User talk:MBL

=Ficreation= Hi MBL, could you please reopen Ficreation, you need to give prior notice to the users before an action like that is taken. Freighttrain (talk) 05:39, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * As I noted in the Stewards' noticeboard, any bureaucrat of the wiki can reopen the wiki. If they don't, the community as a whole can hold a vote and then have a Steward reopen the wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 05:45, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * This happened only a couple of hours ago though, and MBL altered the notice to say that it was closed for good this time, also none of the pages are even loading now, does that mean they are deleted? I'm just a user there so I don't know about any of that, but I've messaged one of the new admins Milcery elsewhere though he doesn't usually reply quickly, anyway no users there want Ficreation closed, activity was just starting to pick up again but the new admins were infighting and MBL who must have been watching decided to use it as an excuse to close Ficreation because of some inane semi-personal feud with Geoshea the creator of Ficreation.
 * Anyway it's really annoying because I regularly update and maintain my sci-fi blog there, and because of some silly feud I'd rather not have to first find another suitable miraheze wiki to post it, and then reupload hundreds of blog images, so is there anything you can do about this in the meantime? Freighttrain (talk) 06:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * What MBL did was simply put the wiki in private mode, all the pages are still there. As I said, any of the bureaucrats can reopen the wiki. Per CentralAuth, Milcery has no rights on the wiki and has been banned. As none of the Stewards are members of the wiki, they can't really decide if it's their place to reopen the wiki or not. If no one reopens the wiki but you know that the community is against closure, rally them and hold a vote to reopen the wiki. After a week passes, Stewards will assess the vote and reopen the wiki. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: If this action was done by a rogue bureaucrat, the local bureaucrats could petition Stewards to revoke their rights on the wiki.


 * Well Milcery was a bureauocrat on Ficreation until a couple of hours ago, there were about four other new admin who have been active over the past few days or so, and MBL was not one of them, I didn't even know that MBL had admin rights there, so I would say that he is a rogue bureacrat, and who knows if the other admins/bureacrats still have their rights there, I just don't know what has happened.


 * Anyway I don't really know any of the other admin or users on Ficreation other than Milcery and Geoshea, and even if I was going to try and 'rally' them I don't even think I recall their usernames and I can't look them up there because MBL set it to private, so that is not an option at the moment, but I definitely know that none of the active admin wanted it closed, otherwise they wouldn't have been squabbling for control, and none of the other users there would want it closed either.


 * This is very inconvenient as there was no prior notice, and we are not able to contact anyone locally there or even view the pages, so we require Miraheze sysops to step in and sort that out for us, whether that means finding a way of getting in contact with MBL, or manually reopening Ficreation and restoring our user rights. Freighttrain (talk) 06:42, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I've forwarded all your concerns to the Stewards. Please standby. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 06:49, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok thank you. Freighttrain (talk) 06:54, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * My greatest apologies to both of you for the late reply and sudden change on what happened. Many of the admins wanted it to be immediately closed down to prevent yet another power struggle within the wiki due to how much drama was going on there with many of the admins being corrupt. In Geoshea's last words to me before he left the internet, he said he wanted me to take down Ficreation as he felt it was a mistake and will only harm others to come and he didn't want that. How long do you want me to reopen the wiki (I'm reopening it just for you)? Geoshea and FineLime promoted me to bureaucrat themselves a few weeks ago back in July, so I don't fancy myself as a rogue- as I'm merely following their orders to finally stop the drama once and for all.


 * PS: If you want help in reuploading your blog posts, perhaps I could help and cut back a number of hours in it by helping set up your blog and such while uploading these images as well? I'm willing to do you a solid as you're a pretty reasonable and polite man and I do enjoy sci-fi stuff. I can see the negative implications of it closing down for you and I don't think you deserve to go through such a tedious task so I'll be happy to help as Ficreation's going to close anyhow. MBL (talk) 15:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello MBL and thank you for being so courteous, also I don't require you to leave Ficreation open any more than a couple of days if you intend to close it, as in that case I will just look elsewhere to post my blog, though I'm still not sure about closing Ficreation, I had noticed that activity had started to pick up again over the last few days, and if the admins were infighting then it is really their responsibility to ensure that it does not effect the other users who edit there, I'm sure no one would mind if they quarrel there or elsewhere, so long as it doesn't effect Ficreation itself.


 * Also I suspect that your action of closing Ficreation will not stop the fighting, and that it will just move elsewhere, I'd say it is probably better to leave Ficreation open where we know it is occurring, this way we can at least let it sort itself out amongst those few involved, because if we force it to start up elsewhere where we don't know, then those admin might decide to go to the rest of those people who were arguing with Geoshea and KBOS, so probably best not to push more people in to their hands.


 * Anyway thank you for your offer to help me with reposting my blog, though I can do so myself and I think this might be the fourth time already so it shouldn't be too much of a struggle, I guess I'll go and get started on that then. Freighttrain (talk) 23:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I've just left a message on Geoshea's talk page on Ficreation, we'll see if he's interested in what's been going on over at ED. Freighttrain (talk) 02:58, 8 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm glad we could come to an agreement, and I'll leave the wiki open for about two days before it gets closed down forever again as per your request. Thank you very much for your cooperation and if you could show me the new location of your sci-fi blogs, that'll be greatly appreciated as I've grown to really like them. MBL (talk) 06:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok well Geoshea has just let me know he's not interested, also that's great to hear you like my sci-fi blog, I don't actually get many comments about it, I'll let you know here once I've found a site and reuploaded it, and thank you also for your cooperation, anyway I just wanted to hear from Geoshea there so you can close that wiki now. Freighttrain (talk) 07:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll close Ficreation down now but will give you access to its pages just in case you need a reference/guide to your pages. And no problem, I'm glad we solved the problem pretty fast and without drama. Also in case you didn't know, it was FineLime himself who tried (and failed) turning Ficreation into a vandal's haven which then led to it entering a state of some sort of quasi-anarchy that caused the power struggles; Funvasion won't have that as Ultriax is a capable and intelligent owner who knows how to stay out of drama very well (FineLime's blocked on the wiki). MBL (talk) 07:24, 8 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok well I've actually just started on Omnibus, it seemed a bit quieter than Funvasion, though it will probably be a while before I can be bothered to reupload the images for the larger blogs. Freighttrain (talk) 08:09, 8 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Looks pretty cool and I'm actually planning to settle on Omnibus since I like it better than Funvasion (more formal userbase and mature admins with plenty of experience). Keep up the great work. MBL (talk) 08:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)