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How can I make page's name that include "_" and "[]"?
I tried to create a document to explain the names that contain "_" and "[]", but I couldn't find it in my ability. Could you tell me about the extension function or additional settings that make the document title include "_" and "[]"? Prkmora (talk) 14:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Prkmora Hello there, you can't do this, it is not possible because it will return a "bad title" error. Click here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community%5Bnoticeboard to confirm. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   16:39, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * you may be interested in the  magic word, see Magic words Sobsz (talk) 15:11, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Request for modifying 2 wikis' local interwiki tables
@Ugochimobi? Ora &#38; D (talk) 09:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ora & D Hello there! Thank you for pinging me, this is now ✅. Sorry for getting to it a little bit late. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   10:35, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ugochimobi I apologize. I've made a few changes & added one of the restored db141 wikis. One last time:

(1) daria.miraheze.org

(2) smallville.miraheze.org

(3) super.miraheze.org Thank you. Ora &#38; D (talk) 14:18, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Universal Omega? Ora &#38; D (talk) 09:23, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Agent Isai? Ora &#38; D (talk) 07:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ugochimobi? Ora &#38; D (talk) 07:40, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * 😕 Ora &#38; D (talk)
 * Someone will eventually add the modifications you want, please be patient. OrangeStar (talk) 17:11, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If it's too much trouble, let me modify it myself. I shouldn't have to beg. Ora &#38; D (talk) 17:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ugochimobi? Anyone? We can see you're active. Ora &#38; D (talk) 12:08, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello @Ora & D Sorry for the pings I missed. But you shouldn't have done this, I mean, deleting the former request I attended to and replacing it with this new one. You should have created a new thread for this new request as this thread has already gone far inside the noticeboard. Please take note of this in the future. However, you can not have the mh:a and mh:sv prefixes because mh: is already a miraheze pseudo interwiki prefix which can be used for any Miraheze wiki in that pattern. For example, I can like to the daria.miraheze.org wiki by doing  which would link to the wiki as observed here. So those two would be ❌.
 * Also, for the previous request you made, is it that you no longer want those previous prefixes? Do you prefer I delete those previously requested prefixes and add the once you requested now?
 * Lastly, I hope you're aware that cv, sv, and tt prefixes are interlanguage prefixes and not normal interwiki prefixes? --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   08:34, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ugochimobi The new prefixes should replace the previous ones. It's only local, what's the harm? These are small wikis (less than 5 active users) and we know what we do. We need short prefixes for highly-used sites. We're aware some of them are interlanguage prefixes, we'll use . Ora &#38; D (talk) 08:49, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ora & D Great! But apart from the fact that mh: is a miraheze pseudo interwiki prefix, you also can not have something-colon-something or something-period-something as a prefix for interwiki. So in a nutshell, you can not have punctuations added to prefixes. It is not a limitation set by the community or administrators, it is a limitation from the Extension:Interwiki. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   09:03, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ora & D So should I add the sv, s and a prefixes without the mh: prefix? or add them like mhsv, mhs and mha? --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   09:18, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The goal is for a/s/sv to be displayed like internal links (mh:prefix:title vs. prefix:title), otherwise we'll have to add  in every use. Ora &#38; D (talk) 09:30, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * That is exactly what the interwiki prefix does. I think you should explain better. Because the above is pretty unclear to me. If I add the a prefix and you want to link to a page named PAGE, then you'll add it like a:PAGE, if you want the displayed text to be different then you add a pipe charater | the usual way.
 * Plus, from what you did above can you see that the a link is linking to a.miraheze.org? because that's how it has been set to work. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   09:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ugochimobi mh:prefix:title → mh:prefix:title; prefix:title → prefix:title. See? Ora &#38; D (talk) 09:40, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ora & D Oh this is not your wiki, for example when I set the prefix: prefix on dariawiki, you'd see that it would link properly. This is metawiki, the reason the prefix: prefix is showing a redlink here is because metawiki doesn't have the prefix: prefix on its interwiki table. Do you understand? --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   11:43, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ugochimobi Ignore the color. Let's try a different example: mh:gratisdata:title → mh:gratisdata:title; title → title. Ora &#38; D (talk) 11:57, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, that works, but I don't get the message? --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   16:14, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

How do I enable Edit and Edit Source Tab together
Is like that, I add the VisualEditor extensions, and set up ($wgVisualEditorEnableWikitext), ($wgVisualEditorUseSingleEditTab) is true,

Also "Use the wikitext mode inside the visual editor" and "Enable the editing two Toolbar" in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing options are checked

but in the Tab menu above the normal page, only "Edit Source（编辑源代码 in zh-cn Language）" is displayed...

So, what do I have to do to get the "Edit（编辑）" and the "Edit Source（编辑源代码）" right? Sucrose Fans Rosalina129 18:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Try setting  to false. OrangeStar (talk) 18:59, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I tried that but doesn't works...
 * but the weird thing is to add to the address bar:, the Visual Editor is works. Sucrose Fans Rosalina129 01:24, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm unable to reproduce what's happening to your wiki, please try disabling and re-enabling the extension. OrangeStar (talk) 21:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No, it's settled now, but thanks for the advice! Sucrose Fans Rosalina129 02:04, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Request to add some Interwiki data
Can Stewards please add the following InterWiki data to Unreal_Neo Encyclopedia(unrealneo.miraheze.org)?

Like This. Thanks! Sucrose Fans Rosalina129 18:38, 10 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Rosalina129, this is now ✅. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   11:32, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Deleting a wiki
How do I immediately delete my wiki if I don't want to use the wiki? VolnyiLev (talk) 04:40, 11 December 2022 (UTC)


 * If you are a bureaucrat, or a user that possesses the  permission, you can close your wiki by going to   on your wiki. You can click the box labeled Closed. Your wiki will then become uneditable. After a period of time, members of the SRE team will run the deletion script for all closed wikis, and your wiki will be permanently deleted. As an alternative, if you wish to keep the wiki's content, but not allow it to be visible to the public, you can go to the above location, and check the box labeled Private. Thanks - BrandonWM (talk • contributions • global • rights) 08:27, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You can request that the wiki be deleted on the Stewards' noticeboard. Tali64³ (talk) 20:16, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have bureaucrat rights on the wiki?Thank you. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 23:06, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Can Someone Help?
About the chinese version of Uncyclopedia, Can I have User groups in there? I just wan't edit some political articles, and I just wan't to finish it. Guest278 (talk) 08:03, 13 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Guest278 If you're referring to having a right in the wiki, then I think it's best you request a permission in the wiki, when you do so, an administrator or a crat should be able to action your request appropriately. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   08:38, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

db141 Waiting
If one opts to wait to see if the data can be recovered, will there be a notification sent out or do I just need to keep checking every day and seeing if anything's changed? Columbiabritannica (talk) 18:42, 14 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Check Tech:SRE noticeboard for latest updates ★Commander Xiaochan from Vaud★ (talk) 23:29, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Infobox help
Hi everyone! I know nearly nothing about wiki coding, and I want to add a country infobox to my wiki. Can anyone provide help? Thank you! CoolJames (talk) 14:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I use the Wikipedia infobox system. It is like an empty table and just needs adding the wanted rows of information. I can create an infobox for you if can list the information that you want to include. PercyUK (talk)

Question regarding fair dealing law and Youtube screenshots
I'm unsure if it is acceptable under British law to use a screenshot of a Youtube video or a screenshot of a Youtube channel's homepage, in the context of an encyclopedic article about that channel. Can anyone shed some light? Dimpizzy (talk) 14:40, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The thing with copyright law exceptions (and copyright law in general) is that they're very open to interpretation. No-one can for sure say "yes this is allowed" without going through a court case that could take years to finish.
 * Fair dealing allows use of a work if they meet at least one of these 5 conditions:
 * Research and study.
 * Criticism or review.
 * Reporting of current events.
 * Parody, caricature and pastiche.
 * Quotation, which is one of the more vague ones. It allows usage for "criticism, review or otherwise".
 * However, my personal recommendation is to not even try to use works under fair dealing if you're not 100% sure. There's always the option of just sending the youtuber in question an email asking if you can use parts of their work. Sometimes asking the individual whose work you want to use is the easiest way. OrangeStar (talk) 15:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you. I'll look further into the "quotation" condition because at first glance it seems to cover it. I may use your suggestion to ask them directly as well. Thanks again. Dimpizzy (talk) 15:17, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Request for feedback: Restricting ability to modify certain core groups without assistance
A perennial issue which pops up every few weeks (both on Discord and on wiki) is someone reporting that they've deleted the bureaucrat or administrator group and have now lost their access to ManageWiki or even worse, locked themselves out of their wiki (in private wikis, it is actually completely possible to 100% lock yourself out if you delete the administrator group). In fact, if you look on the Stewards' noticeboard right now, you'll find 2 requests asking for the bureaucrat group to be recreated because the bureaucrat accidentally deleted the bureaucrat group.

As such, SRE wants users opinions on potentially restricting bureaucrat's ability to delete the bureaucrat and administrator group without the assistance of Stewards. This is mainly a safeguard against bureaucrats and administrators deleting the group without even knowing what doing that does, just for the sake of it because they can. Over the history of Miraheze, there have probably been over 100 requests for the bureaucrat and/or administrator group to be recreated because users accidentally deleted it. I don't see much net benefit in allowing users to delete them but if they want to, that's fine but we want to add a safeguard against these sorts of accidental deletions. We want to hear your thoughts on this and what you think so please let us know what you think about this. Thank you! Agent Isai Talk to me! 02:35, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * One thing I remember is someone said it's not possible to remove read from sysops to avoid locking yourself out of private wikis. This doesn't do much if you can just delete the group entirely. Also, I'm not sure HOW it's possible to delete any group bundled with core, much less why. So this would be sysops, bureaucrats, bots, and interface administrators. As for whether or not it's a good idea, I really don't like the idea of rigidly implementing things like auto-created pages, but in this case since it would be doing what core already should be doing anyway, it makes sense. Naleksuh (talk) 06:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Per discussion w/ Agent over other channels and their relayed conversations w/ technical folks, while this isn't possible today it is within the realm of possibility.
 * If other technical folks agree with this assessment, removing the ability to self-delete core groups would be a good idea given the number of new admins with limited administrative experience we have joining from otherwise-turnkey platforms like FANDOM. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 07:18, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Not all wikis use the standard bureaucrat -> administrator -> everyone else setup, if we're going to introduce something like this it's very important we give them the ability to change this in the future.
 * While it'll take some time to make something like this, one thing that can be implemented quickly is a warning when deleting a group that has the  permission. Perhaps something like this next to the "Delete this user group" checkbox:
 * Warning: You're about to delete a group with permission to access ManageWiki. Deleting this group may lock you out of ManageWiki! Are you sure you want to do this? OrangeStar (talk) 10:21, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Per the proposal, the main goal is just to make sure that users don't delete the group accidentally. Stewards would still delete it if requested, provided that a replacement group exists, one with ManageWiki rights. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:00, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * As long as the option exists, I agree with this change. OrangeStar (talk) 16:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I would prefer the suggested avenue of clear warnings as compared to restricting the feature to require third party intervention outright. --Raidarr (talk) 13:13, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The proposed warning message above that appears when you're trying to delete any groups/user rights that has ManageWiki permission should not be ignored (but be aware that some users might ignore this warning and they risk locking them out of ManageWiki unless a restriction that prevent the user that has a right with ManageWiki permission from deleting the group that the user have). This might or might not solve this perennial issue and I have to wait to see this. TF3RDL (talk &#124; contribs &#124; FANDOM &#124; Wikipedia) 04:45, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

How to add two new functions to our wiki?
Our wiki now needs to add the following two functions: Hope to be able to help, thank you!  面朝大海 春暖花开  ⛵ (☎️ 📧) 14:10, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Reply function on the talk page
 * 2) SecurePoll. To make voting safer and more convenient


 * To enable the first one, go to Special:ManageWiki/extensions -> Other -> Discussion tools. You may need to enable Linter first and refresh the page before you can enable Discussion tools.
 * As for SecurePoll, it is not possible to use it at the moment as it leaks personal information. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:21, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your answer!  面朝大海 春暖花开  ⛵ (☎️ 📧) 14:29, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Excuse me, can you tell me how to enable Linter?  面朝大海 春暖花开  ⛵ (☎️ 📧) 14:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It should be available in the same page, in the "Special pages" tab. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 14:56, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for your reply, I've done it. But how can I also have this function in the main space of a certain namespace?  面朝大海 春暖花开  ⛵ (☎️ 📧) 15:03, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Discussion tools only works on talk pages, like "Talk:", "User talk:" "Project talk:" and so on. It doesn't work on other namespaces. OrangeStar (talk) 16:41, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

How to change Daylight saving time (DST) ?
Hello. I'm in France and I wanna know where I can change the Daylight saving time (DST). Actually, my timezone is Europe/Paris but it's 22:00 instead of 23:00. How can I change this ? Tite Melina (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * It can be done from Special:ManageWiki/settings on your wiki. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 23:55, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Mmh, I'm sorry but I can't found where. There is only "Timezone" (Europe/Paris), and some check boxes (American Dates - unchecked, Minerva Always Show Language Button - checked), Enable per page language - unchecked). Nothing about DST =/
 * Even if timezone is set on Europe/Paris, the hour is the summer hour, not winter hour Tite Melina (talk) 12:16, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * OK.Can you show me a link of your wiki?I'll check out. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 14:11, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. My wiki is ddlv.miraheze.org. Be careful, it's a french wiki. Tite Melina (talk) 19:53, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Probably mediawiki doesn't have settings like "winter hour" in first place.I am sorry that I can not be a help by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 03:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Request for adding interwiki entries


Ora &#38; D (talk) 19:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ora & D Hello there, I did for dariawiki and superwiki only as smallvillewiki is currently affected by db141 issues which would be over soon. I'd do for smallvillewiki when it's back online. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   22:20, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Ora &#38; D (talk) 04:36, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I've made a mistake: lego URL should be: https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/$1 . Ora &#38; D (talk) 06:57, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

+1:

I'm sorry for the inconvenience. I'd do it myself if I could. Ora &#38; D (talk) 09:33, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ora & D ✅, Please have it in mind that you ain't inconveniencing me :) --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   21:23, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Yoshipedia and Wariopedia still listed under database maintenance
Yoshipedia and Wariopedia, for some reason, are still listed as being under database maintenace; does anyone know why this is? Bawitdaba (talk) 20:10, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Bawitdaba Hello there, just to elaborate on the notice given on the wikis "We have been able to restore the data from the original db141 disks and will use that to restore this wiki. We will then merge all new edits back into your wiki." and also on the SRE noticeboard. Please visit the Tech:SRE noticeboard for more information.
 * If you're on our discord server, you would also find useful information on our anouncement channel and cool gist on the #general channel. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   22:09, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Are they required to be merged back into Mariopedia or will they remain separate? Either or, as long as the work is safe, it should be fine. I was unaware that this also applied to spinoff wikis. Mariopedia's community did agree to spinoffs (see here), but they are more invested in Mariopedia itself, so there is that, and I already run a lot of wikis. Bawitdaba (talk) 22:20, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I was also going to note that, while I do see why Yoshipedia and Wariopedia being reintegrated into Mariopedia, I worry about this setting a precedent or what some may deem a justification of merging all Mario wikis into a single one. For instance, I've been running DKpedia since about June, months before the database outage, and DMM founded Luigi's Mansion Wiki some time in February.
 * Either way I'm sorry if I split off the mini-wikis, if it was seen as an inconvenience to Miraheze or if it seemed like me going back on when I said I would not do any more wiki creation requests (hence why I asked DarkMatterMan if he wanted to create them or asked via consensus). I promoted DMM to bureaucrat on both wikis, like he was on Mariopedia, and would have handed out other promotions accordingly as well (I am a bureaucrat on Mariopedia), something that I did to MontyMoleLoreMaster when he joined Yoshipedia (although he was not admin on the original wiki). Bawitdaba (talk) 22:44, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * After giving it some thought I decided to open a Phabricator task requesting reopening of the wikis as fully reintegrating them had not been decided by the community Bawitdaba (talk) 01:37, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi
Is my companyball wiki pages and my old userpage on companyball wiki gonna restore after companyball wiki got fixed and back to normal? ★ Commander Xiaochan ⚡ (Talk to me for fun) 06:47, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes.Data was taken from db141 discs.Your wiki will be restored by using it if you make a request. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 06:54, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Do not restore "scratches.miraheze.org"
I don't want "scratches.miraheze.org" restored. Is there any solution? Funa-enpitu（talk/Posting Record） 06:20, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't undersatnd why you wouldn't like to restore it and what you'd like to do.Moving data to another wiki?Please use Special:Requestwiki if so. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 08:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Exactly the same as the description in the section below. Funa-enpitu（talk/Posting Record） 10:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

db141 restore
We have taken a new path. A merge would be an unwanted mess. Ora &#38; D (talk) 08:48, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

How long will the wikis be down?
My wiki, which is about the 1996 video game Super Mario 64, was down today due to the restoration. What I wanted to know is, how long can I expect it to be down, or other wikis for that matter? Revolution64 (talk) 12:30, 21 December 2022 (UTC)


 * about 4-6 weeks? ★ Commander Xiaochan ⚡ (Talk to me for fun) 16:24, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Where did you get that info? I don't think it will be that long, since they on the Tech:RSE noticeboard they say they already have the servers back. Freighttrain (talk) 03:34, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe a week or two. Tali64³ (talk) 16:26, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the SRE will see SetsunaKnowsTheMatrix (talk) 19:14, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I think maybe too many weeks PrincessTricktyy197 (talk) 20:07, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Why does Miraheze have constant technical problems?
Some of those problems are minor (like 50x errors which only last a short time) and others are major (like the db141 thing), but why do they happen that commonly? In other platforms like FANDOM that doesn't happen. FtosorciM (talk) 21:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Money. That's all. A free platform that pays no one and makes no profit cannot compare to the money hungry behemoth that is Fandom with their millions of dollars and hundreds of shareholders all seeking ways to cash out even more. The db141 issue though was a very unfortunate incident that was caused by a faulty drive but performance is due to the above. Agent Isai  Talk to me! 21:12, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * If I had to guess, it's because of not enough money and volunteers at SRE. Backups weren't being done at the time db141 happened because doing them put a lot of strain on the servers (I don't have a source for this, look for the initial post at the CN or one of the old revisions at the SRE Noticeboard), and they probably couldn't afford to bring down any one of them in fear of slowing the entire farm down. Miraheze is a CentralAuth wikifarm, which already isn't exactly trivial to even setup, keeping everything running smoothly, securely, and being up-to-date, while keeping backups of everything to prevent stuff like what happened requires both a lot of technical expertise and a lot of money. FANDOM can afford those things by virtue of being a for-profit with paid employees (which is undeniable an incentive for people to work as sysadmins there) financed via ads, but here in Miraheze we don't believe in ads, so it was decided back when this farm was setup to not have ads. OrangeStar (talk) 21:17, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Money wouldn’t help PrincessTricktyy197 (talk) 22:33, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * That's just your opinion, I have but a limited understanding of how Miraheze's backend is setup, but I can definitely see how they would appreciate some extra money at the bank. More money means more everything: servers, database servers, everything. This means less 50x errors and better performance. More money also opens the door to proper regular database backups instead of XML dumps at archive.org. OrangeStar (talk) 11:23, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Platforms like fandom are sponsored by hyper-aggressive advertising and being a commercial enterprise. Other wiki hosts substantially lack management options, flexibility, overall performance outside of issues, extensions/skins/features and upkeep (being relatively up to date) and support (a technical team that will actually address said problems). Or, they simply cost money. So to mirror what has already been stated and add a little more; you have a very idealist platform that makes very limited money, has a very limited technical volunteering force which is mainly able to just keep lights on as is and take out fires with little time to actually make the system more robust, and you have a platform that you cannot find with equivalent offerings for its scale (miraheze is ever growing but its resources tend not to grow in proportion). Recent issues have been a stacking of cataclysmic incidents that on their own are supposed to be quite rare, happening at a time which is bad for everyone involved between holidays and life in general. This year has been unusually subject to the recent issues, plus the growing pains of upgrades and concurrent changes intended to keep Miraheze alive in light of its growing audience. --Raidarr (talk) 02:40, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Concerns about DOL Wiki?
Hi, After contacting stewards, they suggested I post here. Anyone else concerned about the content of the Degrees of Lewdity Wiki? The disclaimer seems extremely flimsy to me and the characters seem to be minors in basically every way. Not to mention the bestiality and the trauma meters that get filled by molesting these characters. The steward said that if there was enough concern expressed here, they could take action, but as DOL people have argued that their characters are over 18, it isn't against the Content Policy.

Thoughts? If I'm missing anything, feel free to chime in. Corvidae (talk) 05:49, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I believe some discussion about this was held on the Miraheze Discord server in August 2022. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but I'd recommend giving it a read. --Blad  (talk • contribs • global) 11:05, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

If db141 is now fully restored, can you please add interwiki entries for companyball wiki
(1) https://companyballwiki.miraheze.org

★ Commander Xiaochan ⚡ (Talk to me for fun) 11:56, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Wikis on db141 will not be available for a few more days. SRE is still working on restoring them. Tali64³ (talk) 15:42, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * db141 is fixed, can anyone or you add interwiki entries for companyball wiki ★ Commander Xiaochan ⚡ (Talk to me for fun) 00:51, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow nice! PrincessTricktyy197 (talk) 01:16, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This is now ✅ --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   09:03, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

My infobox templates say "Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'strict' not found."
Some infobox templates on my newly-created wiki have the following error message: "Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'strict' not found." Does anybody know how to fix this? GenO (talk) 14:23, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * You'll need to change references in those Module pages (probably Module:Infobox) or one of the helper modules from require('module:strict') to require('module:No globals') and then copy over the no globals module from wherever you found the original templates. example link for 'no globals' module on wikipedia:
 * Root cause here is that a lot of wikipedia templates are using the Strict keyword from the bleeding-edge newest version of lua parser, we haven't upgraded to that version just yet. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 16:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't see any references that say require('module:strict') in the Module:Infobox page, but I did find one in Module:Infobox military conflict (which is one of the infoboxes I'm trying to use), and it seems to have fixed the problem (though the message about 'module strict not found' still persists). The problem I'm having now is that the borders of the infobox don't show up, and I can't get rid of some attached text that says "  " --GenO (talk) 17:54, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Templates based on the infobox module often call other modules that will have similar dependencies baked-in, which is why this error is likely still appearing. You can also use the "Purge" function to force the server to render a new version of the page, which might remove the error too.
 * The borders-not-appearing issue is related to missing CSS. This is either stored in a /styles.css subpage off of Module:Infobox on wherever you borrowed this template from, or might be in the wiki's MediaWiki:Common.css page.
 * --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 18:23, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I managed to import the Common.css page from Wikipedia and it fixed the border issue. However, I used the Purge function and haven't noticed any change: there's still transcluded(?) text in the template that reads "  ". The page Module:Infobox military conflict/styles.css exists on my wiki, having been exported from Wikipedia, but I'm not sure if there's something else I need to do. I'll keep looking. --GenO (talk) 03:44, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This text indicates that the TemplateStyles extension needs to be enabled on your wiki. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 03:52, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

How to import pages from zh.Wikipedia?
The import page of my wiki seems to be imported from en.Wikipedia by default, how to import from zh.Wikipedia? -- SailRain  Talk 09:02, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Importing by using interwiki?If so,please enter . by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 10:31, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * By using .-- SailRain  Talk 10:51, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

a private wiki] I own, there's been a problem with special pages since November 2022, probably due to an accidental configuration. Pages in the "Special" namespace simply appear as "There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or create this page." (for some reason, even you can click "create this page" and add random stuff in special pages, like "test" in Recent Changes), and obviously this makes the wiki broken. Axolotel Ukraine (talk) 13:42, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Request – adding interwiki entries


Ora &#38; D (talk) 16:00, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * +  is back. Ugochimobi Can you copy the whole table from   to  ? Or should I list it here? Ora &#38; D (talk) 20:59, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ora & D hi, please list whatever you want here. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   21:19, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ↑ first thing first. Ora &#38; D (talk) 21:33, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ora & D I've added the above table for the three wikis, kindly list what else you want for smallvillewiki here, thanks. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   09:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ugochimobi Please add to :

Thank you! Ora &#38; D (talk) 09:18, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ora & D It's ✅ now. --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   09:29, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Where I re-request creating wiki
The wiki I have is lost.Should I request on Special:RequestWiki or discord? by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 03:15, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * If your wiki is affected by the db141 issue, then all you have to do is wait for that issue to be fixed, hopefully before the new year. Tali64³ (talk) 03:49, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Update: All wikis on db141 are now back up. Tali64³ (talk) 23:38, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * THAT WAS A GOOD JOB PrincessTricktyy197 (talk) 01:16, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not a fully accurate statement, not all wikis are back.
 * All wikis that existed prior to the November crash are back online to their pre-crash state, with some exceptions -- those that were recreated have mostly been re-attached to the resurrected entries, but there are a few which are still displaying the unavailable error. Going beyond that, there's also a handful of wikis that have internal complications that are delaying their restoration.  See this list for the 20ish wikis impacted by this secondary problem: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/P475
 * For wikis initially created created AFTER the november crash that were also impacted by the december DB141 outage, reactivation is still pending. For ALL impacted wikis that had activity between November and December, if a backup was created on Dec 18, restoration of that edit history is ALSO pending.
 * More details here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:SRE_noticeboard
 * --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 05:50, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Your wiki falls into the latter camp (created after the initial november crash but also impacted by the december crash) that wasn't restored by today's activities.
 * We are working to get those wikis back online soon, this doesn't require you to take action, and you should hear more in the next few days, --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 05:51, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It has been done.Thank you,everyone. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 12:09, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Your wiki falls into the latter camp (created after the initial november crash but also impacted by the december crash) that wasn't restored by today's activities.
 * We are working to get those wikis back online soon, this doesn't require you to take action, and you should hear more in the next few days, --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 05:51, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It has been done.Thank you,everyone. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 12:09, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

How do I add a boilerplates dropdown like the one All The Tropes has?
I have a wiki I have created called Short Stories & Prompts (shortstories.miraheze.org), and I want to be able to make it so that users can load a boilerplate. One thing I need this functionality for is the fact that I am doing a contest involving answering 1 prompt every week for the year, and I want users to use a template for that. How do I enable the loading of boilerplates in the editor? Bauerbach (talk) 22:27, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Bauerbach Extension:Preloader or Extension:InputBox can load boilerplate text into the editor of a new page. If you mean adding boilerplate to an existing page, I'm not sure if Miraheze has an extension that can do that. Miraheze does have Extension:MultiBoilerPlate, but the documentation seems to say it replaces all text in the editor when you select a boilerplate. Extension:BoilerRoom can insert text within an existing page, but Miraheze doesn't have it. You may want to request on Phabricator that it be installed, as per https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions#Disclaimers. Dimpizzy (talk) 15:39, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bauerbach I should have looked at All The Tropes before answering. I'm not sure exactly which, but I think it uses one of the first three extensions I mentioned in the other reply. Dimpizzy (talk) 15:56, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Most likely Extension:MultiBoilerPlate because I see they have a Special:Boilerplates page, which is associated with that extension. Dimpizzy (talk) 15:59, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Realtime Preview Extension
The wikimedia wikis have a realtime preview feature. Is there a way to add this to my wiki? Aaron Liu (talk) 03:17, 28 December 2022 (UTC)


 * From special:managewiki. by Buel ·Talk·e-mail 10:14, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

What if I don't want the edits of my old wiki restored?
I feel like I've made more progress on the new version of my wiki created after the db141 error in November than I did on the old version prior so I don't feel like managing what was on the old wiki once it comes back online (ie dealing with pages with same purpose but with differing names and levels of completeness). Will there be an opportunity to decline having my old edits merged in favor of keeping my new wiki? Or is there nothing I can do about this and I'll have to deal with the old content? Marxo Grouch (talk) 16:21, 28 December 2022 (UTC)


 * You will be able to opt out if you don't want the old content merged into the wiki. Check Tech:SRE noticeboard periodically for any updates. Tali64³ (talk) 17:24, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Marxo Grouch (talk) 19:11, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Never mind. My wiki is now back online, and I guess managing stuff shouldn't be too hard. Marxo Grouch (talk) 16:06, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Can we bring back the November 30-December 19 version of Fohs archive?
We need it back! PrincessTricktyy197 (talk) 19:19, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for all the hard work after the recent "restoration"
Medieval monks used to keep copies of important documents (mostly about which land they owned) to give them some insurance against fires and mice. Nowadays we can have "Name of the Rose" type catastrophes of a different nature, but which would still be familiar to a hypothetical "Walter of Stephenage". I do not see it elsewhere, so may I offer my thanks to the people who evidently worked so hard to restore things after the recent issues. 2A00:23C5:CE07:1701:3152:D6D2:648C:41BC 04:33, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

I've been waiting weeks for my wiki to be restored.
My wiki was private, created in December, and started with a B.

I was getting sick of waiting, and wanted my friends to migrate to another wiki I created until our old wiki's restored, but one of my friends is really stubborn, and refuses to use the spare wiki.

I even asked for a new wiki, and apparently the wiki creation's on hold until everything's finished.

I could not find another suitable wiki alternative, and I'm overall starting to lose hope if our wiki will ever be restored.

I hate to sound rude, but if all your work's been wiped, and you've been waiting weeks for a chance to recreate your work, and one of your friends refuses to cooperate, all my patience has run out. ThatOneTanko (talk) 13:55, 29 December 2022 (UTC)ThatOneTanko


 * Was it on the new db141 that was corrupted by hosting provider error? If so, that may explain it. Check Tech:SRE noticeboard periodically for any updates. Tali64³ (talk) 16:52, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The reopening of post-november wikis is now underway, and I can confirm that yours has been reactivated. It's been a long stressful trip for us all and we thank you for your patience. --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 03:00, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

General Updates on DB141 Outage
Per updates added to Tech:SRE_noticeboard, we have now successfully reopened all wikis and are in the process of importing 18 December backups to wikis initially created after the first outage.

For those wikis that were recreated after the first outage, we have now opened requests for importing 18 December backups as well.

Please see the FAQ section of the SRE noticeboard linked above for details on how to request integration of Dec 18 XML backups. NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 06:11, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

request interlanguage for companyball wiki


★ Commander Xiaochan ⚡ (Talk to me for fun) 12:55, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Hyebun ✅; Happy New Year! :) --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   00:41, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Interwiki entries
Please add to : Ora &#38; D (talk) 14:38, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ora & D ✅; Happy New Year! :) --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   00:43, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've waited a year!
 * Happy new year. Ora &#38; D (talk) 09:51, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ora & D Hehe, that can be true as you requested in 2022 and got attended to in 2023 :-) --  Joseph  TB  CT  CA   09:53, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

ReplaceText extension error
ReplaceText configuration error: Your wiki will not work with ReplaceText: Text replacements cannot be run if $wgCompressRevisions is set to true.

What should I do? Ora &#38; D (talk) 14:51, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ora & D: ReplaceText might not be working anymore, but you might be able to use MassEditRegex as an alternative. Dimpizzy (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Fontpedia
I would like to request an import of Fontpedia backup as of 18 Dec to Fontpedia.

Wiki URL: http://fonts.miraheze.org

Silicona (talk) 15:55, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Validated and added to task list, thanks! --NotAracham (talk • contribs • global) 20:45, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Can we be sure that our wikis are safe here?
Just a general question. I know db141 has caused anxiety for several, and I'm glad the name has been retired. Thank you to everyone here for all your hard work over the past month and a half. I'm just asking because I still feel some of the weighted anxiety of losing months of work of possible subsequent database crashes. If it's a few days, that possibly count as unforeseen, sure, but I don't want to lose months of the hard work I've added into, let's say, Sega Wiki for example. Bawitdaba (talk) 17:13, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


 * SRE has been working in backups, see T8350 and the updated Backups page here in Meta. OrangeStar (talk) 18:05, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You can download your own backups as well at Manage:DataDump, so you could be sure your data survives a Miraheze issue. I don't think it backs up images, though. (Although Sega Wiki may be too big to use DataDump, you might need to request it on Phabricator.) Dimpizzy (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah I got a lot of wikis to keep track of, so that's why I had hoped for automated backups. Looks like there's a proper plan in place, so that's good to see Bawitdaba (talk) 00:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Import Dump maximum size
Is there any explicit upper threshold for the database size when importing an existing wiki? Sorry if this has already been discussed. Jack The Ripper (talk) 06:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC)