User talk:Dmehus

Regarding Category:Wikipedia indefinitely semi-protected pages
Hi, I was wondering why you chose to call it "Wikipedia indefinitely" rather than use Meta instead. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think I did that because it matched the template imported from English Wikipedia, as the template added that redlinked category, so I just opted to create the category. In the course of some of the editing I've been doing, I've noticed other experienced editors like doing the same thing, which reaffirmed whether I should've renamed the template first. I have nothing against fixing the category the template is calling and then moving, without leaving a redirect, the category to the new name if you or an administrator want to do that. In fact, I'd actually probably favour that. --Dmehus (talk) 13:51, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes it should probably be changed on the templates and then moved, as it's confusing to have a category that mentions Wikipedia here. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 18:32, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Your RfC
Hello,

Being enthusiastic is a good thing but please get more involved in the community before creating RfCs on policy. We have a very different structure to most Wikimedia Wikis like you might be used to. I strongly suggest logging onto IRC and discussing these things with us so you can get our insight first.

We are always open to new ideas but I don't want you to waste time on things that will quickly be shut down. Please do also be aware that if this happens regularly, you could face a topic ban.

Thanks,
 * ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - 21:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't use IRC, but do use Discord. Are you, and others, not as active on Discord as you are on IRC? I also don't want to waste my time on RfCs. What prompted it was the issue that arose on the Stewards' noticeboard about the abuse filter not allowing users to submit a global user page with external links in it (like your global user page) even after they've bypassed the CAPTCHA. You're a local Administrator here on Meta and have the technical aptitude and competence to modify the abuse filter and make other changes, so you were top of my mind in my thought that it would make sense for local Meta admins and Global Sysops to be added as the sort of users that can assist the stewards and system administrators with maintaining Login wiki. Dmehus (talk) 21:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Discord is fine! I understand why you might think certain things but what's great in your head based on Wikimedia might not be for us. ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c -  22:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Surprisingly, I hadn't navigated to the Main Page on Login wiki and I do see there is not supposed to be any content outside of user or user talk pages and a minimal number of templates, but perhaps we could create a single page here on Meta that describes how Login wiki is governed and managed (not a long page; something minimal, like our other Meta content pages). Included within that page, could, potentially be a brief narrative that describes the process by which System Administrators or Stewards may appoint local administrators or bureaucrats on Login wiki to assist them with managing that wiki only? Also, are you a local administrator on Miraheze Commons? I noticed that the Administrators' noticeboard there is a redlink. I'd love to discuss with you on Discord some ideas I have to developing brief local policies for Commons. I agree that minimal policies are generally better. Dmehus (talk) 22:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
Hi,

Please stop getting involved in situations you do not understand. You are not helping and in many cases are spreading advice that is simply wrong, not helpful at all and stepping on other peoples toes. You may be partially blocked from Noticeboards if you can not stick to answering things that you actually understand.

Thanks,
 * ~ RhinosF1 - (chat)· acc· c - 06:21, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, please note that since Miraheze works differently than many other sites you may be used to before answering to such questions at the beginning it is important that you ask more experienced editors how things work around here. If you are unsure of an answer, it is often best not to post it as it may inadvertently cause confusion or may be incorrect. Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 06:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * hey I'm definitely trying to understand the processes around here, though it's, perhaps, a little difficult with the overlapping responsibilities between system administrators and stewards. I'm happy to step away from answering questions on the Stewards' noticeboard, limiting my involvement to minor things like adding unsigned signature information to users' posts or comments who have forgotten to add them, and to instead focusing my responses at the Community noticeboard on topics I fully understand. Where I'm uncertain, I'll reach out to one of you. Dmehus (talk) 14:42, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for understanding. You shouldn't be discouraged to help out, it's just better that you get used to things work and feel free to ask me about anything at any time :) Reception123 (talk) ( C ) 09:11, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I am also quite new to the Miraheze project and for now I only check Meta every once in a while and comment on RfCs because I don't know much about it but I think we need to be nicer and more understanding to the new people and help them understand how this project works because also when I first joined it was confusing and hard to get used to the rules that you have here. DeeM28 (talk) 10:00, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks both for your messages, and to above as well. One of this project's strengths is that it doesn't have very many policies and guidelines, in contrast to the Wikimedia projects (especially English Wikipedia) which have so many policies, guidelines, and so forth that they're either to possibly know them all or they come into conflict with each other. I think, in my case, I was encouraged by that ability to just use common sense and boldly help out. This caused me to participate a little bit too excessively on the stewards' noticeboard in answering questions on which I wasn't 100% certain, particularly after seeing some unanswered questions at the top of that noticeboard and even some be archived by the bot without an answer. This wasn't that I was intentionally giving out the wrong information or anything, of course, but it wasn't helpful, in several cases.
 * This is just my personal opinion, but I know we go to some degree of effort to say how we do things differently, and arguably better, I'd argue, than the Wikimedia projects. However, I think we're trying to have the stewards' noticeboard do too much, if that makes sense. For reports of cross-wiki vandalism and long-term abuse and some other things, it generally works pretty well, but I do think for things like requests from wiki owners to delete their wikis, rename their wikis, and those sort of things, I think we should expand the scope of Phabricator by creating a "steward requests" form. On that form, it could list briefly the types of requests handled in that way. Since volunteers so regularly monitor Phabricator and Discord, I think we'd have a better handle overall of tracking, triaging, and answering requests. Phabricator is still publicly available, just like the wiki, so anyone can look old tickets. As well, its search functionality may be more robust that the MediaWiki search function, so could be utilized by customers for seeing if another customer had a similar problem. It may even have a module built-in, or that could be added, that would allow the system administrators and/or stewards to build a searchable knowledgebase of past questions. Dmehus (talk) 14:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Your reply on steward board
Hi sorry I saw your message late anyways I’m messaging you about the message reply on steward board I didn’t hear anything back from it and sorry for no reply I just saw it tonight Have you heard anything back on it however? --Cocopuff2018 04:30, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Cocopuff2018: Did you hear back from a Steward or System Administrator? If so, do you know what the result was? If not, let me know, and I'll try escalating this for you. Dmehus (talk) 00:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Your reply on steward board
Hi sorry I saw your message late anyways I’m messaging you about the message reply on steward board I didn’t hear anything back from it and sorry for no reply I just saw it tonight Have you heard anything back on it however? --Cocopuff2018 04:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Cocopuff2018: Did you hear back from a Steward or System Administrator? If so, do you know what the result was? If not, let me know, and I'll try escalating this for you. Dmehus (talk) 00:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)