in this case, I suspect DarkMatterMan4500 did not know we had a similar wiki sharing this topic, so I thought I'd share these tips with him for the future. Dmehus (talk) 06:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * mh:space:Astronomy Wiki <span style="display:inline-block;border:2px solid #bfff00;border-radius:8px;background-image:linear-gradient(to bottom right, #75ff75, #ffff80)"> Anpang 📨 07:43, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, you'd be right about that. I either forgot that wiki was specifying about or didn't even know his wiki came into existence WAY before I approved that specified wiki request. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 11:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)