User talk:Dmehus

Templates
Hey Doug, I have seen various wikis using Miraheze having helpful templates (Announcements, Stubs, etc.) and was wondering if you could add them to my wiki. Thanks. PepperoniJustin 19:49, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Template documentation
Hi Doug, I have implemented a template documentation in the publictestwiki for demonstration purposes. To these two templates I have added the documention Template:RfP/boilerplate Template:Draft-section so you can see how it looks like. If you think this is useful I (or anyone else) can copy the template and the associated module to other Miraheze wikis. I have translated the text that is displayed in the template pages but not all the comments in the module, a native speaker may improve the translation. Before I spend a lot of time for translating the German comments to English I will make sure that this feature is wanted on Miraheze, if not I will save my time ;-) Lily (Manuela) (Lilypond Wiki · talk and I will listen · my little garden ) 17:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

interwiki/interlanguage prefixes
could you please set up interwiki and interlanguage prefixes on each of PetraWiki's wiki interwiki tables:
 * https://en.petrawiki.org/wiki/Main_Page ->
 * https://hr.petrawiki.org/wiki/Main_Page ->
 * https://files.petrawiki.org/wiki/Main_Page ->
 * https://translate.petrawiki.org/wiki/Main_Page ->

Also, who do I need to talk to in order to:
 * change the "Upload file" link of all PetraWiki's wikis to point to files.petrawiki.org upload-site (as described here)?
 * use files.petrawiki.org files in the other PetraWiki's wikis (as described here)? --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 22:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, do you want PetraWiki English to be the master interwiki prefix, with   and   added on (a) the other wiki or (b) all wikis? Also, will you require cross-wiki scary transclusion for any wiki? Dmehus (talk) 22:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't require transclusion for any of the wikis. Sorry, I didn't quite understand your first question, could you explain it to me little more? Thank you. --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 22:31, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I would like each PetraWiki wiki to have interwiki link to other PetraWiki wikis. I would like  to be master interwiki prefix for English PetraWiki as well as , and   for Croatian PetraWiki, language wikis to have link to   and   wiki,   and   wikis to have links to language wikis, and   and   to have link to each other. All wikis should have   (and  ) for English PetraWiki. I hope that answers your question (if I understood you and interwiki links correctly). :) --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 21:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Luka Ibrišimović Apologies for the delay in both replying to this message and handling it, but did you have a chance to take a look on all your wikis and see if the interwiki prefixes I added were all set up correctly? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 00:41, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize. I checked it out, it's perfect. Thank you very much! --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 12:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Luka Ibrišimović Oh, that's great. I guess I was mainly apologizing for not adding the requested shared repository upload navigation URLs mentioned briefly above and in #T6789 on Phabricator, as you're right I did complete the interwiki link requests fairly quickly. Regarding the latter, though, I noticed you didn't include  in your list of wikis that should have a common shared database file upload navigation URL specified. As I think you did mention that above, please let me know if you just missed including that on the Phabricator ticket, and I can process that request as well. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 12:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't forget about it, I just thought I wouldn't be needing it for . But now that you asked me, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to change $wgUploadNavigationUrl and $wgUploadMissingFileUrl for   as well. So if it's not too much trouble... Thank you! --Luka Ibrišimović (talk) 13:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit Collision
Please accept my apologies for the edit collision we had at Special:RequestWikiQueue/16446! --Integer talk 02:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Integer ; however, there's actually no need to apologize. It's quite funny that (a) we both used the same canned/prepared decline reason and (b) wiki creator conflicted at the same minute. If anything, I look at it is validation that our decline was correct. ;) Dmehus (talk) 02:33, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, a very interesting way to think about it, and too! Integer  talk 22:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Just a Friendly Note
You forgot to remove the flodder user group from yourself. As a result, your edits and logged actions are being marked as bot actions. :P 13:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


 * R4356th Thanks for the note. Well, not my edits, only log actions. In any case, this doesn't prevent visibility in Special:Log. I didn't forget to remove the, though, as I wasn't quite finished yet with deleting the translation subpages of the training modules we talked about (as it's a fair bit of work). I hope to finish that this morning. Dmehus (talk) 13:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. 🤔 Why are you removing those pages though? 13:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * R4356th Remember? I discussed it with you, Sabelöga, and Reception123, separately or individually, on Discord, and consensus was that the pages were only useful to system administrators, all of whom use English as their primary language, so this created an unnecessary amount of translation work for translators that would be better spent translating existing pages and keeping existing translation subpages up to date. Dmehus (talk) 13:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Um... that was related to the pages in the  namespace? Besides, there was consensus in the community in a pretty recent RfC that the Training Modules should be read by CVT, CoCC etc. as well.  14:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * R4356th Oh, I thought you and I had discussed whether the training modules needed to be translated, but perhaps it was just Sabelöga and Reception123. Though I'm not familiar with the RfC to which you refer, that doesn't change whether the training modules need to be translated. Dmehus (talk) 14:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Discussion continued on Discord. 15:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Following the discussion on the Administrators noticeboard
Could you edit the translation tags on the main page to be on the same row as the bulleted lists as that aligns them properly? That way we can avoid outdated and missing translations from looking like this. --Sabelöga (talk) 14:07, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Any interest in this? Sabelöga (talk) 19:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sabelöga Well, the result from the discussion at Administrators' noticeboard to which you refer is that this is an upstream bug related to the Translate and best resolved through filing a ticket on Wikimedia Phabricator, unless you mean there's some specific improvement on that specific page. If the latter is the case, can you please state exactly and clearly what you want you want to be changed in the format of "change  to  " so it's clear on exactly what needs to be changed? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 19:43, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

What I mean is that I want you to move all the bullet point to the same same row, and not on seperate as it is now. Just as I did on Meta:Wiki creators guide. This fixes the problem, or at least it did on that page, so I assume it will here too. I have no idea what upstream bug would create this.

Basically move:

Text to: on the Main Page.
 * 1) Text

Or for even more simplicity, just copy this into the Main Page, that should do it. --Sabelöga (talk) 16:45, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the clarification, but I'm not satisfied with this proposed fix, particularly with using, which seems to a bit of a hacky fix, to be quite honest. I'm open to considering other potential fixes or workarounds, but this isn't it, I don't think. It's also not particularly onerous for translators to remove the FuzzyBot-added  s, as they've been doing it for more than five years without any issues. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 16:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ignore the "pre" tags. They're just there to show how it would look like in code. The issue here is that the code in translations (not on the original) actually differentiates between text on the same row as a bullet point and text that's just on the next row. The original page with all the "translate" tags don't differentiate between on the bullet point and on the next row, but when fuzzy bot starts adding this "div" tag  the code (on the translated pages) starts differentiating between text when it's on the bullet point and when it's on the next row. That's why things get broken up as they do and why it is important for translation administrators to keep text on the bullet point and not on the next row.
 * I know this will work since I did the exact same thing on Wiki creators guide and I don't see any reason why the same thing won't have an effect here. If there's any reason it won't work here I'd like to know why. Sabelöga (talk) 17:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, I'm okay with this then, since you said to ignore the  tags. I tried to implement the fix, but got Translate extension syntax errors beginning at "Free of charge," and I'm not sure how to resolve that. I tried to copy and paste Main Page into your userspace for you to fix, but got the same thing. So if you'll markup the wikitext for me and post in a pastebin, I'll implement the fix, attributing you via an edit summary. Dmehus (talk) 17:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * User:Sabelöga/Test this doesn't give any errors, this should work. Sabelöga (talk) 17:39, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Any success? Or did this not work? Sabelöga (talk) 15:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I can't get it to work. I'll try and take another look in another week or so. Dmehus (talk) 16:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay Sabelöga (talk) 12:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, it is me BurningPrincess1/TheBurningPrincess. I requested my acct be unlocked on IRC TheBurningPrincess (talk) 18:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, and thanks. Dmehus (talk) 18:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Regarding Special:RequestWikiQueue/16566
Why were you so interested in approving the above mentioned wiki request despite me mentioning that a similar wiki already exists? The requester could had easily adopted it. Please reply here and not privately on Discord. Thank you. 14:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * R4356th As I said in the request,  was apparently a good-faith wiki with no actual content. Lots of users have ideas to create wikis, but never follow through. As the requests for adoption process is a time-consuming process and since this wiki has no actual content, it seems rather bureaucratic to ask Loisya to go through a full adoption request just to adopt a wiki that has no more content than a brand new wiki. Nevertheless, I get your thinking, but in this case, common sense prevails here. Dmehus (talk) 14:43, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed but I still think going through the RfA process would have been better and could had prevented a wiki from being deleted and replaced with a new one. It would had also allowed Stewards to assess Loisya. 15:16, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you mean by "allow[ing] Stewards to assess Loisya." We don't really assess the user in an adoption request; we assess their contributions. As to the RfA process, while it is nice if we can prevent wikis from being deleted, that's really more about preserving wikis that have actual content, to ensure the content is kept updated, expanded on, maintained, and the wiki generally kept free of spam and vandalism. To be clear though, I do like that you are looking at whether we have similar wikis in your assessment of wiki requests, and I try and do that as well&mdash;including with English Wikipedia fork wikis, to see if users may want to request permissions on and contribute to one one of many English Wikipedia fork wikis we have. As well, it's also helpful to check the RequestWikiQueue to see whether the user previously requested the same, or similar, wiki, that has since been either closed or undeleted. I've found a few wikis that way in which I was able to assist the user with reopening their wiki or with undeleting the wiki for them. Hope that clarifies it a bit, and thank you for your question. Dmehus (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * "We don't really assess the user in an adoption request; we assess their contributions." - which is exactly what I said. "As to the RfA process, while it is nice if we can prevent wikis from being deleted, that's really more about preserving wikis that have actual content, to ensure the content is kept updated, expanded on, maintained, and the wiki generally kept free of spam and vandalism." I did adopt the Women in Tech Wiki which had 0 edits when I requested the wiki. "To be clear though, I do like that you are looking at whether we have similar wikis in your assessment of wiki requests, and I try and do that as well—including with English Wikipedia fork wikis, to see if users may want to request permissions on and contribute to one one of many English Wikipedia fork wikis we have." Check this out. ;) 19:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, to be fair, you did say "[i]t would also allowed Stewards to asses Loisya," but perhaps you meant to include contributions following Loisya? To your other point, yeah, that API result is quite neat and potentially quite useful. Dmehus (talk) 19:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * "you did say "[i]t would also allowed Stewards to asses Loisya," but perhaps you meant to include contributions following Loisya?" Yes, exactly. 05:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi there.
Is there any way to get templates onto the site that I requested earlier? --Loisya (talk) 16:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Loisya Hi, welcome to Miraheze and to Meta Wiki, the central coordination wiki. To your question, there is Miraheze Template Wiki, which is probably the best source of (mostly) de-Wikipedia-ifyed templates, which you can either use Special:Export (on that wiki) and Special:Import (on your wiki) or transwiki import, selecting "templatewiki" from the drop-down box. In your edit summary, be sure to link to, replacing   with the namespace from which you're importing. You may wish to import only the current revision, to prevent 503 errors. Alternatively, if you want to import all revisions, I'd recommend importing the templates or modules one by one, referring to the   ("page information") for any template/module dependencies. If using the Special:Export and Special:Import method, you'll need to use an interwiki prefix from your wiki's interwiki table (whether local or global), to ensure contributions are properly associated to the respective external users. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 16:14, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

A question:
What can I do to also help this wiki out, as I have been the most active contributor across the wikis? Feel free to drop me at least a few tips when you get the chance, as I am getting tired right now, and won't be to answer you right away as my timezone here is 9:46PM at this time. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Consultation
Thank you for sending me an email. However, I haven't received the email. I tried from meta's personal settings to send a password reset email for the test, but I did not receive the email. I've been in the junk mail folder several times before, so I searched for it, but this time it doesn't seem to be found. I'm sorry I didn't receive the email I received. --松•Matsu (talk) 03:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Since it is also used for resetting the password, I changed the email address registered in miraheze to a receivable address. I changed my email address, but it seems that I can now receive it--松•Matsu (talk) 09:39, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * 松 Hrm, strange. It's good that you received the automatically generated password reset e-mail, but that still doesn't explain why you couldn't receive it at your other, current registered and valid e-mail address. Also, the fact that both you and and I cannot apparently receive e-mail messages sent through the Special:EmailUser suggests something is broken. I raised the issue with Site Reliability Engineers on IRC in, as I strongly suspect something hasn't been configured correctly in the server migration. Dmehus (talk) 13:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I also changed the end of @, so I thought it might be a junk mail filter, but I check it with a browser, no mail remains in the junk folder, the filter may not be the cause. 松•Matsu (talk) 14:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

$wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages
add $wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages for skins modified in c.s.s. appear on the preference pages, this was the problem.

however, you can choose to put it exclusively on the wiki: https://onibus.miraheze.org/ if you don't want to deploy it at all --YellowFrogger (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger I don't believe this is in ManageWiki, mainly for security reasons. So, this would need a GitHub pull request on the  to enable this on your wiki. While it's possible to do, I do know that Universal Omega was able to customize his Cosmos skin for special pages, so that's perhaps the better venue&mdash;that is, for you to request specific CSS be implemented within the desired skin(s) your wiki is using? Otherwise, if not, can you say what your reason(s) are for wanting to add custom CSS to restricted special pages? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger: this is not possible, even through LocalSettings.php for security reasons. 18:08, 11 February 2021 (UTC) ］ |
 * @Universal Omega: MediaWiki says you have to also put $wgMFSiteStylesRenderBlocking if mobilefrontend is activated. I think it is possible, because wikis like: https://runescape.wiki/ and https://www.grandtheftwiki.com modify by css and appear on these restricted pages.
 * I think I saw no problem with my CSS, and I think you can put settings exclusively on a wiki, to avoid problems. But this was a request. --YellowFrogger (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus: I'm asking, because I find it strange, with a modified theme, and it gives the user an impression that the wiki is slow. And CollapsibeVector is also wrong on the common vector, and I fixed it.
 * I didn't find any security issues in the CSS.
 * MediaWiki says: "By default, the site's CSS customizations (for example, MediaWiki: Common.css) have no effect on the login and preferences pages. This preserves the security of the login process and allows users to remove any unwanted customizations without being interfered with. If you are not concerned about security risks, you can use the $ wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPagesconfiguration setting to allow custom CSS to work on these pages ". --YellowFrogger (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger Are those wikis above hosted by Miraheze? If so, then it may be possible for us customize  for you. I'm normally a little more liberal for security-related exceptions than some others, but I can see strong likelihood for serious security exploits by allowing CSS and JS on special pages. While I can see adding Internet Archive to the CSP whitelist, for example, I do agree with Universal Omega that we should not be allowing site CSS on restricted pages. That's good you were able to fix CollapsibleVector, though! :) Dmehus (talk) 18:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * They are not, they are independent. But note that they use skins modified in CSS, which still appear on restricted pages.
 * The CSS I want to appear is: https://onibus.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css. This, like Common.css, did not present any major security risk, without the fatal error "X", no HTTP link image. In addition, only bureaucrats, and interface administrators can modify CSS / JS pages, and only I will be under these privileges. If you place / deploy now, I will like YellowFrogger (talk) 19:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * @Dmehus: Can you put it through LocalSettings.php? The skin I modified is Vector, so the customizable CSS is at: [onibus.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css]. I hadn't seen your message about it, so responding now. YellowFrogger (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger While I don't doubt that your CSS is fine, the reality is that we have no control over who is appointed as a local interface administrator or bureaucrat on local wikis, and we don't have the global manpower to routinely monitor the CSS and JS of every wiki. So while somewhat of a blunt instrument, instances where the likelihood of serious XSS exploits and security vulnerabilities are high, we have to restrict or disallow certain MediaWiki configurations. Thus, you will need to reach out to a system administrator, such as Universal Omega, to obtain approval before the PR can be done. I would suggest you reach out to someone like Reception123, as the Engineering Manager (MediaWiki), or Southparkfan, as the Director of the Site Reliability Engineering team. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:26, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus OK thank you. But how will I talk to them? they don't seem to be as active as you are, and I will try on the discussion page YellowFrogger (talk) 00:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger While they may not be as active as me on-wiki, they're around. Reception123 may be reluctant to approve, so I would recommend reaching out to Southparkfan at User talk:Southparkfan (his user talk page). You may have to wait up to a week for a response, but if you outline a well articulated use case and link to this thread, I think there's at least a chance you may have success. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus I asked the question there .. YellowFrogger (talk) 00:59, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dmehus Hi...The user you referred to me has not made a contribution for 20 days. Are you sure it is active? indicated and provided at least 7 days to respond. --YellowFrogger (talk) 02:13, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * YellowFrogger I'll try and reach out to Southparkfan and have him respond to his message(s) on his user talk page. Dmehus (talk) 02:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * He doesn't answer, he probably ignored it, because he made a change today on the wiki YellowFrogger (talk) 04:11, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a technical matter, and therefore should be addressed on phabricator as opposed to individual user's talk pages. There are other individuals qualified to answer this question who probably would only see it if you make the request there. -- Void  Whispers 04:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Void Yes, I agree that Phabricator would normally be the better venue for this, but since it is security-related and since Universal Omega had reservations about it, I referred YellowFrogger up to Southparkfan as it would've likely needed Southparkfan's approval anyway as I doubt any other SRE team member would've approved it without Southparkfan signing off on it, so that's why I referred YellowFrogger to Southparkfan. Dmehus (talk) 13:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * And how to open a topic in Phabricator? YellowFrogger (talk) 23:51, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I personally wouldn't recommend opening a request on Phabricator, given that only Southparkfan would be able to approve the request, per my comments and Universal Omega's comments above. Instead, I would recommend you e-mail Southparkfan at, stating the name and URL to/of your wiki, linking this discussion, and providing your reason for requesting this. Ask Southparkfan if he'd be willing to entertain this request and, if so, then file the task on Phabricator. That way, if he says a flat no, you've not wasted your time with the Phabricator request. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 00:27, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I sent a message to him southparkfan@undefinedmiraheze.org via email from onibuswiki@undefinedgmail.com yesterday How long do you think he has to reply? YellowFrogger (talk) 20:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅!. Southparkfan is usually most active on weekends, so I would give him until Monday to reply. If you haven't heard from him by then, ping me on a reply here and I'll gently poke him to take a look. Dmehus (talk) 20:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello ... miraheze is a good wikifarm platform, ad-free, original skin. so you should respect the user’s request a little. It is walking for 1 month to carry out this topic and my problem is not solved. And the southparkfan? he does not answer the email, much less the talk page. It is really cautious for an unknown user to place an order, but the Vector css from onibuswiki xmis clearly not wrong. You can see the content of the site as it is taken seriously, now a question: why did I do all this just to give users a lack of security? Just go there and implement the $ wg, as well as the $ wg and extensions that miraheze has been planting, however, exclusively for that site, and do what you said in the southparkfan user talk, ready, end of the bad CollapseVector. and I will put only administrators of the interface to modify the css
 * Thanks YellowFrogger (talk) 14:42, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Wiki creator
Hey, Dmehus! I came to ask about the wiki creator rights that was talked about about three weeks ago. I will ask my question in short form, i.e. when would I get to the user group "wiki creator"? It would interest me a lot! I look forward to your reply. Thank you. --Anton (talk) 17:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Anton Yes, I haven't forgotten about your interest. There's a lot of activities going on right now. We do have wikis being created in line with our service level expectations, so if I could just ask you to please keep translating and helping out on TestWiki for two to three more weeks until I have more time to prepare some wiki creator-type situation based questions for you, that'd be much appreciated. Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 18:51, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course, I do my best translations! I understand your hurry. I, too, have been a little busy, when you dedicate your wiki family and I have been by constructing. Now it would be time to translate the pages so maybe I'll go from here to translate. Thanks to you too. Anton (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I hope I am not to much of a "talk-page stalker" but maybe if you have not already done it I could suggest to you that you read Wiki creators and the Content Policy so that you can prepare for the questions Dmehus wants to ask you and also for the role of wiki creator if you end up being successful in your endeavor. If it is fine I am also curious, what languages do you know? DeeM28 (talk) 16:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Anton To add to what DeeM28 said, if it helps, you could engage with Reception123 to prepare you some situation-based questions for wiki creator. In addition to what DeeM28 recommended reading, I would also recommend you read Wiki creators guide. Though not required reading for wiki creators, you may encounter previously closed or deleted wikis in reviewing wiki requests, so an understanding of Dormancy Policy is also helpful to wiki creators. Dmehus (talk) 18:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

planned interwiki administrator reform RfC
Hi Dmehus. I come back to you as I remember a few months ago in December you mentioned via Stewards Noticeboard that you were planning to do a RfC about interwiki administrators during the first quarter of the year 2021. I am curious if you have any updates about that RfC and if you plan on preparing a draft for it soon. If that is not in your plans I would be happy to assist you with it if you would like. DeeM28 (talk) 12:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * DeeM28 Thank you for your note. Indeed, an interwiki administration RfC was, and is still is, planned; however, there's a fair bit of things going on right now, so its timeline has been back to sometime in the spring 2021 quarter, I'd expect. For example, the board of directors of Miraheze Limited has approved moving Terms of Use enforcement out of the Site Reliability Engineering's scope of authority and into a new board-approved and -managed Trust & Safety group (exact name has not been finalized). As well, we also want to hold a community director election, which involves several steps. Finally, some proposed amendments to Dormancy Policy may take precedence over this draft RfC. There's also less urgency to it, since it's been clarified since Meta administrators are specifically allowed in policy to edit the global interwiki table on Meta, and established conventions and practices are guiding us in this regard. Additionally, the policy does not limit the number of interwiki administrators there may be, so the only real things I'd rather clarify is to lower the requirements for local interwiki administrator and to decide on whether to use Meta Wiki or Loginwiki for the global interwiki table. Nevertheless, not to worry, it will be proposed at some point, but just not yet. Dmehus (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your very detailed response. I am looking forward to it and understand that as a steward you are busy and have many responsibilities. DeeM28 (talk) 18:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, DeeM28, for your understanding, and I'm very much looking forward to that RfC, as well as other planned RfCs and discussions, later this year. You can expect a full year's worth of community discussions in which to participate. There will also be at least a couple of local community discussions/RfCs on Miraheze Commons and Miraheze Template Wiki later this year that I am planning, though I'm not sure if you participate in those, but will keep you updated if you want. Dmehus (talk) 18:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

fandom move Miraheze
Hi, how can I fandom move Miraheze wiki data?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 01:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Msnhinet8 Thank you for your question. It's a little unclear on what you mean, but I've assumed you're wondering how to migrate your wiki from a Fandom wiki to a Miraheze wiki. First of all, you will need to grab an XML export of your Fandom wiki, then you will need to file a Phabricator task requesting system administrators import your XML. Be sure to ask system administrators to specify the  parameter as either   or   where   is the subdomain portion of  . Note that this will not import your images; you will generally have to download those individually and then reupload them to your Miraheze wiki; however, you can enable the MsUpload extension to help the process go more smoothly and quickly. You may also wish to review Moving a wiki to Miraheze, too. Hope that answers your question. Dmehus (talk) 02:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ok, thanks.
 * you can help me my 網路百科 domain change zh-tw.internetpedia.miraheze.org? --Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Msnhinet8 Not sure what you mean, but if you want to change your wiki's subdomain from  to something else, this is possible; however, it's actually a system administrator task as it requires changing your wiki's database name. So, you will need to file a Phabricator task for that, too. In simple terms, if it can be done in ManageWiki or on-wiki, Stewards are who you need to ask; if it requires a maintenance script to be run or a change to your wiki's database name, system administrators are who you need to ask. Note, too, that wiki subdomains cannot contain non-alphanumeric characters. So, you could change it to zhtwinternetpedia.miraheze.org but not  . You can also request a custom domain, so you could possibly have   redirect to , but I personally don't think you'd be able to have the former be your primary wiki address. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:28, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 03:34, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * hi, if change https://internetpedia.miraheze.org/zh-tw this domain? can?--Msnhinet8 (talk) 11:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Msnhinet8 While it might be technically possible, this change isn't a DNS issue, and would like require adding a custom virtual host alias to nginx (Miraheze's web server software). Even then, it would just bee an alias for https://internetpedia.miraheze/wiki/, essentially. I will ask Paladox, John, and Reception123, three system administrators, for you; however, I suspect it's not something they'd likely want to entertain. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 15:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. --Msnhinet8 (talk) 23:16, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Request
Hello,

Please contact me as soon as you are available on IRC.

Thanks, ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  12:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Noting that this was ✅ ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  19:43, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 23:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Recent locks
Hello, where is spam evidence for this or this user?--MrJaroslavik (talk) 16:54, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


 * MrJaroslavik Thank you for the question. In regards to those users, not all spam only accounts actually spam the abuse logs or create obvious spam pages or spam only account user pages. Some are often sleeper accounts, created for later spamming or attempted spamming purposes. These locks were done following the precendent of Reception123 and others based on their usernames alone (i.e., usernames that reference erectile dysfunction remedies, prescription drug names or brand names, etc.). Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 17:35, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Checkuser request
HI

Could you put me as CheckUser on, I have more than 5,000 editions and 30 days of activity there, here at META too, so I don't edit here.

Reason: See the tool and check a suspicious user

✔️I declare that, I do this in good faith. And I know the policies and terms of use for wikis --YellowFrogger (talk) 01:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * YellowFrogger Because the CheckUser, as well as the Oversight, tool(s) provide access personally identifying information, these are restricted user groups. While it is in theory possible for two local wiki bureaucrats to undergo separate local elections that meet the requirements of Stewardship for said user groups on a local wiki, in practice, your best bet is to simply request a Steward conduct an investigation, linking to specific diffs as compelling behavioural evidence that user accounts policy, or an appropriate other global policy, is likely to have been violated. You can make said reports via stewards' noticeboard or, alternatively, via on IRC. Similarly, requests for suppression of specific revisions can be requested by Stewards, but, unlike the former, this should never never be posted or requested publicly and instead e-mailed to  . Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:48, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Tankipedia
Do you to want to make page, edits and upload files on Tankipedia? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:01, 22 February 2021 (UTC) I made the Tankipedia page, and it’s called “Local fang-e....”, I did what you said and now I will show you, click on the link. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * plus, are you going to make me re-staff again on Tankipedia? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:01, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ThomasTheTrainFan2 Unfortunately, the only way for you to obtain  and   rights on your   is for you to hold a local election. Please this local election page on   for how straightforward your local election page can be. After five to seven days from the start of your election, come back here and ping me to assess your election and grant rights. How's that? Dmehus (talk) 22:07, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking for this , but I don’t know what a local election is, do it in the   you,   can explain, and the a**ess too. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:20, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ThomasTheTrainFan2 Well, you could just copy (and modify/adapt for your wiki and election) the wikitext of that example page (excluding the closing Steward's comments, of course) I showed you above, start a new page in your, and paste it into your wiki. As a best practice, in your page creation edit summary, write:   to ensure you're compliant with CreativeCommons attribution rules. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 22:24, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


 * ThomasTheTrainFan2 That LGTM, but you need to replace the "candidate" and "election" timeframe sections with your election. Also, you need to remove the closing Steward's comments, as that was from the other wiki's election. Dmehus (talk) 20:00, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed the comments. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 20:04, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That's good, but you still need to take out, "DesertWolf for both positions," and replace that with "ThomasTheTrainFan2 for both positions." You also need to update date your election started, replacing 4 February 2021 with 23 February 2021. I will then assess your election and grant rights accordingly on or around 2 March 2021. Dmehus (talk) 20:07, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oof! ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 20:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, the local election page does have to be accurate, otherwise you'd end up electing the wrong user to those positions. So, I do recommend making those changes so the local election can start. Dmehus (talk) 20:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don’t know what you mean? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 20:18, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * are you going to respond? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Your local election looks good. Now you just have to let your election run. Remind me on 2 March 2021 by replying here, not before, to assess your election and grant rights. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 22:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * March is my birthday month. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 22:50, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Um, local um...I don’t know what to say...um, turn me, my local is running. Please turn into  on Tankipedia. please. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 19:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I blocked ThomasTheTrainFan, my first user but lost password. Yup I'm moving to ThomasTheTrainFan2. See you on Tankipedia 🙂. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * How can I change the theme on Tankipedia? ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ThomasTheTrainFan2 If you mean setting your wiki's default skin users will see, this can be done in Special:ManageWiki/extensions, selecting the "Skins" tab. You may also need to set something in Special:ManageWiki/settings. If you want to customize the style or colours of your wiki, this involves modifying your wiki's MediaWiki:Common.css file, for which I am not the best subject matter expert, and so I would recommend joining us on either Discord or IRC at . Hope this helps. Dmehus (talk) 01:47, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I just got rid of the logo, I can’t do it, can I request it?
 * logo is Tankipedia TP logo.png
 * color is #00FFFF
 * —- ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk)
 * I'm not quite sure what you mean, you can either (a) upload a new version of the logo or (b) upload a brand new file, sized to 135x135px and then update the  parameter in Special:ManageWiki/settings. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, I will try. ThomasTheTrainFan2 22:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

You forgot about Ihatelynnloudjrforlife, also known as the main account:
Ihatelynnloudjrforlife is the main account for Ihatelynnloudjr2. If Ihatelynnloudjr2 self-requested a global lock, wouldn't it make sense to lock up the rest of the accounts according to this request here? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 17:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I didn't forget about it. There is not behavioural evidence that Ihatelynnloudjrforlife that is related to Ihatelynnloudjr2. Having a similar username does not necessarily mean the users are related. Dmehus (talk) 18:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. So there was nothing on that user either. Well, I guess I should let bygones be bygones. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Can you lock Dopictures and perform a CheckUser test to see if Corinne The Mermaid Of The Dreams is his sock?
What both Dopictures and Corinne The Mermaid Of The Dreams did was unacceptable. They vandalized the Woody Woodpecker (2017) page on Loathsome Characters Wiki and no action has been taken on this yet on the wiki. - Trashanimal (talk) 21:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Trashanimal I'm not seeing enough similarity between those two users in the edits you referenced. I have, however, reverted the vandalism on that that page on  for you, and additionally protected the page at   for one week. As you seem to be active on that wiki, you might also want to reach out to DarkMatterMan4500 to request   and/or   rights, which would be helpful for you in reverting vandalism. Dmehus (talk) 21:54, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Wiki request being weird
My wiki request isn't doing anything when I hit edit/comment, just reloading, so could the name be changed to "infobox-playground.miraheze.org" and "Infobox/Template Playground" to make it not generic per your comment? Thanks. Arcversin (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Arcversin Well, it could be because non-alphanumeric characters aren't permitted in wiki subdomains, as far as I'm aware. However, your subdomain still suggest this is an infobox sandbox/experimentation wiki. If wanting to experiment, why not use Public Test Wiki, requesting administrator permissions that would allow you to develop infoboxes in either template or user namespaces? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for Removing the User Group from me
I am done fixing the lint errors and dealing with the wanted categories for today. :) 18:48, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


 * R4356th ✅, and thank you for your assistance with fixing the lint errors today. That's tedious work. I noticed your edits had the little  flag on them, though. Did you edit through the API, or use AutoWikiBrowser? If the latter, I'm thinking I really should use AutoWikiBrowser for my WikiGnoming if it allows that. I didn't think AWB allowed that, though. Feel free to request the   when you need it in the future, as sometimes we forget to add it or don't see it. Dmehus (talk) 18:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I just realized I accidentally said that the request on your user talk page instead of my user talk page. Should I do make a dummy log summary to correct that? Dmehus (talk) 18:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * "Did you edit through the API, or use AutoWikiBrowser?" Nope, just the plain old core editing interface. :) "Should I do make a dummy log summary to correct that?" It depends on you. 18:59, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. If you're not fussed with the log summary, I'll just leave it as it does link to your diff. Dmehus (talk) 19:03, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

hey, DougHuz
I’m telling you that Tankipedia will be the future of writing and teaching and telling about Thomas the Tank Engine. did you remember that train. ThomasTheTrainFan2 (talk) 01:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

guarddogzpit forgot my password
Hi I'm guarddogzpit. I lost my password. Sorry. This is my ip though. Guarddogzpit (talk) 02:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Guarddogzpit Please go to Special:UserLogin and request a password reset to your registered, confirmed e-mail address on file. If you do not have an e-mail address associated to your account, please try and recall your password; otherwise, you will need to create a new account, and hold a local election on your recently created wiki to be given rights on your new account. Dmehus (talk) 02:17, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm back Dmehus. It was bad gateway for some odd reason. Thnx for helping out. Could you help format my wiki to Gazetteer of wikis as I can't for some reason? Thnx. Guarddogzpit (talk) 02:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Guarddogzpit Ah, okay, yeah system administrator Paladox was doing some work there, but got that corrected. Anyway, glad you were able to login again. Thank goodness! Anyway, sure, I will format your link at Gazetteer of wikis for you. Dmehus (talk) 02:37, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Bugsworld miraheze is not growing. I don't want to give up on it yet. Any help? Guarddogzpit (talk) 01:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help
I want to delete all the MediaWiki pages of my personal wiki. These are experimental from other wikis I imported. Now I don't need it, it's hard to delete by hand, so you need help. ~SHEKH (Talk) 02:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SHEKH Have you tried seeing if they are recent enough for Special:Nuke to work? Oh wait, they're imports, so that won't work. You will need to file a Phabricator task and request the  be run on your wiki. System administrators should do it within 24-48 hours. Dmehus (talk) 02:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't understand how to file a Phabricator task. So I would be very happy if you could do it for me ~SHEKH (Talk) 21:42, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll do it for you and link you on the request. Dmehus (talk) 21:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Please follow along on the Phabricator ticket. Thanks! :) Dmehus (talk) 21:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks ~SHEKH (Talk) 17:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 17:29, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Want to change the name
I want to change my name from User:SHEKH to User:SHEIKH. because; The spelling of the current name is wrong, I want to fix it. ~SHEKH (Talk) 17:16, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * SHEKH While I could process your rename request with this diff, would you be able to go into Special:GlobalRenameRequest and request this, stating that you intend to use this name for the long-term? Thank you. Dmehus (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I've applied, now you can change the name. Thank you ~SHEKH (Talk) 17:54, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

About merging my account
So about a week ago I asked if it was possible to unattach my account from numerous wikis, and you and RhinosF1 told me that the reason needs to be strong enough. I responded with my reason, but never got a response. Here's my response and reason for wanting to unattach my account from some wikis: "The reason why I’m wanting to unattach some wikis is because they’re either closed wikis or wikis I have no plans to ever revisit, so that way those wikis don’t clutter my global account info and make it a bit easier to navigate. Is that a good enough reason?" --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 21:42, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * DeciduousWater534 I mean, from my perspective, that's a reasonable request for unattaching some accounts from one global account and merging and attaching them into another global account, as we do accept global rename requests for virtually any reason. Looking at your global attached accounts, though, was actually surprised that you only had 54 attached wikis, so I don't really see a particularly cluttered global accounts listing. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 21:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Alright, so where do I go to make this request (provided the total number of attached accounts isn't too low)? --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 05:25, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It is quite low, but it's also a very low priority. This is fine for the purposes of the request, but I have some other more pressing things to take care of, and can take a look at this in a couple weeks, if that's alright? I'll reach out to you on Discord closer to that timeframe. Dmehus (talk) 06:25, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I can wait. I'm in no big rush to get this done. --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 02:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Sidebar
Hi, sorry for sending you a message about this – I don't know what the right place would be. I see the weird text "miraheze-sidebar-Donate" in the sidebar. Below that is the Donate link. That text should probably be changed, and I guess it comes from the MediaWiki namespace, or MediaWiki:Miraheze-sidebar-donate. You should probably write something like "Donate to Miraheze" or "Donations" etc. Or is this "bug" only visible to me? Thank you. --Anton (talk) 06:21, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Anton No, I see it as well, and I'm not quite sure exactly what is wrong. I've referenced the new Miraheze Magic interface message in MediaWiki:Sidebar, but that seems not to have resolved it. I'm wondering if it's a matter of it being about a one week delay until the messages are uploaded to translatewiki.net, perhaps? Dmehus (talk) 06:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Could you create that MediaWiki page I just said? Maybe it will help?  I can also take the matter to Phabricator if it doesn't work, and if it doesn't work then would you delete it MediaWiki page? --Anton (talk) 06:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Anton Well, I'd prefer not to do that, as the whole point of MirahezeMagic interface messages are to reduce the need to create local interface message overrides. It should be resolved by Sunday. If not, I'll have a system administrator revert that commit as something is likely broken. Dmehus (talk) 06:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Okay. Write **Donations to MediaWiki:Sidebar and delete "miraheze-sidebar-donate"? --Anton (talk) 06:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ until the translatewiki.net interface messages are pushed. Dmehus (talk) 06:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

My talk page
Hi. I noticed you deleted my talk page because it was getting spam. I just wanted to let you know that that user has had interactions with me on a different site. But I've been getting email notifications of her messages, and I know that they're spam so I'm not asking you to restore them. Cg098 (talk) 18:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Cg098 Thank you for the follow up and clarification that you do appreciate the unsolicited messages having been deleted. Please feel free to reach out if you receive further unsolicited communications from this user (on Miraheze or Miraheze-related platforms). Dmehus (talk) 19:37, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Closure
Hello - we talked on Discord. I would like for my Venkon Miraheze to be closed permanently and not placed for anybody to adopt, please. Reasons being minimal content, conflict, and more. Here is a link: https://venkon.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page

Thank you. --IM STILL ALIVE (talk) 23:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


 * IM STILL ALIVE Though we normally prefer to have wikis closed in accordance with Dormancy Policy, in your case, the  appears to be prevented from going inactive because of user account creations (possibly spam only accounts). In any case, since you are the only contributor to the wiki and because the wiki appeared to contain highly personal contents, this is ✅. Dmehus (talk) 23:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Help me
Hi, I can't login my personal Wiki shekh.miraheze.org, When logging in, the text comes The supplied credentials could not be authenticated. But I was able to log in to another wiki. Please help me. ~SHEIKH (Talk) 07:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * It looks like you're logged into this wiki. Can you please try visiting your wiki again? While not exactly the error I would've thought it might be, you might try clearing all your Miraheze cookies, as well as any Miraheze cookies associated to custom domains. Then, from Loginwiki in incognito mode, go to Special:UserLogin and Special:UserLogout. Once that's done, clear your cookies for  and any custom domains hosted by Miraheze, then login again, and you should be good to go. Dmehus (talk) 08:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The same problem is visible even after you work the way you said it. ~SHEIKH</b> (Talk) 08:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SHEIKH Hrm, I'm not sure. Do you have two-factor authentication enabled on your account and, if so, have you assigned the applicable local user rights allowing you to use two-factor authentication on your local ? Dmehus (talk) 14:44, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't have two-factor authentication turned on. Well, can I never login like i used to? ~SHEIKH</b> (Talk) 15:21, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SHEIKH Hrm, that's strange, I'm not sure then. Can you please file a Phabricator task then, including a screenshot of the exact error message(s) you're receiving on which wiki(s) the problem occurs? Be sure to obfuscate or otherwise black out/redact any personally identifying information (i.e., hash tokens, IP addresses, etc.; your wiki username is obviously fine) as may be visible before uploading your screenshot. You should also link to this discussion on my user talk page, so system administrators have sufficient context in determining what has been attempted. Dmehus (talk) 15:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Brother, I have no idea about my Fabricator ticket so I have given you a message, or I would have opened the ticket in the Fabricator earlier. Shall I mail you a screenshot of my problem? You can tell you what's needed, I'm giving it. ~SHEIKH</b> (Talk) 17:05, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SHEIKH No, that's not necessary. Phabricator is the technical support ticketing system for raising technical issues which can't be resolved on-wiki by Stewards, Interwiki Administrators, or other functionaries. In this case, I've exhausted possible options as to any on-wiki causes, so system administrators will need to investigate this for you. You can create a Phabricator by clicking that link, and then on the signup or login page, sign in using your MediaWiki login credentials on Miraheze. This will use OAuth on Meta. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 17:12, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * What happened to it. ~SHEIKH</b> (Talk) 18:13, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. I've added a comment to the ticket on Phabricator. Let's follow along there. Would you also like a system administrator to rename your Phabricator account to SHEIKH from SHEKH? Those are not done with standard on-wiki global rename requests and have to be requested separately. Dmehus (talk) 18:28, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This is now ✅. Please see my comment on Phab for the cause and fix. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  23:38, 11 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you, the problem has been solved, I've been able to login. I want to know why this happened. I want to know more. How do I change the name in the Fabricator? ~SHEIKH</b> (Talk) 00:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SHEIKH The short answer is it was a Miraheze configuration issue with the HAWelcome extension's default system user name being set to the sitename of your wiki. When your global rename from SHEKH to SHEIKH was processed, this posed a problem. So, Universal Omega has implemented a fix to set the default value for the HAWelcome extension system user to HAWelcome rather than the sitename. An explanatory note has also been added to Special:ManageWiki/settings for the  MediaWiki variable. Regarding changing your Phabricator username, you can request this on Phabricator. I'll open a ticket for you? Dmehus (talk) 00:11, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SHEIKH Phabricator ticket #T6948 has opened requesting your Phabricator username be changed from SHEKH to SHEIKH. A Phabricator administrator should be able to process this for you. Dmehus (talk) 00:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I get a solution from you on any problem, so thank you and love for you. — <span style="background:linear-gradient(#ff0000,#228b22);padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"> SHEIKH  (Talk)  00:45, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SHEIKH ✅! My pleasure, and happy to help. :) Dmehus (talk) 01:22, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Bugsworld
Is it on public? I guess no one is interested on bugs. Guarddogzpit (talk) 00:14, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I am responsible for my own interest on behalf of Dmehus. What do you mean? Is that (Bugsworld) a wiki? Or is there a bug somewhere in the wiki? Of course we are interested if there is a bug somewhere. Anton (talk) 17:50, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Anton I believe Guarddogzpit means their Bugsworld wiki and is seeking tips on how to invite and encourage users to edit their specialized encyclopedia wiki on bugs. Dmehus (talk) 18:18, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Template redirects
As you put as a reason for deletion, I did those template redirects only for a good purpose. The intention was just to make it easier to find the right template when a vandal visited here this morning and I didn’t immediately try to find the right warning template on its talk page. But I still understand Miraheze and you well, so I don’t mind even deleting the templates. Thanks for that :) --Anton (talk) 17:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Anton No problem at all. I figured why you probably created them, coming from the Wikimedia projects and English Wikipedia. Yeah, we used to have the template named deleteme, which was even harder to find. In general, if unsure about which template name to use, I'd recommend starting at Category:Templates and working your way down. Dmehus (talk) 18:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

About that revert you made:
The reason why I added that tag was because there was something really sketchy about how the user wrote it. There was another user who wrote the same thing on their user page. Although I don't know if that really matters at this point, so I'll just go along with it. In the meantime, I've been figuring out which templates to add here, as you suggested for me to add them to the  and tweaked the Twinkle preferences for me. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:03, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Also, I hate to say it, but Anna Frodesiak retired from Wikipedia 7 months ago, and hasn't even returned ever since. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 21:30, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I had no doubt in my mind this was an impersonation case. In these cases, the delete wasn't the correct way to handle this. Rather, it would better just to direct message a Steward or Global Sysop or report in . The Twinkle templates just add extraneous edits that aren't needed and we invariably either have to revert the template or delete the page anyway. Hope that makes sense. Dmehus (talk) 22:05, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll remember that for next time. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:46, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, ✅! Dmehus (talk) 02:37, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

About tickets in the Fabricator.
I'm sorry to disturb you again and again. A ticket has been opened in the Fabricator. You're invited there, Request to see. Thank you. — <span style="background:linear-gradient(#ff0000,#228b22);padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"> SHEIKH  (Talk)  06:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * SHEIKH Thank you for the invitation. Indeed, I've now subscribed to that task as it appears to be related to this related issue that was originally reported on stewards' noticeboard. Fortunately, it's now been ✅. Dmehus (talk) 15:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much — <span style="background:linear-gradient(#ff0000,#228b22);padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"> SHEIKH   (Talk)  17:17, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Dmehus (talk) 17:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Meta:Users
Hello - Really? Why you have delete it? Can you try to avoid destroying the work of newbies? Your opinion is not the only correct one, as you always think. Not to mention you weren't an exemplary newcomer either... Thanks,--MrJaroslavik (talk) 19:28, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Email
Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Dmehus Looks like someone else sent you an email..I also sent a few days ago. --Anton (talk) 06:39, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * WikiJS Thank you for the barnstar! This is wonderful. I do very much enjoy, and take great satisfaction from, seeing users'/customers' problems/issues resolved. Dmehus (talk) 17:35, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

May I ask you something?
How come you weren't on Discord for a few days? Did something happen? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 18:22, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * DarkMatterMan4500 Nope, I was just doing some much needed spring cleaning and organizational things in real life, which I'd been neglecting / putting off for awhile. Dmehus (talk) 19:04, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello
How's it going?--Iron Sword 22 (talk) 00:36, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Iron Sword 22 Fine, thanks, you? Dmehus (talk) 01:24, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Need help with creating navboxes on mywikipedia--Iron Sword 22 (talk) 01:47, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've got a lot of things to do, so am quite busy. Are you able to ask on our Discord server, articulating a clear question, or series of questions, related to what specifically you're having difficulty with creating navboxes for your wiki? Alternatively, you could also ask on IRC, usually in, though would also work. Dmehus (talk) 01:51, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi..
I lost the password to my main account Loisya, I'm trying to remember the password back to the account to regain access to it. --HenryTheEighth (talk) 00:50, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * HenryTheEighth Do you have an e-mail address associated to your Loisya account? If so, you could try requesting a password reset. The one caveat I would add is that Loisya's registered e-mail address is an Outlook.com or Hotmail.com e-mail address, there could be an additional technical hurdle we'd have to overcome first. Dmehus (talk) 00:53, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't believe I had one on the account. HenryTheEighth (talk) 00:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dmehus.
Sorry to bother you but could you check Requests for Wiki? --HenryTheEighth (talk) 02:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * HenryTheEighth Sorry for the delayed reply, as I was busy handling stewards' noticeboard and other user requests. Anyway, your wiki was ✅ by R4356th. Sounds like an interesting wiki. Good luck! Dmehus (talk) 11:29, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying! HenryTheEighth (talk) 13:05, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dmehus (talk) 13:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Help
Me and my friend can't configure how to put Structured Discussions (Flow) on my friend's wiki. Is there possible to solved it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Villager2001X (talk • contribs) 11:21, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The Villager2001X You just need to go into Special:ManageWiki/extensions (on your wiki, of course), select StructuredDiscussions (may be listed under ), and then select the namespaces (if any) you want to use StructuredDiscussions by default. The latter is done in Special:ManageWiki/namespaces. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 11:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Tried but it stuck CSS somehow The Villager2001X (talk) 11:31, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The Villager2001X Also, (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: .) Dmehus (talk) 11:27, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Deja vu once again with another Content Policy violating wiki:
Sorry to bother you again about wikis that violate the Content policy, but I have discovered yet again, another wiki violating the Content policies. I'm investigating a wiki called, and just you wait till you have a look at the main page. That isn't the only focus as there are multiple problematic articles with similar issues in line with 2 other wikis that were locked and one being deleted. This one has some personal information such as phone numbers, real names, and birth dates, and I have found several others I want you to have a look at with these links I will provide you with. Just go through them one by one. Here are the links: https://dongningwl25wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E8%8C%83%E6%98%8E%E9%98%B3 https://dongningwl25wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E8%B0%AD%E6%85%A8%E7%84%B6 https://dongningwl25wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E8%BF%87%E9%93%AD%E9%98%B3 https://dongningwl25wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E9%83%AD%E6%B4%AA%E5%B1%B1 https://dongningwl25wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E8%B2%B3%E9%9B%B6%E8%B2%B3%E5%A3%B9 https://dongningwl25wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E6%9D%8E%E7%82%85%E6%98%8A https://dongningwl25wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E7%8E%8B%E5%AD%90%E6%A2%81 https://dongningwl25wiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E8%A2%81%E6%81%A9%E4%BD%A9

As you already may have guessed by now, all the articles that I linked you to are problematic Content Policy violating articles filled with the issues I have listed above and below the links.

This one is just an insult towards people with down syndrome, and while this one is hypocritical as this wiki is filled with private and/or sensitive information. Keep in mind that they aren't really respecting the Privacy Policy in any way, especially not since that wiki I'm reporting has these problems, and I hope you and the other Stewards can look into this as soon as you can. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 02:43, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Regarding an RfGR Close
Hi, why did you state that the request has been closed per UCP? You are a Steward. Also, why close something so early? 14:16, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * +1 to second question. I asked him, he replied, but vote was already closed.--MrJaroslavik (talk) 14:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * R4356th Yes, but I'm also an  user on Meta, so closure in accordance with User close policy is the best closure here. In terms of closing it so early, we've certainly done that many times in the past where requestors make good-faith but unclear requests for advanced global permissions too soon, and that was the reason User close policy was adopted. I would've been fine with you leaving WikiJS' responses in the request, as it was largely an edit conflict. Dmehus (talk) 14:20, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * As always, you are show policy to excuse your mistake. Where is common sense? How this was unclear request? Also w:WP:LISTEN as always,--MrJaroslavik (talk) 14:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hrm, how is it not common sense and closure per the policy? After all, as I've said, it is common decency to candidates to close their request early, especially when the policy allows it, rather than prolong the request for what was a forgone conclusion. Dmehus (talk) 14:52, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The UCP is clearly the correct option. It's the only policy we have which allows requests to be closed early where the candidate is unlikely to succeed and hasn't withdrawn. The GS policy which Stewards are bound to enforce doesn't give a provision for that. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  14:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, plus to add to what RhinosF1 said, it's really in fairness to the candidate where the prevailing or, indeed, only view expressed was that this request was too soon, as I'm sure they'd prefer to have only several opposing views versus, say, ten opposing views. Dmehus (talk) 14:29, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * "Yes, but I'm also an autoconfirmed user on Meta, so closure in accordance with Meta:User close policy is the best closure here." That is very funny and makes no sense. Is a user group you are automatically given by simply sticking around for some time more important than a community-given advanced user group to you? "In terms of closing it so early, we've certainly done that many times in the past where requestors make good-faith but unclear requests for advanced global permissions too soon" Right except for this was not an unclear request. "It's the only policy we have which allows requests to be closed early where the candidate is unlikely to succeed and hasn't withdrawn." What's the hurry?  14:39, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * R4356th To your question, "Is a user group you are automatically given by simply sticking around for some time more important than a community-given advanced user group to you," you raise a good point, but for whatever reason, the community established the threshold for closure according to User close policy the  threshold by which users can close early. In terms of your last question, I would just refer you to my comment above. I closed it out of fairness to the candidate. If they'd prefer the close be reverted and the request reopened, I'd certainly consider doing that for them, but in fairness, one of the main reasons the community adopted User close policy was to give respect to candidates putting themselves forward clearly too soon. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 14:46, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Your choice of the User Close Policy violated the policy. The policy says "method for trusted, but non-privileged" (emphasis mine), which obviously does not include you as you are a Steward and Stewards are in charge of handling Wiki Creator RfPs. I briefly skimmed through the RfC that led to the creation of the policy I had read it earlier) and it appears to me that the idea was to allow non-admins and non-Stewards to close RfPs. 18:08, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the delayed reply. With respect, I disagree. While I hadn't looked at the actual RfC in question recently, I don't see how the close was contrary to the approved policy. Proposal 1 allowed any user that was at least  (or above) to close requests. It does not specifically preclude Stewards from closing discussions early. Moreover, the close was not made in my Steward capacity; it was made in my capacity as a regular community member who is at least   and who happens to also be a Meta administrator. So, I would also argue your point that User close policy was to allow non-Meta administrators to close is also not correct, as that would also preclude closure by RhinosF1, Reception123, and others. Proposal 2 was approved and allows for a Steward to overturn incorrect User close policy closes. Since I closed the discussion not in a Steward capacity, any other Steward can always feel free to revert the close if they felt it was incorrect. Even if you still feel the policy is vague and unclear, this is a reason for drafting an RfC to clarify the policy that it specifically precludes any user at or above   from closing, as RhinosF1 has suggested below. Dmehus (talk) 18:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's a waste of the communities time and effort when a request has no chance of succeeding. The community specifically made this provision and approved it by RfC. If you want policy changing, take it to RfC. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  14:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's WP:NOTNOW though rather to TOOSOON ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  14:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * "If you want policy changing, take it to RfC." That is just bluntly aggressive and baseless. Regards. 18:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

About self-approving wikis:
Are wiki creators allowed to self-approve their wikis once they are requested? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)


 * If not, then I'm terribly sorry. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:14, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Yes, you can self-approve your own wiki. That wasn't the issue at all. I just wanted to place the request on hold until a CreateWiki category was created for your wiki, so the wiki could be created in that category instead of uncategorized. Hope that makes sense. Dmehus (talk) 15:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. So, I guess there's no foul here. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:17, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * DarkMatterMan4500 Nope, it was just a minor request. Not a significant issue at all. Dmehus (talk) 15:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Local Election Request
I am requesting a local bureaucrat election for, because no bureaucrat seems to be active on the wiki. I was wondering if you could put a sitenotice for my election, and if you could un-mark the wiki as inactive. Thanks, Wiki JS   talk  18:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

About those recent sockpuppetry we kept requesting to get dealt with:
Me and Allistayrian have found out the true culprit behind it. Please have a look at this when you're free, and don't worry about responding to my messages on the  channel on Discord. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 00:59, 28 March 2021 (UTC)


 * That is some interesting detective work you and Allistayrian have put together. I'll look another look at all the users contributions again and consider whether further investigation is warranted (may not be until tomorrow though). Dmehus (talk) 01:40, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Please do. Meanwhile, I'll notify the users about the culprit that we have uncovered at some point. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 01:47, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like some of the admins already knew beforehand. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:47, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Please unblacklist links from TheTopTens
Hi Doug, (I have already asked this in rotten websites wiki and they directed me to go to here" "Miraheze Stewards even added this site to the blacklist of links to external sites by the spam filter due to its toxic nature." However, you could make the point that Miraheze allow links from Twitter, which could be considered even more toxic than TheTopTens. The same could be said for Tumblr, which is arguably even more toxic than TheTopTens. Plus, allowing links from TheTopTens could help improve TheTopTens page on Rotten Websites by allowing people to link the lists mentioned in the article. Plus, there hasn't been any big drama on TheTopTens since 2019, so it doesn't make sense to keep it blacklisted due to it's "toxic nature" when most of the toxicity is gone nowadays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noner2 (talk • contribs) 17:02, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Noner2 Thank you for the request. I would disagree that TheTopTens is akin to Tumblr and Twitter. It seems pretty spammy to me, and, perhaps due to its anonymous nature, it does cause a lot of problems with users creating "hate lists" of Miraheze users that they then link to as "sources" on Miraheze. Can you give me some examples of the sort of things you're wanting to link to on TheTopTens, to better assess this request? Dmehus (talk) 17:07, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

About some posts I made in the cvt channel earlier.
About a day ago, I made a post on the Discord server about SephSpace continuing to insult our wikis and its users and provided some evidence, but that post got buried by other posts shortly afterwards. Did you or any or the other staff members happen to see it? The reason for asking is because I never got a response about it. --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 19:27, 31 March 2021 (UTC)


 * DeciduousWater534 I did see it, yes, but this is more complex as it relates to a dispute between multiple Reception wiki factions, and will likely require some sort of Steward mediation in the medium term. In the meantime, my best advice would be for you guys to stick to your wikis and for that faction to stick to their wikis. Dmehus (talk) 19:31, 31 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay, thanks for the clarification. --DeciduousWater534 (talk) 04:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Dmehus (talk) 14:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Concerned about Wiki Request #17490
Hello, as you can see from my writing here, I declined Xiaoshenbike4's wiki request mainly because I was concerned that approving it would've breached the Content Policy from day one. If you look at his edits on a locked wiki, there has been further edits, in which I can't see mainly because 1, it's a locked wiki, and second, further editing on that locked wiki that I reported about 2 weeks ago shouldn't even be possible as it had serious Content Policy violations, and should've been closed as well. I hope it's not too much to prevent further editing on the  DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:15, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * DarkMatterMan4500 Yep, I saw both things you mentioned, and am already looking into it. Actions will be taken when the wiki is formally dealt with. Good decline, and report. Dmehus (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * How many weeks would it take to have the wikis I reported to be fully reviewed, if I may ask? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Firstly, decisions to close and/or delete wikis in accordance with Content Policy are not taken lightly. Rather, they are reviewed thoroughly, discussed with other Stewards, and decisions on what step(s) to take are discussed. Secondly, please do remember that we're all volunteers here. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * As you wish. I'll keep that in mind. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your understanding, and please do. :) Dmehus (talk) 14:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep up the good work and the review, and good luck. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 14:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

WikiEducation
WikiEducation will be an alternative to Wikipedia, where the main difference is that the deletion policy will be far more lenient with regard to notability requirements. Basically, WikiEducation will be a near-indiscriminate collection of information in the form of articles on any topic.

WikiEducation will be an open encyclopedia, journal and news source anyone can contribute to. WikiEducation is hopeful to be launched in April 2021.

The rise of Wikipedia's aggressive deletion policies particularly regarding 'non-notable' topics and articles published by Wikipedia newbies has been one of the primary motivations to create WikiEducation. I therefore feel that Wikipedia no longer serves the public interest as an encyclopedia that 'anyone can edit.' Seeking to expand on the concept of a publicly modifiable real-time publication, I would like to create WikiEducation to serve this need.

WikiEducation will actively search out Wikipedia editors who are having their articles deleted and (if possible) retrieves their article and posts it on WikiEducation, sending its creator a message telling them this.

Unlike Wikipedia, WikiEducation will have no notability requirements, and accepts articles on all topics which are legal including news, humour, internet phenomena, websites, blogs, and projects. In addition, original research, which is fundamentally forbidden from Wikipedia, will be permitted on WikiEducation.

As such, WikiEducation's deletion criteria will also be quite simpler than Wikipedia's. Basically, any content that does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion will likely to remain on the site forever.

As an example, an article on the online gaming term ganking was deleted from Wikipedia for being a neologism with a few independent sources, but an article on the same subject hopefully will exist on WikiEducation without controversy.

Although WikiEducation does not have requirements for notability, sources are still to be required, otherwise material may be challenged and/or removed by other editors.

I am Tirsiak Smith, and thank you for reading!

Kind regards, --Tirsiak (talk) 20:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Tirsiak This is good now, so I'll approve that. Can you just assure me that if a non-notable person has an article published about them on your wiki, and they request deletion of said article, will you honour it? Dmehus (talk) 20:26, 1 April 2021 (UTC)


 * If they no longer want their article that is on WikiEducation, then yes, we can delete it for them without no hesitation. --Tirsiak (talk) 20:29, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks. I'll go ahead and approve this then. Dmehus (talk) 20:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Is it okay if you can assist by finding some editors that will be interested in this project? Cheers! --Tirsiak (talk) 20:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Tirsiak I'm afraid I'm quite busy, but you're welcome to explain the purpose of and scope for your wiki in one thread at community noticeboard and invite willing editors to assist with your project now that it's been created. Alternatively, you are free to ask in on IRC or on Discord, provided you don't ask for volunteers every day or something. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 20:40, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You can also list your wiki at Gazetteer of wikis, too. Dmehus (talk) 20:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

bot
Hi! can i create a bot for maintenance job?--Angelo Pisani (talk) 16:44, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Angelo Pisani It depends on if you want an automated bot account, run on a cron schedule, or just an alternate account that is bot flagged to perform routine, mass editing tasks. There are a variety of ways to accomplish this, including with some extensions we have and the AutoWikiBrowser tool. If the former, then you will need to probably set up Pywikibot. I'd recommend joining us at on IRC or on Discord with more specific questions regarding this. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 17:00, 3 April 2021 (UTC)